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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the P1 Podcast with Matt and Tommy Sprint Edition.

We were like, oh, we're out in Austin.

Don't know if we'll do a Sprint podcast.

Depends if something interesting happens.

Oh, my God, they've crashed, Tommy.

I can't. I actually can't believe it.

Basically, one of the only scenarios we'd have basically made sure

there's no way we're missing doing a Sprint pod,

and we're not just kind of putting it into the qualifying one.

Was pretty much really max winning in the McLaren to crushing and well.

Well, they did turn one.

We just got to talk about it.

We're not going to mess around.

We're not going to be allowed to be fair.

It's great to be in Austin.

I will say that first and foremost.

We weren't at the track today because we're doing some really cool things with AT&T.

You'll see an additional podcast episode about that, so look forward to that.

But as for turn one, lap one, my goodness gracious me,

it is Austin Cota turn one down to a T.

What happened because it's such a unique turn one.

I actually really love it as a corner.

You know, the elevation change is difficult on the brakes.

And there's so many different lines you can take into that corner,

especially on the first lap.

So we had, of course, Hülkenberg up in fourth place.

We're wondering, can he score some awesome points?

Can he even maybe sneak a Sprint podium if he gets into a good position?

No.

What he can do is hit Oscar Piastri into Lando Norris with Alonso,

of course, on his inside as well.

And just absolute carnage unfolded.

And I firstly want to say, I don't think anyone did deserve a penalty.

I think it was very much a racing incident,

although you can apportion percentages of blame, I think.

Yeah, I think Hülkenberg deserves the most blame,

but I still would put it as a racing incident.

It is the nature of turn one at Cota because it's such a bottleneck.

You know, it's such a wide entry to the corner

and then just completely bottlenecks.

Even when there's not a crash at turn one,

you always see people bailing onto the runoff.

It's so rare.

I could probably argue that it's never even happened

where everyone's escaped turn one without it going wide

because it's just like they all funnel in, basically.

And yeah, Hülkenberg is the most to blame,

but I also think that you had Alonso on the inside.

Piazri is taking, I wouldn't say like an enormous risk,

but it is certainly a risk to...

He wasn't thinking about anyone behind him.

He had his eyes on Lando, didn't he, and just went for that move.

He did. I think that...

I'm not blaming Oscar in the slightest for what happened,

but I will say that I think he took a little bit of a risk

for well-knowing that we've seen that kind of incident happen so many times.

And I feel like Oscar just very much focused on Lando

who had gone a little bit deep and the up and under was on,

but perhaps went a little bit tunnel vision into just making sure

he would get through on Lando

and not thinking about what was potentially going on behind.

A wider line, of course, with hindsight,

would have kept him in the race.

And my goodness gracious me, for his championship,

he is so fortunate to have actually taken Lando with him,

as much as it's obviously a sad thing to think about

that Lando got tagged and was taken out as well.

For Oscar's championship, it's huge

because if Lando had stayed in that race,

finished second, maybe even beat Max in the race,

that's a seven, eight-point swing from a 22-point deficit.

So that didn't happen, of course, both McLarens out.

I genuinely thought I was just living a dream of yours.

I thought I was just in your head.

This wasn't real and that we would end up seeing the actual lap one-term one

that we were all expecting, which was not that.

I was all ready to have a rant that the sprint is kind of pointless

and Max would have gained two points and it's not enough.

And he's won the race, but does it really matter

because it's not a big-point swing.

But for it to be eight and zero to both McLarens,

does swing it, it's a big-points gap.

It's not enormous, but it's still a lot,

and obviously more than if he won the race in a McLarens.

You mean a big-points game?

Yeah, a big-points game.

It's still a big-points gap, but it's less than it was.

But it's the fine margins of this championship

and those little moments.

Because I think had Oscar been taken out,

Lando takes a huge chunk out of Oscar's leads,

almost a third of it going and just evaporated like that.

But instead, and this is a wild theory

that I had that I was thinking during the race,

is that Piastri actually colliding with Lando

is weirdly not the worst thing for him.

Because I think now the pressure has ramped so much

on McLaren that Max is joining this fight

and they are going to get so nervous.

And I know there's talk of McLaren

will always let them race and stuff,

but they have said themselves,

if Max gains too much, we will back someone.

So for Oscar, it could almost not,

it's a weird thing to say,

but it could almost be not a bad thing

because if Max is going to start to attack

and get closer and closer,

McLaren might have to back a driver

and he's the one that's ahead.

It's an interesting theory.

I think a lot of people who are on the side

of McLaren are favouring Lando

and want Lando to win the championship

will say no chance.

They will just take their risk and go for it.

And I think I'm on that side of the argument

where 22 points is not a big enough gap to go,

Lando, sorry mate,

you can't win your first world championship.

We have to back Oscar here for the drivers championship.

No chance.

I cannot see that happening in the slightest.

However, if we come out of Austin

and Oscar finishes first, Lando finishes third,

or there's a big point swing

between the two McLaren drivers in Oscar's favour,

then perhaps that conversation has to happen.

But 22 points is not a big enough margin.

I think it needs to be near on 40

to then have to then back Oscar.

It's just, it is such a tough decision, of course,

because McLaren are always about,

it's fair the drivers can race as long as it's...

But it's also really tough because you don't know

how it's going to go.

Like one thing that I'm thinking about now

is that at the end of 2010,

Mark Webber had quite a sizeable championship lead

and the team could have easily,

Red Bull could have easily said,

right, Sebastian Vettel,

you need to let Mark get all the points

that there was talk of they should completely favour him.

And imagine if they hadn't done,

because of course Mark Webber and Alonzo missed out on points

and Sebastian Vettel ended up taking the world championship.

So it's not just a case of completely back Oscar,

because, yeah, Max is coming.

He certainly is.

Question from people on Patreon member Charlotte90.

Playing devil's advocate,

Lando was aggressive in Singapore,

but hit his teammate.

Oscar attempted an aggressive cutback at turn one,

hit Hulk, which caused him to take out his teammate.

Will he now face repercussions from the team?

I think the way that's phrased is that Oscar hit Hulk,

whereas I think it's the other way around

where Hulk absolutely hit Piastri,

which then caused the crash into Lando.

I know that we're joking about this repercussion stuff,

but at the same time,

I think it's wise to be fair about who was at fault here.

Oscar was an absolute passenger because of the contact.

And I know I've already said that,

I think Oscar could have maybe played it slightly differently,

just to be a bit safer as the championship leader,

but it's by no way his fault or anything like that.

You can't say it's the same thing

because Lando was on his own in that situation.

It was a situation where, yeah, Singapore,

Lando made the contact with Oscar after hitting Max.

But here, it was like the nature of turn one,

so it's not like it's a clear cut.

Oscar's wiped out Lando and it's his fault,

and he's took this enormous risk.

He has taken risks, he's not completely blameless,

but it's not like it's this, oh my word,

it's his fault now that this has happened.

Yeah, the only thing I'm saying there

is that Oscar took the risk of being hit,

and he was.

The fact that the whole equation ended in him hitting Lando,

that part is just complete luck.

It's just coincidence, obviously.

Yeah, it's just coincidence.

No, I don't think so.

Or it's said that Max Verstappen's

going to win the World Championship.

Don't you start.

I believe in Max Verstappen from the get-go.

You, oh, 4%, 5%, what percent are you now?

Seven.

Seven, all right.

You were five on the streams.

You've already changed to seven.

You are literally changing like the weather does.

But yeah, the whole repercussions thing.

If McLaren want to throw the drivers' championship,

they'll give Oscar repercussions.

I think that's the way,

like they need to just throw that in the bin

and just think, right, actually,

Max is genuinely in with a shot of the title now.

Can we lock in and stop talking

about silly things like repercussions?

Because it is boring, I think.

Well, for me, it's absolutely, it's so dull,

and they need to focus on the big things.

Next one, P1P, remember Matthew Cole 04.

How big is that going to be

for Max Verstappen's championship push?

Yeah, I mean, it's massive right now

because he's got that eight-point swing.

I was all here ready to talk about

how the championship and how the sprint race

doesn't really mean a lot

because you can't gain a lot on your rivals

because I thought, you know, had it been a normal race,

we'd have seen the McLaren's second and third, maybe,

and it'd only been a couple of points

and you kind of think, well, that's not really made

a huge amount of difference.

The main thing here is we're going

into another qualifying session in a few hours,

which is insane and I've said many times,

I don't like that that's the case.

And now it's almost going to be more important

to see if Max can deliver another pole position

and then because the race is where

the big points are handed out.

So it is huge, but also we're going

to go into a qualifying session

and we almost need to know if he's going to

put himself in a great position for the race

to do it again and take more points off McLaren.

So it's massive for Max's championship push,

in my opinion, just purely because it's a free eight-point.

This is how I see it.

It's free because these sprints in my head

are like additional tiny little bonuses

that can have a one or two-point swing,

as you said, Tommy.

You said yesterday, you actually,

it's in the social clip we posted that where you said,

like, because I was talking about,

oh, he needs more races and you said,

there's three sprints, that's 24 points.

That's eight of them.

Yeah, exactly.

And you would expect maybe three or four or something

like that Max is obviously very good at sprints.

So it's big, but we also have to remember

that every single competitive session

is massive for Max from now to the end of the season.

Like, yes, he is 55 points behind,

which feels like closest.

He's been for a very long time,

but also one swing, as you say,

like if he finishes fourth, he finishes fifth,

then we're all over somewhere saying championship off again.

Like he has to eat into them every single session,

which puts so much pressure on him,

but Max doesn't feel it.

Like he genuinely doesn't feel the pressure.

He's been in this position so many times.

So it's massive in this particular moment.

It's the best he could have hoped for,

but we have to say...

It's making me so nervous.

Honestly, I was a wreck during that race.

Because I said in Bahrain,

and this feels like eight forever ago now,

when Oscar was out the race

and Lando wasn't scoring many points.

And I was nervous because I was kind of thinking,

oh, Max, he is really, really, really far behind,

but there was obviously that tiny percent of me

that believed that maybe he could

do it.

And I think this was another moment

where it just felt like another kind of...

He may still not do it,

but it just felt like one of those things of like,

wow, this has really bought the pressure on.

And the pressure on McLaren now

is going to be huge because

they were getting questions about,

do you think Max is in the title?

And they were saying yes,

when he was like 94 points behind.

He's now 55 points behind.

And 33 behind Lando, which is much closer.

Much closer, yeah.

And Lando feels like the driver

that maybe has a slight edge at the moment

over Oscar in terms of pure pace,

as we saw this weekend,

it's fascinating.

And thank you to Hülkenberg

for kind of being like,

let's throw a little bit more spice

into the championship

and make it a little bit closer.

Question from people on Patreon.

Remember, TVR driver,

has Tommy chosen where his tattoo will be?

Well, we've walked past a few tattoo parlours.

Haven't we here in Austin?

You joked, you were like,

oh, maybe I should have,

you know, have a little booking of it.

And now he's even closer.

I still think it's very unlikely

you're going to get a tattoo, mate.

And that's coming from me,

but I'm a lot more of an optimist

as to Max's chances than you are.

It's just going to be so crucial

out of this weekend.

I feel like Mexico,

Max will win that one.

I genuinely have so much confidence

that he will win.

If there's a track,

you're going to back Max round.

It's Mexico with how Red Bull

have always been very good round there.

If he comes out of Austin

with a huge point swing,

we don't know what's going to happen

lap one, turn one tomorrow either.

Exactly.

Could be chaos again.

You're talking about seven point swings.

We can have 25 point swings.

We had an eight point swing today.

This championship is just throwing

so many curveballs.

It is crazy how that championship

has thrown so many curveballs.

And even if Max doesn't do this,

this is exactly what this world

championship needs.

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Now it wasn't plain sailing

though was it Tommy

because you were nauseous

throughout the entirety

of the watch along

but most so

more so

when Russell was within one second

and George

he was about six

maybe six and a half

tenths behind Max

in the DRS

and decided I am going to do

the largest dive bomb

we've seen since

maybe a max move

that we've seen

it's quite funny isn't it

as well to see the team

ready for it

what was he doing

like Max saying that's like

yeah Max I would never do

such a thing

we got a little preview

didn't we

of what a George Russell

Max was to happen

title fight would look like

and it would just be

absolutely sensational

thankfully for Max's

maybe title championship hopes

they didn't come together

Max showed some good awareness

to just run off the track

and

because George would have

plowed into the side of him

because he locked up

and went wide

Max did have to bail on the run off

otherwise it would have been

a collision

and it was really interesting

because during the watch long

we said this didn't we

that realistically

Max is gaining

and the sprint

the biggest argument is always

oh it's only a

it's only a point here and there

what's the point

but Max would never

give up one

one point

you were begging

for Max to be like

I'll just let him go

just let him go

seven points

it's seven points

just take the seven

rather than the eight

or potentially zero

yeah and it's

it's a tough one

and you just never know

how this championships

gonna

gonna go that

that could be crucial

it might not be

who knows but

yeah it was

it was

so nerve-wracking

of all the drivers

that could have been behind Max

to think that

right this is going to be

an easy Max win

and then to have Russell

gaining and gaining

on DRS

you know his

his nemesis

and it was

yeah it made

it made it even more

nerve-wracking

and an enjoyable sprint

has to be said

enjoyable

don't be silly

anyone that watched you

you were literally

hating every second of it

even when he had a

two and a half second lead

you're like I just can't

I'm just so

I can't do it

right moving on to

third place in the sprint

was Carlos Sainz

unbelievable

the man has another

kind of podium

although not a real one

like a sprint podium

which is kind of like

a made-up one

if we're being honest

but still

six points for Carlos

his season

is finally coming together

he's had a podium

already in Baku

he then has followed

this up now

with a great result here

in Austin already

you have to say that

it's all

it's like a Williams W

before we've even

got to the main race

with a six-pointer

and Albon as well

scoring some points

in the sprint

I'm genuinely

this is the Carlos Sainz

that we expected

out the blocks

at Williams

and yes there was

some unlucky moments

wasn't there

for Carlos

but also it didn't feel

like he was at one

with the car

like he is now

and finally

you know

I'm surprised

you haven't put in

the podcast

did Ferrari fire

the wrong driver

because he beat

both the Ferraris

again

he sure did

yeah we said

yesterday

it feels like

he's finding

his groove again

but I did not expect

that would

turn into a P3

of course he got

some good fortune

for the turn one

incident

but then

stayed there

he had a great

qualifying as well

it wasn't like

it was one of those situations

where

everyone went off at turn one

and he

he said three

he had a great

qualifying anyway

which put him in that position

to gain some good points

anyway

then obviously got the

chaos at turn one

got up into P3

and stayed there

and my word

this really is

the Carlos

that we thought

you know

he's gonna go into Williams

after being

unfairly

where you know

it's not to say that Hamilton

didn't

shouldn't have gone to Ferrari

we've had this conversation

many times of like

but it

at the end of the day Carlos

wouldn't have been fired

for any other reason would he

or

or been dropped by Ferrari

and thinking

he's gonna go into Williams

he's gonna show exactly why

what a great driver he is

and that didn't really

happen

for quite a few races

a lot more than I expected

actually

but my word

like ever since

the

the podium in Baku

he's really just

found something

and it's that confidence boost

and

yeah

he was

he was absolutely brilliant

absolutely locked in

someone who wasn't

absolutely locked in

was Lance Troll

question from people on page

you remember

Shuka 88

I am once again asking

why Lance is allowed to race

yes

I think you summed it up on the

watch along saying

I'm so bored of this

just

why

this

this question just happens

far too often

in someone's career

and it's

the same odd narrative of

well he can never be fired

you know

he's had a career

and yeah

he's had some

some good moments

but

there's been so many

bad moments

and any other driver

would have been fired

years and years ago

for not being good enough

but

that's not the situation

he's in

because his dad

owns the team

and

we've said so many times that

you know you don't

they're not gonna

pack up and

leave now

where soon as you know

they're getting the

Adrian Newey

card

going into

to 2026

so

that

he's

it's painful to watch

because it was now

absolutely ridiculous

move as well

he sent that move

all the way from Dallas

if I'm being completely honest

with you

it was such a late

just

it wasn't even optimistic

it was delusional

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and

yeah

Charlie in the background

is literally shaking his head

saying how dare you

that is the worst segue

he's ever heard

but

it was just

ridiculous

I remember seeing it

and you

and immediately

you're watching them

go down the strait

and you're like

Lance's mark

he's like

seven car lengths back

how has there even been

a move attempted

and then he just threw one

to the inside

say it was

say he was ninth

and it's like

well it's a point

dive bomb

why not

that was pointless

like it was no where near

what was he fighting for

like 16th, 17th

something

something no where

he was no where

so yeah

it just

it was completely pointless

it was a move you do

on the F1 game

where you just send it

lock up your break

and then just

smash into someone

and then have to apologise

afterwards

that's all it was

and then of course

worth mentioning

Oliver Bearman

fighting Kimmy Antonelli

that was for

a point

exactly as you kind of

mentioned there Tommy

and he gets a 10 second penalty

now as of right now

I don't know

if you've got any penalty points

I assume not

but of course he is very much

on the limit of being banned

10 second penalty feels

unbelievably harsh

for what was

quite fun to watch

wheel to wheel racing

and you think like

how can he be penalised

so heavily

for something that was

yeah should he have given

the place back

is that what they kind of

arguing saying

well just

just give it back and

they're saying now that

you know drivers should

have it in their control

to

to basically make those

decisions

maybe that's

the kind of

thinking they're going there

and maybe Oli

should have got over the

phone and been like

clearly because it was

you've gone off the track

it was so obvious

that he was going to

have to give that

that place back

10 seconds is obviously

harsh we'll find out

whether he gets penalty points

which would be

really bad for him

and could even result in a

in a ban I think it'd be

incredibly harsh if

if he does for

for a track limit

warning

but 10 seconds

I guess at the end of the day

it's no points or no points

so 10 seconds didn't really

matter anyway

because if you'd have let him

through and finished

ninth it's still no points

I suppose so

but then I guess

if that was

Hass's

viewpoint on it

are they risking

penalty points

going that way

necessarily

you know like that

you know it's very true

it's a question for sure

right that is it

we are done and dusted

this very much

just random sprint podcast

that we weren't planning on doing

we had to do one

is is now

yeah is now here

let us know your thoughts

massive potentially

for Max's championship challenge

still six races to go

two sprints

and 55 points

between Max Verstappen

and the top of the standings

Tommy try not to shake too much

but there we go

thank you everybody

Tommy what are your final thoughts

final thoughts are

Max's winning it all

I'm living

I'm living in

dream that surely didn't just happen

let's see how qualifying goes later

goodbye

bye

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