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Revving Up with the LeMons Race and Cars Named After Places

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Right now, let's go down to Angleton Texas and talk to Richard Tomlin.

Richard, good morning.

Good morning guys.

How are you?

Well, very well, thank you.

Richard is the off-road road racing guru, hill climbing, hill climbing.

Executive of SCCA he does everything and he's a BMF.

We like playing with cars, that's all.

Clearly you do, so.

You're playing with lemons this weekend.

Yes, we're playing with lemons.

This weekend We've got 110 cars.

I mean I think we're 14th year.

So 110 cars, 5 drivers, 5 cars Okay, 550 drivers on site.

I love the Gremlin Richard.

The Gremlin's amazing the AMC is even better.

AMC, let's talk about what exactly is the 24 hours of lemons?

So 24 hours of lemons is you and 445,.

Please get together buying a 500-ish dollar car and then you start adding safety equipment that doesn't count towards your $500.

You put some decent tires on it.

You come out on a Saturday, we run a 9-hour race and then we'll turn it around Sunday and we'll run like a 6 or 7-hour race and then we all have a bunch of beer and celebrate and go home and try to make our cars faster for next time.

So the 24 hours no one can change your it's a $7 trophy right.

The 24 hours part of this is just 24 hours of fun and camaraderie on a racetrack with a bunch of crazy people, not the actual race itself.

They still hold one event a year.

That is what we call a true 24.

And that race, of course, is always amazing and booked out with people.

But what we find is 24 hours is really hard for an amateur team to pull off.

A to keep the car running.

B to keep your drivers on track.

So it's a challenge.

Do you have a lot of cars that go off the track there?

You will have some.

You always do.

You have some that show up with BMWs with LS motors shoved in them.

They find themselves off track from time to time.

Yeah, it happens.

Well, right now my mind is set on a 125 horsepower straight six cylinder engine out of a.

Well, the car itself on American motors.

Find piece of work out there.

There's a couple of those Now I will say the AMC's are far from stock.

They're probably making more power than the GM LS right here.

They get a whole lot less shit over it because it is an LS.

All right.

Well, how am I supposed to compete with my $500 car?

Well, so they've got this thing called judging.

That happens.

So once you get your car attacked and I said, okay, you're legal, you're safe, then you go to what they call BS judging.

And then you have to go to class where you present your case on hey, did this guy really spend $500 or did he spend $5,000?

And like I was just over talking to a team a few minutes ago and they were assigned five penalty laps in class A, Another team was assigned a hundred penalty laps.

So there's no way they can win the race, but they still get to go out there and be in the race.

So are the cars on the track at the same time.

Yep 110 cars and.

A rolling start, you should fire up the Corvette and make a trip down.

Hell, no, no, this would be.

This would be like you know, getting on 45 the Gulf freeway, starting at Gulfgate, trying to get into downtown Houston at 7 am.

Not going to have a high street.

So, richard, they don't.

They used to claim those cars and they kind of do stuff to them like crush them.

Yeah, they used to have what was called a people's curse and basically each team got a vote on who they thought was the cheats car and then they would have a large implement out here that would pick the car up and just destroy it.

Pick it up, throw it on the ground and tear it apart and that was amazing and fun.

But a lot of people got the feelings hurt, so that went away and now there's just a promoter's claim rule.

Okay, well now I have to ask you how do you spell the word cheats?

That's all to you, because that's not me.

I wasn't a good school kid.

Okay, cheats.

I'm the mechanic Remember.

Yeah, I got that so is Apex.

Got any cars in the run?

Of the 110 cars we've got about 70, 75 that we've either worked on or put cages in.

Oh, wow.

We're actually working on two.

Last night until about 1030 to get them back in the race.

So we were back down the track this morning at six working on a little Ford Ranger as well.

So a lot of little things out.

You've had some pictures up on Facebook about putting in roll bars and stuff.

Is that some of the cars you were working on?

Yeah, that's the same stuff.

Like rules change every year, so as rules change we have to accommodate those cars and make sure they're based so going to be safe and fit the rules and be able to play.

So what's sticking out of the hood of that orange car there that you're showing us?

That would be an air cleaner, because that's a nice, healthy 350.

That's probably the best sounding car here.

Looks like an old Arca car, but I think it's funny because it's parked right beside a Miata that I know was $500 because I started to work on that.

I need to park next to a Subaru wagon and it's just like the complexity of what we have here is what makes it so much fun.

This is almost like a destruction derby kind of thing that I'm looking at here.

That contact is not encouraged or loud.

Well, not on purpose, but it happens.

Um, it does happen, it does happen.

So you know if it ain't rubbing at eight racing.

Uh yeah you, you.

You'd find yourself in the penalty box here quite a bit.

Oh really, you're a bad guy.

I got you I don't do that, so it's only like five times and they park your car for the day.

Is the penalty box a physical location.

You have to go sit in for time out.

Correct, you go sit and then the judge immediately decides what your punishment will be, which could be you being surround, wrap to the top of your car and driven around saying that you're a crappy driver.

We call that Tuesday.

Yes, yes, yes.

There's a lot of making sure that everyone else around you knows how good or how bad you really are.

Wow, you know so quite eclectic collection of vehicles I can see, oh yeah, it's a.

It's part of what makes this thing so entertaining, and you have to become a master of everything Internal combustion.

You know, it's not just one brand, one mark that you're focusing on, you're trying to become all around skilled.

Now are you?

Are you, are you part of the tech inspection here as well?

I have stayed separate from that because it's in my backyard.

I like to have the ones come in from out of town and have them judge what our work is.

We do so much of the work.

I don't have anything that's right for us to judge it.

Oh, ok, ok, so I don't look like 500 cars, I just want to say, I thought I saw Mercedes Benz there that you just passed, but I guess that's not in the paddock area oh yeah, no, there's a.

Mercedes Benz in here.

Yeah, there's a couple of them.

Mercedes is actually one before old school AMG car, here's a P71.

We actually did a manual swap on recently, next to a Ford Focus.

I mean we have all kinds of diversity.

You're losing my concept of a $500 car here, exactly.

Come on Mercedes Benz.

AMG and 500 shouldn't all be in the same sentence?

Exactly, you call it with a blown motor right and then you put a motor back together with you and your friends over the weekend and that's how that kind of stuff works out.

Well, you'd have $500 just in gaskets, yeah.

Right.

But I mean you found some of those on the floor right?

They were in the shelf.

So there's ways to make things happen.

I see, there's another one of the Miata's.

That gets a really hard time but it's just a really nice paint job on a Miata.

Well, you know, something tells me that there's a lot of lying going on down there.

Well, I think that goes back to the cheating is cheats?

I looked it up.

It's good sport.

I looked it up there's no such word.

Cheatiest is not a word.

I'm spelling it C-H-E-E-T-I-E-S-T.

I think it's.

E-A-T, is it E-A-T-E-S-T-E-S-T-E-S-T, but whatever the case may be, so it's basically your word against somebody else's word as to whether they spent more than $500 on their car.

Correct, correct.

That looks like a BMW, it is.

This is the E-36.

Not a slow car, but I was getting over the ANC, you cut the top off of it.

It's a convertible.

It's a $500 car.

Who cares?

Reduce weight.

Right, there was no top on it.

This is the cheatiest one.

This is your Mercedes-Benz C-230 compressor.

The diffuser has been around for years.

It's just stout competition and not sparing many expenses on it.

In all honesty.

What is it?

A turbo four, but it didn't happen in one year.

This is a couple of years of production to get to this level.

Is it a turbo four?

Don't get me lying.

Okay, you could ask the owner, but he's only going to lie.

No it's true, it's a stock motor, it's a stock motor it really is Now, when we added the turbo, we added a turbo.

Stock out of a Ferrari.

It really is.

It's straight up Sweet.

So it's a stock hair dryer, huh.

Got it.

Yeah, stock hair dryer.

It's good, they're good.

Boyle and.

Mercedes are actually in the vent.

Yes, Boyle and Mercedes.

I think that what you need to do, not that any of us are qualified to drive it, but we need to have the Apex Auto Works in-wheel time machine down there next year.

Yeah.

We're working on a car right now, so we'll get to get on and we'll talk on that.

A black Corvette.

We're working on one.

I'm driving.

Yeah, no, it's Corvette powered, but in a Miata, so probably not Drive it in reverse, oh God.

Here's just the best part about some of these lemon's cars they are still tagged and still treat legal, so people will actually use them to drive around from time to time.

I can see that.

I can see that it attracts attention.

Well, that'd be good on the Gulf freeway, or it'd be at 45th and North freeway.

That'd be my guess.

It's just.

It is one amazing time with a lot of cool people and a lot of cool cars.

All right, so our pick up and some cars that people have just forgotten about.

What time trucks allowed Do what?

What are pickup trucks allowed?

There are some S10s, the small ones.

Here's one here.

Here's S10.

As we bring that up, they actually do quite well.

They're tossable.

Of course, all of them are rear wheel drive as well.

Look at this.

One's even got AC on it, see AC.

I like it.

Richard what time does this event get started today?

Race actually starts at 10 today.

We'll start loading cars on track about 9.30

And then about 10 o'clock the green flag drops.

We race until 5.

20 bucks, I think, to get in for the day.

But come down and check it out.

You'll enjoy it, I promise.

So, besides the $500 car, what's?

The entry I've got a car and I want to run it.

What does it cost me to get in To run?

it.

Entry fee to the race is like $1,250.

The bigger part is all the safety equipment that you need to make it work Right.

That's a catalog.

That's the winner right there.

It's Jeff's car.

Yeah, this is a team work.

The tail fin is missing, but they do actually have a tail fin.

I don't know where it went.

It was on lot yesterday, but we're chasing cooling issues on this car yesterday.

Because it is cool.

Yeah, Jeff thinks it's cool.

Yeah, it's cool, baby, peak over here.

Yeah, peak over here.

The Volkswagen's are always fun too.

Okay, volkswagen bugs.

Well, $500 car.

Well, that's exactly, that's nothing.

Throw the right wheel on it, throw some nice Audi components in it.

It's pretty quick, that's nothing, nothing less than a rebadged Porsche.

Yeah, exactly.

So so, Richard, so all 110 cars hit the track at the same time.

I mean they're not classed or anything, it just winner, whoever there's three classes.

Class A is hey, you have a race car.

Class B well, you tried.

Class C did you even read the rules?

And that's how it works.

And if you're entering lemons, you don't have class.

Right, right right.

Simple classification.

You know what you're doing.

You kind of have an idea and what the hell.

You know, what would be really fun is for that place to have a circle track.

And so if you drill it down, because you couldn't get 110 cars on a half mile track, that'd be impossible to do, but you drill it down and you get 50.

50 of those cars on a circle track, three eighths mile, half mile, whatever, and let them go.

Oh, my God.

That would be too much fun.

That would be a rubbing and racing thing.

You couldn't get away with that.

Yeah, too much contact there, I'm sure.

So do you bring your welder with you there to do any of these, any of these cage modifications, or they all have to go back to the shop.

We used to bring everything here, but now we found out it's usually quicker to leave the fabricator at the shop and then we basically make all the work here.

Figure out what we're gonna do and then, we send them there on a schedule of every 30 minutes.

You gotta knocked out.

Nobody could find the shop.

Richard, you found it.

If you found it anybody, Well, there's that, yeah, the good thing that they've gotten braille.

Now seeing this is an old Bondurant car here, so we know it wasn't originally a 500 car, but now it is.

Yeah, because you said it was.

Well, richard's out there.

What time does this race actually start?

10.

10 10 am Paying attention.

Well, I didn't write that part of it down.

No, I was just thinking I was watching him walking around, so he's obviously got some good signal out there.

You know, if we had a car out there we could do our show out there from 8 to 11.

We could do it inside the race car.

Yeah the last hour.

We need to get your minivan and the four of us can ride in the minivan during the race.

I don't have a minivan.

I don't have one anymore, but I'll buy one.

That's the case, then I'm the driver.

Oh gosh, I've been in a minivan.

When you drive a note, it's like they're doing a NASCAR.

Let's talk to the driver now.

Here is a ranger that the team probably spent five, six hours yesterday working on getting it running and succeeded over 9 to PCM fuel pressure regulator, but which I'm out trucked, and this is Ford Ranger that's running the race as well.

With white wheels on it.

I like it Kind of a great little match.

That looks like tons of fun.

Richard, we sure appreciate you spending the time with us this morning just ahead of the green flag.

Look at all that crappling out there.

All right, we'll see you.

Appreciate it guys, thank you Appreciate it.

He has fun, doesn't he?

From the 24 hours of lemons to the pikes peak hill climb and everything in between.

Is he making money?

That's the real thing.

Obviously he is, if he's doing well, yeah.

Doing the Mexican desert he's putting a car.

He actually got a car that he puts up there on pikes, peak and takes to Mexico.

Well, there's that, yeah, yeah, all right, hey, we'd love to hear from you.

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Capri, toyota, tacoma.

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Volvo Amazon just a minute, we get let's catch up here.

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Don just mentioned the GMC Denali.

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Well not only that, but I mean now it's the, you know, the BMW M37 dash 4, 2, 3, 2, 1, 2, 3, do, do, do.

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About this episode

Dive into the quirky world of the 24 Hours of LeMons race with Richard Tomlin, an off-road racing expert. This episode highlights the fun and camaraderie of racing $500 cars, the unique judging system, and the eclectic mix of vehicles that participate. Richard shares stories about the challenges teams face, including penalties for 'cheating' and the hilarious antics that unfold on the track. The discussion also touches on cars named after places, making for a lively and entertaining listen.

Original notes

How about shaking up your day with a chat about the wild, wacky and utterly irresistible 24 Hours of LeMons? Richard Tomlin, a renowned road racing guru, Apex Auto Works owner and executive of SCCA, unveils the drama, tactics, and sheer hilarity that unfolds in this unique auto race. Imagine 110 cars with 5 drivers, and battling it out in vehicles they've scored for about $500 (with added safety gear, of course!). From the ever-changing rules, to the eclectic fleet of cars that arrive, Richard takes us behind the scenes of this epic race and even shares some of his own experiences getting cars ready for the showdown!

But it's not all high-speed hijinks, we also take a delightful detour into the intriguing realm of automobiles named after places. From the rugged Chevrolet Colorado to the sleek Ford Capri, we traverse through an exciting list of autos that wear their namesakes with pride. There's the Toyota Tacoma, Volvo Amazon and so much more! Got a car name that fits the bill? We invite you to join the fun on our Facebook page and share it with us.

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