This segment focuses on how V8 Supercar drivers manage clutch use and downshifts during braking to stay stable and gain traction. The hosts contrast that approach with other racing styles and explain why timing matters.
Wheel hop is a rapid bouncing or hopping of a wheel caused by loss of traction and suspension oscillation. In downshifts, it can be induced when the rear tires suddenly get dragged by engine braking, especially if the clutch and throttle inputs don’t keep the drivetrain and tires in sync.
A downshift is changing to a lower gear, which typically raises engine RPM and increases engine braking. In racing, downshifts are timed to match traction and stability needs during corner entry.
Left foot braking means using your left foot to press the brake pedal while your right foot controls the gas. Racers do it to time the brake and gas more precisely so the car stays more stable and turns better.
Modulating the clutch means using it gently and gradually instead of just on/off. Racers do this to smooth out how power and braking forces move through the car so the tires don’t get overwhelmed.
The driveshaft is the part that sends power from the transmission to the rear wheels. When the car’s forces change quickly, it can get loaded up, so smoothing that transition can help the car stay stable.
Pitching the car means shifting its weight forward and backward—like the nose dipping under braking. Racers use it to help the car turn in and stay balanced as they enter a corner.
The brake caliper is the part that squeezes the brake pads onto the spinning brake rotor. More caliper clamp force generally means stronger braking and more deceleration.
Engine braking means you slow down using the engine instead of the brakes. You lift off the gas and the engine helps slow the car, but it can affect how much grip the tires have—especially the rear tires.
Brake pressure is how hard you’re pushing the brake system. Higher brake pressure usually means stronger braking, and in racing it affects how the tires behave when you slow down.
Car
V8 Supercar
V8 Supercar is a type of race car used in Australian touring-car racing. The key point here is that its setup changes how you brake into a turn—how much you use the rear brakes to help the car rotate.
Rear brake usage is a key tool for controlling how the car rotates during braking and turn-in. In performance driving, using more rear brake can increase rear slip/rotation, but it also raises the risk of rear lockup if traction is limited.
A locked diff means the two drive wheels act like they’re tied together. When you’re turning, that can make the car less flexible with grip, so you may need more rear brake to get it to rotate the way you want.
The brake zone is the part of the track where you’re braking hard before you turn. It’s where you decide how long to brake and when to start releasing so the car can turn.
An open diff lets the two drive wheels spin at different speeds. That usually makes the car grip better in turns, so you don’t have to rely on heavy rear braking to make it rotate.
Rear locking is when the back wheels lose grip and stop spinning while you’re braking. It can make the car rotate, but it can also make it harder to steer smoothly.
Front brake bias means more of the braking is happening at the front wheels. That helps prevent the rear wheels from locking up, so the car stays easier to control when you brake into a turn.
The “pole” is the starting position at the front of the grid, typically awarded based on qualifying speed. Starting from the pole can be a major advantage because it reduces traffic and helps you control the early race.
A caution means the race slows down because something happened on the track. It can change strategy because everyone has to adjust their plans for tires and fuel.
Fuel strategy is figuring out if you have enough gas to finish the next part of the race. If you can’t make it, you have to change how you drive or pit sooner.
The Mercury Cougar is a car made by Mercury, which was part of Ford. It was designed to be comfortable and stylish, more like a “personal” car than a basic family sedan. People bring it up when they’re talking about a particular Cougar and its history.
A paint scheme is the car’s “look” for a specific race—its colors and stickers/graphics. NASCAR teams swap these designs for different sponsors or special events.
Term
oil tank
The oil tank is where the car keeps its engine oil. Putting something “next to the oil tank” means it was located near important engine equipment.
Term
down bar
A down bar is a metal support bar in the race car’s frame. It helps hold the car’s structure together, especially around the safety cage area.
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SPG, I saw some cameras on his feet.
Did you see that?
Yeah.
The guy don't like his, he don't like cameras on his feet.
Do you know that?
Because it gives away, could give away what he's doing.
Listen, let me tell you something, SPG, and he, is he coming calling in with you?
Yeah, he's calling.
Okay, let me talk to him about this.
So I don't, I don't want to repeat myself, so I'm going to save that conversation.
But I'll just say it.
I'm at the Chicago race.
We are in the middle of the race.
The race is happening.
SPG is looking like he might win this freaking thing, right?
So the broadcast is getting going.
All the people at home are going and I start getting text messages from my friends in Australia
and one of the people that's texting me is a guy by the name of Paul Morris and Paul
Morris is a V8 Supercar driver from years ago and Paul has served on like the V8 Supercar
committee.
This dude, he's a racer and you can, you can follow Paul on social media.
He's talking about racing and dudes, he's in it and he knows SVG and all these guys really
well.
He said, he's kicking these guys ass because of how he uses the clutch on, on, on in the
braking zone.
And so traditionally, now this is, this is something I think those guys in Australia
do really well with the V8 Supercar and I'm sure it happens.
It's well done probably in Europe as well, F1 drivers, whatever, right?
I mean, this, this isn't like a.
It's their craft.
Yeah.
This ain't **** NASCAR guys do.
But when we use the clutch, if we do, it's change of **** gear.
We don't use the clutch to, to, to control wheel hop or any of that ****.
We don't use the clutch to, to try to improve tire life over the duration of a run.
Paul was like, hey, when he goes down into the braking zone, you know, he lifts off the
gas, mash the brake pedal, but you'll watch him.
He'll modulate the clutch and he's, so when you, when you at a road course, if you're
driving wide **** open into a deep braking zone, you lift off the gas, you pop the revs
to downshift like 11 and as soon as you put the car into the lower gear, it tries
to drag the rear tires, the rear, it's called engine braking.
And so you're, you're de-sailing in a high RPM and it's, and it sometimes in bad cases
can induce wheel hop.
The rear tires just start bouncing across the racetrack and you see guys wreck.
When you were racing, you were left foot braking in these zones, right?
You would left foot brake and then pop the gas pedal.
He is right foot braking.
I suppose.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's right foot braking and he's got his foot on the clutch.
Yes.
And so what he, what he's, what he's doing is he's, he kind of, when he starts to feel
the rear tires trying to get time, like the engine braking, trying to drag the rear tire
or even induce some wheel hop, he will modulate the clutch just slightly to dampen the load
on the drive train, the, the, you know, what, yeah, the effect on the, like the drive shaft.
They have, you know, different components in the next gen car than they don't have drive
shafts anymore, like a rally car, but he's trying to dampen the load that the drive train
is trying to put on the rear tires.
So the tire isn't being, getting his ass kicked.
The rear tires aren't getting their ass kicked into the braking zone in a downshift under
engine braking.
And so another thing that he does is he will modulate the clutch and pitch the car in the
middle of the corner down deep in the braking zone.
He kind of, he kind of will release the clutch a little bit or use the clutch pedal in a
way to help the car pitch and turn.
No other, no other NASCAR driver is using the clutch pedal like this.
No one.
And so they talked about it during the broadcast, Kevin Harvick mentioned it, but it allows
him to brake much deeper and he's using a lot of more, he's using more brake caliper,
brake clamp, he's using a lot more brake force to slow the car down.
A lot of guys, myself included, we use the engine braking to slow the car down, but
that's bad on the rear tire.
That makes the rear tire mad because the rear tire is literally kind of trying to get drug
into the corner depth.
And so I, like when we would go to even Pocono turn one when we were down shifting, I'm down
shifting early using the engine braking.
No, I'm using less brake pedal, brake pressure and using engine braking to slow the car down.
I did that at road courses too.
That ain't the way to do it.
That ain't the best way to do it.
The best way to do it is to use less engine braking, use brake pedal, use the actual braking
system and use the clutch to modulate wheel hop deep into the braking zone.
And so that is, I mean, the dude's just really great at road courses, but that's one of the
reasons why he's not only great, but that also makes him fast on the back end of the
run.
I've, everyone else out there has pissed their tires off, slid front tires, made the rear
tires mad, doing all those things I just talked about.
And he, he is out there driving fast, but also keeping his tires happy.
And so halfway into the run or at the very end of the run, this guy is still smoking
off big time laps and no one else can get even close.
Seconds.
Yes.
That is the difference.
We went to the next couple of races and he did not want foot cameras.
And if they put a foot camera in there, he kicked it out of the way.
But no, I would tell him, Hey, I get it.
This is the thing that you can do that these other guys don't know how to do, but their
ass ain't gonna learn it.
Not this.
I don't think so.
This is a technique that you need to be doing from the day that you start driving race cars.
It ain't some you can start picking up and learning and understanding.
There ain't no chance.
No way in hell.
There is a single driver in the NASCAR Cupfield today that could apply and adopt this technique
and do it.
Well, they just, it's just not possible.
Shane Bangisberg and calling in right here, joining the Dell junior download.
Shane, thanks for giving us some time today.
We're gonna get a foot.
Yeah, we need a foot camera.
Yeah.
We need a foot cam.
See what you're doing.
So kind of, some kind of technique you're using during this call.
Hey, I wanted to talk to you about that and I ain't gonna let you off the hook.
So you, when we put the foot camera in there, you kept telling, you kept telling us, I work
with the network.
So I know the dialogue.
You kept telling us, man, I don't want that foot camera down there.
And then we'd put one down there and you kick it out of the way.
What's the deal?
I just, I have big feet.
I'm a big foot.
Haha, bulls*** in the wrong spot.
Oh, bulls***.
Are you serious?
The camera was in your way.
It was in the way.
Oh, s***.
So, you're concerned, I think you have genuine concern that, you know, you don't want a lot
of people to really truly see that technique or understand that technique, but I gotta
tell you, no one's gonna be able to learn that.
Like, our guys that are 30, 35, 40 years old, they're not gonna be able to like, tack this,
put this in their, you know, their repertoire.
They're not gonna be able to like, start trying this technique and do it, do it well.
I think Logano and Syndrake have started to-
They're trying, but Logano-
Right, yeah.
I learned, I heard them talking like Logano was trying to do it in practice, but they're
not, they may be trying to like, put their feet where your feet are, but they really
don't know what they're trying to do with the clutch.
You know what I mean?
And I don't know-
I also think people overthink it as well, like I don't think it is a big advantage, but
of course I'm gonna say that, but yeah, it's all I've known, but I used to do it because
you had to in a V8 Supercar.
Right, why did you have to?
Because they would have a locked diff and you'd have to run so much rear brake to make it turn.
So you could control the rear lock and the brake zone, and then as you got to the brake
zone, you'd, the clutch would be out as you turned in and it would help the car to turn.
But in this, you don't need to because the diff is open, so it, you don't really have
rear locking because you can run so much more front brake bias.
Right.
But I don't-
Yeah, like it obviously probably is some, but it's nowhere near.
Yeah.
Like you couldn't, you couldn't drive a V8 Supercar fast and left for brake, you know?
Really?
Maybe before it collapsed, but yeah, not-
That was your problem.
That was my problem.
That was your problem.
Yeah, but here, you know, I don't think it's an advantage at all, but as you said, the
older guys, I would struggle to left for brake, you know?
Exactly.
It would be hard for me to go and do the opposite.
It's time to move on to Ask DBC.
These questions are submitted by our fans, so apologies in advance.
Kurt, the last time the number 97 sat on the pole was homestead in 2004.
When you won the Cup Series Championship, what do you remember from that weekend?
Aw, I mean, that was the championship run.
That's when the year, the focus, the execution, back then we used to be able to test wherever
we wanted, like for five test sessions.
It wasn't just a good year tire test.
So we saved all of our tests for the final 10 weeks.
We went to Martinsville about 10 days prior.
We went to Darlington 10 days prior, went to all these tracks, and just to execute all
the way through that playoff run.
Our plan was to show up like a possum when the playoff started, and we were like seventh
or eighth in points all year.
The 10 guys got in back then, and then the first playoff race was loud.
We won it and didn't look back.
And then to get to homestead, we were getting nervous.
Like my points lead, we blew an engine at Atlanta, and the points lead had kind of dwindled
down to basically what it is in today's format, three points.
So I had a three-point lead on Johnson and like a five-point lead on Gordon.
And what I remember vividly the most, yeah, the wheel broke and came apart.
I missed the end of pit road somehow, some way.
We reset in the back and just kind of worked our way back up.
One thing I remember though was there was a late caution, and we couldn't quite make it on fuel.
It was too far of a stretch.
And Jimmy Fennin and the crew chiefs like, we can't make it.
We can't make it.
We're going to have to pit again.
And I said, if Gordon and Johnson pit, we're coming in with them.
We're all either going to go back up to the top five together or we're all going to run out together.
And sure enough, they pitted.
We pitted, and we all worked our way back up through just one car at a time.
And I just kept watching Johnson, Gordon, and just passing cars.
And I don't even know who I was passing to on the win or how.
I just had to keep watching to be within two positions of Johnson.
That's what I remember the most about that day.
And it all ended up unfolding to where we won that championship.
How'd you get that tire to fall off at the perfect time?
Right.
When that thing was vibrating, it wasn't because of a loose wheel from a pit stop.
It wasn't because the tire was coming apart because of excessive wear.
It was this little guy on my shoulders like, you're not ready to win.
There's a vibration.
You got a pit.
And this guy over here is like, dude, just go for it, man.
Just go for it.
There's nothing wrong.
You're ready for this moment.
Go for it.
No, we can't do this.
That's what's in his head right there.
That's perfect.
Right there.
Then I'm asking all the people in the car because I always had imaginary friends.
Hey, finally, everyone's seeing a real car bus.
Can I know?
Dude in the right rear.
Hey, man, how about I scrape that fender?
Oh, you're fine.
Keep digging.
No, it's fun.
But what's cool?
I can tell this funny story about the 97 when I left Roush racing for different reasons.
One of them was they stiffed me with the bill in New York at the banquet to pay for dinner
for all the crew guys.
That was one of the reasons.
But the team retired the number 97, kind of like an FU on the way out.
And when Jamie McMurray took over, it was car number 26.
It's kind of cool.
The 97 sat dormant for all these years.
And I feel like that's kind of my number in the Hall of Fame.
That's my vibe.
And I'm so proud of SVG for bringing it.
And he's running it now because that was his childhood number.
Yeah.
It's cool, though, the 97 sat dormant for years.
And that's a cool question to have on the show.
And can you tell us the story of how the Cougar car scheme happened?
Oh, the Cougar.
Yeah.
So I was running with James Finch and James Finch, one of the most awesome guys, like
the Mohawk team guy, right?
Yeah.
He would do anything for you to have fun.
And the way that we had a charity program that weekend at Talladega.
And I was going through it.
Like, we weren't really rounding up sponsors when I was running with Finch.
We had a few early in the year.
And then things were starting to fizzle out.
And I'm like, hey, man, can I just run a paint scheme for our military and have the
Cougar car at Talladega because Talladega nights.
And he was going through it in the movie, right?
I mean, Will Ferrell's working his way back up, trying to find his mojo.
And he had to learn how to drive with a Cougar in the car.
That's what his dad taught him to do.
NASCAR let me run with a stuffed Cougar in the car.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was on the down bar right next to the oil tank.
A stuffed animal.
Like, could have got a little hot.
Could have caught on fire.
Cougar in the car.
Another friend in there.
Yeah.
I was chatting with him.
Another friend.
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Do you remember the feeling that you had when you got called?
Yeah, I was pumped, yeah.
Is it like, is there any, I know there's a relation, right?
And happiness and excitement around that.
But is there also relief that you got 18 years of work?
Yeah.
You got all this.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a little bit of relief.
I mean, I never really, I didn't really think about planning the MBA.
Really?
Until like my senior year of high school.
And even then, it's like, you don't really know how college is going to go.
So I didn't think about it much.
I thought about just getting better each day.
And I think that was a good approach for me.
But yeah, it was awesome.
I was pumped.
And it's good to find out where you're going, where you're moving.
I think that's a big piece of it too.
It's like you have no idea where you could be living next year.
And so I was pumped to stay in state too, where I'd been the year before.
Yeah.
You had a decent idea of what it was like, what it looked like to be aim-wise.
Yep.
So that was also a plus.
Yeah.
Your time in Duke though, I mean, it's literally like what, 16 months total?
No.
Not even.
Yeah.
I'd say you get there in July and I was out by two graduates in like late April.
So I was out by April.
Forgive my ignorance, but is that like, is that your expectation going in?
No.
Right?
You're thinking it could be your 34 years?
Yeah.
Yeah, I had no anticipation or expectation to be division one.
Do some guys have that locked in their mind?
That's my goal.
That's what's happening.
Yeah.
I mean, like Cooper was like the number one player in the country.
So he was like, everybody was already saying he was the number one pick.
And so, you know, he probably like, he knows, it was, it happened like pretty early on where
I was like, oh, okay, like, I think, I think I'll be able to go.
But I had no idea.
I just kind of wanted to throw myself into that.
And that was kind of a, it's kind of a goal, I'd say.
Is it your choice entirely?
I mean, you can stay.
You see now that, you know, kids that are kind of borderline in that, in that like lottery
to like late first round range are going back because they're getting paid and paid a lot.
Plus, is it realistic to think they got a better shot at a higher pick the second year?
Yeah, I think, yeah.
Yeah.
I think so.
You know, age starts to become a thing where it's like, oh, you're old, you're a little
older so you don't get picked as early.
Like what age is getting old?
Yeah.
I think, you know, like sometimes being like a, like 22, like a scene, like if you want
four years and you're 22, like that sometimes that dings you a little bit.
Really?
Yeah.
But then you see those guys will come in and be awesome.
Yeah.
So I don't know if that thought process is changing a little bit, but sometimes it does
kind of ding guys.
Well, I wanted to talk about the rookie of the year.
I don't want to make you uncomfortable because you're a humble guy, but there was a big debate
nationwide over who was the rightful rookie of the year this year.
And, you know, I, I kind of want to hear how you, I don't know that you probably care too
much about how that netted out.
At least you're not, you know, it is what it is.
And I'm not asking you to tell me whether you feel like you deserve it or not, but you,
you, like all of us have to wait for the results and those are the results and you move forward.
Your good friend wins the award.
You both are very supportive of each other, which is great.
And I'm sure you've heard a ton of great feedback from fans who believed that you deserve to win it.
What has that experience been like?
I mean, I was sitting there thinking I was devastated for you because, you know, having
paid really close attention to the season, I felt like that the body of work was, was
deserving of the award.
But I was wondering maybe that you were just thankful to be in the conversation and that
you're like, man, this is what, what a hell of an opportunity to.
So I'm just curious, you know, where, what was your mind frame?
You know, obviously I wanted to win it.
I felt like I felt that if you would have told me that that's how I played at the beginning
of the season, this is how your season would go.
I would have taken it 100%.
I went into the day of them announcing it in the morning.
I was like, I can't do anything about it now.
I did all I could.
And so, you know, I never really, I would have, you know, felt a little bit bad about it if I was like,
oh man, I, you know, I left some stuff out there, but I felt like I, you know, I did all I could.
You know, maybe I wish I could have shot it better at the end of the season, but you know, you do,
you do all, I did all I could.
And so, I was willing to live with the result.
I felt like I had a really, really good season.
I felt like I was deserving.
I would have won it in a lot of different years.
And I thought Cooper was also very deserving.
He had a great year.
And so.
Have you and him had an opportunity to chat?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I texted him right after, you know, try to get together with him this summer sometime for a weekend or something.
But yeah, we talked about it.
Congratulated him.
You know, he had a heck of a season.
And, you know, yeah, I was definitely an honor to be, even be considered.
You know, obviously wish I would have won.
For sure.
Man, I was wanting that for you as well, bud.
And I know it doesn't.
It's a very small consolation prize, but there are so many people that are so,
that believe you deserved it.
There's a lot of Hornets fans that still have their mind about the player you are,
the person you are, hasn't been altered at all by the overall decision.
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I play a little game of this or that.
This or that.
And keep it real simple.
So first question is, would you rather be each other's gym partners or workout solo?
Solo.
Solo.
I just feel like you're better off to be separate.
They'll grunt too much.
Oh my God.
I'm just kidding.
When's the last time you worked out, Dale, on the gym?
When's the last time I worked out?
I don't know.
About four months ago.
Three months ago.
I get these little spurts where I'm like, I'm going to do it maybe two weeks, maybe
four weeks, whatever.
He has these little programs.
He'll pull up on his phone with the app, tells him what to do and it prompts him to do all
the things and he'll do that.
And once he gets to the goal, he's like, okay, done.
I don't have a routine.
It's hard to stay at it.
He's never been one to work out.
It's hard to stay at it.
I do enjoy it though.
That's why I had to do one where I go to Orange Theory because I need someone to tell me what
to do and kind of push me a little.
Orange Theory is hard.
Yeah.
I enjoy it though.
I like riding my bike.
I have an indoor bike.
I have my road bikes for outside.
I like riding bike either way.
The road biking thing has such a weird stigma, but it is so fun.
Dale and I have done that together.
That is one thing we do together.
You don't really talk to each other, but it's fun to do the road bikes.
I have an e-bike because I can't keep up.
I love being outdoors exploring and riding around on the lake.
You see areas you don't see just riding around town?
Yeah.
I don't think that's the same as going to the gym.
Really going to the gym.
Yeah, I don't.
I'd rather do it alone.
I despise running.
Yeah, I feel like everybody around you despises running.
Nobody's running.
Yeah.
Next question is, would you rather be the couple that hosts the party or disappears early at the party?
Damn.
Can I be both?
Host the party.
Host and disappear early.
I hate hosting.
So you want to disappear early?
I f***** hate hosting.
Why do you hate hosting?
Because there's pressure.
You've got to get the place clean.
There's pressure that it's fun for everybody.
You've got to make sure everybody's having a good time, make sure the music's right.
You don't love it either.
I do love it.
So here's the thing.
We have a different version of what's important when we're hosting.
I want to make sure that everybody's got enough food, that there's water, that there's things.
And Dale just wants everybody to come over.
And he's worried about music and the entertainment part of it.
The vibe.
Yeah.
And so if I start getting out catering and what he's like, oh my gosh, this is way too much.
I'm like, not really.
You have 30 people coming over here.
What if they need something to eat?
So we've always just disagreed about that part of it.
But everybody always used to come over.
We've always hosted.
I don't mind.
We did disagree.
We don't anymore.
I'm fine with the, like feeding everybody.
I used to always think, so I was like, man, we're all, everybody's coming over to drink.
Yeah.
We're not coming over here to eat a full spread.
Just snack and drink.
I'm like, we are here to drink.
And you know what?
The less eating, the better.
Yeah.
I mean, I understand that.
And then Amy comes into my life and she's like, hey, when everybody comes over, I'm going to have tacos.
I'm like, no, what the fuck?
I'm going to have some hot dogs.
Yeah.
So we got a hot dog machine too from the old, the hauler.
And so like had the roller.
I would just keep hot dogs down there in the fridge and have buns in the freezer.
And I could get them out because inevitably around 10, 30 or 11, everyone was starving
and people were still wanting to hang out.
Like a hot dog is not going to throw your whole night, but you need to have a little food in there.
Speaking of food, soft or hard shell tacos?
Soft.
Hard.
I'm with Dale on this one.
He likes soft corn and I like soft flour.
Soft corn?
Corn.
Wow.
Did you not hear her?
James.
She said soft corn.
We lost James before Dale even responded.
Did you think she said it?
No.
James nodding.
I've got too much Botox in my lip and I can't even say the words right.
He likes soft corn.
Corn.
Golly.
I like soft corn.
Soft corn.
Tortillas.
Okay, tacos.
We're talking about tacos, guys.
Who eats the hard corn?
God dang.
I'm out.
I mean.
I'm out of here.
Going home.
Like, we can't even talk about tacos.
The girls like crunchy tacos.
It's the only way I get them to eat tacos.
I can't.
I do not know what in the hell people are thinking that like hard tacos.
It just falls apart.
Dude, as soon as you bite into it, it is a fucking destroy.
It is not a taco anymore.
You think that people that like hard tacos are just like crazy people?
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
Well, me and my kids are crazy.
I just think you should just get nachos.
Well, I love nachos, too.
Like, don't hold out on me.
Hello, nacho.
That's basically what a hard taco becomes after the first bite.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Late in nachos.
Yeah.
That's how I got Nicole to even eat nachos.
It's given her crunchy tacos.
It fell apart.
And I looked at her and said the exact same thing.
She's like, oh, you know, you got nachos.
You like nachos, too.
She told her.
And she's like, oh, okay.
It's a massive disappointment when you open up the bag and you put your taco in a hard
shell and you're like, well, this ain't going to be as good as I thought.
All right, let's get off this topic.
All right.
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About this episode
Clutch and braking technique take center stage as the hosts explain how drivers manage engine braking, wheel hop, and tire stability deep in the braking zone—often by using the brake pedal and modulating the clutch. The conversation then shifts to Kurt Busch’s championship memories, including a wheel failure, a pit road mistake, and a late caution that left them short on fuel. Between stories, Dale Jr. covers the retirement of car number 97 and the Talladega “Cougar” charity paint-scheme idea, plus plenty of fan and food talk.
Ah, snap, here we go again. It's another 30 minutes of nothing but the best Dirty Mo Media has to offer. It's Dirty Thirty time, y'all!
First up, Dale Jr. wants everyone to know about Shan van Gisbergen's unique footwork that sets him apart (by a few seconds...) from the rest of the field. Then we hear from SVG himself on whether he feels it's truly an advantage or not.
Over in the land of spotters, the Door Bumper Clear crew welcomed Hall of Famer Kurt Busch to the table, where he told us about his championship run in 2004, his imaginary friends, and the cougar that rode with him at Talladega.
Dale Jr. interviewed basketball's newest phenom and Charlotte Hornets rookie, Kon Knueppel! He discusses the moment he got called up and the Rookie of the Year battle with Cooper Flagg.
Last but not least, we have an epic Bless Your 'Hardt moment. Dale & Amy play a rousing round of "This or That," where the conversation about hard vs. soft taco shells divides the room between dirty minds and innocent foodies.
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