Because a lot of people think a gold car is number one.
I mean, it's brave.
What's the scariest car you've ever driven?
I know immediately, they let me loose on Dubai Autodrome with it,
and I did two laps, and I came in trembling and scared by it,
and I was like, I can't drive this.
I definitely think Ferrari names could do with some.
Refining, the 12-cylindry.
In English, it's 12-cylinder.
Very imaginative.
So when I got out of the F355 I drove,
that felt like a baby F50.
You can't even compare it.
It's a slow car.
On the M25, a truck drove into the side of me.
We had to hire lawyers.
Them saying it wasn't their fault,
oh, we've lost the video footage from the truck,
even though it was a brand new truck with cameras,
which was very inconvenient.
What's the most you've ever made on a car?
Interesting question.
Rank the four supercar brands, I'll say them,
and then you rank them fourth to top.
OK.
OK, so...
McLaren, Lamborghini, Ferrari, Porsche.
From bottom to top.
Yeah.
There's some pressure here, isn't there?
OK.
Obviously, they're all great brands.
Well done, I will edit that out.
No, no, no, you're not editing that.
They're all great, they're all great brands.
I'll say it between everyone, so it's hard to edit.
I know your video editing games, though.
So, bottom to top, Porsche, Lambo, McLaren, Ferrari.
I'm not having Lambo under McLaren, I think that, like...
Well, I've gone with that order.
But he's experienced different McLarens than what you have, that's why.
I've experienced more cars than me in the end, so...
I think the 675 is the reason you've put McLaren in front of Lamborghini.
For sure, because I love that car.
There you go.
I mean, I've had cars from all of these brands, right,
and done a lot of miles and met a lot of other people
who have cars from these brands, so...
So, why Porsche bottom?
I don't own one.
They're always bottom, aren't they? Everyone will be best.
There's nothing Porsche that makes you go...
They're too good at what they do.
Like I say, I've owned a bunch of Porsches in recent years,
so it's not that I'm not familiar with them.
I struggle with the dealer network, as I mentioned.
I struggle with that relationship with them.
And I feel like so many of the cars
are like the same thing, same thing, same thing, same thing.
You drove one, you drove them all.
A million different 911s are all kind of the same thing.
Plus, okay, forget the hypercar Porsche,
the 911 Spyder, whatever.
I should add to this caveat that while my dream car is an F-50,
by far and away, my second favorite car in the world
is a Carrera GT.
By far and away.
So forget what I call the hypercar versions of a Porsche.
I don't think any other Porsche is a supercar.
I have a very controversial view
on hypercars, supercars, and sports cars
that upsets a lot of people.
I view that you should categorize a car,
which category it's in, based on the base model of that lineup.
So to me, a GT2 RS or a GT3 RS is a sports car,
because it's a base 911, jazzed up.
The GT Black series is also a sports car,
because it's an AMG GT.
SF90XX is a supercar, because the base is an SF90.
I feel like...
I agree with you.
I don't think that...
Totally agree with you.
I think this is often a myth.
Where it gets a little bit controversial recently
is the Corvette ZR1X.
I don't know if you know much about the new Corvette
on this side of the pond.
They've taken the mid-engine Corvette,
1,250 horsepower hybridized twin-turbo V8.
It's faster on any performance metric than W1 or F80.
Yet it's a Corvette.
A Corvette is a sports car,
but it's more powerful and faster than a hypercar.
This is the one, like, grey area.
That is a grey area.
But you're out looking how they categorize.
I totally agree with you.
I've always lived that you should look at the...
You should put it in these, you know,
supercar sports...
Sorry, sports car, supercar, hypercar,
in where the base model is.
Because to a lot of people,
while a GT2 RS is not a base Carrera,
they are still 911s on the same chassis,
on the same platform.
OK, so we've gone wide Porsche 4.
You're not loving Lamborghini, are you?
I love spending time in Lambos,
and I love Lambos as a brand,
and I've visited the factory a lot of times.
They are incredibly kind to me as well, actually.
Considering I don't own a Lamborghini,
the team there are really nice to me
with filming opportunities, with visits.
You know, if I go to my channel,
I think seven of the top 10 videos on my channel are Lambos.
There's a huge Lambos...
Why have you not got a couple of Lambos here?
I feel sad.
Rob has an Aventador Roadster.
Yeah, I think...
I just love that car.
But in a way, it boils down to the fact
that there are so many Lambos on the internet.
Yeah, I suppose.
Let me go the other way.
How many YouTubers own an SF90XX?
Yeah, but you are pink.
You are blue.
Yeah, but that separates men from the boys, doesn't it?
It creates unique content.
Whereas even if I'd been a Lambo collector
and had got up to an SVJ,
there are tons of SVJs on YouTube.
You don't have to look far to find SVJ videos.
So I think part of it, for me,
was that opportunity to create unique content.
And growing my relationship with Ferrari
has actually been amazing for that.
Yes, I know it makes my platforms very Ferrari heavy.
But Ferrari represent about a quarter of the supercars ever made.
I don't think you can have any kind of
supercar platform and not be Ferrari heavy.
Well, that's what I mean,
because a quarter of the supercars ever made a Ferrari.
A quarter of my collection is Ferrari.
A quarter of my videos are Ferrari.
It's going to end that way
because of how many cars they've made over the years
and how powerful the brand is.
You can't get away from Ferrari.
Okay, let's talk about the look
because you said something which I thought was really fascinating
before we went on camera
because I personally, I'm not in love with the new look.
I realised that's just my opinion.
But you know, I am in the market for these kind of cars.
To me, they look very electric, American.
I know you said there might be some throwbacks.
But you made an interesting point that
maybe I'm just not understanding
what they'll look like when we look back in 10 years.
I think it's really interesting
and the next car actually coming up
is the Dodici Cilindri or the 12-cylinder.
Not the 12-cylindri.
Just in case.
In English it's 12-cylinder.
You know, 12-cylinder engine.
Very imaginative.
I definitely think Ferrari names
could do with some refining.
But the Dodici Cilindri from the very beginning
made people go,
what is going on here?
Right, black bar across the front.
Slightly weird looks.
The coupe with its kind of delta wing on the rear deck
is also another angle.
And especially when you compare
to the previous generation cars,
the 812, the F12,
very classically beautiful Ferrari.
Beautiful cars.
Right, the 812 when it was new
wasn't accepted as well as the F12.
You know, when the 812,
I mean, I've been at the launch events
of all of these cars.
So I've got the comments on my channel
from each of these launch videos.
So I can look back and see what people say.
And one of the particularly fascinating ones,
when the F12 TDF came out,
do we all agree that the F12 TDF
is one of the coolest Ferraris?
Oh yeah, I'm a fan of the TDF.
My first video of the TDF,
the comments are like,
what happened?
Did they hit it with the ugly stick?
All the comments.
But now, not that long later,
it's only been 10 years.
We love it.
I certainly love it.
It's one of my favorite cars that I don't own.
Would love to own.
So what I think happens with Ferrari,
and you know, like I said,
I go to all of these events,
so I've been lucky to meet
with Flavio Manzoni,
who's head of Ferrari design,
with Carlo Palazzani,
who's the exterior designer,
well, now responsible for the design
of most of these new cars.
And it's super interesting
to hear the way they talk about it,
because they're obviously playing
a very different game to us.
We're looking at what we know,
and we're particularly,
as buyers at the minute, nostalgic.
We look at things,
we're scared of the future,
we don't want electric,
we don't want change,
all these new Chinese cars.
It scares us,
well, cars beeping at you
every five seconds, right?
We're scared of new.
So change is something
that we don't take very nicely,
and the cars that are
immediately doing very well
at the moment,
they turn out to be pretty free,
because it looks like the old stuff.
The new Aston's, they look beautiful,
new vanquish,
not that used values of vanquish are great,
but people love it,
because it looks amazing.
It is a beautiful car.
It looks like what you've known
from an Aston for the last 10 years, right?
Nothing new to it.
But Ferrari's job isn't
strictly from the brand perspective
about right now,
it's about the legacy for the future.
And if you look at Ferrari cars,
especially if you go back
to the 50s, 60s and all the smooth curves,
then you have the 80s,
and you have Daytona and then Testarossa,
you have, go through the 90s,
things went through a wedgie shape
back into the curves of the F50.
Enzo, again, Enzo's like,
what happened is completely different design.
And Enzo, I was at the launch of the Enzo.
And it was like, what's this?
And everyone was like,
so underwhelmed by the design.
They were like, what's going on there?
I mean, the F50 is a beautiful car.
It's Marmite though.
There's 50% of people don't like the look of an F50.
It's always been my,
when I was a kid, there's my favorite car.
And I love F50s.
So I think it's a beautiful car.
And now they're worth 7 million pounds.
Everyone else thinks they're a beautiful car.
I remember my dad bought the first one in the UK
was £380,000 in 1994.
I think it was 1994.
That was the list price.
And I love the car ever since.
The Enzo, even I was like,
don't know about the design of that.
Now, or say from 10 years ago,
I would look at an Enzo and go, that is beautiful.
So what I find really fascinating about this
is the way that Flavio talks about it
is effectively that they're trying to create
a new design legacy for the future, this period.
They're trying to create a design
that today is different from what's come before
and it will be different going into the future
but creates a distinct identity.
And Ferrari, unlike other brands,
change very quickly.
If you look at Lambo, if you look at Aston,
you know, brands that have been making cars for many years,
the designs, even if it's 20, 30 years old,
hasn't changed much through to now.
You know, Lambo with their very edgy shapes,
Aston with their very smooth curves,
golden ratio kind of proportions.
Ferrari, every 10 years, the lineup is totally different.
You don't look at a 458 and look at, you know,
a new 849 and say they're the same company
because there's like nothing between them.
And that's almost their goal.
So the cars of today, we look at in 10, 20 years time
and go, that was a cool design of the 2020s.
And one of the biggest differences,
if you didn't like a car when the Enzo came out,
you maybe told your friends or talked about it
with a small group, but you didn't have social media
to go blah, blah, blah.
So everything's very different now.
I trust the process.
So I'm not going to sit here and say,
I think the Dodici Challenger is as beautiful
as I thought the F12 was the day that came out.
But I trust the process that they know more than we do.
I think they have a better idea of how people
will evolve with design.
They've been studying it for decades and understand it.
Then we do who look in with a very abrupt,
you know, simplified view of it.
But wouldn't you want to buy a car
that you just like the look of?
I mean, I'm not saying I don't like the look.
I'd rather I didn't like the look of.
But you've sort of said that you don't really like the look of it.
You trust for either in 10 or 20 years
you'll like the look of it.
I think spec helps massively.
Right.
So I know there are people who don't like my spec
because a lot of people think a gold car is number one.
I mean, it's brave.
But I do.
And I didn't really like the car as they launched it.
But I guess because I've specced quite a lot of cars now.
I've owned 60, 70, 80 cars.
I've got a lot of experience
of thinking and visualising what it will look like.
And I think that can make a very big difference.
I also think seeing something in person
is often very different to pictures.
100%. I think Ferrari's new design
because the black bar at the front is always very raked.
So in pictures, it looks really prominent.
But in person, it's a much sort of slender,
sleeker design.
So I think in person it gives a much better impression.
I'm not.
How do I say this like totally wrong?
But I guess I don't think I've ever looked at a car
and thought that's 100% perfect.
And I think I've always
would look at something and say there's something I would change
if I was the designer, but I'm not.
I'm the customer.
The biggest thing for me with the dodgy challenge
is they could have made the ugliest thing in the world.
And if I can still in 2025
buy a naturally aspirated V12 Ferrari,
I'm all in.
Because in a few years time,
that's not an option anymore.
It doesn't exist.
So thank you for making that car for us.
And it is a great car, by the way.
It's a phenomenal car.
So I would say I'm a bit torn on that.
But once you've driven a Ferrari
with a V12 that screams up to the top
and I love buying a new car.
A lot of the cars here are new.
I love the spec process and I love going to the dealer
and choosing all the options and building it on the configurator.
I wasn't in a position to order an 812 when they were new.
I thought about an 812 GTS
but truthfully,
given how 812 Superfast had plummeted,
I didn't order a GTS because I thought it would do the same.
And it hasn't.
But that was the curve ball of the particular time
and the market going crazy for a few years.
An 812 Superfast in a year,
you'd spend 325 and it would be 225 a year later.
That's what they did.
That's what all Front Engine V12 Ferraris
done throughout the years.
So the fact that this was just over 400 new,
but the fact that it's
not lost a third in a year,
I'm quite happy about.
It sounds ridiculous to say that
but maybe owning it
will be lucky to secure me an allocation
for something special in the future.
But in the meantime,
I get to drive and own
a custom-spec V12 Ferrari.
Tell that to teenage Tim
and that was a dream.
I remember having an F50
that we paid
£475,000
for.
It was yellow and
an F50 was my poster.
We were obviously the same age born the same year
and it was the ultimate car
and I just remember driving it
with the roof off
at 8 o'clock at night
not even very fast
or anything that's on the road
and I just remember thinking
this is the best experience I've ever had in my life.
Driving my favourite car
that is just
roof off by myself
it was just amazing.
One thing I thought recently,
so I took out an F355 manual
for a video quite recently
and it came to me from that drive
and having been lucky to drive quite a few F50s
probably seven or eight of them
on the road proper
decent drives
is that often the 458s are likened to the LaFerrari.
There's a lot of similar characteristics
between them in the way that they drive
and the LaFerrari was kind of a big 458 when it came out.
The F50
and the F355
have a very similar connection.
There's a lot of just the way they feel
the pedal pressure required
to shift the moves.
You can tell they're both 90s.
They're really there together
differently to cars from other eras
and even the way the cars came after.
And so when I got out of the F355
it was the first time I've driven one
oddly. I've been lucky to drive
all of the big five multiple times
but the first F355 I drove
was only a week ago.
I got out of it and I was like
that felt like a baby F50
so maybe there is a way into that driving experience
and the power though, massively to you.
But I quite like that you can go flat up
to the red line and you're not doing anything silly.
I mean, I'm talking from the perspective
of somebody who's lucky to own the silly stuff
because you go out with a different mindset
if you want to go and bomb down
a country lane versus if you want to turn up
at a drag strip.
I'm talking in the way of
the era of when that car was
new compared to its competitors.
It's a slow car.
You put it next to a
993 turbo.
Yeah.
You can't even compare it.
It sounds nice.
I'd rather have a 993
turbo.
That's a really, that's a great car.
Not for me.
That's one of the only
Porsche that I
really have a connection with.
I love that car.
Anything behind that
or after that
doesn't do it for me.
Is there any brand
that you
dislike you just, you wouldn't have one?
Well, the brand that I should have
more of is definitely Porsche.
I would have thought Lamborghini.
I've had an STO. The problem I have
with Lamborghini is
I love the cars when I drive them
but they're not so much me
because I'm not that
really out there
like I sense weird set with all
this around. I was going to say
the normal cars you have.
The normal kind of
Lamborghini things.
Not exactly incognito, mate, are you?
I'm more of a first
focus is driving dynamics.
I loved McLaren and I wish McLaren
had been, and maybe they will in the
future, more what I hoped
they would be. My first
proper supercar was a 12C
and I followed it with a 650S and then
a 675 LT coupe and then a 675 LT
Those were my first four proper supercars.
I really loved what McLaren was
and I feel that
talking Ferraris, I love what they've
done in the recent years and I tend to go through waves
depending on the cars and I'm sure
there will be a Lambo period but
right now
I wasn't completely blown away
ever by a Vantadors. It was just not
my thing. I found them too
big and clunky and
I just never really
loved it for a one-time drive but
occasionally I borrowed friends' cars and did
rallies with them or whatever so I've done
a week of every day in an Aventador
and I'm good. I'm fine with that.
You're Aventador out.
I'm not
like I say, I'm not anti-Lambo.
I just feel like it hasn't landed
that there's the right car that I
really want. The one I would
love is a Murcielago SV
but that's another one that the
ship has sailed. There were
times when I was offered one at 300
K and I was like, should I buy it?
And hindsight is a wonderful thing. I should have bought it
but we are where we are.
I would also quite like a Gallardo.
I'd love to get in into a Gallardo
maybe like a first-gen
Performante. The one that everybody doesn't
realise it's called the Performante.
How they change with the Huracan. Superleggera convertible.
Exactly. Undervalued. Something like that would be cool.
Yeah, 100.
120. That's one I sold 120.
I think that's a pretty cool collectible.
The car really rare.
They didn't make a lot of them. Looks cool.
It's one of those cars if you know what it is.
It's Performante.
But whenever I share a picture on a video
if I ever talk, if I see one in a video at an event
and I walk past it and say Performante
guaranteed someone in the comments will say that's not a Performante.
They only know that as Huracan.
But anyway, I kind of like that.
So I could see
like I say, when the Euro millions
I'd buy an SV in a Performante for sure.
So it's not that I'm anti-Lambo
nothing from the current lineup makes me go
I want that or that works for me
or correction.
Nothing that goes that I go that works
in my collection. Temerario wonderful car
but so suited to your person
who has one extreme supercar
because it's practical usable.
It's going to be quite reliable
relatively speaking. Like it ticks a lot of boxes
but it doesn't have the thrill factor
and nor does it have the like
collectibility factor of the Ferraris.
So it's kind of lost a bit for me.
And a very specific
personal problem
is that
I always find Lamborghini
seats really uncomfortable
like when I was a bit younger
I broke three vertebrae in my lower back
so I do get kind of
comfortable in certain cars
and the car seat that I love the most
is a Ricciaro pole position
which guess what is in the black series
so it works very well for me
it fits the curve of my back
the shape of my back and
you know that's a personal thing
the next guy doesn't have the same problem
but the Lambo seats have a higher ridge
and they leave your lower back quite unprotected
Yeah, you got to sit your ass right back
with a cushion I can kind of
work it out with a seat pillow and what not
but with a standard seat it's really horrible for me
like after half an hour I'm already sore
so that does change
what I can do.
Ravuelto and Tamarario seats are better
I think Ravuelto is a cool car
but it came out at the time
I was already feeling burnt on SF90s
and I was like these are going to do the same
the 600 grand if you speck it up nicely
what are they now?
I've got one that was 580
it's not a year old
and it's 510
they've got more room to come down
for sure
I think delivery is quite
short on them cars for new cars
I don't think there's an influx in
a minute there's going to be 38 cars
for sale on AutoTrader
they're not supplying too many through
this is what Lamborghini tell me
they are pushing the Tamarario
is going to be a high volume car
so I was going to say
after the Ravuelto conversation
what about a Tamarario? I drove it on track
at Estaril in Portugal and it is phenomenal
brilliant car
insanely fast
like to give you some perspective of speed
I was lapping the Tamarario
fast around Estaril and I could lap my Senna
around Estaril
not by a lot but faster
down the start straight Senna was doing
285 ish
Tamarario to
from 285 km
into the three teams
so over 310
it's nuts fast
driving
computers are so clever
they borrowed some preformer McLaren text
so they have some cool ideas behind
how they're doing it
driving dynamics if you want to drive fast lap
it's clued up for a fast lap
very clever car
but what are they spec to?
350
what's that going to be in a year?
350 is not
that's not with the livery extra
you can get for 27 grand
350 is going to be 250 in a year
I feel a bit like
with Ferrari
that happens
but being in the Ferrari club
has a lot of upsides I absolutely love
the potential for limited cars
but also the community and being a collector
it's very hard to focus on collecting multiple brands
because it takes a lot of time
to go to these events
and so if I was going to do the Lamborghini thing
I'd want to fully do the Lamborghini thing
Tamarario or Vuelta or SSC
go crazy with everything
that's a lot of the D word
there's a lot of it
and I don't know
if the upside rare cars are the same
because if you look at STOs
they made
I don't
I'm going to guess quite a lot more than you'd think
I think most people would guess it's probably 1500
something like that
3544
really?
there's not a rare car at all
that's really not a rare car
so all of a sudden you turn around
you go
I mean
they cost 320ish new and there was a point
they hit 220 and they've come up a bit now
I think you get 260ish maybe
again now but
what's the next car
is the like
Revuelta or SV
or the Tamarario or STO
it's an unknown playing field
so it's a lot of commitment to collect Lambos
I think Porsche would have been the obvious go to
it's so weird
and I've never actually really done a video about this
but I bought my Taycan Turbo S
and I bought my 718 GT4
I bought both cars off the deal a lot
so they got good money for both of them
and I thought at the time
that was going to be like
I'm going to start a relationship with Porsche
I own a bunch of Porsches but
it just got to the point where they would never call back
they would never have any information about anything
you just get left feeling as a client
I mean you know this because you're dealing with customers
if you leave the customer and they have a feeling
that they're not a valued customer
you just go somewhere else
and a lot of people
I would say 9 out of 10 people
won't be vocal
about their feelings
but their actions will speak louder than words
they'll do what Tim done and just walk away
instead of saying
look guys
I'm being like a mushroom here
is there any chance you can like come back to me
I want to be a client
which is kind of probably what I would say
but a lot of people think you know what
they don't want to get back to me
they don't want me to be a customer
I'll go to Ferrari or whoever else
and I'll become their customer
I have a great relationship
with my contacts at Ferrari
my sales team
at the main dealer that I use
can you say what dealer you buy
HRO
and HRO and Hatfield
do all the servicing for the whole group
but the sales teams at both know everyone
I think they're all brilliant
the service team that I use at Hatfield are amazing
I exchanged a message earlier to book in the SF90
for its fourth year service this morning
come back to me straight away everything
there's that convenience
when you're living a busy lifestyle
but also that relationship that you have
means that you're in constant contact
so you know when something exciting might drop
or there's a new model
you're talking about it already because you're enthusiastic
and you're having a nice conversation
it makes it very easy
and you know they
understand me to the extent
that there might be a new model
and they'll put together a little configuration
and say what do you think
I'm chit-chat about cars
I'm in a position where I'm spoiled to know a lot
about what's coming in the future with different cars
and there are things even that I can't share with the dealers
sometimes has to be a little bit secretive
but off the back of that it means
that you're talking as friends
and car guys
it's a very fun relationship that I have
with them and that's part of buying so many Ferraris
what are the sales guys
at HRO
in Hatfield
lives in my village
where I live which is
that's not very local
it commutes every day
how far is that
in the morning
it definitely would be two hours
I wouldn't want to do it
at five o'clock on a Friday
and why I know this is
I recently sold a LaFerrari
and
it had a warranty and there was some warranty work that was being done
and the guy wanted to send it to
HRO in
so I said the guy I sold it to also lives in my village as well
and I said why do you want to send it to
HRO when we've got Greypool
which is literally five miles around the corner
he's like oh because my contact there
is a friend
so I was like how do you know the guy from
why are you so close with the guy from Hatfield
he's like he's not from Hatfield
he lives in Solly Hole
he lives five miles away
it's a relationship game
at the end of the day none of these things
it's not one of these necessities
not one of them
they are pure because your heart says
or your impulse feeling is that you want to buy it
so it comes down to your relationship and your emotion
it's the whole point
nobody needs a 1000 horsepower or more car
nobody needs to spend this much money on a car
so I think that relationship
that you have with the person
who is ultimately your connection to the brand
is absolutely critical
it's why I've gone through waves with the different brands
I had a phase when I bought quite a few Mercs
because my contact
the AMG rep at my dealer
became a really good friend
and that's your link
that's what keeps you connected
I think it's known
but I still think even today it's not appreciated enough
and yes it's difficult because a different type of customer
also wants a different type of sales contact
oh yeah I'm not everybody's cup of tea
really?
believe it or not
I come across quite aggressive
because a lot of people who I deal with
they like to be dealt with
but isn't it interesting
I understand that I can't deal with everybody
so I have a sales manager
who can sit and have a three hour
coffee conversation with you
and if you don't buy is perfectly fine with you
not buying a car and wasting three hours of your time
like you know
where I am
I'm a hybrid
my dad is a different level
my dad is like
so after 15 minutes he's like so are you buying this car
you know
to the point
because I've got things to do
you know exactly what I mean
some people will want to quick whatsapp chat
some people will want to sit down and have a coffee
you've got to cater for everybody
so I think from a dealer side
you do have to offer that
you do have to have a person who suits each client
because your young
tech guy who's made a load of money in his young twenties
is a very different buyer to your retiree
buying his first supercar
completely different treatment
and then you get a guy who buys a supercar a month
and he wants to send me a whatsapp
Carl what's the best deal on the center
750
I'll give you 725 I'll pay you tomorrow
that's the conversation
and then you get other people who
they want to come out they want to see the car
they want to come back out with their son-in-law
because he's into cars and you know
there's book and appointment for another four days
then he comes out he wants to drive the car
then he wants to sit and have a coffee
but Robert
my sales manager does and he's very good at it
and he's got great patience and you know
but you need to cater for everybody
pound for pound best car you've ever owned
pound for pound not the most expensive
pound for pound best car
675 LT
good call you've tempted me on that
phenomenal car for the money even better
when it's today's price not what I paid
and you've got one for two
200 slightly over it might be
two to you
slightly over but I'll do you
see where that's going
even if it's 220 it's a good buy
no the thing there you go
should
get the 675 LT
or the SF90
what's the better buy
that's a really interesting question
they're quite different experiences
the LT I would say is more compromised
it's more awkward to get in and out of
it has a pretty horrible turning circle
it's very very low
it's out a lot unless you're running with the lift up
so it's the less
in one way usable car but then it does have a
decent frunk
but what I will say it's always good to buy a car
when it's on the up rather than a car that's
on the down and an SF90 at the minute
is
you know it's still kind of on the down
no one really knows
where they are where I think the 675 has
reached its lowest point which was high ones
it's been in that 180 to
200 bracket for a long time
they're starting now to go low
twos so they do I need to make more videos
and big them up yes please
make your net worth 20 million
just in that just in an LT
LT is a 10 minute car
it's a really good question I mean
to haven't to
haven't to drive
the SF90 is a better car
I mean it's an amazing car
to live with and use on a more regular
basis the SF90 probably to own and
collect and take out occasionally
I agree with that
so 100 grand
where could you put it in a car
that's got the best chance that one day
that's a million pounds like in maybe the
next 10 or 15 years
100 grand can you finance
yeah we put 100 grand down
100 grand
you took some big numbers here
but maybe you know 100 grand maybe more
viewers could get in on a car
on that kind of number
I mean to say a million you know
it's quite a tough
it's quite a tough thing to do
but I think there's cars out there that
are at the most
Tim it's going to go up the most
that's under 100k
100
I think
I'm trying to think what Ferrari is
best suited because I really do think
Ferrari is so strong
can you get 355 for 100
you get 355 for 100
I think too many of them
11,000 cars
but you only want a manual
and you can't get a manual for less than 100
there's too many anyway
I don't think it can be a huge
I'm more in the like
are we at a generation where a 599
80k is looking like a goodbye
expensive to run
but once again there's a mass produced car
yes it will go up
it will go from
I'm not selling them for less than 100
so there are over 100 now
let's say 100
they might go to 200
but I don't think they're going any further
we can't get into an SLS I think
they're going SLS
they're 200 minimum
minimum
I used to buy them for 75 grand
I saw one recently for 260
but it's done 900 miles
do you think that
maybe not a million pound car
but certainly half a million pound car
I think one of the difficulties with this question
is that
over the last five years
a lot of the cars that you could have put in this category
have already done it
you know your E46 M3's, your Clio V6
these things that were super cheap
have come up significantly
and that makes it quite difficult
because
at the more attainable
price range more people were gambling that they would
and what's happened with many of those cars
like E46 M3's
cool cars when we were young
have gone up and they've come down again
they're kind of bucking the trend right now
with a lot of cars from the 90s and early 2000s
because a few years ago
money was available
the world wasn't quite as messed up as it is now
and people were able to take a chance and they did
but now they need out of them
I mean you look at things like a Lancia Delta Evo 2
you know that's a car
that is not very expensive
you'd buy one for a mere touch over 100
that could be something that in the next three or four years
it hits a peak where
there's a massive want for them
and they could double treble even
okay I'll let you go up
to maybe near a 200
if you can get anything that you could think
could be the next million pound car
SLS
SLS Goldwing is
I don't know but I'm trying to think
could a really clean 458
a nice spec 458 regular car
there's too many
there's always a better one
I get offered one with a 5,000 miles
I think wow that's amazing and then I know
somebody who's got one with 2,000 miles
and then I know someone who's got one with 1,000 miles
and then you know there's always a better one
okay
tough question Rob
675
675 is a great car
I think that is heavily linked to the future
of McLaren as a company
if McLaren succeed as a company going forward
there will be more people who want to collect them long term
and that will massively pull up the values
and I think one of the reasons for
Centres and LT's and whatever
losing money in today's market
or until today is that
there isn't a desire to collect McLaren's
there are a couple of McLaren collectors
but it's a small number of people compared to Porsche
or Ferrari or whatever
and then they have one car which is the most collectible car in the world
yeah
so they've gone from one model
which is the most collectible car in the world
and I think one day will probably
be the most expensive car in the world
to
the F1
to every other model that they make
not being collectible at all
I find even P1's an interesting topic
P1's are phenomenal cars
one of the best looking cars of the last 15 years
absolutely amazing
but by the time you factor in
they were 866,000 pounds new
in 2013
factor that to today and a car on today's market is 1.2, 1.3
something like this
1.5 really
but that's pretty similar money to what they cost
in today's world
go stick that money in the bank and you'd have
one and a half today
so they haven't gone up
so you think they're underpriced
I think they are
low units 349
I think again it's linked to
where McLaren go
I think at the moment the problem is
people who generally own a McLaren
or two McLaren's it's one or two
there are lots of people who own
10 Ferraris or 10 Porsches
what's the most you've ever made on a car
interesting question
the cars that have appreciated the most
I've not sold
SLS Black Series, SF90XX
458 Speciale now
the 4GT certainly at a time
so which one has made you the most
even if you haven't sold it
probably in today's money
the SF90XX I would think
from list
I'd say the Black Series
they're probably both in the
300-400
profit
I think the most I've ever sold a car
for at a profit is in five figures
probably my first 675LT
because there was big demand for those
and I only sold it because initially
McLaren had said there would never be a spider
they changed that, of course there was small company
so when the spider came out I ordered
that as well so I sold my coupe after nine months
and what's the most you've lost on a car
Senna, well unrealised
maybe SF90 but realised
Senna
best part of 200,000
was it worth it?
I think I never look back at a decision
and let's say regret it because
you made the decision based on what you knew at the time
and I got to own a Senna for five years
you know and I didn't just own it
I drove it, I had a couple of days at Spa
I did a load of Nurburgring laps
I did a sub-7 VTG at the Nurburgring in my Senna
like this is ridiculous
so I don't regret it
but I certainly would have
come out of it with a happier memory
if I had lost less on it
and maybe if I hadn't appreciated so heavily
I would have kept it
I begrudged that and I lost a lot
because I had a little bump with it
I was about to touch on that
15 miles an hour on the M25
a truck drove into the side of me
which was very inconvenient
when you say a little bump
only cosmetic, so 15 miles an hour
nothing to the suspension or anything like that
but isn't that expensive on a McLaren?
oh yeah, six-figure repair bill on the insurance
a couple hundred thousand
it took 21 months of legal proceedings to get it back
I remember when you posted the video
literally you're done on your phone
didn't you on the side of the road
the problem was or the unfortunate thing was
you never want to show
negative stuff around cars
I try and keep things positive
in the earlier days I certainly uploaded videos of some crashes and things
but I've always in more recent times
tried to be very positive
but the challenge in this particular case was
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and I'm going to buy more
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it was on the day of the Goodwood Festival of Speed
on the M25 in a traffic jam
so every second car going past
was somebody I knew or somebody taking a photo
so there was no hiding
no choice
so once you've committed that you can't hide that it happened
the most important thing
is to explain it yourself
and say the truth of what happened
so explain the situation
upload it, end of story
rather than people making up
oh you were driving and weaving through traffic
and this that and the other
it's like no it's a traffic jam, accidents happen
it will get fixed, we'll move on
I think the biggest thing that scared me with the center
which a lot of people haven't necessarily clocked on to
is they're quite expensive to run
they're not like SLR, Carrera GT expensive
but they're not cheap like 675
the 675 gets a service a year
for like £800 to £1000
insurance tax off you go
the center every five years
the dampers need reworking
the accumulators need replacing
that's a five figure sum
the service is a lot more, warranty is very expensive
if you want to renew it
on the car of that level you kind of do
so the center
it scared me a bit from the point of view of
if I keep it I'm going to spend a lot of money
and I'm not really going to do much with it
but if you drive it it's a 600 quid oil change
yeah they're cheap aren't they
it's a very easy car to just sit there
and I don't feel bad if I don't do anything with it
I feel bad if a car
isn't being used a lot and costs a lot
you're not getting the value for it
yeah of course
you know speciale
I don't mind if I don't really do much with the speciale
because again it's £1000 a year for a Ferrari service
off you go doesn't really need a warranty
because it's a 458
they do a great job
one month legal
yeah it took 21 months to go after
so obviously we had to hire lawyers
well to claim the insurance
yeah
because obviously it was a truck
it's a guy doing his job
it was unfortunate that it happened
but you had that whole situation of
them saying it wasn't their fault
oh we've lost the video footage from the camera
from the truck even though it was a brand new truck with cameras
we have no statement from the driver blah blah blah
so it just went on and on and on
and it's actually
it was a really frustrating time because a few days
after Goodwood
I flew the 4GT out to the US
to go and do a trip in America with it
literally a few days later
so this incident happened
on the first day of the Goodwood Festival of Speed
which for somebody like me is full on
that is running around like a headless chicken
filming videos talking to people
and then straight after Goodwood
US time zones
so I was like waking up two hours before I needed to be awake every day
calls with the lawyers every day
I was thinking at the time if I was like
billing my hours for how long I'm spending
dealing with this that's going to be an enormous
bill alone
is that the most expensive crash you've ever had
it's the only
so you've never crashed
no that's the only time
I mean I'm not counting a wheel curb
or a very tiny bumper of scuff or something
that's the only like
significant bit of damage yeah
that's good garlic
considering the miles you do and the cars that you
you know I should normally try and touch
them would when I say this somehow considering
the cars I drive the miles I do and whatnot
I've never had any points on my license
me that continue
this week
never in 21 years
of driving I'm clean for accidents
or that's incredible yeah that is
that's surprising
and really good
it helps with talking with my insurers
yeah
so now the question is
pound for pound like value
like wow this car should be so much
more expensive what's the best
supercar you've ever driven
can I say my might like
probably the biggest smile and laughs I've had
in a cheap car yeah my clio
1.2 that's got a 2 liter in it
because you just accelerate
in that thing and obviously it weighs nothing it's
probably a thousand kilos but it has 200 horsepower
and every shift it's like power
on the back and it's worth probably less than
a thousand pounds so that wins a pound
for pound in terms of supercars
I think it's a
struggle with any of the new cars I think newer
cars are hard
to get out of now and say yeah that was
the best thing ever they're so powerful
they've all they've all headed towards
the same too much power too much aero
too too crazy
I'm yet to drive any of the gma cars
I don't think you class them as supercars their price
point is up towards hypercar but I would imagine
that they're really
at the height of driving experience
in the supercar
category
cars that are let's say a couple of hundred thousand
what would be
what would be the one that comes out on top
well it was the sls black before I bought one
I'd driven a couple of sls black series
before I'd bought one I'd always been like I need
one of these one day just for me
everything the doors the look of it
the long bonnet the sound
the rarity like everything about
that to me was like that's a supercar
then one day I mean
they've kind of done what I thought they should
do right when they were 300 grand cars yeah
yeah and more
modern
like more modern times
I mean speciale at 300k
it's like pretty phenomenal
driven a few of those over the years
before picking up mine there are loads
of amazing almost I can say
resto mod cars you know people
really modernizing slightly older cars
for a couple of hundred thousand that are
really standing out now because they're about
the connection with the car which the new stuff loses
I think the problem with anything
that don't get me wrong it's a different type
of fun yes I've 92 96
it's a very different type of fun to
manual engaging
old-school feel
but it does lose a connection to you
because the cars doing a lot more of it
and when I go on the press launches now
and I've driven the 849 Testerosa
and I've driven Valhalla and I've driven Temerario
and all of them I've had you know flat out on track
it's crazy fast
they almost blend a bit more into one
they've become
so clever that they know what you want
before you do and you only have to go back
ten years to speciale and LT
and you feel more like you're driving the car
not being driven by the car
and I think that's you know it's technology
it's progression it's natural same in any industry
and those of us who
love them will cling on as much as we can to the past
and that's why an F50 is
what it is now
it's the scariest car you've ever driven
scariest car that I have ever
driven
scariest, scariest
like almost intimidating
or
too much
oh actually I know immediately
I drove a Zyrus
engineering Huracan Super Trafeo
and that is where they take
a normal Super Trafeo race car
track car
and what they do is they twin turbo it
so it's well into the four digit
horsepower
and they significantly up the aero
so we're talking like a thousand kilos of downforce
and 1500 horsepower or something
and they let me loose on Dubai Auto Drone
with it and I did like two laps
and I came in kind of trembling and scared
by it and I was like I can't drive this
and that was the first and probably only time in my life
where I've got out of a like press drive
in a car and known that I'm not
able to drive that thing
this was obviously a few years ago I'd be better now
than I was then but I definitely
got out of that like this is above me
you need on slicks as well
you need some kind of racing experience to drive
a 1500 horsepower thousand kilo
downforce race car
that was too much
scary moment actually getting out of that I was like
I'm alive it's good
what's the best car
you've ever driven
best car I've ever driven
how do we define best
most emotional
most valuable
what did you think
wow this feels like the best car
I've ever driven
can I give you multiple
go on then
really cool experiences
so
this is really difficult
I've been spoiled to drive some cool cars
you pretty much would have drove everything I would say
let me just give you like a
top five cool car experiences
drove a CLK GTR
at Bahrain International Circuit
chasing the owner in his McLaren F1 with another friend
his 911 GT1
that was a pretty cool couple of laps
was that a cool car to drive?
that was pretty because I was
I'm an 87
birth so for me late 90s was like when I was getting into
cars so CLK GTR was
the height of cool
and obviously things like this there's like
25 of those and 20 GT1s
and 100 F1s so
that trio on track together was
pretty cool
for surreal experiences
I was in a Myback G650
Landalay you know the crazy silly
million pound Myback G-Wagon
on safari outside of Johannesburg
filming lions out of it
we were driving through a safari park
in a G-Wagon Landalay
that was pretty ridiculous and that's weird because it's not like a track
experience
I've driven
quite a few F50s and the F50 was
a poster car when I was a kid
first poster I had on my wall was an F50
I've got model F50s everywhere because it's the dream for one day
that ship sailed unfortunately
but let's go sell everything
and don't have a house and have an F50 instead
if you had sold everything
six months ago
and bought an F50 you'd have been a great move
yeah that wasn't really
but you know we never know do we don't know
I liked
picking an F50 experience with a friend
I drove his F50
he drove his Enzo we were in the Dolomites
in the middle of winter
and just that experience was unbelievable
one point he parked up
his Enzo and I was doing donuts in the F50
around the Enzo that was a bit surreal
with the values today that's like that's a big risk
but it was right it was fine
on snow I should point out he trusted you
yeah encouraged me
another really personal thing
was Horacio Pagani
invited me and allowed me to drive his HP
Barquetta and he's not done any media
things with that car
so it had 500 kilometers on the clock
and they let me take it out for a drive from the factory
and that was
firstly really special because it's a very valuable car
you know that's an eight-figure car
but secondly
the privilege and honor that Horacio
allowed me to drive his car
I drove his
Huayra Imola
I went over to the factory
and he just
showed it to me I didn't even know
an Imola existed I don't think anyone did at the time
and he just
gave me the keys
and I can say the fact that it was his car
it feels even more special doesn't it
but you're aware of
how precious it is
now this won't win for pound for pound
but you know normally
they tell you to not meet your heroes because you'll be disappointed
meeting my hero
and being
very generously insured
with a three-hour drive
or three hours in total
by a private collector
to go and enjoy driving
and just go and have some fun
McLaren F1 GTR
and I probably drove 100 kilometers with it
and really gelled with it
and it was insured for
something around 30
and while that's not going to win for pound for pound
that was
absolutely everything I hoped it was going to be
and who owned that car?
in Denmark
and it was really
I just
I always worried that the first time I would drive
in McLaren F1 properly
I would be
I'd go home and think I had really high hopes
and it's not quite lived up to that
but I got out of that car
just beaming from ear to ear
and it was funny timing
because it was in the same week as
the Gumball 3000 in the Far East
and I often do the Gumball most years
but the collector invited me to come
and drive it that week and it was on my birthday
which made it even better
and I was literally like
I'm lucky I've done Gumball nine times
I can I'll miss one
and go do this
but it was really hard to explain that online
everyone was so angry at me for missing the rally
and I'm like I'm not going to get an opportunity
to spend a day with an F1 GTR
and it's my birthday week and the day before
I took the Zenvo to Spa and drove that for some laps at Spa
I was like this is my week
and I'm going full on it
and the day after I drove a Valkyrie Spider
on the Autobahn with another collector
I was like as weeks go
Monday's Zenvo to Spa
Tuesday Valkyrie on the Autobahn
Wednesday F1 GTR for the day
it was a pretty good week
If Carlsberg did weeks
That was a pretty good week
even if it meant missing Gumball
Has your car collection ever attracted any gold diggers?
I would say if you're driving around
if you're ever going out at night
of course a fancy car does
and of course the occasional DMs
and that kind of thing do
I've been with my
by the time this goes out wife for
nearly
well just over 10 years
Congratulations
So you never had anyone hardcore like stalk you out?
Not really
I mean I'm
I guess I've never been focused on that
side of cars
I've never been my
thing I know it is for some people
buying a fancy car is a great way to
pull up outside a club
But I mean sometimes it might just attract it
I think you certainly have to be aware
I'm going to say actually
probably I get more
guys and girls
interest or wanting something
off the back of having a very big social media audience
So like a collab or a shout out
or brand or something
maybe not necessarily clear about what it is
the person's after but you know what it is
we had the same conversation
with Tristan in Dubai
and from
our era
you know
15 years ago you pull up outside
a bar or club or restaurant
in a Ferrari or Lamborghini and you'd
initially get the attention from
whoever you wanted attention from
but now the tide's changed
and I think people look at how many followers
you've got that's attractive
follower count is like a currency in some
countries it's obviously
works very well in my favor because
across the different platforms I've got about 10 million followers
but the reality
is I have experienced
doors opening just because of
the number on Instagram
literally it's the new Lambo
I've gone into restaurants wearing shorts
that definitely have no shorts policy
just because of having followers
I've had access granted
to things
just at the moment they've seen the Instagram count
that kind of thing
do you take advantage of that?
it's not my thing to
often it's somebody I'm with
might do it if that makes sense
but I would like to think
that I'm more traditional
you're with does it for you
we might be at a venue with a group of people
and someone will say to
of course he can come in do you know who he is
do you know who he is
like that but the thing is
I would certainly say that I'm very traditional British
and I think that's not the traditional
British way is that you don't run around saying
look at me and look at what I've got type
thing you just if things
work in your favor great if they don't
it's the same as my attitude with like the brands
I work with you know for example
a brand like Chartwell painting the cars
or whatever it is I'm doing
my attitude is to
go to the brand that I want to work with
and with the full
assumption I'm paying for that service I'm
booking that hotel I'm doing whatever I'm
doing and if the brand should happen to
offer me a discount backwards that's wonderful
if they should do complimentary that's
wonderful but the cars I paid
for the paint jobs because I believe they're the best
and I wanted it done the best
so I take that view and balance that
in life in general and obviously
it means a lot of times there are some great
opportunities some great
things offered experiences
goods whatever
you paid all that great
HMRC are very keen to let you know that
if you got given some item you have to pay tax
on what it's worth as an income a lot of people
don't realize I didn't realize that no if I
if I get let's say
I get given well I'll give you an example
an e-bike right get given
an e-bike foreground that goes down
on my tax return as foreground of income
no cash was ever received
I'm getting taxed on that foreground
physical item so often
well often with promotions
genuinely often with promotions that's what I do
I just receive it to create
the content and then send it back
I only would keep the item if
I want to buy it for
the tax rate
because that's effectively how it works
and a lot of people don't realize that at all
I didn't know that did you know that
that's a stitch up I didn't know that
so I suppose
obviously if that was just allowed
free-flowing that would be get abused
completely so every time I get like a
set of tires from a car company or something like that
that's gifted it goes down as
the retail value
I thought you were going to say use it for a promo
then send it back take a rather
track and then send it back
well if it's for a promo piece like that then yes
you could do that if it's got no value
at the end but a set of tires obviously has
10,000 miles in it yeah if you're not
or you know 30 laps
yeah so
if I was doing let's say if I was doing
a video literally testing two different tires
and I was finishing them off that day and they're not
taking them home then yeah that's not
that's not a taxable income because you're making the content about that
and they're done they have no value at the end
but if you're putting a set of tires on your car that
you would have otherwise bought for normal
running and yeah that's a taxable income that's
1500 quid of income or whatever it is
yeah so that
that actually adds up quite a lot yeah
like if you look at everything I do over the year
it doesn't count
experiences or things that can't be transferred
so if it's like an invitation
for you to go to an event or something
yeah an experience that doesn't count
that's not taxable but if it's a physical item
or an asset that you could then sell
you get taxed on it
okay
I'm gonna give you
five seconds to work this out
but I reckon you know it anyway
I'm gonna do this with my fingers
how much
does your total collection cost
in maintenance
and insurance a year
I don't know the exact number
I would guess it's about a hundred grand
that sound about right
I would say
Tim won't be
five percent away
in any figure that he could have
so what I can tell you straight up
my car insurance a year is obviously it varies
with cars coming and going but currently it's in the 50 to 60
thousand a year bracket
which is disgusting
but you've got to insure it and it's always percentage of
value roughly based so one percent is always the target
and only about 50 grand a year to run all these
so like I said earlier
I have a bias to all these cars that aren't expensive
they're free servicing
so every Ferrari apart from the speciale is free servicing
free warranty so
nothing there
I would say probably every year at least one car
surprises me with big bills
so every year at least one car needs a 10 grand bill
for something you know the 4 GT
had to have some work one year the SLS had to have some work one year
GT Black Series had to have new brakes
some stuff one year
I would assume Zenvo look after your car for free
Zenvo do look after the servicing car
that was part of the deal
so yeah with 5 free
Ferrari service and the rest
most cars are around a grand a year
I don't take generally
extended warranties
I take the view that I'm well connected
with parts and companies
if I need to do some work it's also video content
it's a slightly different angle for me
and also just the way I drive the cars
and also
because a lot of the cars you've had from new
you know how they've been
I know everything about them
and I'm very very strict with my document
documentation about every car
you know you buy a car that someone else has done
15,000 miles in you don't know what
the 15,000 miles I've consisted of
and that is always the case
like the SLS needed some massive work when I bought a
obviously I bought a car with
there was only six and a half thousand on it
no idea what it did in those six and a half thousand
so yeah I think it probably comes in
including all the running costs
insurance
road tax for the whole lot
annual servicing
and whatever goes wrong I think probably 100
I would actually guess it's within 5%
of 100
that surprised me I thought it would be more
but like I say
I don't like holding on to a car that's very expensive to run
you know I know in the next year
the SF19 needs its warranty
I think that's about 7 or 8 grand a year
so that will add to it that hasn't been there in previous years
because it's literally four years old
like in two weeks or something
but
it swings around about it
goes up and down you know lots of the cheaper cars
the focus annual service at the Ford dealer is 200 quid
right so
and on the subject of money I love to look at
Google and ask people's
net worth
what does it say for me
because number one it's not like me asking you
does that be such a rude question to ask your net worth
but as you know Google
and if you look at me it's a range
so Google says you're worth 10 million
is that close
I mean it's probably not too far out
don't sit down and work it out exactly
but the cars
yes there's some finance on cars
but there's also property and investments and other things
alright do you know what your net worth is
I have no idea
I don't want to know
we need to Google Carl Hartley's net worth
someone in the comments Google
Carl Hartley's net worth
don't believe everything you read
well this is
half a billion in which case believe it
I think it comes up quite high
probably higher than what it is
one of the things I can tell you
I do know from the past
I definitely Googled
five six seven years ago
and read that apparently I'm worth 20 million dollars
seven years ago and I've been like
I wish you know
I was in the Rich List for three years
which you know
I mean that's
relatively accurate I suppose
you were in the Rich List for three years
yeah so it was
top 30 under 30
right
alright and what was that
what was your net worth then
it was
it was I think
23 million the first year
25 and 27 or something like that
was that what it was
or what they said it was
I'll leave that up to the
viewers to
aren't those things so interesting
if you ask my wife we are skinned
you
About this episode
A wide-ranging chat on hypercar/supercar definitions, brand relationships, and the real costs of owning “silly money” cars. They debate why Ferrari design choices age well, how spec and seeing cars in person change opinions, and why McLarens can be less collectible than Ferrari/Porsche. Ownership stories include a scary 1,500hp Zyrus Huracan drive, an M25 truck crash that triggered a long legal fight, and the emotional highs of cars like the F50, F355, and McLaren F1 GTR. They also touch on finance/“loopholes,” dealer-client dynamics, and tax on gifted items.
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