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Audi A2
The Audi A2 is a small car that is designed to be very efficient and easy to drive around town. It has a unique look and is known for being practical, making it great for city life.
Car
Ford Mondeo
The Ford Mondeo is a car that's known for being comfortable and good for long drives. The 2013 version has a diesel engine that helps it save fuel.
Car
BMW M5
The BMW M5 is a fast and fancy car that looks like a regular sedan but can go really, really fast. It's known for being fun to drive and has a lot of cool features, making it popular among car enthusiasts.
Term
miles per gallon
Miles per gallon (MPG) tells you how far a car can go using one gallon of gas. The higher the number, the less gas the car uses for each mile.
Car
Audi TT
The Audi TT is a sporty little car that looks great and drives well. It's known for its unique shape and fun driving experience.
Car
Audi A3
The Audi A3 is a small luxury car that offers a comfortable ride and stylish design. It's popular for its quality and performance.
Part
V6 engine
A V6 engine has six cylinders that help the car produce power. It's known for being powerful while still being relatively fuel-efficient.
Car
Honda ENY1
The Honda ENY1 is a small electric SUV made by Honda. It's designed to be efficient and is good for driving in cities.
Term
miles per kilowatt hour
Miles per kilowatt hour tells you how far an electric car can go using one unit of electricity. It's a way to measure how efficient the car is with energy.
Term
total cost of ownership
Total cost of ownership is a way to look at how much it really costs to own a car, not just the price you pay to buy it, but also things like insurance and maintenance.
Term
PCP
PCP is a way to pay for a car where you make monthly payments for a few years and then have the choice to buy the car at the end or return it.
Term
MOT
MOT is a yearly check in the UK to make sure cars are safe to drive. If a car doesn't pass, it can't be used on the road until it's fixed.
Part
wheel bearing
A wheel bearing helps your car's wheels turn smoothly. If it breaks, it can make strange noises and make it hard to drive safely.
Brand
Volkswagen
Volkswagen is a car company from Germany that makes many popular cars, including the Golf and the Beetle.
Car
Volkswagen ID. Polo
The Volkswagen ID. Polo is a new electric car from Volkswagen that is small and designed to be very efficient and eco-friendly.
Car
Ford Explorer
Car
Ford Capri
The Ford Capri is a classic car that was designed to look sporty and fun to drive. It was popular in the past and is now considered a classic.
Car
Ford Mustang
The Mustang EV is Ford's electric version of their famous Mustang car, designed to be fast and environmentally friendly.
Car
Ford Fiesta
The Ford Fiesta ST is a small, fun car that is quick and easy to drive. It's a sporty version of a regular Fiesta, so it has a lot of energy and is great for people who want a fun ride without spending too much.
Car
Ford Focus
The Ford Focus is a compact car that is fun to drive and has a lot of space for passengers and cargo, making it a good choice for families or individuals.
Car
Ford Cougar
The Ford Cougar is a two-door car that looks sporty and is designed for people who want a fun driving experience.
Car
Ford Puma
The Ford Puma is a small SUV that is designed to be stylish and practical, making it a good choice for people who want a mix of both.
Car
Gm Sierras
The GMC Sierra is a big truck that can carry heavy loads and is great for work or towing things like trailers. It's known for being tough and reliable, making it a popular choice for people who need a strong vehicle.
Car
Ford Model Fords
The Ford Model T is one of the first cars that many people could actually afford, which changed how everyone got around. It was made a long time ago and is important because it helped start the car industry as we know it today.
Car
Alpine A290
The Alpine A290 is a small sports car that is built to be very light and fun to drive. It's designed for people who enjoy speed and want a car that feels exciting on the road.
Car
Renault Twingo
The Renault Twingo is a small car designed for city driving, known for being easy to park and fun to drive.
Car
Renault 5
The Renault 4 is a compact car made by Renault that was sold for over three decades. It was appreciated for being useful and affordable.
Car
Renault 4
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that has been around for a long time. It's known for its unique look and powerful performance, making it a favorite among car enthusiasts.
Car
Ferrari Portofino
The Ferrari Portofino is a fancy sports car that can be driven with the top down. It's fast and stylish, making it a popular choice among car enthusiasts.
Car
Ferrari Portofino Spider
The Portofino Spider is a fancy sports car from Ferrari that can turn into a convertible. It's fast and stylish, making it a popular choice among car enthusiasts.
Car
Jaguar Etype
The Jaguar E-Type 3.8 Roadster is a famous sports car from the 1960s. It's known for its beautiful looks and fast performance, making it a classic favorite among car enthusiasts.
Car
Peugeot 2027 Peugeot
The Peugeot 207 is a small car that has five doors, making it easy for people to get in and out. It's good for city driving and is known for being economical on gas.
Car
Peugeot 208
Car
Jeep Wrangler
The Jeep Wrangler is a tough-looking car that can drive over rocks and through mud easily. People love it for outdoor adventures because it's built to handle rough roads and has a fun, open-top option.
Car
Land Defenders
The Land Rover Defender is a strong car designed to go off the beaten path, like in the mountains or on rough trails. It's known for being very tough and can carry a lot of gear, making it great for adventures.
Car
Audi Allroad
The Audi Allroad is a fancy car that looks like a regular wagon but can handle rough roads better. It's comfortable and has extra features that make it a nice choice for people who want a mix of luxury and utility.
Car
Skoda Octavia
The Skoda Octavia is a roomy car that is good for families and everyday driving. It's known for being reliable and comfortable, making it a smart choice for people who need a practical vehicle.
Car
Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross
The Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross is a small SUV that looks sporty and is good for driving around town. It's designed to be comfortable and has a lot of features that make it easy to use.
Car
Mitsubishi Outlander
The Mitsubishi Outlander is a family-friendly SUV that has plenty of room for people and their stuff. It can also come as a hybrid, which means it can save on gas and is better for the environment.
Car
Alfa Romeo Sprint
The Alfa Romeo Sprint is a stylish little sports car that is fun to drive and looks really cool. It's loved by car fans for its design and the way it feels on the road.
Car
Cupra Born
The Cupra Born is a new electric car that looks sporty and is good for the environment. It's designed to be fun to drive while helping to reduce pollution.
Car
Opel Mokka
The Opel Mokka is a small SUV that is easy to drive in the city and has a stylish look. It's comfortable and has a lot of features that make it great for daily driving.
Car
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
The Porsche 911 GT3 RS is a super-fast sports car that is built for racing and driving really well on tracks. It's known for being lightweight and powerful, making it a dream car for many people who love speed.
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Steve Croppley over there. Hello, Steven.
Afternoon, mate. How are you?
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Tony Wood writes from Somerset to say that I've enjoyed the conversations about the economy of Matt's Audi A2
and a letter you read where a listener had turned into playing the economy game because the roads were so busy.
I've been doing this while I drive as I do 25,000 marseillais mostly in my reasonably quiet motorway commute.
For the past eight years, my companion has been a 2013 2-liter diesel Ford Mondeo, more on Ford in a bit, listener.
The trip computer is a bit optimistic, but the best I've seen for my 38-mile M5 drive home has been 72 miles to the gallon.
That's pretty good for a 2-liter Mondeo, isn't it?
Yeah, a big-ish car.
Yeah.
Travelling at the speed of lorries, but not slipstreaming.
And I've dragged a tank full of diesel to almost 900 miles twice, which I calculate to 62 miles to the gallon.
Excellent.
Really good.
Thank you, Tony.
Regards from another motorcyclist, says Tony Wood in Somerset.
Tom Power also writes to say, 20-something years ago, it's nice to be reminded of the Audi A2's strengths via Matt's updates.
Tom had one as a company car, his first company car when he started selling cars in 2001.
Oh, really?
He said, not the coolest car, but he graduated to an Audi A3 and then a TT with a V6 engine.
They were good.
I think it's of the A2's and Christian cool myself.
I think it's probably a cooler car than it was.
Given I'm now a 50-year-old man, I'm not sure I'm the person to be deciding what's cool or not.
But I think you contributed to the cool.
I was thinking about writing a column about cool cars once.
I remember the very good journalist and very nice man, Russell Budgin, wrote about cool cars once.
And I was probably in my mid-20s, so I might have had a vague idea of what was cool and what was not at the time.
But I never wrote about it.
And then I started thinking about writing about it the other day.
And I thought, I'm not sure I'm the bloke to write about what cars are cool or not anymore.
I think that time may have passed.
Well, people tell you, they don't they?
Yeah, I think so.
That's helpful.
I wonder if the phrase cool is slightly changed in meaning.
Possibly.
In the past quarter of a century, too.
Yeah.
Really.
Anyway, Tom says...
It's a very useful word.
I use it a lot.
Too much, probably.
But anyway, Tom says, taking the average cost of diesel at £1.42 against the 72 miles to the gallon,
which is kind of what I get typically out of the A2, that calculates to 8.8 pence per mile.
Tom says his Honda ENY1, which is an electric compact crossover type thing, SUV crossover type thing,
has done 13,000 miles at an average of 2.7 miles per kilowatt hour.
While that is disappointing efficiency compared to his expectations,
the overall cost has been 2.7 pence per mile.
All charging has been done overnight on a low tariff costing £337, except for one charge, a publicly of £15.
My analysis gets more interesting, or dull, says Tom.
That's interesting to us, Tom.
You're with friends here.
If we consider complete cost of ownership,
I bought the Honda on a 25 month PCP for £207 a month with the total cost of £5,500 for 8,000 miles a year.
I'll return the car to Honda at the end of it.
Now the maths equates to £35.8 per litre,
totaling everything with two years insurance and everything else is a further £980,
so the cost per mile is £41 pence per mile, which is not bad going, is it?
No, not.
Not bad going.
But...
Cost of the car, Jack.
But as a result of that, I did a small set of numbers myself, bearing in mind...
On the A2?
On the A2.
Bearing in mind I paid £500 for it because it had no MOT.
It has needed a wheel bearing and a new fan motor at a combined cost of £65 for the two.
It has required, I think, about £1100 worth of fuel,
and I've insured it for £200 and taxes £35 and blah blah blah.
Anyway, I worked out that roughly if I sold it at some point in the past couple of months
for, I think, about the £2,000 that an A2 goes for,
my mileage cost per mile would have been nothing.
Or I might have been paid perhaps a penny a mile to drive it.
However, I'm not going to sell it.
I'm going to keep it.
So that's that.
Well, even in five years time, the figures will still be good.
They should still be all right, shouldn't they?
Yeah.
I love the idea that if you have the space and you have the time and you get lucky,
you could buy a car, drive it for a bit, sell it.
And it's cost you nothing.
I mean, imagine what the train into and out of London would have cost.
Oh, indeed.
In the past.
Also, just the enjoyment of it.
It's such a sweet car.
I just parked next to it, auto machine.
Yeah.
What have you come over?
You're in the five.
The Renault, yeah.
The Renault five.
The Renault column.
Because Steve and I will be doing that over the next, I don't know,
45, 50 minutes to an hour, whatever.
It will be the three of us.
Oh, yes, the three of us.
We are joined today.
You can't see, but I'll grab a picture to put on the socials.
We're joined by my cat in the middle of the table.
The ginger and white.
Who likes you very much, Steve?
He heard your voice and he came toodling down.
He woke up from his snooze to come down into a cold part of the house.
Well, he is a cat.
A beauty.
He is a friendly friend.
I mean, I did have a friend once who said, I don't like seeing all of
your pictures of your cats and dogs on social media.
Just stop it.
It's ridiculous.
Exception, Matt prize cat.
Is that Mitch?
Yeah.
What's happening with Ford in Europe?
Well, I was reading the various pieces that are being written
about the new, the challenges that face the new boss of Ford.
Who is an engineer by trade.
So he's not even, didn't begin life as a business man.
But when you look at the things he's got to do,
he has to somehow sell the existing EVs for a profit,
then now make it currently making a loss by Ford's own admission.
He's got to deal with the fact that the focus went out of
production yesterday or today.
And there's a hell of a large group of people that you're going
to be redundant.
He has to find a new set of, you know,
some more Ford like cars to sell, you know,
in the European market and various other challenges.
And it just seems like a big one to me.
The one thing I like is that there's a suggestion in the air
that what they might do is extend the deal they do at the moment
with VW to use.
VW underbits for a fiesta.
You know, there's this new thing called the Polo ID Polo.
Yes.
And that could make a fiesta.
Oh, interesting.
They might get a bit of punishment.
Electric only fiesta.
Yeah.
They might get a bit of punishment for it being a VW underneath.
I think the Explorer and the Capri are different enough to seem
like Fords anyway.
So I quite welcome the idea.
They just think they need a fiesta.
The life for Ford without a fiesta is just barmy.
It's really unthinkable, isn't it?
Yeah.
So the Capri and the Explorer are on a Volkswagen platform.
Yeah, they're both ID Fords.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
But I took a bit of a trip through the Midlands and here and there
the other day and seemed very Ford like to me.
So I mean, I suppose if you're a purist, you don't accept that,
but it seemed like a Ford and I was glad to be in a Ford
and it was a good trip.
We went to the place where Henry set up Ford.
Ford was the first non-American outpost of...
Sorry, Manchester was the first non-American outpost of Ford
in something like 1909 or something.
Pretty early.
Oh, early days.
And made Model T's there and all that.
You interviewed Bill Ford, didn't you, at the Goodwood Festival Speed?
Yeah, a little while ago.
And I remember the phrase he used then was all the wording
he used, more robust.
Yes.
Talking about the European product.
Yeah.
He didn't hide from the fact that they weren't doing as well
as they should do.
Yeah.
And it's not...
Is there an acceptance that they're not going to do any better
than they are at the moment with the cars they've got
at the moment?
They need new and better products to do that.
Yeah.
They need to replace the Cougar and Apuma pretty soon
because they're both well along in their lives.
And the existing EVs aren't really good enough
because the Mustang EV is a...
Sorry, the Mackie is an interesting thing to have done
but it's not a seller.
A bit funny on our roads anyway, I think.
So it's all to do.
It's all to do.
Replace the SUVs, cope with the fact that there's no focus.
Find a new Fiesta.
Cut the costs of the EVs that they're selling in the meantime.
Really hard.
Yeah.
And I just think that when people...
We say this a bit.
People...
I say this a bit.
People don't think necessarily about brands
but they do have memories and they do have awareness.
Yeah.
And they know what a Ford, Fiesta, Focus,
Mondeo, Cougar, probably Puma even is.
But do they really know and understand
what an Explorer or a Capri is anymore?
No, I think not.
And I don't...
I have to rake around the head
to sort of remember the names.
Yeah.
Whereas, you know, in the olden days when we all talked
about Sierras and things, we just...
Yeah.
And I sort of think, well,
contrarially, there are manufacturers who have arrived
and who are selling a lot of cars
and people don't know anything about them.
Yet they're selling a lot of cars.
Yeah.
But I suppose they're just doing that
because they're really cheap
and Ford can't make cars at those kinds of prices.
Yeah.
I think that's very much the case.
I was just on the way over here.
I kept on clocking the number of J-Cousins and motors.
Yeah.
And you wonder where...
I found myself wondering how the people got on term,
got to know about the cars.
Yeah.
Because there's been some press advertising lately,
but it isn't...
It's not been prevalent, has it?
No.
You know, it's just...
It's all about price.
I think it is.
Yeah.
I suppose because this is a bit of a business
fleet country, you know,
the fleet manager knows and that's enough.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Lots of people must run them as a company.
Yes, and there must be other just private buyers
who just go and lease something
and just think, what is there?
Yeah.
And they go online somewhere
and it says we can have one of these
for £200 a month.
And you go,
Well, that's quite big.
Looks all right.
It's got a space inside.
Looks a bit like an evoke from the back.
Yeah.
And it does.
Where do I sign now?
They do.
Have you seen on the back of these J-Cousins,
they've got these weird number plate holders
that have little...
They seem to have like five,
four or five tabs along the top and bottom.
Yeah.
Holding the number plate in place
and it just looks a bit naff.
It just doesn't look very...
It doesn't look very good to me.
So that's a clip.
Is it those things?
I was wondering what they were.
I was wondering what they were.
But I just see them
and I just think that doesn't look that nice.
No.
And I don't know why there is.
And some...
Mind you, I see a few Teslas
which don't quite seem to have
the back number plate straight.
No.
And I don't know what it is about.
Well, a lot of them use double-sided,
powerful double-sided tape just to hold them.
Oh, really?
And I've had a few over the years,
one or two number plates fall off
because it's just this double-sided tape.
So I suppose these Chinese marks
are being a bit more thorough than that,
but unfortunately it's not pretty.
No.
Not the best-looking thing in the world.
We could do with the Fiesta, couldn't we?
Oh, need a Fiesta.
I mean, just seeing a row of healthy ones
in a used card joint, you know,
it gives me a little frizzle somehow.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Crazy, isn't it?
Shall we talk what happens to model cars?
You must have some model fords in your collection.
Well, I do, but yeah,
but the thing that has happened
is the steering committee has issued
an edict to the effect
that the dining room in our house,
which has been photographed once or twice,
and is, as you know,
pretty chock-a-block with my junk
because I colonized it after during lockdown.
She has issued an edict
that the household requires
to have the dining room back.
I mean, I did think
it would make a nice dining room.
This room would be nice as a dining room.
Great as it is as a podcast studio
and study and office.
It would make a good dining room.
It would indeed make a good dining room.
And it did, used to.
And so there's, you know,
there's models and stuff everywhere.
And I suddenly felt the thinking,
what on earth am I going to do with all this stuff?
And I think we need,
somehow we need a happy home
for discarded models.
I couldn't imagine throwing the stuff
that I've got away,
but I don't particularly want to,
you know, bundle it all up
and sell it on eBay either.
No.
I'd like to, you know,
find a,
what we need is a model bank somewhere.
I don't know.
Anyway, just a random thought.
So is there nowhere that you could have them
elsewhere in your, in your home?
Probably, but.
About some like,
cabinets in the garage
or something like that display cabinets in the garage.
Yeah, maybe.
It's difficult, isn't it?
Because you...
The garage is already full of junk too.
Yeah.
It's a problem.
It's a problem.
Also, Mike,
a personal query on this,
what's going to happen to the My Week in Cars podcast studio
when it comes to your house?
Will we still be able to use
the dining room?
I think we'll be permitted to use the dining room table.
We'll be allowed in briefly.
Will the acoustics remain
as dead and as good as they are?
I think so.
Because there's a lot of stuff around
that would absorb a lot of motoring books
and things like that,
which can absorb sound.
I think there will be some shelves
that provide acoustic.
OK.
And there's some curtains in there
that do a reasonable job too.
I don't know if it's my age.
I don't think it is
because I've asked other people about this.
And I don't know if it's the tendency
for pubs and restaurants
to just have more and more shiny surfaces.
But it's just...
I just want more carpets and curtains
so that when I go to a pub or restaurant
I can hear people.
Yeah.
Because I just find the din
more and more
and infuriating.
No, it's true.
I just start becoming a grumpy old...
grumpy old git or whether I'm just...
or whether it's a thing.
But when I go to the local near here
they've got carpets and curtains
and some soft furnishings
and it's fine.
But I went out the other day
to a place in London
with hard surfaces everywhere
and it was just like...
I can't hear the bloke
three feet away from me.
Yeah, hard floors seem to do it.
Yeah, they do.
They're wooden floors.
Yeah.
Anyway, sorry, listener.
That is petty gripe of the day.
I wonder if a listener can hear
Midge purring because he's...
Well, it's funny.
There's a bit of a purr, isn't there?
There is, but it's funny.
We did that drive in the A290
out in the other week.
Yeah.
And I've had emails from people going
couldn't even tell you were in a car
until quite late on
when we got onto the concrete motorway section.
Yeah.
There was the old click
wasn't there from, I think,
some people heard a click
from the turn indicator
when we were changing lanes and things.
Yeah.
It's got a bit of a clippity-clop sound,
doesn't it, think?
Yeah.
Renault?
Indeed, yeah.
Renault seem to have done something
that other manufacturers have not quite,
which is pull on the old part strings
of memories of cars
that people know and love
in a way that other European manufacturers
have not done yet.
Yeah.
Yeah, they've been quite...
Were you writing about that this week
or have I just read it somewhere else
on the website today?
We were in a conversation about it.
I'm trying to think...
Was it in the office?
Somebody else was holding forward about that.
Yeah, maybe.
I seem to have read it.
Maybe...
Oh, I think I've read it on our website,
Autocard.co.uk, listener,
this morning about Stellantis.
Yeah.
And it's doing something.
It means...
Stellantis wants to do something
because it is aware...
Oh, yes, it's because we're going
to come onto a thing
that you've driven in a minute.
Yeah.
You've driven a partial...
Yeah, that's it.
Well, nearly did, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
It's...
And I think it's interesting
to clock the reaction
because some people admire them
for doing it.
Other people say it lacks...
What would the word be?
Bravery or whatever,
they're just doing what they did.
But I think the level at which
it's been done with the Twingo,
the Renault 4 and the Renault 5
is very impressive.
Yeah.
And they're modern cars to me.
Yeah, they've...
Why aren't they modern?
Yeah, and I think if you...
If they've been making a Renault 5
since they stopped making the Renault 5,
it may just look like that.
And that's the...
What else was I thinking that of?
In that it is...
It does look like a 5,
so I suppose is it retro from that point of view
or would they argue that it isn't?
They just argue that,
well actually, if you just continued the lineage
like a Porsche 911,
that's what it would now look like.
I think that's what Laurence Van den Akker's feeling is,
that it's the car that would now
be around if the Renault 5 had continued.
And I reckon he's pretty much right too.
Renault 4, I don't see
old Renault 4 in the new Renault 4
so much, excuse me so much,
but even that little rear window
is quite evocative.
I haven't driven a 4, I should do.
I haven't driven a...
Yes, there's a few new cars I haven't driven.
I think you can make it pretty accurate.
What you're expecting is what you'll get.
It's what I will get.
I think, listen, we're going to take a short commercial break.
This part is going to be a bit shorter than the recent ones
because I haven't written my column yet.
Well, I say that,
but we'll probably just start
rabbiting on in the second half.
I think there's a few things to talk about.
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Brian Morris writes to us
autocartathaymarket.com
and you can too. Do you remember, Steve,
that Martin
Morris wrote to us a couple of weeks ago
about
his Ferrari Portofino
and the
slight mick-taking he'd had from his family
and friends about it because they decided
that he was an old man
and driving a Ferrari.
Apparently not.
Brian Morris says,
life is not a rehearsal and all the other platitudes
to cover this are all well and good, but Martin,
please obey your own conscience and stick with it
and enjoy the car well you can. Best wishes
from an 80-plus-year-old who hasn't quite
aspired to your lofty heights, but does enjoy
his Audi S5 TF5 Coupe
with gusto.
More,
Alexander says, thoroughly enjoyed the letter from Martin Morris.
Only 75, I am too young
to meaningfully comment, but I will anyway
and say good on you. Ignore the disgust and the disdain
from others. Shame on them. There have always been
miserable people telling you what you can and can't do.
I've always liked, this is
Alexander's. This is a point of yours.
You don't like people
being told what to do.
I hate people telling people what to do.
Just a bunch of your own business.
I've heard you say it a few times.
Who does like being told what to do?
Well, no one.
And I mean, Blokes earned it. Why shouldn't he have it?
Why shouldn't he have it? Yeah.
And also depending, there are ways of telling people
what to do and why not today.
But anyway,
I've always liked good cars and would love a
Portofino Spider, but even if I could
get into it, my wife thinks I wouldn't be able to
get out again, says Alec.
As it is, the sight of me
getting out of my Mercedes E400D
Carriolet, Rexony Street cred
I ever had. I did own a 1964
Jaguar E-Type 3.8 Roadster
when I first met my wife in 1973
and you could pick up E-Types for a song
then. Marta's letter was the highlight
of the week's magazine for me. Thanks, Alec Sanders.
Thank you, Alec Sanders. Yeah, well done.
Good letter and quite right to. Yeah.
Every word with you totally on every word for that.
Tell me about this Peugeot
Polygon concept.
Yeah, Polygon though.
I think Peugeot
or Stellantis I guess
are pretty conscious of the
just what you talked about earlier, the fact that
Renault have done well
recently with
progressive little cars and they
see the need to
do something better with the
208 which is their own
Supermini.
So they've shown this car which
made it pretty clear to us that
many of the
styling elements will go into the
2027 Peugeot 208
but they've taken
at the same time
shown us
something called Hypersquare
which is a new steering
wheel
that is the
sort of
outwardly visible
emblem of a BYY steering
system.
And I went to look at the
concept, didn't get to drive it
because there was a deluge in Lisbon
where we were and they just weren't
prepared to take it outside.
So it's a different type with this
Hypersquare wheel
which does a lot of things
including
improve the structure and the
crashworthiness of the
front end because obviously there
isn't a great big steel shaft
and it also
allows
very widely variable
steering ratio so
when you're doing
3, 5, 7 miles an hour
the steering is very tall indeed
so when you're maneuvering between other cars
you don't have to move your
hands on the wheel at all if it is a wheel
it's actually a rectangular thing
but you can see it in our pictures
but
when you do a reverse park
for instance
you just move your
hands sort of 90 degrees
each way and you've done it
it's amazingly good
so
this is coming, this is apparently
going to be offered in the very 208
we're talking about
and I think it's going to be a bit of a good thing
they let us
drive it but not at speed
so the thing that I would
I've always been concerned about
where steering feel and steering accuracy
you concern
when you're in a sort of 70 mile an hour
sweeping bend and there's
very little lock required
but you want to sort of feel
the cornering force and put the
steering loads all the way
as you go faster you want it to load up a little bit
don't you?
and I'm not sure that it does that
so that's yet to be found out
but they've got a year of tuning ahead
and they know the problem
so it will be very interesting to see what they do
good
I thought it was bold though because
Renault
Peugeot have already
got into that i-cop it thing
the low wheel
and so on
they quite often say
it's very successful we've sold 7 million cars with i-cop
but that doesn't necessarily
mean 7 million people who love it
I always think
the figure was 13
and also they said
the thing they did point out
is that 308
Peugeot
repeat business is 73%
and they say that that
must mean that
various people have had i-cop it
cars before and approved them
it's not a bad point
i-cop it is a small
low slung steering wheel with a
kind of half
it's got a flat top on bottom
isn't it? yes
and you look over the top of the wheel
to the instruments rather than through the middle of the wheel
that's the thing
I didn't get on with it
first iteration which was a 208
but I did get on with it in a 308
maybe it's
something that suits the fuller figure
I think they've made it better
since introducing it
they say so
what do they say is the benefit of it
well that
they also say that it's
small wheel
so agility
they can and those cars
also have fairly tall
quick gearing but not as quick
as this new system
and they also
just talk about visibility
they reckon you can see the instruments better
but I think it's
a way of doing something different
and I guess the idea with this new wheel
is you don't have to take your hands off of
not at all
in fact it feels funny when you do
because the other one
there's a sort of imbalance
it feels natural to grab
with both hands
and also in the little
port holes there are four port holes in this
rectangular thing that you grab
and there's switch gear
inside the holes
so your thumb's there already
and it can just move and turn something
on or off
it isn't bad
I found myself thinking that
they'd
done a good thing and they'd also
done something that no one else
has done
especially at the low end
low price
so
it's still to improve itself
but we'll see
I
use a wheel
that shape on a playstation
but I think
I never have to move my hands off of
quarter to three
doing that
and also I'm fully focused on driving
that would be all I was doing
and I sort of think in a car
I'd wait to see what I think of this
for real
but there is a reason
round one's
work because you can
and you'll see people do it
resting their arm on top of the wheel or just holding it by the bottom
there's something about
when it turns
and if it doesn't have to turn any more
than 90 or 180 degrees
maybe it is different
what frustrates me about
cars that don't have round
steering wheels and it happens in sports cars quite a lot
the sort of flat bottomed bit
is that you go to grab it and it's not where you thought it was
and it just then puts
a
load onto your
what do they call it
your different bits of mental capacity
and you're trying to do several things at once
if you can just take something out of something
so somebody doesn't have to think about it
they just do it
yeah, that's what I find
it's worse on say
it's probably worse on a racetrack
if anything and the car starts to move around
and you think oh I'll just grab the wheel there
and you think the wheel's not there so now I have to think about
where the steering wheel is
whereas actually I would just have held it
without thought
if it was just the shape
would normally be
I just think ergonomically it's answering a question
that nobody
I don't see why it has to be changed
I get it in a racing car because you need
visibility over the top
because you've probably got the wheel quite close to you
and that gets in your view
and it might get in the aerodynamic stream
and then also you want it flat at the bottom because it clears your body
but in a car
a family sized car
you don't have those constraints
as a rule
but I haven't tried it
so I'll wait to see
it'll be interesting to see what you think
if you don't like it you don't have to have it
so what's the plan that you can have a steer by wire
it'll be an option I believe
and then
in all but the poverty models
interesting
and it's obviously
I started talking about post office
spec to the French guys
they looked
confused
what's the other phrase that we use
a cooking model
poverty model and cooking model
better I think about
the cooking model
what is the cooking model anyway
it's a bit like the cooking
apple isn't it
it's the cheap one
not the quality one
is Audi
making a Landrave
well that's the plan
and
because I'm
skeptical of
some of the
Audi design of the past
I found myself
of the recent past
I don't like those potato shaped big SUVs
I agree you get into trouble
with the owners who are very happy with them
oh yeah but lots of people like them
I've
got not exactly a stand up
but I've been sort of pinned against the wall
by people defending the Q5
for sure
but
it suddenly crossed my mind
that I was wandering around some car park
and I encountered this
lovely short
68 plate or something
short wheelbase
Jeep Wrangler
I know I've rattled on too long
about Wranglers but this was white
perfect so
it just looked lovely
and I suddenly made me think
there's other ways of doing SUVs
4x4s than
defenders
you know
and also the other thing that came to me
at exactly the same point was it
Massimo Fumarola
no not Fumarola
Massimo
the boss of
Massimo Fumarola
was the guy from Morgan
I do
oh dear
Frascala
yeah
I just looked at that at exactly the same time
as it came to you
his wife was a designer as well
and I thought of her
so the name came to me
but the thing is
he's now the boss of Audi Design
and he's already produced that
rather wonderful concept car
that everybody admires
is it not the new TT?
well they say not
we say it is
interesting to see who's right
I mean they've made it
so it would imply that
they must have a rough idea wasn't it
but it looks pretty TT-ish
not in that it looks like a TT
but it's got a TT
proportionally it looks like a TT
I reckon
I tell you what's interesting about that car
if you look at the front of it
the frontal features are very similar
well not similar but they
they steal
a bunch of the Jaguar
Concept 00
interesting
those verticals and the hidden headlights
suddenly that car
the Jaguar looked
completely modern
and sort of extraordinary
but two things have happened
Audi have come out with a car
that is about to hit production
and looks like it
and Bentley in mean time have produced
a concept car
but they did a bit of stuff
about the future of the saloon
and the side profile of their car
looks like Concept 00
on the side so suddenly
the things that were
new about the Jag when we saw it a year ago
whenever it was
aren't quite so new and it all
it all moves on so fast
I was very happy
when we spoke to Ian Callum the other week
and I gave him a quote
that another designer had told us
that design should be challenging
and he sort of thought about it
and as he talked about it more
he became more and more
vocal in his disagreement
with the thing and in the end he said
no actually I pour that
of course it doesn't have to be challenging
because if it's challenging and ugly
I think the idea was if it's not
challenging you'll get bored by it
with that designer's thinking
he said but if it's ugly
you might still get bored with it
but now you're bored by something ugly
he is a lover of beauty
isn't he?
there was a time when Jag was
straplined and it was only a brief amount of time
I think
it was around about when the
F was either the F type or the XE
or something like came out
and I remember sitting down in a press conference
and they do the videos as they do
of showing the thing and it said
Jaguar fast beautiful cars
but what more could you
how better would you want to sum up that
for me?
what do you make fast beautiful cars?
what was wrong with that?
maybe there was just some
probably some people in the agency
needed to justify
another large bill and said they moved on
but anyway not the TT
is the TT and
oh yes so now they're making not a Land Rover
yeah and I
I think
Massimo is just the bloke to do it
because he was around for the defender after all
so he knows
he was Jerry's
well I think he was the boss
of Land Rover Design and Jerry was something
further upstairs do you remember
so
I think he knows all about it myself
yeah
what's
what's
sorry I'm just slightly distracted
by the cat moving around
and sitting down to give himself a lick
when do we know when will we see
this car because beyond your column
I don't know that they're making a Land Rover
what are they?
I think it's just something in the wind
it would be several years away
and it's supposed to be something
more properly off-roading than their
defenderish
not your defender
not quite as good
as that but
something that does the
does the job of the existing defender
the new defender
so a sort of
pretty expensive I guess
I don't think
it's not worth getting out of bed for them unless it's expensive
no that's true
because they're the earners aren't they
or they have been intrigued by that
because who's
buying one of those
people who tow stuff I suppose
yeah
I think the Audi
image can extend far enough
to be a
you know a bit of a tough car
I remember the all-road
a very popular car
I really like those
and terrific the originals
have still got very good
residuals I believe
I really like those
Octavia Scouts
and sort of cross country Volvo's
I just think they're just about
right you know what I mean
they would deal with potholes
and gravel car parks
they're a little bit lifted aren't they
so you don't scuff it
the Volvo's I like
the bigger Volvo
cross country Volvo
yeah I was a big fan of those
yeah I'm just looking at a picture of that
Audi from the side now
it does look like
if they were going to sell another TT
that's what it would look like
a strong case surely
for a car like that
because the TT was a success
I think somebody asked
at that motor show it was
revealed or just after
didn't somebody ask Gordon
Wagner of Mercedes what he thought
and he said he thought the interior
looked dated
like it came from the 90s or something like that
to which everybody went yeah
that's much better
why are you saying that's a bad thing mate
because that seems to be
yes no there aren't massive screens
everywhere that's all right
do you remember that car when we did the
that 90s
collection of cars on the air
field a while ago
and we had a original TT
and what a joy the interior was
must have cost them a fortune in that interior
remember you went on about the
the switch gear
you push them and they pop out of the dash
and then you turn them and as you turn them
lights come on
extra lights come on to show you how many
how hot your heated seat is
and that's just joyful
but those switches
must cost
a fortune
and his
period of putting more money
into the cars than they actually justified
but the company was making money at that point
it must have been, wasn't it
were there just fewer headwinds back then
sorry that's a terrible
non-businessy
a few headwinds
was selling cars in Europe
more profitable than it is today
well for a start
they didn't have this
onrushed Chinese cars to worry about
and therefore the pressure on prices
so yeah I think it was easier
and
Audi was doing well
and they could afford it
it was good
I do Skoda still makes 8.5% profits
yeah isn't that interesting
I read that a few hours the other day
good luck to them
you've just been there
I've just been, yes I said how do you do it
and he said well one we make cars in the Czech Republic
which is
cheaper than making them elsewhere
and
there's a bit less legislative
stuff to have to go through
but also I think they're just
I don't know
they kind of
dropped the latest tech a little bit further down the line
do they then
maybe they spend a bit less on R&D
than some of the group
companies
there must be a lot of stuff that's already proven
that comes to them
and I suppose they get
I don't know how these things work mate
it always strikes me that it all just comes out the same pot
you're all part of the same big company
so to say
well we make money because
actually we make 1.1L to 1.6L petrol engines
for the group and then we get paid for that
you think yeah but
you're paying
the same household as paying itself
so I don't quite
isn't there
a part of
certainly in the Piesz days
when he liked to set them
against one another so that they would all
be more competitive and the VW
blokes were determined to do better than Audi
and all that sort of thing
I mean it's alright
if it's a fair fight
but if you think well actually
they're getting our technology which we had to spend loads of money on
three years ago
and they didn't
I don't know if you might
yeah you would
I suppose
this is a
store of excuses
I see today
you haven't written about this, Mitsubishi might be coming back to Europe
the UK in fact
not Europe
it'll be
interesting one for the town
the market town that's closest to where I live
is Sirenchester and it used to be that
Mitsubishi was a big employer
and a big noise
in the town and now it's gone completely
so
it'll be a sort of funny
Mitsubishi for us
there are Renault's aren't there
I can remember Luca De Mayo the departed
boss of
Renault saying that he was
to
do whatever he could to make
facilitate a cooperation
with Mitsubishi
and
this may be
the offshoot of something that he
was involved in
was it
is it still part of the
I think there's still a relationship
because it was the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance
but I didn't know if it's still what or not
well you know there's
now saying because there's a change
of people at the top of these
various companies they're now talking about
reviving the
Renault-Nissan
and there is still
that car
the micro which is
recognizably a version of the Renault-5
I mean it's probably
hurtful to the designers
and offensive to the people who
run Nissan but
you can see that just in the
you know the window shapes
and the angles of this and that
you can see the relationship between the Renault-5
and the micro
what Mitsubishi's do you want
in the UK?
I haven't got a clue oh well I suppose
I'll tell you what I would love
do you remember that dopey little
car
called the Dangan
which
it was a K car
with a 600 cc
I think it was
600 cc supercharged and or turbocharged engine
right
and it produced from 600 cc
it produced about 60 horsepower, 70 horsepower
something like that
rev to 12.5 or something
and Mitsubishi had
one or two of them in this country
and we used to queue up to borrow them
and borrow it for a few days
and just paste it up and down the place
and then give it back
so I am now looking at the Mitsubishi Dangan
Dangan ZZ something like that
that's how I see it
yes the 15 valve 3 cylinder
548 cc
that looks
oh my goodness it really crams it in under the bonnet as well
when you look under there there's a little intercooler
and everything is crammed
it's tiny
it was a bit of a joke
it wasn't a relative
of the
because it looks a bit
maybe it doesn't look that similar
I just wonder if a later one was a relative
of the Daihatsu Kure
although Daihatsu had a relationship with Toyota
I think they did didn't they
maybe they still do in fact
but the other Mitsubishi's of course would be
you'd like to see
you know
gallant
sort of wacko gallant
that would be something for me
how are they going to make
how are they going to make
money out of bringing cars back to the UK
in the current car market
what's going to sell
because it's a big investment
isn't it to revive dealerships
I know they've got some outlets
because they're still selling parts
in this case
I think I saw in that
story that there was something like 20
service dealers around the country
and I suppose if
they set them to selling a few cars each
it would be
good business but
it didn't sound
it sounded like another one of those
sort of slightly fag in businesses that
you don't really
understand what holds them up like a Zuzu
yeah it's going to be brought
back in under the
stewardship of international motors
which currently oversees UK sales
of GWM great war motors
Zuzu, Subaru and X-Peng
yeah
so they sort of sweep up
the sort of any other business
type cars don't they
likely candidates according to our story include
the Eclipse Cross which is effectively a restart
Renault Scenic
the Outlander Plug-In Hybrid
which actually previously did really
really well because
Plug-In Hybrid company car tax
really suited them
and they were one of the few PHEVs
on the market at the time
they suddenly had a massive boost in PHEV sales
Outlander sales
that's it of course it did
Frank Kroll
President and CEO of Mitsubishi Europe said
our upcoming models represent the very best of
Mitsubishi Motors core technologies in performance
four-wheel drive and much more
four-wheel drive could be a place where they
remember they did the Shogun
they did a whole load of Shoguns and they were
they were much loved for a decade or two
actually weren't they
there was a great big
diesel three-litre
diesel with a slusher on the
automatic and
pretty good tow car I believe
in fact I used one to tow
a caravan one time
really your caravan did
no mate
it was a caravan called
a car light and it was a kind of
Rolls Royce of caravans
and we took it to a sprint one somewhere
in Somerset
steering committee driving our Lotus of these
and me with the
this Shogun and caravan on the back
and we arrived
typically late in the
camping site and I had
less than no idea how to set this thing up
but there were
loads of old blokes that
go to these events and you know
the events on the weekend and they arrived by Tuesday
the previous
pinch all the good sites
and I arrived and just walked
off to these fellas all sitting in deck chairs
under the trees and said
couldn't give us a hand to set this thing up
and old men came from
every point of the compass with
spirit levels and chocks and
delighted to show how useful they could be
and 20 minutes the thing was
set up as though it was born there
so you're not a big caravan
holiday bloke
I'm not
are you?
we used to when I was a kid we did
we haven't done it since
I sort of see the appeal
because the times that
we did do it we pitched up
we usually went for
these farmers fields where there's
only six or eight other
campers and there's lovely
space and breeze
and vistas
so I'm not knocking at it
I borrowed a motorhome a few times
and I would
do it and I've talked about
maybe getting a
camper or a motorhome or something
or
I think if the Defender was a 110
I'd more likely make it
a
camper-ish kind of vehicle
just too short really a 90
I did have to
sleep the night in one outside
York Hospital once for a very boring
story but it was not
the world's most comfortable night I've ever had
let's put it that way
somebody else was inside having a worse time than me
so that was fun
I'm not going to complain
but yeah I just think a 110
you could set it up
with a bit more room to stretch out
actually the old MOD Land Rover
ambulances
make quite
cool
smallish campers
there was one at Bista Heritage
on show one of the few scrambles
ago and it had a motorbike in the back of it
and then I thought well that's ideal
because you can set up camp but you don't have to de-camp
when you want to go to the
local town
you can ride off and then come back
at the end of the day and you've still got your base
set up
I think the answer is to swerve the
the ablutions
the things that start having
a bathroom
and a bog on board
that just seems to me to be
rather grim
I'd rather
they do make the process as ungrim as
possible these days with cassettes and things like that
but there is certainly
an element of dealing
with things
but yeah
this is when the word hotel
comes in front and centre
Ove's interview, loud and clear
well from thinking this wasn't going to be a very long pot
we are 53 minutes in
so I suppose we'd better sort of
start wrapping it up
again
even the cat's had enough
listen thanks for staying with us
for so long
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but it's like an addition that Mantai
which is a German based, was a tuner
got bought by Porsche and now they do official
track focused
stuff. And you've driven this? No mate Richard Lane
unsurprisingly
well he is an expert
I didn't hear
anything about it except just
a little text from our videographer going
I'm filming some GT3
RS tomorrow and I said who's that with
knowing what the answer would be
oh it's with Richard
so yeah that's
the plan is that that is live
tonight
as this podcast is released so
about 5pm
on the 26th
and then only one more week until
the first
of the Christmas
double issues the two Christmas double issues
not doubles for us
no for this pod
yeah we're just going to do them all
yeah we'll just carry on all the way through
Christmas and the new year
I'd be lonely I wouldn't know how to handle it
if I didn't do a pod
we do need to
have a couple of diary sessions I think
because we already hope
we've got a special guest lined up for our
whichever issue is
one of the Christmas issues
which would be really interesting
I think but also I've got a couple of jobs
coming up which we need to
filling around
but we'll do that
but meantime listener you don't need to worry about that
we'll just be here every week on
your channel
no auto car meets weekend episodes
imminent but there will be again
soon at some point
we'll do some interviews talk to some
industry people and we'll be
back with those
meantime thanks very much see you soon
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