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Jeep Cherokee XJ
This is a classic, boxy Jeep SUV from the 80s and 90s. It is incredibly popular for trail driving and rock crawling because it is cheap, tough, and easy to modify with bigger tires and suspension lifts.
Part
bypass shocks
These are highly advanced, expensive shock absorbers used on off-road trucks. They have extra tubes on the outside that control how stiff the ride is depending on how hard the truck hits a bump, making them perfect for jumping or driving fast over rough desert terrain.
Brand
Rough Country
This is a well-known brand that makes affordable parts to lift trucks and Jeeps higher off the ground. They are popular for beginners because their kits are cheaper than high-end racing suspension brands.
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Wrangler Rubicon
The Jeep Wrangler is an iconic off-road vehicle with a boxy shape where you can take the doors and roof off. The 'Rubicon' version is specifically built with extra heavy-duty parts to help it climb over large rocks and tough obstacles without getting stuck.
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Ford SVT Lightning
This is a special, sporty version of the classic Ford F-150 truck from the 1990s. Instead of being built for heavy towing or off-roading, it was lowered and tuned to go fast on paved roads and race tracks.
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Ford F-150 Lightning
This is a special, sporty version of Ford's classic F-150 pickup truck from the 1990s. Instead of being built for heavy towing or off-roading, it was designed to sit lower to the ground and go fast on paved roads.
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Fiat 500
The Fiat 500 is a very small, round hatchback designed for city driving. The 'Abarth' version is a special sporty model equipped with a more powerful engine and a louder exhaust to make it fast and fun to drive.
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Cordoba Cordova
The Cordoba was a large, comfortable two-door luxury car made by Chrysler in the 1970s and 1980s. It was designed for smooth highway cruising and was famous for its plush, comfortable interior.
Concept
overlanding
This is a fancy word for vehicle-based camping. Instead of just driving to a campsite, overlanders drive deep into the wilderness on rough dirt roads, carrying everything they need to survive in their vehicle for days or weeks.
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Stout Toyota Stout
This is a rare, vintage Toyota pickup truck from the 1960s. It has a very unique, old-school look with round headlights and is highly sought after by collectors who either restore them or lower them to the ground as custom street cruisers.
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Ford Mustang
The Ford Mustang is a famous two-door sports car. While it is normally built to go fast on paved roads, some enthusiasts like to modify older models from the 1990s by raising their height to drive them on dirt and rough terrain for fun.
Car
Datsun 620
This is a popular, small Japanese pickup truck from the 1970s. It is famous for its cool, swooping body lines and is a favorite among classic truck enthusiasts who love to lower them and customize them.
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Toyota Land Cruiser FJ45
This is an extremely rare and cool pickup truck version of the classic, vintage Toyota Land Cruiser. It looks like an old military vehicle and is highly prized by collectors for its ruggedness and retro style.
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Welcome to a smell of the nail.
Smell nail.
Nail, smelly nails, smelly nails.
Welcome to smelly nails, everybody.
That's the other podcast name.
Oh, we're not supposed to be saying that.
I bet now we got to go change the name of the podcast.
Okay.
Oh, how you doing, man?
I'm good.
Good.
Full belly, nice and happy.
I have leftovers that I'm not going to leave here this time.
Oh, that would be good.
Yeah, I've got some leftover chips.
I'm going to sneak into the house because the assistant doesn't like my chip habit.
Well, that's yeah, I was going to say I have an auto ship chip, an auto chip ship, a chip
auto ship.
That's what there it is.
A chip auto ship for you as a thank you, but it's going to your parents house.
Perfect.
Yeah.
To the shop.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Yeah.
I love it.
So you're just going to have you just just fill up, like clear, get your parents to
clear out the back room in the shop and then have like a whole like storage
cabinet full of all these chips and back there.
Yeah.
That and all the mice and rats.
Yeah, exactly.
Anyways, this is Friday's episode.
Friday.
Thank you everybody for joining us today.
Snail mail.
For snail mail.
Where did we leave off?
Oh, geez.
I like my numbers.
You always ask this.
I have never, ever prepared my Tism is strong here.
It definitely is.
Let's see.
We ended at 38.
That's not right.
Is it?
No, I didn't write it down.
No.
Yeah.
38.
We ended at 38.
We started at 47 ended at 38.
We did nine last time.
We're at 53 53.
I think I called that.
Didn't I say we're going to get over 50?
Maybe probably.
All right.
To go back and listen.
53.
Yeah.
So speaking of my Tism, just a fun story real quick for
everybody out there.
You've been really into FIFA.
Yeah.
The World Cup going on.
And I have not.
And so congrats.
You made a comment about how USA is playing side at five.
Yes.
And I was like, okay, whatever.
And then I started thinking about it.
And I was like, what round are we in?
What round of the tournament are we in?
And you're like, oh, we're in the round of 32.
And I was like, wait, how many teams are there normally?
And you're like 48.
And immediately my head started running and crunching the
trying to crunch the math for how do you go from 48 to 32 in a
tournament draw?
And then then you were like, no, there's there was groups.
And I was like, oh, so they do a round robin pre.
And I started going through trying to figure out the math of
how do they figure out who makes it out of the round robin
groups into the main tournament draw?
Sure.
And I got interested in FIFA for like 10 minutes there.
Yeah.
Great.
Yeah, you were.
Yeah.
So pretty much they let, well, did we figure they let eight extra
teams in this year?
Uh, from the normal last year, they started with 32.
Correct.
And then they had started the round robin there.
Yeah.
This year they let in 48.
So 16 extra teams.
Oh, six.
Yeah.
No, but they didn't eliminate 16 extra teams because they went from 48 to 32.
So 16 teams got eliminated.
Yep.
Okay.
So 12 groups plus four third places.
Yep.
Yep.
No, it was more than four.
It was four.
My Tism is strong to me.
It was more than four.
Pull up your graph again.
No, we don't need to dive into it right now.
We got snail mail to do.
Okay.
But yeah, we'll talk about it on Discord.
Yeah.
All right.
That's what I should do.
I need to start a World Cup.
I think you have a few people interested in FIFA and the World Cup on Discord.
So having a dedicated World Cup channel, I think would be smart.
It'll last for another month and then we can close it.
Yeah.
All right.
So we're going to go back here to text message because we flew right on past that
date last time.
Okay.
So we're going to start off today.
Snail mail with a text message.
Oh my God.
Wait, no, okay.
No, he's just texted a lot in the past.
Okay.
Jimmy's post had me craving some extra spicy ramen started with a spicy one and
kicked it up with a large helping of chili crunch.
Yes.
I like it.
There's a picture of something that looks like a Teletubby shitted out or
something.
I love it.
It's like bright red.
It looks good.
That looks painful.
I wish does he is the link above the one he had?
I don't think so.
I think it's in bummer.
Yeah.
I did a post a while ago of like this super spicy chili thing that the
mini assistant bought me from like the Korean market.
Okay.
It wasn't that hot.
So I added more spice to it.
Gotcha.
Uh, it made me, it made my nose run.
So I was like sniffling in the middle of it.
I, my, my throat was hurting after the, uh, what was it?
The sugared jalapenos or whatever that one time.
Sugared jalapenos.
Yeah.
It was like a sweet jalapeno jar of sweet jalapenos and like I got, uh, for
some reason, a really spicy one.
I just started coughing and you're like, what's wrong with you?
These are sweet.
These are like candy.
And I was like, this one was not sensitive.
He has a sensitive throat.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Yes, I do.
I need throat numbing spray.
All right.
Uh, voicemails, voicemails.
Here we go.
One, uh, Richard from Atlanta, Richard.
What up, buddy?
There we go.
Well, this is a Richard from Atlanta.
It's like starting off my voicemails like that.
Anyway, what's going on, Tyler?
And uh, Jimmy, um, been a minute since I left the voicemail, it's, uh,
Friday, March 29th, little excitement in my voice.
I just went to O'Reilly and picked up two quarts of 10 W of 30 and some
automatic transmission fluid.
And, uh, the wife and I went and, uh, cleaned my car trailer up at the
car wash, sitting over my parents driveway.
It's got like some residual tree dirt and crap on it.
On these days, I'll be able to have a building to put my trailer inside of,
but anyway, uh, the excitement in my voice.
We are officially, when my wife gets off work, going to be underway to, uh,
drive up to Chattanooga, Tennessee, where, uh, on Memorial Day, we stopped by and,
uh, with my boys and the family, Test Grove and XJ, I think I'm getting ready
to be the owner of a shit box dumpster XJ, gentlemen.
Um, pretty excited to get my boys in a Jeep for their first vehicle.
The owner, uh, you know, dropped the price posted it.
We went and looked at it on the way back from Tennessee last weekend and, uh,
made her offer her an offer, uh, lower than what she's got it listed, uh,
cash offer, of course, and, uh, she accepted.
So, um, yeah, they were super cool.
They're mid, mid twenties dudes, a recruiter.
She's in the services, drives the thing back and forth.
Occasionally to Pennsylvania.
She has since upgraded, I guess that's the word, uh, created other problems for
herself.
She now drives like a Toyota.
She's got like bypass shocks and shit on it.
So anyway, I don't know.
It's been a girl, XJ, um, some mods taste full.
It's got like rough country shit on.
I'm not worried about that, but it's a perfect vehicle for my boys.
I gotta sort through some things, but anyway, we're going to be, uh, heading
up the road, so wish me luck.
And, uh, as is, we're going to be meeting up with a group of guys that we actually
wheel with, um, in Tennessee with, uh, our Rubicon, um, we're meeting up with them
tomorrow to go do kind of a stockish friendly ride for a few hours.
So yeah, we're going straight from the owner to VRBO, after the trail tomorrow.
And, uh, wish me luck.
I'll report back, keep growling.
I hope this damn thing keeps running.
See y'all.
Was he talking about the XJ right there at the end?
Yeah.
Are you not talking to Richard?
Do you have your microphone down?
All I gotta say, Richard is pick me up a bottle of chat whiskey.
I want some chat whiskey.
If you're headed to Chattanooga, I need some chat whiskey.
He's already gone now.
I know.
It's a month later.
More than a month.
That's about a month.
He said May, it was May 29th.
Not, he said March 29th.
It was May 29th when he called everybody.
Oh, okay.
So you can't give us that much shit.
Yeah.
Um, that would be funny though.
People are just like, Hey, it's Jimmy.
I'm calling in.
It's October 31st, 2025.
It's like our reviews.
Right.
Um, not, I think the XJ will stay running for you the engine.
Those engines in the XJ is the inline six is the four leaders.
They're one of the best off-roading motors engines you can get, um, out there.
It's super reliable.
Um, but I'm just so disappointed.
Yeah.
I had a Cherokee for my first rig.
Yeah.
How'd that go for you?
Yeah.
My parents turned it in for the lemon law.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They got cash back from the government and they gave the vehicle to the government
and then we bought a Toyota.
Yay.
Yay.
See?
So, uh, if that's what you're going for, Richard, you got a good path going for you.
That's funny.
And I hope you listened to the conclusion of Thursday's episode
because you'll find that hilarious, Richard.
Oh, yeah.
From yesterday.
Yeah.
Cool.
Uh, next up.
Okay.
Uh, Donnie.
Donnie.
Donnie, Donnie.
Donnie, huh?
Not Donald or Don or Donaldson.
This might be Donaldson.
Okay.
Yeah.
Here we go.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Uh, you know, calling you in traffic, you got to be careful with that.
Anyway, uh, yeah, I wrote it down here.
Calling in for, uh, my man, uh, it was Richard there from Atlanta.
Yeah.
He's, uh, first of all, yeah, on the man purse thing.
Yeah, that's just a no.
That's just a hard no.
Anyway, uh, yeah, we can move past that.
Look, I believe you said before, didn't you?
You've got a first gen lighting sitting around.
So clearly a man of class and taste, uh, speaking as a former owner
of a couple of those myself.
Now you're also talking about, you know,
maybe you're looking for something a little more unique in your next build.
You know, cheap might be a little too easy, common.
You know, they're all kind of cookie cutter.
Now you, you said something about Toyota's.
Don't even mess with that nonsense.
Clearly, clearly, you know where you want to go.
You need a Rover.
Obviously you want something interesting and cool and unique.
You want a Rover.
Now, if you tell me at some point you ever raced Italian cars,
I'm going to think you're my lost brother.
But for now, we know what you need to do.
No man purse.
Get yourself a Rover.
Keep that first gen lightning.
I wish I still had mine.
And you're all good.
You're set.
You're made.
You're golden.
You're there.
You don't have to drink any, uh, these, uh, pormosas.
You don't have to, uh, you know, have your RGB, LGBT lights going or anything.
You don't have to do all that.
Have a little clap.
So we're fine.
You want to do it.
You know you do.
Just, just, you know, just go ahead.
Take the punch.
You won't regret it.
Maybe.
That's all, uh, keep up with the crawling, uh, all that stuff.
And, uh, we're not going to talk about Jimmy's fanny pack.
That's all.
I would happily love to report that Richard upgraded.
Yeah.
From a Rover.
Exactly.
Yeah.
To the Jeep.
To an XJ.
And, uh, uh, Donnie, I do think he, uh, did race, uh, Italian cars, uh, when he
was doing his fast stuff.
Did he?
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
Yep.
He, uh, he went, he was racing Ferraris.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Yeah.
And then he got into Jeeps.
Oh.
So I mean, they are fiat now.
So that's pretty.
Yeah.
So there, those are Italian race guys.
There you go.
Hey, that little fiat 500 a bath is pretty cool.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Sure.
I don't know what Donnie raced.
I forgot.
It was like alphas or something like that.
I don't remember.
But, uh,
It's probably he wouldn't have raced something else.
What was I thinking of?
Um, oh my God.
What is the Joe?
No, a Jaguar.
That's what's a Jags.
Yeah.
That would be right up his alley.
Yeah.
Let's get into another vehicle that has electrical problems.
Oh, that's funny.
All right.
There you go.
So that's Donnie Donaldson.
Yeah.
Thanks for calling Donaldson and your race car driving.
He called back.
I don't know if I want to listen to this.
It's 10 seconds long.
You know what he says.
Uh-huh.
Can we just skip it?
Oh, go quick.
Just rip the bandaid off.
Okay.
Okay.
Ow.
Hey guys, just because traffic trying to kill me,
you think I forgot?
I didn't.
We all know Toyota suck.
He's out.
All right.
Thanks.
Thanks, River John.
Love you too.
All right.
Uh, Nick from Montana.
Okay.
Here we go.
Nicholas.
What's up?
The, uh, ravishing raccoons.
It's Nick from Montana.
Calling back for Richard from Atlanta.
Uh, purses up here.
Man purses up here generally mean there's a gun.
I don't know.
Definitely, definitely probably a gun in there.
So, you know, it's probably about as gay as a Jeep is.
It's a pretty gay.
And there's something else about Australia that you guys were talking about.
Anyway, it reminded me of the Australian that called in.
I don't remember your name.
I don't really care.
Uh, this is America, but we don't need engineers telling us what to do with our trucks.
Uh, if we wanted that, we would have maybe just started off as a prison colony and then
never fought back against the British and won our independence.
So, uh, suck on that and enjoy your 35s.
Also, I'm not going to take advice from somebody whose army got defeated by a bunch of
fucking birds.
Yeah.
Look at the great emu war, uh, when the Australian army fought a bunch of
flightless birds and lost.
Uh, so yeah, enjoy your weird birds you 35.
Fuck Texas.
I don't know what to do with Nick sometimes.
I'm sorry.
There's a great emu war that Australia lost.
I don't know.
Nick did not hang up.
Nick.
What the heck Nick?
Uh, stop.
All right.
Um, all right.
So apparently there's a great emu war of Australia that Australia, uh, army lost too.
All right.
This is all news to me.
I don't know.
I wouldn't put Nick as a liar like that.
I wouldn't either, but he also has a lot of random hilarious information.
Fact stuff.
So, uh, maybe we need, there isn't an Australian did call right after Nick.
Really?
Yeah.
So we do have an Australian up next.
That's funny.
All right.
So what were all the things?
Uh, I got totally distracted by the emu war.
Man purse equals gun.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
I think you said that.
Yep.
That a lot of people are, they carry their guns in their, uh, man purses or fanny packs.
And then I lost track of what he said.
Australia lost emu war.
Yeah.
He said it more or less.
He was against on the Australian guy calling in and engineers and, and engineering your
vehicle and where America, we can build them how we want.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We kill people like real men with our vehicles.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Um, all right.
So let's see what the Australian rebuttal is here.
Shall we?
So here we go.
Yeah.
Great.
Charles from Australia, bringing about the fanny pack.
Obviously we don't call it a fanny pack.
We call it a bomb bag.
Still wouldn't wear one.
But anyway, yeah.
If you know, you know, keep crawling.
Okay.
He still didn't explain what the word fanny means.
Fanny's, I thought was butt.
Nope.
That's fanny in United States as a butt.
Yeah.
Fanny in Australia is something else.
Charles, I need to know what fanny means.
You need to call in and tell me what the Australian, I guess, slang for fanny means.
What does it mean?
Define fanny for Jimmy, please.
So if you're packing a fanny, what does that do?
Yeah.
What does that mean?
I would pull up Gemini and make Gemini tell everybody right now, but I think it would
be so much more funny coming from an extra Australian accent person.
Aaron or Charles or Ozzy from South America.
You guys need to call in.
Not South America, South California.
South California?
It's South America.
That's pretty much South.
Let's do the England or South America.
One of those two.
I was watching South Africa.
That's that one too.
I was watching, I like watching this guy.
I don't know what his Instagram handle is, but he asks like random facts about the world
to people and he must work in a big building of some sort.
And he'll just walk around and ask people like, you know, the one that I found that was funny
was how many countries are in North America?
Oh, okay.
Do you know?
In North America, just three, right?
Nope.
Countries in North America.
Correct.
I don't know.
I would assume I don't know where the cutoff for North and Central America is.
Yeah, exactly.
There is no Central America.
When you talk about continents, North America goes all the way down below Panama.
That's fair.
There is no such thing as the continent, Central America.
Well, you didn't ask about the continent of North America.
Well, that is North America.
North America is from Panama to Canada.
Okay.
America claims it says there's a Central America.
So if you go to Europe and you say, I traveled to Central America, what do they think?
I have no idea.
I mean, they would probably assume it's Mexico or somewhere below.
So if the majority of the world knows the region between Mexico and Panama as Central America,
I don't know if they'd know Central America in the rest of the world.
I think the rest of the world calls it North America.
Interesting.
It's only Americans that call it Central America.
Interesting.
Oh, I did not know that.
So there's something like 30 countries in North America.
I don't remember where it was.
25 to 35 somewhere in there.
But that was one that I knew, but a lot of people in his videos were like three.
And then they're like, oh, are you counting provinces?
And then he's like, no, well, those are countries kind of, you know, but
and then they're like, but those aren't in North America.
And he's like, correct.
So it was super funny.
But yeah, I like this guy's funny.
He does some good, good things, some random ones.
Like, I don't, I don't remember.
He's like, what was, what is the largest city that's furthest away from any other city,
you know, any other major city?
And I don't remember what the answer is, but it was, it's questions like that.
I'm like, I have no idea.
What is it?
I'm not the best at geography, but I enjoy his questions.
Okay.
Yeah.
Nice.
Cool.
One was, oh, what was the land largest land locked country of the world?
The largest land locked country.
Russia touches water.
Correct.
China definitely touches water.
India definitely touches water.
Land locked country.
I would guess it's something in Africa.
Okay.
I have no clue what the African countries are called.
Yeah.
I still sound Africa, Uganda.
I thought it was Morocco, not Morocco.
Dang it.
I'm just blanking on the name.
The one that's between China and Russia.
Madagascar?
No, I can't remember what they did.
But the actual answer is Kazakhstan.
Kazakhstan.
Kazakhstan.
Yeah, Kazakhstan.
That's where Borat's from.
Is it?
Yeah.
So that's the largest landlocked country in the world.
Yeah.
It's just stupid stuff like that.
And I'm like, oh, cool.
I didn't know that one.
Yeah.
Dang it.
Where are the monks from?
From like in Chinese, Chinese.
Mongolia?
Mongolia.
That's what I thought it was.
I don't think Mongolia is a current country, is it?
Yeah, it is.
Sure it is.
Is it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Mongolia.
So I thought it was Mongolia, but Mongolia is number two.
I was close.
You're close.
Better than I got.
Yep.
All right.
That's enough of that talk.
I'll put a link to him down in the show notes.
He's a lot of fun.
Sure.
Yeah.
Next on up is Mark.
Mark.
Mark all the four by four.
Nice.
All of it.
Here's all of them.
Here we go.
Gentlemen, this is Mark of the four by four.
Just listening to Niall Mail and Had to hit you guys up.
That guy from Atlanta, he's showing his insecurities or something
or other about having a bag around you.
Yeah, you know, I everyday carry.
So I've got a concealed carry.
I also carry a knife, carry a couple of bandages in my bag,
all my credit cards, some antiseptic, and a bunch of other stuff.
Pair of glasses for reading.
I switched them out.
My sunglasses, I said one of the most useful things I've carried.
Yeah.
So, you know, I think you're showing a few insecurities there.
Never mind.
We get that.
You know, there's some of those guys a bit like that.
Now, you know, the other thing is, you know,
you're asking Aussie to call in about the old fanny pack.
You know, in Australia, we have a few words for what that might be.
Let's start off with the one that's completely unfamily friendly.
So if you've got kids listening right now, close their ears off with something or other
or change the channel, turn your volume down.
So for us, the fanny is a female's cunt.
Sorry about the language there.
Pussy, kitty cat, whatever you want to call it.
So no one in Australia really walks around talking about where's my fanny pack because
we will be happy to show you if you're asking about it.
Then I'm going, maybe that government land has got one instead.
Yeah.
So, you know, really, I know in Australia that some people have bum bags,
you know, which is the one that goes around your waist.
And you can every day carry with that one.
I've actually got one of those as well.
It's a ripstop that looks like a bag, but your weapon sort of sticks down the side of
the trails or a bit.
So your ripstop on the front of it and you draw straight from there.
Some people might have seen them on Chinese versions.
Anyway, guys, hey, deep rock and rolling.
I'm about to jump onto Holcomb Creek Trail here in Big Bear, California and do some rock crawling.
Unfortunately with about 10 jeeps, but what are you going to do?
Okay, guys, catch you later on.
Good on you, mate.
Bye.
I'm so happy that Australian called in to explain a fanny pack to Jimmy.
That was awesome.
Yeah.
So that guy, Mark is our Southern California Aussie.
Yeah.
The one that was, I believe, the engineer, the guy that I believe Nick was yelling against.
I think we'll come full circle if I'm connecting those dots right.
But yeah, Mark, thank you so much.
That was hilarious.
I was laughing pretty hard.
I had to pull the mic away from my mouth.
That was awesome.
Thank you for letting us know.
Hopefully that cleared things up for Richard in Atlanta as well.
And Charles, I'm a little, I'm sad that you didn't clarify that for us.
Missed opportunity.
Yeah, totally.
All right.
So I had an old neighbor from Rancho Cordova.
I think it's because Charles is still in Australia.
And you know, he has like a little chip on his shoulder.
He's got a transplant.
He has to be all proper and stuff.
And Mark's now here in America.
And he's been slightly converted.
Yeah, slightly converted, more relaxed, you know, a little bit more chill.
Yeah.
So yeah, one of my old neighbors when I lived in Rancho Cordova was Australian.
Okay.
And so she, we were talking about fanny packs one day and she was just kind of
being really silent, not really partaking in the conversation.
And so we were kind of like turned to her like, what do you think about fanny packs?
She goes, that's the stupidest name for a bag.
And we were like, why?
And so she explained that it's about a kitty cat.
We were like, oh, that's funny because that's not how we describe it in America.
No, but I do like bum bag.
Bumb bag, you like that?
Bumb bag is good.
The Aussies have some good slang terms.
I love sunnies.
I love boardies and I love Mackers.
I think all three of those terms are, I've used in my day-to-day life.
And there's stuff that those are slang terms here in America that we just don't use.
But you and I will say sunnies to each other quite often.
And for those that don't know what some of those are, that's sunglasses.
And I think that one's kind of obvious.
Boardies is board shorts and Mackers is McDonald's.
Okay. I didn't know the Mackers one.
Yeah. Mackers is McDonald's.
I never go to McDonald's and so I never really ever use Mackers.
But I think that slang term is way better than Mickey D's.
I think that they just have fun with life.
They come up with fun little nicknames for things.
I think they're just drunk all the time.
It could be.
And they slur their words and that turns into a term.
That's what they turn into.
Yeah.
Now it's like, I don't have any queries.
I think my boardies to Mackers.
Thank you, Mark.
Yeah. Thanks, Mark.
And I also love how so far everybody's just been kind of bagging on each other.
And you and I get, we're not the targets anymore.
Yeah. This is great.
All right. Should we deal?
Where are we at?
We can do one more.
Yeah. Let's do one or two more.
This one is Justin from Texas.
All right. Justin.
Here we go.
Hey, guys. I've been doing well.
This is Justin from Texas.
I just want to talk a little bit about Gaia, GPS, and On-X off-road.
I've used Gaia for years for trips to Colorado or Arkansas or wherever.
I guess you call it overlanding, especially I hate that word and how popular it's gotten.
And I've been subscribed to On-X for a couple of years now.
And as much as I want to allow the app, I was hoping to use it exclusively for this trip
and fully commit both Gaia and Texas are doing a better job supporting the off-roading community.
But they do not, the app does not allow you to download offline maps to your SD card.
For example, I've got an Android tablet that I use for navigation bigger screen.
I could stick a 6-fat, 1-terabyte SD card in there.
However, when I try to download maps that are offline in On-X,
the only option is internal memory, which is limited to on this device, 64 gigabytes,
which is gross and sufficient for my nine-day trip across the semester with Colorado.
I'm going to download everything and just not worry about it.
I don't want to have to worry about downloading things every day, the night before,
if I'm even getting anywhere where I should have done it.
So I'm just going to have to be super disappointing.
So I'm just going back to just downloading things like Bubble Colorado.
A lot of you might go to offline from Gaia, and I guess I'll just use that and refer to Gaia as honest as I can.
That's a big miss.
I wish they would, you know, if you've got internal contacts there, get them to fix this.
Please, please ask them to make a freaking demo to this turtle SD cards or the SD cards you put in.
And then the other thing is, instead of selecting all those little rectangles,
but at the time, it'd be nice to be able to say, hey, give me Colorado.
I've got plenty of memories.
Download all of it.
Or you know, figure sections.
Anyway, that's all.
Let's go.
Do it well.
Keep crawling.
Bye.
I did not know that was an issue.
I did neither.
I've never paid attention to it.
I just sort of downloaded it.
Yeah, I just, I don't run SD cards on my phone.
I don't run a tablet in the vehicle anymore either.
I don't think modern day phones let us add SD cards.
No, mine doesn't.
I just got a new, the new S26.
And I was looking all around it to try to add more.
And there's no other options.
But I do understand how like a tablet that only has 64,
but then you can put a trigger card in that that would be a way better feature.
Yeah.
So maybe they're, and I'm not, I'm not trying to put words in their mouth,
but maybe they see that most users use it on a cell phone.
And there's no external option for storage with that.
Maybe.
But I guarantee there is still a large group of people with tablets.
For sure.
I think in the vehicle, OHV, OHV recreation community,
there's a lot of people that still use tablets.
I think in like Onyx Hunt or Onyx Backpack, whatever,
and you know, less vehicle ones,
that their people are probably using their phones more.
But yeah, I think that's a feature that needs to be in there for sure.
Yeah, I agree.
I think for the off-road community.
Yeah.
I mean, when we were doing Trail Hero X and using Onyx every day,
it would have been really nice to have a tablet.
I asked you before we left.
I'm like, do we, should we get a tablet for this so we can like have a big screen?
He's like, and Tyler's like, oh, I've always done fine with my phone.
And there was a few times that I think a tablet would have been
nice to have a bigger screen.
My big issue with Onyx and in the car on the phone was that I think we're just
trying to use my phone for too much.
We had to use it for the ride dog.
And we're trying to use it for Android Auto and we're trying to use it for Onyx,
the mapping as well.
And Android Auto will only want to work on the Wi-Fi signal.
And so if we're connected to Android Auto, we could not run the Starlink data, right?
Correct.
And then the ride dog wouldn't work.
So yeah, it was kind of my phone kept taking over.
Yep.
Yeah, yeah.
But no, I think it would have been nice for Trail Hero X.
Yeah, I think we'll, I mean, we will pass that information on.
I have an email in my inbox right now with Griffin over at Onyx.
So I need to, when I reply to that email, I'll bring that up to him.
Yeah, perfect.
And then I do think the second thing, his second point was for just
having an easy way to download bigger maps.
Yeah, specific regions, like preset regions that you can just select a region and be like,
I'm going to be in the right around this state or the northern half of the state or
Yeah, I think it'd be neat if you had like the National Park outline.
They already have that in there.
So like you could just double tap that or hold long hold or whatever it is.
And it'll be like, do you want to download this as a National Forest or a state park?
Because they already have a lot of those outlined things.
And then, I mean, yeah, you could probably zoom way out and hold down and download all of Colorado.
I don't know how large that would be, but
it depends to what degree and scale you want to download it for.
Yeah, true.
But I think that would be an easy thing for them to do.
Also on the flip side there, Justin, it sounds like you might just need a Starlink.
Because that could solve a lot of those problems.
And you're never going to have a not offline map issue.
Yeah. Starlink or the Minis are down to, they were at $199 there for a little bit.
I think they're back up to like $250 right now.
I might buy one.
The assistant keeps telling me no.
But it was really nice to be out on the Rubicon and be able to text her.
Happy anniversary.
Hey, I'm on Lee's Starlink.
Happy anniversary.
I agree.
Yeah, there's a, I don't carry radios anywhere.
I didn't even bring a radio to Rubathon.
Dang.
Because I'm just, I have my Starlink down.
Yeah, but then you can't talk to anybody else.
I don't want to talk to anybody else.
I know.
Yeah, right.
The person that won't shut up over here.
I talked to myself in the car.
You listened to the radio.
I've got music and I'm singing my heart out.
You got pissed that your radio was interrupting your radio.
I did.
That is true.
All right.
So yeah, I'll bring up those two features.
I think those are two great features that would make usability on Onyx even better.
For sure.
That's great.
Thank you for the feedback.
And we'll be happy to pass that along.
Yep.
Yeah.
Should we do one more?
Yeah.
Let's do it.
All right.
Uncle Weirdo is back.
Yay.
He's going to tell us about camping,
glipping and beers and alcohol and the bottles again.
All right.
Here we go.
Hey guys.
Uncle Weirdo here.
It is June 4th and I was just replying back to you guys.
I guess you're reply on the methods I left out building and or restoring like
full classicals to like a rock crawler.
And I wanted to say, I agree with a lot, if not most what you guys said,
especially I think a lot of the same way.
You know, I think, you know, like Tyler, I think with you that state,
you know, I think everything should be built like a rock crawler with full suspension,
big tires, all that.
I completely agree.
They just look badass.
But I just kind of, my thought process was it just kind of sucks to see like something
really cool get destroyed.
You know, like some people, they go on rock crawler and they just absolutely,
there's, you know, sheet metal doesn't matter.
You know, they just beat the shit out of it, which is fine to be thorough.
I just think, you know, my thought was like, you know, you got this old vehicle that's never
been made more and it's probably getting limited to seeing them and then they get completely mailed.
But, you know, to each their own, to their vehicle too, as they want.
But, you know, too, your guys is talking about, you know, if it's, if you're looking to do a
build and it's got some body rust and it's not in the greatest shape and, you know,
you want to build up in a rock crawler?
Great.
But if it's already in a really good shape and status, like you guys were saying,
and it just looks really good, you know, then why build it to kind of beat it up in that
manner? But if it's already beat up, hell, go right for it.
I completely agree with that.
I think that's right on.
Quickly touch base on my dad's truck.
It's completely stock, F-250, four-wheel drive.
I want to use it.
I just don't want to, you know, my dad, when he had said, oh, you should go take it out and
wheel it.
I just don't want to beat it up.
I'll go take out four trails and kind of drive around, put it through its paces,
but I don't want to completely beat the crap out of you.
That it's pretty clean for the most part.
It runs.
It drives.
It's got like 65,000 original miles and I just want to use it in a normal capacity,
not necessary to beat the absolute absolute like shit out of it.
But maybe I'll put some pictures of it on the discord and you guys can check it out.
All right, keep drawing.
Yeah, sweet.
I mean, I think he reiterated everything we said in that episode about building old
school rigs into rock crawlers.
Sure.
I think every vehicle needs to have a big tire as a suspension.
Yeah, I don't agree.
Whatever.
I think there's, I think there's a good handful of vehicles that look better lowered.
And that does it for today, guys.
We're done with snail mail and the podcast.
Last one kicked out of the warehouse now.
I'm just kidding.
Like which ones?
A stout.
A stout.
I think the Toyota stout looks better lower than it does raised.
Did you see a bunch of the pictures from the Toyota Fest this weekend?
No.
The one in Woodland that happens.
I know the one.
Yeah, but I didn't see photos from it.
I saw, I've been seeing some photos pop out and it seems like there was
way, way more street and lowered Toyotas than there were lifted off our Toyotas.
Sure.
Yeah.
I get it.
I don't, I don't get it, but I don't.
But there are, I mean, I think, so the question to me, let me back up or the question to you.
Let me back.
What about cars?
Should all cars be lifted?
Yes.
Okay.
I got a 90s Mustang.
Let's lift it.
Fuck yeah, that'd be sweet.
I won't argue, but I just, I disagree.
I think, I don't think everybody should, everything should be lifted.
I think that like, I think a Toyota, Toyota stout is looks phenomenal lowered.
I think they look great.
I think the actual, that truck should be lowered than raised, but I would,
if I had one, I would lift it.
Okay.
Right?
I'm a fan, I'm also a big fan of the old school Datsun 620 pickup trucks.
Okay.
I think they have some beautiful lines on them.
Those look great lowered.
If I had one, I'd lift it.
I think they look better lowered, but I'm just not a lowered guy.
Yeah.
So, but I do think that there's a good handful of them.
But I also like, like we said originally and what Rekka Ra, or excuse me, Uncle Weirdo
said is that if a vehicle, if you're going to lift, change, modify a vehicle,
especially an old school one, you know, I'm thinking like 40s, 50s, 60s style.
If it's already molested, then yeah, go ahead and molest it some more.
But if it's clean and non molested and not beat up or whatever,
I would, I would just go into full restore mode.
I would not, yeah, modify it.
Like right now Blake has the, the old CJ five in my driveway.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't change it because I think it's so, so original right now
that you do anything to it.
It, I think it just kind of ruins its aesthetic.
Now, if I had a CJ five that was already lifted or stretched or done whatever,
yeah, I would change it in a heartbeat.
Okay.
So I just, I'm on, I disagree.
Yeah.
I'm like, I don't, don't find value
in, I don't need, first of all, I wouldn't buy it.
First of all, I wouldn't buy it, right?
Like I wouldn't, I'm not going to buy that vehicle.
Well, not a CJ, but this is a 50, 60, 70s vehicle.
Yeah.
If it's un molested, if it's clean and perfect or like just all original,
I'm not buying that vehicle.
Okay.
Like it's not, I'm not going to purchase it to have that vehicle in my life.
I'm going to buy one that already has the wheel wells cut or speaker holes in the doors,
or, you know, all the things or some basic, like the dash cut open to fit a better stereo
or a different stereo or whatever.
That's the vehicle I'm going to buy.
I'm not going to buy the one because I'm going to do stuff to it.
That's what I want to do.
Okay.
So I'm going to leave the vehicle that is original.
I'm going to leave it for the person that wants to keep it original.
Okay.
Wants to restore it, keep it, put it into the history books.
I'm going to buy the one that is already modified.
Okay.
So the old original vehicles are not valuable to you, but you can understand and empathize
with the people that do find a value in those.
That, yes.
That and I'm also in the mindset of like, personally, I'm not the one that's going to
want to cut holes in the doors to add speakers, right?
I feel like our old vehicle are getting to the point where just they're not around anymore.
And so the ones that are fully original, I don't want to change it.
I don't want to be the one to cut the holes in the doors.
You're being a preservationist.
Yeah, I guess kind of.
Yeah, it's like, there's going to be less and of them.
So why am I going to be the one that's going to change it and modify it and tweak it?
Where there's already a bunch of them that are changed, modified or tweaked.
Okay.
And I could just have one of those.
Okay.
That's fair.
Now that you put it that way in terms of like, instead of getting a new one,
just find one that is fucked up and get that one.
And it's probably cheaper.
That probably would be right.
It's like, I mean, you got the one that's all original going to sell for a lot because it's
all original and some purist is going to want that one.
That's all original where I want the one where they've already cut the fenders off
and made it bigger for bigger wheel wells for bigger tires and done a spring over lift and done
whatever other, you know, modifications is something.
Okay.
So here's two examples.
Okay.
I'm going to throw at you.
Okay.
I'm ready.
The FJ45 at SEMA, the T01.
Yeah.
That's a, that's an older vehicle.
That's a hundred percent.
The FJ45 is what, 60, 70s?
Probably.
1960s, 1970s.
I don't know when they stopped.
I think they stopped making 40s in 81, but I don't know when they stopped importing and
bringing in 45s.
Okay.
So that, that FJ45, that was at SEMA.
Did you prefer it the way it was?
I mean, because it was a clean body.
Was it?
It was a very clean body.
Do you prefer it the way it was, or would you have preferred it to be a stock FJ45?
Isn't, I don't know the difference of the way, I don't know what it was.
Oh, it was the one with the...
You mean the way it is now?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Not was past tense.
Not was past, the way it is now.
So the way it is now with the extra track underneath and the, is it a solid axle?
I'm pretty sure.
Have you seen the FJ45 that is independent front suspension?
No.
That thing's badass.
Really?
Yeah.
Have to check that one out.
Yeah.
That's cool.
No, I prefer it the way it is.
I like, I mean, I think that thing's rad.
I don't know what it started out as.
I don't know if the body was clean or if it was just a shell that they bought that,
you know, was a good clean thing.
Or an aqualoo tub or something?
Yeah, or an aqualoo tub.
I don't know what it was originally, but I like it as it is now.
Yeah.
I mean, I agree.
I think it is.
That is a rad build.
Okay.
So if they, let's just say that for our sake of argument that they had started with a very clean
original FJ45 and turned it into that, what it is now.
Are you, which side are you on?
I don't know.
Are you going to chastise them for?
No, I think not.
But they're also not built.
I don't, they're not building that to destroy it.
Probably somebody down the road will buy it and destroy it.
And it'll get driven into the dirt to some extent, but they, I think they built it to
make another really clean, cool vehicle where I don't, I think, I think my line gets like,
if you're going to like raise in it or like, you know, if you're going to get this old vehicle
to just go beat on, right?
You're not making it, you're not making a show vehicle.
Okay.
That's fair then.
I would agree to that point.
And if you're going to, I think, yeah, okay, I got it.
If you're going to take a vehicle and plan on beating the crap out of it.
Yeah.
Then don't start.
Don't start with a really, don't start with a clean vehicle.
I will agree with that one, with that sentiment for sure.
If you're, yeah, exactly.
So if you're going to get a vehicle that you're going to want to build into a rock crawler and
you might lean in against the wall and you're not going to be too, you're not going to be
upset about it, then don't start with the cleanest vehicle out there.
The one that's pristine and stock and could be preserved in an auto history museum.
Yeah.
Right?
Start with the one that is already a little rusting or doesn't have all the doors or,
you know, doesn't have any interior in it or whatever.
Start with something like that because it's,
it would take, it would take more to build that to a pristine vehicle than,
you know, than having somebody get that pristine vehicle.
I don't, yeah.
I think that makes a lot more sense.
I was, I'm under the assumption that the argument was that you just,
the goal is just to preserve pristine vehicles, no matter what, whether you're,
whether you are taking that pristine vehicle and making another pristine lifted vehicle out of it.
Yeah.
Rather, or I'm not necessarily willing to, because I prefer keeping the old original vehicle
pristine rather than taking it to beat on it.
I agree with that.
Yeah.
But like, if you're going to take an old original vehicle and make it a pristine,
really badass build, I would rather see that.
Sure.
Than an old original vehicle.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm for that.
Okay.
I just, I think there's a place for all that.
I think there's a, for sure.
I think you can even lower it.
You know what it might look interesting.
No, you can't lower it.
But, you know, I think, yeah, I mean, I think we're beating a dead horse here.
But I, that's the right way to say it.
It is.
I was, I was trying to think of a way to fuck that up really quick.
Yeah.
And I think we're beating the cow.
There you go.
You know, like.
Beating a live cow at this point.
As we throw the cat across the yard.
Yeah.
If it's, if it's clean and original, like Uncle Weirdo's father's truck sounds like it,
you know, it's take, give the vehicle the respect it deserves.
Go take it down fire roads, take it out camping, take it on, on the, some off-roading trips,
but don't take it on the Rubicon.
Don't take it up for dice.
Don't take it out.
You know, maybe Cowell Mountain's fine because that road seems fine.
But, you know, if it's really overgrown, maybe that's not a trail that you want to
go down because you want to keep the paint as it is.
You know, use it to your extent.
But I think if it's really a pristine clean vehicle, then, you know, try to keep it that way.
But if it's already thrashed, then lift it, cut it, chop it, split it, stretch it, whatever.
I don't care.
Bop it, pull it, twist it.
Yeah.
That is when you want to build the awesome rig that like that vehicle's already
has been through some shit.
So make it into something rad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cool.
I like it.
Okay.
Do another one.
No, I think that's good.
All right.
That does it for today, everybody.
Thank you everybody for calling in and giving each other a hard time.
We always love it when we get to help stir the pot.
Oh, yeah.
The proverbial dead cow pot.
So thanks for calling in.
If you guys have any feedback for us, make sure you give us a call and leave us a voicemail.
And we'll play your voicemail just like we did these today.
It's 916-345-4744 is that phone number.
It's also down in the show notes for you.
So check it out.
Give us a call.
Let us know your feedback.
We love interacting with you guys.
I mean, we love sitting back and watching you guys fight with each other.
It is always fun.
I wonder if somebody should make a fanny pack thing that looks like a cat.
So you got it.
I got it.
I just, I just connected dots.
Okay.
All right.
That's got to happen.
All right, everybody.
Have a good weekend and bye-bye.
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- Text: Listener says he loves hot ramen
- Caller 1: Richard from Atlanta is buying a dumpster
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