{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"Special Guest: Jennifer Khasnabis","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/special-guest-jennifer-khasnabis","audioUrl":"https://motorweek.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/MW-Podcast-375_FINAL_0415_MP3.mp3","description":"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tWe are back with another one of our special anniversary themed podcast episodes! This time John Davis is joined by Jennifer Khasnabis, who stepped in as our FYI and Motor News reporter from 1999-2004 after the departure of Lisa Barrow. John and Jennifer talk about some of her favorite memories, what she’s up to know, and a bit of advice she got from Lisa after she started!\n\n\t\t\t\t\t                "},"annotations":[{"startTime":206.6,"endTime":211.7,"type":"concept","title":"auto company PR shop","url":"/glossary/auto-company-pr-shop","quote":"She went to work for the auto company PR shop\nand we were really didn't know where we were going","canonicalId":"concept:auto-company-pr-shop","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"An “auto company PR shop” is a public-relations firm or in-house PR team that handles communications for an automaker—press releases, media relations, and event coverage. It’s relevant because automotive PR can shape what cars get attention and how new models are presented to the public.","simplifiedExplanation":"A PR shop is basically the team that handles publicity for a car company. 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