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Welcome to Car Talk. It's Tuesday night here at 9 NW

FM. It's me, Maddie J in the studio

with Mr Alamdev singer online with Mr Scotty Derd Johnson.

How are you, gentlemen? Good, happy to be here.

Yep, doing well. Thank you very much.

Good to see you, Alan. You're all better from last

week. I am.

I am. You had a scared mate.

I had a mini asthma attack, just a mini 1.

Just a mini 1. You know, I had to take my extra

preventer at home and then I had a hot warm cup of tea and that was it and that was all sorted. All sorted.

Well, that that, that's good. Well, you know, you're an

important part of the the show, so you know we're going to make sure you're OK. And that's that's why I'm just

checking in, making sure. Appreciate, appreciate the

homies worrying about me, but you know, I'm all good.

He's flexing only single carbon and no double carbon, no double carbon. No, that's wrong yet.

And Scotty Dough, how are you, man?

Yeah, I'm doing well. Still kicking?

Still kicking? Starting your new job?

Is that next week? That's next week.

I'll start on Monday. You excited?

Yeah, I am actually. Yeah, that one that that'll be

good. Still in the the same field,

Scotty, We're doing something completely different.

Same field. Just a new location.

New location and older kids. So you're he's going to see,

he's going to high school. She wouldn't come to the

graduation party, Scotty. Now I'm going, I'm going.

Classy too. Yeah.

Private Catholic. Oh private Catholic, Look at

this man. He's, you know, he's going to be

ranking in the big dollars. Well, me, the poor little yeah,

government school who ended up on the news is is is is, you know, just just doing, doing, doing his bit.

As kids I went to quote unquote private Catholic schools in in the broad part of town. You know to.

Be honest, it's pretty much a state school at that point.

It's not all. You know what, just gotta enjoy

your mass mate. Enjoy your mass that you're

obliged to go to. I will love it, yeah.

We are also joined by Rob Zedai. How are you, Rob?

Good. Thank you.

How are you all? Good mate, are you at work?

Sort of working, yeah. He.

He he looks like he's in, he's in an office of some description. Yeah, he's got the printer in

the background. Yeah, that's a printer.

Yeah, my my little office, my printer.

Yeah. Station Discs.

Oh jeez, the three screen set. Up three screens.

Jeez. Yeah, you can tell he's back in

the big box. Free screen presumed up to 150%.

You know, you know, they've given me jobs of two other people, but I'm not doing any of I'm not even doing my job now because there's much to do falling apart.

Are they giving me a salary of the two other people, Rob?

They've given me the salary of one other OK, but not enough.

Yeah, it's never enough, is it? It's crazy.

You're working too hard, Rob. You're working too hard mate.

For the first time, you're sucking a bit.

I am. I love your honesty, mate.

Oh man, I had a kid that today, like he was telling, he was telling me a story and he's like, so I probably shouldn't be telling you this. I'm wearing an excursion, right?

And his older brother, I got kicked out of year 12 because he failed 2 units. I mean, you failed 2 units.

You're you essentially failed year 12.

So they asked him to leave anyway.

He's like, yeah, so him and the other guy that failed, like they both failed together. You know, he's like, well, I

might as well tell you now because they both failed.

I'm like, I'm like, oh, OK, just is it is it, is it OK to tell me or is it like, or is it like something I have to report?

It's like, it's like, oh, I don't know, I can leave it up to you. He's like one of the kids failed

despite using ChatGPT for his whole assessment.

And, and if this is the same assessment that I think that I heard that the when he failed, he got every single question wrong. So I'm sorry, I don't, I yeah,

don't know how, but that's, you know, so you can pay the big bucks for Rob, so you can pay the big bucks for.

It's funny you say that. I actually sometimes if I have

to respond to, you know, a cohort or a large group of people, I'll actually put my whole response into GDP to clean it all up. Oh, OK.

Yeah, just to tidy things up. If there's any grammatical

errors or anything like that, it just fixes it all up for you.

A lot of like a lot of workplaces use Microsoft 365 or Teams, that sort of thing. And a lot of those email clients

have a little bit of AI into in them to help you with grammar.

And that's as far as I would personally take it because I've even at work I received some weird emails like the I just think, did you pass English there?

Are there are people professionally using AI to write the whole email? I got one the other day.

This is from this is for stuff related to more radio station business. And this is this person sent me

an invoice and they said the deposit, invoice, invoice number is attached with this email. You can choose the easy way out

and pay a lot of this. So I'm like, what do you mean

the easy way? I'm still.

Paying. Like, what do you mean?

I just, yeah, I don't understand.

You could say maybe this English isn't this person's, you know, first language. OK, that makes sense.

This person's name is Keely. I'm pretty sure that's the, you

know, Anglo Saxon name. Yeah, yeah, clearly somebody's

written like, you know, so I'm gonna change if any response and like, you know, asking for us to pay an invoice, which is what do you mean? Look, it's alright for you

educated people, but you know we can't us tradies, right?

You know, we drop out the year 11, go to trade school, go around the tools. Yeah.

And we use our hands. We we don't get our hands sturdy

and, you know, experience things that way.

And, and going to school is great.

And you need to have that basic, you know, literature or literature or whatever language requirement.

But at the end of the day, it's difficult when you're working and you know, for a crust. So did you finish your 12 Rob?

No, I didn't. No.

OK, what? What did you finish?

Year 11. Yes, and you wanted went

straight to because you do a fitting and turning apprention didn't. You.

Yeah. Well, I hated school, so I just

wanted to get out. So you ended up doing fitting

and turning and, well, here I am back at trade school, and then they're giving you homework. I left school not to do

homework, giving me all this homework at trade school.

I'm working all day now. I've got a homework as well.

So the trade school TJ, I've got become really good mates with him actually over the years. But you guys rob you guys

because you didn't do any homework.

I'm not going to give you the test.

I'm going to wait until the next two tests and you're going to do all 2, all three together. Did you pass?

It I passed them with flying colours yeah.

So at the end of the day, if you, it's just like if you don't need to do homework, why are you doing homework if you already know it? Sort of it, I think it sort of

becomes boring and it's like like it's like a a bugbear to do it because you already know it. Yeah.

And then after all that, anyway, after three, three years of trade school, got me apprenticeship, got me certificate for a place, basically advanced fitting and turning to become a toolmaker, it is another three years of night school to get your diploma in toolmaking.

Oh wow. So didn't I have to go back to

RMIT in the city to do your toolmaking certificate?

And now that was in injection moulds and you know, some plastic moulding, blow moulding and stuff like that.

Yeah. It does basically anything to do

with, yeah, making dies, injection moulding dies, but I actually used to make press tools, so I actually made the dies for the door hinges on the old well back then would have been XF Falcons. OK.

I made a die for the UNI mock rails.

So wait, just just want to take you, take you one step back.

You said XF payment door, XF 4 door handles.

So what was 1983? What was?

That would have been XE. XE.

X So you did the you did the door handles for the X ES.

The actual door hinge tool to make the the actual door hinge that goes onto the A pillar. OK.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right to hold the doors on.

So we made we made the dive for that.

Oh cool. So and then we made all the

terminal lugs, the die to make the terminal lugs for all the batteries. OK, Yeah.

For the battery lugs and we made some dies for Toyota as well, but I'm not sure exactly I can't remember what which parts we're making for Toyota, but we we actually used to make a lot of Motor Company dies. Yeah, back then.

So it was good. It was, it was good to see it.

I actually, I think I went to Ford once or twice to have a look at the the operations. Yeah.

Yeah, that, that would that would been really, really cool.

It'll been interesting to see if your kids are a few years older last day, but they got to go to Ford and they used to say, oh, that was really cool. They walked down the assembly

line and see all the different stuff and they they really enjoyed it. We never got to do that.

And I'm spewing that we did because I, I was, that would have been one of my, you know, one of my favourite things to have seen. Yeah, the best we got was some

kid bragging that his dad walked his contract.

But I knew you were gonna put that up, too.

Yes, he knows who he is. Yeah, and I actually got a job

offer at Ford too. I wanted to work in their

quality control department and they offered me a job to make in their tour room to repair and make dies.

OK, Yeah. So I knocked it back and I ended

up getting the job at Toyota as a quality control inspector.

OK. And and you, you were there for

quite a while, right? The engine plant, I was only

there for three years in engine plant, Yeah.

So I used to actually cut up all the engine blocks and all the other castings and whatnot and measure them all up.

So yeah, it was a bit of expansion in automotive industry, which is pretty good. So yeah, not many people get to

experience it, so it's good. Yeah, now that that's definitely

a really cool, really cool thing.

The fact that you you got to work with all those different, you know, fields and industries and within that industry is pretty, pretty cool. Just a quick one, on the weekend

I went away and we actually went to the Trafalgar Holden Automotive Museum. Oh, how was that?

Wasn't too bad, $15 entry. Yeah, that's pretty good.

It's amazing. They they pretty much had the

history from with Holden back in the 1800s when they first started making as a saddlery. So they're making anything for

horses and and carts. And from the time, you know,

they got into automotive and and they used to build the old GM products and put them and put them together.

And then they when they GM actually basically took over from the FX basically, Yeah. Yeah.

So it was pretty good. So it gave you a full history

and they had a lot of nice cars there.

They had a lot of cars that were cut as, how could I say it, as demonstration cars that cut. Yeah, the, the actual shell

open, the tyres open and you can see inside them and all that sort of stuff. That's cool.

I'm Holden. Yeah.

So it's worthwhile getting down there if you get get a chance.

Yeah, no, we should definitely make that make it true about that. I remember when I went to the

the Birdwood or, or when we see them, that's they got, they got the Holden's going up in like it looks like they're you know, with the with the the car cranes, you know, taking them up and stuff and Magnus and stuff. And yeah, that's, that was

pretty cool. That was probably one of my

favourite car museums, I reckon. There you go.

Be going there for Magna Fest, Magna 40th in October.

You bet. You guys better be there.

I've been trying to find a Magna but I just can't find one and.

Even if you don't, you still, you're still going to come, all right? It's a, it's a, it's a, it's

going to be the ultimate boys trip.

It'd be good fun. Like the first Harley.

You're coming. Yeah.

He's. He's not sort of convinced, you

know, that's all right. October.

October, Yeah. October.

Deb, are you coming? Yeah.

Yeah, cool. Awesome.

He wants to go. She wants to go with the boys.

Yeah, Deb, you're, you're more than welcome to come.

Yeah, It'll be a great trip. Yeah.

No, that's exciting. Well, look, we'll get into some

car updates. We'll start with you, Rob.

Anyway, I think since you're you're going any anything with the cars. Oh, the Ford, The van, The

Transit. Jesus Body Transit.

I rang him up again. I finally got hold of them.

They want the car back on Friday.

I wanted it back today but I couldn't do it.

Drop it off on a Friday and they're going to give me another loan car until they sort out the diff.

But no, no need to making a whining noise at a lower speed.

I think I might have mentioned that it's now got a like a grinding noise at slow speed. So it's like a something's

rubbing like metal to metal at very low speed or many corners.

So hang on. So did they give you back the

van and said drive it? That they fixed it, they gave it

back to me. So they said they fixed it, gave

it back to me and and I said, oh, it's better it's not making noise between that 90 and 110 kilometre mark now it's making a noise between sort of 80 and 70 kilometres.

Yeah, that slower down. You could, I had a look

underneath the dip. Looks like they've even washed

it and looks brand new or they've replaced it.

Oh, really? I mean they fixed the issue you

went in with. It's not making the sound of

that. They they just gave you a new

issue to go along. Yeah, they've given me another

issue. Is this a common thing with with

these or is or is it just like you've just had bad luck?

I don't know but I was looking at some some YouTube videos and basically Ford have got a lot of recalls on at the moment and one of them was the Ford Transit diff in the US as well.

OK. So it was a bolt issue that they

had that was actually shearing or grinding or something.

Oh well. I'm not sure if it's now that

problem or something different, I don't know.

Yeah, well, yeah. It's hard to actually raise the

car up and I try to. I put it in gear and span it

around and you couldn't hear it when it's not on the load.

It's only when it's on the load. You can hear it.

But it's something minor, but it's yeah, you don't know if it's going to just fail, would it?

Be tail shaft like you're like not balanced and stuff making that noise. I thought it might have even

been a stone caught in the disc. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I So I reversed it and went forward, backward and forward and stuff like that. Made no difference.

Well. Still doing the noise, making

the noise. So I, I just, I had it, I said

no, just I'll take it back and they'll give me a loan car and I'll drive a another van or a Ranger around for another couple of months until they fix it. Yeah, that's just not good

enough. Well look, at least I'm getting

another brand new car or a newer car to mine.

Correct SO. What you're going to do is

really make them feel the pain in like 3 months.

You make that Ranger do like 100,000 KS.

They give you a limit, you only have to do 300 KS a day on it.

That's bullcrap. Say yeah, or ask the bike charge

you for it. Well, that's ridiculous.

Well. If it was like a regular car I

can someone understand it but if this is like trades trades vehicle, the likelihood of you doing depending on the trade 300 KS or more is actually quite high so that's unreasonable.

So what if you're a career driver and you bought your new, your new, your transit full size Transit van for your, you know, your bloody curing and you're doing 3 to 400 KS a day?

Yeah, what about then like that? That's that's insane.

The arguing, wouldn't you? Yeah, absolutely.

I, I don't do that many kilometres on it.

I only use it on the weekends and after, you know, occasionally on weeknights because I work from home anyway, so I don't drive it that much to sort of worry about it.

But how? Many.

How many cases is it done? Rob 9000?

Wow, that's ridiculous. Yeah, 9000 KS so.

But apart from that, pretty quiet nephews.

Done some mods on the E 430 that's running right after I changed the radiator in that he's actually removed the muffler delete from the back. Sounds all.

Right. Sounds good.

Yeah, it would sound good. Harley's car hasn't been painted

yet because his C63 is getting painted.

Oh. What's wrong with?

It just blemishes and scratches and chips and stuff like that and it's turning off the the buyers even at the the, you know, at the price he's asking for it and he's not asking top dollar for it either. Well, the price of those cars

seem to have gone down for some reason, I don't know why.

Maybe because they've announced that they're going to make AV8 again in the C63? Well, they announced they're

doing, they're doing a straight six or something.

Didn't they like that? That was, you know, because like

they were, they were like, oh, you know, like that was what was leaked. But, but who knows?

Mercedes is doing weird things. Yeah.

So look, I think it's just a market and people don't have any money. So everything's so it's, you

know, it's, it's a buyers market to some extent.

Yeah, at the moment, yeah. Yeah.

Apart from that, no, nothing else.

That's it. All right.

Scotty. Didn't get up to too much

because the weather was a bit crappy over the long weekend.

I still got to fill up the R31 ready and I was going to do it then but I didn't want to take it out because then I'd have to wash the whole thing properly again.

It would have got filthy. So I was like no I don't want to

do that. So I thought I'll have a have a

quick look and I'll check out the rims and maybe give a bit of a bit of a Polish and I forgot I had this old old Polish made by Turtle Wax and it's called Liquid Ice.

No, I remember that we used to have a lot of tuber.

Cheap, yeah. Yeah, so liquid ice and you can

put it on any surface to bring it up and make it look good.

So I thought I'll do it on the the plastic bump a bit that, you know, had gets starts to go grey.

That looks old. Yes.

I thought I'd put it on that because I remember doing it in before when I used to use that product.

So I just put it on there and just did some of the little bits and some of the bits around the around the trimmings and all that just to bring it up looking nice and snazzy again.

It'd be interesting to see how long it lasts.

Really. I can't remember.

I don't think it lasts very long, but thought I'd do that.

And then I had a look under the bonnet and I realised that my job on the upper radiator hose where I put the extra fitting, I didn't do a good job. Luckily I got another.

Hose. I bought another hose so I have

to do that so. Yeah, now it's better that.

One off and chucked on that hose so that won't leak.

Yeah, I haven't cut this one up, so you've got that.

I stuffed that up, but Oh well. I gotta come, I gotta come do

that, do the wiring for that. Actually, I'm still gonna

organise that, Scotty. Yeah, so I fixed that up, which

is good. So that one that's not leaking

and did my best to get all the air out of the system, that's I hate doing that. That's the worst.

Yeah, you could sit there for hours and I still reckon you're not. You still won't get it all.

So in case I didn't get it all, I might just bring up a a bottle of of coolant with me. Yep, just in case if I didn't

didn't get it all. Yeah, that was that was about

all all that I did stuffing around with it.

Nice. Then I think on Saturday, this

coming Saturday, I'll make sure that I fill it up with fuel and make sure it's ready to roll. Just got to pump up the tyres,

fill it with fuel, try and Polish the rims a bit better and we'll be ready for. Shouldn't they?

Yeah, exotic. I'm really excited with a great

picnic. Should be a lot of fun.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, it'll be be good.

The weather's looked like it's going to be good too, so.

Good. Good, good, good.

Oh. Not a lot of car updates.

I took the STI to work I think on Friday.

That was pretty good time. The battery was not dead this

time. So I still haven't changed it

out. I've just got the new one

sitting there and I'm like, I'll just put that in a battery tender, you know, just to keep it fresh.

Keep. It fresh, yeah.

Yeah, I had a pretty good kind of just chill time.

I think I'll take it in for a service.

It's been more than a year, but the car just does not get driven enough. So I'm like, I'm not going to

take it after 200 KS for a service.

Like if the car was kind of running or doing bad, like whenever I start up, I make sure it warms up properly so I'm not letting my kind of condensation build up in the oil.

It's just, yeah, I reckon maybe at the end of the financial year because I've got a busy month coming up in June and I'm thinking I'm travelling a bit. So either I'll drop it off

before that or after D Max. Still haven't taken it for the

little recall. So just be lazy about it.

It's because of work. Like I start as a dealership

opens up. So like either I can be at work

or I can be at the dealership. Yeah, I'm kind of in that that

dead zone. Same with like getting to the

dealership right after work. It's not the easiest thing.

So my dad said he might take it and just, I'll just take, you know, the DSTI or the Honda to work, just kind of book it in because he's he's, I think we've got a second letter today.

And because it comes, it's like a registered post letter.

They're like, Oh no, this year's about this.

I'm like this year's about all the recalls.

But you know, I'm sure it'd be fine.

But yeah, so he's keen to take that.

Apart from that, everything seems to be yeah, going pretty well. Nice.

I'm still concerned about that whole premature wear thing for the tyres, yeah. So I'll rotate these tyres every

10,000. That might get me a little more

aware of them. Yeah, But if it seems like

they're still doing the same thing, yeah, I'm probably going to step it up to ICE because you'd be like, look, something's wrong with your vehicles. I'm not the only one having this

issue. Do I have to be like the head of

the class action? I'm like, I'll do it.

I'll be on. I'll be on today, tonight, being

like, I'll just find a fair go, swirl, free, go.

That's why it doesn't exist. It's a current affair.

Current affair. Yeah, we can swat a fair go.

Tracy, I just want a fair go. I did 2 sets of ties, like why'd

you do the rear ties? Shut up, that's why.

Ellen, if you if you've done a like a lift kit and put neoprene bushes and that through it or something, would it fix the issue or? I I think probably would

exacerbate the issue, but what they said is there's aftermarket, the kind of knuckles part of the steering mechanism, those seem to, yeah, sort it out because no matter how you align it at the front, it ends up kind of cambering automatically to kind of 'cause that uneven.

Wear just like a Cambikit in it. Yeah.

OK. So like what what some companies

have come up with at least one company and all is like a new style of knuckle that's aftermarket.

And so maybe that has to be redesigned by Isuzu and that'll be a recall maybe in like another year's time or something. Yeah.

Because a lot of the times the excuses they use were you put a ball bar on it. That's why, you know, it's like

when mine's stock. Yeah.

Like I don't even go over bumps hard, you know, I slowed down because I'm not a moron. Like, you know, my alignment was

relatively fine. They just, you know, I guess

said it a little bit when you look at the alignment sheet.

So it's not like it was far out and that's why it was happening.

So I don't know, I'll check it again in 10,000 ish KS and get it aligned, get the tyres right here, see if there's been that difference to the alignment and then we'll go from there.

How? Many KS are on.

The close to 40,000. You already been through a set

at 40. Yeah, before 4440 does again.

It's one thing to be like, oh, my tyres are unroadworthy or worn. I'm shamed this.

I had the wires shown. Yeah, yeah.

But you couldn't tell because I went inside.

Inside. Yeah.

Yeah, and like the outside was still fully roadworthy.

You need to get something like a Cooper's tyre which they guarantee for 80,000 kilometres. Yeah, that, that is true.

That is, that is very true, you guys said.

We would get get Coopers to fight.

Hi, Susan. I just want a fair game.

Yeah, that'll be in the middle of it.

Tracy Grimshaw, whatever who you would have replaced it.

It's like it's a battle of time. There's one man in the middle

and it's just me. David runs Goliath, they always

say the whole day was Goliath. Battles are great.

There's one man and there's a white Ute and it's just me.

And he just wants a fair go. It's.

It'll be like me standing, like it'll be all the truck tyres we have at work, the bus tyres. It'd be like, look what

happened. I just want fair go.

It'll be it'll be that and then you know, they do the rundown chasing of the people. What are you going to say about

yourself? They'll be chasing down like

your eyes. Usually dealership.

It was just me, like pushing the tyres over, like look at this, look at this. No one's questioning why the

tyres like halfway over buddy. That would be funny.

We said. They'll be like we're still

waiting on Isuzu in Australia to make a comment.

Just have like one of our reports from work, it's like Mr Singh spends $10,000 a month on tyre recycling.

And I'm like, yeah, because this year.

You blame everything on Isuzu. There is an environmental impact

there, isn't there? Absolutely.

There is, you know which which I'm just trying to be green.

I'll book the greenest Ute I could.

Yeah. So that's the Ute that's the Rex

and. Honda Yeah, Mum and dad are

driving that. I did drive to work one of the

days because my sister and brother in law stole the the Ute to go on an adventure. It's my brother in law's

birthday and they're like, oh, we're going out, you know, somewhere. I'm like, we'll take your own

car, damn it. You're the Rex.

We're going out. Yeah.

They're like, Oh no, we want something, you know, nice and cruisy. I'm like, that's not cruisy.

It's a Ute like if anything, you know the Rex.

Well, now the shock absorbers. I'm like, your Yaris rides fine.

Yeah, I think you're out, Yaris. So God doesn't have cruise

control. Like that's not my problem.

That's not my. Yeah, that's like a new problem.

Yeah, that's all right. They they borrowed, they filled

it up. They didn't fill it up all the

way, but they they filled it because then they used it after filling it up. Of course.

Yeah, that's about right. Updates with me got the MR2 back

and I think last less the last lesson.

I'm just thinking like I'm talking to my class last now.

Last week I talked. To is that gum?

Hand it over. To payday, it's a principal's

attention. So the last time I spoke was I

think I mentioned that the possible head gasket went this was last last week. I I don't think any of you guys

were on last week, but basically when they when they had the motor out, they like Tom, you know, they did a time about water pump. They did the they resealed the

whole motor because it was pissing out from every possible orifice that it could reamain new clutch, you know, and I had all the parts I just gave it to them.

So just do it all. They went to dump the oil and it

was Milky and I was like, oh, you're kidding.

So I'm like not good, not good, not good.

And but then they but then they tested it like the test of the head wasn't leaking. Did a full leak down test.

The head was fine, drives fine. Like like the car like usually

if it's got an internal head gasket, it it'd be a little bit stuttery and and not not happy. So they're like the head gasket

is fine in this car. Turned out, turned out it was

the oil cooler, which is which runs through the the it's got like a coolant pipe that runs through it and that's got an internal crack and that's what's been letting in water into the oil, hence the reason why it's now got that.

So they've just blocked it. I've blocked the the oil cooler

off. I've ordered another one from

the UK, second hand one. I'm going to drive for, you

know, a couple thousand KS dumped the oil again, because it's still, you know, it's still a little bit a bit of dirt in there from, you know, from obviously that, you know, being in the engine drop that. And if it's, if it's no, if it's

really hardly any Milky in there, then then I know, I know we're, we're pretty safe. So other than I'll put that on.

So I've ordered that. I've ordered a new key barrel

set for that car as well, because someone had tried, well, the car was broken into and they, they never fixed up the, the driver's side door and the, the ignition key is a different key. And it's like, you know what,

I'll buy the holster that's all combined, all the same key.

And then I'll, you know, I've got a really nice MR2 key I got for Christmas, which I'll get cut and then I can actually use that. So there's that so I've done

that. What else have I done?

I think that's pretty much it. Oh no, the the lights are

driving a lot better. The clutch is starting to wear

in now a bit more gearboxes. It feels so much better.

There's no more grumbling no more.

It feels like the car's going to vibrate like crazy.

It's it feels way smoother. So I'll give that a clean bring

that on Sunday. I want to see someone I can

bring in the MR2, but that's that's I have to figure out who I'm going to get to do that and I think that's pretty much it on my car. It's actually gentlemen now,

gentlemen, tonight's topic now I've I was bought, I sent, I put in the group chat a couple or probably a couple weeks or a week and a half ago, a picture of a Toyota Avalon with the plate grandpa. Now you got to be wondering

about the clientele that bought that certain car and hence the reason why the guy put the licence plate grandpa, because you know, pretty much all old people bought them.

And Rob, you would know this is, you know, there was already an old, it was already an old model at the time when when we got introduced to us. So and they, I think they even

marketed it from memory to old people.

Like there was they going to the Bowling Club from memory.

So it was quite literally that's who that car was bought for.

So they got me wondering who were the demographic for certain cars? And like, I'm not and I'm not

choosing your basic Falcons, Commodore, stuff like that, that that that we all know. I want to put a few different

ones different a few weird ones out there for you.

And and it it'll be interesting to see what you think.

Who The Who were the people that bought these cars when they were new, because quite frankly, some of the cars I'm convinced were were just, you know, it's in stock.

I'll buy it cars or you know, low income single dad cars or you know, it's I'm beginning. No car starts off no brand new

car starts off as a low income single dad car.

Well there's some cars that start off as as low income single mom cars. Yes, yes, super Outback.

Super Outback. No, but yeah, so that's that's a

different clientele I feel. But when it's a low income

single dad, it has to be a used car.

Like an AU Falcon, Yeah. It's got a used car that's kind

of had it rough and gotten rougher.

Well, I want to leave it in your capable hands because I want to ask you a few cars now, who do you think bought the Ford Corsair when they were brand new?

They were a terrible car. Rob's just like looking at he's

like, oh God, that's a terrible car.

Like that car for me. And, and, and hear me out.

You're in the 90s, early 90s and it's a Pintara based Ford.

Not a good looking car, not a not dynamically good, not a good in general in terms of in terms of everything about them.

For me, that's the car that your boss bought you.

If he didn't like you, he's like, he's like, yeah, I want to get you. You're going to get a car as

part of your package. We're going to buy you the base

spec, you know, crappy, you know, Ford Corsair, which is, which is nice because it's different to what everyone else is driving, which is like an EB Falcon.

And for me, that's just like a real, it's a weird, weird car because like I, yeah, I wasn't, who would be the person that's buying that car? And I don't think anybody like

like what would have been like an old lady buying that car is like a final car or an old couple.

Is it similar to an, or to an Avalon situation?

So what are you? What are you guys who bought who

bought a Ford Corsair when they were new?

I think it's someone that just doesn't care is someone that would kind of buy it. You know, they don't know too

much. They just see it's a pretty good

price. You know, it's an average size

car. It's not, it's not a big 4 door

car. So it's not like you EA's around

that time, EA's and EB's and it's just mid size and they just want to keep it as Ford. Maybe that's all they've known

as Ford or something on that side of the family.

So that's what they went with. Grandparents have to drive

grandkids around. OK, so you're saying

grandparents put that as their like the last car?

Yeah. Yeah.

No, I can see that. I can definitely see that.

What about you, Alan? Look, there's something nice

about the Ford course here. What?

There's nothing nice about it. We look at the same course

there, this thing. No, we're looking at the the

later 90s one. All right, all right.

Let me change that. Let me change.

That the the Nissan based Nissan Bentara bass one.

I reckon it was 90s hipsters. 90s hipsters, yeah.

They want something else. There weren't no hipsters at the

time. They had a plethora of vehicle

to choose from where they choose that.

Well, I can't see why else you'd buy the car, because you'd be like those. People that were like a little

bit blind and they're squinting and they thought it was a Camry.

Or it was a cheaper Camry. They couldn't afford to buy a

Camry. Yeah, all that too.

You could trick people I guess. And, and they got it on, on, you

know, like a driveway price with free air.

It was and it was guaranteed to somebody who like can explain to somebody else like no, well, you see, this is actually based on a Pantara and you know so that and especially but it's cooler for this reason. Because it's a Ford.

Yes, I'm telling you it would have been 90s hipsters. 90s OK,

All right, I. I They weren't known as hipsters

at the time. What?

What would they be known as them?

Just weirdos. Just weirdos.

People with their friends. Just weirdos.

All right, well, again, that's our first one to start with.

Now I want I want to bring you guys bring you guys all the Internet. You kind of get the idea who

bought the Holden jackaroo because like for me, you bought a Jackaroo even if you couldn't afford a Land Cruiser.

Am I, am I, am I, am I right in saying that or like, all right, you'd have to you'd have to because like everyone's like Land Cruiser, Land Cruiser, Land Cruiser, even even like patrol.

Why would you have bought unless you're like a Holden fanatic?

The jackaroo over a / a any, even a bloody Pajero that you would have bought. You would have bought that over.

So you know how we discussed low income single dad?

Car. Yeah, yeah.

This is like the precursor to becoming a low income single dad. So what do you mean?

So when you're still married but your marriage is a bit rough you. Know.

Maybe it's it's on the rocks and you're arguing every day and you're like, you know what, I'm going to go buy this.

And this is like, it's like the final nail in the coffin.

Where she kicks you, she kicks you out, she.

Take the car so she leaves with the car because she hates it.

It was like the final like financial stress on the family that you went purchased. I wanted to go off roading with

the boys with the. Boys, but I couldn't quite get

my land. It's hold a nutty.

It's, it's Australian. It's.

Called a jackaroon. Jackaroon Jackaroo.

It's like I said, it's the precursor to becoming a low income super death. It LED you down that path.

That that's my push. I don't know.

I'm happy to hear other other options.

No, I don't think you've nailed it off to be honest with you.

I could, I could picture him in therapy.

And they're like, so how did you get to this point?

And he's thinking back. He goes, that bloody Holden

jackaroo. Like going back.

Would you Would you change? Things.

Would you not get the checker? Oh, no, love.

I'd get it. I'd get it again.

I love the seven seed option, it was great.

Rob, do you remember the Jackaroo when they were new?

I do, my mate had one all. Right.

Is he is he now a low income single dad by any chance?

Oh, he's he's a well off. Oh.

Granddad OK, Is he OK? Well.

Early 50s? Really.

OK. Was he ever at risk of becoming

a low income single dad? Never, never.

Well, here I am proven wrong. But another mate of mine, his

mum, had one that was separate, separated.

OK, so she took so she took the car.

She. Took the car, so there you go.

Oh, there. You go, that's, that's the

precursor. So you, you bought a jacket or

OK, so it was a, it was a, so I think we've established it's a, it's a financial strain on the, the, the last possible financial strain on the family. They've traded in the the

Commodore Waggon, which you know, just just to get you over the line and he's and dad's come home in his brand new Jackaroo.

He's like, we'll go camp and love, you know, we're going to turn this thing around, turn the marriage around.

I'll still love you. And she's like, she's packing

her. Back, She's talking to her.

She's contacting the divorce lawyer.

She's like, oh, I like that patrol you got.

Yeah. He's got a patrol.

It's a Holden mate. He's got to explain it.

He's got to explain it. All right, I'm with you on that

one. I think, I think you've known

that Scotty and Dad and Rob are you would have agreed with that like that's. Yeah, yeah, that's too good.

Yeah, it's I think, I think you've absolutely now that now, now the jackaroo. The next one I've got for you

guys is the Holden Vectra. The sticker with Holden, the

first Gen Vectra. Now for me, you would have only

bought this car if you were a bit of a bad snob, but you couldn't afford to buy like a Mercedes.

So, oh, it's a, it's a European made Holden.

It's got, and then you'd be always talking about the, the wing mirrors and how the bonnet, you know, the, the, the, it's very aerodynamic and it's got a, it's got a digital trip metre in the car and you know, it's European built, even though it's not in like it's not German built, but it's, it's European built. It's and you'd be talking about

it's it's prowess as a proper European car, even though after about 30 to 40,000 KS your water pump wouldn't start leaking, but it's a European car that is. I think the person that would

would have probably bought that or a sales Rep that again, like the Corsair wasn't liked by their boss too much and I think ended up with that. Would you?

What do you guys think? So we're talking the first

generation. Show me.

No, this one. No, we got the second we got

from the second one we got we. Got the second one.

We got it from. That's facelift 87 to 2006.

That's yeah. The first one was vector B.

Yeah, that's the one, the vector B.

It's like you can't afford a Honda Accord.

So you end up with a vector, but like, but again, I would have said because Holden we're really on that, you know, it's a European, it's European styling, it's a European maiden built car, designed car. I think that that was kind of

like there, but. What?

So the ones that we had in Australia, weren't they assembled in Elizabeth or? No, no, the veggies weren't.

Oh, OK. I think possibly the engines

might have been but like for some of the range, because I I know the I know the old, oh, what were they the Calibras were I think they had engines that were.

Seems like a car that somebody would RIP the badges off and pretend it's European. We'll put the Opal badge, yeah.

Yeah, I was about to ask that. I go to, you know, people back

then, they just put the Opal badge on it.

Well, a good mate of mine who's he's been on the show many times right now and he knows who he is.

I'm not going to call him out, but he had an, he had an Astra and he put an Oval badge on it. Yeah.

And he just did it because it was funny.

But like, deep down, he did it because he liked.

It he liked it. He liked it 100%.

He liked it, yeah. Was he the same man that changed

his cluster LED's to like a slightly lighter shade of blue?

Was it? No, I think I might have been

white. He changed them to like white,

white. OK.

Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

It's somebody who's like, yeah, kind of look at that.

Oh no, this is the 500 state, one step, one step ahead of the mob. That's what a what?

A marketing campaign. I think, I think they would have

been in their early 30s having a family and said this is the suit, you know, but I want some. Working a corporate job hasn't.

You 100% corporate job? Yeah, absolutely.

Working a corporate job in the city and you know, lives in the inner suburbs like in not too far off from the city, you know, you know, park his car outside because you know, once people don't know what he's got, but also doesn't have a garage, doesn't have a garage and you know, wanted to have have a European car, but wouldn't quite stretch that three series BMW.

So it ends up with a Holden Vectra.

My next one for you guys is Ford Capri like the but the convertible ones. So who bought Ford Capris when

they were new? Like the convertible capris.

I'm still struggling to figure out who who ended up buying or who who bought them. And they didn't sell in great

numbers for obvious reasons. But for me, I thought it was

like, you know, like young women who wanted a convertible and didn't really care about driving dynamics, didn't really care about MX Fives. But the but the ones that

actually cared about driving actually bought MX Fives.

So what's your take on the Capri?

A gentleman that I I don't work with him, but technically he works in the same company as me, but he's Interstate.

He owns a Ford Capri and trying to be civil about this, he's happily married, that sort of thing with I believe some kids.

But you know, I'm true. My best not to insult this man.

I think you guys are getting what I'm putting down.

Yeah, very much so. Yeah, he's a bit of a Wiener,

OK. Empty nesters.

Empty nesters would have bought it.

OK. All right, Rob, why do you think

empty nesters would have bought? It I just, you know, they're at

that age where they fought, you know, they'll treat themselves to a convertible car and go out on the weekends with the top down and, you know, go down the coast and stuff like that.

It's my sports car. Look at my sports car.

Yeah, even though they fought the targeting young budget conscious buyers, but they weren't really budget friendly, were they? No they were quite pricey from

memory. Like I remember as a kid they

were very expensive. So your empty nesters, your of a

bit of a Wiener. Of a Wiener, yeah.

And Scotty, what would you say who bought a who bought a Ford Capri? Yeah, I'm stuck thinking about

like now. It's like a a Barbie car, you

know, it is a little bit able to buy the Barbie convertible.

That's what was an emu version of that.

Closest I could get that they're like, that's the one I'm going to buy. Well, I've got a question for

you. Is it more of a Barbie car than

a first Gen MX5? They've both got pop ups, both

very similar size. Yeah, there's something about

it. There's something really

feminine about this coat. Hairdressers, car, maybe, you

know, but. Again, MX fives were considered

hairdressers car and if you're if you're.

Saying this is you're right. So, you know, if this is more of

a hairdressers car, like yeah, at what point?

Well so the MX5 is like that person will just cut your hair right? But I also the MX5 people put

cars, MX fives were actually bought by people that actually like to drive. Yeah, they'll cut your hair and

that's it. Whereas like the Capri is like

they give you a perm and you know.

Dying. Oh, they're actually a hair

stylist Styles, they own the salon.

Jeez. I'm looking at a.

Picture of 1 right now and the driver in it that they've got is a a balding large man with a moustache.

Oh my God, no. Driving it.

I was going to say, maybe it's maybe it's a toupee, maybe not, but is it an automatic? A lot of them will order, yeah,

a lot of them will. Order and that's the kind of

those differentiating differentiating factors between the MX5 and the Capri yeah is the MX5 was by all accounts still a very sporty vehicle that you everyone nearly brought it in a manual. I think I've seen one automatic

in my searches. I've only seen one automatic in

real life. Yeah.

Like, unless it's the I'd of like the like the first couple.

Yeah, I saw in a order. I was like, wow, this.

They came in order. Yeah.

What? Where is this?

Like, yeah, like you said, I wouldn't be surprised if you see one that's an automatic. I should ask that guy if this is

automatic should ask. Send him a message here, we need

to know the answer. So I remember seeing an ad for

one and it was like a, you know, a blonde haired girl with big, big 80s hair just frolicking with the hair down, driving and smiling. I remember it was like a as a as

a Ford ad you what have you sent?

I'm just trying to. Check, I just sent you the

picture of the old the old bloke driving.

He's Capri. Hopefully as it opens on my end.

Yeah, so, so Capri's. Yeah, it was.

It was interesting, interesting car.

I always liked him as a kid. That's probably why I was, I was

a bit of a bit of a weirdo, but I now much prefer MX5.

Moving on swiftly before I embarrass myself anymore.

The early 2000s in Honda Integra.

Now we're not talking Type R, we're just talking the Integra when I was a kid and I and like I was in early high school and they were, they were new and getting driven around.

They were all bought by women in their 20s and early 30s.

Like I, I don't think I ever saw a guy drive one.

And they were all automatic and they were all like, you know, the base, their base back like like a type bar was bought by, you know, by a, a person that actually, you know, like cared about driving. So did you say DC5?

DC5 generation, yes. So yeah, those ones are all I

remember as a kid. And I remember our year 12

coordinator had one. She had, she had, she had a

silver one. As you misremembering Scott

Maddie. No, I'm pretty sure.

I thought it was a Celica it. Might have been No, no, no.

She had an Integra. She had a Celica, Sir did.

She yes. OK, I only know because I

crushed all this teacher, but it was an automatic Celica.

OK, OK, well, but. The funny thing is, since you

mentioned that, the thing that I immediately like went to mind was the 7th generation Celica. OK.

Yeah, because that was also that very group.

There was, yeah. That was like the kind of late

20s. The banana one.

Yeah, yeah. And there was also a frequent,

we'll call it market. Yeah.

Was that late 20s, kind of early 30s?

It was female in the automatic. Yeah.

Who sort of just looked cool. There's the bee's knees in

there. Look, the cars, the Celica, it's

probably my favourite Celica from Need for Speed.

You know, it's, it's something cool to it, but it's.

Got a great engine, yeah, marvellous engine.

But it was purchased by, especially in the specs it was purchased in, it was purchased by individuals that are probably thinking they're getting like a sporty car, but they're really just getting like a nice car. That's you know.

Well, they were quite sporty, although they were actually a good drive. Yeah, because I mean, both those

cars were good drives. Because I wouldn't.

Again, you're not getting the best out of the orders for that.

Yeah, I agreed. So no, I certainly agree with

that. Like any kind of non type R

Integra. Yeah, it was like the sporty car

for like the the young ladies you know, who are full adults, you know, kind of approaching that middle age point.

Look, just just to clarify, we're not saying every person who bought this car, we're just saying like the general demographic of people that bought, bought that that version of that car. I said, I remember as a kid,

they were all driven by, driven by women.

And that's, that's cool. But you know, they're, they're,

they're a good looking car. They're actually a really nice

looking car. But yeah, it was, I think I

don't know who they were trying to market that car to like it was, was that the the intended target?

Because that seemed to be like the people that bought them in, in, in in a majority because most of them automatic for sale.

There's hardly any manuals. And I think for that reason that

like the way outsold, you know, for that reason.

So female escorts that make good money, but.

Well, that'd be moved on to the BMWs by then, Rob.

If it's good money, but like it'd be.

Yeah. Because like you said, if you

wanted us on in the proper sports car, you'd try and get yourself into a typer. Yeah.

That wasn't That was easier said than done, of course.

Maybe a typer was a new a Newton version, but it's still a typer.

Still a typer, but if you're just like an average person who's let's just say you've grown up in a family of, like, car guys and like, all your brothers are, you know, big into cars, and you're like, well, I want something sporty.

Yeah. And that's kind of yeah, your

pick because you're like, well, it's not that expensive.

It looks the part. Well, they were kind of pricey

though. Like they weren't cheap because

because the Hondas were, they were always a little bit more money than the than the. What else was kind of out there

that was 2 door at the time? Well, there's a silica.

Yeah, there was. The next car I'm going to talk

about in a second, which is the Hyundai TB run.

Oh, yeah, yeah, that's the next one I'm about to bring up.

There was that, there was the silica, there was a TV on.

There was the MX 6 was gone by then.

That was the what else? What else would it be?

There but they all they all seem to fit that bill of like the I think I'm into sports cars, but I'm not actually going to commit commit and invest all the we. Still want reliability, so yeah.

You're not going to drive a six feet manual, that sort of thing.

Yeah, because you're driving this quote unquote sports car to work every day and you don't want to deal with the clutching clutch. Yeah, you're getting it for the

2 doors, Yeah. Yeah, you're going to be like,

Oh yeah, The kids are like, she's got a sports car and she's cool. She's cool.

Yeah. And you know, like I said, ball

powered that teacher. I was crushing on her, you know,

back in the year 12. So, OK.

So in terms of what else was there at that time, I think it was just that was it like there was the Celica, there was the the TEG, the Tib you're on we didn't get.

Too many Tiburons, did we? And we got a fair few, like they

sold me for a long time, they were all bought by a demographic that couldn't afford the silica or the OR the but they got AV six. Yeah, they did so.

I gentleman we knew I ended up purchasing one.

This was like his P plat a car or post P plat a car.

What happened to that car I. Don't know, All I knew was his

one was hammered. Yeah, it was pretty big, He.

Had to pay a lot of money to repair it.

Yeah. So you would have been like the

second or third owner at that point.

Yeah. But yeah, I'd say I agree with

that demographic overall. I don't know if that was the

marketed demographic, but that's who the the.

Buyer was yeah, OK. And, and the fact that I guess

the auto option really helped sales because you know, you could, you could get into one a bit easier, right?

Yeah, it's always that point of like, oh, I want a sports car.

It's like, well, you're ready to be shifting gears everywhere.

No, not really. I kind of enjoy the automatic.

Yeah. And that's just like, well, we

got something for you. Yeah.

Here you go. It's it's long.

Look, it looks, it looks sporty. Yeah, sure.

Sporty. Yeah, I I think, yeah, I think

that might have been the demographic for it in in the grand scheme of things, to be honest with you.

So the Tiburon, on the other hand, was sold by Hyundai.

Now back then Hyundai was known for not selling converter commas greatly built cars and reliable, but not greatly, you know, in terms of quality, fit and finish as you as your Hondas and your Toyotas and and the like. I I bet the other there's a car,

I don't remember one of the Ford Kuga.

Remember that that that from the early 2000s that was a terrible car that they replaced the Probe.

That wasn't it was not a good car, so that there was that was Fords offering. But yeah, the the Tiburon was by

all accounts a decent car. Even Top Gear really liked.

I said it's a Hyundai. We actually liked basics you,

which you didn't get in the other end and the other cars probably still not as powerful as the as the four songs, which is surprising. Just just a bit smoother Bing

Bing your your 6 cylinder. I always thought if you bought a

Tiburon, especially if you bought an automatic Tiburon, you just wanted a car that looked good, you know, and it there was a good looking car. We we're talking the second.

Generation. Second generation.

Yeah, close. Saw a picture of the 1st.

Yeah, talking second Gen Tiburon good looking car and I think it's same, same similar demographic to the tech buyer of the Time 2 door coupe. Good looking car.

Yeah. And you just want to say, oh,

look, look, I can flex with my, with my face.

You watch Fast and the Furious. It's a very fast and furious

looking car. It is.

You're like, yeah, man, I'm as cool as Paul Walker in this.

He's a person that spent like a big time explaining why is the Hyundai. Yeah, oh, I went with the

Hyundai because and that went off.

Why all these reasons? Why it's?

Got the V6. But I didn't.

That V6 was only pumping out 128.

Kilowatts, yeah. It wasn't a lot it it wasn't a

lot it definitely. Wasn't there's only 2.7 ladies?

But still I expect better. So they can make more 141

kilowatts. Yeah, but yeah, you're right,

Scott. You'd have to be explained to

people what what it was like like, oh what because.

And it didn't have Hyundai. Imagine you had tea.

Remember the the TB you're on about to do that.

The T did. So what's a TB you're on?

Ah, well, you see, it's a Hyundai, but it's, it's their sports car, you know, and. Then as soon as they say

Hyundai, especially back then, they just tune out.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, guaranteed there are people that are like, it's not only it's a 2 year old, look at the badge.

It's a state and I feel like I've been in one.

It wasn't a bad car to be honest with you.

It was nicely appointed and everything and and I think you bought that because you looked at what you got with the other ones and. The timber sold at a I guess

better price point. Much better price point yeah,

and but, but you got a lot more for for your money.

Yeah. So you want pretty much

everything with the tip you're on like you got you could I think you could you could option option them with a leather and and interior and a few bits and pieces.

But you got a lot more standard kit for your for your coin and you got your V6 and you got your you know, your good looks essentially, whereas with the the Toyota, the the looks are a bit subjective. I also thought they looked kind

of cool and the, and the Honda was a good looking car.

But again, you paid, you paid a Honda tax and you paid Toyota tax for, for those two. So yeah, it's, it was bought.

It was bought by people who probably just couldn't stretch that to that point and sold it really quickly, probably after straight after warranty because they didn't like, they got sick of Rouinier explaining what it was and said, OK, now I probably, I probably should, you know, I've saved up a little bit more. I can probably get a nicer a

nicer vehicle. Funnily enough, I just think

because it's a successor was a velocity.

Yeah. And I'm like the people that

would have bought and TV run would have been like in the future, people that would have bought well, we're not in the future like the next generation of those people would be like velocity buyers like. Well, I think I've had this

discussion with a few people who and like are people who buy Velocity girls, like everyone that's that's bought a Velocity Brainy as a girl. And I'm like, Are you sure?

And then I then I was talking to people and then my sister's best friend bought a Brainy Velocity Turbo.

And I'm like, OK, well, yeah, Jewel clutch, not a manual version. And she's like, yeah, it's fun.

Let's see it looks cool and I I guess that's the and when I guess looks are a big thing in terms like if the car looks cool, they'll buy it. And again, if if all the same

principle, I think there's also turbos only made 150 kilowatts.

Yeah, not even that, aren't they?

So it's like, again, are you really getting yourself a sports car, which I'm not saying 150 kilowatts is low, that's certainly reasonable. But given the like the era of

which the engine would have come out and it's a turbo, you expect a little bit. More.

More yeah, so like that it's something that engines the basis of the the I30I-20 N you know version which which made the 450 kilowatts kilowatts. But yeah, it's an interesting

it's an interesting dynamic that car the tip you're on because it was by all accounts a decent car.

It just, I don't think got, I don't think it was bought for the right reasons, if that makes sense.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. Yeah, it.

Was yeah. It was a select demographic,

wasn't it? Yeah, I actually had one as a

loan car when I bought my WRX all.

Right. Around for about a week before

the WRX was transferred and everything to my name.

And that was it. That was all right.

Yeah, it was. It was a good car on the

highway. We drove well, drove well to

work every day. Was it an order or a manual?

Order. It was an order.

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it was an auto, yeah.

I don't think, I don't think I've ever seen a manual one for sale. Like unless they probably didn't

even bring. I mean, they would have had to

have brought manuals here, right?

Probably, but I don't think that's old many.

Yeah, well, that, yeah, that really just shows, you know who bought, who bought the car. It's a it's an interesting one.

Next one is the R31 Pintara, not the Skyline, the Pintara.

So this is the four cylinder R31.

My uncle had one of these back in the day and he thought it was, he thought it was absolutely the best car in the world because it had dual exhausts, you know, like the on the, on the one muffler. And he's like, it's faster than

your dad's car because you got 2 exhausts.

And and I was like, what? But anyway, that that was that

was, that was another story. I was like, OK, sure.

So the, the 31 Pintara was the car for me that was bought by your uncle who wanted to have a cool looking car but couldn't quite get to A to to the couldn't quite get to the to get to the Skyline. And, and, and preferred a bit

more frugality with a 4 cylinder, which in turn really used the same amount of fuel because it was still putting the same amount of car around and had to work even even harder.

You bought it because it had electronic fuel injection.

You bought it because, you know, you thought it was a safe cut.

You know, it was decent size and you could still fit everything.

But I think it was bought by grandparents who who, who they bought that car so they could take the grandkids in the car.

It was cheaper to run on a fuel than the six cylinder Skyline still looked half decent, but that you know, and it was priced cheaper. I think that's the their

grandparents are the only people that actually bought that car and. Again, I feel I knew a couple of

grandparents who had that particular car so.

Yeah, they, they bought would you and, and, and I guarantee the, the, the Nissan dealership would have been like, now listen here, Mavis, you've come into here, you're looking at the Scotland, but look, that's a bit too much power for you.

I think we, we, we'll try and give you one of these Pintares, which is the same thing, just just better fuel economy.

And, and in real in, in all realism, that car has been on the lot for like the last year and haven't been able to shift it. So they're like, you know, and

they're saying all the same things about the Scotland in the, in the cheaper and more fuel efficient package.

And I think that's how that's how they got the sale.

This is so funny because that's what my uncle had too.

No. Did he have a Pintara?

Yeah, so he had the Pintara and I had it up to, I'm pretty sure the next car they got was like, what's the model just before the El? The Ed or or the EF So the EF

they would have had the EF. Yeah, it was the EF and they got

one of those in manual and then it stayed.

They didn't have it, but still stayed in the family.

It was with my, with my grandpa, so when we were over there, he'd still kind of use it and we'd drive around to places and stuff in it too. Find you.

They had a Magna as well, obviously.

And then it turned into his Bush car because he's rabbit traps and all that kind of stuff goes rabbiting and all that kind of stuff. So in the back seat you'd have,

you know, 50 or 60 rabbit traps. Head out into the Bush and you

just drive. Through the Bush.

In this pintara, this manual pintara that he's driving, just hammering over rocks everywhere, the thing just kept on going.

It was invincible. They were quite a stout thing

from Emory. Like they were, they were.

They were very stout. This thing went everywhere

around the Bush. It just never failed.

You'd take it through air as you're like there's there's no way but smashing around and fine.

So very impressed with that car. Is it still around?

Nah, it eventually died. Yeah, it it would have been good

if it was still around, but. Yeah.

The one thing I remember is the the volume control on the back with a little knob knob. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's the one thing, because I used to spend time sitting in the back and looking around going Oh my God, Get Me Out of here. Because by the time my grandpa

started using it in the Bush, it would just sit out in the back shed and there's like dead spiders.

Hanging spider. Webs all inside.

I'm. Like, are they alive?

But no, I never came across one that was alive in there.

So it kind of just smelt like dead rabbits in there too by the end, yeah. So the Pintara are bought by

people who like to go rabbiting. There you go.

That. Yeah, that should have been the

slogan. It did a really good job.

Good. What about when it first came

out? Never had anything like it

before the XR6 turbo. Oh, that's a, that's a good one.

That's a good question. We've had turbo cars before and

stuff, but then all of a sudden this full size car comes out straight. That's for the upper middle

class bogan mate. No, yeah, I would have agreed

with. You V8.

The upper class was always the V8.

That's why and that's why I think it was bought by people who were coming out of a WRX into into like if we just had a family. You're done with the RAM raids.

Done with the ram raiding. Made their cash to all the ram.

You're talking about me because I had to Derby RX and I've still got my XR6. That was the RAM raid.

Ram raids, Were they wrong? How many?

Were they successful? Wrong.

Yeah. As he looks over the dam with

the corners like the. Statute of limitations has

passed. That's quite wrong.

Deb's in the corner going. We can.

Afford everything that we've got.

That's fairly, I honestly think it was bought by people who had WRXS and they, they needed to be a car for the family.

And they're like, well, we we don't want AV 8 because, you know, we're, we're turbo guys. Yeah.

So we'll so all Fords offered in XR6 turbo.

So we'll go take it to jobs. What the hell?

This thing goes good? Yeah, This, this, this seems all

right. I think part of it also would

have been, do you tell the Mrs, you know, the Mrs like get rid of WRX. It's we need a family car.

Yeah. And you're like, all right, I'll

buy a Via. And they're like, no, that's not

a family car. You get a big old engine.

Like I want something safe for the kids.

You're like, oh, this is a six cylinder.

Yeah, that's how they come. That's the compromise, yeah.

It's like, you know, I mentioned the turbo part and then next thing you know, you have a great time now.

In my case, I saw WRX because we're upgrading to a family car as well, but Deb still needed a small car.

She couldn't drive the manual anymore because of a shoulder injury. OK, OK.

Yeah, so he sold the WRX and got her a golf, which is the worst mistake I ever had done. Yeah, you.

Should have kept that Rex. Yeah, I bought the G5 and that

was, look, it was a good car while it was going.

Yeah, after four years, everything started falling apart on it. Yeah, unfortunately so.

But again, very nice car, very refined.

It was a beautiful car for its time, but unreliable.

So then you got, so you got the rid of the wrecks, you got that and then you bought the SS6 tow off that, Yeah.

We have each of that now. We bought some other cars in

between that where we had Grand Vitaras and then we bought the Jeep 4 wheel drive and then I've got the XR6 after the Jeep.

Yeah. Yeah, company cars.

So the XR6 was part of my salary package.

OK, Yeah. Oh, I'm not I wish, you know,

still, they'd still do that. As you know, used to be, used to

be a thing. You got a car, you know, it's

part of your package and and they you'd upgrade you every few years, you'd get a new one. And yeah, it was, it was, it was

a cool time to be alive as a as a as a human.

I don't really do it anymore, but I think that's to answer your questions for you. I think that's who bought the

XL6 turbo. They couldn't, they couldn't get

along with AV8. They're coming out of AWRX.

They're coming. They're coming out of like a

like a Celica or like or a sports car of some description.

They had a bit of power, but like, but they wanted a family car, but they still wanted a bit of power, like to have a bit of fun on the weekends and they wouldn't.

Yeah, I reckon, I reckon the test drive would have sucked in quite a lot of people. Absolutely not what to expect.

And then all of a sudden like, oh, OK, all right.

Yeah, this is surprisingly good. Yeah, yeah, the, you know, the

V8 versions definitely run for their money big time.

Well, people I know know that though they were quicker than the exit rates like they, they, they just were, they said there were, you know, a lot less power just to keep the, the V8 people happy because. Yeah, yeah.

But people I knew knew and I think that's and I think also that's another reason that they got over the line with with with those buyers. And even though I I saw somebody

born next to Z Turbo knew and Rob, you were one of these people like you were, you know, youngish dad of of you know, of, you know, of two. And you know, you said, yeah,

it's it's a good family car. You know it does the job for

what I need. Yeah, absolutely.

Because because you were shopping that between that and a rally art, weren't you? At one point I was.

Yeah. So it was a work car.

So I I could have, yeah, chose, chosen whatever I wanted.

And it wasn't necessarily necessarily for the family.

That's something that's still practical.

Yeah, you could tow. Yeah, and that's the thing with

the XR, the XR6, you could, it was a better towing card than the rally art. Yeah.

And about the same price. So I'm not sure what's held its

value better, a rally art or an XR6?

Probably the rally art wouldn't. It no, the X the XR6 is the

rally art. They dropped quite considerably

because of the jewel clutch gearboxes that they had they had you know a few issues, so there you go no, I think you've done well on your XX turbo Rob. That's that's definitely a car

that you've done well on. It's.

A goodbye. Yeah, very.

Goodbye. Oh, I think it's some of the car

quiz gents. I agree.

Who's doing the car quiz today? Scotty Doe.

So there's no, there's no collusion, there's no, there's no nothing. So Scotty, I'll keep score for

you. So tonight we've we've got a few

players playing, we've got myself, we've got Rob and we've got Alan. So Scotty Doe, the floor is

yours. You may take it away.

So. Question one.

Question one. Let's go.

What Car was the final ride for the Pope?

Rob. Rob.

Is it a Mercedes? No.

Matthew. Matthew.

I'm going to say because they're trying to be all, you know, environments on the other the the church.

Was it a like a like AI was going to say cyber truck?

No. Was it, was it a, was it an

electric like electric Tesla or something?

No, OK. Nothing electric.

Sorry, sorry. Nothing electric.

Nothing electric. What was the question?

What was the Pope's last ride in?

The Popemobile. That was a Mercedes.

That was a Mercedes. Yeah, that was his last ride, or

it was a Hearst debit. No, no.

Wasn't it? Did it take him to hearse?

It was OK. It was a George RAM.

Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was a Ram 1500.

What? Yeah, a white Ram 1500.

What? The hell he's still alive.

That's just I'm dreaded. They threw his bloody.

This, this, this was his body in his car skin, Yeah.

Was it like open or was it just? I've got no.

Idea Box. Wow.

They had him with a trucker hat on.

There's. A.

Couple of things around 1500, that's the thing they.

Had him with the Marga hat on dead Marga camp.

Then the Donald Trump was that there.

He's like, he was the best poop in history, maybe ever that.

Why Donald Trump was there. Was he there?

Yeah, really. He was there.

One to rob you. You get that point around 1500.

There you go. Question #2 I feel like I've

done this question before, but anyway, what was the car used on the rails to go around in the park in the movie Jurassic Park?

The rails. Matthew.

Matthew. Was it a Ford Explorer?

Yeah, it was. Yep, Ford Explorer.

Exploder. Because I know some people got

that confused and said it was a Jeep and stuff like that.

So but not on the rails. It wasn't a Jeep question #3 at

the start of the movie John Wick, What Car does he drive?

Rob. Rob.

There's a Mustang. Bit more. 6768 Mustang.

Bit more. It was a bass back.

Bit more. Oh, you going?

He's got .5 so far. Yeah, give him .5.

Alan Oh it was GT350. That's not.

For the other .5, can I go Boss 429?

Yeah. Yeah.

OK, you guys make me look bad. Score check just just don't make

you even look worse. Now I'll.

Could turn this play zoom off. Mate, rolling myself for 1.5.

I'll be at the score. I had to be super rare.

That one. Isn't it the boss 4 you know?

That's that's the Holy Grail of no.

Wonder he killed everyone that the puppy was just an excuse.

Excuse, excuse. You can always get another one

of those but a boss 429. Yeah, I I get it.

I get it, John, I get it. I would have done the same.

Thing #3 In which year did the first ever Porsche 9/11 model was unveiled? It's not in production, but

unveiled. I'm trying to think now when was

the 356 because it it just passed it.

I'm going to say, Matthew, can we do closest too?

If you want sure. I'm going to say 62.

OK, 62. I'll go 69. 69 alum.

Alum, I'll say 63. All right, alum, you win.

You got it spot on. Really.

Jeez, that's a he does this all the time.

Because one of you is always one off.

David, I hope you're listening. He's taking the fierce mate

seriously. I I thought I was like, can we?

I thought it was very close. Scorching.

Yeah, you're going to be scorching.

Yeah, you're on one. Yeah, you're still, you're still

losing. It's anyone's game mate.

It is anyone's game that is true.

So our bonus question is, obviously it's the 9/11, but what was it originally called? It was originally called

something and then they changed it to the 9/11.

It's because it was the same number as another car, but they had to change it. Matthew.

Was the 921? Nah.

OK. You got the 9 bit and you got

the one bit, correct? Yeah, OK.

It's like that Game of the Mastermind.

Yeah. Something yeah, I, I remember,

remember reading this when I, when I did my research on the 911 years ago. And because it was, it was a

name clash with with Peugeot, right?

That's what I thought it was the name.

Alan was the 961. Nah.

Because in the middle what? Yeah.

How can it work with the information given?

Can you blame a guy? Yeah, I can't blame you, Rob.

You, you I'm just right out there. 9 was wasn't a 959 bit

was no. No, it was 90190.

One, there you go. 901 originally and then they said no

911. Yeah, next question.

This one is a well will be the closest to.

So what is the price paid for the most expensive classic car one at an auction? Was this, I think this was

recent, It was that Ferrari, that crazy Ferrari.

I'm going to say it was $200 million.

OK, about 200. I will say, wait, we're talking

American dollar reduce, we'll say 120.

Yeah, we're talking American. Yeah, 120 mil.

And I'll go 150 he's. Doing an LM.

All right. Closest to whoops is Rob.

Who was it? It was 142 million.

Wow. What Car was it?

Is that the bonus question? That's the bonus question.

Bonus question is What Car was it?

All right, maybe not the Ferrari.

Maybe it might be something different?

Yeah, not Ferrari. I'll give you all that.

Not Ferrari. Was it the Lamborghini?

What was that model? The one I'm.

Gonna stop you there. I'll stop you there.

It's not Lamborghini. OK, I Matthew, I'm going to say.

Maybe the thinking so you have to keep going.

Well, I'll give Rob unless you want.

To unless you want to think of another car, that's fine.

You can. You can still be in, that's all

right. Shelby, Daytona.

Nah. OK, on out.

I'm just trying to think, is it like A and that's the matter?

A Jaguar. To be something really obscure,

I think. Yeah.

That's why I went for like the Shelby Daytona, you know, it's like it's a it's. Definitely a good crack.

Originally I would have thought Ferrari, but yeah.

P1 that was sold a little while back.

P ones they're not in the hundreds of millions, they're.

Like 10s of 1,000,000 right? They're 10s, yeah, but they're

not hundreds. Yeah.

Maybe you're getting? I like your thinking, but not.

Oh, Alan, you're not. I got nothing I'm.

Going to bring everyone in again, and I'm going to give you the car maker, OK? It's the model.

All right, Mercedes. Oh, OK.

I think Matthew, was it the Mercedes SL, but like that the prototype SL like that that they that they had like the prototype race SL. Yeah, I'll give you that.

Yeah, I. It was the 300 SLR, yeah.

SLR, that's it. Yeah.

Well, that went for $145 million.

Yeah, from yeah, 1955 Merck 300. SLR Rice.

For 142 million, well, that's insane.

That's all right. I'll get my chequebook out guys

and. Yeah, geez, it should just be in

a museum. I'd.

Hate to. I'd hate to own that like you'd

hate to. Own.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, like, I mean, what

can you do with it For me, that's just a flex car, right?

Like he's like, hey, I just spent 142,000,000 on a on all Mercedes. Like it's just to say you've got

it and you can do it. That's that's a that's an insane

amount of money it. Should be in Jay Leno's

collection. It should be.

All right, next question. Callaway, don't just do golf.

They work on Corvettes too. They made a special one.

They still do work on Corvettes as well.

And what do they use to help reduce the power?

Matthew the 8 Matthew. They use turbo kits.

They do. Got it.

Is that the same company the Callaway Golf clubs in Callaway and like? Now supposedly.

That's a cool tidbit. You've got Callaway, the Golf

all started there and then one of the one of the Suns branched off and did cars and did cars instead under the name.

That's. Cool and did that that's very

cool yeah, so they. Had some fast C4 corvettes back

in the day like twin turbo. Yeah, they're gone.

They were using twin turbo kits, no steeper chargers and anything. They would have been nuts to

drive. That would have been scary.

Not C4. Oh my God.

OK. Just as scary as this in our

next question, which is what year did the Group B rally begin? Oh, closest to Scotty.

Yep, most definitely. Matthew 82.

There's no point doing close to here.

It got it 82 Yep. Next question.

They were insane, by the way, those Group B people, they were nuts. When did it end?

Matthew, I'm going to say 87. OK.

Al, I'm going to say 91. 80. 9. 89 Matthew got.

It's 86. It didn't last long at all.

No, it didn't, because it got banned because too many people were dying. It was pretty bad, yeah.

And because they didn't have to make many Rd versions of it at all, they just made it really light.

And yeah, it was kind of like the way Formula One was, where it was just all about making it as light as possible.

If anything in that time running was probably a Tay day, right?

And like the Group B stuff, like I'll watch some of the Group B documentaries and after like after like a special stage, you know, the drivers hop out of the car.

They're mentally cooked because like they all I can see is just like lines, body, human body parts in like the vents of the cars and stuff when they've been drowned past the people in the crowds are just taking off fingers and things.

It was, it was nuts. And they and they lightened the

cars so much that when they crashed, they pretty much just like blew up. Like there was, there was, there

was really no, you know, structural extra strength because they just made them so light and so powerful.

It would have been, I'd love to, I'd love to meet Michelle Bolton. And like all those, you know,

those crazy drivers, you know, back in the day who were driving these insane, insanely powerful cars, like, like they've, yeah, yeah. You know, in terms of skill, I

think they're unparalleled. You know, they're Walter Rawl

and all these people. They're just nuts.

Nuts, nuts, nuts. Got.

I think we're on the last question.

I'm just making sure I've got this correct because there's just some conflicting reports on it, that's all.

All right. I'm standing up for this, you

know I'm serious. You know I've got no chance to

win. Some tells me this game as well

and truly over. But you know what?

So it's sticking with the Group B theme.

They had to make homologation vehicles.

How many did they have to make? Matthew, Matthew.

I think it was 500. We can do closest too if you

like. OK.

Yeah, closest, I'll take that. Allen, 350 OK.

Rob, 300. Rob, got it.

It's 200. You bought.

Really. Yeah, so I was having a look for

the other rally groups, not Group B.

It was 500. OK, Yeah.

It was usually 500, but for Group B they made it less because they wanted more competition.

Condition. Yeah, that makes sense.

That they made it less. That's why Lancey, that's.

Why I made it more crazier, yeah.

Talking. About the fear when I actually

moving car from one lot to the other the ship.

Correct. Lancey were doing that because

they just didn't make it off of them.

Because they only had like 100 cars, so they moved them from one lot to another. So now you're going to go to

another lot for the other cars, it's the other hundred, and then they're moving to the other lot. Bloody hell.

Jeez, I love stories like that. Like there's some cracking car

stories when when you get yeah, like that.

It's yours. Look, cheating, cheating, but

you always appreciate the ingenuity behind the systems people come up with. Like like the Salika cheating

with the turbo, That was, that was genius.

Like absolute genius. Lancey's little dodgy cheating

things that they did along the way.

If no one's seen it, watch the special with Jeremy Clarkson.

It should be on. It should be on YouTube where it

talks about Lancey and how they battled and staying with rear wheel drive to actually win one of the championship.

Chips. Yeah, that was the last, oh, 37

was the last, you know, real drive car to win the World Rally Championship. So yeah, really interesting.

Ford with the with the Focus in the in the early 2000s, they chose the big rear bumper from the American car and they put this big air tank behind the bumper.

So what would happen is what on the on the and the like acceleration, it'd, it'd charge that that tank and when you come off the, the throttle, the the tank would would keep the turbo spooling. So it'd be on, it'd be on boost

the whole time. So, so that was a pretty cool,

that was a pretty cool little thing they did.

But yeah, I I love stuff like that.

Like just to just. To and there was so much in

Formula One that they did too that.

Was nuts. You know, not really against the

rules or anything, they just found all these loopholes.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's not today that like they're finding loopholes and they're getting they're getting them shut down and shut down and shut down and shut down. I guess that's how you interpret

the rules, right? Like that, that's that's kind

of. Yeah.

You know what I saw just recently, kind of a little bit off topic, but still to do with cars and stuff.

And Australia is what they used to do for the Highway Patrol.

Australian cars, they used to actually properly add a lot more horsepower and stuff, you know, and work them from factory and stuff like that. There was a little documentary

that was kind of just watching and it was on the the Valiant version and what they did to tweak it a bit to get that bit more horsepower than the normal Rd going versions out of that six cylinder. That's what Adam Grass is.

He's got one of those. I think you've been at that,

that charge that was, that was an ex cop, that was an ex cop charger. That thing rips, it goes well.

Yeah. So yeah, it was really

interesting of actually how much work they did to the engine and that compared to, you know, what they do now to chase people down. Do you?

Remember when, when everyone like in the early 2000s, late 2000s, they they when they had an X copper R it's it's got a cop chip. Cop chip.

Yeah, it's all about the cop chip.

But it was really, it was really not much difference in those ones. But the earlier ones, absolutely

no. But back then it was like proper

R&D. Absolutely.

Yeah, 100%. Which caught me by surprise.

It's very interesting. Mama, he's just got a cop chip.

Cop Chip. Yeah, all of them did.

So many SO. Even the non cop cars had cop

tubes. Apparently so.

Yeah, they've got it installed. It's that easy.

It's just like GTH OS, they're all there's, there was about 500 made, there's 5000 left. You know, like there's, there's,

that's they, they, they all exist.

Everyone's going on. Yeah, got to have more.

Got to have them, got to have more.

But anyway, that's the car quiz gentlemen.

Element 1 Rob on 3.5 and I'm your winner tonight on five and.

By golf rules, I win tonight. So thank you.

Thank you, gentlemen. Yeah, it's always golf rules

when I'm doing it, so. Yeah, well, you are.

You are the golf guy, yeah. With that, we're transitioning

to the end of today's programme and the golf tip of the week.

'S golf tip of the week. Golf tip of the.

Week the segue. I wanted to actually get out and

smack some golf balls, but I didn't get around to it.

I did have one and now forgot come back to me.

We'll come back to ya. If it comes back to me.

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I remember now I remember. Golf tips of the week, Scotty.

Back to me, so always go through the wings, golf swings.

OK. Don't rush them right when

you're on your upswing and you go up, and when you're going back on your downswing, don't do them so fast.

That's where you'll mess up and usually start rotating your shoulders. OK.

A good drill is to go swing and then hold it there for a bit and then follow through. What is that just to rest?

Or is that to to make sure you're in the right position before the swing? Yeah, yeah.

Because a lot of times you're rushing it, you're trying to do it as fast as you can, to hit it as hard as you can.

Yeah, it's not needed. OK.

If you understand just some basic physics on how I guess the swing works, I mean, you're not you're not trying to hit it with a baseball bat. You know, you got this long

stick that's swinging down there.

So you can kind of take your time and then kind of bring it back down and a nice down swing and whip it.

If you watch a lot of the female golfers I can, they have the best swings out of anyone because they take their time.

They can hit it a mile, so watch their swings.

They're really nice, slow, controlled.

They smack it, absolutely. It's good Rob's doing it.

Anything you want to know, Rob's doing it.

Transit issues? He's doing it as well.

Homework. Too.

Homework yet? Rob.

Homework. He'll do your homework.

Homework as to the quality of the homework being done.

But the end results are fine. Yeah, you get into some hard

work. Yeah, probably paid work.

It'd be perfect. You know, homework we've

written. Yeah.

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master's degree that that's a shocking, that's a shocking truth. So you can't please get degrees.

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