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About this episode
Matt and Tommy dive into detailed driver ratings from the Singapore GP, balancing performance, strategy, and race incidents. Highlights include George Russell's flawless win, Carlos Sainz's impressive recovery from disqualification, and Fernando Alonso's standout drive despite a slow pit stop. They debate the merits of aggressive moves, especially Lando Norris's bold overtakes, and discuss struggles faced by drivers like Yuki Sonoda and Pierre Gasly in less competitive cars. The hosts also reflect on team strategies, qualifying performances, and the impact of car reliability on race outcomes, all with their usual candid and humorous style.
Topics:
driver ratings
race strategy
qualifying performance
overtakes
car reliability
Singapore Grand Prix
team tactics
driver rivalries
race incidents
midfield battles
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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 Podcast with Matt and Tommy.
It's your favorite time of any post-race week.
It's driver ratings. I cannot wait for this one.
And more so than usual, actually, because may I tee up that, you know,
Tommy likes getting a little bit sassy on your driver ratings.
He speaks his truth no matter what people say at him.
But Tommy, what are you bringing to this episode that you haven't done before?
I'm bringing to the episode that I've had one hour sleep.
So that's fun. Yeah.
Unfortunately, I had a trip to the hospital yesterday, all good, thankfully.
But yes, I went to bed at 6 a.m. and got up at 7.
So now I can't wait to grade some drivers.
It's going to be good for sure.
Now, another sort of difficulty, I suppose, on top of the fact
you haven't had any sleep, Tommy, is that we saw none of the race.
You know, when you actually think of the Formula One TV direction,
which I think quite fairly has got criticism out of this one,
you have to really go into the depths of the Internet
to find certain overtakes and things like that.
Yeah. It's going to be an interesting one to grade Carla Science
when I saw more of his girlfriend than his overtakes.
But we'll see. We'll get into it.
Right. Let's start where we always begin with Gabriel Bortoletto.
Started the race in 14th, finished 17th.
I am going to give Gabriel Bortoletto a 5 out of 10.
Now, I believe he was a little bit unlucky
with the fact that he picked up damage at the start.
I think that kind of forced him into a pretty terrible strategy
as well by pitting very early, lap 14.
He came in for a front-wing change
and then had to basically eke out the rest of the race from there.
So I'm not going to really downgrade him for that
and the fact that he finished 17th.
It wasn't the worst place to start,
but then I guess his qualifier wasn't great.
It's a 5. It's not great, but it's not horrendous.
Yeah. I've gone for a 5 as well for Bortoletto.
Disappointing race really, Sal,
but really not been with it since the summer break.
They had that amazing and particularly Bortoletto,
that great run of form,
but not a particularly great race from him.
But maybe not as bad as some believe.
No, no.
When you're forced into an early pit stop round Singapore
when everybody who did well stayed out till lap 300 on the media.
Yeah, exactly.
It tells you everything you need to know.
The fans gave Gabrielle a 4.
Nico Holkenberg started the race in 11th, finished 20th.
I've gone for a 3 out of 10 for Nico Holkenberg.
Maybe this is a sign to keep qualifying badly
because as soon as he qualified well, he had a really poor race.
Yeah, he finally got his qualifying sorted
and then didn't go to plan.
Of course, probably the only driver
to have a proper major moment as well.
Although I will thank him because it put
to any doubt Matt's prediction of the LF lags.
So as much as I want to give him a 10, I'm not.
So three for Nico Holkenberg. Disappointing one.
It was disappointing.
My prediction for him was that top 10.
Was it a Patreon? I think it was.
To get a point for Holkenberg, which looked promising after qualifying.
P11.
But yeah, a massively notable error from him
careering down the runoff.
Almost collected a car as he spun round.
The front wing damage, I think, again,
he was a little bit unlucky with that one.
The error was basically the nail in the coffin
for any potential points on the table.
Although again, I think Salba didn't help him
with the strategy of pitting him quite early.
And then he base, well, yeah, he just got stuck
behind everybody that had stayed out
and it just felt like the wrong strategy call.
But that being said, it is still a three.
The fans gave him a three as well.
Alex Albon started the race from the pit lane
after being disqualified and qualifying
and finished in 14th.
I have gone for a six out of 10 for Alex Albon.
It was okay.
Made some progress.
Still quite a way off the points.
Did a similar strategy to signs.
I think William's got it absolutely right
to stay out there.
Definitely helped by some other cars
that were going insanely slowly
to keep the pack all together.
But yeah, for Albon, he'll look at signs
and go, yeah, actually, maybe there were some points
on the table, but it's not a horrendous grade
from finishing 14th because he started from the pit lane.
Indeed.
I've gone for a six as well for Alex Albon.
Pit lane starts p14, nothing crazy,
but certainly not a terrible race.
But of course, similar strategy,
very almost identical to his teammate
and his teammate obviously made better use of it.
So that's why it's a six.
The fans gave him a six as well.
Carlos Sainz started the race in 18th finished 10th.
I have gone for an eight out of 10 for Carlos Sainz.
Disqualified, qualifying, started p18, of course,
and got those points.
Made all those brilliant overtakes
that I absolutely loved seeing on Twitter,
on Tuesday instead of the main feed during the Grand Prix
when nothing was happening.
But Carlos, yeah, amazing to get points,
but I can't give him a nine,
and this kind of will go based on kind of other grades
that we'll see later on,
which I normally base my kind of grades on,
but still a fantastic performance from Sainz
and what to turn around.
I'm hoping based on Baku and this race,
this is the turning point now
where Sainz is comfortable in that car
and he's really starting to show the driver
that we all know he is.
Okey-dokey.
I am going to give Carlos Sainz a nine
because I think it was close between an eight and a nine,
but I am going to give him his plaudits.
I believe that...
Oh, sorry, no, I meant to go,
oh my God, one great difference.
How dare you?
That is a massively polarizing opinion, isn't it?
An eight versus a nine.
I reckon if we'd seen all of them live,
maybe we would have felt slightly better
and slightly more strongly towards Carlos's grade,
but I still think it is a nine out of ten
to make that much progress around Singapore.
Again, I think the strategy did...
They nailed it, Williams,
but I think Sainz's pace was also really, really good
and it's not easy to still make overtakes.
So yeah, to score a point from that position,
I think definitely deserves a high grade,
so it's a well done to Carlos.
The fans gave him an eight out of ten.
Isaac Hadjar started the race in eighth, finished 11th.
I'm going to give Hadjar a seven out of ten.
Now you might go, wow, seven out of ten for an 11th, mate.
You score points.
Guy was, and I'm going to use a very old reference here,
like Fred Flintstone, he was literally using his feet
to go round the Singapore Grand Prix circuit.
You could visibly see how slow he was in a straight line.
How he is still finished 11th
is an absolute miracle, to be honest with you,
so I'm going to give him a seven
because he definitely does deserve the plaudits there
for somehow not finishing last, so it's a well done, Isaac.
I've gone for an eight out of ten for Isaac Hadjar.
I think, as you've said, he was driving around
a lot of the time with half an engine.
It felt like Daniel Ricciardo at Monaco
all those years back,
but of course you can overtake at Singapore
even if it's very difficult.
I think it's very fitting.
I know this didn't happen through the whole race,
but we saw on one of the only moments
we saw an overtake live,
where we actually saw Fernando Alonso go past him
and it really did look like he was driving an F2 car.
Hero of the race as well, let's not forget.
Fernando Alonso, exactly.
I think Hadjar, I know it's if, but some maybes,
but had he had a working car,
I think he's comfortably up there
with challenging Alonso for best of the rest.
I think it seems incredibly high to give an eight
for an 11 out of 10, but his car wasn't working.
And I think for him to have even almost be in the points
is a really impressive thing.
So yeah, gotta applaud him.
The fans, they don't care, six out of ten for Isaac Hadjar.
Liam Lawson started the race in 12th, finished 15th.
I have gone for a four out of ten for Liam Lawson.
I think a disappointing race weekend.
Two crashes, of course, I know it's practice,
but dense confidence going into the weekend
had to repair his car.
And you look what Isaac Hadjar could achieve
in that racing balls.
And obviously, Liam Lawson's car was working
during the Grand Prix.
And yeah, he,
Liam has shown that he can be on Hadjar's level now.
He's had, you know, he had a brilliant,
brilliant performance last time out in Baku.
But this was a really messy weekend,
a time when, you know, the pressure is on
about whether he keeps his seat.
So yeah, a disappointing weekend for Lawson.
This one very difficult to grade
because of the two crashes in free practice,
which you have to downgrade
is costing the team.
I've gone for a five out of ten for Lawson.
Without the crashes, it would have been
a slightly higher grade potentially.
He was, he was doing all right in that race.
He was ahead of signs.
He was going the long strategy on the mediums.
And then there was like a one or two lap window
between Lawson pitting and signs pitting
and signs was able to come out
in pretty cleanish air to go and attack,
whereas Lawson got very much stuck in the train
of Stroll, Albon.
So I think a little bit of luck
and Lawson was maybe in with a shout of scoring
an outside point in P10.
So I've gone for a five because that didn't happen
and obviously those crashes as well didn't help.
But it could well have been
a little bit different for Lawson.
I will change to a five then.
This is what Drive Rains all about.
You've convinced me with that little bit of
knowledge about the pit window.
So yeah, fair enough, I will go.
Obviously I've given Hadja quite a high grade as well in an eight.
So yeah, I'll change it to a five.
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The fans also gave Liam Lawson a five out of 10.
Sorry, we're getting one hour of sleep, Tommy,
just for a quick second.
How you can give Hadja one grade higher
than Lawson though, that is pretty deft.
Oh, you haven't got the fans?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
That one hour sleep.
Oh, Tommy is going to come for you.
Bearman.
Started the race in ninth, finished ninth.
Oliver Bearman receives...
Gosh, it's a difficult one.
It's a difficult one.
Is it nine out of ten?
Is it nine out of ten?
Is it nine out of ten?
Is it nine out of ten?
Is it nine out of ten?
Oh, gosh, it's a nine out of ten
for Ollie Bearman.
Close to a ten as you can tell
by my deliberation and weird squeaky noises
that I made.
A brilliant weekend from Ollie.
Don't think I can quite give him
the perfect ten score, but still brilliant
and qualifying, made it to Q3.
Completely, it has to be said,
I hate to say it because I love Estee Bestie,
but trounced Ocon in qualifying
and then just delivered a really solid race from there.
Of course, had that contact into turn one as well,
where his race could have absolutely been curtains,
but he was fine and settled into his own race,
finished on his own, and a couple of points for Haas.
So, nine out of ten.
Yeah, I've gone for a nine out of ten
for Ollie Bearman as well.
Absolutely brilliant drive.
I will say that I think it was actually
his best drive of the year.
Just brilliant all weekend.
But I can't give him a ten
when we've seen, you know,
Carla Sainz, Nika Holkenberg,
had to get podiums this year,
not saying that Ollie Bearman needs to be a podium,
but it is a ninth place,
but it's still a very, very good grade
and it's a very good nine
because, you know, he has, like you say,
trounced his very experienced teammate
and, yeah, really starting to see
some great stuff from Ollie Bearman.
I think he was really, really impressive this weekend.
Hell yeah.
The fans gave Ollie a nine out of ten.
Esteban Ocon started the race
and 17th finished 18th.
I've gone for a four out of ten
for Esteban Ocon.
Yeah, disappointing one.
You know, when you see what
Ollie Bearman was able to do in that car,
you do wonder how much,
you know, without sounding like
Lewis Hamilton in 2022,
how much like Ocon is like
experimenting with all these
easy strategies and set ups and things.
But yeah, he just can't seem to get,
whether that's the case or he just can't get
qualifying right at the moment.
But yeah, disappointing race for Ocon,
of course, the more experienced driver
and, yeah, just didn't work out for him.
We talk about crazy strategies.
That was probably the least crazy strategy
of all in this Grand Prix.
Pissing on lap 30 for mediums and being like,
cool, I'm done.
That had an Ocon crazy strategy
and all over it from P17
and they didn't do it.
Didn't do it.
Yeah, Esteban needs to pick up his qualifying
for sure.
I have gone for a four out of ten
for Esteban Ocon.
His teammate showed what was possible
in the car this weekend
and I'd like to see, you know,
Esteban mount some kind of charge again
because he has had a few,
a couple great results this year.
It's come more from the race
than it has qualifying,
but it would make it a lot easier
if he could start a little bit higher
as we saw with Oli this weekend.
The fans gave him a three.
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Franko Colopinto started the race in 16th,
finished 16th.
I am going for a 6 out of 10
for Franko Colopinto.
He, of course, beat his teammate once again,
which is going very much under the radar
at the moment.
He was running in a pretty good sort of 12th, 13th position
towards the end of the race,
but then fell away with pretty large degradation
for that wheelie bin that he's driving.
So I'm going to give him his credit there
that, again, he beats Pierre Gasly,
that I know Pierre obviously started from the pit lane
and had qualifying issues.
But once again, Franko, I think,
does deserve these kind of comments.
So I've gone for a 6.
I have gone for a 7 out of 10
for Franko Colopinto.
I know some people will be like,
oh my God, how can you give a 7
for finishing 16th?
They've already written that at least six times.
They've already commented.
And I will explain my working,
not that people will listen.
They've already made the comments.
But remember, we're biased and they're not.
Exactly.
So yeah, Alpine,
worst car on the grid now.
They're way full.
They're miles behind in the Constructors' Championship.
Even Pierre Gasly,
who we all know is a great driver,
struggling massively
and Franko has out-qualified him again.
Four from five now.
I know he had the issue.
I know he had the issue.
But he was ahead of him before.
And yeah, it makes a great start
up into 13th.
And yeah,
I was convinced that when he pitted
for mediums very early,
I was like, well, why the earth
have they gone for a two-stop?
It's a struggle with tire-deck there.
That's a crazy strategy.
And he's going to just have, you know,
finish easily dead last.
But instead, you know,
16th, there's nothing to write home about.
But he's beaten two Salbers,
a Hass and his teammate.
And, you know,
how I do my grades
is I think about that final table
where it tells you everyone,
you know, and what their point score is and stuff.
And we've discussed this
if you would
prefer as to maybe next year try something like that
where we grade drivers from
1 to 20, and we can give a bit more
of a kind of grading system like that.
But if I look at other drivers,
I'm going into a massive tangent here,
but I'm explaining my 7,
if I look at other drivers like Alex Albin, right,
he's finished 14th in a Williams,
which is a decent car,
and he's finished behind his teammate
and Colin Pinto has finished 16th
in the worst car on the grade and finished ahead of his teammate.
So it's a 7.
One hour Tommy
is really diving into the law of this
F1 driver ratings.
OK, perfect. The fans don't care, mate.
They literally don't care.
Honestly, that could have been an email,
mate. Honestly, to be honest with you,
because the fans gave him a 5.
Pierre Gasly started the race
from the pit lane after having quality issues
and finished 19th.
I've gone for a 5 out of 10
for Pierre Gasly.
It's hard to grade
someone based on
how it's, is it like woeful
or is it just the fact that their car is
the worst and I think it's
the latter that their car is terrible,
of course.
Unlucky in qualifying
to not, you know, be able
to finish his lap and have that issue
but I'll be, you know,
just in struggle town anyway.
So yeah,
it's not great,
but I've gone for a 5 for Gasly
either way.
I've gone for a 5 as well, starting from the pit lane,
obviously puts you on the back foot
and he finished, I know,
a few positions behind Collopinto, 16th versus
19th, but he was right behind Ocon
and Bortoletto at the, at the end of the race
and four seconds off Collopinto
around a track that we know is very difficult
to overtake in the worst car on the grid.
So yeah, that's a 5 from me.
The fans gave him a 3.
They reckon that Pierre Gasly
should make that steering wheel steer
in qualifying and
they don't like the fact that Pierre Gasly didn't fix it
on the fly.
Lance Stroll, started the race in 15th,
finished 13th.
Lance Stroll is going to receive
a whopping
5 out of 10. Thank you, Lance.
Very much, just down the
middle
one of the shortest interviews I've
ever heard from him after qualifying
and
he was basically just clinging on
to hope for a safety car in the middle of the race
and that never happened.
So 13th, when your teammate
has very comfortably finished 8th,
maybe even very
I did get, sorry, Hamilton
finished 7th in the end, didn't he? But 8th on the road,
it's, yeah, it's just another kind of
meh, on to the next one for Lance.
I've gone for
a 6 out of 10 for Lance Stroll.
I think it was,
yeah, not the greatest weekend, but
I think Aston Martin really
failed to deliver the car that I
expected them to have
around here. They didn't look too great.
That was a pretty good car, no?
It wasn't great. No, I wouldn't say it was great.
Alonzo literally finished best of the rest by a country mile.
Yeah, but he qualified 10th
is what I mean. It's still a
6, I'm not giving him a 10.
I know, it wasn't the grade I was questioning
about Aston Martin not delivering a car,
which I think
I don't think they were like comfortably
best of the rest like I thought they were going to be.
I think they were very much in the pack.
Yeah, of course he is. We'll get on to him later.
But, yeah,
Lance 13th
probably, you know, like
not quite in the point
it's not absolutely
woeful, but it's also
not, not better than a 6.
So, I've gone for a 6.
35 seconds off his teammate, crazy.
Right, the fans gave him a
5.
Fernando Alonzo started the race in 10th
finished 7th. We'll just let Tommy
we'll just let Tommy go now. Right, just everybody
sit back, relax and enjoy the fanboy.
10, done.
Well, that's not going to look great on the
editing, is it? That's not going to look great, is it?
Come on. Okay.
Look, Fernando Alonzo
a mega, mega drive.
I expected
Aston Martin to be 10. Say the number again because the
answer is going to be fuming with you. That was like
there we go. That's it. Give us
some energy, Tommy. It's an 11. It's a 12.
It's a 15.
Yeah, Fernando
brilliant drive.
I very much expected
him to challenge
or be best of the
rest because the Aston Martin was best of the
rest. I don't think they were. He did very
well when I don't think the Aston had
particularly great pace in qualifying to
get into the top 10 in qualifying.
So, to
then basically make his way
to, you know,
the front of that best of the rest
then have that horrendously
slow pit stop which should have just completely
ruined any chances of being able
to get points really.
And, you know, Fernando Alonzo
being Fernando Alonzo just
does Fernando things and just drives
past everyone, drops
absolute hilarious team radio messages
and
yeah, brilliant, brilliant drive
and
I said this to you
and maybe this will get into
Hamilton later, but
in a championship fight
that's been far too friendly
I'm glad to see
Hamilton Alonzo still beefing after 18 years.
That's the sport I love.
Over 7th place.
Yeah, that's the sport I love.
Yeah, we love to see it.
For me, Fernando Alonzo gets a 10 out of 10
as well.
Yeah, as I say, I kind of disagree
with the level of which
Aston Martin and the car that they had underneath them
they've already shown that the high downforce tracks
where they definitely
can perform much better, their efficiency
in low downforce tracks just
shocking as we've seen
at places like Baku and Monza.
That being said Alonzo
should he have still finished 8th or 7th
obviously after Hamilton's penalty
with that 9.2 second pit stop, I thought it was done.
You know, of course I good surprised him this weekend
and when I saw that
he's going to struggle to get a point now
but he just flew through the field
not that we saw any of it
but we saw the replays
on Monday morning
and that was great
but a brilliant drive from Alonzo
and I sincerely hope that
he gets back towards the front
we got that snippet as you say
of the team radio, I need more of that
I need just...
and then Hamilton going on Instagram afterwards
and dropping a really modern
one film, The Grey Reference
that no one else had in the UK
that was about 40
but I saw it
and I was like that is absolutely amazing
10 out of 10 for me
the fans gave him a 9
they think he should have got out of the car
and fit the wheels quickly
Tommy, don't call our listeners
come on, take that back
I know you've had one hour of sleep
I'm going to look at the grade
and I'll tell you who's pathetic
and I'll credit the people
that gave me 10
Tommy Unleashed on driver ratings
29.8% of you are
are goaded and the rest of you
right so you've just slanted
71% of our listeners
that's great, right we might have to mute Tommy
from here on in
moving on to Kimmy Antonelli
started the race in fourth, finished fifth
I'm going to lock in
a 7 out of 10 for Kimmy Antonelli
ah goodness gracious me
I know that we're celebrating
and 7 is like a good grade
well done, you showed some pace
showed some potential
I honestly think he could have
finished second this weekend
but he overdrove
overdrived
the car in qualifying
and that just
essentially put him on a massive back foot
I liked the move he put on Leclerre after he knew Leclerre
had brake issues
I obviously like it because he went past Charles Leclerre
but you know what I mean
but to finish 35 seconds
I think it was at the end
off your teammate
when he had looked so good
in practice and on the rut
it just looked like he was there
George said himself that Kimmy was literally faster
than him at the start of the weekend
so it's one of those
where you go good enough
learn from it
but there is a ceiling there
far away than what we're actually seeing right now
from Kimmy Antonelli so that's welcome for a 7
Yeah definitely
I've gone for a 7 for Antonelli as well
I think he would have
absolutely bitten your hand off for a P5
a few races ago when it was in that massive slump
and you think P5
should be a fantastic result
this is exactly what he should be doing
but unfortunately for him
he did look so quick in the practice sessions
and even you know
the Q1 and things like that
okay he legitimately could be
right up there
in qualifying here
and even after starting
fourth
loses a place at the start
and then he found himself battling
the red wheelie bins
so
yeah not good for Antonelli
to be fair wheelie bins don't have brakes either
that's good to say
but Antonelli
yeah just
it's weird to
be like quite a low grade
for
well I'd say low grade 7
same as Colin Pinto beat his teammate
so you know just more context on that one
Tommy stop giving context out of the grades
stop it
but
you sound like the comment section
yeah it's
disappointing for Kimmy
because it's a what might have been
is still a positive because he's had
two good results now
back to back and that is
he just needed that confidence but he didn't he really
he did he did you know
you look at the drivers he's beaten
both Ferraris who both did not
have brakes
and then you look and you go ah you know it's
it is a 7 but
when Russell said comfortably one yeah
like I think it's but obviously
he's a rookie so you take these things into account
the fans gave him a 7 as well
George Russell
start of the race and first finish first
it's a 10
for George Russell a brilliant drive
faultless
fantastic two qualifying laps
yes we're seeing
quite a lot of
races this year where
maybe a good majority
of the work is done on a Saturday
to win these races but
can't take it away from him to
to still deliver in very
difficult conditions
you know he looked absolutely
ruined at the end there
really long race no
respite because apparently we don't have
safety cars at Singapore anymore
and yeah
a fantastic drive
from George give him
his contract
well he's going to have one isn't he one way or another
give him the length of contract that he
deserves of course I've gone for a 10
out of 10 for George
he just
when the car is there
these are the kind of performances that George puts in
and it is
scary to see in some ways I'm like oh no
another driver that could definitely
win a world championship before my favourite driver
but look it's
you can't take anything away from him
qualifying was sensational
two laps within seven thousands
of each other and then
looked completely and utterly unbeatable
in the race as well
Max did get close but George didn't make
any mistakes he lost four almost
four kilograms of weight
by the end of the race
and you could tell that that race
was tougher for someone
like George who I can absolutely
relate to of not particularly liking
the heat and you know to still
not have that lapse of concentration
which can so easily happen we saw
it last year with Lando who's very close to
crashing from the lead I think being in
the lead is probably the most difficult one as well
because you're not chasing anybody there's
the mental strength I guess
to just stay within
your own brain
and just being concentrate for 62 laps
it's a phenomenal job from George
the fans gave him a
10 as well
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Yuki Sonoda started the race
in 13th finished 12th
I've gone for a
oh dear
I think it might have to
be a 4 out of 10
it's a 4 out of 10 for Yuki Sonoda
I was going to give him a 5 but it's
it's like pity grades
I'll give him a 5 because he's in the red bull
or give him a 6 because he's in the red bull
but it is a 4 out of 10 performance
he got lapped didn't he by his teammate
he was so far behind
qualifying again just nowhere near max
he had a terrible start as well
and just put himself
massively on the back foot
so I'll go for a 4
sad to see
and again like Baku
a little bit of a flash in the pan
but also we kind of said didn't we
when we saw Baku of like
it wasn't as good as the result
would suggest and clearly his struggles
have doubled
tripled as he
head to Marina Bay
I've gone for a 4 as well for Yuki Sonoda
I know
the bingo of
he's in the second red bull
which always makes it
difficult to rate
but he's been in that car
for a long time now
I appreciate
it's
everyone's been struggling in it
but he actually
qualifying 13th
if he makes a great start
moves up a couple of positions
he's on for a point and it's looking like a completely different race
but he dropped all the way down
to 16
didn't he even qualify 30
he qualified 15th because the two Williams
so he even got like a good
boost up the grid from that
and then drop those positions
immediately with a poor start
so yeah
not good from Yuki
at all and really disappointing
because we all hoped that
Baku might be the thing that
changed but doesn't look like it
unfortunately
Max Verstappen
Max Verstappen started the race in second finish
second
it's a 9 out of 10 for Max Verstappen
it's a very high 9
maybe again
you know him
it seems like him and
George are these
two drivers that they almost like
they can deliver like a really really good weekend
but because they're in like cars that
can win you feel like they only get
10s when they win
so yeah and I do think
that
had he put the perfect lap together
I'm not saying
I don't think the Red Bull was like
clear but I think you know
pole could have been possible
with a really really good lap
not with Lando Norris there mate
well exactly very true
but yeah
he did very very well to hold on
to second it looked like
very early on
that I think it would be like almost like a minor
miracle him finishing second it looked
like it was going to be full-threaten all over it
and the two McLarens would just be inevitable
but
instead he held on
and eroded
the championship lead again
it's funny as well isn't it
before I get into my grade
I wonder how our
obviously after the main race podcast it's our
initial thoughts isn't it after the race
you know you think it's maybe not enough
you know it's not enough of a
dent in Oscar's lead and things like that
had Max won the race
and Oscar finished second and he gained
a singular point more
I reckon you'd be there like
championships on
so weird that sort of mentality
isn't it because then you also
have the argument of like
I find it ridiculous that everyone keeps
sharing
the thing of like how Max
can win it's always like well if Max wins
every race and I was always like well Max isn't
going to win every race but if he had won
three in a row you'd be like well
maybe but second
championship off okay my grade
for Max Verstappen I am really torn
between a nine and a ten I really am
I can see arguments for both
God it's tough look I'm going to have to go for
a nine
but it's a very high nine I think that it's
again it's a brilliant weekend
for Max to hold off
I don't know the entire race
at Singapore it's hard to pass
but he still put himself in that position
with a brilliant qualifying
question mark of course over that second lap
wouldn't he have got pole wouldn't he have got pole
you know there's people flying around
telemetry screenshots and things that you're like
people can very easily
just make just share it and be like
well Max would have got pole look at this
it's yeah it would have been close
but I'm going to go for a nine
it's still a brilliant weekend
it's just yeah George Russell's won the race
and maybe the
not absolutely everything was got out of this weekend
but it's so close right I could easily
give him a ten and people would probably
question that as well so the fans gave him
a nine
Lewis Hamilton started the race and sixth finished
eighth
I am going to go for
a seven out of ten for Lewis Hamilton
yes he finished
eighth but he had no breaks
and was going to finish sixth
although may well
actually no fifth to be fair with Antonelli
and the soft tyre choice was
was a very good choice from Ferrari
and from Hamilton I guess it was sort of
it helped with the fact that he had such
a massive gap behind him that he could do
something a little bit different
but then sadly of course his breaks went
which I do not think he is
at fault for I don't think he's at fault
for corner cutting either I think everybody
every single driver in that same position
was going to do the same thing no one's going to
pull over me like alright race done one lap
from the end so yeah
I've gone for a seven for Hamilton he was looking
good this weekend in comparison to Leclerre
I was concerned
and quite rightly
concerned I think Hamilton was very much on the pace of
Charles this weekend so seven
yeah I've gone for a seven as well for
Lewis Hamilton Ferrari are
so difficult to
grade this year because
they are in this kind of
no man's land now where they're looking
like the the fourth
best car but they're ahead of the
midfield and they're just
spending the entire race just hoping
the car doesn't disintegrate so
yeah I think Hamilton
looked
all weekend
like he had
you know he was on Charles's level
and sometimes better than him as well so
if he
continues if he continues
what he did here
you know all those questions about
oh has Hamilton got it anymore he's washed
all this kind of stuff it goes completely out of the window
because I think he
he looked much stronger this year but it's still not
not you know the
this year or this race sorry this race
sorry I know that I just
to make sure
Tom Bellingham says Hamilton looks strong this year
yeah yeah well we'll find out
in the overall ratings at the end won't we
we will and yes
there we go
OK the fans
yeah I know I can tell we're nearly at the end mate
well done you're doing great
Hamilton the fans gave him
a 7 out of 10
Charles Leclerc started the race and 7th
finished 6th
I've gone for a 7 as well for Charles Leclerc
I
it was it was kind of
maybe this is
this is Charles because you expect so much more
from him that you're like
starting 7th and finishing 6th
it's not great for Vishal
and I was tempted
by a 6 but then I watched
the video of him basically
lifting and coasting the entire Grand Prix
and it's just not
it's just not fair
is it for Ferrari
and this is me the non Ferrari fan
saying this
you know
you want to see them battling they've got two fantastic
drivers
and you don't want to see
and it must be so
demoralising to just
start a race and know that it's immediately
like right we're doing this we're lifting
and coasting it can't be fun
at all
so yeah it's a 7 for Charles
I've also gone for a 7 out of 10 for Charles Leclerc
how do you grade
two drivers one with which their brakes exploded
and the other one was having to lift and coast
the entire race it's not like they're even being
unleashed to show their full potential
if I was a Ferrari fan
I'd be absolutely devastated
to watch the drivers
struggle out there but obviously with Max my boy
he's out there doing really well
I joke it's full blown
full blown depression at this
stage I've lost all hope
all delusion has gone
down the toilet for
Ferrari this year they've got no new parts
nothing's coming to the car for the rest of the year
they are stuck with their
brand new philosophy for 2025
which
Tommy you were absolutely correct at the start
of the year congratulations Ferrari have been a flop
I mean that has aged so well
yeah yeah and not like I said
with my chest that Ferrari would be
constructed champions
in fact it was McLaren with six races
to go but it's a 7 out of 10
still because I think Charles Leclerc
did a pretty good job for what he had
to manage
and that's all I really have to say on the matter
it is just sad to watch
the fans gave him a 7 as well
Oscar Piastri
started the race in third
finished fourth
well this will not be controversial in the slightest
this
I might just not grade
I think that's probably easier I'll just say he had a race
McLaren very good
to keep it fair
Piastri and Norris not applicable
okay so Oscar Piastri
I am going to give him
a 7 out of 10
because
yes he qualified just ahead of his teammate Lando
third and fifth respectively
he was very close about half a tenth I think between the two of them
Oscar then
the move
the move happens
Lando slightly out of control
gets budged wide
but I'm judging the 7
slightly on more just the rest of the race
he looked like he just wasn't able
to get close to make an overtake
Lando was on the back of Max
for 30 odd laps
and you think about the amount of time you lose
sitting behind a car in dirty air that close
so I'm kind of judging it on
potential pace it's very difficult around Singapore
isn't it to kind of really get a gauge
but fourth for the championship leader
in a McLaren that I absolutely
am convinced was still the fastest car
this weekend especially in racetrack
just purely from what we saw with Lando
and how close he was behind Max
but for Oscar it was a
incident settler
but it was nothing more than that after Baku
I've gone
four
this is so
this is so so difficult
because it depends if you look at the Norris
Piassari thing and go well he was barged off the track
and things like that
but the stewards deemed it a racing incident
it was a racing incident like Oscar did
get passed by Lando
so yeah what were you going to give Tommy a story
I'll go for an eight out of ten
I'm on the fence between
a seven and an eight and it kind of
the context
appears when you go into the next grade
but yeah
for Piassari
you're right it's more it's like
a decent confidence boost
I said this in the main podcast there are still
little worrying
signs that Piassari is
not maybe on the best form
he's not an absolutely horrendous form
other than Baku
but this is
a few times I think it's
three of the last
four now Norris
has beaten him so
yeah
he of course is
right to be
aggrieved by the turn one incident
because it was very aggressive
it wasn't very papyrus at all
and
we've said this so many times the two things
can coexist that you think it's a racing incident
but you also think Piassari is well
within his right because
he was probably super
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt
at the start as well that he was probably
more cautious because it's
land out and he thinks well nothing crazy
is going to happen here because we have this
papaya rules thing where we have to give
each other so much space and it's all got to
be lovely and fair and stuff so for
them him to get barged out the way
he's probably like well yeah like
he's miffed but he didn't
and I did expect more from him
to kind of catch up
of course he had the slow pit stop
again from
McLaren at this time it was his turn
but yeah
it's a low eight
two seconds behind Lando
exactly yeah
should they have swapped is that racing
is that part of racing now
is that papaya rules or not I don't know
obviously we're joking
the fans gave Oscar Piastri a
10 out of 10
Lando Norris started the race
in fifth finished third
I've gone for an 8 out of 10
for Lando Norris as well
again
for me Lando is kind of
a higher 8
but not enough of a difference between
the two of them
to give a difference in grade
this is just my opinion
to give a difference in grade between the two
this is your opinion to me
I know that it's different to everyone else
and not every single person
has the same one because
the series is incredibly boring
but
I actually will
say
forever that
I am glad
Lando finally got his elbows out
yes it was clumsy
and a bit messy
but I want to see some championship fight from him
and we did see that and yes
I think it was borderline
and
I can see why Oscar's annoyed
but he's going for the championship
he made an aggressive move
but I can't give him
a whole grade higher than Oscar
because
for me Oscar
was quicker in qualifying
and they were very close at the end
of the race so
it's a close but 8
okay
I have gone for an 8 out of 10
so I have gone for the dreaded one point difference
because that is
massive in driver ratings
but it's more like a 7.8 for Oscar
and an 8.1 for Lando
I think Lando was slightly better
especially in the race this weekend
he didn't deliver in qualifying
but he had a fantastic start
and undid any qualifying woes
within the first three corners
yes his move was clumsy
but it was a racing instant
racing sometimes they touch
they touch Martin
and I genuinely think that
Lando did the right thing
to just send one
he has to
he's behind in the championship
and I will also lord the fact that he
went for something
again
I do completely agree with Lando here
that when he's kind of saying
there was a lot of room on the inside
it's not like he's absolutely
something completely ridiculous
you know
Canada he held his hands up because
it was a ridiculous move to go for
and he went for a gap that wasn't there
and crashed but this
the door was open to go for it
and yes he got caught out
by Max and
made the collision but you absolutely
see why
in that situation he would go for it
because he's trying to win a world championship
and it would make absolutely no sense for me to sit here
and believe Lando went for that move when we have criticised him
so much
for not going for a move
being Max Verstappen
you know and every argument
I've seen about this is like
if that was Max
everyone would be saying like it's penalty
it's dirty driving
and maybe some people would
because people will always say that on Twitter
but I also think a lot of people would go
this is why Max is Max
while Oscar
Lando are maybe a bit more cautious
Max budges
everyone out the way and
makes the move and stuff
and Lando finally does
something like that and then gets just as much
criticism so
I'm glad
for this championship that
that has happened because
it's going to make it much more interesting
as a you know to watch it
yeah hopefully Lando has
subsequently deleted
the Empire rules in one fell swoop
with that move on lap one
and then we can all just go back to the room
Oscar Piassci will have from his brain I'm sure
8 out of 10 from me
the fans gave Lando an 8
as well
so who is our P1
for me my P1
is George Russell
a perfect weekend
it has to be a 10
from me and not much more to say
from it I look forward to George Russell winning Las Vegas
that'll be the next time Mercedes turn up
and yeah George
is my P1
indeed easily George Russell even though
Fernando Alonso was brilliant and also got a 10
George Russell was just
perfect
what a weekend
from him
what a weekend not
Friday because Friday was terrible
but who cares about Friday not me
yeah he's definitely
managed to delete any Friday happenings
with a ridiculously dominant weekend
from Saturday onwards right that is it
thank you everybody for tuning in to this F1
driver ratings for the Singapore Grand Prix
next time will be Austin
looking forward to that one Tommy
what are your final thoughts
yeah so I don't care about Friday I will
next time because it's a sprint
and we all know how
fun that makes driver ratings
and subjective and more difficult
so we love to see yeah so tune into that
one can't wait for it see
you in the comment section a little bit
and yeah lots of love have a
lovely off week and we will see you soon
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