Snitches Get Stitches

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Speaker 2: Happy Saturday, America.

Speaker 3: You're listened Let's Talk Cars Radio on WKQA Freedom Radio.

I'm your host, Big Davy P hanging out with Camra Chaos and of course NATEVB. Hey, guys, I know I'm

gonna start with by saying, I understand the weather is not ideal for a lot of people in a lot of different places. So if lucky enough to actually be

out there and enjoying a car show and listening to the show at the same time, why you guys are hanging out. I'm happy for you because there's a lot

of people that aren't. There's a lot of cars that. Man,

I got pictures and pictures and pictures of really nice cars that are underwater, Like I just like this makes you cringe. Ortun yeah, I mean it's it's been everybody's like, hey,

I thought i'd send you what's going on here? You know,

it's pictures of just you know, really nice.

Speaker 2: But if you're looking to get rid of it, it's you know, it's a great way.

Speaker 3: If you're upside down on it and you're looking to part ways, you got real lucky. But no, I mean,

so now you know what's gonna end up happening, right, So, as I always say, they end up at the auction, they just end up going to auction. So you're gonna

see just a flood of classic cars and nice cars and stuff that gona end up at these you guys know the name of all the I don't need to give you all the auctions, but you guys know the auction.

They're gonna be loaded with them at some point in time, and that's is gonna be what it is.

Speaker 4: Let's start picking through them there is because every time more cars, I mean, yeah, you won't find these a pick and pool, but you'll find it, like well, you know co parts one of them.

Speaker 3: You guys know, like market parts, you'll stuff up col part because it's just gonna be. It's gonna if you

look at it. For me to get as many pictures

as I get from our listeners and stuff of like what they're dealing with and knowing that they have nice cars and there's no really way for them to protect them.

I mean, because I saw one guy he put his up on center blocks. He's like three center blocks high,

and it didn't They didn't help. The car still got

water in it, So you know what I mean, It's it's sad and and and I feel for you guys.

So you guys hanging their tight because I know it hasn't gone away for everybody. People are still dealing with

it and stuff. In fact, later on in the show,

we got to kind of a segment a little what if they made an inflatable raft?

Speaker 2: What do you mean you can like drive your car on a inflatable raft almost like the U boats type of U boats scenarios, but you just float it up so in case, you know, you do get a little flooding, it just kind of like flows with the water I saw, So I.

Speaker 3: Did see something. Uh have you guys seen those in

capital encapsulation?

Speaker 2: Uh? Blow up you put your car in?

Speaker 4: You're talking about like people have thrown ladders towards they would break.

Speaker 3: I saw where somebody had put one of those and it did not come through that seal really into the car, right, So I was like, well, maybe that's And then I saw have you guys ever seen the water diversion bags that you fill up?

Speaker 2: Have you seen those? You know I'm talking I have.

Speaker 4: Because I didn't know this until very recently. If you

put sand bags around your house during a flooding, your insurance will actually pay you back for it.

Speaker 2: For that's that's not always some.

Speaker 4: Insurances will pay you for putting sand bags.

Speaker 3: Do you not remember us putting it in the backyard around the back patio And.

Speaker 2: We had that big, huge storm. Yeah, and it worth

the water.

Speaker 3: Well, it stopped the water from coming there, but didn't stop the water from coming the house because then it ended up coming down to the foundation, the foundations, the cement foundation. So but yeah, so I got a picture

one guy had put the diversion bags down, but it got higher than those, so that didn't really do anything, right, So and then somebody else had one of the encapsulation things, but the water was not The water was up I'm gonna say probably like three feet high on it, but it was inside.

Speaker 2: That's pretty impressives.

Speaker 3: And I was like, that's pretty cool. I don't know

which one it was or who makes it, so I know somebody's gonna sell me which one was it.

Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just in a picture that was

sent to me. So cool. I mean, great way to

pretent the car, great way to try.

Speaker 3: To protect something, for sure. But like I said, there's

a lot of people that were not that lucky. So

talk about luck.

Speaker 2: Let's talk about how luck runs out right.

Speaker 3: So you guys know that we have talked about in the past the whole the YouTube thing and how people are on YouTube and they're you know, doing all these stuff with their cars, and people are like, oh my god.

And I'm going to talk about the ones that have, you know, legit stuff. I'm talking about whether it's some

people out there have they've made a legit website, they do crazy stuff with their cars.

Speaker 2: They're just like, Holy God, I can't believe you're doing it.

Speaker 3: And there's ones that got in trouble there's you know, we talked about it, what two weeks ago or we go, whatever it was.

Speaker 2: Maybe they just keeping up.

Speaker 3: Right, So here's the latest. And I've always told you guys,

when you see people doing crazy stuff in these cars, like destroying the car, I've said, they don't own that car.

Speaker 2: That car is stolen. I'm just gonna let you know

right now.

Speaker 3: So to prove that theory even more, Uh, do you guys hear about the guys that got caught with the thirteen hell Cats that they stole.

Speaker 2: I heard about the thirteen hell Cats. I didn't really

dive into the story though, Right.

Speaker 3: So these guys stole thirteen hell Cats in total from all like different dealerships and stuff along that line. Right,

and then I just don't understand the thought process on this.

Decided to start posting videos of them doing crazy stuff in then of course somebody was like, wait a minute, that's my car.

Speaker 2: You know what I mean? They guy stolen. I think

the first one that they got they wanted to double.

Speaker 3: They just like a twenty fifteen hell Cat was is the first one that they got caught doing crazy stuff in, which then of course.

Speaker 2: They didn't cover their identity. So that it led the

police back to.

Speaker 3: Who they were and they come find out they are a ring of thieves that have stole these thirteen cars that they've been looking for and haven't been a refined in the smartest thing. I'm like, but here's the thing,

Like they they videotape themselves like working on the cars and taking the cars apart and taking parts off them and stuff like that, and we're making YouTube videos out of it.

Speaker 2: But the cars are stolen.

Speaker 3: And I think, like I saw something a little while back, a couple months back about somebody had said something.

Speaker 2: It was in one of the forums I was at.

I kind of think it's these people.

Speaker 3: I don't know, I can't remember, but they're like, there's how does this guy have like these many hell cats in the background, Like while he was working all he's like showing you how to dissemble. Well, they're showing you

how to disassembled because they were stripping the cars down, you know what I mean. But you see other hell

cats in the background of this video.

Speaker 2: It was made a business he was. It was he

was steal the cars selling the car. It was in

one of the forums.

Speaker 3: I was talking to people and they're like, hey, did you see this guy's video that they're like something, right, the guy's got like a bunch of hell cats in the background in the video.

Speaker 2: He's like something, well, yeah, yeah, I think I think it's these people. I can't see for sure, but I think.

Speaker 4: It was like three different individuals, and it came from California in Las Vegas, right, and somebody somebody reported about it sort of a police an investigation and went to the property owner, who then of course spilled the beans and said, yeah, they're they're paying me about two hundred and three hundred dollars per vehicle to be able to store it at this property. Oh, they're just storing at

a random property up to storing it at a random property, and they were just giving them two hundred three.

Speaker 3: Remember here with the guy, I think he's in California.

Two that they uh, I think they did a flyer with like a helicopter, like a police helicopter, and like in this backyard to go look it up. There's a

picture in this backyard or like all these luxury cars, like really nice cars just stacked up like in a neighborhood that should not have already, and they're like, well, they come back and they look at it. There's like

an aerial shot that they put on the internet and it's really nice cars. Like there were some cars I

guess that probably, like I guess we probably wouldn't be like interested in, like you know, I'm not gonna say run the mill, but like Mercedes that were like more of a grandma's Mercedes, but still you know a car, right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2: But they're all stacked up. Well.

Speaker 4: So it's funny because like, as you know, we go get all the news articles and as I'm reading through them and everything, it talks about like how they arrested them.

Back in twenty twenty three, they arrested one of them out of the three, and when he left jail, they just took images of him going and stealing another another Dodge Challenger, driving it to the scene basically like a one block away from where he was.

Speaker 2: He got arrested the day.

Speaker 3: Because I think this stuff is doesn't happen like like it does. I can personally tell you so years ago,

we had a school across the street from a business that I was involved with, and they bust in kids that got a lot of trouble. It was that type

of school, and I don't know what you call that school, but it's a it's a school for it.

Speaker 2: Well, they would.

Speaker 3: Break out of the school and then try to come to our lot and steal cars off our lot. I'm

not talking like every once in a while. This one

on for like months and months.

Speaker 2: I create a game out of it, because like, here's what happens.

Speaker 3: So in the auto field, you got to test drive cars and stuff like that, or you gotta let them run because you got to let them get hot and figure out what's wrong.

Speaker 2: So you pull them up to like by the doors, or you're letting them run. And back in the day,

they used to have the keys inside where you used to be able to people are dropping off, right, people, you know, so you deal with that.

Speaker 3: So I would like, i'd have a customer like drop the car off and be like, oh, you know, I'll have the keys in it.

Speaker 2: So there was high risk of losing the car.

Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, these kids would they would break out of this school and they would come into our parking lot and they would start checking all the door handles and every same car and look of cars are unlocked and look and see if like we're working on it.

Speaker 2: Is there a key and the.

Speaker 3: Cognition and they're trying to physically steal these cars? And

I never realized, like that's that's what really when it dawned on me that like this stuff does happen in like broad daylight, like it's not underneath the cover of darkness like that. And people have just the biggest set

of stones on them, no, like little care in the world.

If I could tell you how many people were living in it. Now, they were tackled in our parking lot.

If they break out and the police are chased them, they were tackling these kids in our parking lot and put them in handcuffs.

Speaker 2: When I say kids, they're teenagers paying the sirens. And

I had one.

Speaker 3: I literally had one that I caught him in my parking lot like four different times, and he would taunt us and would be like, I'm gonna get one, y'all.

Just wait, I'm gonna catch you all sleep and I'm gonna get one. And he would this is what this

kid would say to us.

Speaker 4: Back in the day, they used to say, hey, we left the keys in the car, Oh thank you. Now

they say we let the like like we had a car.

Speaker 3: Like I said, the crazy things happened. They robbed a

bank down the street. And we're in the city, guys,

so it's not like we're like in like some jacked up part of town.

Speaker 2: Uh.

Speaker 3: They robbed a bank right down the street and dropped this is This was pretty smart the getaway car in our parking lot.

Speaker 2: It's an auto shop lens in.

Speaker 3: Well, it didn't blend in, and the police spotted the car and they raided our building at gunpoint.

Speaker 2: Like where are they? Everybody?

Speaker 3: Get down, you know, I mean, kind of like one of those situations, no idea what they're talking about, and kind of find out we had the bank robbers car that he just pulled into a parking spot, got out, left the car there, and went about his business. But

that's crazy, as the car would blend in, Like I had.

The craziest things happened at that location. I could go

on and on and tell you guys, just stories, I mean, just the weird things that would happen there. But those

are the two things that I said. It really just

enlightened me on the fact that things happened, things happened in real life, right right, just just I wouldn't When I think about car theft, I think like people being like sneaky about it.

Speaker 2: No, not at all.

Speaker 3: There's it's just really truly just how big of a set you probably got.

Speaker 2: It's like pull it off or not.

Speaker 4: I mean, at any moment did you say to yourself, oh my gosh, GTA does exist.

Speaker 3: I felt like for almost a year until they really until it kind of died down, I felt like I was living in GTA because it seemed every day there was a kid on our lot trying to steal a car because they bust them so far, so far away from home. They were just trying to steal a car

so they could drive back to where they come from.

And we were, I mean we were right across the street from We're just a prime location, right.

Speaker 4: Which like going through these kids mind hunt Tommy left the school. Huh, there's a car missing across from the school.

Hunt Tommy somehow got Here's you don't even realize because you have like sixty cars on your lot, right, there's sixty cars out there.

Speaker 3: Out of those sixty cars, there's probably a good chance that one or two of them are running or whatever.

Because you're trying to get it hot, so you can diagnose a lot so and you're not.

Speaker 2: You're not.

Speaker 3: You don't sit with the car, guys, you just don't sit there and stare at the car for two hours while you're trying to get things hot.

Speaker 2: You test them back then, you know what I mean.

I mean, well you just didn't.

Speaker 3: I mean, now we've you know, moving on. People set

up their locations a little bit different. Right now they

can a place where they.

Speaker 2: You're not rightly on the block anymore, right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3: So, but still like it's just like I said, it was crazy to me that just the the audacity of people there go man of people and the fact that they would try to like they didn't care. It's like

there's you're at an intersection, there's people a stoplights both there are a bunch of cars and they just walk it up and they're just trying to steal a car like it's nothing. And it just tells you, I guess

how easy it is pulled off because to people to stop, it's not really.

Speaker 2: Just somebody's going to get into their car. You know,

it depends like how how much the planning is right, because obviously they're not planning the future because obviously they're not going to get the car right right, So it's not really because they think about it.

Speaker 3: If I got a car out there running and I'm trying to test it because it needs to get hot and I need to see like if is it the engine gonna start acting up once it's hotter, it is gonna overheat? Is the transfers you're gonna slip? Whatever it is.

And then I got it out there and I'm working on another car and I'm not paying attention to my backs to it. While that car is right behind me

sitting there, and they get in it and drive away, there's a good chance twenty thirty minutes might go by before I got that.

Speaker 2: Cargo, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3: Because you think about it, people move them all the time, Like the other technicians will moving to get out of way, and like that's what I tradition got it moved the car.

Speaker 4: You're thinking like another technician took it for a test driver was just trying to help you out and do a diagonal too, And you're like, oh, wait a minute, that's not what That's not what happened it is, so start counting the text. You're like, wait a minute.

Speaker 3: Just for the fact that like so knowing that and now like seeing all this stuff starting to pop up on the Internet and people stealing cars, trying to film.

Speaker 2: Themselves stuff like that.

Speaker 3: The fact that you would put your face right on video and be like, Eh, here's the stolen car as we strip it. Here's the stolen cars. I do crazy

things in it with my face all over the place.

Speaker 4: Do you think some people though, they're just like leave the keys in the car. They're like, if it gets taken,

I can tell you.

Speaker 2: And this is a later segment.

Speaker 3: I know something happens pretty regularly around here, and we're gonna I'm gonna touch on it that I can't believe that somebody hasn't picked up on yet. And I know

that it happens all the time. But it's later on

the segment. I'll tie it into that. I'll tell you

guys about it. You guys, hold, I gotta take quick

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, welcome back. So here's another one for you

that we got talking about this week. I told you

I'll jump on these forum sites and get in these deep conversations and we go down many levels into it and stuff.

Speaker 2: But something popped up, and I think it popped.

Speaker 3: Up because there's there's some celebrity status in the news this week. But they were talking about do you think

the celebrities get special treatment when they get pulled over?

Are they looking for special treatment when they get pulled over?

Speaker 2: Depends on the officer, sorry to say it that way, depends on the officer.

Speaker 4: Of the person, all of the all the person, or if he's just like a no, I'm doing my job.

Because you've seen some videos come out where they're just like, I don't care who you are. I don't care if

you're the chief of the police.

Speaker 2: You were just doing.

Speaker 3: They're like, do you mind if I get an autograph?

Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So a lot of people are.

Speaker 3: Like, and I guess it's if you guys looked. I

guess justin Timberlake was in the news again, you get you guys didn't know he got pulled over the influence like what a couple of weeks ago whatever. He had

his court case, I guess this week, and they took his driver's license from them. So I think that's probably

what sparked the conversation. Didn't pay a fine or say

and what was sent to me. I didn't see it

in the media pack that was sent to me. I

know that happens a lot.

Speaker 2: They'll how like celebrities pay like a certain percentage or commits right. It didn't.

Speaker 3: I didn't see anything with Karen might be able to find it more than I can if if he did or not. But in like the little media pack it

gave me, it just talked about it, and I was like, Okay, so obviously this is probably why this people are talking about in the forum now. I've seen a lot of

different videos have been sent to me over the years of having the show, where you know somebody the important has been pulled over and it's either gone really well in their direction or has gone really bad.

Speaker 2: But you know, I don't.

Speaker 3: Here's the thing, I don't really care either way. I mean,

I guess maybe I should care, but look, I've been pulled over, and of course I start talking and I'm pulled over, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2: Like, look, I'm not I'm trying to be nice.

Speaker 3: Whatever, there's obviously good. I mean, it's no different if

they're just celebrity and they still do the same thing.

And you know, here's the thing, Like I don't have any like access against Justin Tibber. Like maybe people do

that we're in the form, and that's the reason why maybe, like I said, they didn't mention him by name, but.

Speaker 2: It's just the conversation a little bias, and I kind of knew that.

Speaker 3: It kind of I think really kind of went with like, like you know, all around from what you see, if the.

Speaker 2: Guy pretty much stays pretty clean.

Speaker 3: With inside the media and stuff like that, he doesn't pull a lot of tench from himself. Seems to be

a pretty you know, nice guy. I've never met him.

I met a lot of celebrities. Is when I haven't met,

but I mean, on off, from what you see, he seems to be, you know, pretty earthly, I mean as ground as you can be. I guess, right for being

a celebrity. I mean, it's an unfortunate thing happened. He

made a bad choice, and you know, people move on from that. We all probably have friends that have made

some bad choices that aren't celebrities, and but you know, we.

Speaker 2: Just stop being friends with them. But do you think

he got all scott free or a little easier than some people?

Speaker 4: So it doesn't seem like he did. I mean, they

did kind of get him for for everything. I mean

they kind of got it for every or everything. So

they got on the initially hated to.

Speaker 2: Get him for a lower suspension camera.

Speaker 4: No it wasn't my car. Okay, it wasn't my car,

it was his. But they got him for a failure

out of stop signed, failure to keep right, failure to keep right again.

Speaker 2: So okay, so just kind of loaded him up with some tickets.

Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, And apparently he refused a chemical test.

Speaker 3: Or which they tell you like, okay, so he just came this conversation. If you talk to any attorney that

I've ever talked to. They're like, deny, deny, deny, Like

if you wait till you get to the police station, mc guilt. I mean, here's the thing. I'm not condoning

by any means. You guys know, I stand behind mad

and I'm not for drunk drive at all. But no

matter what, you get pulled of rose drunk driving whatever, it is like that, like you could have Okay, So I just heard something lately about the chemical balance.

Speaker 2: Have you guys seen this?

Speaker 3: Were people who've had weight loss surgery and then they drink because they get drunk easier now they have weight loss surgery, right, they don't know how to control have gotten off on DUIs for at reason? What?

Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I'm like what so I looked at because you didn't realize that it takes less for you to get drunk. Yeah, but that's something I don't feel like.

It's kind of like a personal thing. You should know it.

You probably should be. But it gives you that open defense, right,

Like I mean, it does. It gives you the door

that opens.

Speaker 3: And here's the thing, no matter I'm gonna tell you guys, right, you're committed a murder whatever. You know, they're convicted your murder,

they're trying to get a murder sentence on you. But

if somebody opens a door, there's always a leading to stand on that right that there's an out, you are going to walk through that door. I don't care what

it is they're trying.

Speaker 2: To get you for. You're just going to you know things.

If you committed murder, I know he had another car, but Camra, if you kart staring at me like I lost my mind. If you committed murder and someone.

Speaker 3: Opened the door for you to find a defense, plea that maybe gets you not serving the rest of your life.

Speaker 2: You're telling me you're not. There is one insanity that

doesn't work.

Speaker 3: I plead if you if you open a well, Okay, you guys have had your share of tickets than God.

Speaker 2: We pretty much trying to grow out of that. But

you guys had your share tickets.

Speaker 3: How many times was a door opened for you to have a way to possibly get out of me instead of that ticket?

Speaker 2: You didn't go? No, I don't want to take that door.

I'm good. I don't need to get off on the

off ramp here.

Speaker 4: I'm just gonna keep my last open the door for me.

She was like here, I mean, I'd happily take at.

Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say. So charges right, I

think it all just kind of depends on who you're dealing with, though, you guys, Whoever you're dealing with is going to depend on if they're going to really push you to the harshest punishment or if they're going to kind of cut you away. Here's the thing.

Speaker 3: We all know that in Virginia, and I've told you guys, and a lot of other states, like automotive ticket laws like they are off the chain here, Like you you get you some of those tickets are as bad as if you did. You feel like you murdered somebody for

some of the convictions that you get.

Speaker 2: Like what a couple of weeks ago, we were talking about, you know, do we think that would be smart if we had like an AI decide an AI but you had a not an AI. It was yeah, but we

talked about having like a panel panel panel will be better, but like an AI to a certain degree, right, right, And so at least you want it. You want to

have like an emotion towards like they get tired or they're tired of hearing in the same case.

Speaker 4: Just a little bit more about the panel, would the panel be an actual good idea or we we would just be squeezing even more. You know, like every time

we're up there, we're just like we're just like this, We're like, no, I got to now, I got to impress three judge's independent.

Speaker 3: Panel that has nothing to do with law or your city or anything like that. It's it's almost like a

jury selection, but you'd hate to call it that, but you had like independent panel that can kind of take a look at everything and decide. Because here's the thing, guys,

I'm gonna tell you firsthand. Now, it's been a very

very long time. And I've told you guys before I

got tickets and I just knew I was having the book thrown at me. There was nothing that was going

to change that for me, right Like I just and I would sit there and just like you, I've bottled up and I'm cringing up and I'm like, it doesn't matter what I say in this, this guy.

Speaker 2: Is not gonna feel it. And I know that.

Speaker 3: I I think I'm right, Like you know, everybody goes a course, but I'm just saying, like.

Speaker 4: Oh, you have a good press of laugh at when they say, well, you can appeal this, well I'm doing it to the same or the same judge or one of your friends that you play golf with. Yeah, like

you're going to see Like I have to laugh at appeals or sometimes I love when I see these court videos on Facebook and they're like, so, before I tell you what I'm going to give you, do you agree to not appeal this?

Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, no, just stripped me of all my rights.

Speaker 2: This is be honest. I feel like you've taken all

my rights away from me. What if I said no?

That's what we keep talking about. It always circles back

around that.

Speaker 3: I can't tell you guys how many times I get into conversations online with people that these these conversations come up and I'm like, oh, I feel like I beat that horse to death. But no, I I get it

because I've been there and I it is like I said, up until that recent one I got it was over what we say, twenty five years before I got a ticket, but I remember like it was yesterday, being like seventeen eighteen years old and just sitting there going, I know I didn't do anything wrong, but I am getting ready to have the book hand to be. I told you guys,

the one where the front of my car was ripped off, and I knew I wasn't at fault.

Speaker 2: Now I'm going to be adult and tell you, yes, there was some mistakes that I made. One hundred percent.

I made some mistakes. I will own that.

Speaker 3: First of all, I blew by that cop, like I said, like one hundred and twenty miles an hour. He didn't

come after me. Mistake number one. I was a kid, guys.

I mean, like, I'm not condoning it. But I went

by and.

Speaker 2: I looked back.

Speaker 3: We made eye contact, like you know, like like in the movies, like this show emotion, you make eye contact.

Speaker 2: It's like h s.

Speaker 3: I can't say the word, but you know. But it

was one of those moments. And I looked back in

the room mirror and I looked to look at hudn't come out. I get down the road. I've told you that.

I know, I've told you guys the story before. But

I get down the road, I see a friend pass in the opposite direction. I pull into a size I

slowed down and pull into a side street, spin around, pulled back out like, I'm gonna go chase back after him to catch up to them. And while I'm sitting there,

there's a truck coming who was half asleep. We made

eye contact too. That's how I know this guy was

half asleep. He was riding the white lane. He wasn't

in his lane. So, of course, when I pulled off

on the side street to see around the bushes come of that neighborhood, I had to put my nose in the white lane to see around the bush. You understand

how I understand the scenario. Okay, So as I'm looking

to get past the hedges that are on the corner to go in that neighborhood, I'm notice of my cars in the white lane. He's half asleep riding his lane,

and in the white lane literally like the white lanes going down the center of his vehicle because he was falling asleep behind the wheel, and he hit the front of my car and car of course, the first officer on the scene is the officer I passed a little while back at like one hundred and twenty miles an hour, So who do you think he's one hundred percent of that fault? Doesn't want I'm like seventeen years old. He

don't want to hear anything from me. The guy who

hits me, he's probably like in his forties.

Speaker 2: So of course I kenny using past references.

Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's two adults having a conversation, and I'm the kids that's got the hot rod car that's torn up, right, you know what I mean? So, and I told him,

I was like, look, guy was half asleep. He didn't

want to hear a word I said. And he wrote

me once again for everything he could possibly get me for, and then I had to go. As soon as I

went to court, I was like, I pretty much thought I was going to jail. I was pretty sure I

was going to jail. Thought I was like, I was like,

I'm going to jail. And Dawn, my wife, were her

and I were just dating, we were just kids, and she was in the courtroom with me because I was like, I think I'm going to jail. I need somebody to

go with me. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna need somebody

to get me out. It's so luckily the only thing

that saved me was I was getting ready to go in the military, so the judge gave me mercy. So It

just showed you that there is opportunities and there's exits to be able to get some mercy because he did.

He was like, you get ready, I said, yeah, IM already signed up. IM I was supposed to leave. I

think like that week.

Speaker 2: But it's they feel because if he didn't feel about you know, you go in the military.

Speaker 3: And then you know, if he didn't really care about that, the fact that I was going the military, so all of a sudden, it was like he cut me like all these breaks. Now I did have to pay restitution to

the guy before I left for the military, like said, repairs to his cars and stuff in the restitution, so I'd pay it out of the pocket and I had to scramble that money up real quick before I went to the military because I was broke.

Speaker 2: As a joke, but I mean, it happened.

Speaker 3: But it just goes to show you that judges have a big sway in everything and the special treatment. Probably

with special treatment. So not just thing is celebrities get it.

Speaker 2: My big thing is the way. So just how they

feel though right is having a good day or a bad day. It's not really about life seeing what you

and that happens the fact that goes by the order your last name.

Speaker 3: I can't stand because if someone else takes them mad, it's It's one of those things.

Speaker 2: Make it a lot of the library.

Speaker 3: So yeah, maybe there is. You guys, tell me what

you guys think. Send a semesters, Tell you what do

you think about special treatment of celebrities?

Speaker 2: Get it? Did anybody get it? Who knows?

Speaker 3: I feel it probably exists. I want to know what

you guys think. I gotta take quick rush of break

when I come back. I got some more whold type.

Speaker 2: Be right back.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back. So here's one for you.

Speaker 3: Do you remember I'm going back a little flashback, the fromn fridge flashback? So do you remember we had the

conversation And we've had many conversations. I should say, we

know connectivities, big cars want to talk to each other.

Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. All the reasons why we talked about

the reason we missed it last week about the duo okay, drifting.

How is it that every.

Speaker 3: Time we talk about something like something new comes around, it's just like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2: This one? Really?

Speaker 3: To be honest with you, guys, has got me scratching my head. So, did you guys hear about Ford's new patent? No, okay, Camra,

pull this up, man. There is a new patent that

Ford has issued for that the car snitches on you.

That's right, I said it, the car sitch. So it's

a patent where if the cars talk to each other.

So now cars will talk to other cars and be able to have communication. So it's supposed to be safe

for travel. Right, If you're speeding, it documents that you're

speeding in your car, not in the car that you're driving.

That's and then that car snitches on you. It sends

the information to the police and tells them that you're speeding.

I mean, like we all know stitches get stitches. I mean, like,

come on, man, Like, how is this even po Like I don't even understand how this is even possible that this is something real. Like I thought somebody when this

guy sent me, I really thought somebody's pulling my leg.

I'm like, the car is not going to like send information directly police, and like, so what do they plan on doing that information?

Speaker 2: Because they can't see the tickets right right, because they had to kind of catch you in that as well, no ticket, right, yeah, you could take a picture and give somebody a ticket now a days. So what's but

you're not It's it's still the same thing, right, cars with each other.

Speaker 4: What they wanted to do, they put that. They put

the patent in on July eighteenth of twenty twenty four, so not too long ago. They want to basically put

a system inside what's known as a first vehicle, a law enforcement vehicle for example, and include it's going to include a receiving system that the second car are cars are going to be sending out, letting it know exactly what the speed that vehicle is doing and.

Speaker 2: The speed of other vehicles around the.

Speaker 4: YEP and the vehicles of other v of other vehicles around it. By using an image, it will evaluate for

terming at least one identified feature of the second view.

Speaker 2: This this is insane.

Speaker 3: I can't even like Okay, So first of all, so we're gonna see a lot of like banged up cars right now, because like you know, what happens to a snitcher gets beat down, So the car's got to get a beat down for snitching, right, So you canna see cars in parking's have all the body panels smashed in on it because it's snitched.

Speaker 2: I think I think eventually you're gonna have the option where you can you can kind of join, like join the team, or like we're not joined. So you know,

basically like you got everybody's in on one line, they're all communicating, they're all traveling smooth, and you got this one dude just driving by himself. It's like that guy's speeding.

Speaker 3: Tell somebody like, look, man, we all knew, we all knew teachers, pets in classrooms, I mean, the hall monitors, I mean, this is this is this is like so.

Speaker 2: They're all over.

Speaker 4: Their patent goes on just a little bit more after you pull it up, because in a pattern, you have to give everything that you want the system to do ye so so nobody copies it.

Speaker 2: It's also tell all the reasons they're not going.

Speaker 4: So basically they want the first vehicle, the officer's vehicle, to send a message to the second vehicle that has the equipment installed on it.

Speaker 2: All the cars are gonna required to have it. By

the way, yep, that's eventually probably I.

Speaker 3: Think it was twenty by twenty twenty five or something like that, they're starting installing these things.

Speaker 4: Look that up, give me a second. So basically what

it's going to do is it's going to tell the second vehicle, hey, what is that vehicle in front of you speed? And then if it says it's over the

speed limit, it will tell the officer's vehicle to take a photo, and the second vis police officers behind it.

It's your car, but there's going the police car. There's

going to be a police car that's the receiving un.

Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically what they're trying to do is they're extending the radar so basically reach right the front the you know, the front car is going to reach you, and then I'm keep change. Yeah, it's very interesting. It's

a very smart procedures work for this. This is a

bad here's the thing.

Speaker 3: So now people are gonna have to like design jammers that jam all this right, because that's what it's gonna come out. Not only can now radar detectors. Now you

can have these jamming devices that jam all this new technology so you can't get.

Speaker 2: Well, maybe that's where the new feel comes of radart.

You know, detectors maybe become popular again. I am from

the catch me. If you can generation. I don't know.

Maybe that's just bad to say, but I mean it's like I just don't believe cause right I I'm not gonna anymore.

Speaker 3: You know, I'm not gonna say I enjoy the cat and mouse of it. But I told you guys, I

took I did a lot of road trips. I'm never

gonna sit here and tell you guys that I had a lot of fun that I did the speed living on these road trips. I mean I was I was young,

and I didn't think about some consequences. And I know

people still do it as adults these days. I don't,

but I get it, and I'm just gonna tell you, like I if that technology exist it back then you almost trouble. I would be imagine it from here to

Chicago in like nine and a half hours.

Speaker 2: So you all figure that out.

Speaker 4: Imagine going into court and them going, well, how did you paste? How did you track their speed? They don't

say I.

Speaker 2: Radar them anymore?

Speaker 3: I paced.

Speaker 4: Then they said, well, I talked to the vehicle that was it said that it was speeding, even took a photo of your on.

Speaker 3: Or look like this is like this this is book coopananas Man I mean, like this is the question.

Speaker 2: Like you said, though, it gives you a leg up, right, you know, because as it gets more complicated and so you can have more opportunities to you know, fault the technology every time. It's not just you know, the cop

using the radar. Now it's you know, bouncing through you know,

other cars and surroundings, not you.

Speaker 3: But like, do you know every time, like I have thought about this for a week to talk to you guys about it, and every time I sit and I start like trying to do some research and look and stuff and read more about it. This song A blank

is bananas, you know what I mean is what plays in my head. I'm just like, this is completely bananas.

Speaker 2: That's this because it's just it's so stupid.

Speaker 3: I mean, like in the fact that like there's a manufacturer, it's like, yeah, that's a great idea. We ought to

do this even just puzzles me even more now, I.

Speaker 2: Know, but we talked about it. It's a step forward, right,

Tesla's doing it. Well, no, it's a it's a step

forward for an overall product. It's not we don't we

might not like the first step of it or a couple of couple of things that roll out, but eventually it's gonna gets to where you know, Tom's driving. That's

that's the stepping. I know.

Speaker 4: Nate says that until he gets his first ticket.

Speaker 2: Well, you know this is That's why. That's why I'm

lucky that I got a car before technology really got you know, pushed into control.

Speaker 3: At least Toney's still free roaming.

Speaker 4: And it's pretty to say that, Like, you mean, you got a pony before it turned electric.

Speaker 2: Range, before they try to lock me down grasped. No,

it's just.

Speaker 3: It's absolutely just bonkers to me that that this is so Like I said, I really thought somebody was like they're like, oh did you see I know you talk about connectivity all the way all this time, but.

Speaker 2: Take a look at this one. This one's gonna throw

you for a loop.

Speaker 3: I'm like, there's no way, you know, Like, no, well, I guess way, this is real.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Speaker 4: So even though they patent it, do you think it's going to pass?

Speaker 2: Yeah? So do you think it's because look you look

that up.

Speaker 3: They're talking about like I think twenty twenty five this they're going to install this in cars. They want to

start it like twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2: Not the only company thout years a year away, really, I mean.

Speaker 4: Forward always the one to do the weirdest, to do the weirdest things, and always for police vehicles too.

Speaker 3: I always want to say it's but they can't stay out of the news. It's cut like cutting, like cutting edge. Right,

So we we love technology. I told you guys, I

like technology, but I think it's a double edged sword, like it's either good or it's bad. And lately everything

I've talked about seems like I'm just like, no, this is a really bad idea. There's some cool stuff, like

all right, so Tesla, right, everybody's seen lately, everybody's talking about the cyber truck.

Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

Speaker 3: It's just something to talk about as far as I'm concerned, because it's just it's in the news and people just keep on talking about and keep on talking about. I'm

just like, uh, and I don't really want to talk about that because everybody's talking about every single podcast you go to the Hills.

Speaker 2: They did wait what five years for it, I mean, so like it's kind of they got to talk about it.

It's been waiting for so long. They waited to talk

next has been hyped up. Well, I mean they wait

to talk about it. That's just what it is. I

haven't seen anything positive where anybody's really talking positive. The

one one I saw because I showed an athany before the show.

Speaker 3: The guy that lifted it put a wide body kit on it and is racing it through the desert, and it looks like it it performs the way I would expect.

I would have wanted the truck to perform right out of the box. That's kind of like what it is.

I mean, nothing is cyber truck. You guys know, I

support Tesla forever. We're still way for our free ones.

And but I really think that if they did what this guy did the truck and to death and the get go, he would have sold a lot more and it would have been a lot cooler. But you know,

to each his own, Like some some people don't want a truck that has a little bit of a lift.

Speaker 2: Well, it seems like it's kind of one of those, you know, hyped up products just kind of get the name out there and just kind of further another. I've

seen now six.

Speaker 3: Of them here, so yeah, yeah, problem I seen like I didn't see one and all of a sudden, like in the last week and a half, I've seen.

Speaker 4: Like, I do know one of them in the in the town is a rental. I do know one of

them be like on one of those sites for me, yeah, because I've seen the same one. It has the same

exact license plate design on the back of it, and multiple people's been driving it and it drives around town center.

Speaker 2: So if you can make money off it, so be it.

Some people want to.

Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't lie, like if I like went someplace and that was like an option and I'll and I didn't really need it for anything other than they get from point eight to point b while was in some town visit, and I'd be like, yeah, sure, give me the cyber truck. That's cool, whatever, But I probably

drive it once and then I was done with it.

I don't I need to play one hundred and one thousand dollars for one. I think the other teslas are

worth what the values are starting to come around to on them, because it's the technologies.

Speaker 2: The everyday car, right, you know, you know they're not a hype product, right, it's the absolutely that deal. I

don't know.

Speaker 3: I see you guys, doing what you guys think you know, technology man, once again, here we are. I'm at the

crossroad with it. But on this line, no, this is

really bad and uh, don't be a snitch. It's not

cool all and not all the cool kids are doing it.

Just in case you think that they are.

Speaker 2: On that note, let me take a quick course of break.

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Speaker 3: All right, So here's something I want to jump into.

This one puzzles me a little bit. There is you

guys could probably need to online take a look at if you haven't already read the story. So there is

a feud going on between two owners and Toyota right this second about the Corolla GR. It's the circuit Edition

twenty twenty three that the two that burn to the ground.

If you guys haven't seen this, and I guess Toyota it's not going to cover it. They So this one

kind of puzzle like I had to dig dig a little bit into it before we jumped on the show today to get a little bit more information because I just I couldn't find all the information and couldn't figure out why. And then even the answer that's given doesn't

really make any sense to me. So if you guys

haven't seen akrolla GR Circuit Edition, they kind of build it as a entry level like road course car that you can kind of buy and do work course racing kind of ride out of the box, right And anybody that tries to say that, they don't go over to their website. And this is why it puzzles me, and

they literally have a picture of the car sitting on a road course with a driver and a driver suit sitting outside out of it. And then there's a picture

inside the car where the guys in a driver's suit and a race helmet.

Speaker 4: And they even had it for the twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3: Correct, right, so they had so you know you have you have that going on and then then track a track pass with the car to track race it. So

all sounds pretty legit, right. I think the circuit car

runs right about forty five thousand somewhere in there.

Speaker 4: Starting forty five.

Speaker 2: Yeah, So to go ahead and get one of the GR stands for something racing, right, it's a.

Speaker 3: Well I would say it's IOU was no, because not gt SO GR. What is a Grand Grand racing? And I

don't know see what the.

Speaker 2: GR the GR sapor camera what does it stand for?

Speaker 1: This?

Speaker 2: I know it's something there is Candy Grand Tarisma racing because there's no t SO. But like I said, so

here's the thing.

Speaker 3: They had their cars and both these cars caught on fire and I guess burn to the ground, and they're new, so of course you would think it should be covered in a warranty, right, because you.

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Didn't know that and learn something new every day.

Speaker 3: So here's here's the thing that I have the problem with it is the reason they've told him that they're not going to cover the cars is because they've exceeded.

Speaker 2: Well, the first guy. So the first guy was told

that he exceeded the speed the speed limit that the car was supposed to be going. I guess he They

said that the car sent a notification that exceeded, you know, a speed limit of one hundred and fourteen. The guy

couldn't really understand like how it sent or when they got it right, but you know that he was just one of it's got a black box, that's what I was kind of thinking of. It sent it, but you know,

they were kind of claiming that, you know, he basically abused the car.

Speaker 3: Okay, So here's the thing, though, you're selling the car with a race.

Speaker 2: Pack, right, I don't know what you're expecting right.

Speaker 3: Right, somebody's going to take it on track and they're going to race it if there's nothing in the clauset avoids all that stuff, right that says you can't do that with the car.

Speaker 2: Well, and so the article was talking about how it doesn't say anything about breaking speed unless you're under the tire, you know, section of the owner's manual. Then it says

don't exceed speed. But of course you're gonna say that everybody.

Speaker 3: You can say that time, but they doesn't say that my car is gonna burst into flames if I do so.

And then you're also I mean, here's the thing. If

you're if you're offering a race pack where you get taken on road course, what are you gonna do with it?

You're gonna race it. I mean, that's just what you're

gonna do with it. So I don't understand, like, especially.

Speaker 2: If the car is that fast, you'd put a red liminar on right to you know, but then what would be the point of having that car or circut edition or the track pack exactly.

Speaker 3: So I just feel like if you've got like a really good attorney, probably not even really good.

Speaker 2: Turn, but there's no there's no way that sticks, right.

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Speaker 2: So they say sports spoiler.

Speaker 3: You know.

Speaker 2: They also say that they have four piston aluminium breaks.

They're trying to sell it. They're hyping the car up.

Speaker 4: Doesn't make sense. They're all those Toyota corollas there. Their

gr versions come with warranties, a five year, sixty thousand mile power train.

Speaker 2: It doesn't say anything in there about three.

Speaker 3: Thirty six mile competence, anything in there about taking it to the track day that you provided to me that you can't do. I mean, you're providing it to me.

And here's the thing. I could understand if you, if

you were hanging on to those loyals right and saying this is how we feel. But you're billing the car

as a track car. In your advertisements about the car,

you've got a guy in a helmet in a race suit.

Speaker 2: Like they took a common car and it took to the race tracks.

Speaker 3: It's not like you have like a you know, like a Pontiac Vibe or just those entire CoA right, not even that, Like if you just take like, you know, pick insert crazy car here, I can't even think of a good camera, no, because the camera gets tracked back.

Speaker 2: They yeah right, I'm just not on like base car.

Here's the thing, perfect example.

Speaker 3: So what if I took the camera that has a TRD pack on it because I buy it because it has the TRD race pack with it.

Speaker 2: I would expect that I could.

Speaker 3: Take that car and probably go do if I know better, because I know what a fast car and not a fast car is. But I would suspect you could take

that car to the track and in a couple of lines.

Speaker 4: Well, they also have their all wheel drive mode. They

they're all wheel drive mode. They have three different options

to pick from f where it controls like the back and so it's like if you're given those options to control how much torque is you know, pushed towards the front and one better then your.

Speaker 2: Honest car and has rev matching. Yeah, rev matching, Now

what do you need that for? If you're not going

to be using that fress in the car.

Speaker 4: We can go as far as it has a turbo boost.

Speaker 2: Gay got you?

Speaker 3: But you know I'm being realistic with it, like I'm just I'm realistic with I just I don't get it.

Like I said, I just think that any attorney with worth his grit it could like look at this.

Speaker 2: And go wait a minute, like I'm just going to destroy this. But here's the thing. It's Toyota. You know

they got huge attorneys. But here's the thing.

Speaker 3: You would have done better in average if you would have just came a new car, gave a new car like most people would have, and just sent them on their way and didn't you know, yeah, I know that sounds like a lot, but it's really not.

Speaker 4: From the person that handles media a lot. You got

to think on what the side effect of that would.

Speaker 2: So here's the thing.

Speaker 4: You know, that means that you would have given president everybody.

Speaker 2: So you're saying more people would have bought the car.

That's a great thing.

Speaker 4: I think the more people would have probably bought the car, but more people would have probably came fort right. Maybe

that's the word I'm looking for the forthcoming forthcoming saying that, oh twirda cause damage to my car. You know, so

you got to kind of think about like what else would have killed you?

Speaker 3: From the question that came up for me, right, what caused the card to burn to the ground?

Speaker 2: What what by me driving my car fast? Okay, well,

apparently they weren't like really breaking the speed limit. It

just kind of when it happened. They weren't, you know,

exceeding it is that they're just saying that, you know, because they exceeded at some point, it led to it.

Speaker 3: So that's and that's kind of my issue too, Like I'm like, do you know how many.

Speaker 2: Cars in my life that I have abused that?

Speaker 3: I mean just things that probably you really I mean shouldn't probably do in certain cars earlier in my life, and then cars that were actually pretty probably designed to do that. But and I still like, you take it

to its limits.

Speaker 2: I mean, that's just the whole point. I'm having the

warranty to know, Well, the.

Speaker 3: Warranty kind of avoids like a lot of times void warranties are avoided for any racing application, right, they just are like and I know that, but if you're building a car and you're billing it billiing it as a racing car, as a car for the racetrack, and then think that somebody's gonna take on the racetrack. They're not

gonna do the performance stuff that you are kind of promoting the car does. And then later on, let's just

I don't even care if it happened on the racetrack, if it burned the ground the racetrack, I don't even care.

I think you should like, well, what what's caused it?

Like cars just don't burn to the ground.

Speaker 2: That's not so. I mean, like it's just in their.

Speaker 4: Report they talk about like how they did an inspection report and everything, and they say, you know, we found the car with burned and damage. Of course the car

was on fire. Of course you found the car where

some fire damage, you now, But then they talk about like the reason why they denied it because they found oil residue and the turbo. But they also found a

hole in the side of the engine. Of course there's

going to be oil somewhere in the engine. I mean,

you know me, people I.

Speaker 2: Know that have oil residue in their turbos. I mean, like,

because that's just what turbos do. More than they want

to clean, this is what they do.

Speaker 3: It's not I mean, it's not a good sign, but it's just the car had five thousand miles on it and there's already oil up into the turble. Like we

did have a con we need to have a conversation about that.

Speaker 2: I mean twenty three thousand and three, twenty three thousand, four hundred.

Speaker 4: The first car was the first car, second car.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I said, it's I'm just this this, like I said, this one completely puzzles me.

Speaker 2: I don't understand it. Nine thousand. It is. So if

you guys can figure that out, let me know.

Speaker 3: The last thing I want to talk to you guys about that I told you was so I get I got a bunch of messages right about like driving through high water, and like my suggestion on driving through hardwalks.

I really thought this is kind of, uh, sub explanatory.

My answer to that is the question was like, doesn't matter what kind of car you have, as far as I'm gonnaert, no, no matter what kind of car you have, don't drive through high water. Here's the reason why I

think I've told you guys this before your rear ends.

There's transfer cases. There's transmissions. They're vented. Okay, some not all,

but most there's a good majority of they're invented. That

vent when you go through the water. The rotation of

the gears and stuff inside of transmission creates a vacuum suction, and then the event just sucks water into your transmission rear ends. If they're a vent at rear end or

if it just doesn't have a really good seal on, water gets in the rear end and you feel your rear up, rear end up with water, and now you're driving around with water and re end mixed with the gear oil and just everything rust and it wears out.

Same thing with transfer cases. You have vent it transfer

cases and they you know, everybody's like, well, I got a jacked up truck. I'm like, right, and do you

tell men jackup trucks. I saw it in my history

of working on cars that when I to go drain the oil, they were.

Speaker 2: Full of water.

Speaker 3: And I go, holy cow, how long is this? They've

been full of water and driving around like that.

Speaker 1: Oh.

Speaker 2: I took it like four months ago.

Speaker 3: You know. We went out to the swamp and you

know when I went through some big mud holes, I'm like, right, and you filled it up with the water. No wonder

why it doesn't act right, you know what I mean? Like,

so my answer on.

Speaker 2: That if if you just don't understand.

Speaker 3: Don't go through high water. And now, so here's the

caveat that Before we get out of here, somebody said, do you think people Do you think people do this stuff on purpose?

Speaker 2: To Oh, yeah, I said, do you think people just do it?

Speaker 3: There is an area here and close to our city where I know for a fact people put cars because they know it's a high flood zone and if they want to, if they don't want to be and they want to be done with that car for at least twenty five years. You all know that road floods. So

if you parked on that road and you don't live anywhere near it, sure you're visiting a friend, I know you were just trying to get rid.

Speaker 2: Of your car.

Speaker 4: No, no, no, because I am one of those people that went through that road and that day there with that you were that you were on the.

Speaker 3: Road I'm talking about, like you weren't on the road I'm talking about, but you were very close I talking about.

So my answer to that is, yes, I think people know exactly what roads flood and I think if they want to be done with their car, they make sure they're during rainstorm.

Speaker 2: And it goes away.

Speaker 3: So yes, I think people destroy cars on purpose. So

hope I clarify that and that No, guys, I gotta get out of here. Hope you guys enjoyed the show. Hey,

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