Paint protection film is like a clear sticker that goes on your car to stop it from getting scratches or chips. It helps keep your car looking new for longer.
The Jeep Gladiator is a type of pickup truck made by Jeep. It's built to go off-road and handle tough driving conditions. The 2025 version is the newest model with some improvements.
Mopar is a company that makes parts and accessories for cars, especially Jeep and Dodge. They help people fix or improve their vehicles with original parts.
The stock exhaust is the car's original exhaust pipe that comes from the factory. It helps the car run quietly and cleanly but might not sound very exciting.
A stainless system is a type of car exhaust made from special steel that doesn't rust easily. This means it lasts longer and keeps your car sounding good.
The Dodge Ram is a big truck that can carry heavy stuff and is good for work or driving in the countryside. Sometimes, parts like the wheels or suspension might need extra care or fixing.
The Jeep Wrangler is a tough SUV that can drive on very rough roads and trails. Some special versions have extra power and cool features for people who love outdoor adventures.
Vinyl wraps are big stickers put on cars to change their color or look. They don't last as long as protective films and can fade or peel after a few years in the sun.
The MC20 is a very fast and light sports car made by McLaren, a company that makes fancy racing cars. It's built to be exciting to drive and uses the latest technology.
The Toyota 4Runner is a type of SUV that is really good at driving on rough roads and trails. People like it because it can handle tough outdoor trips and usually lasts a long time without problems.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a fast and sporty car from America that many people admire. Newer versions have cool features but can sometimes be harder to fix if something goes wrong.
so PFS if you don't know or Protective Film Solutions,
the name, the brand has been well known
in the automotive industry, especially in high-end cars
for a really long time.
And sort of legendary, I mean, you guys have gotten
all sorts of awards over the years.
You see your cars at all the car shows at SEMA,
full color changes, clear PPF, all the stuff.
And the way I ended up here was actually through Expel
because you were one of Expel's,
or I'd say their best dealer,
they ended up buying out PFS and making it a corporate store.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it's been, you know, working with Expel
for all this time has been amazing.
And then now to have the actual support of them
as a parent company is just next level.
So how it ended up for me is if you guys remember,
you're listening to the show,
Lightning and I were talking about having Protective Film
on our vehicles or PPF.
And I was like, that's great for your street car
or whatever, but it's not gonna hold up off-road.
And Lightning got Chris on as like a subject matter expert.
And he's like, no, no, we have the self-healing layer.
And I'm like, yeah, but it's not really gonna work.
And Chris was like, all right,
I'll put my money where my mouth is,
we'll just wrap your new Jeep that you're getting.
And a year later, after thousands and thousands
of off-road miles, I was a believer.
Not only did the hydrophobic coating work well
when it was wet, but also in the dust off-road.
If you look at pictures of my Jeep,
you'll see it looks clean off-road.
All my friends behind me from days on the trailer
are completely dusty.
It looks like I was at the car wash.
Yeah, show car.
Yeah, all the desert pinstripes,
like, you know, the Protective layer is super thin,
but if you don't breach it,
they sort of melt back into the film in the sun or in heat.
And there'll be some light scratches that get through.
But honestly, if you guys go to OVR Mag
and you look up, expel, you know, do a search,
you'll see my install article
where I walk you through what it takes.
But also what it looked like after a year
of being punished off-road.
And I couldn't believe it.
Like it was, and I don't know how many off-road vehicles
you guys get through the shop,
but it was pretty amazing how good the Jeep looked
to the point that we were at an Overland show
in Pomona, California at the Fairplex,
and OVR had a booth.
And I had my Jeep all set up with the awning
and all that stuff in our booth space.
And I was just sitting there,
and one guy walks by, he goes,
there's another one that'll never go off-road.
And I'm like, dude, you have no idea,
this thing's been thousands of miles off-road.
That's how good it looks.
And so, big believer, and as everyone listening knows,
I had an accident back in April,
and that Jeep is no longer with us.
Fortunately, I am.
But I had reached out to Chris at Expell,
and I said, hey, Chris, love the product.
Love working with you.
Would love to get Expell on the new one.
I don't know if there's a good guy price.
It's not cheap, but it's amazing.
And Chris said, dude, I'm so sorry to hear about it.
We want to get you back with our brand,
back in the product.
I want to send you down.
Are you in Orange County?
Yeah, I'm in Orange County.
Hey, how far is PFS from you?
15 minutes, great.
I want to hook you up with our corporate store,
and so, here I am.
You reached out and said, hey, this is Jason at PFS.
I'm supposed to call you about doing your Jeep?
Yeah, pretty much, right?
Not far off from that.
So, what did he call and say?
What was the conversation?
Yeah, Chris and I, let's say I go way back.
I guess kind of now, it's been eight years
since I've been with PFS and Expell.
So, Chris is great.
I love the guy.
So, yeah, he facilitates a lot of the deals
that maybe wouldn't be local,
or for some of these bigger deals,
like through the Off-Road channel.
So, Chris said, hey, I got this great guy.
He had an unfortunate incident.
We did some work on his Jeep in the past.
He loved our product.
We really want to make him feel good and take care of him.
So, say no more.
That's kind of the cool part of what we do here
is that we're able to execute with, you know,
Expell's permission on these projects.
So, yeah, I guess now going back to-
Mission accomplished, by the way.
Oh, thank you.
You get all those goals.
We'll talk about it.
Thank you, yeah.
So, I guess we do get to get in a lot of these projects
that are otherwise never seen, right?
So, like, for the Off-Road space,
we don't do a whole lot of them, right?
I think, like, at our show this weekend,
yours was the only one that stood out there.
Well, I think that was part of when I first talked to Chris
is he's like, we know this product works in that space,
but that's not where people know us,
so we want to get that exposure.
And I think, again, having the new Jeep done,
the same thing is I'm going to go out there
and talk about it, and people are always asking,
why does this thing look so good?
And it's funny when I tell them,
I just went to my club in my cigar lounge
the other night, and the guys were like,
did you get that thing wrapped?
So they're walking around it, and they're like,
that's not wrapped.
I'm like, dude, it's full wrapped.
And they're like, no, it's not.
So they're like taking their fingernails,
and I'm like, you can feel it if you're,
and I'm like, don't scratch it, you know?
But they were blown away.
But again, people aren't used to that
in this part of the industry.
And I think, I'm a huge proponent of it.
There's a huge benefit, which we'll get into you,
but your point.
Yeah, and I always appreciate hearing that,
because that is the goals, what you don't see on the car,
right?
So yeah, taking on a project like this
is definitely refreshing,
because we do get a lot of sports cars,
exotic cars that run through this shop.
We've done trucks over the years, a lot of Raptors,
but not necessarily a lot of them
that are specifically to go off-roading.
So with this job, both Chris and myself
wanted to throw the works at it.
This thing got full-body PPF.
It got full window tint, windshield protection,
ceramic coating, the full nine yards on it.
So it's always good to hear that you're a fan
of all the products, because that thing is beautiful.
Thank you.
But you do use it as intended,
and you're gonna prove why there's a need in that space.
When I come back next year at this time,
and I go, okay, can you trim the tails and stuff?
There'll be stuff to go over.
There's stuff that we'll want to tweak in,
but that's the intent is that let the product work for you,
versus your car taking a beating,
and now it's gotta go to a paint shop,
or you gotta replace windows,
or you gotta spend three hours trying to get
that caked mud off of there,
because it's just not coming off.
Yeah, and for me, we've had this conversation before
when I first came in, is I'm one of those guys that,
listen, I love to go off-road,
and I love to hit the trails,
and I don't want to be afraid of branches,
and all that kind of stuff,
but when I'm in the city, I want it dialed.
I want it to be detailed, I want it to look great,
and so I want people to think that it has never been off-road
when they see it in the city.
That's almost a compliment, because I keep it up.
I just took it to dinner, and it was freshly washed,
and it looked solid.
Yeah, the valet didn't say anything
when he got in, right?
And this is a product that helps me kind of live that way,
where I can have my cake and eat it too.
I can have something really nice when I'm in the city,
but I'm not afraid to go and use it as intended,
and that's a big deal.
So let's walk over what product did we put on it,
and when you say full coverage, the headlights are covered.
Even with the AV bumper, which is tight to the grille,
you guys are able to put the grille surround piece
on the colored part of it all the way around,
and we did the doors and quarters,
we did the hood, the hood is a monster on that thing.
Like it's really hard,
because there's so many elevation changes,
you have the pockets for the hinges,
you have the hood bulge, you have the narrowing,
you've got the vent, it's not easy.
Yeah, the Jeeps have their challenges,
it also has the external hinges and hardware.
So a lot of times, when you have that car in the shop,
and then you've got a Ferrari next to it,
it might be the Jeep that's more difficult, right?
It's not a routine car, but it also has a lot of weird
odds and ends, like the vents and stuff and the stickers.
Well, when you walk out in the shop,
and the dude's got a Ferrari, what, FX,
or something like that, and he looks at the Jeep and goes,
oh, shit, right here, you know,
there's probably something to that,
because I sat through the last time we had a PPF,
and I watched the entire process for a week,
and I was there every day,
and I could not believe the amount of labor
that is involved, and I asked them,
I said, what's your hardest vehicle?
And they said, probably the Jeep,
and I was like, you think it's a big square,
and it should be easy, but it's not,
it's actually a very convex design,
the side bulges, there's different little scallops on it,
you've got all the plastic vents
with the metal exposed hinges and body gaps,
and all those body gaps, you guys are wrapping
around the backside into the door openings and all that,
so that those tails don't catch dust or catch a branch
that's gonna start peeling or working its way
into a bubble or something.
They got to hire you to work here.
Yeah, okay.
You gotta sell them.
But you nailed it, and that's why, ironically,
one of the most time-consuming and expensive cars,
that's not exotic, can you guess what it is?
It's actually a Jewagon.
Oh, I can totally see that.
You see why now, right?
You just explained the exact reason.
So on those cars, it's a giant box,
but there's a ton of pieces,
and the way we do the whole side of that car is one piece.
So there's a lot of shops out there
that'll do multiple pieces, there's nothing wrong with that.
It's just-
And we talked about it before on the show,
Expel has some of the best templates in the game,
and there's some cars that you wanna use those templates on,
and there's other cars that come in
where the installer is gonna use a fresh sheet
because their style or how they know to wrap that vehicle
requires some craftsmanship and skill.
Extended edges here and there.
So yeah, so on certain cars like the Jewagon,
yeah, it's an expensive car,
but it's just an expensive install for that reason.
So yeah, the Jeep had some challenges on it,
so I know the first thing we had to do
is we got the car in, did a paint correction.
I drove it 3,000 miles before it got here,
and Chris even asked me,
are you gonna have it done in Michigan?
I'm like, I just wanna get home,
and so I tried so hard to,
and I took I-70 home, I'm in Colorado,
I'm in the Mouser's Construction Zones.
I only heard two times where rocks hit that thing.
One was just an errant rock in Iowa or something,
but I was in Colorado and a Dodge Ram
dropped his left rear wheel off of the road
into some gravel, and I got shotgunged,
and I was like, no!
You hear it blasting in the front end?
And I looked and I didn't see any damage on it,
but I didn't notice after the paint correction,
there's one tiny little primer spot,
and I was like, man, I didn't even see that
until you guys went through.
It wasn't bad.
No, it wasn't bad.
It probably sounded bad at the time,
but the car actually looked pretty good,
and that's part of the thing with the paint correction
is it does get rid of like light scratches and swirls,
but once you get pitted up and chipped,
you don't wanna sit there and touch it all up.
So I was actually shocked that I was in
as good of a condition as it was,
cause the Jeeps are just a flat wheel.
It takes impact and it just absorbs it.
Yeah, my windshield looked like an etymology experiment.
You know, like I had every bug
from the Western United States
stuck to the front of that thing.
Yeah, yeah, so paint correction was necessary
just for the light scratches and swirls.
You know, it's a red car,
so it's right in the middle of being dark and light,
though just the basic one step
kind of polished everything out
and got it prepped for the biggest thing,
which was the full body PPF coverage.
And going back to the paint correction,
Jeeps are kind of bad anyway.
They don't have the best paint quality.
There's a lot of orange peel
just because of the surface area on them.
And it's not hidden in the shape of the body.
It's just sort of a flat wall.
So you get some of that orange peel.
And then there's a lot of,
with the exposed hinges and like that,
like there's some times on Jeeps,
I've seen where the tailgate panels are.
You see a little line of primer,
where the robot didn't quite get it when it got sprayed.
And so you guys are really taking into account
like any thin spots,
really kind of making sure that it's swirl-free,
the clear coats dialed,
everything looks nice before you memorialize it underneath.
Yeah, seal it up in a case.
What do they call it?
The catacombs or something like that?
Or sarcophagus, there you go.
Once that thing is sealed up,
there's no one doing it.
So that's a great reason
why you should want to do paint correction first.
So yeah, so that mean paint correction went smooth on there.
We also did something a little unique with their decals.
So we took those off first.
Okay, so the story behind that is,
mine's a final addition.
You guys know that Jeeps said it was a final addition
for three years in a row,
because they thought it was,
and then they're like,
oh emissions, we can still pass?
Yeah, okay, oh, we'll make a lot of money.
Let's raise the price, right?
And so now you guys know the 2026 Moab edition
is a 392, but it's not a Rubicon.
So mine really was the Rubicon final addition,
but I hated the graphics.
I hated the final addition, it was so dumb.
And it also had a hood graphic on it.
Well, I'm not a big fan of the Stellantis Ram, Chrysler,
Dodge Jeep hood graphics
because they get etched really easy over time.
So a lot of the hard water stains and things,
you can never return them to stock.
And I don't have lights above the windshield header.
So the first thing I said is,
can we just take all the stickers off?
And my friend Matt owns Jeep Graphics Studio in Michigan,
and they're the licensed Mopar Jeep sticker maker.
Nice.
And I asked him, I said, hey,
can I get the exact Rubicon font,
but in something a little bit better?
And he's like, yeah, I got you.
So I've got the exact Rubicon size and font,
but it has like a topo pattern behind it.
And so rather than cutting out the old letters in the PPF
and creating a ton of edges,
you said just pull it all off,
we'll put it on and then we'll get everything on top of it.
And it looks great.
Like you can't tell the difference between that in stock
other than the stickers are different.
Yeah, and your friend did a great job
because they look like factory.
And that's always my goal is to make your car look
like an original or look more expensive.
Never to make it look aftermarket or take away
and make it cheesy.
Totally agree.
So I really liked the graphics that you went with on it.
So yeah, getting off those factory ones
to make sure that the paint correction went smooth
before locking the PPF.
So yeah, the next step was the fun part of
full body PPF.
So on this car in particular,
got full body expel Oldsman Plus.
It's the latest film by expel.
It's an eight mil thick film
with a 10 year manufacturer warranty on it.
They actually do make a thicker film that's out there.
It's a 10 mil, so 25% thicker.
We do on a certain cars, a lot of track cars will get it.
Just depends on goal and budget.
And we put that on the leading edge of the flares on mine,
right?
We did.
So we did, in addition to the full body eight mil,
we did the 10 mil added sections on top on the fenders.
And that way you can always take them off
because we know it's gonna get beat up and done.
Oh, it's gonna get hammered.
For sure, they're gonna look fuzzy in a year.
Yeah, but that's the purpose of having it, right?
And it's how far do you go
and chase the double layer film everywhere.
Yeah, right.
So yeah, the bulk of that,
that was the four day process of doing that.
We use the expel template in the system
and that's you see the plotters in the back.
And then with a lot of our technicians here
that have been doing this for 10 years,
they know where to extend the edges.
And the whole purpose of doing the extended edges
is to give that final touch of hiding the seams
wherever you can.
Cause even though the install be really good,
any exposed seam is gonna collect dust and dirt.
Doesn't matter what type of install was done.
So we really wanna try to lock that in
and avoid that from happening.
The bulk of that is really what's protecting the car.
With paint protection film,
I've only been in the industry for eight years myself.
But it's come a long way over time.
This is the latest product,
but if people think back when PPF first came out,
I always go back to like 996 portions.
And they had the partial bra front end.
And it was just a nice little square
and it turned yellow within a couple of years.
So oftentimes, there's people out there that think,
oh, that's what PPF is.
But now you talk about tenure warranty,
plus you've got the UV stable inhibitor in there.
So now, I think there's a couple of things,
correct me if I'm wrong,
that expel guarantees and that's with a tenure warranty,
you can remove it pretty easily at 10 years
versus it coming off in pieces like a wrap would.
How many vinyl wraps have you seen that last
a couple of years in the sun on a plumbing truck?
And they're impossible.
I mean, it's $2,000 in labor just to take it off.
The other thing is it won't yellow in that 10 year time period
because of the UV inhibitor.
Yeah, and that's the nice thing about having this product
is that it's really the best on the market.
There's a lot of great products out there
that have similar warranties and similar results,
but expel really stands behind this.
And to your point, they do say, hey, at least for 10 years,
as long as you're properly maintaining your car
and it's garage kept, it's gonna last.
Will it last longer than that?
Probably, but at least for 10 years,
you don't have to worry about that.
So that was another big thing I think with the PPF industries
that PPF might cause pain issues.
It couldn't be further from the truth.
If you have underlying pain issues
or a poorly repainted part, that's different.
That's gonna bond to anything at that point.
But yeah, it really is a great product.
So just going through some of the cars,
the first day you brought me in,
kind of gave me the tour when I came here,
I was blown away.
I mean, there was so many unique, like one of a hundred,
one of 25, you know, like weird, cool stuff.
You guys had the Bugatti at the open house this past weekend,
which is I think one of 99 or something like that.
Yeah, the Mistral.
Oh, dude, that thing was beautiful.
And then you like, there's a lot of Teslas, right?
Cause you guys have a deal with getting them wrapped.
We do, yeah.
You've got a wholesale program through Tesla.
So it's always funny to see those.
Those are the most mainstream thing here,
but everything, there's like a MC20 that was here,
a bunch of McLaren, but I mean,
it looked like a car magazine inside.
Like if you could collect all the cool super cars,
and then there's a couple of them that were beautiful,
but were maybe two or three years old.
You're like, oh, this guy rotates through his collection
and we did this car and now it's been a couple of years.
So it's back for us to go, you know,
kind of dial this one back in.
I was so blown away at A, the level of craftsmanship
and the job, cause I was walking around like trying
to figure out which ones had PPF and where,
but also just the quality of clientele
and cars that come through this place is unbelievable.
Yeah. And honestly, that's what makes me come in every day
is that when you're around this, you know,
I'm a car enthusiast through and through.
Obsessed is an understatement with cars.
I've been that guy on the forums, right?
Till three in the morning.
You know, I did that ever since I was probably
12 years old.
So I'm aging myself now, but yes, I love cars
and everyone on the team here is the same way.
And so when you come in and you're around this stuff
every day, it makes it a little bit easier to come to work.
And having really cool clients like we do
is just the icing on top of that.
So it's, it's, it's cool.
You know, you came in, you saw the Ferrari SF90XX
that was here from a long time client.
He rotates his cars out, wants them perfect.
So he sends it blindly and says, what does the car need?
And we advise on it and we have his best interest in mind.
Like, like I owned the car, right?
But yeah, that's kind of the cool stuff
that we get to see in PFS.
And there's this system, stupid Jeep comes rolling in.
They're like, what is that thing?
It's perfectly in line because as much as I don't know
about the off-road world or Jeeps,
I can tell when a car is expensive.
I'm not gonna tell your wife that,
but I know it's an expensive Jeep and it's super pretty.
It's cause you care about it and you're gonna use it
and go off-roading.
But again, like you said,
you want to take pride in our own town.
So once you put the expel on,
so now we've got the vehicle is covered,
you've gone through the process.
And it's actually a really interesting process to watch.
You either cut out a sheet from the template on the plotter
or you use a complete piece.
You remove some parts, sometimes like door handles
and rubbers and things like that.
So you can wrap the edges and kind of have everything hidden.
Then you go through the process of laying it out,
squeegeeing it, and then it's gotta cure for a little bit
also, right, for the moisture to get out.
Then you go, actually, this film has an impregnated
ceramic in it, but you also ceramic
on top of it as well, right?
Correct, yeah.
So once the PPF is done,
it goes through final inspection process.
You see the guys putting tape on the car
and doing quality control.
Once the PPF is good, we're happy with it.
Final step on that is doing the ceramic coating.
So we use, of course, expel products,
expel fusion plus ceramic coating.
There's a few options you can use,
but that basically went over all of the PPF,
went over all of the remaining exposed paint,
the glass, the plastics, and the wheel faces.
Each of those products are slightly different
and tweaked for the surfaces,
but essentially you're sealing in as much
as you can on the exterior
to just kind of make it easier to keep clean and maintain.
Of course, that's gonna add the protection layer,
but the main reason to do ceramic coating
is just ease of maintenance.
I'm sure you know and you take the car off-roading
and you bring it in, you wash it.
Everything just sort of falls off.
If that mud's stuck on there,
it's gonna change your 30-minute wash to a three-hour wash.
For sure.
And the other thing is, especially in the black plastics,
most of the plastics today have an issue
with UV and chalking and things like that,
so part of the ceramic helps to sort of seal that in
against that issue.
And then to remind people who are thinking,
ceramic is, yes, it's a hard layer
that gets added as a protective layer,
but it's not the right thing for preventing scratches.
And so people kind of conflate those two things about,
oh, well, it protects the car,
but it's because it's harder, it also prevents scratches,
but that's not what that product is used for.
Yeah, you got it.
So that's a great point.
I always bring up whenever I'm doing a call with somebody
is PPF is to protect the paint, paint protection film.
It's a thick layer of film.
Ceramic coating is a chemical.
It's never gonna be the same as an actual film on the car.
So while ceramic coating might help a little bit
on some protection, that's not the selling point to do it.
You do it specifically for overall ease of maintenance,
making it shine, whether it's PPF, paint, plastic,
and then just ease of car washes.
So if you can, depending on your budget,
if you want to adjust coating, awesome.
If you want to do a mix of maybe just a front end PPF
and then ceramic coat the rest of the car,
best of both worlds while keeping costs down, great.
If you can afford it and you're gonna keep the car
for a long time, the budget's there,
then yeah, full body PPF ceramic coating.
But yes, ceramic coating is mainly for just sealing it in,
making it easier to maintain.
Works really well on wheels,
because brake dust and things like that.
That's one of those things that can eat up the paint
or the finish on a wheel, and it's really hard to get off
and having that really slick ceramic coating
that kind of fills in the valleys and peaks
of whatever the finish is helps for those things
to not adhere and stay in the wheel
to have a chemical reaction.
They're a lot easier to wash off
and keep them looking nice.
Yeah, all those porous surfaces
having the ceramic coating in there
just makes it less likely to absorb.
So then from there, we mentioned full tint,
and so obviously X-spell, it's a film company,
so tint is a big part of your business.
A lot of people come in because they need tinted windows.
Yeah, we might get cars that come in just for tint, right?
Especially in SoCal and Orange County.
So yeah, in your car, another X-spell product, of course,
it's gonna be the X-spell Prime XR Plus.
So it's X-spells top-of-the-line nano-ceramic tint.
Ceramic really is what people are doing in the industry,
regardless of the brand.
It's got a lifetime warranty on it.
It has a 99% UV rejection.
It makes a huge difference.
You know how I feel it is, as I've gotten older,
my arms don't like being in the sun.
You got it.
So I'm driving through the desert,
and the difference between being in a car without
and being in mine with the XR is massive difference
in being able to put my arm on the door ledge
and not feel any heat or being beat up.
Cause it's like, it's not the heat of the sun that does it.
It's the UV affecting your skin,
and I feel a massive difference when I'm driving with that.
It's hard to go back, right?
Yeah, it is.
I didn't really have to driving it.
And I'm like, oh man,
my arm feels like I'm getting roached in the sun.
And I'm like, I realize, oh, I don't have tinted windows, yeah.
Yeah, and that's why it's become more and more popular
with the nano-ceramic tint,
is you don't have to go super dark
to get the same benefits, right?
So before it was like 20 years ago, limo tint.
Limo tint, everything, right?
Make it as black and dark as possible.
Now on some films, you can do a 70%,
which is no visual change,
but it still has a really high heat and UV rejection.
So yeah, in your car, tinting all the side windows,
it's personal preference for the shade and darkness.
For like windshields,
that's something that people feels a little silly,
but over the years, myself as well,
in the eight years I've been here,
windshield tint has become extremely popular.
And it's mainly for that same reason of,
on the windshield, you're not changing the visual look,
you want to just get that heat and UV down.
So we'll do the lightest option,
which in this case is a 70% tint.
And that helps quite a bit for keeping heat out of the cabin,
keeping the whole cabin cool.
Which is a big deal when you're prowling around the desert,
right, like any little bit else.
100%, yeah, yeah, totally, man.
I'm sure you'll notice that right away
when you take it back out.
Yeah, I, like I said,
just driving down the 15th of Vegas or something like that,
it's already a big difference.
So we put a new product,
it's been out for probably a little bit over a year or so now.
Yeah, SEMA 24, so just over a year.
So I know Jay had this put on his TRX,
and then he came back on the show,
talked about it a little bit.
Chris had offered it up to me before the accident.
And so on this one, that was one of the things he said,
and we want to do the windshield film.
So Jeeps, as you know, are notorious for picking,
being rock magnets and picking up everything on the road.
And you know why, right?
Because they're flat.
They're flat.
It's upright, it's flat.
And it's just, yeah, they're like a rock catcher.
And I've been pretty lucky, knock on your wood desk,
but I've been pretty lucky.
I've only cracked one Jeep windshield
in like the last 15 years.
That's not bad.
But I'm pretty, I stay away from,
try and stay away from certain vehicles
and place on the road.
And so this was kind of a big deal
because if you look at what the cost
of windshield replacement is,
the glass, the deductible,
as well as the install itself,
a lot of newer vehicles,
especially if they have antennas embedded in them,
if they've got UV embedded in them,
if they've got the radar.
Now you're looking at sometimes 1,000, 1,500, 2,500,
$3,000 for a high end luxury car.
Exotics way higher than that.
Exotics over 10 grand, which is wild to think about,
but it's just the reality.
And so yeah, the price is sub $1,000.
And it's great because it's cheap insurance
when you compare the price of a windshield.
Really the whole purpose of doing it
is like what you just said,
which is you're offsetting that likeliness
of the rock going through the glass and cracking it.
You can't go back, right?
So putting that film on there is,
it's gonna make it so it collects all the pitting over time.
This particular product is the latest one from Expel.
It's got a one year warranty on it.
So not as long as the PPF, which is a 10 year,
but there's no alternative, right?
It can last longer than that
if the car is properly maintaining garage kept.
But the nice thing is it does absorb it over that time.
And when the time is right, you just simply peel it off.
So depending on the car, the value of the car,
on the exotic cars, super simple to justify.
Because on a Bugatti windshield, I'm just guessing, right?
Just so don't quote me on it,
but let's just say it's a $20,000 windshield, right?
If you do a product that is sub 1,000 that goes on it,
it makes sense.
And it keeps it original,
because on those cars, every dollar matters
when it comes to originality.
And on any car, and I think we've said this
on the show before,
cracking that OE seal around the windshield
is depending on your installer.
And this isn't to badmouth any windshield installers
because there's a lot of great ones out there.
But that can be the difference between wind noise,
water leaks, sometimes you have to chase it
and do another windshield replacements.
This is a pretty cheap insurance.
Like you said, it's, let's say, give or take a year.
You come in, you do it as needed.
But you're also a third or even better
the price of windshield depending on the car.
I'm thinking more mainstream,
but you're also not replacing that original windshield
or cracking that seal.
And so you're not getting into those water
NVH issues that you might have otherwise.
A lot of variables in there, right?
And again, it's to the credit of the people
that might be working on the windshield replacements.
You get a tool in there, it slightly slips a little bit.
Now you're damaging the paint.
So to try to keep the original windshield
nowadays is crucial.
So with this product out there,
just eliminates that need from happening.
It's basically for anything.
I mean, in our world, Jeep, 4Runner, Raptor, everything.
Yeah, they make it.
So this has come a long way because, yeah, years ago,
it was more selective on certain windshields.
Of course, Jeep, G-Wagen, those are easy to do
on some of the trickier ones,
like some of the modern Corvettes,
where they-
Kind of like trim around it.
Exactly.
It makes it really difficult where it wants to pop up.
So the latest product has been really, really good to us.
Glad that you have it on your car.
You're gonna be able to experience it right away.
But yeah, it's a great alternative
to just replacing your glass, right?
And having to deal with an aftermarket windshield.
I'm impressed with the optical clarity.
You cannot tell a difference sitting in the driver's seat
unless you get right up in the windshield
and turn your head to the right or the left
to where you're looking through it sideways.
You can see a little tiny bit of waviness,
but there is 0% chance somebody would know
that you had film on it by sitting in the car.
You literally cannot tell.
Yeah, you're typically looking through the glass,
but if you are looking for it
and you're looking at the glass,
then it's a little bit different.
So it's a great point.
That's amazing.
So I know what people are gonna ask,
the number one question,
and I'll get to this on the PPF side as a follow up,
but on the windshield film, how do you maintain it?
Are you, can you use your wipers on it?
What happens if it rains?
What happens if it's dusty off road?
How do you maintain it
so you can maintain that optical clarity?
Yeah, so starting with just the basics,
trying to keep it as clean as possible
with just a basic wash is your first starting point.
If the car can be garage kept,
that's gonna eliminate the sun.
So even though it helps with UV,
if you can keep that product out
for extended periods of time,
it's gonna help quite a bit.
The next step on there is,
I always recommend turning off auto sensing for rain.
The reason why, especially in so-cals,
you don't get a lot of rain.
So what happens is your car's dirty,
you get something that splatters on it
and it freaks out and tries to move the wipers.
It rubs it in.
And then it pushes the dirt in, right?
There's not much you can do at that point.
The last thing is there's a product that Expel makes
that you can apply to it
just to kind of restore it and keep it slick.
So the ceramic coating helps quite a bit as well.
But outside of that,
just keeping the car clean as much as possible.
Would you use like the detail spray
that you'd use on the PPF on the windshield?
You can use it on there.
They do make a specific product for it,
but detail spray is just fine.
And that's why it's always good
to use the same manufacturer product
as the product you're putting on there.
That's another good point is Expel has a full line
of chemicals and it's designed specifically
for Expel's films and wraps and things like that.
Yeah, it takes the guesswork out.
If you're using,
there's a lot of great products out there
that you can use,
but if you're unsure and you don't already have
a good lineup of products,
Expel is a great line of aftercare.
So if you're using the ceramic or the restorative product,
is it gonna work like,
say like a Rainex or something like that?
Is there a hydrophobic property to the film as well?
The rain?
You might see in the rain,
it kind of blows off before you need to get into the wipers,
which helps you not use the wipers in light rain.
Correct, and that's the other reason
why you should turn off the auto-sensing feature,
just because a lot of the times
the water's just gonna bead right off.
Depending on the slope of the windshield,
obviously the more slope it is,
the easier the water is to come off of it.
But yes, it absolutely has a level,
I can never say the word, hydrophobicity.
Oh, that was really good.
Try to spill it off.
So not just hydrophobic, but hydrophobicity,
which essentially in fancy words,
it makes it so it's less likely to hold that water there.
And you don't want it to hold the water
because whether it comes from the tap or the sky,
you've got chemicals, minerals, or contaminants
that are in the water supply all the time.
And you want that off of your,
you want it to etch anything.
Exactly.
So going back to the PPF,
how would you maintain that over time?
What are the chemicals that Expel offers?
And how can you keep it looking nice
so you can get that lasting effect
of how it looks the day you have it done?
Yeah, we wanna make sure everyone can maintain
and keep that warranty on there.
So the easiest thing to do is routine washes.
So whether it's weekly,
Hand wash, not paying for anything, right?
So whether it's weekly or every other week,
the type of wash you do is crucial.
So hand wash, foam canna wash is the move.
Do not go through a gas station car wash
because it's either gonna use high pressure,
which over time eventually is gonna catch
some sort of an edge.
Or it uses harsh chemicals to break down the dirt.
Or it uses bristles, which are really dirty
from the thousands of previous cars before you.
Or a combination of all three.
Yeah, or I mean, how many times have you gone
through the car wash and the chamois
that are on the big rotating cylinders?
Well, I guarantee you those weren't getting
just clean cars and they're rubbing that dirt
on everything that goes through there.
Yeah, those are the variables you can control.
So if you need to take it somewhere,
hand car wash, off track car wash,
if you tell them that the car is PPF or ceramic coated,
it's actually a benefit
because you don't need to spend as much money
to do like an added wax or something else.
You just need a basic wash in the car.
So for car washes, it's pretty straightforward for that.
And Expel does make the ceramic soap,
whether it's the bucket method
or to be used for the foam cannon.
Foam cannons, by the way, I'm a huge fan.
I bought one off Amazon
because Jay was talking about it.
And I was like, yeah, okay.
But then when I used it
and I started getting the right chemicals
and I was like, this,
why would you do anything else?
Because it's got a lot of surfacants.
Surfacants, is that right?
I don't know, I'm not the fact check you on it.
Anyway, it's got the chemicals
that lifts the dirt off of the top of the surface
and embeds it in the foam bubbles, right?
And then you can just rinse it off
rather than moving it around with like a high pressure spray.
It's always better to hit it with the foam first
to kind of loosen everything up
and get it off the surface.
Yeah, otherwise you're really gonna be rubbing
around the dirt.
And even though it's on PPF,
which is in this case, it's self healing
and the sun will kind of work its way out.
You still don't want to do that if you don't have to.
So yeah, so I'll have to look up that word.
Yeah, that's one of my favorite new words.
Friends over at Amsoil have a great new car care line
and one of their things was talking to the engineer
developing and it was a surfacant.
Surfacicant, something like that.
And I'm like, that's a really cool word
I will never be able to say properly.
I think you got on this one though.
I hope so, I hope so.
So then you've got to clean,
you've used the ceramic soap, foam cannon.
You dried it off with fresh clean microfibers.
You're not using old beach towel
that's been sitting on the garage
with the old wheelbarrow or something.
Now, car looks great.
What are the products to keep up and maintain?
Yeah, so the nice thing is
if you have the ceramic coating as well,
then it's gonna make it so it's easier to dry off.
It's good to go.
Whether you do or don't,
you can still use a quick detail spray
if you still see some stuff here and there.
If the car looks really good
and you want to make it a little more slick,
then they have the ceramic boost.
So that basically has a similar property
to the ceramic coating
where the slickness is restored
that makes it like buttery smooth.
So that's not something you need to use every car wash.
You'll waste the product
because it's only gonna get so slick.
So usually I'd say like a ceramic spray
use maybe once a month,
depending on how often you drive your car,
but it's just a really good product
to make it extra slippery or slick.
Outside of that, I typically say the car is clean.
You go drive it to dinner, you come back
and it's got some stuff kicked up on the side
of it from driving through a puddle.
That's great for the quick detail spray.
Less is more.
So you don't need to be using a ton of product on the car.
They do make a great waterless wash.
Usually that's reserved for if you can't wash the car
and now it's been maybe a week since you wash it
and it's a little dusty.
What that does is it can't use that word again.
It lifts up the dirt off of the PPF or off of the paint
and makes it less likely to scratch in the process.
I don't push a lot of waterless wash
because oftentimes people might abuse it
and then they only do that
and that's not the intent of it.
Waterless wash in appropriateness is what it is.
Exactly, I love it.
So it's supposed to be used if you have to,
that's the product.
Otherwise, there's nothing better
than a real old-fashioned car wash
or hand wash on the car.
I feel like I remembered or relearned
all the things I had forgotten about PPF today
so I appreciate it.
I feel the same way, man.
I think I'm very impressed with how much you know about it.
It's one of those products that I was like,
yeah, whatever, and then I got to use it
and it was like, oh, this is incredible.
So from the PPF, so I think we've covered PPF,
we've got the windshield film, we've got the tint.
Maybe real quick dive into some of the films
for like wrapping and color changing cars
because you guys do that here as well.
We do, yeah, so the PPF is Paint Protection Film
also known as Clear Bra.
Typically when people think of wrap,
it goes back to like a vinyl wrap.
So that's when you're thinking of changing
the color of the car.
For graphics or?
Exactly, graphics, decals, delivery, stuff like that.
So that is a different product, it's not as thick
so a vinyl wrap is three mil thick on average.
Longevity of those is typically about a year
for most of the films in the industry
but you don't do it to protect the car,
you do it to change the look.
So you bought that brand new Porsche,
it was the wrong spec, you got the car black
and you really wanted it red,
then we wrapped the car with a vinyl wrap
and you could do it a few ways,
you can wrap it with or without door jams
which we take the doors off the car,
we have a team of technicians in-house
that just do teardown and just do re-assembly.
That's insane, cause there's like,
you're working with a one of 99 Bugatti
and there's like a carbon, like real carbon fiber
doodad on the spoiler that needs to be popped off
and that one guy in the shop's like, oh, I can do that.
I would be, yeah.
I'm not touching it, I'm touching it.
Yeah, you don't want me to get back there
but the team does a really good job.
Ralph, he's been with us for a very long time before me
and he takes a lot of pride in his work, which is huge.
You have to hear with the type of cars that come through
but I trust them 100% on stuff.
On some of the Porsches,
he could do it literally blindly with this,
with a blindfold on just based off muscle memory
but yeah, having a team of guys that just do that
helps with the technicians that are doing
the vinyl wrap or PPF to focus on what they're good at.
So with the vinyl wrap, you do need to disassemble the car
quite a bit more than on PPF
just because you're changing the color.
You don't want to see the color pop through the door jam,
for example, on a white car
and you're changing it to black or whatever.
Exactly. I think high contrast.
And some colors are worse than others.
You have a yellow car, you're wrapping purple, right?
But if the car's black and you're wrapping it gray,
you can get away with not doing door jams.
I never want to oversell somebody
on stuff they don't need.
So if you don't need to do door jams on the car,
we'll leave it alone.
But otherwise, basic things,
bumpers are disassembled, rockers,
headlights, taillights, emblems,
and some cases, window trim, certain moldings.
And then, yes, with door jams,
the doors individually come off the car.
It looks really scary,
but the guys know what they're doing.
They wrap in our jam and it makes it look like they're...
Here's my $300,000 car and the door is coming off.
Like you pull the door off the Jeep, whatever.
It's two bolts and a connector, right?
I mean, you're pulling off the scissor doors off a Lambo.
I can't even imagine what...
It's scary and that's why anytime we get a car
that comes in that's brand new,
I'm always hesitant and we want to get the car in first
and really examine it.
And if it's something we don't feel comfortable doing,
we'll be honest.
The nice thing about what we do is
we have a lot of partnerships with these dealerships.
So Lamborghini...
You serve a ton of the local exotic dealers, right?
We do.
So even like right now,
I think we have about five of the cars
are from the local dealers.
So we've got these great relationships
with Porsche, Lamborghini, Ferrari, whoever it might be.
So in case we do need assistance, they have the schematics.
They'll call us, they'll send a technician over.
If we need to scan the car.
But yes, we treat each car exactly the same,
whether it's your Jeep or the Bugatti for a disassembly.
We don't want to mess around.
We don't want to get your car back together
where it's creaking and missing hardware.
We've seen too much come in from other shops, unfortunately.
So that process is definitely more thorough and lengthy
for like a vinyl wrap.
So if somebody's listening and they're local
and they're looking for a shop who can do a killer quality job
on PPF or a wrap, how do they find you?
Yeah, so we are online, of course, on our website.
We also have our Instagram account.
We have, we do have YouTube as well.
I need a little bit more time back into that.
And the best way to get ahold of us though
is just give us a call or shoot us an email.
We're here Monday to Friday, 8.30 to 5.30.
I don't have a life outside of this, not just Kyle.
So we're always here.
Every time I hear you're both here,
and I've been here a lot lately.
What's a vacation?
And it's also because as stressful as it is
with the high attention to detail,
I like to say the quantity and the quality
is rewarding to be around this stuff.
So it's protectivefilmsolutions.com?
Correct.
And then from there you can get in contact with you guys
and find all the social stuff.
Well, I appreciate it.
The Jeep looks amazing.
The facility here, you can eat off the floor.
If there's anybody who loves their vehicle,
or, and I know a lot of you guys listening
probably have your sports car or your third car or something.
If you're looking for a shop that you can trust
to take it and protect it, this is the one.
So go ahead and check them out.
Call Jason or Kyle, tell him Sean sent you.
And yeah, it's been a great experience
and looking forward to doing more stuff
with you guys in the future.
I appreciate it, man.
It's, you've got a rad truck
and four or more projects with you.
It was funny, leaving the car show the other day,
everybody had their exhaust on.
I'm like, I can play that game.
Yeah, I can do it.
As you drive off of the curb.
You can't do that over there, right?
I had a couple of people who were like,
oh, I like your wheel placement on the curb.
I'm like, hey man, their show not mine.
It was good.
Yeah, it was good.
That's awesome.
Good to see you, thank you.
Thanks, man.
Thanks again to Jason March and the entire team at PFS
as well as Chris Hardy and Expell.
You guys absolutely rock
and the Jeep has never looked better.
And I feel great taking it off road
and getting some dirt and scratches on it
knowing that the Jeep is fully protected.
So again, if you guys are looking
for some great protection film products,
you wanna go to expell.com.
And if you're local to the Southern California area,
you'll be hard-pressed to find a better shop
than protective film solutions.
And you can ship your car across country
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They do that all the time.
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About this episode
Holman chats with Jason March from Protective Film Solutions about the benefits and technology behind paint protection film (PPF), especially for off-road vehicles. They discuss how PPF keeps vehicles looking clean and protected even after extensive off-roading. Holman also shares his experience installing a Mopar exhaust on his 2025 Jeep Gladiator, enhancing its sound and throttle response. The episode highlights the evolution of PFS into an Expell corporate store and the growing acceptance of PPF in rugged environments, offering practical insights on maintenance and product options.
Dive into various vehicle protection products, such as PPF, windshield film, tint, wraps, and ceramic coatings with Jason March of Protective Film Solutions in Southern California. Hear all about the latest vehicle protection technologies from XPEL and which ones might be right for you. The Truck Show Podcast is produced in partnership with AMSOIL, Kershaw Knives, and OVR Mag. Don't forget to check out truckshowpodcast.com for special offers from our friends and sponsors.
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