S&YE218 - Jason Nugent Photo

Hello, this is Jason, and you can find me on Instagram at JasonNugentPhoto.

You are listening to episode 218 of the Subi and You podcast.

Pour yourself a coffee and strap in.

Well, I don't have coffee right now, but I do have some water to get me started on

the last episode of 2025.

So yes, this is episode 218, another Subi and You podcast episode, and the last episode

of 2025.

So as we close out 2025, that's going to be five years of doing this podcast.

So for all of you listening that have stuck around since the very first episode with

Jen back in January of 2021, I really, really appreciate you.

I thank you for sticking around for continuing to listen to all of the episodes.

And if you're new here, if this is your first time listening to the podcast, thank you for

listening and go check out all the other episodes.

There's a lot of great episodes.

There's people from the community just talking about how much they love their Subaru's,

which is why this whole thing was started in the first place because I saw how passionate

people are about their Subaru's.

And I thought that maybe people might want a place to share that passion, to talk about

their mods, to talk about their journey, places that they like to explore, also how great

this community is and how Subaru has or owning a Subaru has changed their life.

But I've also had on many brands, I've had on rally drivers and I've had on some

other people as well.

It's been a really, really incredible journey and I'm very thankful for everybody that listens

to and supports the podcast.

I'm thankful for support and sponsorship from Subaru of America, thankful to eccentric

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the Subi events like Wicked Big Meet, Boxer Fest and the various Subi Fest events across

the country.

They're a pretty big deal in the Subaru space as far as providing aftermarket parts for

Subaru's and I'm thankful for all of my sponsorships.

So thank you all so much.

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It was what got this whole thing started and I'm extremely and forever

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took a little convincing to get her to become my first guest.

So, so thankful for you, Jen.

Thank you so much for being a guest and also for sponsoring the podcast.

It has definitely been a great five years.

When I first started this podcast, I had no idea I would be doing some

of the things that I would be doing.

I didn't really even know that much about the community and I didn't

even know that much about Subaru, but I wanted to create a podcast for

the community and kind of like buy the community so people can again

share their stories, but also so other people in the community

could listen to those stories and hear from people that they maybe

had never heard their voice, but it's also gotten people connected

with each other because of the podcast because people will share

that they were on the episode or that they were on the podcast

and their stories and then somebody will see that and didn't know

that that person, you know, was out there in the community.

They didn't know about the podcast.

So the word of the podcast and just the word of other people

in the community has spread so much because of the podcast.

So over the past five years, it's been fun for me

to see how the podcast has impacted the community and then just

so many countless messages of people saying thank you for doing

the podcast and for getting people connected like never before.

And that wasn't my intent.

My intent was just to share people's stories and it became

so much more and I'm so grateful and thankful for everybody's

compliments and for everything that's happened because of the

podcast. And because of this podcast, I've been able to meet so

many people. I went out to Boxerfest in 2021.

I went out to Subifest, California in 2022.

I drove to Madison, Wisconsin in 2022 for Subaru Flatfest.

And then I've been out to Colorado with my kids to go meet up

with some people. I've been to Seattle, Washington,

and then we went to Oregon.

And then I've also been to California.

And so I've just I've been to a lot of different places.

And then, of course, last year, thanks to Subaru and Joe,

I was able to go out to four of the five Overland Expo events.

And because of going to all these events and going to all of these places,

I've been able to meet so many people out there in the community.

So I feel extremely blessed for that.

I feel so grateful that I've been able to meet so many people,

because as you all know, I'm held up here in my closet in Houston,

far away from so many people and so many really cool places.

So to be able to have traveled to so many different places

and have met so many people, I'm extremely grateful for that.

And I look forward to what will happen in 2026.

So it's been super exciting.

And, you know, and the other thing, too, is like I've met so many of my guests

in person, which is a really big deal, because since I record remotely,

I don't get a chance to meet very many people in person

normally or you would think normally.

But again, because of all the travel and getting to go to these events,

I've been able to meet so many people.

So I'm extremely grateful for that.

And it's just been an incredible journey.

And again, thank you all so much for supporting the podcast

and for listening, for sharing, for liking, for all the comments.

It's been an absolute amazing journey.

And I look forward to putting out more episodes.

I've already got the first episode recorded for 2026,

which is going to be episode 219.

So I've already gotten things kicked off for 2026.

And I still have plenty of guests on my list.

And I also want to bring back some more previous guests

to see like what they've been up to for the past few years.

So with that, we will go ahead and get into this episode here in a little bit.

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Now, before we go any further,

I want to wish everybody a Merry Christmas

because this is coming out right before Christmas.

I hope everybody has a wonderful week.

I hope you have great time with friends and family this week.

And let's just all celebrate safely, have a good time

and enjoy the holidays.

I will see you next Monday for the SUBI scoop

where I will wish you happy New Year.

With all of that, we will go ahead

and get into this episode with Jason

and hear all about his photography

that he's been doing for Subaru and his journey,

also his Subaru journey because he owns a Subaru,

which is really cool,

which is one of the reasons he's on this episode.

So thank you so much, Jason, for taking the time

to record, but we will go ahead

and get into this episode now with Jason Nugent.

It's great seeing you again,

because I've actually seen you in person at SUBI Fest Texas.

Yes, it's just nice to always have a personal experience

with somebody you're talking to online.

So this is awesome.

Yeah, and I can add you to the list of people

that have had on the podcast

that I've actually met in person,

which I'm very thankful for.

But what's fun about it is that it's so much fun

to be able to do this.

It's so much fun to be able to do this.

Very thankful for.

But what's funny though is,

I think it was the very first SUBI Fest Texas,

then you kind of like ran by me

because I know you're like crazy busy there,

always running around, taking photos and stuff.

And you're like, hey, Raph, how's it going?

And I'm like, I don't think I know who that is.

And then-

This has happened a lot to you when you're famous now

because of your podcast.

I mean, people run and pass you.

I mean, everybody knows what you look like,

but you don't know what all your listeners look like.

Yeah, because I mean,

a lot of times people will just have their Instagram handle

and they may not have a photo of themselves

and I've had people walk up and start talking to me

and I'm like, I don't know who you are

and I feel bad about that.

Well, I mean, like for me, like you've,

like we can get into this too,

but of course I am Canadian

and you've had other famous Canadians on here,

like Justin, Raleigh Medic and Tracy, you know,

from Raleigh the Tall Pines, Cross Trek.

Have you had other Canadians on yet?

Yeah, I had Maya.

She goes by, yeah, I can't remember,

Gravel Express, she's from Canada as well.

Of course.

Yeah, and then Mayo, I think his account

is like Mayo Calgary or something like that.

And then, so I think you might be like

the fifth or sixth person I've had on from Canada.

Oh, and of course you've talked to Warwick Patterson

and Christopher Brooks.

Oh, yeah.

They're both Canadians.

That's right, yeah.

So go Canada.

Yeah, man, we're taking over.

Yeah, yeah, no, it's cool.

I like that I'm able to have people on

from other parts of the world.

I mean, it's not like you're really far away,

but still it's an international guest.

True enough, true enough.

Yeah.

So before we get into anything,

I have to ask you the most important question as always

and that's whether you prefer waffles or pancakes.

Oh dude, it's not even close, it's pancakes.

Yes.

Yes, it's not even close.

Like it's all the things that make,

so I grew up really rural.

My parents were like blue collar shift workers

and it was rare that we had a Saturday or Sunday morning

and we were all in the house together growing up.

Like my mom was working, she was a nurse.

My dad worked in a mine.

I ended up working in the same mine later on in life,

but it was rare that we were always home in the morning.

But when we were, mom made pancakes

and it was with the,

we had the homemade bread for the toast and the jam

and the bacon and that whole memory,

that visceral experience with the real maple syrup.

Being from the Northeast, I grew up in maple country.

You know, we always had real maple syrup

and my partner Rose is from the Southern townships

in Quebec, just north of the Vermont border.

Like you can climb on top of your house

and see in a Vermont.

Oh, nice.

Yeah, from where she lives, she's right on the border.

You got to be careful with your cell phone.

I guess sometimes it'll connect to a Vermont tower

and you get charged for roaming.

Oh, that's crazy.

Yeah, yeah.

But like they all own maple syrup,

like farms and stands of trees and stuff like that

and they all make their own syrup and everything.

So yeah, it's ingrained in the culture

and the pancake goes with it.

Like the actual, I think like waffles

require too much infrastructure.

You need like the iron or the toaster.

Like with that pancake, you kind of do it.

I actually, have you watched mayor of Kingstown?

I have not.

Jeremy Renner.

Okay, so this, it's a really great show

but there's a scene, he wants to be a cook.

Like he talks about this a bit

and he makes this German pancake earlier on

in the first season.

And I remember watching him make it.

And now every time I make them,

I take a photo of the German pancake

and I tag mayor of Kingstown

and Jeremy Renner on Instagram.

They've never, you know,

they've never written me back yet

to say good job on pancake but that's not happened.

Yeah, it's just super easy.

Six eggs, a cup of flour, a cup of milk,

pour it into a cast iron pan for 20 minutes

at 400 degrees and it rises like a souffle.

And it's, you can just cut it

and wedges and stuff, it's amazing.

That sounds cool.

Make that at least once a week.

Yeah, yeah, I prefer, I like waffles too

but for me pancakes just a little bit more

but yeah, it's funny because like when growing up

I didn't have maple syrup.

I had the, you know, highly processed store bought

sugary syrup and that was like what I grew up with.

It wasn't until I became vegan

that I really started, that I got into maple syrup

because I used to use honey

and then I stopped using honey

so I started using maple syrup

and now like that's all I use, I love it.

And yeah, maple syrup's better.

Yeah, it's so good.

So I'm like, I was vegan for a while

and I stopped because I was traveling a lot

and I was going to countries

where it was really hard to be vegan.

Yeah. A lot of time in Eastern Europe,

the Czech Republic may as well put a ham on their flag.

So it's really difficult to be vegan in Eastern Europe

but I'm curious, what's your go-to pancake recipe

for being vegan?

What do you substitute for the eggs?

So I actually use, I mean,

when I've made pancakes before from scratch

and I actually found a recipe that uses oatmeal, banana.

So you take the oatmeal and you grind it up

to be like oat flour almost, you use that

and then you use bananas and then some other stuff.

It's like all just natural ingredients.

I've done that a few times but as other than that,

there's this brand called Birchbenders

and it's already a mix and you just add water,

you don't have to add egg or anything

and so I've been using that but it's quicker

but I have made them from scratch at times

and they are really good.

Yeah, the important bit is the crispy part on the edge.

Yes. Let me get them crispy.

See, I can't do that.

Like I can't do that at home

but there's this vegan restaurant called Spiral Diner

and their pancakes, however they make them,

they get that nice crispy edge to them

and oh man, they're so good.

Like it's like the perfect pancake.

It's like the most perfect pancake I've ever had.

It's amazing.

Yeah.

But we should probably get into some Subaru stuff, huh?

Yeah.

Cooking with broth.

Yeah, exactly.

I wanna start off with like how did you,

so you were obviously shooting at Subi events,

Wicked Big Meat, Boxer Fest and the Subi Fest events.

How did you get into doing that?

So most people have forgotten about the pandemic now.

We try to put it out of our minds

because it was like this period

where we weren't doing anything.

But I had already been doing rally

for quite a while at that point

and then, I mean, I was actually

at World Rally Championship Mexico

when the pandemic started really coming down

and that event was canceled today early

and we all kind of scrambled to get home.

And then I spent basically a year and a half,

two years in lockdown, right?

Like Canada opened up a little later than other countries

and my province in particular

had some travel restrictions imposed

that made it hard to do stuff.

Rallys were canceled, social gatherings were,

all that same, whatever, it's just the way it was.

So when all of that finally ended,

I was really looking forward

to just getting back out on the road

and doing a road trip, proper road trip someplace.

So I looked at what events were available in my area

and discovered Wicked Big Mead.

It's just kind of on the edge of what's comfortable

for a day's drive.

It's about seven and a half, eight hours away.

It's in Stafford Springs in Connecticut.

Yeah, it's not bad.

For me, yeah, for me, it's like,

I'm like an hour from the U.S. border.

I'm in New Brunswick in Eastern Canada in Fredericton.

So I crossed the border

and I go straight down the Island 5, almost to Boston.

And then I just drive west

for maybe an hour and a half or so and I'm there.

So I bought a ticket.

I went online, I bought a ticket.

I paid for a camping spot.

By the way, the pro tip for Wicked Big Mead

is to camp at Mineral Springs Campground

in Stafford Springs.

It's about six minutes from Mortar Speedway.

Good tip.

And the night before, Wicked Big Mead

is always like a mini Wicked Big Mead

at the campground

because there's so many other Subaru people

hanging out there.

Yeah, yeah.

They've got a really nice little campfires

and conversations and stuff.

So anyway, back on topic.

So anyway, I bought a ticket.

And of course, when you buy a ticket,

you end up on the mailing list

for opportunities to help out, to volunteer.

And one of those emails came from Khan.

I think Khan, has Khan been on the podcast?

He has, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

And Khan was looking for photographers,

which is typical for all the events.

And it's a paid position.

And I sent in samples of my work

and sure enough, I got a spot

on the media team for Wicked Big Mead 2023.

I went down, I shot the event.

I gave everybody my photos.

I had a great time.

Lovely people.

Rose came down with me,

although she just dropped me off the gate

and said, see you later.

I'm going antiquing and took off.

And that's it.

Nice.

Just hit all the art sales.

There's a ton.

There's a ton of that kind of thing.

There's a ton in New England.

And then just left me to my devices.

I shot the event and had a great time.

I was given all of the photographers

at these events are assigned positions.

So I was doing happenings,

which meant I got to go on the track with Bucky and...

Oh, nice.

And Daya Sohara and all of that.

And it was great.

And I had a wonderful time.

I came back and figured that was that.

I had a great road trip.

It was a wonderful experience and all that.

That was in 2023, right?

It was, yeah.

June 2023.

Two weeks later,

I get an email from Mark Shoemaker.

Yep.

And everybody who was involved in...

And he would know Mark because Mark's the SOA guy.

He handles their brand activation space

quite well. He manages all that.

He is the man.

Anyway, he said, would you be interested

in coming on board for the other events

as SOA's photographer?

And I was like, sure, no problem.

He had no idea I was Canadian at the time.

Did not realize that.

But I've got an international airport here

and I've got a Nexus card

and I can get through airports pretty quickly.

We had a quick Zoom call with Mark and Subaru

just to see if everything was gonna be a good fit.

And then he says, okay, book your flights.

So I got off the call and then I booked six,

six plane tickets in a row pretty much

to get me right through the next events

because they were coming up fast.

There was California.

Then there was, I'm wearing my boxer-fest shirt,

for people who want to see,

or not more sort of my big Northwest shirt.

Big Northwest, which happened to be the last year

of Big Northwest.

And then I just, it's funny

because I booked all these flights

and then just I came out into the living room

and told Rosa about this and she goes,

are you sure that guy was real?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

Wait a minute, did I just spend all this money

for nothing?

Yeah, yeah.

So anyway, then I went to all the events.

I covered the events and it was just,

I usually fly on the day before I shoot the event.

I'm given a very comprehensive shot list from SOA.

The idea is that I focus, I cover the event generally

but I also focus primarily on the SOA activation space

because they bring a ton of stuff to events.

They bring their racing sims

and all of their philanthropic endeavors and so on.

And I photograph all of that,

all of the cars they bring out the,

I'm there pretty much from sunrise until five o'clock,

before sunrise in a lot of cases,

like with the Subifest, Texas this year,

we all went over together as a group

at about 5.30 in the morning.

And I was there until the event ended

at whatever it was, three o'clock, four o'clock

or something like that.

And yeah, so I've been doing it ever since.

I've done them all since the beginning of 2023.

And then one more in the year.

We've got Florida in 18 days.

I think it is 19 days.

Yeah, yeah, last one.

Yeah, it's crazy how those things happen.

You decided to look for an event and you go down there

and then they ask you to be a photographer

and then now you're doing all the events, man.

That's pretty cool.

So there's a life lesson in this, right?

We can talk about philosophies and stuff later

but generally you have to pursue

things that you find interesting,

especially if you can't find other people

to do it with you.

We've got a small Subaru club here in Ferdinand,

the Ferdinand Subaru Society.

And I remember asking online, I said,

look, I found this event.

It could be really cool if we all convoy down

in our Subarus and we don't have to sponsor

or anything like that, but maybe we could just hang out

and go to the event together

and couldn't get anybody else interested in it.

Some of them didn't have passports and whatnot,

but still like it's just, I was like,

okay, you know what, I'm going anyway.

I'm going anyway.

I'm just gonna do this and go

and have a great time and create work.

And yeah, so I did and...

And I'm sure over the last three years

you've met a lot of people too by doing that.

Not just people from SOA,

but all the people from Subi events

and then just people there at the events.

It's weird, yes, like just to be,

to know people like Bucky and Ri

to see them and say hi and, you know,

and just to have that casual relationship

with people that I've looked up to my whole life, you know?

Like my brother and I are pretty much the same age,

we're two weeks apart, I'm 52, he's 51.

And we're all kind of, and we grew up skateboarding.

And like when I say we live the rule,

we really live the rule.

Like we used to make ramps in the driveway,

skateboard ramps in the driveway

where you would launch off the ramp

and land and gravel and just stop, right?

But like you'd have to go into town.

You'd have to go into town to find like a parking lot

or something to skate on,

but we were looking at Thrasher magazine and seeing

Tony Hawk and Bucky and stuff like that

and just thinking, oh man, it'd be so cool

to meet these people and, you know,

now I see Bucky on the weekends sometimes

and it's just, it's a, it's a pinch me moment.

These are pinch me moments, right?

These are really wild things.

Like I hang out with, with, with, with Horison,

the CEO and chairman of Subaru at Boxer Fest this year

for an afternoon and to send him photos afterwards

and say thanks for coming out.

And that's just a weird, like if you had told me

all those years ago when I bought my first Subaru

that this is where the arc was gonna go,

I would have laughed at you and said, you're crazy.

Yeah, it's, I mean, my journey's been pretty crazy too

because like I didn't even really have any interest

in Subaru until 2013 when I saw my first Cross Trek.

So this is, I mean, it's, that was, you know what?

Like almost like 12 years ago, but still,

I didn't even, you know, I didn't buy a Subaru

until September of 2020.

So my Subaru journey didn't really start until then.

And there's still so much, it's, yeah,

I would have never imagined that I would be going out

to Overland Expo and, you know, yeah, it's just,

I don't know, it's crazy.

And yeah, for me too, like to say,

it's just like being in an event and have Bucky say,

hey, Raph, how's it going?

You know, and be on it and it's crazy.

Well, I still remember the first time it happened.

I think it was in California of 2023

when Bucky waved to me on the way out

and I looked behind to see if he was waving at somebody else

because I was like, are you actually talking to me?

Me?

Me, really?

I was like, yeah.

So yeah, that was a weird, weird kind of moment.

Yeah.

And like, that's just it.

Like I'm really lucky and really fortunate

to have this opportunity to work with SOA.

And like, it is with SOA.

It's a little fuzzy at the moment

because now Mark is working with SUB events.

Yeah.

But it is with SOA.

And at the moment, there isn't a lot of other work

with SOA, but I would love there to be.

Like, you know, if there's a-

Yeah, so it's just been the SUB events?

So far, yeah.

Okay.

There was a bit of preliminary work.

The day before Boxer Fest this year,

if you recall Boxer Fest,

they did the unveil for the series Yellow Cars,

the BRZ and the WRX.

By the way, it's BRZ.

Yeah, I just, I noticed you didn't say BRZ.

No, I did not.

So like, I think I was the first person to drive

both the cars at Boxer Fest

because I helped unload them off the trucks

and then I had to photograph them for the website.

So that was kind of another weird thing

and just to get into them and drive them around

and park them and-

It's nice.

Brought back memories of,

I used to have to do a long time ago,

early on in the photography career,

I did work as,

I worked for a media company

that would go to car dealerships

and we would photograph cars

for the dealerships to advertise on websites

like AutoTrader and stuff like that.

So I would get a call the night before

and say, go to dealership X and talk to Y

and I would show up and go look for the marketing guy

and he would hand me a pile of car keys

and say, go photograph these cars

and I would take like 10 or 15 of the cars

and just shoot them in the lot

and I had a photo set that would work off

of and do 20 or 25 photos of each car

and then it was awful work.

It's usually like you're standing on a hot ass

but it prepared me for this, man.

I tell you, photograph cars and do that kind of thing.

So how long have you been doing photography

because obviously it's something

that you're passionate about

and it sounds like you created a career out of it

and then it led to this now.

Yeah, so I picked up a camera late in life.

Like, I mean, this is another life lesson, right?

It's never too late to start anything.

I was maybe 30, 31.

I was 20, 22, 23 years ago, I guess,

when I first picked up a camera.

I bought a, my first camera was a Fuji FinePix 4900Z.

It was like this little point and shoot

that I was using to photograph.

I was doing graphic design work.

Like I'm a trained chemist is my background,

my science background, chemists and math.

And I switched to graphic design

in the late 90s and early 2000s

and I was tired of paying for stock photos.

Stock photography back then was expensive and annoying.

You would actually order the big books,

the catalogs that would come in the mail

and you would fill out the form

and mail it off to get the photos.

There wasn't, it wasn't a digital thing at that point.

So you would get these big books in the mail

and then choose the photos you wanted

and they would send them to you.

And I'm like, if I had a digital camera,

I could just go out and create all kinds of stock photography

for myself and use stuff for my website.

I was designing sites and stuff.

So that's how I got started.

And then I started traveling a lot, like a lot.

2005, 2006, I discovered that I really liked

finer at landscape work

and I gravitated towards expedition work

and specifically like really cold kind of remote places

where I spent a lot of time outside,

the physical exertion of hiking for a long distance

over a couple of days to kind of get a photo.

The art is kind of in the actual act of pursuing the photo.

It's not necessarily the photo itself.

You just kind of see what you get.

And I still do, I still do fine art landscape

and I exhibit at some galleries here in New Brunswick

and around Canada.

And that was the reason why I really started shooting.

The car culture came later.

Once I bought my second Subaru,

I'd already had one at that point.

My first Subaru was a 98 Forester

that I bought new in 1998.

Nice. Yeah.

It was a five-speed, it was the black, the toaster,

the five-speed that the Forester asks, right?

And I went through every single stereotypical Subaru problem

that you can have with that car.

I had the head gaskets, the viscous coupling

and the back, all that stuff went on it eventually

and loved it.

Ray Dader went a couple of times,

but yeah, it was just phenomenal in the snow.

It was a great car to drive and I had that car.

Go ahead.

Just real quick, you mentioned the viscous coupling.

I mistook my viscous coupling for my axles clicking

and I replaced both my front axles

and it was actually my viscous coupling.

So now I have a new viscous coupling

and new axles that I didn't need.

Yeah.

Yeah. Well, yeah.

I mean, it's just for me that the telltale sign

was really tight corners.

Yep.

But if I was turning a really tight radius,

I could hear that clicking sound.

Yeah.

And apparently in the automatics,

there was a fuse you could pull out

to disable rear wheel drive at the time.

I don't know if you can still do that or not,

but it was kind of like the telltale symptom

because you could turn that, you could turn it off.

Yeah.

And then if the problem went away,

you knew that that was the issue.

I don't know if that's still a thing or not,

but yeah, I had that fixed.

And I kept that car until I think 2006 or 2007.

And at that point I was living in Dabranzoch again

and then sold it.

And actually went a couple of years without a car

and bought my 2014 hatch, my Impresa hatch,

also a five speed.

Very nice.

2013, yeah, the end of 2013.

And it was like that dark sapphire blue color

they were doing at the time,

not the same sapphire blue that the STI came in,

I don't know what it's called,

the Lapis blue pearl, whatever it was that they,

it wasn't that color, it was a different color.

And I bought that car because I started dating

my current partner, Rose,

and she lived way the hell out of town.

I was like, how am I supposed to get to see you

if I don't have a car?

Yeah, that's kind of important.

Yeah, so I ended up getting my Impresa then

and coming back to photography and rally and stuff,

when you buy a new Subaru in Canada at the time,

you started getting a copy of something called

Six Star Magazine, which was a publication

that Subaru Canada sent to all of their customers.

It used to be in print, now it's digital only,

which is kind of a shame because it's nice to have

like a real meaty magazine twice a year in your hands.

And it went out to you at the time,

but it was like something like 150,000 households in Canada.

And I started getting this magazine

and it was a mix of everything.

It had like lifestyle in it, press releases,

articles about cars, a lot of travel stuff.

But there was also this thing that they did

called like the 360, which was a column

that often covered the results

for the Canadian rally team, SRTC,

Subaru Rally Team Canada.

And I was like, wait a minute, there's rally?

Like this was my ignorance showing.

I didn't really understand

that there was a lot of rally in Canada.

I was well aware of the WRC at this point.

It was one of the reasons why I bought my Forester.

You know, Colin McCrea went his championship in 95

and that really cemented it for me.

Like where I grew up in,

I grew up three hours north of where I live now.

And at the time in the 70s and the 80s,

like there were no Subarus.

Nobody was driving a Subaru.

It was a town of like maybe 12,000 people.

And I lived the outside of the town.

And it was only until I went to Halifax

to study school in the 90s

that I just discovered Subaru as a bigger,

because I was in a much bigger town.

But seeing Colin McCrea win his championship,

right, that iconic moment where he's doing donuts

with the Scottish salt tire out the window,

you know, the flag.

I was like, okay, this is it for me.

Yeah.

Perhaps not an STI.

Let's start with a Forester first.

Yeah, yeah.

But that was the moment.

And then the arc kind of continued and noney

and I bought my Forester.

It's actually kind of,

so it's a bittersweet day actually.

We're doing this on November 25th.

Yeah.

Subaru rally, like today is the 24th anniversary

of Richard Burns winning his championship in 2001

and also 20 years since he passed.

So same day, four years apart.

Oh wow.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's turned out that way.

Yeah.

So here's to Richard Burns.

I mean, one of the great Subaru drivers of that era,

you know.

Yeah.

But yeah, so anyway,

I started getting this magazine

and discovered that there was rally in Canada

and looked up where the rallies were

and found out that I lived four hours

from Raleigh-Bétis Choller,

which is in the gas bay in the east of Quebec

and a beautiful part of the country.

It's a bit of a pain to get to

in terms of driving for most of Canada,

but because I live on the east coast,

it's not so bad for me.

And I just, I went on the website

and I applied for media credentials

without really knowing anything about what I was doing

or getting myself into.

I was like, I'm gonna go photograph this

and let's see how it goes.

And I didn't hear anything back

until like a week before the event.

And I suddenly got an email

from the guy running the media team

with this thing called the Rootbook attached to it.

So if the Rootbook is the entire course

as a giant PDF document with turn-by-turn navigation,

so it starts from rally headquarters,

has maps of all the stages.

And it's kind of like a very rough version

of the pace notes that the drivers create in the cars.

Oh, okay, yeah.

You can use the Rootbook to get onto the stages

and at least have an idea of where you're going.

And it's about a hundred somewhat pages worth of PDFs

because it covers the whole rally.

It's hundreds of kilometers long.

And I was like, wait a minute,

am I gonna have to drive this?

Is this what I'm doing?

Is this, what am I getting myself into this right now?

Am I actually gonna drive all this?

So I went to the gas bay and it was pouring rain.

It was just the muddiest, wettest day.

And I was like, okay, let's look at the schedule.

I went to pick up my vest.

And the first thing, and this is true

for a lot of motorsport photography,

is the kind of, once you pass the safety briefing,

they pretty much leave you to your own devices.

You're left alone.

And as long as you bring back the vest

and don't get in trouble with the marshals,

nobody really checks in on you.

You're just kind of left to go and do your thing.

But at the time you kind of didn't know

what your thing was, huh?

No, I didn't.

I didn't really know.

I looked at the schedule

and I had all the start times for all the stages.

And I had the GPS coordinates

of where all the stage starts were

and started overlaying that with Google Maps on my phone,

sitting in my car, rain pouring down,

just kind of watching, you know,

watching this stuff go by.

And I was setting all this stuff up

and I drove to the start of the first stage,

which was a stage called RPM.

And if anybody is listening to this

and knows Raleigh Biddishler,

you know what the RPM stage is.

It's like a little track.

And it's like, that's what they call

like a super special, all the fans.

It's easy access for the fans

and everybody can kind of,

because that's one of the problems with Raleigh

is just access.

It's very important for fans to get into the stages

and stuff sometimes.

So they usually create these,

these easy to access stages that are close to town.

And RPM is one of these.

And I went there about an hour early

because I was told to be at the stages an hour early.

And I met a guy that has become a lifelong friend

and companion for Raleigh.

His name is Fred Sontair.

He was in Montreal.

And he and I have just done so many rallies together

over the years.

I think he does the social media

for the Canadian Raleigh Championship pages now.

But I met him, he was sitting in his car at the same time.

And we just started talking

and we ended up shooting the entire rally together.

And he made sure I didn't do anything super stupid.

And I got photos that I was pretty happy with

for a first time out.

And I didn't break anything.

And I came home with, yeah.

Nothing is harder on camera gear than stage rally.

What about the rain though?

Like how did you prepare for that?

You just deal with it.

Like I was wearing, like I had rain gear on.

And I had a cover for my camera

which keeps it pretty dry.

And the camera gear is, yeah, camera gear,

especially modern camera gear is not nearly as susceptible

to wet as it used to be.

So it's pretty good.

Like all my lenses are weather sealed and stuff,

but still it's a challenge to work with.

You just gotta watch out for things like flying rocks

and mud and stuff like that.

And then it's just started, you know, it's snowballed.

And when I got media cred,

I reached out to Subaru Canada via Twitter of all places

on, I sent the six star magazine people an email.

And I said, I went to this rally, do you want content?

And they wrote me back and they said, yes.

And they bought a couple of photos off me,

not from the first rally I did,

but then from the second one,

which was a couple of weeks later,

a couple of months later in Western Quebec

at a rally called Rally De Fit.

I drove to that one and did the same thing.

And this time I knew what I was doing.

I went a day early.

So I had time to properly look at the stages.

And then I got good content and it's been a,

it's been a great partnership since then.

I think I've had content with the exception

of maybe one of the issues during the pandemic.

I've had content and I think nearly every issue

of the magazine since 2014 or 2015.

Wow.

That's nice.

Yeah, it's been great.

Yeah, including some big travel pieces.

Like I went to Iceland and I've been Iceland a couple

of times and there's some work for Subaru over there.

I did a long road trip through Grasslands National Park

out in Saskatchewan in 2018 or I think it was 2018

and wrote some stuff for them for that.

And they've been, it's been great.

It's been a really,

working on an article right now,

hoping for the issue that's going to come out

in January, 2026, possibly about to be fast.

So we'll see.

Oh, nice.

So how many rallies have you shot?

Just countless?

Oh dude, it's gotta be 50, 60 at least,

something like that.

For a while I was doing like 10 a year maybe.

And it's a mix of everything.

It's CRC work, it's ARA work.

There's some WRC in there as well.

Like WRC is a little hard because you really need that.

You really need the paid work to get over there

to cover events in Europe.

It gets kind of spendy otherwise,

but if I can drive to it, I'll do it.

The only rallies that I haven't driven to

are the ones way out west in Canada.

I've flown to those.

And it's the only time I've also put a car

in the ditch.

It was a rental car, I had a Kia Forte

at Rocky Mountain Rally in 2018.

And I was on some stupid forest road

in the middle of British Columbia.

And I was like, I can climb that.

It's not so steep, it just started sliding backwards.

And I put the back end of the car off the road

and the front of the car was pointing

kind of straight up at the sky.

And I'm like, well, this is a problem.

This is a real problem.

It was a funny kind of running joke

in the rally community in North America,

about white Racky cars.

And this was a white Kia Forte

that just happened.

I did that.

So I'm standing in the middle of the road

in the middle of the forest

trying to get cell signal to call a tow truck.

And I was like, I am not driving out there

unless you text me your credit card number right now.

And I'm like, that's fine.

Then I had a, yeah, it was a mess.

But we got it out, no damage to the car.

That's fine, but it was a good moment.

Have you done any photography

for any of the rallies?

Oh, never mind.

You said A.R.A.

Yeah.

So funny thing.

Let me just stop myself there.

See how much I know about rally.

New England Forest Rally is kind of my home rally.

It's kind of my local event, I guess.

It's maybe four and a half hours away from me,

just in kind of, I mean, it used to be my home rally.

I guess it's canceled now, unfortunately,

which is the unfortunate aspect of rally sometimes.

Like you just lose access to roads

or the insurance costs get too high or whatever.

And it's just, you know, it's always sad when you lose one

because these rallies have been running like decades,

50 plus years in some cases for some of these events, yeah.

Have you, so all this work that you've been doing,

like when you did that first rally

and where you didn't know what you were doing,

was this all photography work that you were doing full time

or were you doing photography

and then some other sort of work for income?

So it's been full time for quite a while now,

probably at least 10, 15 years.

It's been full time work.

I do occasionally get pulled into other projects

that are photography adjacent, like lots of time.

Because I have a background in software development as well,

sometimes I get pulled into the website creation aspect

of a photography project.

People need a website or they need, you know,

something designed to go with the photos and stuff like that.

So occasionally I get pulled into that.

And that happens kind of all the time.

But yeah, photography is a full time thing.

Most of my work is not sexy enough

to make it on a social media.

That's just the way it is.

I do more sport work.

I do a lot of landscape work.

But I do commercial photography for events that include,

for organizations that include event work.

And there's even, we have a chain of stores here in Canada

called Giant Tiger, kind of like a French Walmart.

Le Tigre Géant.

Yeah, they're based out of Quebec.

And like when they open a new store in Canada,

they bring me in.

Oh, nice.

Yeah, to photograph the store the day before.

So when it's perfect, all the aisles are nice and straight

and the products are faced and the floors are clean

before the mobs of people descend on it

and trash the place.

Yeah, and they want every aisle photographed perfect

from front to back, nice and straight.

And like, you know, then there's usually like

the morning after, during the ribbon cutting ceremony,

I'll get that and then there's usually stuff

for the kids and stuff like that.

And I'll photograph all that.

But I'm never gonna put that on Instagram.

Nobody needs to see aisles of Rice Krispies or whatever.

It's just, but you know, like it pays well.

It's fine, I'll do it

because it's commercial work and it's photography work.

But yeah, it is a full-time gig.

So shooting that first event, that just,

and then I guess the somewhat success of that

just kind of propelled you forward

to wanting to do more events, huh?

Yeah, you get addicted to it, right?

Like, I mean, I find, like I've done

other forms of motorsport as well.

I've covered like Honda Indie.

I've done, I've covered Subaru's,

not all of it, but a lot of Subaru's involvement

with Rallycross, which is something else

that sadly ended, it's too bad

because it was really cool.

But I did that and I find Rally ticks all the boxes

for me as far as combining like the travel

because you're usually driving

to small towns and remote places.

They're often pretty scenic, very beautiful places.

Oh yeah.

Like STPR, which is one of the events

that happens in the States in the fall is beautiful.

The colors are just spectacular.

Like the leaves are changing.

It's pretty hard to take a crappy photo of a rally car.

Oh, I'm sure.

Like especially Subaru, you know,

the blue and gold car kind of drifting sideways

and there's like a dust and then the leaves

are all gold and yellow

and maybe the sun is coming through.

It's beautiful.

Like it's hard to beat that.

It's hard to do that on a track,

an asphalt track with a Budweiser sign behind you

or something like that.

It just doesn't look nearly as good.

Yeah, no, those rally stages are just like all those,

all the shots that I see, you know, for all of that.

I mean, you've got the most amazing backdrop

for all of that, you know, you just,

like you said, you can't beat that.

I mean, it's beautiful.

Yeah, and then like, I mean,

we've got some pretty stunning,

like in Canada, especially out West,

like there's a Rocky Mountain rally,

there's one spot.

And like everybody knows, like there's a hairpin turn

on a stage called Hawk Mountain.

I think it is, is it Hawk?

Yeah, I think it's Hawk.

And there's a hairpin where you've got like

the Coutines Mountains in the background

and you can kind of get the car drifting on the corner

with like the mountains in the background.

And it's just, it's pretty,

the Rocky Mountains are right there.

It's just, it's amazing.

In Europe, you get a different vibe.

Like with that rally Spain,

you get the, like the old castles

or something like that or the medieval roads

or the bridges and thousands of fans.

And then it's a different, yeah, that's terrible.

It's just terrible.

It's a completely different vibe.

And then in Finland, it's just big jumps everywhere.

But you're still like,

the dense forest ages are harder to make look nice.

Like you, you get the great car shot,

but you have to be creative sometimes, right?

And like remote cameras help.

You can set up a camera at one place.

And then, cause that's the problem with rally

from a logistics perspective too,

is once the cars go by, they're gone.

Yeah.

You've got to get in your car

and then figure out how to get ahead of the rally again.

And that's where the Racky the day before comes in.

So this is another aspect of why I really like rally

over other forms of motorsport.

That logistical challenge of planning your route

and looking at a map and figuring out

what roads connect to other roads

and then getting ahead of the stages

so you can get into another spot

before the cars come by.

Because you can't leave,

you can't, and Justin will lecture,

if you ever get rallymatic back on here,

he will lecture about safety.

Yeah.

You can't leave your spot until sweep comes through.

And that's after all the cars have gone by.

So you're stuck there unless you've parked

on a junction road or something,

a side road to get out and kind of sneak by stuff.

But therein lies the challenge

because sometimes these roads are not always great.

The rally volunteers and teams

that are putting on these events

often spend weeks cleaning up the roads

and making sure that they're all safe

and free of debris and stuff like that.

But the side roads, eh, maybe not.

And then I'm in a,

at Rally Bady Schiller a couple of years ago,

like we ended up, I still had my old car,

I still had my impress, so maybe this was in 2019,

but we were up to the,

like the front grill in a river

thinking it was gonna go someplace

or just trying to drive across this road

and it turned out there was a chain link fence

on the other side and I had to turn around and do it again.

Oh man.

It's like, oh man, really?

Yeah.

You know, it's good when you've got

two other rally photographers in the car with you

and they're all leaning out the window filming

what will happen?

Really, oh, that's gonna be proof of this.

That's online someplace anyway, that's good time.

What have been some of your best moments

doing the motorsport shoots?

Or rallies, I guess.

Yeah, like arguably my best rally memory

is probably being in Spain in 2019

when Oitanic won his championship, finally.

Like just to see him do that,

like it wasn't Subaru, obviously he was kind of Subaru,

he was with Toyota and they owned 20% of Subaru

so we can call it a win there at that time.

But like he had a whole pile of setbacks, his whole career,

he'd always had like heartbreak, mechanical issues

and stuff like that.

And to finally win the championship in Spain,

he didn't win the rally,

Terry Neuville won that one,

but like to see when the championship was outstanding,

I'm pretty sure like the country of Estonia

shut down that day completely

because there were so many Estonian flags on the stages.

Like I think everybody was in Spain

or on their phone watching the event

and just to see him do that was pretty great.

That's cool.

Also like being at,

like being at Tall Pines in, I think it was 2017

when Subaru Canada locked up

their last manufacturers championship

because that was the last event that they were involved

from an actual team perspective in rally in Canada,

they sponsored the series until the beginning of 2024,

end of 2023, but that was the last year

that they had a factory team.

So being there for that was pretty special.

Who knows, it might come back, you never know.

Those have been some pretty great highlights.

What about any not so great moments?

I had a car hit a camera at Rally Paris Nage

in 2018, I think it was.

I had a remote camera set up on a corner

and just a little too close

and the car drifted around, it was a nighttime stage

and the car drifted around the corner and clipped it.

What's wrong with them?

They didn't see your camera there?

Is that how I can consider it?

No, it's just that.

Yeah, they even broke my tripod.

Geez.

Those dickheads.

Anyway, it is what it is.

So that was a Spendi insurance claim.

Yeah, that's a risky gotta take.

Yeah, my insurance company actually dropped me after that.

I don't think they knew, yeah,

I don't think they knew how much insurance company,

how much camera gear cost.

So when I submitted a claim for like eight grand,

they were like, wait a minute, what?

It's a game, you know?

Oh, that's funny.

You're the one that gave me the $15 a month rider.

It's your fault.

So I was actually, I was just getting out of Nepal

that same year later on in the spring

and I got back to Kathmandu

and started checking my email

and I had this email from my insurance company

saying that I needed to switch to this business policy

that was substantially more expensive with less coverage

or they were gonna cancel my home and my car.

Oh my gosh.

And I'm like, I was like, fine, cancel it.

And they did, so thanks.

I ended up switching insurance companies

and now I've got dedicated insurance

through a different company.

But it all worked out.

Yeah, yeah.

So we know why you got your interest in Subaru first

then you had your Forester and then your Impressa

but when did you get your WRX?

Did you buy it new and what year is it?

I did buy it new

and it was another pandemic boredom thing.

It was 2021, it was in the summer of 2021.

And I was looking at my 2014 Impressa

and like for those who don't know

like the roads up here in the winter are brutal.

Like the salt will just eat a car, pretty bad.

And it was starting to get to that point

where I was like, well, it's gonna start getting spendy.

I needed a new steering rack at that point.

There was a bunch of other stuff

that was starting to get pretty bad on it.

I just did the big D service

which is the 100,000 kilometer service on it

which is like the plugs and a lot of that other stuff

that's anyone and I was like, okay,

this is a good time to switch and sell it.

And at the time, the idea was to,

I wanted a WRX because it's the car

that I always wanted, it's the rally car.

But it's also the STI is nice, but I don't track it.

And I wanted something that was maybe a better daily driver.

So I went with the WRX and I bought it new.

It's a base model, six-beat.

I didn't want a sunroof.

And base models in Canada come with heated seats

which was important.

Yeah.

I would hope they would up there and that client.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm pretty sure they all do.

I'm pretty sure all of the base model cars in Canada

and Subaru's come with heated seats now.

That makes sense.

But no TPMS sensors.

So there's that.

Interesting.

Yeah, we don't get a full-size spare too, which is nice.

Oh yeah, that is good.

Yeah.

And then the idea was for that car to replace my hatch

as my rally wrecky vehicle.

I was gonna use it to just do road trips and stuff.

The same thing I was doing with the hatch.

But of course this was in 2020

and the pandemic dragged on a little bit.

And I got bored and I started modifying the car

and pretty soon it's a little lower than it.

Yeah, a little lower than it should be now

and it ended up becoming, it's a garage princess now

which is why I also have the cross track.

But we can talk about that one in a minute.

Yeah.

But yeah, the WRX is, both cars are modified.

The WRX is, I've got skid plates on it

because I was thinking about making it a rally vehicle

for doing stage wrecky and stuff

and bringing it into the woods.

I did put skid plates on it.

They're made by a fellow in Quebec named Vince Trudell

who's also a rally driver in Canada.

He's out of Quebec City.

A's performance is his company and it's great.

It's a great skid plate.

And I've done a lot of cosmetic mods on the car

but I've also done billet works, short throw shifter on it,

diode dynamics, fog lights, I've put,

I did a complete four pot, two pot,

Fuji heavy industry brake conversion kit on the car.

So I pulled off all the calipers and put on the old red

calipers that were on the older W version.

I think it's 06, 07, something like that era.

I bought them off of a friend and took them all apart

and cleaned them up and repainted them

and put new seals in them and everything.

And then the only engine mod is an air oil separator

from Radium Engineering.

Okay.

Because there is literally no point in tuning a car

I personally feel where I live

because the best gas I can get is 91 octane.

We don't have the 85 or any of that cool stuff.

And if you're really gonna push the power level

on the car, that's probably nicer to have

like a better feel with knock prevention

than we just don't have it here.

Yeah.

I like that route.

Have you done all the modifications yourself?

I've had a hand in everything.

I've had help from a good friend of mine.

He's a Subaru tech this here in Fredericton.

He drives an STI and he's actually a Kia now.

He's not at Subaru anymore,

but he was always a Subaru guy.

And we've been able to go into the engine bay.

We've got a great dealer here.

I got a really good dealership here

that lets me do stuff on my car on the weekends

if I go in with somebody who knows what they're doing.

That is really nice.

Yeah, it's great.

So we did the brake conversion there.

We took us a couple of hours and we just knocked it out

because we were able to put it up on a lift

and just take all the everything off at once.

And frankly doing-

We need that here.

Yeah.

I mean, like-

Because I've got work I could do.

Like come on, West Houston Subaru,

let me come over and use your left.

Right?

They're shying away a little bit

from like doing mods just generally

because it becomes a hassle for warranties

and stuff like that.

But like as long as I don't ever go in and say,

oh, this modification that we did on a Saturday

in your shop is causing problems with the car.

That's totally fair.

Oh, of course.

Just having access to do that is pretty good.

Yeah, that's like a huge benefit.

Yeah, so props to Matt for helping me out

with stuff like that and just doing brakes

by yourself as a pain in the butt too.

Like you're bleeding brakes

and you can't really see what you're doing

when you're in the car and out of the car

and with two people, it just goes way faster.

Yeah.

Yeah, but the car's great.

There's a, I've got some JDM parts on it now.

There's some, I got some wide body stuff on it in the back.

Well, so I done to it.

A lot of billet work stuff inside.

Window vents, just stuff to make the car

a little more enjoyable to drive.

I had a guy in Florida hand stitch me some leather.

No, Alcantara, not leather.

Alcantara shift boots for my brake and my shifter.

Yeah. Very nice.

Yeah, so it was great.

I met him at Soobie Fast Florida

the first year I was down there

and we kind of stayed in touch and he did that for me.

I don't know how much of that he's doing anymore,

but they're great.

What is Alcantara?

It's kind of like, it's like a synthetic leather.

Okay.

It's got like a fuzzy texture on it.

There's probably some in your car already.

There might be some like the,

maybe on the steering wheel or something like that,

but it's a really nice,

it's like if you're looking for a vegan texture alternative,

that's the way to go.

I think it's really, it's very durable.

Billetworks uses it on their fusion shift knobs as well.

So you can grab that shift knob.

It's a weighted knob.

The problem up in this climate is that your shift knob

is either blazing hot or freezing cold

if it's made of metal.

You're either grabbing a black hole

or you're grabbing like the sun

and the Alcantara makes it bearable in the summer.

Cause like we get these crazy temperature swings,

like it'll go from,

let me see if I can do this in Fahrenheit.

It'll go from like 30 below zero in the winter

to a hundred Fahrenheit in the summer.

And we have these 90, 90 days

where it's 90 degrees and 90% humidity.

Oh yeah, we get that here too.

It's horrible.

Yeah.

So like that's a pretty typical August for us

because there's a huge river

that splits the city right in half.

If you've been to Minneapolis and St. Paul,

it's sort of the same setup.

We have the Wallastok River that cuts the city in half.

And it's about half a mile wide at some places.

So it definitely adds to the humidity in the summer.

You definitely feel it.

Yeah, me and my son were actually talking

about that last night, about the humidity here.

He said that there's been times when he,

cause he's going to school

and he said that he parks as close as he can

to the building.

And he's like, I'll get out of my car

and walk to the building.

And by the time I get there, I'm sweating.

And then I told him about how, where I used to work,

we had a parking garage.

And so the building would dump out

into the parking garage.

So you're not even in the sun at all.

And I walked out there one day

and I just started sweating

because it was just like walking into a sauna.

It was, it was awful.

But yeah, we get that here too.

The only other place where I've experienced that,

like I haven't been to Houston that much,

except at night, I've spent time at Houston.

When I flew back from Mexico, that's where we were.

I was in the University of Mexico.

We spent time in Houston.

But like, Dallas doesn't really get that humidity.

No.

So Subifest, Texas is nice.

But when I was in Vietnam in 2009,

like it was, everybody's got the air conditioning cranked

full blast.

And when you walk outside,

you're freezing cold inside, you walk outside.

When you step outside, you're soaking wet

because all of that humidity contents us on you.

Yeah.

And you're miserable.

Then you go back inside again

and you're soaking wet and shivering for an hour

until you dry up and it's brutal.

I don't know.

I don't have air conditioning in the house here.

We don't need it.

It's just, it's like for maybe two weeks of the year.

It's, it's slightly annoying.

Yeah.

But really manageable.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

So you, you said that your car is like a garage princess

and you ended up building your own garage for it, right?

Specifically for your WRX.

The most expensive mod I've ever had.

This was me getting frustrated.

So I bought the car in 21

and I didn't drive it much that winter.

Like I work from home, right?

Like for me, like a long drive for me

is about three miles, four miles.

You know, I don't have too far to go

if I want to run to a grocery store or something.

And lots of times the car doesn't even get up

to get up to temperature by the time I'm at my destination.

And that's not great for the car.

And I just, I didn't want the salt really damaging it.

So I would take it out.

We would get fresh like everybody,

everybody tells me, it's like,

why don't you drive your car in the snow?

It's the snow's the best part of owning a Subaru.

And they're right.

We all love snow.

Snow's not the problem.

It's salty slush.

Salty slush is bullshit and not worth anybody's time.

Right?

So what would happen is I would just,

I would take the car out and you know,

hoon around in the snow a little bit

and then park it again.

And I decided that when the spring came,

I was going to build a garage.

So for, that was in April of 2022.

And it didn't get built until September of 2022.

But yeah, we just, for a long time,

I was like less nested and I had like these stakes

and lines on the lawn where the garage

was going to go and like walls.

If you've watched WKRP, you know what I mean.

And this is where the door is going to be.

And Rose was like, I don't see it.

I don't see how this is going to fit.

I was like, you wait, this will go, this will be fine.

And I had a good contractor

and I did all the architectural plans myself

and filed all the patents, all the permits for the city

and stuff like that and did all that.

And then we slowly, we dug a full foundation for it.

It's tied into the house's foundation

and not a single drop of rain fell on it

once the floor was done.

And then we built all, yeah, we built all the walls

and I rolled into it in, I think November of that same year

and then had snow, like maybe a couple of weeks later

and the car is inside right now

and like the roads are salty here now

and stuff and it's probably gonna,

if we get some rain and it cleans up,

I'll probably take it out, just have some fun with it.

But the cross track is my daily.

The cross track sees all of the winter weather

and the elements and it's a lot of fun too

in a different way.

Yeah, so when did you buy your cross track?

Just this past June.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, so it's a 2020, it's also a six-speed.

Yes, that's awesome, yeah, minus two.

So it's a, I don't know what the trim levels

are like in the States, but so this is a 2020 sport.

And I feel like it's the-

Do you have the 2.5 with a six-speed?

I have the 2.0 with a six-speed.

Okay.

It's, yeah, it's, yeah.

Yeah, cause like the sport here is an automatic,

but it's a 2.5.

I was about to hate you if you had a 2.5 six-speed.

No, no, I assure you my car is not fast.

Yeah, neither is mine.

Yeah, I assure you the cross track is not quick,

but it's, I feel like it's the perfect trim level

because it's a six-speed and it's a 2020.

So I don't have any of the eyesight stuff.

Me neither.

I have steering responsive headlights.

I have a sunroof.

What?

I have power seats.

And I have blind spot detection on the mirrors.

So I get like the little yellow flashing on the side.

Okay, yeah.

It was blinding.

Yours is a sport.

Mine, I got the base model.

So I don't have anything fancy in mine,

but I actually like that.

I don't need anything fancy.

I mean, I didn't really know,

like I've never really, I got the sunroof.

I bought it off.

So I bought the car off of a friend

who was holding it for another friend.

We were all in the Subaru society together.

And one of my friends moved to Germany

and he was the guy that owned the car.

And I think he looked into importing it,

but decided that it was gonna be too much hassle.

So it sat for probably eight or nine months

where my other friend just took it out periodically

to make sure it was still doing okay.

Yeah, yeah.

And then I bought it in June of this year after it.

So it's got a couple of years on it.

It still only has maybe 50,000 miles on it.

So it's still just getting good.

And he put some work into it.

He'd modified it a bit and then I've worked on it since.

But yeah, like I didn't think I was gonna need.

I didn't think I was gonna appreciate

like having blind spot detection

until I drove to Wicked Big Meet with it in June

and drove through that stretch

between Boston and Stafford Springs.

There's a couple of little suburbs there

where like it seems like everybody in the world

is all on the road at the same time.

Like where are y'all going?

What are you doing?

Like if I was a burglar, I would move there

because nobody is in the home.

That's where I would live.

I would go there.

It would be the best place to be.

So we know if some homes get robbed along there

then we know who did it.

Totally me, yeah, yeah, blame Canada.

But yeah, so it's been great.

I had it down there for Wicked Big Meet.

I had it parked up on the hill in the Overland area

with everybody else, which was kind of cool.

You feel woefully inadequate

because you think your build is cool

and then you park it next to everybody else

and you're like, oh, okay, this is where you can take this.

Okay, fine.

Yeah, I went up to Madison, Wisconsin

which is where Subaru Flatfest is.

And I drove up there in 2022

and I met up with I think like five other cross tracks

which is really cool

because we were like rolling down the road

and a bunch of cross tracks.

And I had, I didn't have any fog lights at the time

but I had ditch lights on my hood, a roof rack,

my tire on the roof, and then an awning

and then some decals.

And I pull up next to these other cross tracks

that have all kinds of crazy stuff on them.

Rooftop boxes, tire carriers, lift and fog lights.

And I mean, just like built up really, really nice.

And even though I had a few mods on mine,

I was like, my car looks like it's stock compared to these.

Yeah, I know, that's a weird feeling.

Yeah, so let's see.

So when I bought the car,

this car already had an Ironman America

suspension upgrade on it, the two inch kit.

It's not the Spexy, it's the two inch kit,

which is fine, like I mean, honestly,

I don't really, I don't need

12 inches of ground clearance on any car.

I don't drive on anything even remotely

needing that kind of thing.

I mean, when I did, when I was covering stage rally

in my regular Impressa, I had, I think,

not quite six inches of ground clearance

and I was fine with the skid plate.

There's only a couple of places in North America

where it got a little dicey with that car.

There was some of the transits

at New England Forest Rally are worse than the stages.

There's this stage called Aziz Co-host that has,

it's brutal.

Like they're all forest logging rows, right?

And like those guys don't care.

The rally organizers will go in and spray paint

all of the rocks with like an orange paint

so you can see them.

And like, I can still close my eyes at night

and just see all of the orange

going all the way down the road.

It's just these huge, these rocks sticking up,

but that's the only one that's been bad.

There was also this one side road at Rally Idaho,

I drove out to where there was like a crevice

in the middle of the road, like a, it washed out

where I'm pretty sure I could have stood under the car

and ended in a little change.

So we got a wheel on both sides

and we're kind of driving up this thing

going, let's hope we don't have to back out of this

if we get stuck up at the top, but it was fine.

So I don't need, I don't need a tunnel lift,

but it's on there and I'll use it.

Yeah, I mean, it's already there.

I mean, what are you gonna do?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

And I'm running a 15 inch wheel, an F44 off-road

with a K02 tire.

Yeah, I've got diodynamic stitch lights on the car,

a Rhino rack roof rack.

There's a trailer hitch in the back

that's not wired for power, but I can put a bike rack on it

or something like that if I need to.

And what else is done in the car?

Oh, I put skid plates on it, primitive racing skid plates

are right across the bottom of the car now,

which is nice, the differential is protected.

Do you have one for, do you have a mid one

for transmission?

No, not yet.

Okay.

I've done the front and the back.

Yeah, I don't think it's really needed for hours,

but I have one on mind just cause when I had Blake

from primitive racing, he gave me a full set of skid plates

as like his way to sponsor the podcast and my build,

which was really cool.

Yeah, but.

That's awesome.

They do really nice stuff.

Oh yeah.

Like especially in the front where you got the opening

that you can put on there for access to the Fomodo

or whatever it is you're gonna do for oil changes.

Yeah, that's what I've got.

Yeah, yeah.

Very handy.

Although there was one time I went to go change more oil

and there was a huge like clump of mud rock

right there in the hole.

And I was like, I was trying to, you know,

just go up in there to get ready to open up the valve

and there's this big giant.

Thankfully it wasn't, you know, a rock rock.

It was just like a clump of mud that it,

but yeah, that's a stuff can get up in there at times

but it's still nice to have that.

Yeah, I still haven't made the switch to Fomodo's yet.

Oh, it's nice.

I know, yeah, I know they work.

I know they work well and I have no reason to not trust them,

but I like the feeling of getting under the car

and like putting a 17 mil socket on a bolt

and kind of turning it and then being like, okay,

this isn't going anywhere.

You get that torque down with a new crush washer

and it feels pretty good.

Yeah.

So I still like that.

I still like that.

I like not making a big giant mess.

This is true.

This is also a good point.

Cause it's like every time you can't,

I don't think there's like a way to pull it off,

pull the, you know, the threaded nut off

without it getting on your hands and, you know,

sometimes splashing other places cause that's happened.

Yeah.

I mean, usually I hold the pan right up close to the car

and kind of reach and feeling around underneath it

going, well, where is it?

And right at that break point,

you're like, okay, there, go.

And then bloop and then you slowly lower the pan

and make sure the stream is staying in the middle of it

and sit it down on the ground.

But like, I guess the nice thing

about the suspension upgrade is I don't even have

to put the car on a lift or anything to get underneath it.

It's just, it's right there.

It's pretty good.

Yeah.

My, whenever I put my differential skid plate on

and my transmission skid plate

and where I park at my apartment complex,

I'm right next to a curb.

So I just drove one side of my car up onto the curb

and put them on that way.

Made it a lot easier.

That's a good idea.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, living in an apartment complex,

I didn't have any ramps or anything.

So I just drove it up on the curb

and just kind of slid from the front of the car down,

you know, to, or from the back

whenever I was doing the differential.

And, you know, it gives you a little bit extra clearance

because I don't have a lift on my cross-track.

I mean, it's still high enough

that I can get under there without having to lift it,

but everything is really, really close.

So putting it up on.

And you do proper stuff though.

You take your car into proper trails

and stuff too, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, you make it work.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

I mean, that's the thing with mine is like,

where I live, I don't need a lift

because there's nowhere that I'm going

that I'm gonna need that clearance.

The only place that I would have helped out

was when we would go to Bastrop,

but even then there were places

that I could, most of it I could get through.

And if there were some spots that a lift wouldn't help

just because it was, there was so rutted out

or, you know, jeeps and trucks

with big giant tires and stuff were going through

and you're not getting anything in there.

Yeah, yeah.

Exactly.

Yeah, I mean, I'm on forest roads most of the time

or gravel roads going to trail heads.

So, like, it's overkill having a lift.

It's just, I don't need it.

And I think that's the car.

I think that's.

Good.

Nice.

That's what I've done to you, yeah.

I'm keeping it mostly stock.

Like, I don't wanna make this a baby precious car

because that's what the WRX is.

Like, you know, so this is, I don't really care.

It's just a, it's a good daily

and it's a hell of a lot of fun in the snow and it's.

Oh, I'm sure.

In your profile, it says Panasonic Storyteller.

What does that mean?

Oh man, so this kind of, so a lot of my photography work,

I try to connect as many different threads

within it as possible.

So the idea is like, if you go on, you're doing one thing,

you can kind of create work for a variety of outlets, I guess.

It's one of the only ways you can survive

as a photographer, like living where I live

because it's, you know, art is often a luxury

and it's, you really have to appeal to a small percentage

of the people who can afford to buy your work and so on.

Yeah.

With Panasonic, I was planning a trip to Nepal.

I was, we were going to do a climbing expedition

to Annapurna, which is something I've always wanted to do

and I was looking for a small video camera

that I could take with me,

something that wasn't going to take up a ton of room

in a camera bag because my camera bag

was already getting kind of heavy.

Plus I had all of my camping and hiking

and climbing gear with me.

And I was connected to a very nice lady

named Tricia Gillings on Instagram

who worked for Panasonic Canada

and we were kind of talking back and forth.

And I asked her if there was a camera

that I could borrow for this trip.

And she very graciously offered me the loan of a GH5,

which is one of their micro four thirds camera.

It's a very small camera that is really portable,

excellent video quality.

And I jumped at the chance

and I took the camera to Nepal with me and it was great.

The video quality is fantastic.

I use it for still photos as well.

And everything was going absolutely fine

until I dropped a lens off of a cliff.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

Yeah, it fell 50 meters.

So about 160 feet kind of straight down.

It was, we were at about, I think 4,500 meters

in altitude.

So it said about 17,000 feet, something like that.

That's pretty high.

Like it's really, really cold in the morning.

And that's the thing about it.

Like, I mean, I don't really,

minus 10 is not so bad if you're Canadian.

Like Celsius, Celsius, minus 10 is like maybe 20 Fahrenheit.

Kind of not too bad.

But at altitude, your body's just not burning

any calories because there's less oxygen.

So that's the reason why you feel cold.

Your fingers get numb.

And I was changing lenses and I dropped this lens

and it hit the edge of my camera bag

and bounced over the edge of the cliff and fell down.

And one of the guys that I was climbing with

went down after it and I could still see where the lens was.

I could see the light blinking off the glass elements

and stuff at the bottom.

I kind of directed him to it and we thought it was done.

We thought it was just absolutely dead in the water.

And he brought it back up

and sure enough, the lens still worked.

It was amazing.

That's crazy.

I know, right?

So it quite, it hit, it was amazing.

And I had sent an email to Tricia saying,

I'm really sorry I dropped this.

If you want me to pay for this,

I'll gladly do it, no problem.

And she said, that's fine, that happens.

And that ended up becoming the article.

So I started writing, I wrote an article for Panasonic

about this experience.

And the original intention of the article

was for the article to talk about the video quality

and the performance of the camera,

but ended up being a piece about the durability

of the camera instead for exhibition, which is great.

And that just sparked this relationship

that has continued on where they will help me

with assignments, they will provide me with gear.

That is really cool.

Funding, yeah.

And I've borrowed cameras.

I had a G9 to do rally with for a while.

I was testing that, wrote a couple of articles about that,

used it for some work, had the new S1

at Rally Per Snash in 2020.

That was a partnership with the camera store

out in Calgary.

And it's just like, I will just do this.

I will just randomly walk into a place

and be like, this is what I do.

This is who I am.

This is what I would like to do with you.

Are you interested?

And the initial beginnings of these relationships

are always, let's just see where it goes.

Nobody spends any money.

We can just change hands with some gear

and provide some content and see if we like,

feel like the way it works.

And so far it's worked out.

Like Panasonic has been one of these companies

that has been really, really supportive of my work.

They've had me in for speaking engagements.

They've helped me with like,

just gas bills getting to events.

Like when we drove to Idaho in 2018,

I mean Panasonic was right there with money

to help me do that.

It's just, it's been great.

So I've been creating content for them

for a couple of years now.

And that's where that storyteller thing comes from.

Who would have known that dropping a lens

could lead to all that?

Exactly, right?

But first you have to ask for the camera.

And then you have to drop it.

Yeah.

So is that how you do things?

Is you just like get something that is,

you know, hey, can I borrow this?

And then you accidentally drop it?

Accidentally drop it?

Oh, well, this is very durable.

Let's do some more work together.

Judging by how much swearing there was,

I definitely accidentally dropped that camera

because I was pretty mad at myself for doing that.

There was a, one of my good friends

was standing next to me and he watched it drop.

And he just kind of leaned over the cliff

and made the sign of the cross like, oh man, that's done.

And I like, stop that.

You know, it's not funny.

You know, so anyway, yeah, it was a good thing.

But anyway, it worked out.

It worked out in the end.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I was looking at your, I think it's,

yeah, you have in your link tree on Instagram,

you have a video with you talking to somebody

from Subaru Canada.

Was it that first rally that you did up there?

Is that how that relationship with Subaru Canada started?

So the video, the video was a series,

a car commercial series that Subaru was doing.

And I want to say that was in,

it was the same time where I was building the garage.

So this would have been in 2022.

They were doing a thing called Welcome to Uncommon,

which was a series of videos

they did profiling Subaru customers.

And I discovered that mainly on Instagram,

they kind of put out a call

for people to submit their stories.

Like, have you taken a road trip?

Have you done anything cool in a Subaru?

Do you want to tell your story to us?

And I just sent them a DM.

We'd already followed each other on Instagram.

And they sent me a message back saying

that they were interested in hearing about my work with rally.

And I ended up getting on a Zoom call

with some people at the ad agency

that was doing the work.

And we started talking about rally originally

and why I liked rally

and what I was doing with my car and stuff.

And it eventually gravitated

towards the fact that I was building

these little dioramas too, right?

Oh yeah.

I started doing this in the pandemic

just out of boredom.

It was a thing that I began doing.

I just wanted to see if I could build them.

I'd seen pictures of people online

making these little scenes for their Hot Wheels cars.

And I'm like, what if I could build a diorama

that looked like a rally photograph I had taken?

And then I could photograph it the same way

I photograph the rally stage

and compare the two photos or something like that.

So I started looking through my library, my image library

and I found a couple that I wanted to build.

And I started really simple.

I just, I've got a room in my basement

where my weight's room, my fitness room.

And I kind of cleared out a corner

and I put a little plastic table in there with a lamp.

And I bought a couple of tools off Amazon

and just started building these little things.

And that took off.

It's weird how that became a thing

that people now engage with.

But Subaru liked it so much

that they made it the focus of the commercial.

So the commercial is just a clip of me

talking about rally and dioramas.

And then there's some clips of me driving my car around

and dinging it around on the mud a little bit,

which is kind of fun.

Yeah, it's a good time.

And for a while, I think it's been surpassed now,

but for a while it was their most highest viewed

episode of that series.

That's cool.

Yeah, it was a good time.

So that's where that came from.

And I remember, I think that was one of the things

that the SOA liked about my work

and one of the things that maybe got me

some of the Subifest's work as well,

because Mark mentioned he had seen it

when we first talked on.

Oh, that's cool.

It was years ago.

Yeah, yeah.

So he saw that before he even talked to you.

He did.

Yeah, which was kind of neat.

Yeah, it's amazing how some of these connections

kind of come together through ways

that you wouldn't have even thought about or expected.

Oh, exactly.

Exactly, you do not know.

You never know where something is gonna go.

I mean, we haven't gotten to the philosophy portion

of your podcast yet, Raf, but I mean, if I may.

There's a sociologist named Mark Granavetter,

who many years ago wrote a paper talking

about something called the Strength of Your Weak Ties.

And it's about how social networks work

and how people find opportunity

by looking kind of outside of their immediate circle.

Like the people who are in your everyday life,

the people that you talk to on a daily basis,

your friends and your family,

they're not really in a position

to offer you new opportunities

because they're doing the same thing you're doing.

They're people you see every single day.

The people who can really help you

are those people that you reach out to once in a while

over the course of like a year,

every couple of months to just check in.

And they're the people that are out in that outer circle

that are constantly seeing things

that you are not aware of.

And this is why it's so important

to just check in with people and to reach out

and to maintain those connections

and to create content simply for the fact

that you're creating something for the sake of creating it

and to see where it goes.

Not everything needs to have an immediate purpose.

You know, build stuff and see where it takes you.

And like, I've made a career out of this.

It's kind of weird about how I've been really lucky

to do this kind of thing.

And like the dioramas were one thing,

you know, just reaching out to people on social media

for exchanges of ideas and content

and pitching stuff to people.

Like so many emails and so many just,

I don't care if somebody says no,

as they might say yes, and you just gotta do it.

True, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's just, I mean, starting the podcast

which is something that I did

because I saw people on Instagram posting photos

and captions and I thought maybe they might be interested

in talking about it in a long form

because you can only do so much with a photo and a caption.

Exactly, exactly.

And here we are 218 episodes later.

That's unreal.

Yeah.

I mean, I remember you talking about

where your stats were earlier in the year

and you're up there, man.

Like this is a really,

it's really hard to gain traction

in the podcast world now

because there's so many people doing podcasts.

Yeah, and Subaru itself in general is so niche

and then the majority of my audience

is the off-road community

which is a smaller niche within a niche, you know, so.

Yeah.

But there's a lot of people out there

to hear stories from

and that's really what this is all about is,

I mean, that's what podcasts are in general,

is storytelling for the most part

unless you have like an educational one or something

but if it's more of an entertainment style podcast

it's really about storytelling

and we love these cars and we love talking about them

so why not talk about them on a podcast?

Exactly, exactly.

So speaking of cars,

like how would you say that owning your Subaru's

have changed your life?

Well,

I mean, you look at my identity is tied to the brand now.

So much of my work is directly related to Subaru

or activities that Subaru are involved in

and I just, I mean, I've even lived in my Subaru, right?

Like if I go back, yeah, I know, right?

If I go back far enough, yeah.

So when I bought my Forrester in 98

I was living in Halifax

and I remember just loving the car

and I was in 2003, I started working here in Fredericton

again, into Brunswick and moved up here

and went through a divorce in 2004

and the housing market here is kind of brutal.

It's a small town

and there's not a lot of available occupancy

so I moved into the car.

I lived in my Subaru for three months, my Forrester.

Wow.

For a while, the only thing I owned was a coffee pot.

Oh my gosh.

I know, three months, I parked,

there's a place called the Carlton Bolt Launch,

the Carlton Green, which is maybe a kilometer

from where I'm sitting right now.

And I would go to, I had a job,

I would go to work in the morning

and I would shower in the third floor administration office

and then go to my office on the fifth floor and work

and then go and back to my car

and I would go and I remember the first night,

I remember sitting in the car and I had a coffee

and I called this place called Fatty's Pizza,

which is still open.

And I'm like, can I order a large margarita pizza?

Because sure, where do you want it delivered?

Can you bring it to the Black Forest Earth

and work side green?

And he didn't even miss a beat.

He was like, sure, 30 minutes.

And 30 minutes later, he rolls up to my window

and I'm sitting there eating a pizza cone.

This is going to be all right.

This is going to be just fine.

And three months later, I found an apartment.

But yeah, man, it's just,

just got a little with it.

Yeah, did you have like a mat set up in the back

or something?

Eventually, eventually, yeah.

Were you sitting in the front seat for a while?

I would put the back down

and I would just lie across the back seats and stuff,

which was fine.

But I have slept in, like I slept in my Impressa,

my 2014 Impressa.

The first time I did Tall Pines.

Like I just, you do what you have to do

to get to a rally or whatever.

The first time I did Tall Pines,

it's in, it's in Bancroft, Ontario,

which is a 14 hour drive for me.

And the first time I did it,

I didn't really know anybody living in Ottawa that well.

So I drove to Arnpire,

which is just on the other side of Ottawa

in about three hours from Bancroft.

And I just crawled into a sleeping bag

and put the seat back on the passenger side

and just slept here the night.

Woke up with a foot of snow in the car.

It was just like, you're trapped in there

looking around and you're like,

okay, how am I going to get out of here?

Whether it's dumping snow on myself.

And then, you know,

yeah, you just do what you have to do.

Like that's going to be the next upgrade

for the cross track

because I want a rooftop tent to solve this problem.

Yeah, that'd be nice.

Yeah.

I think this is the perfect logistical solution

to lodging at rallies.

Like it's often hard to find a place.

It's true, like you're always,

it's always expensive

and you're never sure if you're going to find a place

because they're usually small towns

and they're often overbooked

because everybody from the rally

is looking for a place to stay.

So if I figure if I can sleep right in the stage,

roll into my spot the night before

and then get up early and then make a coffee,

maybe go for a run right there on the trail

and then come back to the car and shoot the event.

That's pretty much perfect.

So I think that's the plan.

So coming back to your question

about how Subaru has changed my life.

Yeah.

Like so much of my work is tied to the brand.

It's just weird.

I can't really imagine where I'd be

without the brand at the moment.

Like what I would be doing,

I probably wouldn't be a photographer

because I don't know if there'd be enough work

or interesting work without that involvement

from that company.

Will you imagine what would happen

if you were a state in science and math?

Well, I mean, I'd probably still be in Toronto working.

I know exactly who I would be.

I was working at this small industrial water treatment company

in Scarborough and I would be the guy

that I was working for by now, probably.

He would be retired and I would be doing his job.

And that's, I mean, it's fine.

I just decided that like I wanted something different

at the time.

I love chemistry.

I love chemistry and I love math and I'm glad I did it.

I wanted a more creative outlet for myself

and I made the switch.

I wasn't thinking to Subaru.

Yeah, this was a 90, when I switched

and moved back to Halifax from Toronto,

that was a 97 or so.

That's also the summer I got married.

And yeah, so then I bought my Subaru a year later.

Yeah.

Is there a difference between,

since you've been to all the SubiFest events

and everything for a few years now

and just being around that culture,

is there a difference between the Subaru culture

in the U.S. and the Subaru culture in Canada

or is it kind of the same?

It's just generally a lot bigger in the U.S., like for sure.

There's no way we could,

there's no way we could have an event with 10,000 people

or 9,000 people like Wicked Big Meet here in Canada.

Like it's just, it's at the scale.

Like people don't know.

Do you roll up on Wicked Big Meet

and then you see Vendor Rowe?

Yeah, I've never been.

Oh, okay, I get it, I get it.

Or you stand on top of the Subaru trailer

and you look at the parking lot

and it's just the sea of thousands of cars.

Yeah, I don't think.

And then they're just gone, right?

Stafford Springs is not that big.

There's like one good pizza place on the only cheap cash.

Stafford has a pizza.

I think a missed opportunity there

is doing a Wicked Big Meet pizza.

I think the MEHE, that's what they need to do.

Yeah, that'd be great.

But yeah, the culture is just, it's just bigger.

Rallies are bigger in the States.

You'll get entrance.

When I did rally Idaho in 2018,

I think there were like 80 entries.

Wow.

And yeah, it was a huge field.

Like in Canada, you're doing pretty good if you get 30.

You're doing pretty good if you get 30.

It's just the scale.

And it's just like you're closer to bigger cities.

Yeah, that makes sense.

And it's just more stuff, yeah, yeah.

So I guess it's safe to say

you'll probably always own a Subaru.

I think so, yeah.

Very interested in the concept cars

they released, they showed off in Japan

a couple of weeks ago.

Never knew, you know, you always second gas

not getting the STI, because I looked at both

when I bought my WRX.

But that performance B looks pretty nice.

Yeah.

Yeah, an STI hatchback with the FA24 in it,

probably with all of the cool differential stuff

and the six-speed STI transmission.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Giant wing, like put the biggest wing you can on it,

just huge.

Make it a Hot Wheels car.

If it's going to be the last STI you ever make,

make it the craziest one you've ever built.

You know?

You see?

Yeah, it'd be interesting to see what happens with it.

It's nice seeing that those images floating around.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's in the right color too, right?

I mean, it's only one color for these cars,

World Rally Blue.

That's got to be the only one that matters.

Well, for this last segment, this is

to get to know you a little bit better,

although we've gotten to know you pretty well.

But who is Jason, as in describe yourself?

Oh, man, Paradise Lost.

There's a song called Small Town Boy.

No, better not.

That's kind of bleak.

But I grew up, I live in Eastern Canada, New Brunswick.

I'm 52 years old.

Right there with you.

From New Bruns.

Yeah, it's a good age, you know?

I've got a brother.

I grew up really rural and went to school in Halifax

and studied at Towson University, did chemistry and math,

worked in a lead mine for a couple of years,

and then did the same thing in Toronto,

working for an industrial water treatment company

and moved back and switched to graphic design

and photography and have been just trying

to live my best life, man.

I travel as much as I can.

I've been to 96 countries now.

What?

Yeah, Portugal was 96 this past spring.

Portugal was 96, yeah.

Do you, are you able to take your partner with you

on some of those trips?

As much as I can.

Okay, that's good.

She came to Portugal with me.

Nice.

We've done a lot.

We've done Spain a couple of times, Scotland.

We went to Turkey together a bunch of years ago,

which was crazy.

We went to Turkey to kind of escape the snow

and when we got there, they got a crazy snow storm.

It was like a foot and a half of snow.

Nobody knew what to do with it.

People were actually using street signs.

They were using street signs to shovel snow.

Oh my gosh.

They'd be pulling them over to the ground.

It was just wild.

It was funny.

But it was a, photos were epic.

Crazy experience too.

Yeah, yeah.

And we're trying to plan something for the spring.

She wants to go to Africa.

Nice.

So we'll see.

Yeah, let's see what else.

Yeah, I mean, that's really, that's me.

I don't know.

Just a normal dude.

Yeah.

What is the favorite memory from your childhood?

Got to go with my pancake story again, man.

Yeah.

Just, it's that whole, like this time of year,

especially like there's a certain crispness

to the air right now outside, like in November,

late October, November when the leaves are changing

and just playing outside.

Like just being sent outside first thing in the morning

and told like, be gone, do not show up until dinner time.

And then just being left to my own devices in the country.

Yeah.

And hanging out with friends and riding bikes

and just coming in when you want and just having that.

Walking into the house and smelling whatever was on,

was going on for dinner like stews or something like that.

The whole house smelling stuff like that.

Giant wood stove in the basement.

Like that's just kind of, that was my life growing up.

And it's just definitely a memory.

Yeah.

And then pancakes.

Yeah.

Yeah, I haven't had anything to eat today.

So I think I'm actually going to go make some pancakes.

I was going to make some oatmeal,

but I'm going to do some pancakes,

top it with some banana slices,

have a side of blueberries and with some maple syrup.

Yeah, it's going to be good.

Yeah, I sense I'm standing.

So we know photography is what you do for a living,

but would you say that this is a dream job?

And if not, do you have something else

that would be like an ultimate dream job?

I am reminded by Rose that I am very lucky to do what I do.

And people who look at my life probably think

that I'm living kind of the dream.

Like I get to travel and create work

and put stuff in front of people that make people happy.

I tell stories for a living.

And yeah, you know, like it's,

you're always looking ahead and seeing

what else you'd like to do,

but it's important to pause and look behind

and see where you were and what you could be doing instead

and realize that you are very lucky.

And I am very lucky.

I get to teach and talk about my work to students

and mold young minds once in a while too.

And that's fantastic.

Now, having said all that,

of course there's always stuff that you would like to do.

Yeah.

Subaru would ever return to the WRC.

It would be really cool to be involved with that.

I don't think it'll happen.

I mean, we'll see.

There's just some rule changes

that would need to occur to make it worthwhile

from a marketing perspective and the costs, of course.

Yeah.

It would be awesome to be,

like I know like Lance Smith is doing his rally forward thing

to rally taken off in the area.

It'd be awesome to be involved in that in some way.

Dream job, working for STI would be cool,

like covering the race scene that they do,

like the Nuremberg 24 hours,

the GT Cup series for the BRZ and the WRX that they do.

That whole thing, that'd be amazing.

But yeah, I'm really stoked to do what I do for a living.

Yeah.

Sounds good.

Yeah.

So I know you did these dioramas and stuff,

but what other hobbies do you have?

My other big one, I guess, is I'm a cyclist

and I train a lot.

I try to keep myself very active.

I raced pro in the 90s for a period of time.

Very nice.

Yeah.

I was a road cyclist for a couple of years

and did that both in Canada and the United States

and then kind of retired from that

when work got really, really busy

and I started to get old and slow, which happens.

But I still ride six days a week.

Yeah, I run, whenever I can't ride, I run.

So I bring my running gear to all the Subifest events

and I run usually in the morning or the evening

after the events and lift weights.

And I'm working on my NSCA CSCS certification,

my strength certification so I can maybe coach

a little bit.

Very nice.

Maybe gonna do that over the winter

once the travel season winds down a bit.

Yeah.

What is something that makes you want to get

out of bed every day?

Bravenous hunger.

Both figuratively and literally.

Like I just, I go to bed thinking about breakfast.

I also do, I do.

I have a huge big bucket of oatmeal every morning

where I put in just all kinds of stuff.

Peanut butter and bananas and fresh fruit and stuff

and I have a huge coffee with it.

That's every morning and I gets me going

and then also like the figurative stuff.

Like I love getting out of bed

to work on interesting projects.

Yeah.

Having a plan to just kind of create content

or help somebody is the,

that's a big reason for getting out of bed in the morning.

Yeah, that's good.

But it's something that makes you want to stay in bed.

On, yeah, you know, so on weekends,

it's rare that I give myself a rest day

but when I do take a rest day and it's on a weekend,

just staying in bed and reading books

and drinking coffee with Bo's.

We just sit with our books

and we have two cats, Rusty and Pepperoni,

that curl up with us.

Those are good names.

Yeah, I know.

Yeah, she's, we've got a, she's an orange cat

and she's all black and Rusty and Pepperoni

but they curl up with us

and we just sit and drink coffee and read books.

She's a librarian, Mike.

Oh, okay, nice.

Yeah, so there's always books floating through the house.

So that's a great way to stay in bed.

Bonus points if there's a snowstorm outside.

Yeah.

You don't have to be out in it, you know?

That's just, that's very cozy.

Yeah, sounds like it.

What is something that scares you?

Losing, like I guess,

eventually losing my sight would suck

or not being able to move.

Like just losing my ability to be active, you know?

Like I'm healthy, knock wood

and I just, to not be able to train

or to ride my bike or to travel

or to be a creative would kind of suck.

That would not be a good thing.

But I mean, you would no control over any of that.

You know, if it happens, it happens

and you just got to roll with it.

So trying to let it, yeah.

What is something that really excites you?

Engaging with people

and helping somebody pursue a creative opportunity.

If I can offer any kind of help or insight to anybody

because you never know somebody might,

there might be just a small hurdle

that's keeping somebody from doing something.

And if you give them that little push,

that little word of encouragement or some advice

that kind of sends them over that little bump

and keeps them going, that's phenomenal.

Yeah.

That kind of thing excites me.

Yeah, it's always fun helping somebody else

in whatever it is, you know?

I mean, it could be something as simple as just,

you know, moving something that they can't move

or you know, just whatever it might be.

There's always, and there's always ways

that you can help people in little areas.

But yeah, it's, there's just

because sometimes people need some help

to accomplish something.

And if you can offer some help to get them,

like you said, over that little hurdle

and then to see them continue on

and start becoming successful

and start to enjoy what they're doing

and then come back around and say like,

oh my gosh, thank you so much, you know.

Yeah.

It's been, it's great.

So good.

Yeah.

So good.

Yeah, it's a great feeling.

What would be your best bit of advice

to give to someone about anything?

Oh, best bit of advice.

You've asked this question a bunch of times

and you always get good answers.

So far, my favorite one was the guy

that was on a talk to book, Grip Strength.

But I was gonna, I'm probably gonna go

with really pay attention

but where your time is being spent, right?

We all act like we have all the time

in the world when in fact we don't.

Nobody knows how much time we have.

Could be five minutes, could be 50 years.

And you really have to be like,

if you wanna waste your time, waste your time

but be conscious of the fact

that you are wasting time.

Like be aware of where it's going

because it is your most precious commodity.

And that's one of the reasons why I,

like social media is so insidious, right?

Because they just take it.

You spend time scrolling on your phone

and all of a sudden an hour has gone by and you're like,

what happened?

But like just be careful about where you put your time

and spend it on worthwhile pursuits.

Things that are honorable and virtuous

and that help you be better just generally.

That's my advice, thanks.

That's good advice, yeah.

I mean, so I'm currently unemployed.

So I am trying to make the most of my time

but I have also just laid around and watch TV occasionally.

And I realize that I'm,

I could be doing something else right now, I could be

but it's usually later at night.

It's not like during the day where I'm like,

oh, I'm just gonna sit around and do nothing

and watch TV for four hours.

It's usually in the evenings when I'm like,

okay, I've gotten some stuff done today.

I think I'm just gonna let myself relax

and not do anything for a while.

And that's completely fine, I think.

Like as long as you're aware,

you're doing it and you're like, okay,

I have accomplished something today.

Put the work in

and now I'm gonna have a little bit of a reward.

I think like to carry on with that point.

There was, do you know who Sebastian Younger is?

I've heard of him.

Okay, he's a, he's an author

and a documentary filmmaker, photographer

who among other things wrote like the book

that inspired the movie, The Perfect Storm

with George Clooney way back in the day.

And then he was also in the Corengal Valley

with another photographer named Tim Heatherington.

They spent a year there

and that story ended up becoming the movie Restrepo.

But he wrote a book called Tribe

and it deals primarily with-

I've heard of that too.

Yeah, the reintegration of people

who are coming back from the military

and how important it is to make them feel useful.

Everybody needs to feel useful to be happy.

And I think those two things are connected.

As long as you're, if you feel useful

and you're contributing to society in some meaningful way,

I think that's the meaning of life

and happiness right there.

It's just so important.

So anyway, that's kind of an overlapping thing.

As long as you feel useful and happy

and you know where your time is going

and you're working on things that are important to you.

It needs to be fulfilling too.

And not where you're just, yeah, that I could get into.

Yeah, I know.

This came up on Reddit.

There was a Reddit thread in a subreddit that I'm in

where somebody was asking and they're like,

okay, so in a perfect scenario,

tell us what you're doing now

and what you would rather be doing instead

or what your dream job is.

And it was supposed to be this very happy kind of whimsical

thread that turned into this spiraling depression

of suck for a lot of people because

so many people are just stuck in things

that they don't want to do

and have dreams of doing other things.

And my comment was always like,

why aren't you at least looking into it?

Like the sense of accomplishment you get

from just putting just that small amount of effort

into pushing that ball further down the field

to use a sports analogy.

Even if it's just a little ways, right?

Just looking to see what the possibilities are.

It's just so immense.

And it does such wonderful things

for your sense of well-being in your mental state.

Yeah.

Yeah, all right.

Well, thank you for taking the time.

And yeah, you're welcome.

It was great.

I mean, I've seen you for the past three years

at Subifest, Texas.

So this has been in the making for quite a while.

I know.

It's just, I'm so glad we finally had the time

to sit down and have a chat.

This has been awesome, so fulfilling

and rewarding for me.

Well, good.

A good way to spend time.

Absolutely, yeah.

As we were just talking about.

Exactly, yeah.

Well, yeah, enjoy the rest of your day

and enjoy the rest of your week.

And I wish you much success

in your pursuits with your photography

and especially with Subaru.

Thank you, man.

You're welcome.

I hope to see you down the line again.

And if you ever want to go to a rally,

let me know.

I will drive to Texas.

All right.

Awesome, thank you.

Okay, cool.

Thank you.

All right, bye.

Hello, everybody.

Thanks again so much for tuning in

to another episode of the Subin New Podcast

and the last episode of 2025.

Also, thank you so much, Jason,

for taking the time to record with me

and share your story about photography,

storytelling through photography

and your Subarus, of course.

I hope you all have a wonderful Christmas

this week and I hope everybody has just great time

and enjoys it safely with friends and family.

Thanks again so much for five wonderful years

and I look forward to more time with people

and hopefully going out to more events in 2026.

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