[S8, E1] We Are Back & New Cars Are Still Awful!

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Well, we're back.

We're back, mate.

We're in a car, mate.

We're in a car.

Those of you that were previously regular listeners of the podcast, welcome back.

Welcome to a different setup, a different format.

Well, I don't want to scare people.

It's not really a different format.

It's just kind of a different backdrop, basically.

It's still you and I.

It's still us chatting absolute crap.

I like to say nonsense.

Nonsense.

A bit aggressive, mate.

Crap is a bit aggressive.

Yeah.

I think in the years gone by, I have become more aggressive.

You have.

Something I've been working on in my time off.

What, to get more aggressive or less?

Less.

Okay, fine.

I think, unfortunately, you've ruined me.

I've been doing this show.

I've been slowly chipping away.

Slowly chipping away.

I've become a horrible little man.

Horrible big-tole man.

Yeah.

Well, if you are new to the show, if you've seen us promoting the fact that

we're back on other social media platforms, you thought,

oh, I'll finally go and check out what these guys do.

Welcome.

As Tony just clarified in better words than I did,

we get together once a week and talk nonsense.

Nonsense.

Theoretically, nonsense about the car world,

the car industry, motorsport.

I don't know what.

We are often incorrect in some of our...

Well, you are.

I'm not.

Well, there you go.

Yeah, I'm right all the time.

In Tony's mind.

But actually, we are also sometimes right.

As points have been proven, we sometimes make big claims

that people go, what are these guys talking about?

Which months after are proven to be...

Correct.

I would say sometimes it's a bit modest, mate.

More often than not.

Anyway, we took a good chunk of time off over the summer

to reset because we've been doing this podcast for like six years.

Every week, almost.

Every week.

We felt like we've covered every topic,

visited every dream garage, answered every question,

and we felt like we were starting to repeat ourselves.

So we wanted to take some time off

and come back more enthusiastic than ever

because we actually love doing these, don't we?

We actually do.

It's my only time that I actually like talking to you.

Yeah, well, okay.

On that note, the whole reason this show began

is because Tony and I were having these like hour

or two hour long conversations on the phone

each week about car stuff.

Absolutely rambling on.

And I basically turned around one day and said,

we should record this.

Like this should be a show.

Just put a camera on.

Yeah, yeah.

But then over the years, because it became a bit more of a job

and we took it a bit more seriously,

we actually stopped having those conversations.

We did.

And the only time we would go back

and chat crap about cars was when we were in a car together.

Yeah.

When we were doing road trips or adventures,

doing one of our on-the-road driving tours.

So part of the reformatting of the show

is to do more episodes in cars.

In a car, yeah.

So if you are in a car and thinking,

oh, what does that all mean?

Nothing.

It's the same show it was before.

Just a couple of times a month it will be in a car.

Sometimes we'll talk about the car we're in.

Sometimes we won't.

Sometimes we'll react to what's going on outside.

Sometimes we won't.

If you listen to us,

you shouldn't really hopefully notice much of a difference.

We'll still be just talking as if you were listeners.

If you are watching,

you might get a heightened experience,

but I don't.

I don't really think I'll get much of a...

What you could do if you really wanted to,

you could listen to us first and then go,

oh, wonder what they're up to.

Nothing can watch it on YouTube.

You've become such a good podcast promoter.

I love that from you.

But yeah, essentially most of the time

you'll be listening, watching,

doing whatever to the usual behind-the-glass show.

Hopefully slightly improved.

Hopefully we're just better because of experience.

Yeah.

We can't promise it.

We hope.

However, intertwined with that usual format,

we are bringing in a few new sort of formats,

a few new themes.

Does intertwined mean linked?

No, it means...

No.

It means like a load of...

Together?

No.

Well, yes.

In between the usual episodes,

intertwined, woven in there,

like a sewing stitch on a leather steering wheel.

Because I don't...

I think sometimes you use these big words.

I don't really think you know what they mean.

No, I don't.

I...

Really, you've summed me up very well.

It's not just words.

It's also saying.

But the key is say with confidence, Tony.

Right.

Speak with confidence.

Intertwined.

It sounded right, didn't it?

Well, I don't know what it means.

Yeah, I don't know what it means.

That one I backed myself.

I know that it was the correct one.

Anyway, so what those formats will be,

how that will work, you will find out.

So for example, next week's episode

will be one of these new styles of show.

Again, it's all gonna...

It's sort of pumping this up to PR it.

It's essentially behind the glass.

We haven't gone anywhere.

Not much has changed.

Nothing's changed.

We're just sort of, you know, trying to spice things up.

And anyway, today to bring us back,

we are out in one of Tony's stock cars.

It's just come in.

It's not even advertised.

It's not even been cleaned yet, mate.

What is this?

It's a Mercedes C-class.

How can I help?

Oh, no.

I'm sorry.

Oh, no.

Stop!

Go away.

She's gone?

Not yet.

I'm sorry.

But I can't help you with that right now.

No problem.

So that means we can't say the make of this car.

Okay, fine.

Well, we're gonna come back to that.

You got it.

Yeah.

It's a C-200.

Okay.

A state.

Used to be called events.

Let's see.

Yeah.

The maker of this car used to call them events?

Yeah.

Was that not an Audi thing?

Yeah.

An Audi as well.

Yeah.

Well, let's say Audi, aren't we?

Did they not call them wagons?

I think you're wrong there.

Am I?

Was it not?

First time ever.

Let's do some on-the-fly research.

If you have been missing the show, you'll know.

You'll know.

Live research on topics that we're talking about is a theme of the show.

Because we don't really know what we're discussing.

But hopefully we're reflecting similar conversations that you would have with your friends.

We do not claim, or Tony claims to be an expert.

We do not claim to be an expert.

We are just talking crap about cars.

Oh, I'll tell you what it is.

Avan is Audi.

Yes.

It was Avangard.

And that was a spec level.

Yes.

And now...

Oh my God, I'm so glad I've got something right.

Yeah.

Station wagon.

Yes.

Oh, what a positive way to return that I've got a fact correct.

And put me in my place.

Wonderful.

Well, yes.

I don't have a lot to say.

I mean, if you're interested in this car, it's sort of nice.

No, hold on a minute.

Hold on a minute.

Sorry.

Yeah, it's a lovely, lovely car.

It's a premium plus.

So it's got all the options on it.

It's a hybrid.

It's lovely.

It's a little bit uncomfortable.

I can't get my seat rid of that.

Cell, cell, cell.

Yeah, but apart from that, I really like it, mate.

It should have been 50-odd grand of this car.

You've become a better dealer in the time taken off.

Because previously you used to slag off your own stock.

You'd be like, why on earth did you buy a car from this one?

At least now you're half talking those things about what you're trying to sell.

Well, actually, let's just dive straight into it.

Because this is an important topic, which we've been talking about for years.

But I want to expand on, which is, yes, tech, et cetera.

Because we just had it.

We were interrupted by the super annoying theoretical onboard.

What would you even call that?

Not a butler.

It's theoretically computer.

And one experience the other day, I got lent the new Aston Martin DBXS.

DBXS?

Well, ooh, do you know what that is?

Well, it must be, it must be, what's the really, oh, 707 is the fast one.

Right.

So is it the one down from that?

No, it's the one up.

It's gone up.

This is.

So I drove 707 at the start of the year and loved it.

Right.

And said this is what the DBX should have always been.

And they'd got rid of the standard car.

So now there's an S. So now this is the top.

I think is the most powerful combustion engine SUV in the world.

Wow.

So it sits above and it's noticeably.

Oh, can I say, can I say, I think it's embarking.

It's not.

It's the first car.

Anyway, I've really, I've talked about stats.

That's fine.

I'm allowed to do that.

Are you?

And I think I'm allowed to talk about this.

Who cares?

You know what?

Who cares?

Do you know when something's embargoed?

Yes.

Do you actually have to sign a bit of paper?

Oh, yes.

And it's like really serious stuff like you're in trouble if you say something.

If I, if you ever saw the Ferrari paperwork you have to assign for it, you would think

you're signing paperwork to enter North Korea.

Really?

I am often terrified when I'm asked to sign.

I think I'm signing off in my house.

There is, what is this by the way?

Hold on a sec.

Let's reference something outside.

So is that an old MR2, like a Mark II MR2?

I say modified in fast and furious style.

With a huge aerial.

A huge aerial.

A pink rear wing.

A female drive.

That caught my eye.

Yeah.

It was interesting, wasn't it?

Yep.

So yes, let's move on from embargoed content.

The DBXS had this insane computer brain behind the rear view mirror.

Here?

Here.

So much so, I could barely see out of the windscreen.

It was literally like an old, do you remember like old Dell desktop, you know, proper desktop

computer bricks.

Computer.

Mate, it was this huge black box behind the rear view mirror.

It had little things looking at me, which I guess were like reading my eyes or something.

It like, it just housed so much of the onboard systems.

Oh.

The smart driving and the A desk and whatever.

I couldn't see out of the windscreen.

Yeah.

Them systems really annoy me.

It's happening more and more though than not only the systems growing, which we can

talk about, but that people are using this space behind the rear view mirror to

house them in.

Yeah.

They've got radars and distant guided cruise control stuff like that.

And I mean, you can't see out.

It's so dangerous.

Well, that's been happening.

I mean, this is a 2020 free car and this has got a, you know, they've all got cameras

and radars for brain sensors and, you know, lane assist and all that.

It's all in the windscreen now.

It's all in the cameras.

But now you're right.

The later stuff has now got like driver monitoring and all that nonsense.

And I know this because I just bought my girlfriend a new Lexus, which is a very

lovely little car.

Interesting.

And it's got a sensor right in the middle of the steering wheel.

So when you drive it, if you like look away or look to chat, your passenger, it

literally big message on the screen, driver, take a break or driver, look what

you're doing and all that nonsense.

I literally have to go at you and bleeps and if you cover your hand, like

you move your hand around your face, don't you, as you're driving?

I guess, do you?

Sometimes I have a little scratch or something, you know what I mean?

You're looking like Mime artistry.

Well, it depends who's annoyed me.

I'm driving alone.

And it bleeps and it's really annoying.

And it's really hard to turn it all off.

You can turn it all off, but there's like three or four different menus you have

to go and turn it off.

And then you have to do it as you know now with a modern car every time

your bloody start the thing back up, you've got to do it again.

Every single time.

And some manufacturers are definitely better than others.

But yeah, the driver monitoring thing, I thought it was an Aston Martin

press team thing initially.

I was like, oh, they're watching and they're listening.

I hadn't experienced this kind of driver focused.

Oh, it's a pre-production car.

They're still doing some testing on it.

It was such a weird and invading and all.

Yeah, I know we've spoken about it.

I know a lot of people are mentioning it, but this new era, new age,

it makes for me new cars less and less attractive.

Yeah, I agree.

And we were speaking about that at the end of last series

or last season, whatever we're going to call it.

But I then also went to Munich ahead of IAA.

I rented a new A5 station wagon.

Yeah.

A5 Avant.

And I thought, what a good looking car.

I was really excited.

That's going to be amazing.

Very good looking car.

Didn't love it inside.

A lot of screens, different screens.

Yeah, I love it inside.

But anyway, cool thing.

Driving down the road and it did one of those ADAS emergency stops.

So dangerous.

Because it picked up on a car that was parked on the road

but wasn't perfectly in its parking space.

And it stand on the brakes.

So dangerous.

In the middle of town.

So dangerous, mate.

And so I'm like, well, I would just go back

and buy a three or four year old A4 Avant instead.

Yeah.

Like, what is the motivation?

Do you think, or have you experienced,

I know you don't do too many of the new new cars.

Are you seeing people coming to you for older stuff

because new stuff is putting them off?

Or is this us as enthusiasts?

Like, does the average punter care as much?

We're not seeing it yet.

Because it's really like too early.

It's only really been the last year

where this ADAS thing has really kicked in.

And it really so, you know, we are,

we're going to see it soon.

But I think at the moment it's an enthusiast thing

because some people, mate, like, you know when you,

you know the quality of, like, people's driving now.

I always think it's a control thing.

I think it's all about control.

It's all about honour and suing.

Okay.

Which is why we have electric cars.

But also as well, like the standard of driving

in this country now is nowhere near what it used to be.

And probably because there's too many cars on the road nowadays.

Too many cars or too many systems

meaning people don't have to think when they drive?

Mate, probably a bit of both.

But there's too much traffic, as we know.

There's too many cars.

There's too many people that, you know, can't drive.

There's no room.

Everyone's got the amp.

And you know, it's a problem.

Let me dive into your conspiracy theory a bit more,

which I'm not even sure is a conspiracy theory.

So the control element.

Who's controlling us?

The governments.

All of them?

And I think that's why, honestly, I'm not just saying this.

No, no, I'm interested.

I think this is why they all want us in electric cars.

Because?

Because of control.

You can't control a combustion car,

apart from the ADAS systems.

But you go, you like the combustion car.

You can't an electric car.

In the sense of you think they'll start

turning the electric cars off so we can't go anywhere?

Or where do you see this leading?

In your worst case scenario, what happens?

What do the governments do?

You know what?

I see a future where we're all going to be bloody driving

down the road on the M25.

Right, the traffic's going to slow down

and they're going to turn all the cars down.

They're all going to be electric.

Right.

And we're not going to do it anymore.

Right.

They're going to turn and they're going to control

the flow of the traffic.

They'll control everything.

They know exactly where we are.

Do you not agree?

No.

Am I talking nonsense?

No, no, no.

I really don't think you are.

Oh, I'm less...

You're laughing at me.

Yeah, a little bit.

I'm less pessimistic about it.

Like, I see where you're coming from

and I wonder if this is one of the few examples

where generationally we're a little different.

Maybe I'm more accepting of, you know...

Yeah, I've seen a bit more than you.

Well, you were alive before.

The spies.

Yeah.

When Cole was around.

Yeah, exactly.

Not the name, the product.

My mum is always freaked out by CCTV.

Yeah.

And I'm a bit like...

But it's just there.

I've never known a world without CCTV.

I agree with her.

So I think I see where you're coming from,

but are you more...

So are you fearful...

And, okay, two questions.

Why is it bad if they slow you down?

Like, what if they're controlling your speed?

I know the answer, but I'm just asking you.

And secondly, do you not...

Are you not aware that with your phone,

all of your information and all that stuff

is already being taken?

Of course.

Yeah.

Yeah, I completely understand.

Is it bad they're slowing you down?

No, but the bad bit is the control bit.

You know, the whole thing about having a car

is about having independence and do what you like,

go where you like.

But yeah, you're right.

You know, we carry this computer

in our pocket nowadays that literally

tells you everywhere where you are,

where you've been, where you're going.

Have you ever read the T's and C's

of the Facebook app?

I don't have Facebook.

Oh, what's a revelation?

Okay, when you download...

Should I?

No.

When you download an app,

do you ever read the T's and C's?

No.

Exactly.

Do you?

No.

But if you did, it would be...

Horrifying.

Yes.

I mean, you own nothing.

All of this is now ours and China's.

Anyway, so I don't know

I'm absolutely digging out China,

but I think...

Not even their fault probably.

But yeah, I think...

Yes.

Okay, so again,

I don't want to get into a therapy session.

We can save that for after the podcast,

but it could be a reflection

a little bit more of your control.

Like, how are you with authority in general?

How are you at school?

Terrible.

Yes.

If a teacher said,

no, Anthony, do this...

Are you still completely opposite?

Yeah, burn school down.

And when I was a bus driver,

I used to literally do...

Make up the route yourself.

And I did.

Did you?

Honestly, mate,

I literally sometimes used to just

go off route and go somewhere else.

Seriously, I did.

Driving in London now is worse than ever.

Correct.

You know, congestion,

bus lanes, cycle lanes,

all the sort of things that

Salih Khan has done over the last

god knows how many years

to make driving in that city

a nightmare,

which was his aim.

He has achieved his aim

of it is horrible to drive in that city.

Yeah.

But bus drivers seem to always,

you know,

accelerate into you.

Yeah.

Accelerate into smaller gaps.

Yeah.

Use their weight,

their size.

If it was a Formula One race,

they would be...

At the front?

No.

They would be disqualified

or at least be getting,

you know, grid penalties constantly

because they don't even have

a front wing in front.

Like, I'll have a bus,

two cars behind me,

approaching the corner

and literally just launch it

knowing that I'm going to

have to go out of the way.

Yeah, fair.

And that's what I get wound up at.

And that's again

why we go back

to talking about

standard of driving.

Because at least

when I was back then

20-odd years ago,

you had like proper,

like,

multiple tests

before you could actually get

your license.

I think it's probably

very easy for them now.

They go round the bloody

not go round the block,

but you know what I mean?

Yeah.

They sit one test

because even I've seen it.

You know, sometimes,

I don't get on a bus anymore,

but I've seen them drive around

and you think like,

how have you got a license, mate?

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Well, or yeah,

exactly how are you getting away

with some of the...

Yeah.

But you're right.

I mean, if I had to drive a bus

all day every day,

I'd probably also get aggravated

by...

You'd be a visual man.

Yeah, exactly.

And especially if I'm like

sauntering around in a GT3,

I think I'd go out the way.

Yeah, literally, yeah.

Oh, it's worth.

Well, look,

let's move on from

state of driving and tech

because it's the point that

again, we banged on about

plenty.

And talk about cars, mate,

because holy crap,

I was looking,

the amount of things

that have happened

whilst we've been off air

have been outrageous.

So let's...

The world's changed, mate.

The world has changed.

Yeah.

It's actually...

I've even grown a little bit.

Yeah, I can't keep up.

I've had a lot of therapy.

Anyway,

so,

I thought I'd run through a few

of the,

I think at least the ones

that stood out to me.

First we have to talk about

there's a new Ferrari.

I mean, ridiculous.

Fast one?

Well, yeah.

So the 849 Testarossa,

it's the SF90 replacement.

Did you look at it?

I get so annoyed

when they bring the old

names back.

Yeah.

Don't you?

I do.

I leave it alone.

I do it.

Do it properly.

Like make a Renault 5.

Yeah.

Do you know what I mean?

Like if you're going to

make a Testarossa,

make a proper Testarossa,

the thing is though,

I believe that this is,

and we've maybe mentioned this

or I have on the main channel,

this is the move

for manufacturers, right?

Is heritage.

Because as these cars

become more and more generic,

more and more similar

to each other,

they're harder and harder

to get any emotion out of.

Yeah.

Or they can,

you know, pull

on our heart strings.

Yeah.

They can bring back old names,

old styling cues,

whatever it might be.

Designed.

It makes us go,

oh, that's like this

and that's why I'm going to go

and buy it.

Because otherwise,

they are all microwaves

on wheels,

even high-level Ferraris.

But I think they're getting

it wrong because

Renault really are the only

ones that are actually

staying true to that heritage

or understanding the heritage

or what the appeal is.

They're...

Well, Fiat done it with a 500.

Very good point,

but did the 500 ever change?

It's been the 500

for donkeys, hasn't it?

Yeah.

I mean,

if Renault were to bring

a petrol version back,

it still would have been,

you know,

just a newer petrol.

That wouldn't have changed,

but...

I just mean in times of design.

Design.

Design and naming.

If you...

It's like the Ford Capri.

Doesn't look any better.

Well, it returned as a crossover.

Yeah.

An electric crossover.

We're not idiots, people.

Yeah.

Stop treating us like idiots.

Yeah.

It's not a Capri.

Yeah.

Because I was saying,

and I saw a few people,

I think even Spike,

everyone asked us to show in America,

was like,

oh, I think it looks like a Tester-Ross.

I was like...

I'd just go...

I'd just make savers with you, Spike.

But maybe,

maybe, mate, as well,

like we have to be a bit mindful

that maybe it's not aimed at us,

you know,

like it's aimed at the future generation

that,

you know,

they just see it as a car.

They just see it as a product.

If that were true,

why use the Tester-Rosser name?

Because they've used the Tester-Rosser name

because they know the product might be aimed

at newer generation of Ferrari customers,

and they've gone,

would you have to still sell them?

So to appeal to our old guard,

let's bring back the Tester-Rosser name.

Yeah.

Let's make a modern car

but give it an old name

so it appeals for both audiences.

When I went to the Amalfi unveiling,

that was literally my sort of thought,

was that,

you know,

they kept saying in one breath,

they were like,

this car is more accessible than ever.

Easier to drive than ever,

easier to live than ever.

This is your entry Ferrari

in a way that no entry Ferrari

has ever existed before.

Right.

But it's also sportier

and better to drive

and firmer and harder

because I think they realise

it has to appeal to us

Ferrari purists, enthusiasts

that want a Ferrari.

I'm sorry,

exactly the same as the previous one.

Yeah.

It is a Roma.

Yeah.

But we are going to

give it a different name.

An old calling.

Yeah.

Is that the new Roma?

No, it's the Amalfi.

That was literally my question

in the press conference.

I put my little hand up.

Excuse me.

Considering that

everyone's going to call this

the new Roma,

why did you not just call it

the Roma M?

They all went there.

Did you get chucked out?

Yeah, they were like,

oh, this guy.

This guy.

I haven't been invited

to brush drive.

Anyway, so 8.9 Testarossa.

1036 horsepower,

50 horsepower,

more than the SF90.

Cool story.

Cool story, bro.

062, 2.3 seconds.

Name the Testarossa

to celebrate the 70th

anniversary of the 500 TL.

Again, you're on stretch.

Fiorano lap time,

1.5 seconds quicker

than the SF90.

That is a very short lap,

so fine.

It's actually quite fun.

Yeah, that's quite fun.

And then prices are going to be

basically half a mile.

Start.

Yeah.

Start.

Yeah, 460,000 euros.

Plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus.

This is the biggest problem I have.

I mean, modern cars in general,

mate, this is the biggest

problem I have now.

And I know the world's moved on,

but the price hikes

in the last five or six years

have been like nothing

I've ever seen before

in the 20-odd years

when I've been doing my job.

It's like insane

some of the price hikes.

Yes.

And I'm with you

and maybe that's worth

speaking more about.

But I'm also just like,

this is supposed to be the flagship.

This is supposed to be

the flagship for us, right?

This is supposed to be...

What is that, mate?

There's a car transporter with it.

Mate, there's a Huracan on there.

Is there?

Yeah.

Nice one.

It's a blue Technica.

Right.

Do you want to spin back round?

Yeah.

And I think as well,

I think I saw McLaren

in there as well.

They cast a big red car transporter

unloading some vehicles

to a vitally nondescript address, right?

Yeah.

And then...

Red L'Ollier Malloy.

Can you say that?

Spin around.

I'm going to.

I'm excited.

Back to my old car spotting ways.

There could be a Laferrari in there, mate.

Well, my point being...

There's Laferrari in there, mate.

The price hikes are huge,

but if a Revuelto

is similar kind of money,

for their top-level heavy-hitter,

you know, baby hypercar,

half a mil, I don't know,

it's worrying that I think that

makes sense.

More so though,

looking at it and reading about it,

I certainly think the SF90

looks even more incredible

than it ever did.

Given its value,

what are they now?

275, 28?

Something like that, yeah.

And I think it's a more

classic design.

Yeah.

Something like,

hey, give me an SF90.

OK, wait.

We are re-approaching

the transporter.

The Laferrari.

Look, that is a blue

technical, right?

Yes.

Blue Huracan technical.

There is a McLaren

on the lower level.

No, 600 LT.

Is it?

Hold on.

Where are they going, mate?

Where are they going?

Where have they been?

It is an industrial estate there, mate.

Yeah.

600 LT.

Something else.

Is there something else up there?

What is in there?

Car wrapping specialist.

There you go.

Oh, there you go.

And a shout-out to Russell's

automotive...

Vehicle management.

Vehicle management logistics.

You've just got some free promo.

You look at it doing well.

Well...

Are you turning around again?

No, no.

I'm not that enthusiastic.

OK.

Thank you.

Anyway, so, yeah,

I'm like...

Ah.

Yeah, fair.

I agree with you, mate.

It's not done a lot for me.

Do you know?

It's been such a big Ferrari fan that I...

And I really like modern cars as well.

Obviously, you know.

Yeah.

And I'm going to say about Porsche as well.

There's really not at the moment a modern Porsche

or Ferrari that I actually want.

Really?

No.

There's not.

Like, if I was to have another Ferrari...

Yeah.

...now today...

Yeah.

Go buy one new.

No.

As in, like, to order from the factory?

No.

You wouldn't pick one?

No.

The only car new Porsche that I might consider,

I probably wouldn't buy it.

It's a free RS.

I probably wouldn't buy it because I don't see...

No.

You know, if you use it for a tour,

it's usually just because you've got no space.

Yeah.

You know.

So how much better on the road is it going to be

than our cars to warrant the...

What?

75 grand?

100.

100 grand?

Yeah.

You know.

The two current cars that I would buy at the moment

is a GT2 RS.

Okay.

Like a 2018 car.

18 car, yeah.

Well, that's seven years old.

I mean, that's, like, bloody donkeys years old for me.

Yeah.

But that's the only Porsche that I actually want

at the moment.

And if I had to go and buy another Ferrari,

I'd buy another Pista.

Would you buy a new Lamborghini?

Would you buy a Temurario?

No.

I really want to drive that Temurario,

but I don't think I'd buy it.

If I, you know, if we're talking about,

I mean, you know, we've got all the money.

Let's pretend we all got all the money.

I'm opposite to you.

I would buy a Revuelto.

I'm very interested.

Would you?

Yeah.

I would buy a Revuelto.

They don't buy it.

Well, apparently not.

Yeah, that's the one.

Well, they don't.

But the one that I drove did,

and it was wonderful.

It was the most, for me, the best Lamborghini

that...

You really liked it?

Yeah, I really, really liked it.

Wow.

Temurario I'm interested by.

I really, really loved that car.

I quite like an Amalfi.

Whip around in.

I wouldn't buy a 296 now.

I did at one point think I would,

but I wouldn't buy a 296.

Wouldn't buy a Speciale.

296 Speciale.

So, yeah, for Ferrari, it's dodgy

and an Amalfi, probably.

Oh, I can think of another Ferrari

I'd buy, actually.

What car?

I'd buy the competition.

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So that's not, you can't buy that? No, no, no. Sorry, okay.

I said I'd only buy, there's only one for our, I'd buy the, money, no objects, I'd buy the

A12 Composites, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I really like that car. I drove that car.

What, sorry about that. We put it on record in episode as I drove it, I drove it in New York.

And how'd you get on? I loved it. Did you love it?

Unbelievable, but I told you it's good, didn't I? But you need to like really get into it.

Yes, it doesn't have the same fizz as you get, I think in other special fry models straight away.

Yeah, but once you start going, oh my God, and I really went, that was one of the best days.

You should go flat out. Oh my God, there's been two experiences like this in my life.

The first was in New Zealand, many, many years ago with an unbelievable friend of mine,

how I'm trying to get down to revisit. And it was the 918 and the 911R. And I've said the

story 70 times before where he threw me in the car and said, follow me, turned out

it was driveway and went flat. I was like, okay, I'll try.

Was she in the 911R or the 918? We did a swap round.

Swap round. So he was in the 911R and I was in the 918. He said, follow me. And I was like, okay.

And then this was the 812 company journey and an SVJ. He said, follow me and I will say there

were triple digits on the speedo. And I was like, oh my God, unbelievable. Yeah, very cool car.

And then from a Porsche point of view, mate, there's still lots of Porsches I would buy.

I would, I would have a 992.2 GT3. I'd have a, can you still buy STs? I don't know if you can.

New Turbo S. Let's talk about that in two seconds. I'd buy, I'd buy an electric

McCann. Like, there's still lots of, so I'm not as well. I'd buy 918.

I'm not as, yeah, that's like an old car. I still like cars basically is what I'm trying to say.

Okay. So moving on from disappointing Ferraris, let's talk about the Turbo S for a second

because obviously that one, the new one, the new one came out. It's got the,

the T-hypersystem we saw on the GTS, but two basically. And actually really interesting take.

I do think Porsche are, I mean, welcome back to the Porsche fanboy podcast,

being unbelievably clever with the way that they are sort of abiding by regulations but still finding

ways to make the cars perform. And did you see the fact that it's not just the fact that

they've got these new, this new T-hypersystem that they're slightly different actual

turbos and the smaller scrolls that they can spin up fast, like all this stuff,

which I think is just, there's really clever stuff. Yeah, they really are using tech to try and,

because obviously what they're trying to do as well, they're trying to keep the weight off,

aren't they? Well, yeah, that's another big thing. That's a big problem when you start

hybrid in like properly hybrid and stuff, you know. Well, and, and even though they've got

tiny bachelor on there, which is performance related, not, you know, e-driving or missions

related, it's just purely performance related. The other thing which people aren't really

talking about, which I learned at the GT3 launch, was the added weight that all of these new

regulations add, so not just in terms of componentry, because you've got your various, you know,

what's called mufflers, what's the stuff? Yeah, on the DPS. Thank you. All the filters

and all that kind of stuff. But also side impact. You told me about it. Yeah, so the doors are

heavier. Yeah. Because the side impact rating. Because the doors are heavy. So the overall cars

are just heavier in so many ways. What's the weight in the new Turbo S? Do you know?

Let's see if it's been revealed. I am hopefully going to be driving that car

in about a month or so, which will be very exciting. It's obviously going to be good.

It's obviously going to be spectacular if not too fast. They're saying it's got a

car weight of 1725. So about 100 kilos heavier than the old car.

Than the old car. Roughly. Yeah, and some of the stats look outrageous.

I am of course excited. It's a new sort of Haylark car. Turbo S has been one of those models

that you can't be excited about. But at the same time, it's not like I'm not going into it

thinking I'm going to go, I need one of these. I think it's going to be really impressive.

Well, what will be interesting, because I think when you first drove the Turbo S,

the one that I have, you know, the 992.1, you was like fairly early in your horse love affair.

Yes, good point. Now you are fully like in life. So it'll be very interesting

whether you say anything horrible or negative about that car at all,

or whether you're just going to be really, really nice about it.

Well, I think I would hope you would know. I would immediately say something horrible if there

was something horrible to be said. I think you're a horrible little man. I know you would.

But you're right. Have the rose-tinted glasses of Porsche, you know,

spoiled my ability to spot potential. Yes, that's what I mean.

I mean, it's bloody expensive. Talking about price tags, let's go back to that point,

starting at £199,000 in this country. Yes, that's going to be like $230,000, isn't it?

Which, so remind me, you also, we should touch on the fact that you've ordered 992.1 Turbo S.

None of us can keep up with Tony's car buying and selling, so.

I'm going to keep this for a while. Sure.

No, I will, mate. Because I sold the M3. People don't know.

Yeah, people don't know you sold the M3. Sold the M3.

And the Spyder RS. And the Spyder RS.

Because I didn't like the Spyder RS.

Yeah. And so the Turbo S theoretically replaces both of those.

Correct.

Man, maths. Yeah.

Until in three months' time, you go, I think I want...

No, but I don't, mate, I don't want it.

Okay. I just don't have, even though we've taken a break,

because we've been speaking offline, I don't have the energy to go through those

if I'm honest. Let's see. If you have the car in March, great. Let's catch up.

No, no. I will have it in March.

Okay. Because if anything's going to go, it'll be the GC3.

Because I've had that two. Really?

Yeah, because I've had it two and a half years now.

And if I'm going to replace anything, it'll be that.

And to be fair, you've barely driven that car, because you've been so busy.

Yeah. Because then you haven't done all your Nürburgring days.

Yeah. And then the Tours, you've used other things.

Yeah. I mean, I will... If I don't see it next year,

I'll use it a bit more next year and I'll do a tour in it.

But, yeah, if anything's going to go at some point, it will be that car

and I'll replace it with something else. Maybe a GC2.

Oh, gosh. You've really got Larry in the last few months.

But, yeah, I mean, so what's that price? I respect the spec.

If you're saying a 230...

30 grand difference. 35 grand difference.

Which actually might be less than some of the other hikes we've seen.

Or it feels like it might be less than some of the other hikes we've seen.

Yeah. What is that? A 15% increase?

Well, you're better at maths than me, surprisingly.

Yeah. Amazing, isn't it?

Amazing, yeah. So, yeah, let's wait and see.

Some other new cars that have come out there was that weird Lamborghini

phenomenon, which was at Car Week, which is there.

What is that, mate? It's a Revuelto with a body kit.

They call it some of, not one of.

What was that Aventador body kit one they did that was really Larry?

Revuelto. No. Reventon. Reventon.

Reventon. Yeah, it follows in on that line.

Fine. BYD Yang Wang U9 Extreme.

Is that that fast? Came the world's fastest production car at 308 miles an hour.

Does anyone care about that?

A few of our friends do, apparently.

Really? Well, I saw some reels.

Okay. So... Some reels!

Yeah, I saw some reels on the line.

So, yeah, there you go.

Yang Wang. We love Yang Wang, don't we?

This is so fun to say.

Can you imagine rocking up? It's that old Top Gear line.

Imagine going to the pub.

Here we go.

Because it doesn't look awful if you've seen it.

I know it's coming in.

But if you've seen it, it doesn't actually look awful the Yang Wang.

Well, look, it's quite a good-looking car.

Yeah, but all right then, right?

So you pull up in that car, right, to your mate's to a party.

Yeah, I go, you pull up.

What's that, a new McLaren?

I've got a well-wrecked car.

Yeah, you go out.

Oh, mate, it's amazing.

New Ferrari? What is it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Can I have a listen?

No, no.

Yeah, can I have a listen?

Reve it up.

Okay, your point is different to mine.

Valid point.

Yeah, yeah.

I think more so.

Oh, no, no, no.

It's the Yang Wang Unite.

Extreme.

Yeah, it's really, really, really extreme.

You can't hear it, but it's the fastest car in the world.

Yes, and it's called the Yang Wang.

Yeah, but don't you think the fastest car in the world

should bloody still have guns and an engine and roar?

I don't think any of the cars have got guns.

I mean, yeah, but I also just don't care, mate.

About what?

The fastest car in the world.

Being electric.

No, just being the fastest car in the world.

I don't care, because like, I would buy Bugatti Chiron.

I don't need the Super Sport.

Okay, fine.

And that's a lie.

I might buy this to people, but I'm not buying it to go 306 miles an hour or whatever.

Do you know what I mean?

Fair enough.

Like, that record, it's a bit like a NURBOG.

Wait, I don't know because I just put the project to English.

Because it's not a NURBOG.

I'm talking absolutely.

That is literally, I remember as well that when you bought that car,

you literally said I want that car because it got the NURBOG on record.

Because I know how much you have that place.

I didn't buy it.

You know what I caught myself doing, which I really despise,

is when people are like, oh, I didn't really get it.

But I say, I had the NURBOG ring record.

I keep using it.

It's like a way to quantify how good it is.

And I catch myself thinking, but I don't care about the NURBOG ring.

But I just think, imagine, you know, people buy that because you get

dripped out in Porsche merch to be like, I'm a Porsche owner,

or Ferrari, or my Ferrari capper I go, you know.

If you walk a Yang-Wang t-shirt, people would think you're saying something rude.

I just can't deal with the Yang-Wanging.

The Yang-Wanging.

But it is quite a cool name.

So much fun to say.

Yeah.

The U9 Extreme bit's a bit cringe.

But anyway, go Yang-Wang.

Well done. 308.4 miles an hour.

Miles an hour.

496 kilometers.

And how quickly do they have to charge?

Was that like?

No idea.

Because that's an interesting thing to do.

That's an interesting thing to do.

The headlight figures.

Oh, talking about charging.

And electric cars.

What about the iX3?

Oh, mate.

I'm glad you brought that up.

I want one.

So do I.

A mega thing.

Yeah.

And I really think that's good.

Do you remember, as we said about two years ago,

if Land Rover brings a Range Rover out that does 500 mile range,

electric, I'll have it.

Yeah.

And it's coming.

Well, BMW with the iX3 are the first to have that as an official claimed figure,

I think.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We've been getting close with the later generation Taycan

and what else has had some big figures,

some of the EQ range from this manufacturer?

Yeah, yeah.

Like, so anyway, some stuff has been getting into the 400s.

But the Tesla's as well, by the way.

They have quite big range.

Of course.

Good point.

But yes, BMW with the iX3, the first with this 500 claim,

I believe could be one of them.

And I like the styling.

It's the first of this Neuer-class look.

I think it looks boxy and cool.

I like the interior.

Some of it's a little bit aggressively futuristic,

but I think we'll get used to that in time to come.

Now pricing, again, look, I don't think it's horrific.

People might win here, but I expect one up sort of 65 odd grand,

which, OK, given what we know about electric cars,

it makes you win a bit.

But as a regular X3 purchaser.

It's not too bad.

For M40i, M40D variants, it's kind of where you are.

And even the old iX3s were 55ish,

and they were always a little bit, you know.

I expected you.

I didn't know the price.

I expected you to say 80, then.

Yeah.

Well, I expect one up 65, like, and nicely,

like not really holding back.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, of course.

Well, they must be getting there, then.

Well, I think so.

I mean, of course, I'm sure you could

on loads more bits and history shows us or suggests

that they're going to plummet in value.

But as an entry point, and I think

price per month, that was,

it was a blow at grand a month as well, financing.

Yeah, but that's still quite a lot of money

for a 65 grand car, mate.

That's the world we live in now, isn't it?

Like, that's how much cars cost to finance these days.

It's not just that.

It's the end payments that's the problem still

with electric cars.

So then the banks are still a load more braver

on combustion cars with residual values

as opposed to what they are with electric cars.

Right.

So the end payment on electric cars is still horrendous.

But obviously once-

Sorry, in the sense of what do you mean by that?

Well, in the sense of because there's no used market for them.

So they put the value down very low

or you get in negative activity?

Yeah, so they put the value down very low

and you pay more per month because of that.

Right.

Because if they're PCP, if they're guaranteed values,

which is the only way you'd want to buy one anyway,

so you know you can end it back.

The bank don't want to be lumbered

with a bit of metal, do they?

Okay.

Like, to put it into context,

the banks, the last thing they want is the car back.

They don't want the car back.

Sure.

They want to get rid of the car.

They want you to have it.

They want their money back.

They're not car dealers.

They're banks.

Okay.

They lend against the asset.

They depreciate an asset.

So it's always calculated on a combustion car.

It's a lot easier to calculate that figure

because we've been making them for 100 years

and the trend is the trend.

There's a used market for them.

Mm-hmm.

Electric car, there still isn't a great used market

on electric cars.

Okay.

So they're still sort of half fingered at that.

Correct.

Well, I don't know.

I'm very excited by that iX3.

Obviously, the bit where I sort of go,

before I sort of launch an order one,

is the knowledge and the thought

that it does still come with all the stuff

we talked about at the start of the episode,

the crappy test.

Yeah, you know that stuff.

And that's what's so frustrating is that

I sort of get half excited and think,

that can actually fit my lifestyle pretty perfectly.

It looks great.

But I'm then going to have to put up with all the new car tech.

But do you know what?

On the flip side,

I think I would be less bothered

in an electric car to have all the ADAS systems

because I think an electric car also

makes you drive a lot more calmer

and a lot more sensibly.

Based on a few Uber rides, I disagree.

But go on.

Yeah, so this has got to use this car as an example, right?

If this was an electric car now,

we'd be driving it at the same speed.

And it's had the lane assist pulling me around.

But if this was a proper AMG thing now,

a C63, it would piss me off.

Yeah.

It's not been pissing me off

that it's been driving itself, basically.

We're just having a nice chat.

We're doing the 40 mile an hour.

Because this isn't an enthusiast car.

No.

This is a normal car.

Sure.

Right?

So if this was electric, I'd be less bothered

about it pulling me around.

Because I'm just having a nice, don't just drive it

nice and not a normal human being, not a yelp.

Yeah, maybe.

Maybe.

But for me, I don't, it's not the bonging

and the lane assisting and all that stuff,

which it's the safety systems that scare me.

When they slam the brakes on.

Yes.

Right.

Ba-ba-ba.

You know, that stuff really freaks me out.

Yeah.

And that's something happening in a moment

where you really don't need or want it to happen.

And then what comes from it?

I mean, you know, I had it with my daughter in the car

and it scared the absolute bejesus out of her.

Yeah.

You know, so.

Yeah.

Anyway, yes.

Let's wait and see.

I mean, BMW making moves.

Yeah.

Well, they're making moves.

And to stick up for BMW, we had a new shaped JCW Minion stock.

Yeah.

Well, yeah.

Yeah, we just literally just sold it, which is a year old.

So it had all the ADES stuff,

which was actually very easy to turn off.

Yes.

There's one button.

You go into a menu.

You press the things off.

So that's BMW.

Yeah.

So, you know, as long as the menus are easy enough to turn off,

I'm like my girlfriend's Lexus where they're not easy to turn off.

Interesting.

Which Lexus is it by the way?

It's an LBX.

OK.

No, it's a cracking little car, by the way.

Apart from, she loves it.

She just drives it with all the eight.

Sure.

She doesn't care.

Yeah.

But I care.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

So it's annoying.

Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, well, let's see.

I think it's intriguing and it's interesting in terms of what being bummed you're doing there,

because they're obviously making their differentiation in terms of model line-up

and they had been spreading themselves, hadn't they, with offering everything basically.

And now they're doing that.

That's a specific electric vehicle which allows them to be able to do the bigger range

and all this kind of tech rise before they were sort of sharing platforms, weren't they,

and offering multiple choices.

Which I think is genius.

Well, that felt genius, but they've obviously changed their thought process there.

And what's interesting is Horseshoe, obviously going in the opposite direction,

not to wave a flag of, haha, we told you so.

But obviously finally, finally the news has come out that they are going to be offering

a combustion engine variant of the new Cayman Boxster.

Yeah.

And obviously that they are.

That's come out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, confirmed.

You said that as well.

Yeah, that was, yes.

That's the whole argument.

There's a big lorry coming, mate.

Big dustbin.

Yes, Tony, I'll slam on the brakes there.

Yeah, we're in it.

Nearly in the wall.

Into a bin lorry.

Lorry bin?

Bin lorry.

Bin lorry, mate.

Thank you.

Lorry bin.

Sorry, I don't know why I'm choking to death over here.

I think just because of, you know, it feels weird to be so right.

But yes, when we broke this kind of big story, then was it the last year or the start of this year?

Anyway, we got into it.

It was a long time ago, mate.

We, yeah, broke this story that Porsche were kind of reneging and starting to

consider what they would be putting combustion engine vehicles into models like the Taycan

and that they might be scrapping or backtracking on the electric Cayman Boxster.

Everyone, everyone called us, you know.

Names.

Yes.

Horrible names.

We got into like a frack-off.

We got into it.

What is this?

It's a frack-off.

You're using frack-off.

I'm going to Google for it.

I was watching Forty Towers yesterday.

Ah, okay.

Yeah.

A frack-hard meaning.

Yeah, it's like a conflict.

No.

Frack-us.

Yeah.

Not frack-hard.

A frack-us.

Oh, same thing.

No.

It's definitely not.

No.

A noisy disorderly disturbance.

Yes.

A frack-us like, yes, okay, fine.

Not a frack-hard.

Anyway.

It's close.

Long story short.

We were right.

We broke the story and yeah, Porsche have said that alongside the

theoretical new electric Cayman and Boxster, there will be, so what does that mean,

hints towards that maybe there'll be a GT4 or GT4 RS or a Spyder,

a Spyder RS with combustion engine or even a GTS.

We don't know.

Maybe there'll be one electric and then the rest of combustion.

But Porsche have definitely said that they are going to continue down the route that BMW

were operating on of, basically here is a Panamera.

You can have it electric, hybrid or combustion.

But I think BMW are still going to operate in that way, right?

Well no, because this suggests that they're not, that they're trying to move away and

have electric specific models and then combustion or hybrid models.

So you have an iX3, which is on its own platform, and then you have an X3,

which is available as combustion engine or hybrid.

But they've basically been the same, they should be called different things.

No, no, they won't be the same.

So the X3 is not going to look like or be on the same platform as the iX3.

It's not going to be on the same platform.

Supposedly not.

Because that's the whole reason as to why they've been able to do all this new stuff.

Let's wait and see about that.

Fair.

Okay, fine.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, very possibly.

Like let's wait and see.

Because I always thought that they were doing it the best way possible.

Maybe not financially or profitably, or maybe they were one hand behind their back.

But to me, in this world, that is what makes sense.

Make a model and give powertrain options, depending on market usage case,

whatever it might be, and then let the people choose.

And then which one you want.

Yeah.

And then it doesn't affect profits.

You know, the governments can push what they want to push by incentivising people to buy

the product they want them to buy.

Because that's basically what's happened all the while, man.

You know, it used to be all go out and buy diesels, incentivised by diesels 25 years ago.

Oh, actually don't buy diesels now, because they're all killing us.

So then by petrols, incentivised by petrols.

And now it's all hybrid and electric.

So yeah.

One car we really want to talk about on the podcast, which I drove over the summer,

which we never actually even really spoke about at great length,

was that Cadillac that I drove during car week.

Oh, yeah, I saw you in that.

Yeah, because I really haven't got a lot of questions to ask about it, man.

Well, you should.

Really?

Because my God, that thing was unbelievable.

So this is what they call the CT5V Blackwing.

So this is the M5 CS or the C6.

It's proper.

And this was with the precision package or the performance package.

I think the precision package.

Carbon ceramics and, you know, change damping.

Like this was as lair as they get.

And don't forget Cadillac are making moves, mate.

We've got them in endurance racing.

Le Mans.

Now about to come into Formula One.

They're definitely on an agenda to take on European sports car manufacturers.

Not an electric car in sight.

I'm sure they make a lot of electric cars.

Cadillac Lyric is electric, isn't it?

OK.

But this was their fire-breathing 6.2-litre VA 600 and something ridiculous horsepower.

Like, you know, all the available with a manual, your favorite thing.

But isn't that weird when we literally just spoke about for the last five or 10 minutes

about how these manufacturers are trying to adapt to electric vehicles.

And then you've got this other big car maker at the other end of the world

that's literally just still making fire-breathing V8s with...

America!

Yeah, I mean...

I mean, literally...

Well, we didn't know we were going to Australia.

Yeah.

Don't listen.

Whoa, hold on a sec.

Let me get into character.

You're going to get into...

Tangerine, mate.

Yeah, so, don't listen to them.

Keep burning cold.

Yeah.

And what was that?

I've always said, which is like,

they tell you, don't leave your fridge doors open.

Don't listen to the weirdos.

Yeah.

You know it clearly.

But it was...

No, that was the radio.

I don't remember every time we got into an Uber, we heard the radio being like...

Save Australia's natural gas.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Keep burning oil.

That was adverse, mate, as well.

We were blown away by it.

So, yeah, it doesn't surprise me that much.

But honestly, dude, that black wing...

Would I like it?

Yes.

Right.

It was an unbelievably good car.

Like your Jag?

Yes.

But way more...

Way better, way more well-rounded.

Right.

You know, it...

Oh!

There you go.

So what's happened there?

So that saw...

There was a van slowing in front of us,

not even stopped.

And the car...

Scared the... Scared the life out of me.

Yeah.

Did it auto-break or did it just...

No, I just...

You just made a noise and made me slam the brakes on.

Go away!

Leave us alone.

Okay, let's try this.

Hey, Mercedes.

How may I help you?

Can you turn off driving aids?

I have switched off the driving recommendations.

Recommendations, that sounds right, doesn't it?

No.

Thank you.

I don't think she's done anything right.

Driving recommendations...

No, recommendations.

Oh, yeah, no, she's not because I can see your lane assist.

No, no, no, she's done nothing.

Hey, Mercedes.

How may I help you?

Please turn off driving assistance.

I have switched off the driving recommendations.

Yeah, no, no, no, she's done nothing, mate.

Okay, thank you.

This looks nice.

What's this? Farm shop?

Yeah.

Broad-ish farm shop, they make that.

That looks lovely.

You might better get...

Local sweet corn.

There's a little coffee in there.

Yeah, they do nice coffee there.

Yeah.

Get on the way back.

You know what I'm doing after this?

Where you going, mate?

Porsche to pick up a 3RS.

Are you?

Yeah.

Finally, like four and a half years later,

I'm driving a new 3RS.

Have you not driven one yet?

I've still not driven a new 3RS.

Nor have I.

A 9.2 3RS.

And I'm taking it to Silverstone on Thursday.

Are you going to come?

I'm coming.

Come, because I need your little tips and advice

of where to go.

Don't ask me, mate.

Yeah, a lot.

That would be quite exciting.

So, yeah, like, finally get my hand.

Go flat out.

Yeah, I'm really intrigued to see where I am.

We're both going to Thursday night,

order a new 3RS.

Yeah.

No, because we said, like, for us,

what I quite like is I've got to do 100 miles

to bed in the new paths.

So I've got to do some road driving.

And there's a, like, non-motorway

proper road driving.

So I'll give a chance to, like,

kind of live with it for a bit.

Yeah.

And then track down Thursday.

That'd be quite good, wouldn't it?

Parliament.

Anyway, we've got lots of stuff coming up

which is exciting.

We're actually doing a live show this Sunday

down at Vines of Gatwick, BMW.

I have found this car quite unenjoyable.

The ride is really firm.

Yeah, but all new Mercedes are like this, mate.

It's really, like, unenjoyably firm.

Yeah, but all, like, all Mercs are like this, mate.

And then the systems.

I mean, the design in here is quite nice.

Yeah.

I've got quite a few Mercs on loan.

Merc loans lined up.

Yeah.

In the weeks of it.

Yeah, um, yes.

I would not score this particularly highly.

But if you have an interesting,

a quite fun car that you think

would be amusing to hear our thoughts on,

or at least Tony's thoughts on.

I want to drive an old car.

What do you want to drive?

I want to drive, say, an old.

Like what?

Like an old.

What year?

Like RS Escal or Sierra.

OK.

Something like that.

You know, something that can take me back.

An old Renault 5 turbo.

Something take me back.

You're going to be, make me cry.

OK.

And I'll take a Golf R32, please.

Yeah, I love them as well.

Ford generation, yeah.

Yeah.

OK, so yeah.

So we want to get,

we want to get back in and behind the wheel

of some of your cars.

Yeah.

The Rate My Ride episodes are some of our favourite.

And we love doing them.

And we last season got the chance to actually drive some of the cars

and talk about them.

It was so much fun.

We loved it.

So please get in touch, btg at scene2glass.com

or comment below if you've got a car,

for now UK based,

that you think we could drive as part of one of these episodes.

It would be.

I know, I know something really cool

that you definitely wouldn't have driven

that was around in my area.

That is actually a really proper car.

Go on.

Lotus Colen.

Oh yeah, never.

Never.

But what?

Over my head.

Really?

Oh mate, I'd be right up your street.

We're going to have to go and do all the dynamic.

We couldn't do the dynamic driving whilst recording.

We'd have to go and do all the dynamic driving

and then talk about it post.

Yeah, because the right handful.

Oh mate.

I know like nothing about them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like it was like,

it was the M5 of the day back then.

Okay, but it was a collaboration between Lotus

and Vauxhall.

Vauxhall, yeah.

They're fine.

But fully branded as a Lotus,

Vauxhall Colen, it's a Lotus Colen.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, fine.

But you know, only because of all the

all the dynamics that are done by Lotus.

Yeah.

I mean, it looks like a bloody Colen.

Yeah, I would love to.

So if anyone's got a Lotus Colen

that they're prepared to drive.

What a car.

Yes, please, please get in touch.

What else do we want to say, Tony?

We are back.

Catch up with you next week.

Bye-bye.

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Mercedes-Benz Cclass

Aston Dbxs

Toyota MR2

Ferrari Testarossa

Renault 5

Ford Capri

Lamborghini Huracan

Ferrari LaFerrari

Revuelto

Porsche 918 Spyder

BMW M3

Lamborghini Aventador

Lamborghini Reventon

Yangwang Yang Wang U9

iX3 (G08)

Land Rover Range Rover

Porsche Taycan

BMW X3

Porsche Cayman

Porsche Boxster

Porsche Panamera

Chevrolet C6

BMW M5

Cadillac Lyric

Nissan R32

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