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Speaker 2: Heavy Saturday America.

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I'm your host, Big Davpa, Hangout, Camera, Chaos and AVB. Hey, guys,

it is a great day for you guys to hopefully be at the car show. That's right, Pontiac is having

their big huge festival, you guys know Pontiac of Virginia, the big huge celebration they have and it's out in Elizabeth, North Carolina. So hopefully you guys are out there and

you guys are hanging out and you guys come hang out with us. So it should be a good time

for you guys to get out there. It's running from

I think ten to two I think is the schedule out there. You know, everybody kind of hangs out a

bit longer, but man, they bounce houses today and the food and vendors and seventy five to seven auto events can be out there DJing. You guys know Mark, he's

gonna be out there. But last year was a great show.

We were out there, We hung out and had a really good time.

Speaker 2: So you guys are gonna want to get out there.

Speaker 3: If you guys are hearing this, he's still got some time for to get out there hang out with us.

Speaker 2: So make sure you guys come out.

Speaker 3: Like I said, so the address out there is eleven ninety seven US seventeen North. So yeah, that's the Saturday,

the twenty first, that's Saturday today, So make sure that you guys definitely come and hang out. You guys are

gonna want to hang out and have a good time.

But hey, so I want to jump into some things.

Did you guys see I don't even know. The one

person said he was ten I treated from people sent it to me, so it was ten years old, and the other one the other news report somebody sent to me some an eight year old about the kid that took his parents car like on a ride to Target.

Speaker 4: I didn't know when that was like thirteen miles away.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's like thirteen miles away to Target.

And the one thing he hit was like a mailbox or whatever.

Speaker 4: But yeah, one mailbox, which is pretty good for an eight year old. I mean for an eight year old

that that's actually pretty good. I mean eight or nine

year old.

Speaker 2: Now, I've always said that what did they want from Target?

That's what always? What are you like after?

Speaker 3: Like the last kid I think that we talked about like he was after snacks or something. He wanted to

go get some snacks or something along that line or whatever it may be. But like everybody's like, how does it?

I'm like, have you not played some of the racing games nowadays? Like have you play some of the racing

games and driving games and stuff like that? Like you

can learn everything you need to know.

Speaker 5: Especially if you're doing like simulators where you can actually see like the real world.

Speaker 3: Right, So I Nathaniel as an Itch and I think Cameron has a little bit of one two and they want to buy one of the sit down seat simulators with all the stuff I think would be really cool.

Speaker 4: So I look, I want to buy one, but it's like, if I buy one, I want one that like if I'm gonna if I crashed the car, it feels like I'm I crossed the car. You know, I don't want

to mean that's just like attaches to a table. I

want one with like the shocks and everything.

Speaker 2: I'm going to everything forward.

Speaker 3: That, right, So I did a little research because I know that I wouldn't mind having one myself. So I'm

like really looking into it to get something nice. It's

about six grand to get something nice. Now, the one

that I looked at, and I don't know how nice it is because I just kind of start at my research, right, but they got the one that the one that I see that was like six grand has the shocks connected to the seat, and then when of course, when you slam the brakes, the seat dips forward like on a car.

And then when he hit when he shipped, stuff that coul lead you know, like like almost like the torchs in there.

Speaker 6: But that's an add on, so you don't need that, like right off the jump.

Speaker 5: That's why I like explain the camera like you can do it in sectors like get to see you know, upgrade the monsters, the brackets, whatever, and if you want the suspension style then you can.

Speaker 4: Yeah. But it's like but but there's why upgrade, Why upgrade?

Just get it all good? It's one percent of investment.

You don't know if you're gonna enjoy it. And if

I am, if I'm spending the money, then I might as well spend a little bit of extra money just to get what I want.

Speaker 3: So that's probably the reason why I don't so six grand is a is a little bit of a it's a little bit of even for me and I like toys, guys going wrong. But when I look at I'm like

six grand car, I really want to make sure that I'm I'm gonna use Yeah, it's it's six thousand dollars.

I can buy another project car at six grand, you know, I mean that that runs in.

Speaker 2: Fake car, but a real car. The one I looked

at is.

Speaker 3: The three screen like so like you have like it sits so you can kind of like turn and look like you're gonna look out your side windows on both sides.

I'm eighty Yeah, like it's that set up, and like I said, it had the shocks and it has the air shifter to it, so like when you actually shift, it feels like you're actually shift because like there's an airshift or to it that actually gives you that feeling of shifting. So it's not just a slap around like

I think of Activision. I think it was the one

who used to make the other one.

Speaker 4: That is another reason why I probably haven't bought it yet. Like, yeah,

you're right, I want it, but there's only truly one game that really does allow you to drift around. Of course,

you know, I'm going to buy.

Speaker 2: A bunch of games.

Speaker 6: One game that, I true just depends only what you're like looking for.

Speaker 5: Either it's gonna be rally drifting, if it's gonna be you know, circuit racing.

Speaker 2: It all just depends. I mean, as the new new

games come out, I still.

Speaker 3: Wish that they would have finished developing the game that was full country. They were doing you know, cross country,

and I had all the roads programmed, all the town's program to me, that's that's what I want to play.

I want to I wanted to take twenty four hours to drive from one place to another place. I don't

want any skip options where you can skip.

Speaker 6: And go to like the Crew that the United States.

When Crew did major cities.

Speaker 2: They did.

Speaker 3: But when Crew first advertised, right, it was good. That's

what they were gonna do. They were gonna do like

the roads. There's gonna be stuff that you like, the

side side attractions on the SOD like it was. That

was how they kind of talked about it, and then ndition never expanded. That's the reason why we finished. If

I don't know if you guys are gamers or not, but I know there's a lot of guys that are my car car guys that play a lot of car games like.

Speaker 2: Here, okay, so let me go backwards. Well when you

talk over you know, and they over sold it.

Speaker 3: So here's the thing. When I when I was a kid,

we didn't have like what kids have now. Like my

learn to drive was sitting on someone's lap holding the steering wheel while they worked the pedals, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2: Like that was it. Now.

Speaker 3: I just saw the other day like like a five year old or something like that broke a or like a speed record or something like that.

Speaker 2: For a certain class.

Speaker 3: I saw that like one hundred and ninety three miles an hour or something like that. Yeah, like if I like, I'm.

Speaker 4: Like, so, what is a five year old going one hundred and ninety three miles an hour for?

Speaker 2: I don't know, but I started thinking about it.

Speaker 3: I was like, and I thought I was cool sitting on the lane. We used to drive out at the

airport and we used to drive up and down the runway and drive. And that's how that's what was my

first really driving experience was at the airport. It was

a Boulder City, just outside Vegas, a Boulder City's airport, and we used to go up and down because all the planes landed there. So you used to go up

and down the runway and I'd begin to sit and steer it, you know, hoped well, no, I mean no, I mean like we obviously we were going up down the runway if there was gonna be planes land lit.

But but it was just you know, it's still I think airport is still out there, but it was a small airport then. I don't know if it's any bigger.

But that's where I first got like my first like really sitting in drive drive, because I mean I do lap after I told you guys, I've been a car guy forever. I just I could not wait to start driving.

So now these kids have this advantage with he's driving simulators they're into I mean, I watch I started, like I said, I started doing the deep dive but not too deep. And I'm watching these guys like play. It's

like sitting in a car. I saw one guy's got.

Speaker 7: Like a part of a like a ninety six RX seven cut and he's got he's got in his living room and he just has everything installed, like where the wind shows that and something.

Speaker 2: He just sit.

Speaker 3: He opens the door and gets in cause he's got like it wedges in the corner. So he opens the

door and then sits down in the seat. He's got

a full driving seat and everything's that. I was like,

y'all laugh, But I could see myself doing that because I'm just that much of a weird card not but I think I want to do it, like out in the in the Mega garage if I was going to do it, But then I start thinking about what I really want to walk the megarage every time I wanted to pull.

Speaker 4: It right, he got to convert the side bedroom. Yea right, right,

I'm like, well, no, you know, I actually thought about it.

I got all this room over here that I'm not using up in the walking attic.

Speaker 3: I was like, I just put another room in and put it right there, and there's you know, literally right behind you.

Speaker 2: I could put a door and got another closet.

Speaker 3: And I thought about this a little bit, just just a tab that I thought about this, But no, I mean, it just tells you. The advance is like when I

see these kids, and like I hear about these kids like hopping in their parents' car and driving to the store and stuff, and I'm like, how do they get the I'm like, no, well, I guess take a look at some of the games. It teaches you everything you

need to know. The only thing I can't figure out

is how they get there, like the foot down to the pedal. But then I started thinking about it. I

had a big wheel that I couldn't reach the pedals on when I was a kid, and then they put wood blocks and just strapped wood blocks to the pedal, which then gave me the high thing.

Speaker 6: Nowadays, the seat movesfferent degrees.

Speaker 3: It does, but I don't think enough to get to get an eight an eight year old up to the pedals.

But they figured it out. Like I saw one video

somebody sent me that's probably a lot of year ago, and the kid took his grandma's cane and he was pushing the pedals with the cane and then he was steering.

Speaker 2: That's how he was how he's like doing it. It worked,

and yeah, smart ingenuity. That look that kid's going somewhere,

I mean literally going somewhere.

Speaker 3: Like but no, I mean, I don't know, like I think I got a little bit of an itch. Maybe

I kind of maybe want one. I just I have

a hard time spending money on something. If I I'm like,

God for six grand I better play.

Speaker 2: It, you know what I mean? Right, And that's kind

of like the ultimate right, and it's like I really enjoy it. Like that's the only reason why.

Speaker 4: I haven't bought one, because I'm just like I don't know.

Speaker 6: I was saying, we all want and then we like.

Speaker 2: It and someone's house like exactly once we did.

Speaker 6: We we get shared.

Speaker 5: You know, we can we can each all have it from like from like this time this time, you guys, so we're gonna have it.

Speaker 2: We got to schedule hanging on a wall like, so, well, you.

Speaker 5: See what's uh I don't really watch uh F one, but you see there's a F one driver Lewis or something like that.

Speaker 2: I think where.

Speaker 4: He he's Hamilton or something.

Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not really sure.

Speaker 5: I don't really watch you know, F one like that, but he does, you know, similating UH driving all the time, you know that.

Speaker 3: Like I've told like, I got this conversation this week about it. I was talking about it and I was like, you,

I said, told everybody, I said, you realize there's a whole sport for NASCAR, Like that's all online, like it is what that is that eats there's like a whole like preople actually going race, Like oh yeah, there's a whole thing for it. And I was like and then

you know, if you guys you haven't seen the movie Grand Trismo, I suggest you go see.

Speaker 2: It's pretty good, pretty good watch.

Speaker 3: That's where they go and take the kid from playing Grand Trismo video game and they take these kids and put them in real cars and teach them how to drive real cars, and then one of the kids actually end up being what end up being like a champion or something like that. After he I think I.

Speaker 2: Dozed off somewhere in the movie and lost some of the part. But I did watch. It was a good movie.

But I don't I don't.

Speaker 3: I think I dozed off A missed a couple of parts.

What movie Grand Trisma, you know where there were there?

Speaker 2: Uh?

Speaker 6: I thought it was pretty good movie.

Speaker 2: No, I think it's good.

Speaker 6: I don't sleep during it.

Speaker 2: I think I fell asleep. I think I do. I

think I think I started watching like late at night, and I did.

Speaker 5: That was very cool, but just because you know, most people thought that it couldn't happen, and I did.

Speaker 3: And who think you could take a kid off a video game, put him in a real car and him be successful.

Speaker 2: I mean, like the kids did. You're right, and they

are right. I'm not down in it by.

Speaker 5: Remember like us growing up, and you know, people not really thinking that the online scenery was going.

Speaker 6: To be just as big as it is.

Speaker 3: So it's funny you say that. When I was doing

my dive looking into all that kind of stuff, did you know. I'm sure a lot of you guys know,

but I didn't. There is real like trucker games, like

you sit down, you drive a tractor trail and you've got to drive cross country and go pick up the load and like and these.

Speaker 6: Guys all indulged. Yeah what we what were we just doing?

Like two days a camera camera was trying on.

Speaker 4: A plane a truck simulator game where we go pick up the load. Really fun by the way, you don't

want to play, But it was nothing like when I was last night. I was a train conductor.

Speaker 2: How is.

Speaker 7: Everyone?

Speaker 5: I'll play a Microsoft simulator Microsoft, so like fund the airplane and you a lot because it's all the buttons are very you know.

Speaker 3: I didn't really I get it, but I didn't realize, like you're in this tractor trailer like I was watching.

Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, oh, well this looks.

Speaker 6: Interesting a farm simulator.

Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie guys.

Speaker 3: For I didn't realize twenty minutes went by and I was watching this, I'm watching a guy drive a truck in a similar for I lost twenty minutes of my life because I was like twenty minutes but you were in all that's I just found it fascinating that these and they're like they talk to each other on CBS and stuff. Like I was just like, I'm a car guy.

Speaker 4: And watching the video you got you wanted? Why did

I watch that for twenty minutes? Why what kept me interested?

It wasn't the game, It was just the.

Speaker 3: Car, you know what?

Speaker 2: You know what kept me?

Speaker 3: As I was watching this guy he I don't know how he has them, but how that works and gl I haven't forgot, but he had a full like stick and he was hitting like and and it was blowing off making noises.

Speaker 2: It's like.

Speaker 3: And I'm like and and then I was literally as I'm like, well that's kind of cool. And then I

see him like he's got a CB hanging. He grabbed

a CB and he's like talking other problems.

Speaker 2: About to grow over it and they grab a CB from talking. He's like, I got to watch it.

Speaker 3: That's exactly what it was, like I said before I knew it. Twenty minutes went by, and I'm like, Dave,

you you got a problem. You you were so ate

up with car stuff. You just watched a twenty minute

video of a guy driving a fake Summi and you're not even driving it. You're watching a guy drive it.

You get one other video, I'm like, you, I.

Speaker 2: Got a problem.

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lines up with my problem. I told you, guys, were

I deep died. Like I find a car, I do it,

Nathaniel all the time. I find a car online, it's

for sale. I'm like Marketplace, and then I snap a

picture of the car and I start looking for wheels for it, what body kits are available. I don't even

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I'm like, oh, I can buy this part. I'll buy

that part in the car will look like this, and then let me enhance the picture to see what it looked with these mods on it. I mean I didn't

even committed to buy in the car. Guys, I got

a problem I need. I may need some car rehab,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Let's Talk Cars Radio, your automotive specialist.

Now back to your host, Dave Polatch.

Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back. Hey.

Speaker 3: So here's here's something we always talk about it like this.

This is probably gonna be a flashback flash I think, so technology, Right, we always talk about like the technology and the advancement of technology and then this next new thing.

Speaker 2: So this this.

Speaker 3: Goes back probably five years worth of talking on this show about it, and I was like, what is the next thing that we can event uh that would keep kids from being left in cars?

Speaker 1: Right?

Speaker 4: Well, people would steal all those ideas from us every single time, you know.

Speaker 2: But well, you know, the pointed out He's like, hey, what happened to the advancement tires?

Speaker 3: Remember, like for like two years was like the advancement in tires and then we haven't really.

Speaker 2: Heard anything about it.

Speaker 4: The good good Year tire that they were trying to create, Yep, the spark it called the spear actually, yep, the one.

And then they also wanted that airless tire too, where it didn't happen.

Speaker 3: The magnet level tire was one I was interested in because I just not that I thought that.

Speaker 2: It would ever fix anything. But it basically stays in

the hole, so it was coming.

Speaker 3: That's how and that's how it worked, and I I thought that was kind of neat, like if there's nothing really holding it in there, just.

Speaker 2: No, it's definitely unique.

Speaker 5: I think I think the heaviness of it because it's a magnet, would probably but it was.

Speaker 2: A cool design.

Speaker 3: I got to kill Are the video of that, and I thought it was a pretty cool design. So this

is something different. So you know, there's been this I'm

not gonna call it pandemic. I don't even know what

to call it. But you know people leave kids in

cars all the time. It's just you keep on hearing

the stories the right problem, right, and you keep on hearing about it. You're like, man, and I I'm not

to be insensitive to it. I can't wrap my head

around how that happens. I just I just I've had

people try to explain to me and I still end the conversation go I'm sorry, I still can't understand how that happens.

Speaker 2: That's how I ended every time.

Speaker 3: I'm like and they're like, yeah, but have you ever gone and you get busy and you get sidetracked? I'm like, yip,

gotten sidetracked. Never left my kids in the car?

Speaker 5: Right the sidetracked part, like you know, like like a minute and like and around, you know, you go bag and stuff, but never for like hours extend this toy forget.

Speaker 4: My thing is is like you gotta get you gotta turn the ignition off, You got to get out of the car. You gotta look.

Speaker 2: You usually look back. You usually look.

Speaker 4: Back in the car because you're usually looking to make sure that hey, did I forget my phone? Did I

forget something else? You know, you usually look back in

the car before you just walk out and close the door.

Speaker 2: So I agree with you.

Speaker 6: I don't know even that it takes tuning now to a whole other level.

Speaker 2: For me.

Speaker 3: I constantly check my door, which makes me stare back on the car because I'm like, I lock that door.

Speaker 4: Well yeah, when you don't hear the chime, You're like, you did it?

Speaker 2: Yeah?

Speaker 4: Yeah, did it did it lock?

Speaker 2: No?

Speaker 3: Well, Toyota is advanced things again, which I actually it's pretty neat. So Toyota now is going to do, like

infrared sensors and stuff. So every time that there's a

movement in the car, alert So if you lock your car, you get out of your car, you hit lock and you lock it and you walk away from the car.

If there's any movement in the car after you've initiated the lock procedure on it, then it will.

Speaker 2: Turn the hazard lights on.

Speaker 3: I think first within like thirty seconds, turns it has lights.

Then another thirty seconds it starts honking the horn, and then after that it pages a telephone number that's registered to you that it will send a text. Interesting, if

you still don't fix the problem, it starts calling your phone.

Speaker 2: The car will call your phone.

Speaker 6: That's and how is it does he do about?

Speaker 2: It's like done by infrared movement?

Speaker 4: You probably have to put it on kids movie.

Speaker 3: I didn't I think about that, but I'm sure there's gotta be something thought breathing.

Speaker 2: Probably just look at just your chest going up and down or heat signature. Right. I thought it's pretty cool.

Speaker 4: We advanced just a little bit of the security measures as well. Like you think they're just going to use

it for kids or do you think they're gonna I think.

Speaker 3: One of those people is I'm not a conspiracy theorists, but I always believe there's secondary uses for everything that's ever invented, Like there's always that like hidden agenda for secondary uses on things.

Speaker 2: I just believe that.

Speaker 3: I mean, we were just talking about it, you know, the whole you know, we need to be tapped into your car for better traffic and stuff. And then all

of a sudden, I was like, they're going to use that to their advantage on something else. And sure enough,

and we find out that it's going to be the police or have access to it, and they know if you're speeding, And now you've got forward patenting things that you know they're going to tell the car is going to tell on you if you speed.

Speaker 2: And I mean, like but just murmurs.

Speaker 6: Just because they patent things doesn't mean that it actually comes out.

Speaker 2: But they have they.

Speaker 3: Have dates for they have release dates for a bunch of these, Like if you go back and look at some of this stuff they did patent and then there's the by twenty thirty.

Speaker 5: But it doesn't always mean it's going to come to fruition or that. I don't think it's passed laws. I

completely don't do this.

Speaker 2: I don't. I don't disagree with you on that one bit.

Speaker 3: But we have seen a lot of the technology that we have talked about on this show for over ten years has come to yeah, full circle come around. And

so it's like it's you are going to have connectivity.

Like connectivity is like nothing you guys have ever seen.

I keep telling you guys about it.

Speaker 2: I could.

Speaker 3: I could talk about connectivity for days and days and days, because like almost every day there's new information out on connectivity.

If you don't know what it is, go look it up.

And that's just where all the cars talk to each other.

There's just a huge push for that. And I get

why there's a push for it, like truly, I get it.

This right here, this is connectivity. I'm for something like this.

I just you know, you keep on hearing all these stories kids being lefting cars, and people are like, is there that many? I'm like, go look it up. There's

the ones that you probably don't hear about in your area that happen. And there's a lot of stuff happens

outside your area that never even makes the news. You

never even hear about it, you know, I mean, just st you don't hear in the local news or whatever.

Speaker 5: Small businesses you know, parting up with big minises they get you know, overshadowed.

Speaker 3: Yeah, there is, Like it is the connectivity on cars, I believe is a good idea up to the point where then I have to go I just don't want a big brother in my back pocket.

Speaker 2: And and there's a big push for that. So the

connectivity is.

Speaker 5: Before it before the biggest lead it has to enter, you know, kind of like the retail market before it goes public, right, because like we have to have like you know, the engineering behind it, you know, work out it's small.

Speaker 2: I think that as you start to see, Okay.

Speaker 5: So because the big agenda is you know, uber Taxi here, so we're not Uber you guys, can you guys keep on hearing about active driving?

Speaker 2: Right?

Speaker 3: So active driving is a really big thing. That's where

the car kind of is more involved in the driving procedures and keeps you safer.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker 3: I am a huge advocate for that, I really am.

My problem with that is is on the other side that the laws don't recognize that yet, so I don't That's where my rub is, Like I'm all for you putting out active driving and where the cars more involved in driving some But I think there has to be laws that follow. Like you guys know that my rub

for my ticket and I can get back into it.

I'm just telling you, Uh, the law needs to recognize a lot of that, a lot of that stuff. So

as you continue to build things like this and make cool things. I just think there needs to be some

type of governance And I don't really think we really have one yet for any of that story.

Speaker 5: But it's probably more because you know, people don't use you know, like electric you know, the use case scenarios of you know, gasoline cars to electric cars. You know,

to change the rule of it. You know, am I

apply to one or the other? If they change, they

change it, am I? You know her maybe an other side.

Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys, did you guys see this week the used car report that came out, Like so, you know, used cars are selling for less money right the second than they were before. The price is starting to come

down things, but they need to come down. But it's

also hurt in the EV car market because ev car market is coming down along with it because it kind of tends.

Speaker 5: To well that was the alternative, right, nobody could get a you know, a secondhand car, so they just got you know, a brand new car. They're pushing incentives for

the electric cars, and centives are kind of going away.

Speaker 2: It is.

Speaker 4: I don't know how how good these numbers are. Actually,

did do statistics on the kids left in vehicles in depths per state from nineteen ninety to twenty and twenty three. Okay,

what do you think is the lowest state that has had.

Speaker 2: The lowest amount of.

Speaker 3: It's gonna be like a state of south in middle nowhere, right Like it's gonna be like a Montana or something like that.

Speaker 2: Georgia.

Speaker 3: No, Georgia is It's not like I'm thinking like Montana, Idaho, something like that, South Dakota, North Dakota.

Speaker 4: No, it doesn't actually say Okay, what do you think the highest one is the highest one?

Speaker 3: Yep, the highest one that leads to most kids. I'm

gonna see it's like Arizona, Texas. I knew it's gonna

be one of the Texas.

Speaker 4: And then Florida comes in second. Here in Virginia we've

had thirty eight.

Speaker 2: Sadly, wow, that's that. That's what you said? From what

what year to what year?

Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety to two. That's twenty twenty three. So I'm like,

I don't know where you're pulling the information from.

Speaker 3: Thirty four years, and thirty four years almost had one death of year right over one death of year thirty eight, right, Yeah, that's a lot. That's too many as far as I'm concerned.

So yeah, I mean, if this works, I think it's great.

Like I thought it was cool when they had this, they were I seemed like just two years ago we were talking about the censors in the seats they were putting.

Speaker 6: They see occupation, and then like, now this is something else.

Speaker 3: So, like I said, I'm all for technology when it's used correctly. I've seen I saw somebody sent me a

video and I appreciate.

Speaker 2: I don't know who it was.

Speaker 3: I can't thank you, but I do appreciate it. You

sent me the video on we were talking about like the robots on cars, right, and somebody sent me a video on the new Uh. It's it's not completely robatized,

but it might as well be. I don't think robotized

is a word, but it's not robotic. Maybe completely robotic

maybe that's the right words still need still, but it's tied like taking tires on off cars and stuff like that.

Somebody sent me a machine because we were talking about it a while back, Like, Hey, saw this machine, thought it was kind of cool. It's not exactly what you

guys are talking about, but uh, take a look at it, and I don't I think it's I couldn't see, guys who the name of the maker was on it. I'm

kind of thinking that we're probably gonna see some more of that stuff. If you guys didn't know, we are

going to be at SEMA and we're going to broadcast and we're gonna have a good time. We'll be out

in Vegas in November. We're excited about going the return

to ve Guess you guys know we last time we went and broadcast from there, we had a great time.

Met a lot of people, saw some friends, saw a lot of listeners that you know, reminded me that they listened.

Speaker 2: To the show, which was really cool.

Speaker 7: Uh.

Speaker 2: The weirdest encounter I had it was the bathroom one.

Speaker 4: Still starting still accepting interviews from people.

Speaker 3: A yeah, yeah, we're some interviews and stuff is coming up for a while we're there, so marky guys calendar for that. Like I said, we will be in Vegas

and Sema November fourth through the ninth.

Speaker 4: I remember fourth through this ape but we will be there still covering some media after.

Speaker 3: So yeah, it should be a good time. So we're

really excited about that. But I want to announce I

let you guys know that we're gonna be doing that.

But I'm excited to see some of the stuff because that's where we saw the robotic uh tire changer last time.

It was completely robotic, was cool, and now.

Speaker 4: Stopping over into APEX so Apex has a lot of kind of stuff.

Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm really really really excited to see all that stuff and now have more technology stuff that we're going to see that anscement of where it went from last time, because like I said, we skipped a year, so uh, we didn't. We were just too busy last

year to do anything, so we didn't go. But this year,

we're gonna just skip two years.

Speaker 2: Two years that quickly. Okay, so we skipped two years. No,

I actually woudn't know what I was. You guys did.

I went and one of the that's what it was.

Speaker 3: So I was I got to go for two different shows and you guys you guys missed too, I missed you.

Speaker 2: That's not what it was. I know, guys. Let me

take another quick comercial break. When come back.

Speaker 3: I got some more for you, guys, I want to jump into I got in a conversation about the the g T D and I know we talked about a little bit on the show before, but uh, we're gonna talk a little bit more.

Speaker 2: Be right back.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, welcome back. So this is gonna make some

people mad. I'm sure it's already ruffled. Nathaniels Feathers prices.

We were talking about earlier this week the GTD okay, because somebody asked me my opinion, it's not okay. So

let me start off by saying, guys, yeah, you're right.

I'm a Chevy guy through and through. When it comes

to trucks. I've said it a thousand times. I really

don't care what it is. When it's a muscle car.

I think all muscle cars are cool. With that being said,

it has nothing to do with the fact that that's a Ford, okay. It has more to do with the

fact that I just believe it's a glorified Mustang. It's

just what looks like to me. In three hundred thousand

dollars for a car seems to be a lot of money for a Musting. That's all I said. You'd have

thought that. I called people's mother's names when I said that,

because it just started like a wildfire of comments like oh, you know, you don't know what you're getting and dah dah, da da dah. And I'm like, no, no, I believe

I know what I'm getting. I've read the article, I

know what the car is. I get it. I understand now.

Hear my side. If you guys have never followed, I

told you guys about it a lot of times.

Speaker 2: Go check it out.

Speaker 3: Lebanon, Ohio is dealership that sells the thousand horsepower Mustang that they build the cool muscle cars. They like to

sell them for ridiculously low prices for what you're getting, okay, And I think it's worth buying one if you're in the if you're into having a Mustang and you want to wait and have it built and all that kind of stuff, I just think it's well worth it. That's

a thousand horsepower The GTD is what eight oh seven thing is what it is? I think eight hundred seven

everybody goes.

Speaker 2: Okay, but they're they're they're not comparable. I understand, right.

Speaker 3: The g GTD is a race car essentially, but okay, let me can I can we do it this way?

Let me split it apart and say, okay, what if you bought a GTR, what is the going price on a GTR? The second little over one hundred thousand dollars

for GTR, which is essentially kind of like a race car.

I mean, let's let's it's I mean it is. You

watch people race them in there, and they're stupid, quick and crazy, and I think they're like one hundred grand.

This is three hundred thousand dollars for a sense I know, and everybody keeps correct me. It's not a musting, but

it is to a certain degree it is a musting. Now.

Speaker 2: I understand.

Speaker 4: It's got a lot of racing and development and all that kind of stuff so that it has the Mustang badge on it. But it's more of a track car. Okay,

it's built for the track. It's not you know, some

of you are going to take.

Speaker 3: On public, truly believe, and I could be wrong that and I use this as an example. I could take

a twenty twenty five, twenty twenty four, whatever, it's going to be musting. Right, let's just say we I go

to Lebanon and I have Ohio and I haven't built me a thousand one of their thousand horsepower Mustings, and I'm into it for about seventy thousand dollars.

Speaker 2: And then I.

Speaker 3: Decide I take that car and I send it to somebody like Dave kindig Kinndey garage. You guys know you've

seen the show on I'm sure great guys by the way, very humble man. If you guys never got a chance

to meet him. But let's just say I send it

to his garage, right, And I say, take my thousand horsepower busting and build it into a track car for me.

Speaker 2: I think I'm probably gonna only be into that car.

I'm thinking one hundred and twenty five hundred and thirty thousand dollars. Maybe probably have to purchase the car. It

depends what you're doing too, right.

Speaker 3: But I mean, you go and you can look and you can already start, and then there's not a lot of stuff readily available for twenty twenty four yet, but this stuff is starting to come out. So if I

want to put a full race suspension on it, and I'm like, hey, why you're at it? Why don't you

build me a complete flat under you know, under suspension.

Maybe you build a different chassis.

Speaker 2: Still not at three hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 5: I just know you're not what you're paying for the art to a certain degree and know and knowing that you know, I'm this is.

Speaker 2: The ex gave me. I get it, go ahead.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker 5: I was just kind of like, you know, any like I will, I will agree that it is, you know, quite expensive for what you're getting.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's.

Speaker 3: Pretty's just let's just let's agree to say this is a.

Speaker 2: Lot of money.

Speaker 6: Knowing what you're paying, you know, paying that's my problem.

Speaker 5: I don't pay, Yeah, pay you know what you're paying for is the you know, the art aspect of it, as well as knowing that you know when you go on the track that it's not gonna break.

Speaker 2: But I'm not.

Speaker 4: I was trying to my thing is right, I think about it is right? So you got three hundred thousand

dollars for fordy I didn't do that. That was not

one hundred thousand for a Ford, right, and just three months two months ago. I still compare Corvette to a

Ford still sometimes the R one came out for one hundred and eighty thousand and then making what two hundred more horse Corvette is a supercara.

Speaker 2: Nowadays, Corvette is not considered a supercar.

Speaker 4: They are Hypercards is a supercar now, but it used to us.

Speaker 2: The new Corvette is considered to be a hypercar.

Speaker 4: They used to compare one another and now it's HyperCard.

Speaker 2: Look it up. I think they're calling it right now.

Speaker 5: I mean they've they've definitely you know, divided on what they're going for.

Speaker 2: I mean, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 5: And so about you know, Corvette, what in the early days and stuff were more you know, they're a sports car, but they were still like what and I.

Speaker 2: Think that, you know, so Corvette.

Speaker 3: My understanding is that the Corvette guys are going to correct me on this, but that's fine.

Speaker 2: I understanding.

Speaker 3: Corvette was a sports car and then when they made the Z model, that's what put it into supercar territory because it was faster, faster and Laborgaine or something like that or you know, so that kind of made a supercar.

But now I think the new one they're considering the new big horsepower one is actually is jumping.

Speaker 6: Everything is a supercar nowadays in their.

Speaker 4: Own field, people are saying it goes to a hyper car only because of how much force power it matters, but how because it has twin turbos on it, Like, yeah, I just.

Speaker 2: So do the car.

Speaker 4: I know where do I get only one hundred and eighty thousand here's hours. I mean, I'm not paying guys

for the next forty years.

Speaker 3: I like cars, I do, but to a certain degree, I go there is a cutoff on every car.

Speaker 2: For me.

Speaker 3: It doesn't even matter if it's a used car. It

could be eleven thousand dollars car. We were just talking about.

Nathaniel and I were looking on a car that he's always liked. They want eleven grand for it, and I

I cut off and I went, I think eleven grands too much.

Speaker 2: I just think it's a nice car. I think eleven

thousand large much. It's only eleven thousand dollars. Yeah, but

I do you agree, I've got graduate jests. I think

nine grand.

Speaker 5: I was like, he's about two three over and stuff.

But it was a good bill and he did, you know, have it all documented? And it laid out, which is

very nice. You know, some people don't love they don't

do that. But at the same time, you know, for

what it really was, it still was about two three.

Speaker 3: I have said, okay, so I tell you guys all the time, so I it is part of my I would say almost daily procedure, but weekly a couple of times a week where I get a marketplace. I just

want to see what who's selling what, and what's out there.

And then once I said once I look at it, I started looking at things to changes I want to make to it. I'm like, okay, so if I bought it,

I paid twelve grand for it, I can buy four thousand dollars worth of wheels for it. Oh look at this.

This exhaust is availed for it. That's seventeen hundred dollars.

And before I know it, I have built the car.

And I don't know why I do it. I just

do it, probably because I just like cars.

Speaker 2: I don't know.

Speaker 3: It's almost like it's like building like like a little like it's almost like building a Lego car.

Speaker 2: It is you have like little dream clouds.

Speaker 4: It's just you're like, now you could do that.

Speaker 3: I thought I was alone in this I'm not alone.

There is other people I've talked to a car guys.

They do the same thing. They're like, well, if I

bought it, I don't like the wheels on, I could change that, and things like before I know it, I have like you know, in their imaginary like you know, shopping cart.

Speaker 2: They have like twenty thousand dollars worth of parts.

Speaker 3: So they're like, well, I buy and I put twenty grand into make it my own, and I'm probably into it is probably worth sixty I'll have thirty five into it.

And you start doing the math, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4: And that's just what you usually stopt looking from buying it though, is it trans laying in the bed next seal?

Speaker 3: No, I don't think Dawn would stop me. My wife

wouldn't stop me from buying another one. She has asked

for us to finish what we have before we buy something else.

Speaker 2: That's trying.

Speaker 3: Look, I'm I don't even want I'm I had a conversation about the bad am this weekend, uh, this last past weekend, and the conversation went complete sideways. Because it's

not from a lack of wanting to finish that car, guys, it is from the lack of just getting the right parts here.

Speaker 2: If it's not stop breaking right.

Speaker 3: It's so annoying when you spend good money on stuff and it's just not right or or installation, something fails on installation.

Speaker 2: It is the most aggravating thing.

Speaker 3: I think we've gone forward and back where it's probably thirty times on this car, and I just feel like anybody's like, just turn it over and let somebody, you know, let somebody figure it out. I don't really, I just

really kind of want to build a bunch of this stuff on my own, you know what I mean. Like

that's I have a nice garage and we build cars for a reason. I've done it before. I just this

one has been just such a pain in the butt to get the right parts for It's insane.

Speaker 4: The thing is, if you did let somebody else do it, we probably would have never figured out, Well, you're the real issue that was going.

Speaker 2: If I would have just bought stock parts, this car would have been back together.

Speaker 3: Like if I was just throwing everything back on the way it came off, this car would be done. But

it's just not what I wanted to do to it.

I wanted to do something special to it, make it cool, make it mine, put my own personal touch on it.

We are getting there, but it has been just the rockiest road. I am so close to dropping the motor

in the car and really starting to put a done stamp on things. But we just can't seem to get

over that humph. It drives me nuts. Wh i'mut in

the garage and I'm staring. I had to go out

to the garage the other day. I was out there

for a couple hours working on a project, and the car's just sitting there, and I know I don't have I mean, I could spend an hour and probably put it down on its wheels if I had the right parts, and it'd be back on its wheels again, rolling again in a roller form.

Speaker 2: And I just can't seem to get over that hump.

Speaker 3: And I'm almost to the point now where it's do I just rip everything off that I put on, throw it in a box and send it back to the manufacturer, and just buy something else so I.

Speaker 2: Can get it.

Speaker 3: I really don't want to do that, but I'm almost at that point, like there seems to be no path forward that gives me resolution not to get off on the tangent of the bad Am, but it we were you know, you're in the realm of I've spent you know, we're talking about the g t D. I'm in the

realm with We spent a lot of money on this car.

The bad am has a lot of new technology put into a new motor, new everything, and I have big dollars investing in this car that I'm not I've not got a chance to enjoy. And it seems like this

I'm so far from the from getting into enjoy it.

That is, it's annoying when I look at the car because I just see dollar signs when I look at the car and know what I've spent.

Speaker 2: And I'm still not enjoying it yet.

Speaker 4: So it's really let me asking, then, would you rather pay the GTR price to build it up with all the GTD or the GTR the gt R and pay all that money to build it to the GTT specs.

I think I'm doing that right. I think doing that wrong.

Or would you rather pay the three hundred thousand and just get a done car that you know is well?

Speaker 2: And that's kind of like what you're run into right out of the box. But here's the thing.

Speaker 3: I see the T shirt in the back of my head all the time, built not bought. I see that,

you know, I see that shirt all the time every time I think about it. Now, I will end it

real quick because I got to take quits commercial break.

I've told you guys that I have an itch to buy something new and something modern to go into my collection other than they're just having a classic car. But

I and I think I really kind of want to do that. I just haven't found exactly what it is

I want yet. I haven't been able to settle down.

But that's exactly what I want. If that comes, that

may happen. It doesn't change the fact that bad I

am needs to get done, and I need parts suppliers to be better at giving you the parts that I know they're going to work without it being a problem.

Speaker 2: I'm not in the parts.

Speaker 3: I'm just right. I'm just not. I'm not gonna go

any deeper because it annoys me. I gotta take quick

commercial break. When I come back, guys, I got a

little bit more for you, guys. I got some Hey days.

I want to answer a couple of hay Days, so I'll be right back.

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Now back to your host, Dave Poalach.

Speaker 2: Hey, guys, So I'm gonna ahead and jump right into this next one. I got some Hey days. We haven't

had Hey days in a while, so Eve, hey, Dave.

If you guys don't know what hey daves.

Speaker 3: Are, it's when people write letters and I go ahead and I review some of them, and if I think to something interesting to get into, we talk about it.

We had done a little bit, so I thought I jump into one, so I had a letter written to me.

We were talking. I don't remember what episode it was, uh,

but we were talking about the tickets when going back in time, I can't remember how old I was, but I was young. And I told you that I got

the ticket for no front license plate. And I think

what brought that up was because Natano got the ticket I think for no front license plate too, so I think.

Speaker 2: What brought it around.

Speaker 3: And somebody asked me, They're like, well, how did you You were talking about how you got around it and stuff.

So I'm assuming that you wrote me the letter because you've probably gotten one. Here's the deal. So I'm not

advocating not running a front license plate. I'm just telling

you a most cars don't have a front license plate holder.

Speaker 2: They just they don't have one.

Speaker 3: And I don't know where you guys were at, but the solution here is to hold the license plate up as straight as you can.

Speaker 2: And I mean that.

Speaker 3: Sarcastically because that's what they do. And then they take

self tapping screws and they screwed it into your front bumper.

Speaker 2: I'm not for that.

Speaker 3: I think that that is just ridiculous. And that's how

that came about. So I'll explain for you all to

heard the story. You're going to hear it again for

the person wrote the letter. I explain how its sequence,

how that happened. I bought a car that did not

have a front license plate. It wasn't designed to have one.

It just it did not have a place for one.

It was never designed and have one. Pretty normal, and

it's very normal on a lot of cars, And you know, I had people send me letters back in the past and asked me about some things on that I'm not talking about. It didn't have a front lines plate, it

didn't have one off to the side or anything like that.

It's just a car wasn't designed to have one. And

when they asked me if they wanted me to install my front license plate when I bought it, and I was like sure. And then when we went out there

and I saw what they were gonna do, I was like, I don't want you drilling.

Speaker 2: And we're not talking about it. There was no.

Speaker 3: Science to this, right, like you tape measure right right, there's nothing literally like they were holding the plate up and getting it straight and just throwing some screws into it self, tapping big ol' screws, And I'm like, no, I just bought the you just bought the cars brand new.

It's as bad as a guy that scratched the car when I was selling cars, because he wouldn't take it home to a scratching it. But anyway, so I never

put one on fast forward to where I got the ticket.

I told the story about the officer that kept pulling me over every single day and gave me a ticket, and I accumulated a bunch of tickets for not having a front license plate. Now it made no sense to me,

And I consider I'm not the smartest guy in the world.

Back consider myself to be pretty smart. You are the

same officer. You keep pulling me over, You keep giving

me a ticket for no front license plate, but we haven't got the time to get to the court date.

Speaker 5: I know they kind of issue a ticket or something that you already have a ticket for.

Speaker 2: They gave me a ticket for I well, yeah, sure, absolutely can. That's like I sped this month. You can't

get me till next month.

Speaker 6: Well, I mean we have no no, I mean speeding speed.

Speaker 5: No speeding is different, right, because like speeding is an action, whereas the license plate you're arguing off a basic plan.

Speaker 3: They gave this female officer gave me a ticket every time she saw me.

Speaker 2: Now here was the thing.

Speaker 3: As I explained you guys before, I to a certain degree, knew that I wasn't doing anything wrong. Now she didn't

just give me the front license plate, and I never have told you guys that story. She also got me

for no state inspection sticker. Now, weren't you like living

in a different state. I had general license plates on it,

and I should have had a state inspection sticker. She

was one hundred percent correct. I should have one. Now

with that being said, I couldn't get one. And let

me tell you why. Before in our state and some

maybe some of your guys other states are the same.

You used to have to have a city sticker, okay, and if you didn't have a city sticker, you couldn't get a state inspection sticker or vice for how it was, Oh, those you had two stickers versus one. I was military

at the time when I bought that car. I got

out of the military still had that car. They had

somewhere in their system that I owed them like four years of back taxes on my car, and I was like, I don't. I'm not a resident of here. I don't

live here. I was like, so, I don't pay you

guys my taxes. I pay this my state of origin taxes,

as much as you like me, as much as.

Speaker 2: You love for me to do.

Speaker 3: I'm like, so, I in Sinse and I was trying to get it cleared up, and I had a coordinate already for that to try to get that clear up.

Speaker 2: So and I explained to the.

Speaker 3: Officer, and the officer, look, I don't once again, I'm not talking bad about officers. I'll tell you guys this

every time. I feel like I had to repeat myself

a million times. That's not what this is about for me.

But there is certain officers who I believe get it, and there's certain ones that absolutely just don't get it and maybe shouldn't be officers. This particular one was probably

one of those, because I was explained her and I'm just like, I'm talking to you guys now, I talk with like a an explanation voice all the time.

Speaker 2: That is what I'm told I have that.

Speaker 3: There's tone, right, Yeah, I have that tone to my voice, and I get it, probably because we do radio, so the voices there naturally. But I was just look, here's

the deal. I have a court case. Here's what's going on.

And she's like, yeah, I've heard all the excuses. I

just just like I wasn't even done talking, just dismissed me.

Why In the process, she jumped from the top of me, dismissed when I was talking and I was explaining a legitimate reason why, Hey, I don't have this, here's what's going on. I do have a court date to try

to get I was military blah blah blah. I still

got military stickers on my car, so you can obviously, slee, I'm not lying because there's still military stickers on my view, which shows I'm telling the truth. I was a military member,

so but she didn't want to hear it. I didn't

change my route. I think I told you guys that before.

I took the same way to work every single day, and every day she was sitting tucked back by this bush every day, and I drive by her and she'd get in behind me and pull me over and we start the She's.

Speaker 2: Like, you ain't got that fixed out. I'm like, I haven't.

Speaker 3: You know I'm going to see you in court at some point in time. You've isshed me a ticket if

I want to go predu.

Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

Speaker 3: Like, we're gonna go address this in court. Like I

knew you were on this route, right, I already know.

I like, so I think I went a couple of times she wasn't there, and then like at the end of the week, there she was again, and she pulled me over, and she just kept on giving me a pro I was like, now, if I was doing it, this is my last And everybody asked me, why didn't you just go a different way? And I was like,

why why do I? I thought it was her assment.

I was like, why do I need to go a different way? I know I'm not doing anything wrong as

far as I'm concern, I'm not doing anything wrong.

Speaker 2: And and she don't care to listen, right, she didn't care to listen. So I stack up all these tickets

until I get to my court date.

Speaker 3: And when I go in for my court date, even the judge I think I told you guys this before.

The judge was just like he had the look on his face. I mean, he was doing w TF. I'm

sure he was. And he was like, you know because

I was, And I was like, your honor, I was a military member. Here's the deal, here's what's going on.

I couldn't get the state inspection sticker or the city stick stuff because they think I will back taxes.

Speaker 2: I'm waiting on the state.

Speaker 3: I'm waiting for the way my banking account works, is you know what I mean. It was I feel like

I was having one of those conversations, but he was.

He listened to me, and I was like, he's like, all right, what about this tag? I was like which one?

Speaker 2: Which? Which? I mean, like, I'm here for today, for

this one, but I have all these other ones.

Speaker 3: I'm gonna come see you again about He said, what do you mean? I was like, she just kept going

to give me tickets, and he looked at her like he was puzzled. Like he was he was like it completely.

Speaker 4: She was hoping that she would win that one and it be where it was like, well, he has for these your honors, so you already ruled on this one.

Speaker 2: It was the most ridiculous thing.

Speaker 3: And no, I did not change the direction of where I was driving because I I'm pretty stubborn. Guys, I'll

be the first one I met. But when I know

I'm like right on something, it's hard to get me to come off of it. Like you have to really

convince me that I'm not right on it. If I

legitimately believe I'm not doing anything wrong and I'm right, it is very hard. I like I said, I'm so

certain I could be stubborn.

Speaker 2: I admit it.

Speaker 3: It's one of my faults sometimes on certain things. I

gotten better with age. Obviously when I was a young man,

I was probably really worse. But he was like, and

I said, your honor, and I did my due diligence.

So this one, I'm going to tell the listeners that asked me the question. The way that I end up

getting out of that ticket was out of all of them, and I didn't get out of them. I didn't deserve

to give him the first place I said your honor, here is I took a video. I said, here is

a video of every car on the lot that's just like mine, that's being sold. It has no front license,

plate holder. They're being sold no front license plate holders.

I was like, how can you d me responsible for in a front license plate on my car that doesn't have a front license plate holder. You need to be

deeming them if you want one, You guys need to deem them responsible for selling the car with a front license plate holder.

Speaker 2: And then I went even further.

Speaker 3: I took video of all these cars passing at an intersection I live by, and every model that was like mine or anyone I saw that was set up kind of like mine. I ran video of it as they

passed at the intersection with no front license plate because the cars are sold without a front license plate holder.

Speaker 5: Now, I think that can work, but I think at the end of the day, you probably should just kind of like do the best of your ability to fix the problem, because the only problem with that solution is that then you're opening a you know, I don't argument between or a conversation between you know, well, you know, at the end the day is still not right.

Speaker 2: Here's the thing, So I don't disagree with you, but here was the issue.

Speaker 3: Right, The front bumper of my car was round, it was had around it, so you had to alter the plate and bend it to be able to go on the car. It's the only way would go on the

car right is to bend it. So now you're altering

the license plate to bend it round to try to go on which first thing you can.

Speaker 2: Look up a log you don't have to alter your plate.

So I'm like, so, I don't really think shape has a I was.

Speaker 3: Being you know, I was going to a letter of the law, but I was like, look and he I showed him the video and he listened, and he's like, I said, I can get a front license plate holder for this car. They make an aftermarket goes on it,

but it was like three hundred dollars back then for it.

Speaker 6: I'm like, it should come with a car.

Speaker 8: If.

Speaker 3: I was like, if you hold me responsible for having one, you need to hold the dealerships responsible for providing a place.

Speaker 2: To put it. It's just what's fairs fair. And he

agreed upon it.

Speaker 3: She got chested eyed a little bit for the fact that, like, you just kept on digging this guy, like you know what I mean, Like it just made no sense. That's

why I say, I think certain officers And I was like, I was like, I said, I was never troublesome. When

she pulled me over, I did. I was very I

don't understand is with her, like I just don't understand, like this is common sense, Like I'm not trying to avoid you.

Speaker 2: I know that you're going to be here. You pulled

me over a bunch of times.

Speaker 3: I'm not going to right. I was like, I'm not

gonna by way that I go to work because I know that this isn't right. So that's the way I

got out of it. I just and the boys will

tell you many a times, my burden proof when I go to court is if I'm going to decide to something I've done wrong, I bring a lot of burden and proof. I do my due diligence. But I was

I got some education and that to be able to do that. I don't suggest you do that for yourself.

Go get stuff a lawyer, but I had some education knowledge on how to do that for.

Speaker 4: I've done it all the times. I've gotten a bunch

of cases just.

Speaker 3: Saying yeah, but he's gotten the knowledge from me to tell him what he needs to say and how he needs to handle it.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker 5: I always say, just make sure that you know you're always just trying to, you know, solve the promise that you know, always trying to open up a debate right between.

Speaker 7: That problem was.

Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't trying to create the issue. I

just knew on this exact one. The guys.

Speaker 3: Look, I tell you, guys, I'd have pulled over if I think I'm wrong. I'm like, hey, you got me,

I'm wrong. That has happened. But I don't get pulled

over all the time. So I then, oh, guys, we

gotta go ahead and get out here. Don't forget to

come out and join us. You got a couple hours left.

Come out North Carolina, Elizabeth City out to the GMC dealership right across front for the Pontiac of Virginia show.

So you guys definitely want to check it out. It's

on Saturday.

Speaker 2: That note, we gotta get out of here. Guys, got

anything before we go? Enjoy your real All right, guys,

we're out of here. Talk to you soon.

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