{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"Stellantis & You losses, job cuts at Bentley and Close Brothers, and all the latest from Car Dealer Live – with Ian Plummer, episode 249","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/stellantis-you-losses-job-cuts-at-bentley-and-close-brothers-and-all-the-latest-from-car-dealer-live-with-ian-plummer-episode-249","audioUrl":"https://anchor.fm/s/45e120cc/podcast/play/117296189/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-2-22%2F9da73552-28ca-68d2-036b-2bdd15b4fc1f.m4a","description":"Motor finance scandal and £85m of cost savings forces Close Brothers to cut 600 jobsStellantis injects £35m into its dealer group after a staggering £47.9m loss in 2024Bentley announces plans to cull hundreds of UK jobs as carmaker sees profits slumpLack of EV confidence is ‘a problem that we can’t seem to solve’ – Electrifying founder\n"},"annotations":[{"startTime":0.9,"endTime":51.7,"type":"company","title":"Autotrader","url":"/glossary/auto-trader","quote":"The Cardiola podcast is sponsored by Autotrader. 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The speaker is saying Tesla was once the biggest example of a “new entrant” that grew quickly, but they’re not counting it the same way now."}},{"startTime":833.9,"endTime":873.4,"type":"term","title":"AI","quote":"And I had a couple of chats with with George Manning the night before from from Hilton and some of the stuff that they're doing with AI was amazing. ... He had this sort of had this message system like he could text it basically an AI system and said how many cars we sold today.","canonicalId":"term:ai","priority":0.9,"confidence":0.95,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"In this segment, AI is being used as a dealer tool to automate information requests and responses. Instead of manually pulling data, the system can query the dealer’s records and return answers quickly to a phone or messaging app.","simplifiedExplanation":"They’re talking about using “AI” software to do tasks automatically. Here, it helps a dealer get answers fast—like sales numbers or vehicle history—without doing it by hand."}},{"startTime":861.43,"endTime":867.59,"type":"car","title":"Ford Fiesta","url":"/cars/ford/fiesta-active","image":"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/2018_Ford_Fiesta_Active_B%26O_PLAY_1.0.jpg","quote":"...o ask you what's the service history like on this Ford Fiesta we've got for sale and any of his team can do thi...","canonicalId":"car:ford:fiesta-active","priority":0.5,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"The Ford Fiesta Active is a crossover-styled version of the Fiesta, aimed at buyers who want a taller, more rugged look while staying in the small-car category. It’s the kind of model that often comes up in dealer inventory discussions because buyers ask about service history and maintenance records. 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