S2 E14: Actor Joseph Gatt (Thor, Dumbo, Game of Thrones, and more)

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but I've been sitting on it. It's been in the garage sealed

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She made my grandson a mask. Cute little mask made my

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a mask, my son, my daughter, and my grandson.

Don't live with us. It's just me.

My wife and my mother-in-law. Didn't make me a mask him, a

wife, two masks, and I complained about it.

Maybe she was saving the best for last.

But I'm kind of looking around like where the fuck is my mask.

But now I have one then I had her so like a little one I do patch on it. We're looks official, although

it's Jake is fucked. Still I go out without it

sometimes but I feel very irresponsible.

It's at the fabric store is a Jo-Ann.

Fabrics, picking up some Burlap to finish some acoustic treatment because I've rearranged my bedroom, well, the office. So right now I'm sitting like 8

feet away from where I used to sit, but I'm trying to make this acoustically. Sound don't want to waste too

much more of your time. Like I said earlier, we're going

to have Joseph cat coming, right up.

So mr. Gat, he's been in 59 movies and

their range in between, you know, big budget titles, multiple TV series. He's been in 2019, s Dumbo.

One of the main characters, actually Star Trek Into Darkness, he paid a frost Giant and 4, 11, some of you might know him from Game of Thrones, he played thin Ward.

So if in Ward was a member of the thin, the cannibals, a super crazy ones that were wilder than the wildlings.

He's the one that's kind of like brand start.

So brand had the Raven and he could see through the Raven thin Warg, which was Joseph, gasps character had the ow.

Ow. So we could take over and see

through the owls eyes. So he had a decent role for a

few episodes. Done a lot of video game work,

or don't Skyrim for the last five years.

He's been a recurring character in the video.

No game, God of War, Star Wars the Old Republic been in TV shows ranging from ZNation Banshee, True.

Detective even Stanley's lucky man.

And we talked for quite a while and share some stories about his life. He does a lot of work with kids

with alopecia people that'll Patriot cause he has alopecia, which is a rare, a rare condition, where you lose all your hair. So coming up, just forget How's

the reception reception good? Yeah you sound good?

Okay good. You sound pretty good.

I like this over voice over IP because sometimes voice over IP you get kind of those weird little robotic sounds.

Yeah. Which I've heard a lot.

I've actually heard a lot of those on the professional shows that I listen to. So I feel a little better and

I'm like Hey we're not all that Studios.

Shit they're not even that good. Oh no, absolutely, I've seen a

ton of like, you know, pro quo Quote, professional podcasts and they all have really terrible like broadcast quality and calling audio quality and stuff. And I'm like, what did that

person say, what was that? Yeah, I mean it happens all the

time, it is what it is, you know, and the good ones work around it. They bail really quite they you

know though interrupt them to say I'm sorry or your phone line is terrible. Will try to get you back on

later or something like that, you know?

But it's just when they just keep letting him go ready to get rolling. All right, let's go.

They you just yawn. It sounded like you just yawned.

It was a little Ian. Yeah, it's bit already been a

long day, it's kind of crazy. And I'm just about, I just like

chilled out. Now, I'm laying back on the bed.

I plug the phone in. And I'm expecting a couple of

cats to join me at some point for the podcast.

So you may hear some meowing at some point or purring.

Okay, so that's not you, it's the, it's the pets, okay?

I'm not going to say one way or the other if it's raining cats.

But yeah, All right, so we're joined by mr.

Joseph, Gat famous actor, really cool.

Car guy, really good person. Even better person who has a

really awesome history. We're going to kind of Step

through some of the stuff and hopefully he'll entertain some of these crazy questions. I'm going to ask him.

So I did a lot of. I mean of course I familiar with

you. I know you have talked to you on

the phone a couple times and actually the last time we talked was 45 minutes over nothing. The first time we talked was 45

minutes over nothing. I was actually sitting in the

Walmart parking lot for 25 minutes so we Wrap up the call because I didn't wanna interrupt you because we're having a good conversation about cars and douchebags and putting bags on Ferraris and stuff but welcome to the show.

Thank you, good, to be here. Wait we didn't talk about

nothing that time didn't have a long conversation about about your car and about turning it into a model?

Yeah, we did. I told the story, I haven't told

it too much because I don't want to bore the people who listen to this podcast but in words, I think your response to that would be fuck'em, but yeah. Yeah, I had some ideas about the

guy who copied my car over in China, or Japan or somewhere.

And I could have had a cease and desist order from Harmony gold, which nobody thought I had any sort of power to do anything, but it wasn't me that had the power, but I had the relationship to have it taken care of, but you reached out and said, hey, give me a call and we'll talk about it.

And, you know, I was kind of thinking, well, maybe I should put my name on it and you said exactly what I was thinking and more. And so, yeah, I kind of

attribute Motivation by you to say just do If they do it, they do it. And if they don't then screw it.

Yeah. Because I kind of feel as

learned from experience, both with myself and situations with other friends that in those kinds of situations unless you're someone with a lot of time and money on your hands, you're never going to win a legal battle because a lot of the time these people don't really care, and we'll just go ahead and do what they're going to do anyway because they're in another. Tree.

You cannot get to them whatever they're just going to do it.

So my feeling is try and work with them and I know that you had mentioned in the past about creating some kind of souvenir or toy of or miniature of your car and I'm like, wow this is a great this is a great opportunity lets you know, maybe he should just reach out to them and say look if you're going to do my car let me help you make it more accurate.

And just put my name on it and blah blah blah and you know, like you said, they could have turned around and said and said, you know, Fu we're just going to do it anyway.

We're going to do it, we want to do, but luckily, they didn't they turn around and they were very amenable and everybody's happy, everybody got what they wanted.

Yeah, and all kudos to you for having the open mindset to, to think about that and not just sit there.

And think these people are robbing They're stealing money from me. They're stealing my ideas, which

a lot of people would do they would dig their heels in and be very stubborn about it. But you had the open-mindedness

you like, you know, what have I got to lose?

Let me reach out to these people.

Yeah, that was kind of the overwhelming response, you know on Facebook what you know appears and stranger just like screw that, man. They're stealing money from you.

And you're right. We're going to slow people like

us. We kind of think alike in a

sense, it's like well hold on, hold on let's see what we can turn this into you know we don't have to kill this now.

Because it's not about me as much as I know.

There's some super fans out there of the car and maybe this is an opportunity to for everybody to win.

Like you were just saying. Yeah I mean it's you created

such an individual piece with your car and already.

I mean, the reason you did it is because you're a fan of the original work in the first place.

Yep. And you know, you and millions

of other people and you turned your NSX into this and so you I just have to captive audiences who could possibly want to purchase that model? You know, you've got the captive

audience of the original machine of the original product.

And it's a very, I mean, even I know the actual thing I kind of couldn't remember the name of it, but I know like as soon as I saw your car, I thought that's based on that kind of manga, character that manga machine and I looked it up and it was there and it was easy to fight. Yeah, so, you know, so you're

selling it to a captive audience Two captive audiences.

You got the car people and then you got the, the, the manga fans and stuff and it's just, it worked out great.

I mean, I don't know how many were sold in the end, but I just think it was really great that you went along with it and you just and you did that very many people out there who have got models of their cars out going out.

And I don't just mean, generic models of their generic are right, right? The specific models of this

specific car. This is unless it's a movie.

Car or something that just doesn't happen and it's got your name on it. I mean it's incredible.

You know kudos to you for that. Thank you, thank you.

So enough about me. Let's talk a little bit about

you just a little bit. Yeah you better hope you're

ready for this because you know I watched a lot of interviews.

I've read some shit online. Just as a some shipping, the

appropriate of work, right? Yeah.

Right. You started off in musical

theater singer and Dancer. Jesus Christ Superstar in

Saigon. That like, and how old were you,

you know, doing musical theater. Was the most fun ever?

I absolutely loved the time I spend doing musical theater, and I still miss it to this day. It's the most amazing

camaraderie that you have in a company in a cast.

I was just about to say this, but it must have been the camaraderie. Yeah, that, that was one of the

best things about it and also, there's something and this is a thing. That Mercy, my partner and I

talk About all the time. There were different kinds of

actors. And I know that sounds like a

very obvious statement, but there are different kinds of actors in the sense that there are access that enjoy doing live theater. And there are some that just do

not and don't care for it and don't ever want to do it and the thing that an active who enjoys life theater gets is impossible to explain and fathom to another actor who isn't interested in doing it. It's a very, very strange thing.

It's like trying to explain a love of cars to someone who doesn't care less about cars. It's one of those things where

if you have to explain it, it means that the person you're explaining it to is never going to get it because it's not explainable. There's a certain thing that's

inside you and it's something that's historical as well.

Like, it's something that you build, as you grow up through various memories and various experiences, that makes you passionate about something. And with me, With musical

theater will with doing live theater in general, because I'm British and the general stereotype is true that most British actors grow up, learning in theater.

You know, a lot of actors out here, don't understand theater, they don't do theater. They don't care for it.

It's all about film and television.

That's what people want to do. That's what people want to do.

To get famous and Rich and blah, blah, blah.

And all those things that most of them will never be. but with

theater, there's a certain Ruinous and a certain energy that can not be matched or at least you cannot get the same thing. There is nothing like standing

in front of a live audience and doing something where if it goes wrong. Nobody can say.

Okay. Okay, cut, let's just try it

again. Reset the cameras.

Okay, let's do it again. There is none of that.

You're if you're wrong, you're wrong on stage.

You're vulnerable. It's the most vulnerable.

You never be as an actor because if you get it wrong you have to then find a way of fixing it live on stage, there's no cutting, there's no retakes. It's just you maybe your fellow

actors if you're not on stage by yourself and the audience whether it be 99 people or 2,000 people or more and you know I've had all of those scary moments as an actor where I forgot my lines Where you know, I've not been in the right place at the right time where assets have crashed and broken around me where we've been evacuated because of a bomb scares or fires in the middle of performances, all of that stuff happens in your inaccurate. You have to deal with that.

It's the craziest thing, it's raw and its life and its and then at the end of all of that, you get to go on stage and have your immediate reaction from the audience when they give you your applause. And you can thank them

immediately and there's just something magical about that whole process and immediacy. There's no waiting until the

thing has to until the premiere of the movie or the previews come out or, you know, that the series runs or whatever it is, it's right there and then and if you get it right you know right there and then and if you get it wrong you know, right there and then so a lot of actors. Sometimes I'll go back to

theater in between their big rolls.

Let me have you have you ever gone back since then?

I have only been back once because the problem with Los Angeles living in l.a. is the theater here.

Is pretty much terrible in. The only good theater is in a

couple of the big main theaters, like the Kirk Douglas, all the elements, and downtown and couple of major theaters.

But the big problem with those is they actually get names into play the major roles, you know. So it's Very difficult to book,

roles in those performances in those Productions.

But, and I simply as a person who pays rent as my own food and all of the usual stuff that adults do.

I cannot afford to make myself unavailable for acting work, as in film, and television acting looking to commit to doing a small theater production in LA. Because the thing is, once you

commit to a theater production, you're committed to that thing.

For these six eight ten, twelve weeks that you're doing it and in that whole period of time, you're lucky.

If you're only $800 for the week, right?

Max. There's a you know, and it's a

big money difference, you something like and again, $800 for the week is a minimum rate for the highest tier of theater, that's the minimum rate and most people earn that doing the highest tier of theater that you can do a lot of people like in these Big, massive shows that you see at the Pantages and stuff. There are around a thousand

dollars a week doing these massive shows.

And it's just not enough to live on.

You know what you're talking about, it a town where rents can be even moderate rents, can be around three thousand dollars a month in this town. And so to commit, unless you

have a large savings account and you are lucky enough to be one of those real major, a lists where you've just gone from earning a million dollars in this movie.

You know, you have another movie coming up with a penny or million and a half or two million dollars and you know, you have a break for three or four months, then Give it up, okay, right. I'm going to go into the theater

production in that little break because it's not taking you away, that's the other problem as well.

See, while you're doing a theater production, it means that you're not available to do acting and tell, you know, television and film work because you cannot then just bail on the theater production because it's not like they can just get someone else in to do it right. When you started, you started

rehearsing. You're stuck.

You're in a production. You owe it to the production to

the other actors. Because if you can't be there,

none of them have a job. They cannot do what they need to

do. So there are all of those

reasons that I haven't done theater.

Since I've been out here, except this one production, which I did in Canton Missouri, at a university out there.

And I was invited out there by a friend of mine, his family run, the theater Department, basically, at the Culver Stockton University in Missouri. And every year they have their

big final production with their students.

They try and invite an established actor from the east or west coast to go out there and be part of the production and they invited me to go out there and play Stanley.

And in the Streetcar Named Desire and I did it.

And it was the most incredible experience.

That's our thing. It was I it was it was a truly

amazing experience. I loved it.

Those kids for a start or incredible.

It was incredibly challenging very stressful, but hugely rewarding. It's one of the my favorite, the

favorite things I've done in the last 15 years since moving to the states, it was incredible. But that is the only time I've

had a chance to actually fulfill that theater bug.

I've tried to do more theater, like, I've tried to audition for, you know, musical theater Productions that have been done internally. Like, you know, how they've been

producing these live music. You to perform these these these

one-offs they did Jesus Christ Superstar and he did a couple of others. I tried being involved in those

but unfortunately they're just they were just looking for major names refill, the top slot in those and it was kind of funny because, you know, like I wanted to read for Judas.

I wanted to play Judas then the production and you know, I had done that in London's West End and I figured, why wouldn't they want something whodunit in London to my standard is now established? Active here in the States.

Now, instead, they went for that pop singer.

I was kind of disappointed. Okay.

But anyway, it is what it is. It's like you do your audition

for anything on television, nothing to do with mirror.

It's not a meritocracy, our industry.

It's all about social climbing, social media.

It's all about what your last job was how big your name, you are, blah, blah, blah, all the all the stuff that all the Hollywood stuff. Ola Hollywood stuff.

Exactly. Exactly and it's you know, I

complain about that but I shouldn't because it's not like it's a secret and it never has been a secret.

You know, you step into an industry where you know exactly what you're getting into and then you complain about those things that you were going to be there.

It's kind of down. It just is what it is.

It's like complaining when you get into a car that it's going to have wheels on it and it will ya you know their car has will turn it. I know.

But why does it have to have wheels?

Right? Because it does because it's a

car. It's kind of like that, you

know. Well, I guess it's like my job

when I have one, because I've been offered three weeks, I can complain about the travel, but that's what I signed up to do, is travel back and forth every week on a plane and live in a hotel. So then other people who do what

I do complain about. I'm just looking, I'm like, you

can just go home and work normal or you can hate a little bit more and put up with this is what we do.

This is what we signed up for. Yeah, it kind of reminds me of

all the people that complain about living in California and I'll wait a minute, you do realize or 49 other states, and you can move to any one of those.

And most of the people are complaining about living in California, are transferred to come to California and then they complain about living in California for one reason or another without getting into politics, right then.

And I'm just like, I've said to their faces.

I said to various people who come here in like damn, Commie for Nia and blah blah blah. And I mean you do realize you

don't have to live here. It's like I had that situation

in London. Once I was working in London and

a friend of mine was South African.

Well friend, an acquaintance, he was from South Africa and it was at a point where there's a massive influx of South Africans coming to London. And this guy whose name I won't

mention to save him. Embarrassment, just always

complain about how much he hated London and Place talked about how he, you know, just wants to come here and take his money and take it back home to South Africa, to his family and stuff and blah, blah is always complaining.

And then one time we were at this bar with a bunch of people and I just stopped and I said, why don't you just shut the fuck up? Go back to fucking South Africa.

If you hate it here so much, I'll go to some other country because we don't appreciate you coming here.

And we're from there, you're born their King.

The school there. You'll freaking money back to

South Africa. I'm like do that if you want to

but at least pretend you like being here, right?

Just pretend that you like being here before you you know just bitch and complain constantly about.

It's like why would you do that? Go to Germany.

Go to France, go to Spain. This is the EU.

If you can come to the UK, you can go to any one of those countries go. Yeah.

Because I tell you what, if you go to Spain or France or Germany, you complain, as much as you do here, they will kick Your ass handshake. Go the fuck back home then, you

know, I mean, I'm all for international travel.

I'm all for open borders, and people moving around.

This is, we live in our International world is a global Community. I kind of love that.

But what I don't like, are people who go to other countries and exploit just to take home. Yeah, just to take back its, and

there's too much of that going on right now.

There is there is too much of Of people going to other countries and trying to turn those countries into where they came from. For me.

The beauty is that all the cultures and countries are different and you go to those other countries to experience different cultures, different languages, different ethnicities, different Traditions, all of those things, you know, it's like you get, that's what the international.

That's what the global communities all about.

It's not You know, we're not living in the Dark Ages, where it's about going to another country and try to turn that country into where you've come from and then getting upset with other people from that country trying to live by the country's laws and standards and regulations and traditions.

And then you know you've come from another country and you don't like that and you know well what the fuck who are you to tell me how to live in my country?

Yeah it's you know it's that weird things like again and I have to stress this because Very touchy subject for a lot of people and it has to be. This isn't about xenophobia.

This isn't about disliking people from other countries.

Absolutely not. This is about everyone

appreciating the differences in other cultures.

Yeah, I agree. It's like for example when I

came to America January 2005, I didn't come to America thinking.

I hope America is exactly like UND.

I came to America because America is America and not England. And when I stepped off that

plane for the first time I fell at home, any other thing was, I know I'm so many British people who are living here in America and they still sound like they just got off the boat, their accents haven't changed at all, and that's fine.

I'm not saying people need to change their languages or their accents. But one of the first things I

did was I went in. I remember, I went into a

7-Eleven, I remember this very, very clearly a firstly.

I was surprised because the guy behind the counter was an Indian guy, Southeast Asian, you know? Indian great, right.

I was like, oh, this feels like just being back home from school and then I went to the refrigerator and couldn't find the waters. And so I go to the guy and if I

said, do you have any War? Well, I kinda looked at me,

strangely water. I like what you do you have any

bottles of water and he kind of looks at me strangely so I, you know, just Shrugged his soldiers, like shoulders.

Like I was literally speaking second, a different language and I kind of clicked in my head is like do you have any water?

Go ahead, our water and he said it in his acting really weird.

My bad, he wasn't having he didn't have an American accent.

Yeah, he was Indian speaking of oh what a yes.

Of course it in the backyard. It was the weirdest thing and

right then I realized that there are two ways to move to another country. One is to move to another

country, bringing everything with you that you've ever known and learn and the traditions in the way you and your Speech patterns in the way you pronounce words and all of that stuff and to try and expect other people to accommodate you, you'll put you are moving to another country and you want everyone in that country to accommodate you.

Number two, can move to that country.

And try and fit in try and assimilate yourself into that culture into the way they speak into their Traditions into the way they do things, I'm moving to America so I'm going to drive on the right-hand side of the road.

Because that's what everyone else here does.

Because that would be the easiest option as well.

See, I could come to America. And I could really, I could

continue talking, like I just got off the boat liked all night. It's like a fucking London,

what? I kind of thing and nobody, but

our fight clue what I was talking about.

I could get in my car and be really fucking confused that the steering wheel wasn't on the right side and I could get on the road driving completely wrong side of the road and I could be like, you know, fuck. Everyone.

I'm driving on the right side of the road.

I'm a fucking Brit America. Wouldn't be if it if it weren't

for the British we came here first everyone should drive the way I drive. You know I could have done that

and then that would have made my life of really difficult over here. So here's what's going to happen

then or here's what I would like to happen.

We do the Q&A later on, I want that accent.

We're talking to Joseph at actor.

Car Guy, good guy, let's ask you a little bit more about your acting before. We move on to some other stuff.

Yeah, so in your eyes what was your first Big Break?

Where you look in the mirror and said, I've made it.

What was your first Big Break where you just had a big grin on your face? Honestly I never thought.

Okay, here's the thing, I don't think I've had my big break in the traditional sense of the word yet.

I've been very fortunate in that, through my hard work through my diligence through my consistent push through my persistence. All of that stuff that I've

worked. And I've worked since at least

since moving to America at least in the last 10 years semi consistently much more consistently than a huge percentage of actors out there in the thing about the UK is that even booking a job in theater.

It's great and you're I could side and you have a great time but you never, there's no such thing as making it.

Yeah. Because theater pay so little

you're still living paycheck to paycheck.

It's not like you ever get a big checking out.

Wow, this is what being a Stars about it just doesn't happen.

It's just another night of five job just like doing any other nine to five job while you're living paycheck-to-paycheck.

The only differences. We do it singing songs on a

stage for an audience that is literally the only difference.

What? How about I ask?

Let me let me bring him in a different way because it's an excellent response. It's an honest response.

What was the time where You got a roll and you were like, I can't believe this is happening. That's an easy one to answer.

Okay? And it's kind of partially

twofold. Firstly was a very first Studio

picture here in 2005, when I worked in a movie called pulse, which start a whole bunch of people who are really famous right now. Like Kristen Bell, Ian

Somerhalder, and various other people and hanging out with Kristen Bell. You know, just hanging out with

her and Ian. Going to the movie theater with

them for me was just like, wow, you know, and then hanging out with Jean-Claude Van Damme at the studio because he was shooting a movie. At the same time, it was one of

the weirdest things. And I'm sitting there going, oh,

okay. This is really cool, right?

But when it really hit me was working on Thor, You know, booking the job was great but the moment I remember it's two weeks into the shoe. I'm standing at the back of the

set at Manhattan Beach Studios. I mean my full full makeup and I

suddenly hear this voice psych Jojo I just got someone I want to introduce you to. It's it's Kenneth Branagh who's

coming up to me. Now you got to understand

Kenneth. Branagh is already a major star

to me because as an English So we've grown up with Kenneth Branagh for years and years and years.

He's fucking massive household. Name in the UK, he is, you know,

a huge deal. So the fact that I'm looking

with him, is already amazing, right?

And so, he comes up so JoJo, he puts his hand on my shoulder, and he's not at all, guys, quite someone put his hand up on the show, Just Cause I just got someone to.

I wanna introduce you to Tony. This is Joe, Joe, this is tongue

and I'm just standing there. And they you got to understand.

I was kind of like, not really knowing what was going on as Larry Holman and there's sort of like shorter older guy was in front of me, in a three-piece, Tweed suit and a hat and he looks up at me and I looked down at him and he and I'm just like, oh my God, it's Anthony Hopkins. I was totally and utterly

freaked. I literally look down at the sky

and say, holy shit. Mr. Hopkins.

Oh my God, is that he totally just stopped me.

He grabbed my hands and I'm wearing his first rank loves big latex gloves because my hands. He takes my hands in his hands.

He said, oh no, dear fellow, it's Tony, it's Tony.

And I looked at him as a Tony it's such a pleasure to meet you. He's an amazing amazing pleasure

to meet you just amazing pleasure to meet.

You isn't this wonderful? Isn't this incredible taught me?

So lucky to be here Amazing go out and I looked at him I was like, okay good. That's right.

This is cool. Yeah and then we actually

cultivated quite a nice friendship throughout the rest of the production because you know, we would talk a lot about being Brits moving to America and how it's affected us.

He told me a lot of very private things about his life and we drank tea together between Aches and stuff.

And we would, you know, I'd make tea for him and vice versa and we would just stand there and just drink tea and talk and stuff and he was just lovely as lovely as guy.

And what was really funny was, I came up to him at one of the first things I said in on second conversation.

Second meaning, which was later that day.

I said, I just have to tell you, you know, telling you that one of my favorite movies of yours is one, that probably no one else has ever seen. And he looked at me and smiled

and said I think I know which one you're going to see said it's the fastest Indian anyway. Oh my God, that's one of my

favorite movies as well. So I'm so glad that you love

that movie and I told him that my girlfriend Mercy my partner had not seen the movie said, I want you to make sure she sees the movie. I don't want you to tell me what

she thought of the movie and it was funny.

It's just like so I went home and told Marissa this.

So we watched a movie together. She loved the movie.

I went back and told him it. Will he came in?

I was in makeup and getting makeup done and he came in and he's like, so what did Mercy think of the movie, did she like the movie? Did you know?

Tony she absolutely loved the movie.

She wants to know, what your next recommendation is.

You know, Global I said he recommended another watch that.

So there was this weird kind of friendship that happened between mercy and Tony as well, even though they had never met.

Well, which is a very, very sweet.

It was just a really it was one of those magical moments because it was like thought overall was a very difficult movie to work on on a political level without going into too many details.

You know it's it was the first big Marvel movie when Marvel took over and you know completely and it was a huge thing and it would like constantly produces.

They like about six or seven producers on set the whole time.

You know, it was It was kind of nuts.

But this little weird bubble that we lived in where me and Tony would be having these discussions in conversation the whole time saved, it just it was magical.

That was the time when I thought.

Wow, this is what it's all about, that's pretty damn cool.

That was a great story which of the big movie studios is the most aggressive in your opinion on monitoring his talent.

Social media talk show appearances, Etc because you here's some stuff about Marvel years.

Or some stuff about some of the other ones Mazel actually, I mean Paramount, what were very, very strict as well regarding, you know what? I was working on Star Trek.

So I know they're aggressively music.

I know that. Yeah, and they're very

aggressive one on photos. Like I couldn't even get a

photo. I couldn't get a an actual, I

couldn't get a press photo of my character from Marvel and I couldn't get a press photo of my character.

From Paramount from Star Trek, I had to get it through nefarious backdoors, interesting, you know, they wouldn't and I'm the actor that played the character and I couldn't get it.

I couldn't get a photo. It was, it was a very strange

thing. And they're very, very strict

about monitoring social media. Like everything you see social

media wise that comes out from, you know, the actors or the directors, or whatever, whether it be, you know, a Star Wars, basically, anything Disney Bridge Dated.

Yeah, is always something that's planned.

Does nothing. That's off the cuff.

Even the opened up is a really oops.

Oh God, yeah, everything. Everything is planned everything

there is. There is no such thing as Boop's

millions of dollars are at stake.

Sure. And even that Loops is our plan

like we had like we had a moment when we were all told that and Leonard Nimoy was coming on set on Star Trek, right?

And this was a big secret because nobody knew he was going to be in this movie and we didn't even know because we weren't even allowed to read the full script.

Only five people were allowed to read the full script five of the actors and they were the main. And even they couldn't take the

script away with them. They had to read it in the

offices at the studio and then they were only sent their pages.

We were only sent our pages and and we weren't properly allowed to read the full script. After the production started, we

were allowed to go to the production, stick the production office and read the script there with supervision to make sure we weren't photographing the script utterly ridiculous, but it is what it is. But anyway, we were told that

learning was going to be coming to set and that it was a big secret and nobody could reveal it or post anything on social media, blah, blah, blah. So, 10 minutes later or

literally, 10 minutes after Leonard, Nimoy had finished shooting his scenes, Zoe Saldana posts a social media, then if it was Instagram or Facebook, or whatever it was had a space because had a wonderful day today, working with the real spot, Leonard Nimoy or whatever it was and her face.

Yeah. And I'm sitting there going wait

the hell admit it. So no one, a big warnings put

out and then one of the lead. Access is being paid two million

dollars to be around like she's being paid out of not just throwing numbers out there, she thought of like to see what she wants and then afterwards I was just like this shit is old, man.

It's all of it is. Somebody said Jay, Jay took her

sighting. Okay, Zoe, we need you to post

this say this exactly how it is. We're going to take a picture of

you with then and blah blah, blah.

It's all planned. And the thing is once you

understand that you look at all of that social media on, ADD it in a different way. Right.

Yeah, you know when a new Marvel movies coming out and you have people posting stuff leading up to the movie, whether it be, oh my God, what's the name? Brie Larson, you know posting

all that stuff about how she's working out to be Captain Marvel? It was almost laughable to me,

but all of it is plan by the studio.

Yeah, so green-lighted because they want people to think that Brie Larson is fit and in shape and is getting excited to play the role. So it's yeah.

Everything's Nothing is spontaneous - some stuff that spontaneous, right? But pretty much, most of what

you see these big Scoops, these big slip UPS or whatever it's not slippers, suppose, it's all, it's all done.

Otherwise people be seeing the shit out of everybody is the, is there a 10 movie contract that doesn't say?

You're necessarily going to be? I don't know if it's 10:00

movie, six movies, it doesn't necessarily mean.

You're going to be in that many would they can call you back at any time? Time and you would need to make

yourself available. I haven't personally got one of

those and I don't think generally people don't have those kinds of contracts. I mean at the most I've heard of

people having three movie contracts, but 10, again, only thing I've heard of coming close to that at the marble contracts for the, you know, the big main A-list actors.

Yeah. Well they'll poke them you know,

whether it be Robert Downey, jr. Or Chris Evans or whoever where

they will book them for. So we got a contract, you Six

movies or how long it is but generally it's not the kind of thing that happens you know you'll get option for a sequel maybe or 43 movie deal or something like a you Chris Pine and yet those actor the brother Star Trek stuff.

Yes Zach. And and as we will do I think

they were contracted for three movies initially but yeah so generally that's not really something that happens and it's not necessarily a good thing either because If you get contracted for those movies, like if a studio contract you, it means that you basically are screwed and you cannot available for anything. Yeah.

Yeah. Because you have to always be

there and they can literally call you at any time and say, right, we want you to do this. This is what you're going to do.

And if the contract is there, you cannot even then negotiate the contract because it's already been negotiated.

And if in that period of time, you become a map, much bigger star your than stuck at the rate that they booked you at when you work such a big star, you know, it's all these Two things that you need to consider that. A lot of people don't really

think about. Like, when you think about Chris

Pine, for example, when he first booked Kirk on the first JJ Star Trek? He was a name but he wasn't

really, that massive a star. And obviously, he has become a

bigger start because of the movie.

Now the rate, they booked him at for the first movie, probably was comparable with who he was at the time and he probably booked him on his three movie deal based on that.

Straight. But then he goes away and three

years later comes back and he's a much bigger name.

Commanding three times that amount, you know, as a fee, he's then screwed because he's stuck in a free movie deal at the base rate kind of thing. You know, it's it's a kind of

thing that most people you know, in a lot of jobs have to deal with. Again we're talking to Joseph,

get what's your cinematic dream scenario?

And what I mean by that is like you know no matter how cheesy it is, you're playing the lead role and Intergalactic car Race movie that, you know, eats unicorns for dessert.

Like, what is, what is your dream cinematic scenario?

That's a really great question. And I do not have an appropriate

answer for you, simply because I like so many different genres of moviemaking and storytelling. You have range.

I have so many different ideas of things I want to do.

Like I want to be Han Solo, I want to be Indiana Jones, you know? It's funny.

You say that because I was going to ask that question to, you know, like what role have you fantasize about playing that.

Somebody else may have already played.

Like, you just gave me an example, Indiana, Jones.

And, you know, we got so low. I'll take anything that Harrison

Ford is done. You know, he's played some of

the greatest characters ever put on screen.

Your dance, the medium. I haven't, no, no, I've never

met Harrison Ford and I would dearly love to.

He is literally one of my favorite actors appeared, but there are so many so many inspirational actors and I think that's that's more. I think what I look at.

When I look at. Where I want to be in my

fantasy, kind of scenario regarding, you know, as an actor. And it's not necessarily a

particular role because there are so many great rolls out there in so many different types of movies.

I guess it's more looking at certain actors that I admire in the work that they've done and the position that they put themselves into whether it be Anthony Hopkins or Al Pacino, or Harrison Ford, or Paul Newman or you know, All manner of different actors but yeah, it'd be great.

To do, you know, some kind of space epic or I play the main bad guy because I'm not going to fool myself and think that I'm going to play the good and you playing a bad guy get out of here the stereotyped I know I know you know I would love to play a role. This is one of my fantasy roles.

Here we go and I don't know, I don't know what the genre is.

I don't think the genre matters. No, but it's a role where

initially, when you see me, when you meet me character, you think I am the bad guy. You think I'm the anti-hero?

You think I am the antagonist. And then a 180 happens.

And you find out that actually. I'm the good guy.

I'm the one that's going to protect the city.

I'm the one that's protecting the girl.

I'm the one that's protecting whatever.

I'm the one that's trying to rescue trying to save.

Trying to whatever as opposed to our, he's a nasty person.

What's he doing? Blah, blah blah because that

will turn the stereotype on its head and I like doing anything.

And I did a kind of shows. I like to watch things that

turn. A stereotype upside down.

It's too easy to do. The big muscley bald-headed

guys, the bad guy, okay? The skinny pretty blue-eyed.

Blond guy, is the good guy. Wow, those are few stereotypes

for you. It would be really nice.

To turn that on its head and half the pretty blond guy.

Be the bad guy. Sure.

And have me be actually the good guy and have people cheering and I kind of wanted to do that a little bit woozy Nation with the character of the man. Now I knew that the I knew that

the producers wanted to make me the good guy per se, but I was hoping to at least confuse people and have a situation where it well, he's up against the heroes.

But is he actually a bad guy? Or is he just on a different

path? Right.

Kind of like a Venom character or some of the other characters that we've seen where we think they're bad guys.

And they're not, maybe they're just misunderstood.

Yeah. Yeah, we're not out there to

hunt people, just trying to do a job.

We're just doing it differently to the other people.

Now those people interest me because they're more complicated. And I love the fact that like,

even when I played the albino from Banshee, it was fascinating because it was a character that really captured people's imaginations. Now everybody knew without a

shadow of a doubt. I was the bad guy obviously but

a lot of people also sympathized with him.

I got tons of fan, you know, comments and messages and stuff saying that, you know, even though the albino was the bad guy, we kind of sympathize with him because he's just doing what you need to do to survive. The jail and yeah and all this

kind of thing and it was just really nice because I was like, okay, I don't want anyone to feel bad for the bad guy, but to understand that there are different sides of the same story. They're always a different

sizes. Same story.

And and some of the best bad guys are the ones that don't think that great. The comment was misunderstanding

is exactly this me some sort of they think they're doing the right thing. But like whether it be the Joker

or you know, God there are so many of them out there.

You know, what do you think you think that a bad guy in there?

Establishes a bad guy but they actually think they're doing the right thing and I don't mean somebody who's psychologically Disturbed and I'm not talking about a sociopath right?

Yeah, I get it. So I guess the joke has kind of

borderline he's depending on which Joker, you see, right?

Because he was at the Apple sympathize with what the latest iteration of Joker on the big screen in a sense where it's like, Man you can only take so much but I tell you what, it makes you think twice about people with mental illnesses.

And in that guy, this talking to themselves on the corner.

You know, you just don't know. It makes me think differently.

Not that I ever really judged. It's like, you better be

careful, you're around and who you judge and you cast away because you never know what they're going through and they're right on the edge. So they happen and it could be

that, you know, homeless person on the corner talking to themselves or it could be the person in the car next year or whatever. You know, you just never know

what could turn someone it's like without again, without getting political. You know, the gun folk always

say your but good guys. With guns, good guys with guns,

you know, we need good guys, with the guns to stop, the bad guys with guns and I'm like, yeah, but the bad guys with guns were good. Guys, with guns until they did

the bad things with the guns. I said, so guns in my last

normal episode because I've done three Chicago Bulls, Besides and I Walk the Line, I Walk the Line.

I mean, you've seen me on social media.

I always walk the line and I covered all bases and of course the hardcore pro-gun people got pissed off and came after him.

Like, did you not listen to what I said?

You can have her stuff. I'm not sure.

There's no listening, there's no slowing down because they only want to hear what the program. People only want to hear one

thing that you think everyone should be able to have done period. Yep.

End of there's no buts or anything.

All people should have all dance and it shouldn't have to be any difficulty in buying and that should be able to just walk in and buy a gun winning. Miss Trainor buying a pack of

M&M's, you know, it's just like, that's what the pro-gun people want to hear the majority of the program.

Great one if the majority. Yeah.

The very very large money and then you've got the anti-gun people. And the anti-gun people, all

they want to hear is you want to take away all?

All guns. That's all they want to hear.

No, but the you want to take away our guns.

I'm like you I Walk the Line. I can fuse the fuck out of

people because I have a bunch of people who are anti-gun, who are friends and have a bunch of program.

People who are friends, and they're all confused by each other in any see, me shooting and stuff?

And my anti-gun people are like, why are you shooting?

I thought you were against guns and then pro gun control and stuff. I said, huh.

Pro gun control, not pro. Take away guns right there.

Different things, people like different big difference.

And in my program people, like, but you're shooting and stuff, you must be a hypocrite because you postings about don't control. I mean, yes, because I want

people who carry guns to be safe with them.

And I want people who don't carry guns to be safe from the people who do carry guns. So I'm interested in gun, safety

and gun control. I'm not trying to take away your

guns, I just want you to know what the fuck you're doing with them when you're carrying them around the streets.

Yeah, wherever you're carrying them.

I said, I said, I think people should be able to get guns.

Not quite sure you need an AK-47.

But I think if you're buying your first gun, it absolutely should take longer than 15 minutes because it takes longer to get of criminal background. Check for your job, then does

get a gun because my son bought a gun and it took him 15 minutes. And of course, the pro-gun, you

know, the And people didn't say anything.

It's just a pro-gun people jump down my throat about second amendment rights and all that kind of crap.

Let's switch gears a little bit here to some, some motivational stuff you were talking about earlier, like some of the things you looked up to and it kind of made me think about people who look up to you, but I want to kind of go back to the beginning on something here. So you find out you're color

blind. When you're younger, is it?

The red and green common? Yes, okay.

And so you're around 12 years Old when this happened, right?

And then, you know, your medical condition kicked in the alopecia, which I learned stuff, just reading up on it specifically to you. I knew about it before, I didn't

know there's different. Kinds, how difficult was that?

Because kids suck. Yes, pretty much.

Well at least they did right loud but yeah, I love his roof rizk. Kids can be cruel to other kiss.

Yes. It was.

So yes, so I happy I found, I was colorblind at 12 and that devastated me because all I ever wanted to do is become a pilot and so that devastated, me and the theory is that that the stress of that is what triggered the alopecia to start.

A lot of times they say that you know, alopecia is triggered by a stressful situation moment and we're so over the next two years. Well, it was weird.

It was like a year and a half. We're basically I lost half of

my right eyebrow, literally half of my eyebrow fellow and I got a big patch on the side of my head, huh?

It was a couple of patches and it turned into one really big patch about the you know, about the diameter of a tennis ball on the side of my head that then developed into, just all my hair falling out almost overnight. By the time I was 14.

And it was, it was incredibly tough because I was not at an easy school at that time. And people like the other kids

made it very clear, how they felt about something.

They did not stand very, very clear and I was already a child who was bullied and treated like shit I might you know, by gangs in the area where I lived and stuff so it just got worse.

I couldn't go to school, I had individual tuition which meant going to a tuition Centre instead of going to school and I completed my exams like that because I couldn't be around people because I was terrified and many things happened around that time. Okay.

You know you know, cutting a long story short.

Basically, you won't have to get too deep into this and it could be cuts that. I said, we don't have to get too

deep into this. I know I can be kind of a dark

place. Oh, no.

No, it's just, I don't mind talking about it.

Because what it does is it shows people that because many people We'll go through top dark times when their kids from for lots of different reasons or even as adults.

And what I like to say to people is because I didn't want to live. When I was that age, I did not

want to live You know, I was ready to give it all up.

Yeah. And The thing is just too.

Show people or demonstrate to people that it doesn't matter how dark things get, there's always another side, and there's always a little, as always, a path forward, even if you cannot see it, right? At that moment.

And You know, it was like, you know, there were times when I'd be sitting in my room and I'd be like, I just don't want to be here. I've had enough.

So, you know, I got to a stage where I had, you know, I was like coming up to 15 16. I'd got my exams from which

everything. I didn't know what to do then,

and I was playing soccer so many.

Professional soccer. I was training with the Arsenal

team, so you're a pretty good. Then you're playing Semi-Pro?

I was, I was very good. Yeah.

Fading Golems very Good. And it was an option for the

future for me. But I went into the military.

I didn't know why. I just, you know, because I was

a Cadet and thought I'd give it a try and people telling me you should do it. So I joined the Marine reserves

while I did that, I was studying at college and all that literally. After I got through Rome

retraining, I was at college and I was studying drama, and I audition for a theater school, which is where you go before drama sports, like, when you're still young and they don't know why I did it. Because I was doing a little bit

of theater, and the teacher said to me, you're quite good at this. Why don't you try auditioning

for a theater school? I was about it.

Was that, okay? I don't know what that means,

and what it's going to do for me, you know, it might improve my confidence or something, so the combination of being a drama school being in the Marines, toughen me up in two very different ways, either being in the Marines, toughen me up in a very obvious way, physically mentally, though.

Your started pumping Pumping Iron, it was a little bit after that I started lifting what I was about, 90 yoga.

So I was in the Marines from 17 to 21 and I started lifting about halfway through that and it was because I'd made a point to myself and I gave up on the subtle because I was kind of Burn Out playing soccer, but I said to myself that, I'm never gonna let someone bullied you get so I took everything that the Taught me. I took the confidence that I

gained from drama school, and I became the bullies bully.

And I believed people who were bullying, me and bullying other people. And I took that to quite an

extreme on certain situations in certain times certain circumstances, right? Imagine a lot of shit built up

from being younger, too. Yeah, but I did lots of things.

I shouldn't have done. I went a little bit overboard in

in my treatment of certain individuals, it seemed Overtly kosher at the time. Yeah, we do want to learn

battling Isis like, when you picked him up by the throat and threw him down on the ground and smacked his head against that Lamppost out with a bit extreme, but did he bully anybody else?

I don't know. I know that that particular gang

didn't show up in my neighborhood for quite a while afterwards. And that was a situation where I

saw this gang in my neighborhood bullying us, you know, overweight kid, who was on the ground and I was standing above him and they were kicking him and shouting at him and spitting on him. So I just ran up and I was just

like, what the fuck are you guys doing?

And they turned around and, you know, was a mixed age group of kids. And I think the oldest kid was

maybe 18, 19, and youngest kid was like 13, 14.

And I literally looked at every single one and I said, well, What you doing? I'm going to kick the living

shit out of every single. One of you starting with you,

and I pointed at the biggest kid.

And, you know, like yeah, right, blah, blah, blah.

So I woke up to him get right in his face.

If I see a single one of you in this neighborhood again, I am going to destroy every single one of you.

So about two weeks later, I'm walking home and I see them all hanging out in between the apartment buildings.

So I casually walk upstairs, get changed, put on my gym kit and go down to where they are. And I can see, the biggest kid

is sitting on a moped and what are the things that they would do is terrorized at the menacing, the neighbors, I running up and down the sidewalks on the moped, basically knocking people over. Right.

So this kid is sitting on his moped and he's just sitting there. So I just Sprint towards him and

before he knows what's happening.

I've left over the front of the moped and I've kicked him in the head and knocked him flying off the back of a moped.

And she's just lying on the ground and he's like terrified.

And I grabbed him and I from about six feet across floor.

Some other guy, one of the other kids start shouting out, so I grabbed him by the throat, lifting up up against Lance SUV, and I start smacking his head against the side of the van and his eyes are bulging. Some literally choking him out.

The other guys are like you did he kill you.

Going to kill myself? That's the fucking point.

I don't just making his head against his thing and I throw him down on the ground and I go back to the big kid, pushing a couple of the Other kids out the way because so many kids are quite, you know, about half my size and looking at attack them, right? And I grabbed the kid, that's on

the phone, I put my foot in his throat.

And I basically told I warned you, I warned you about coming back and he's in tears. He's just like so, so sorry.

So sorry. I said, no you're not, you're

not sorry at all. This is the only thing you're

sorry about your sorry about the fact of my boot is in your fucking throat. So, I won't do it again.

I said, I know you won't do it again.

So I just kicked him real hard and I walked away.

And those kids never showed up in the neighborhood again and what was really funny, as I was walking away.

I was kind of afraid. I may have gone a bit far and I

turned around, and I saw a couple of curtains twitching in a couple of the apartment buildings and also now and one of them. And one of them moved out the

way and there's this older lady and she looked at me and she just smiled and gave me a big thumbs up.

Haha, there you go. As I walked away.

So that told me that I didn't go quite too far maybe at least I didn't scare the old lady, but yeah.

So I kind of turned into that person and I didn't realize what a bad thing that was until I moved to America.

And I realized that I need to stop looking.

Here's the thing. See when you grow up And I'm

saying this, in a generic, kind of way I think when you grow up and you had nothing, but hardship for one reason or another and not declaring. One hardship is worse than any

other type. There are lots of different

types of hardships, right? We are will do some shit.

Exactly. What is relative a hardship.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

You know whether that hardship is Extreme poverty or bullying or, you know, Karen, Tell abuse or whatever it may be.

You grow up, angry and scared, and the only ways to deal with being angry, you know, there are two ways of dealing with being angry and scared. One is unfortunate your thing.

A lot of people do which is to commit suicide or to go down a dark path. And they probably end up in jail

or do drugs or whatever. And any other way to do it is to

try and better yourself and lift yourself away from that stuff.

I kind of try to do both. You know, I kind of try to

better myself and take myself away from that stuff.

But the anger and the hurt. And the hate for help for what

happened to you. Never left me.

And I felt like I needed to take that out on people.

When I saw them treating others in the same way that I was treated. And it became almost a job to

look for those people. And I terrorized people like

that. And I had to stop.

I had to find a way stopping as it was incredibly stressful and also it just I walked around with just hate and anger constantly. So what I don't, what does that,

what was the point that you decided?

Hey, this is or what happened. When you just snapped out of it,

it was when I made the choice quite late as in my life, like, I move I was 34 and I moved to America.

Like in my mid-20s, I didn't have any work, I was kind of broke in the UK living in a small apartment and it was the closest I've ever come to taking my life.

And something changed in me and I just thought, nope, I've been put here for a reason. I'm not going to waste my life.

I wasn't put here on this planet.

Now whatever you want to believe, if One Believes different things regarding God, a higher power, whatever.

That is even atheists, believe in something, yeah, whatever.

That is, there is something greater than us, And I was put here for a reason. I don't know what that reason is

right now, but I'm pretty sure that reason isn't for me to commit suicide. The reason is for me to learn

and grow, and to do this podcast, and to do this podcast.

Thank God when it's time. I thought I'm going to have to

do a podcast in 2024, a guy called Che.

And so I have to stay alive for that podcast.

Thank you. So yeah, it's just, that was a

kind of defining moment for me. It turned me around and I said

I'm going to, I don't I cannot see a path right now, but I'm going to look for it because it's there.

And that's when I made all these changes in my life, that's all went out of my way to look into researching how to move to America and then I changed. All my life, sold everything.

I had moved to America to start a new life, so it catalyzed everything. And now I'm living a life that

God, it's difficult to think that I nearly never had this life that I have. It's crazy, right?

I'm listening, I'm living the most incredible life, you know, just at this incredible home. Home with these cats and my

beautiful black. What are your cats names?

I know, Mercy, which isn't your cat, but Mercy cat.

Yes, yeah, she's my savior, I think yeah, but I have two three, guys, the people who is 18, who I wake up with every single day and have done for the last ten and a half years teen.

He's 18 years old just turned 18.

I know, No yeah and he's still super you know he deep still behaves like a kitten. He's doing really good.

You know we he has developing kidney issues.

Unfortunately. But we're doing our best to keep

that on the control because we'd like him to stick around a little bit longer. And then we have the two young

boys who both rescues who both of them?

Mercy has rescued from a set. She's been working on and one is

Montezuma. Who's our big black furry fur

ball? Who is so cute.

He basically looks like, have you seen the movie How to Train Your Dragon? I've seen the dragon.

Is that? That would Montezuma.

Looks like it. Montezuma looks like that.

Dragon look like with the green. Yes, he knows.

Yeah. Well, he's like I've kind of

changed color a little bit there like, white and yellowy green.

Yeah, but he kind of reminds us of Toothless from How to Train Your Dragon. He's just so cute and so

intelligent, and, you know, he's a little leprechaun, and then we have Mandalorian who Mercy rescued, he was a problem.

Child, he had some issues integrating at first, there's no way that. Yeah, but we, We put the effort

in and now we cannot imagine our home without him and he has totally fallen in love with his dad and wants to be everywhere that he's dad is a every time I touch him.

So yeah that's that's the family that I dream and I wouldn't I could never dream that I have right now.

So as man do with you right now he isn't actually I think he's sleeping on my chair in the living room.

They're all with their mom in the living room.

Damn mandalorians. Talking to Joseph Gat.

Let's talk about kids for a second.

So I thought I'd seen it all. I don't mean, you know, we could

jump to, let's talk about your camp or the camp that you'd been to. I couldn't find much about it.

But I remember seeing pictures of it, with all about kids, with kids, with kids, with alopecia, exactly with alopecia.

Oh, I love those kids. Is that something you do every

year? If possible try and get

involved, you are trying to get involved.

I've been involved with Kapoor children's out.

Keisha project now, for think on for about five years now.

And I got involved with him through another friend of mine, who you might know, his name's Anthony Kerrigan.

Another actor, who has alopecia, and you might know him from.

I've seen, I think I've seen a photo of you guys together.

Yeah, he was in Gotham and he's also in Bill hader's, comedy show. Yeah, really.

He's been quite a few things actually.

Yeah. And he, you know, we In France

and he told me about the cap kids and I've been involved ever since you know, to going to camps with the kids acting as a mentor and going to different events and stuff and hanging out with the kids. And it's just one of the most

beautiful things, these kids, and it's all for kids who have alopecia or suffering with alopecia or have suffered with alopecia and their families. And these kids are wonderful.

Just wonderful. I get as much out of it as they

do, I think. Think because I go, there is an

inspiration as a mentor to them to show them that, you know, one of the most, there are two important things for young kids to know, especially kids going through problems, like alopecia or whatever those problems are wanted to know, they're not alone. Yes, look up and see someone

like them. Yes, they need to know they're

not alone in this. That they're not aliens, they're

not alone. And the second one is to know

that this doesn't stop them having a healthy happy life.

Yes. Successful productive life and

if you can show them that or help them learn that by saying one, you're not alone. There are other people like you

of all ages. And to there are people like you

of all ages. Working successfully out there

and not only working successfully but working in an industry at with regards to myself and Anthony and a couple of other, you know, people working in an industry that is its whole ideology is by judging people based on the way they look everyone in this industry is judged based on the way they look. Yeah, whether it be your ethnic,

look, the color of your skin yet, the type of hair you You have or don't have what you have tattoos, whether you're fat, skinny, muscular, whatever you are, judged on that.

Are you the right visual? Look, we're looking for.

Yes. All you what we're looking for?

Do you fit The Stereotype or do you fit the social economic stereotype? What is the trendy thing we're

looking at? Right now we need young

African-American males. We need asian.

Females, we need muscular. White guys with Dave's head.

So whatever it is, you know, there are different trends that Hollywood goes through on top of the stereotypes and in such a visually biased industry or visually judgmental industry to be I would say I'm successful and the reason I say I'm successful is I know are like I'm not a major star or a major A-list but I'm asleep. I'm able to pay the rent and

live my life just threw my acting work.

And I can walk down the street and people recognize me and you know, I do fan conventions and that kind of thing.

So that I guess means I've reached a certain level of of success, I guess. But again, success is relative

repenting on who you are and what your expectations are.

But when the little young kids, see someone like myself, like one of the best things we did was we had a cap event, where we invited we basically booked half of the you No, the Disney movie theater on in Hollywood. We booked that theater for the,

for the cat kids. And we had a special screening

of Dumbo for them when it came out and you know, the theater was full of all these kids and then, you know, they they fill up the other seats with other people because it was one of the first screenings of the movie at the theater.

It was either the first or second screening of the room.

That's a hell of an experience. Yeah.

And then I went up on stage and were you, or were you a nerd?

Wrinkle it now has visual okay. All right.

Yeah. And I went up on stage,

introduced the cap, kids to everybody and said, a little something and introduced my, you know, myself and introduced the movie and it was just a really, really special, special moment.

Being able to do that for them, being able to show them that they can be anything they want to be because I never had that when I was that age, you know, when I was that age and my hair was falling out and I had alopecia and nobody really knew what it was. Nobody had a clue.

There was no one else that had it and so all I had was the continued bullying. The continued isolation.

The continued me. Trying to hide it all the time

by wearing a ball cap constantly.

Yeah. Yeah, and then my parents who

didn't have a clue what to do about it.

You know, my mom would just saying I'll stop complaining and being miserable, just go to school, you know, she, if sounds about. Right.

She was my - yeah, she, she just was like.

Yeah, that's just just go to school kind of thing and then I was experimented on by medical schools and staff.

It was it was, it was not flat, it was not pleasant.

So to be able to shine a light or be a light, for these kids to me, is everything, is everything because they need to know, and they need to see that. This is Joe, he's our friend and

he's on the screen with Dumbo, you know.

Yeah. It's it's shining that light

shining a beacon forward for these kids, so that they could wake up every morning with hope and happiness.

It's a may not feel ostracized because of the fact that they have something that they cannot control.

Imagine your 14 year, old self, imagine yourself in your mid-20s, not knowing what to do and ready to give it up and then look at you. Now, you don't, I mean it's just

like that climb is something it's inspiring, and it's a true Testament of, we all go through stuff and it's not to make little of anything anyone's gone through but believe in yourself.

Even if other people don't believe in you because we always have one or two people three, four people that either don't believe in us or Believe in Us, even when we don't believe in ourselves to pick us up, through those times and is the things you can accomplish. If you just keep going at it,

going at it. Let's talk about social media a

little bit. Yeah, a couple episodes ago.

I had one called you care what people think about you, and I reference a lot in self respect, respect for those are relationships with you. And even some of those who have

never met, you know, what is your thought on censoring yourself. On social media because there's,

there's one group out there that says screw it.

I'm going to say what I want. This is my page.

If you don't like me on follow me, you know, and then there's the other person who refuses to post anything, they just kind of linger, creep and pin post. Well cat videos.

You know, where do you think you're?

What do you think? Your level responsibility is

being Joseph Gatt. And just even if you weren't

even if you're just Joseph cat, the cat lover who works out at the gym and work, so the car wash, you know, separate from, who you actually ER, well, here's the thing, I try to never lie. I try to never lie and I try to

never be hypocritical about anything.

And so, What I post on my social media is never a lie, it's always me, but the things I'm just judicious about what parts of me. I post, you know, like I'll post

some personal stuff, but not. All right, and sometimes I'll

make a political comment but not always, you know, because it would be lovely to be able to go on social media and say whatever the fuck you want it. It would be so nice to do that

but the problem with that is like what we talked about.

Lee is then you're isolating people and because I guess cell is an appropriate word or to demonstrate myself.

What I show about myself on social media is my whole self, and it's what a lot of actors do, they show them themselves as a whole person as much as possible?

You know, it's not like, I'm a car social media person or I'm a gun social media person or it, social media person or just to Fitness social media person. I'm Joe Gap.

And so I have to show the gamut of things that make me who I am.

Because I think that's what people want to see in me.

I want to see the whole person. Why is Joe Gatto Gap?

What does Joe Gatto like what does he dislike?

But more what does he like? Right, you know, he likes cats,

he works out he Loves his partner, he loves cars.

You know, he whatever, you know, these are all things that I can post about. Now what I try and do is

obviously some people are not going to like me for all of those things. People will like me for some of

those things and not others. So what you try and do is just

respect everyone because for a start I would not be who I am without all of those people out there.

The fact that everyone out there is spending their money on DVDs Blu-rays to stream, the movies and TV shows to go to the movie theater, blah, blah, blah. That's what keeps Act is

working. So actors who turn around and

give the middle finger to their fans and say, you know, Fu, I don't give a shit. What you think about me.

This is me kind of dumb. Yeah, because you're abusing

your being abusive to your moneymaker.

So just on a purely economic level, You don't want to do that, but also do you want to be a dick?

You know, there are some people who want to be a dick.

I can name some names, but I'm not going to.

There are some people who you look at their social media and think, well, you're a dick and other people.

I know who are dicks, who put public report themselves to be really lovely. Wonderful people.

And I also know some other people who come across as dicks but I know I actually really nice people.

They just really crap on social media.

Yeah. You always hear the stories of

people who actually We meet themselves, you know, person a is wow they're living the life, they're doing this, they're super nice and I know someone. So what up and just try to say

hi and then they're an inspiration and ask for anything and they just kind of politely told him to fuck off, you know.

It's just like that's your first and only interaction with that person who could have all your posters on their wall.

I mean, I don't think people hang posters on walls anymore but kind of dating myself, I guess, but you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and it's again it's

something that we talk about all the time, you know?

Because you know, even some of that my level you get people coming up to you in the street, one of your photograph with you or wanting your autograph. It at the moment.

It's basically a wrap. Everybody wants a freaking

selfie with you. Yeah.

Right. And it's easy to get upset with

people when you're in the middle of doing your own thing, whether it be at the gym or in a restaurant or You know, whatever and people are just keep coming up to you and just into interrupting. You just can I get a selfie with

you? I really loved you in this.

I really loved you in that. Can I get a selfie with you?

And you're like I'm just in the middle of having an intimate conversation with my girlfriend or and just having a private conversation with my buddy or whatever it is.

I mean, there's a line and in some people just don't understand that. I mean, it's just be decent.

Like I could be a Super Fan if I see you eating.

I'm going to let you eat, you know, but that's just me.

I'm not going to jump in front of your Will be like, yo, hey, what's up, mr. Gatto, it's a weird comment.

Kind of discretion. That goes both ways though.

Yeah. And that is because it's like

that the person who's coming up and asking you for that selfie isn't thinking about the hundred other people that have done the same on that day. And so they're not considering

all of those other options. They think they're the only

person you know, when they come and say, I'm really sorry to interrupt you two, just get that one selfie with you.

I think that the only person has asked that we can actually do I like, probably six more in the last half an hour, but then on the other side on the flipside, all it takes is For me to be rude to one person and that could be my biggest fan, right?

And then they post our fans. Like you could be nice to 10

people that day and then it's the 11th person that stops, you just as you're getting in your car drive to the doctor's or stops you just, as you had an argument with your partner or stopped, you just as you've just whatever and you're really upset and they've just stopped With a big smile on their face.

They're like please, I love you. Can I get yourself?

Can I get a selfie with you? And you're like, just fuck off.

Not in a fucking me. Just leave me the fuck alone.

What is it with you? People is this shit that goes

viral and all of a sudden you're an asshole.

Yeah, a massive asshole. You know, it's tough.

So it's a weird balance that has to be made.

But again, I tend to try Bye and be gracious about it and be blessed, feel blessed about it because ultimately, this is what I have asked for now, but you can't balance a thousand, you can just try. Yeah.

It's just, you know, any actor that goes into this industry expects that. Even the really even the ones

that are really, really, you know that like I don't want to be a star, I just want act because I love acting.

Okay, that's fine. But you Look to be a successful

action to be acting is probably going to make you a celebrity of some kind if you're done busy as an actor which means you're going to have to deal with celebrity and you're going to have to deal with fans. So it's all part of the same

parcel. It's like you cannot read be one

without the other. Like, many actors Will Be Loved

millionaire Superstar actors and not have to deal with the fan situation. It's impossible.

You cannot do that one goes. With the other.

So when you get into the situation like with me, you know I got into action especially with me being such a very particular look sure. Yeah, you got to understand that

when you do something, people are going to see it and they're going to remember it and you're not going to be given any peace and you have to be okay with that.

It's not really okay with sitting in a restaurant having a quiet meal with your partner with your girlfriend and then getting texted or you know direct message.

It on Instagram saying, oh we're really sorry to hear that, you know, your account was you know, not well the other day, we hope your cat gets better. You know.

We were going to come over and say hi.

But then we heard what you were talking about.

So we left you alone and you're like what?

Yeah, and that actually has happened.

So it you kind of take the rough with the smooth and you have to always just feel blessed about the whole thing and you just have to figure out your way of handling it and all actors handle things differently. Now regarding that what

celebrities I should say, you never know, shot just acts as its sports stars and whatever. So yeah, we'll start cars cause

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Have a question for you. During will do you still, do you

still have your blue eyes forward?

You get rid of it and if you don't have it like what your daily do? My daily is my Shelby.

The blue is for the Audi S4 which I loved that went to a guy who took it over to New York, which is kind of ironic because that's where it came from. I bought it from a dealership in

New Jersey initially and had it shipped over to LA and it went back to the east coast and it's not living a happy life on the East Coast, the guy who bought her off in his kind of destroyed. It.

I can only imagine. Yeah.

It's kind of like I've been hearing the stories but then after that was the Shelby GT 350, which is blue as well.

Well, those are GT GT through are correct.

Or was it just a 350? No, that was just a 350.

Okay, in blue. And then I traded that for the.

350 are the gray? Okay, so that's when I met you.

Yeah, good night. I know you and I had the blue I

do. Don't remember, that's why I

said ich. Okay, if I did, I kind of feel

like I've known you for at least four years or five years, maybe four years, I'm just that good. Okay?

So compare your, she'll be your 350s, you know, with your GT500, you know, what are the similarities?

What are some of the differences for you personally?

I know this isn't a car review for me personally.

There is nothing that comes close to the 500.

Why? I loved, I loved the 350 are

that I had and I plan on keeping that longer bit, and when I got the allocation, it confirmed for my 500, I couldn't keep both cars. Now, there are obviously some

differences like, you know, the 350 are was a manuals, a stick shift and the 500 is a 7-speed DCT.

But in reality sake, they drive very similar to each other.

Each other the Interiors are almost exactly the same.

The only difference being the 500 is an extra, 260 horsepower, it handles, as well as the 350, it looks better in my opinion.

You look sharp. I mean, it is one of the most

badass cause I'd definitely buy us cause of ever owned.

The only thing that comes close to it for ruinous and fun was my escort Cosworth that I had in the UK before I moved.

Out here. Was that a late 80s?

Mine was a 92 92. A second like lay click middle

80's to like maybe 92 93, right? Yeah.

I think I think the causes were made.

The escort causes were made from, I think 88 through 95.

So I was actually looking at those maybe three weeks ago, interestingly enough. Like, oh man, I love the

escorts. And then I found somebody who

made. There's like a Cause The Euro

cause. Yeah, I love them.

I still love it and it's I want to get another one.

I've been looking on, bring a trailer and a couple of other places to see. You know, if one shows up but

the problem with having them here is there isn't a support structure here for those cars because they were never built here. So you know any parts I would

need I'd have to buy from a UK servicing the interesting because nobody here understands those Cosworth Motors so that's the only reason I have Born yet simply because people here just you know and it's not going to be the most reliable car it's you know an older it's like 30 years old.

So right and it's a car that you cannot help but drive hard because it's just designed that way.

So it's gonna break at some point and it's finding someone that can actually. Like I was actually bidding on

one on bring a trailer and while I was bidding on the car, I was doing some research and falling around and stuff.

And a few places I filed either said, you know, we won't touch that car or you know, we could give it a look, but we wouldn't go to make a decision until we actually saw it.

So, I'm in the middle of bidding on a car, that I don't even know that. I'd be able to get it all

changed a bit. So in the end, I just pulled out

of the bidding and I was so frustrated because it was such a beautiful girl. That's too bad.

Yeah. What's been here?

Like your what's been your like your coolest Automotive experience? That you can maybe a tribute to.

Your Fame, possibly playing a role in.

So I know you went around thermal you know, with your GT500 but it's also shit. Yeah, tracking is always cool

because there's no way to really get a feel of the trooper forms of your car without taking it on the track and you can get, you can drive a car and throw it around a little bit on a good Canyon Road but to do something safely and properly, you need to be on a track and I was lucky enough, you know timing-wise that four days after I took delivery of this car, my buddy, Greg who is one of the execs at SRO Motorsports invited me to be

a guest, a thermal when they are having one of their GT days.

So I drive out there and I invited a couple of friends out there. And one of those friends is

Billy Johnson who came out with me on the last podcast, he was on the last podcast, so you all know who Billy Johnson is.

They better what a great driver, he is, and the fact that he was one of the test drivers and development drivers for my car.

And one of the reasons that I actually ended up getting the car, which was an interesting story, but we'll get back to that probably later. But he was there.

I went out and then my other buddy came out with his Ferrari Pista and it was just an incredible experience.

We had four sessions where we could get on the track.

So first session was fine. I thought I was doing Okay, in

the car, second session, Billy came out with me and rode shotgun and proceeded to rip me to shreds on what a bad driver.

I was I would oh no Billy Johnson monstery.

Yeah, exactly. I would only accept that kind of

abuse from someone as qualified as Buddy Johnson, right?

So, he ripped me to shreds like, oh my God, but by the time we got to the last session, I was already a few seconds quicker per lap. Probably you know, close to

maybe eight seconds quicker. The lab and then we switched out

during the last session halfway through and he got in the happen in the driver's seat and proceeded to firstly overtake, the Ferrari piece of like it was a Prius and then show me exactly how quickly this car could go and he proceeded to continue showing me until he started drifting.

The car sideways around the track which he did for about two laps. I mean the guy is an incredible

driver and it easy. He's in relaxation.

He has while driving a car sideways.

Around a 90-degree turn and 90 mile-an-hour turn is quite phenomenal. Isn't that something?

I was terrified about my car and about dying, but more about my personal great, he's about to break my shit.

He's about to break my very expensive shit that I can literally just paid for. But then, at the same time, I'm

sitting there with a shit-eating grin.

Thinking this is amazeballs. This is fucking incredible.

This guy is killing it in this car and he was in.

It was just an incredible demonstration and incredible moment and I don't know if that will ever be matched.

I mean, the only thing that comes close to that was last year at the Long Beach, Grand Prix, where I got driven around by Joey Ahern, who was also another LeMans driver.

He was actually in the Le Mans winning team that won in 2016.

I mean, when I say team in the Le Mans winning car, Right.

I think Billy came third, if I remember rightly and the GT, but Joe is actually in the winning team and he gave me a drive around the Long Beach Grand Prix track in a Ford GT and it was amazing. Taking a few just amazing.

All right, there is nothing like the mom winning.

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you. What's a day in the life of

Joseph, guys? What at the polenta until

machine lockdown? Or normally?

Normally it's different everyday, basically.

But there are certain things that always happen during the day, Jim trying to get regular food in and then if I have appointments to get to they get squeezed into that day, it's normally at least one or two self tape auditions that have to be done, which will have to be squeezed in.

And yeah, it really depends from day to day.

There are only a couple of things that have to be done and what is obviously Jim? You know, I contact my agent and

my manager and figure out what's going on for that day.

If there's any work stuff that gets taken care of whether it be emails, you know, other correspondences if there are any publicity things that need to be done You know, all of that stuff. It's generally work stuff, you

know, I actually look at social media as work as well as, you know, have a portion of my day. Parceled out to do Social Media

stuff to either post something or respond to other things and respond to comments and questions and stuff.

But they tried to do that when I can and that's really about it.

It's kind of it's a weird. It's a weird weird thing.

You know, with with my life it's one of those things where it seems like there's very little happening but the days are busy just doing too. Eric stuff, right?

Yeah. And then when I'm actually

working on a job, There's just no time to do anything because you're on set from 7. 8 a.m. through Tools 7 9 p.m. at night

sometimes earlier, right? I mean like when you were

filming some of the other stuff I think you were getting up like two or three in the morning. Yeah it all depends on what

you're doing like with for for example you which you're probably referring to you know because of all the makeup you know I was getting in six hours before everyone else was because that's how long it took to do makeup, actually on this movie that I just worked on called the Retaliator Us which we shot in November in New Jersey. My character had a ton of

tattoos because he's former military and he had a ton of tattoos and that added like the extra two to three hours at the beginning of every day. Depending on what seems we were

shooting. If I was shirtless wearing a

tank top or something, we would have to apply all of those tattoos. And it would take a bunch of

extra time, so yeah. But that's, you know, that's

part of the fun. I think for me that was all That

stuff. That was one of the submitted

questions that I had. Was, how long did it take?

The makeup artist for Grand drop and Thor?

So were you saying five or six hours?

Yeah. Yeah.

That was about like we would a day would be a cool time.

Would be 3 a.m. would be in the chair 3 a.m.

Well, the first thing we would do is get into the main part of the suit and then they would start applying the makeup.

It would take about an hour just to get into the main suit.

Which was one, two, three, four, five, six pieces of foam, latex, full bodysuit. And the reason is most

comfortable long, it was horribly uncomfortable.

And it was made worse by the fact that it was foam latex, right? Which meant that it was soaking

up your sweat more through the day.

So by the next morning they created these weird kind of like Contraption hanger things so that they can hang the suits up and they would are a little bit overnight.

But you got to realize overnight is like 4 hours because by the time we were getting out of makeup and Any of the suits it was like 9:00 10:00 p.m. and then it would be cool to again

at 3 a.m. So the suits barely had time to

dry. We barely have slept, and we're

trying to get into the skin type.

Body-hugging soaking wet freezing, cold body suits.

It was not pleasant to say the least, but then the pleasant part started, which is where we get into the makeup chair.

Each one of the frost Giants had to makeup artist doing, you know, do a half of a face each and I would just fall asleep and wake up as a first time. So I would go to sleep in the

chair and like four hours later I'd wake up.

And most of the makeup would have been completed because they're physically the toughest role to play.

Because of all this stuff involved in, getting ready.

It was definitely the most tiring because of the length of the days. Yeah, because the days went on

so long, it wasn't the most physically demanding, which was louder degree demanding, most physically demanding Probably either Banshee or probably I did this low budget thing called storm again a few years back with another really good friend of mine who used to be a pro wrestler.

And we had a ton of fight stuff in it.

Like tons of will basically picking each other up and throwing each other around. Yeah, or rather I should say I

was picking him up and throwing him around an awful lot, huh?

That was really physically. Demanding storm, and a lot of

yes. Stormageddon.

It's, you know, it's a fun little movie, so I think maybe it's a Sci-Fi, like a Sci-Fi B-movie.

It's it's it's fun. I play two characters in it.

There's some of the stuff is really good in it.

Likes to fight stuff came out real good, you know?

And it looks it's got some really cool moments.

And I was physically demanding because it was a lot of fights, tough, and long fights, and a lot of the fight.

Stuff was choreographed in the moment.

We had a couple of great fight choreographers and like literally, as they were moving the camera or resetting camera would be choreographing the next part of the fight.

It was not balls. Yeah.

It sounds a huge amount of on the outs.

It was it was so much fun and also, like the hundred was fun as well, because I had to learn how to ride a horse.

And that was physically demanding, and very intense, but hugely rewarding and literally had to learn how to ride a horse for That would you say, is the biggest obstacle in Hollywood?

You had to overcome is for Hollywood.

Seeing someone with alopecia as a normal person.

That is literally the ongoing obstacle is for Hollywood to look at someone without eyebrows or eyelashes and consider them.

That they can still play normal people as opposed to just aliens or bad guys. All weirdos or psychos.

I actually had there was an article written about me on some web. Cage somewhere some web sci-fi

thing and it was titled the actor who could play Aliens without makeup. Oh lovely.

Yeah, I didn't even know about it.

They didn't tag me or tell me about it.

The only thing I knew about it was because obviously I have you know a Google Google search. Check thing for my name.

So every time something is posted with my name popped it it pops Up and tells me and I saw this thing, and I cried for a long time when I saw it. No.

And I was like, wow, this is Yeah, just because I don't have eyebrows and eyelashes. So that's that's the constant

struggle, that's the constant struggle with alopecia, that's the constant struggle in life which without a peisha is not being looked at as people who are sick or weird, literally controls in here, in your head. It's still weird house up the

lighthouse. Yeah, it's automatically

connected with your sick. Yeah.

You know, chemo cancerous lung cancer.

Patient. It's this immediate connection,

it doesn't matter. I, you know, I still have people

coming up to me shrieking. Oh, I'm so sorry about what

you're going through and what are you doing out?

You get the role. What's up?

And you didn't answer you, you have cancer, right?

And I literally the last time it happened.

I literally looked at the lady and I said, look at me.

Do I look like I have cancer? Do you flex?

And I was wearing a tank top and Stoller ago, I look like I have cancer. She left me said, I don't

understand how many cancer patients.

Do you know who are in my condition.

I have alopecia darling, I have no hair.

I just have no hair. She went.

Oh my God. I'm so sorry.

I said, it's okay. You're not the only person and

you won't be the last, but just realized that the next time you see someone with no eyebrows, it doesn't mean they have cancer.

Yeah. It's not definitely a common

thing for sure. Last one, we'll get you out of

here on this. When you doing characters in

video games, would you rather just do motion capture or voice acting? I love doing both.

I absolutely. I love motion capture but I love

the creativity of doing voice acting as well.

Like the ideal thing is to be able to do both.

I've never actually done full performance capture where I've done both for one character, I've only done like obviously I've done, you know, Kratos for 10 years from God, of War and have been his motion capture actor for all of that period.

Time. But somebody else was doing his

his voice and now I'm doing much more Voice work than I am motion capture and I love doing voice work because it is so creative and so much fun. Like sometimes I'll go in you

know, and I'll go into the booth like you know I'm currently working on to video games, one is Elder Scrolls.

Any other one is Before us or Skyrim.

Yeah, yeah. I've been, you know, I've been

working on that now for about five years.

I've six years, five years. I've got the rail.

And also, yeah. Star Wars the Old Republic where

play one of the main characters and that as well.

Now, with Star Wars, I'm only doing the one character which is Lord Scourge, but with Elder Scrolls, I have like five or six main characters that I do, but they also, which is really lovely as a team also asked me to In and just do some other stuff if there's extra time left.

Let's say, hey, how, how good are you with you?

Can you do this accents? Like yeah, can you can you can

you do this? And, you know, the last thing I

did was I did one of the Dragon voices was, it was incredible fun, which by the way, I forgot to ask you to do these and these Q&A answers in your, in your British voice, oh, you mean to it like this? Maybe maybe.

Yeah, not that. The last the last time I went in

for a day Had a voice phishing for Elder, Scrolls was about, and about six weeks ago, just before the lockdown.

And they asked me to do, they ask me.

See, it's really difficult because I have to think about going bag of light actual natural accent.

You know what's really weird is like in Elder Scrolls, they want me to be British for a lot of the characters and when I first went to the booth to start working, Have to mentally get myself back into speaking with a British accent because otherwise naturally might accept my voice comes out.

As you can hear, it's very Mid-Atlantic very mixed and that comes from me going right to the very beginning assimilating making life easy for myself as an actor and as a human being you come to America. He start you know talking with

an American accent or at least saying the word It's in a way that an American would understand so that you don't have to keep hearing. What, what?

What? I don't understand what like, ox

sake to sell. The fucking American accent.

I said water. God damn it.

Yes, it's fucking water. So so yeah, just goes back to

that, it's weird because speaking with my British accent now is harder, Than speaking with an American accent.

Now we you know automatically when I read a script I read it with an American accent. It's just been his soul.

It's just embedded in me now it's the strangest thing.

Yeah, that's funny. I really wish we could talk for

a much, much longer. This has been awesome.

Hopefully we can do it again. I want to thank you big time for

coming on the hard parking podcast so people can get a hold of you where you're not hard to find Joseph Gat.

Yeah, yeah, Joseph got official. Yeah, I'm the look for the check

mark. There are lots of fakes out

there. Oh yeah.

You had to happen the other day but yeah, I mean thanks for.

Coming through, thank you so much know.

It's been a huge, huge ton of fun.

I mean, you and I could probably talk for hours and hours, and hours. And it's a danger of this there.

Now, you've got to go away and cuddle This Together somehow and make some sense of it. Hey, I don't have anything else

going on right now, so all I have is time.

Hey, you better be careful. Make the most of it before I get

in my car and drive out to Arizona and find you all right, man. Thanks all right, you take it

easy, brother. You too.

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