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hello and welcome to this car pod I'm
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Ken I'm fipo and today we have big news
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cars and& bids has an app yes it looks
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like this this is Filippo's phone on our
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out of focus camera this is an app that
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we have you can bid you can look you can
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see you can ask questions you can do all
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this stuff on our app and get
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notifications and other great things
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fipo tell us more about the beauty of
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the app it is just incredibly beautiful
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and it's please download it go to the
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App Store it is currently only for iOS
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so if you have an iPhone go to the App
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Store download it you'll get push
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notifications you'll be alerted to any
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new activity in the auctions you're
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watching it's a great great way to bid
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greatway to engage in community just go
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download it we're incredibly excited
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that the cars and bids app is finally
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here what are you doing to celebrate
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kenon well I've been using it which has
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been great it it's nice to have it like
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just on my home screen it is nice to get
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notifications like a D in S3 M5 that
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we're going to talk about later today
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and I got notifications for it which is
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wonderful did you celebrate the app by
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backing over a television in a BMW M5
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yes or no I celebrated the strength of
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the M5 by doing that but we'll move on
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that's another thing and it wasn't my M
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for a different day all right we got
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some news to discuss aside from the app
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which is new and you should download it
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bring it on the careera GT news wow
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brand new car brand new holy crap can't
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V10 now the K GT news is that uh
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Michelin has developed a new tire for
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the cre GT ah even though the Creer GT
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hasn't been in production since 2005 6
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2006 you believe this now is this
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because the handling of the car is
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sketchy and people are concerned tires
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have been an issue on the car in in lore
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I don't believe that's true either but
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in lore tires have been an issue a lot
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of people talk about how tires
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contribute to the Paul Walker Collision
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they may have contributed a little bit
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my biggest feeling is the the biggest
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issue there was they were going 94 mph
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in 35 Zone I think that was probably the
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primary factor and Tires Tires were old
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yeah it's but I think you do a 94 and a
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35 on new tires you're probably you're
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probably also going to probably not not
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advisable generally speaking nope anyway
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the point is they got new tires and
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they're going to put them on all the
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cars they're going to put them on my car
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here pretty soon wow and then part of
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the warranty like the recall replacement
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and then they're going to set a new
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nurur ring lap time they hope now that
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is interesting to me because I have long
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held the belief that if you were to take
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cars on Modern Tire technology You'
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probably get quite a bit better time on
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Racetrack what I wish is that they would
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put it on kws so the car came I'm
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serious it's better suspension the
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suspension technology is dramatically
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better than the sack suspension that
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went in the car 20 years ago but because
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that was the OE supplier Porsche is not
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going to put a OE car on KW suspension
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but I guarantee it would give him an
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extra 3 four seconds I think the
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difference between that car on kws with
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the new tires and without kws with them
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I bet it sets the alltime lack record I
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you started to say that you wish they
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put it on K and I really thought it was
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ko2 quite something if that car was on
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KW suspension I really think that it
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would be even faster and it'll be
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interesting to see where it lands yeah I
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I'm very excited and honestly I hope
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that a number of Manufacturers continue
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this with their older like very high Lin
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por is doing it in in kind of an
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interest it's self- serving because
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Porsche wants everybody to realize that
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they're standing behind their supercars
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in a way that some automakers are not
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and so they're like oh we're still
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developing tires we're still supporting
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with parts we're still doing n times we
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still care and to fores credit it helps
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the resale value of CR GT and when your
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Hybrid battery goes in certain cars and
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the automaker is not there to stand
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behind it then you start to not the 918
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spider the other certain other brands
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cars from another yeah the nation's
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shaped like a boot fipo no and so then
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you start to wonder like okay is that
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should I buy the next one and Porsche is
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making it clear like you should buy
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Mission X because we care about career
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GT enough even 20 years later we're
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still developing tires we're still
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setting nurburg ring times Etc it's kind
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it is kind of cool it is a cool exercise
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and that makes sure that everybody's
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aware hey they're going to keep values
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high of these cars they're going to keep
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making Parts unlike Z8 tail lights you
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want to talk about that next let's just
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do it you want to talk about that now
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okay I found out that the BMW Z8 car we
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all know and love indear the tail lights
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are neon have you heard this whole story
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yet the tail lights are neon it came out
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in 2000s before anybody had
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conceptualized LEDs right so they came
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out neon tail lights yeah I know I'm
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take a guess what a replacement cost for
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is 17,000 17,000 is absurd it's 5 grand
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a light that's not notable you want to
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replace your tail lights $10,000 plus L
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Mercedes E350 headlight costs well
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headlights are different headlights have
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all sorts of they turn and they have all
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sorts of little in them a tail light
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up me and K change tail light Ken and I
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could no joke change the Countach tail
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lights we didn't even need a weekend or
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cold ones we could go do it right now
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like even just a mildly cool one would
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be fine I don't need a to be cold to
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last the duration of the service but the
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yeah the it is interesting so I mean
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there are a couple reasons one they're
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only ever fitted to one car y but the
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thing is they're known for failure they
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fail all the time so they're all failing
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right now it's kind of a knife that just
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hangs over every C's head it's like when
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are my tail lights going to
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,000 tail lights going to repl many
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people do you think are just like
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hitting them so that they can file an
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insurance CL oh interesting I say if I
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were to guess how many people I would
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say none none insurance fraud is rampant
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no that's never happened but Z8 tail
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lights are 10 grand to replace now with
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that said SLR brakes are 40 right so you
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know com you have to really pick your
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battles here but nonetheless H what a
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cool car it is cool but that is that is
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crazy I wonder what the most expensive
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BMW component you can buy is individual
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component you know what the other funny
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thing about this car was when they when
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they released this car they announced
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that it would have a like a 50-year
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parts they would have a stock of parts
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for 50 years of course they abandoned
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that the minute the car went out of
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production they had a stock of parts for
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like a long weekend that was it right as
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I know some s s62 parts are no longer
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available which come in the real Z8 not
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the alenis and so okay and so yeah but
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they did tout that in uh in traditional
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BMW fashion lied lied okay give us our
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next news story what do we got next uh
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this okay Kon I want to tell you about
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this cuz I guarantee you haven't done
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any Research into it and I want to tell
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you what's going on that's true Tesla
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did another event like they do and i'
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people pay attention to these events
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less and less because they're the boy
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who cried wolf they announced stuff that
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never comes and they announced two new
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cars the Roadster is a good example
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because they announced two new cars here
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but the Roadster which was announced
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like seven years ago at an event still
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isn't here has active deposit people put
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down real money put down money and it's
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like okay well why are you showing us
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new cars when you're kind of late on the
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car that we've already okay but
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regardless this is a new Tesla Robo taxi
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yes what I'm about to tell you is trueth
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it is two it's a taxi with two seats yep
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so it's you and one other person show
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who's not a driver you and one other
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person if you got three people tough
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tough got to get another one y you got
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to get another but even better you see
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how it's a wheel and then there's
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outside there's more gold they painted
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the tire what they painted the tire look
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that is just a tire that's been painted
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genius anyway I don't even find this to
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be that important of a news story they
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announced it it was it was sort of a big
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thing but nobody really cares anymore
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what Tesla says at these things because
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we all know we're not going to see the
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car when it's promised it won't look
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like it was promised it isn't going to
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do what they said it would do still
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waiting on the Roadster well I'm still
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waiting on Cyber truck to cost 60 Grand
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or the or the model 3 to cost 30 so what
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is the toaster thing that is door it's
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Van as with many startups they're
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Reinventing public transit ironic
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ironically this seat's 20 and this
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seat's two I don't need either of those
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I need I need this to seat about five
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and this to seat about
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nine so really catering to you here I
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need to average out these two and to be
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to be in order for to be rational car
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and we need to not paint the tires is it
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gold because the idea of public
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transport like taxis are yellow and so
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this is like cooler is that future of
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yellow yeah and gold happens to be like
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a very trendy color right now
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interesting I want Ken to know that at
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the event where they revealed this they
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also had a robot serving drinks now the
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robot originally claimed gold it wasn't
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gold they originally claimed that it was
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like some kind of like Tech that allowed
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it to do this on its own there was a
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person controlling it they there was REM
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there was like a remote controlled
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robot these stuff I would had RC maybe
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we got a robot right here we sure do
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this guy's the future Transit little
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Michael it's his name is Mike Mikey okay
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700 this is a big news story that I
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don't forget 700 H this is a big news
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story that I want to tell fipo about
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I'll tell you why my seoa has a 3.4 l
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hybrid V6 with 440 horsepower and 580
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pbet of torque and up until this moment
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the Lexus LX the top dog big boy doesn't
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have that but now it does it actually
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has more they gave it a little more
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power they they were like how is the
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Sequoia the top dog big boy we need this
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to be the top dog big boy so they give
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it the same torque and slightly more
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power 480 instead of 440 do you know
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what else this will come out in 2025
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there's no other information but you
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know what there will be that there's not
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currently an overt tril trim there's
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going to be over Trail trim of this yep
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with triple locking diffs ooh really
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yeah W electronically locking but yeah
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triple lockers are unusual these days I
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just drove that G wagon with four Motors
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and I'm like well I don't need a triple
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Locker you don't yeah interesting
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um by the way it's 457 horsepower not
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480 so it's only 20 more horsepower than
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my SEO Bu The King pound torque have 583
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same oh same same wow they basically had
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to upgrade the LX just to meet the seia
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and its needs now the benefit of this is
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that you don't have to have camo Fender
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which is admittedly a benefit that I too
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would pay an extra 30 grand for what
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does this cost 30 they haven't revealed
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pricing no but pricing is enormous you
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know when I went to look for my seoa the
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cheapest one of these I found was used
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$120,000 and and I thought spending 85
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on the seoa was already way too much
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money so a new one I mean they were
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markups I don't know what the sticker
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the lx600 based model starts at 94 94
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but there were heavy markups on them and
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then there were the used Market was
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crazy and all that I don't know if there
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still is not a lot of LX demand you
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don't see them you don't see them you
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see new Range Rovers you don't see a lot
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of new lxs it drives like a truck yep
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okay give us our next news story ooh ooh
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uh Brembo the people that make breaks
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have bought Oland the people that make
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suspensions uh for for $45 million 405
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405 million huh what's uh the upshot of
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that we're done with that new story I
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mean it's in right there's some
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consolidation in the part space
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certainly Brembo sold off some Division
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and had some cash and I think decided to
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spend it there um what's our latest with
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ricaro that's the only kind concerned
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about BBS um BBS is perpetually in
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bankruptcy though it's like i't anything
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new the bankrupcy Lamborghini in the 60s
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80s and 9s and then Audi bought it yeah
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um couple of interesting things largest
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acquisition in BRBO
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history it is it is all cash move on to
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the next one because the next one's good
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yes so this is the Corvette ZR1 we're
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all very excited for this car to come
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out and GM has been doing a good job
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marketing it people are very excited but
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they also want to give some real stats
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to this thing so we all know it has 1,64
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horsepower which is crazy but how fast
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does it really go as you say all
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performance cars are the same fast not
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this one this one does
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233 M hours tested the combined speed
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like so let going one way and coming
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back and averaging it was 233 making
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this the only car under a million
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dollars that will do 233 mil hour it's
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faster than McLaren it's not as fast as
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McLaren F1 but it's what was the 237 23
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241 and all McLaren F1 fans are like
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it's the fastest naturally car ever and
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so this is up there this is turbocharged
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and and hybrid and new and automa and
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yeah but you know regular C8 is na
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though and I I think I would hang my hat
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on that but the the part that gets me
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about very impressive but the part that
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gets me about this is that Mark Rey the
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president of GM is the one who set the
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speed no way and he did it with a
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passenger oh wow so it could go faster
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so it yeah so it could go faster but
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that how insane is that I mean that's
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just like a Throw Down The Gauntlet kind
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of performance I still believe that all
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cars are the same fast performance cars
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are the same because you'll never do two
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33 they did this on I've been to their
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Proving Grounds which where I'm sure
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they did this right they actually did
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this in Germany they did it in Germany
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aut that's the thing board in order okay
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it it costs under a million dollar buy
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the car what does it cost to fly it to
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Germany and get all the people ready to
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well below million you get the point
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Corvette you get the point you got to
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rent the track yeah you get my point I
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mean that is that is 233 is amazing
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especially because people kind of stop
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doing the top speed thing like every
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performance car now hits 200 that's kind
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of the benchmark it's enough it's enough
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admittedly and some of those coning and
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stuff go so fast that nobody's ever
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really going to beat that and then the
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question of is it even a production car
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kind of came into play it's like kind of
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over as someone who owns a car that was
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the fastest car in the world at one
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briefly two years but it's technicality
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almost oh two years um it's the kage for
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those of you who are
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wondering y every other car at the time
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was trash and that was also trash but
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just slightly faster trash well fter
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yeah faster trash it is the fastest car
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from America except for one yeah oh the
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yep ultimate Arrow TT those are not cars
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so this is the fastest American car the
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ssara and arrow are the aspark owl of
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American they W went 283 mph it was then
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question it was the whole thing as you
15:06
guys recall oh I was and then that car
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burned or got crashed into or something
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it got crashed into you know what didn't
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get crashed into Mark Roy driv 240 and a
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ZR1 with a passenger with a passenger
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who's the passenger I don't know but
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they were they must have been scared out
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the why is this corporate executive
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driving so fast this person is
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unqualified yes if anything happens we
15:31
are so screwed better hope it's
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quick it would yeah but also a rare a
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rare opportunity when GM actually does a
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stunt like this and it pulls off cuz
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they have an executiv crash a Z1 several
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years ago like Tes like yeah I think
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that happened as well
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so and I'm going to tell you this and I
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want you to understand how special it is
15:51
I drove the Hummer EV many years ago at
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the GM test track the next day Joe Biden
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drove it at the same place
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wow you beat Jo bid I got before Joe
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Biden now Johnny liberman had it before
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me but we're not talking about that
16:08
what's the next new you're out here
16:10
you're doing it you're you're winning
16:12
it you're driving the Corvette this is
16:15
not all right give us the next news
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got oh okay what the hell there's
16:21
something that I want to talk about what
16:22
is this Renault which is a car company
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in France and that's actually owned by
16:26
FCA interestingly um has been coming out
16:28
with some great retro cars this which
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well we'll talk about why I care about
16:33
it this is the R4 which is meant to look
16:35
a little bit like the old Renault R4 and
16:37
there's also an R5 which I think is
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really They're bringing back the R5 the
16:40
R5 is out no way can you check that is
16:43
yeah the r is like being and it looks so
16:47
cool it looks a little Porsche man V in
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the front but it came out first yeah the
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they're all electric oh yeah it looks
16:53
tycony with the headlights yeah the rear
16:55
though looks Rena 5y and you know what I
16:58
was thinking about this a lot yesterday
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realized we've reached the era where the
17:03
cars that they're doing like Recreations
17:06
of are cars that I care about I didn't
17:08
care when the SSR came out when the
17:09
Heritage High roof HHR came out when the
17:11
PG Cruiser came out when the Camaro
17:12
Mustang redesigned they were like meant
17:14
to be retro came out but I care that a
17:17
90 Renault is now getting being reborn
17:19
that's an interesting
17:21
point point they were starting to Retro
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eyes cars that we grew up with because
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those cars are now 30 40 years old
17:28
there's a there's a retro
17:30
Kai we're old I love this and I think
17:34
everybody else will too like it's
17:35
brilliant to bring are they going come
17:37
back into the US market now that they're
17:38
making electric cars but didn't pujo
17:40
attempt at some point set up an office
17:43
they were going to also have
17:44
DS which is Citroen sporty brand okay so
17:48
what happened it hasn't happened so the
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answer is the upshot of this is we're
17:52
not going to ever see any of these cars
17:53
you will see them when you are walking
17:54
around in Milan as you should yearly as
17:57
I should yearly it's my yearly check
17:59
myage to go see walk around Milan I buy
18:02
that sachche around Milan I just think
18:05
that they're so cool and I wish course
18:06
you actually won't see them in Milan
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because Italians only by time corre
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sorry you will see them in Paris I'll
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see them in N yeah yes how nice
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no okay give us our next news story all
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right this is just I added it in the
18:18
last minute because I think it will
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annoy kenon there you you you are
18:22
familiar with the two Series Gran coup
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Drive I can't stand it kind of ugly two
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Ser ugly I mean we can all
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agree there is a refresh version yeah
18:34
and there's also a new trim level for it
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m235 yeah they're no longer doing I you
18:40
we maybe talked about this already it's
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no longer them confusing when it's I and
18:44
then I3 is electric and I used to be
18:47
injected and every car is injected now
18:48
my favorite part is the badge yeah that
18:50
M2 is Big the M2 is the normal M2 Logan
18:53
then they added 35 at the end right well
18:56
this but this is this is what they're
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doing on all their cars now the first
18:58
number is now big so if you see new Five
19:00
series like 530 it's like 530 it's such
19:03
a lie cuz it's not an M2 well but it's
19:04
M2 35 it's the same thing they're doing
19:07
it on all of them to try to get people
19:08
to understand which line either cars are
19:10
CU they want to emphasize the the series
19:12
above everything else because when go
19:14
electric they're going to lose the
19:15
numbers at the back and then it becomes
19:16
I5 535 they want five to be like the
19:19
number for that car and so they want two
19:21
to be the number for this car but it's
19:22
the implication the implication this is
19:24
a great car people are just going to
19:26
take floss and they're going to Lop off
19:28
the 35 and just have oh it's an M2 back
19:31
that will be the annoyance can I tell
19:32
you something I like this car I like the
19:35
m235 grand coup do you do you have the
19:36
power numbers right there it's 320 isn't
19:38
it it's 312 320 and all-wheel drive it's
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312 and it is all-wheel drive dude 320
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and all you're yawning when I was a kid
19:44
B7 S4 comes out at 270 all wheeel Drive
19:47
same siiz car and people are freaking
19:49
out the kind of people who are right now
19:50
writing us complaints online about how
19:52
they hate this car have a B5 S4 and
19:55
think that car is God and this car is 50
19:56
horses above that car it's the same size
19:59
and it's still four-wheel drive and it's
20:00
a dual clutch it a seven speeed dual
20:02
clut boom this thing's cool I'm
20:03
convinced is it really so why they do so
20:06
the M5 has an automatic and that has
20:08
this thing has a dual clutch what was
20:10
the logic there I'm telling 4.7 seconds
20:13
if 47 that beats your M5 I'm telling you
20:18
that's I'm telling you if they made a
20:19
true M version of this an M2 Grand Coupe
20:21
and it was all wheel drive with 400
20:23
horse it would be an Audi RS3 competitor
20:25
and people would think it's cool I swear
20:27
it's a good looking car people think
20:28
it's not you only say that because you
20:30
know it's a bad car but if you bought it
20:32
if aliens showed up they'd be like
20:34
that's a good-looking car they knew
20:35
nothing about the car only if they had
20:36
poor taste in automobiles I think the
20:38
two grand Coupe is a really cool car
20:40
it's weird for you to die it's got 320
20:43
horsepower all whee drive and dual
20:45
clutch 47 if you put those things on
20:47
paper you would be like this is a cool
20:49
car I will say post face LIF it looks
20:52
better still pull up a picture of this
20:54
thing type in m235i Grand Coupe do you
20:59
got to do 2025 if you want the new one
21:00
and remove I don't care if you do the
21:01
new one because as Doug despite Doug
21:03
saying m235i it's not an m235i got get
21:07
scroll down scroll down pick look look
21:09
at that the white do the white one do
21:10
the white one look at that that's a nice
21:11
looking card the facelift helps the pre-
21:13
facelift I I thought the rear hand like
21:15
the the back was weird I'm not I'm not
21:17
sitting here saying it's the most
21:18
beautiful car I've ever made but I'm
21:19
sitt I'm telling you this if you didn't
21:20
know anything about cars you'd be like
21:22
this and by the way this is the three
21:24
series from years ago when we were all
21:26
like oh we love the E46 here's an E46
21:29
with 312 horow and a dual clutch and wor
21:31
styling yeah okay but it's modern like
21:33
it doesn't have the giant Grill
21:35
everybody complains about this is a good
21:37
car K should like this car you should
21:39
like this car Ken go go out and buy one
21:42
for for Emily she'll enjoy it I don't
21:44
think so stick wants an SUV well she has
21:49
so she also doesn't care about this
21:52
car9 yeah she's legit hey how come we
21:55
not do the story on the cars that di I
21:57
don't know ask her producer that's a
21:59
good story all right uh next up we're
22:02
going to move on to talking about cars
22:04
which we've already been doing but now
22:05
we're going to talk about non- news cars
22:07
cars our lives and I want to start with
22:10
something that irks
22:11
me please when people walk up to me in
22:15
the Countach and they freak out and then
22:17
they ask me if it's real well yeah it's
22:18
the fair question you walked up to me I
22:21
would you tell me if it's real you're
22:23
the one who's freaking out if I walked
22:24
up to somebody and I thought they had a
22:26
Pontiac Fiero kach Recreation I would
22:29
out about it weird odd I would I would
22:32
think it was funny it would be
22:33
entertaining but I point if someone's
22:36
going to come up to me like don't be
22:38
asking me if it's real that's for you to
22:40
figure out before you start freaking out
22:41
of me I'm not here to answer your
22:43
questions about the realness of the
22:44
thing that you're freaking out about get
22:46
out of here you're just like yeah then
22:48
they go oh okay it's nice to meet you
22:50
and then they leave cuz oh you of course
22:52
it's real who do you think don't you
22:55
am I'm dou deiro and this is a
22:58
Lamborghini kest no I always am like
23:01
yeah it's real it's real five leer side
23:03
draft V12 and they're like oh cool and
23:06
but what I want to be like is you're the
23:08
one who got excited yeah so why are you
23:10
asking me if it's real doesn't make
23:13
sense to me go to course type in Fiero
23:15
in the search you're going to talk about
23:17
that uh F4 no no no I'm going to talk
23:19
about the K replica cuz I think it look
23:21
red bot the this one I mean like
23:24
fundamentally that but this
23:26
this this is titled as a Fier but wasn't
23:28
it a tube frame but didn't have nothing
23:30
to do with a Fier kind of it's the VIN I
23:32
think was a Fier there is no Fier
23:34
Countach rep that's this nice no and by
23:36
the way the other thing but is that a
23:37
real one well you know oh it would be
23:39
hard to tell it would be hard to I mean
23:40
the other thing that's annoying to me
23:42
about this or at least surprising is
23:44
that anybody's asking this question at
23:45
all in the '90s and 2000s there were a
23:47
lot of Fiero replicas of Countach around
23:49
but they're gone they were all poorly
23:50
made they've all Fallen to crap you
23:52
don't see them anymore like the last I
23:54
have seen more kosas in the last five
23:55
years than I've seen Fierro k r that's
23:57
so true that's true no no Fiero has made
23:59
it no let alone ones with like poorly
24:02
made fiberglass body panels that some
24:04
dude did in his basement cuz he wanted
24:06
to get away from his family am I wrong I
24:08
mean that's what was going on not wrong
24:09
at all right this is such a good incred
24:12
what self R about this
24:14
68 I mean all the money and it's got the
24:17
interior was good too though I mean
24:18
that's the interior is pretty pretty
24:20
good it's not perfect but like yeah
24:21
itate yeah but it's got a Chevy 5.7 L V8
24:25
yeah those are seats those are real
24:26
seats it's so good it's really cool it
24:29
fool kenon I'll tell you that it' fool
24:31
you I would buy it it would definitely
24:32
fo and fool everybody else he'd even
24:34
hear it start up and he'd be like yep
24:36
that's real not that it would start up
24:39
and that's a tell my car starts every
24:40
time Meanwhile your cars on the other
24:42
hand start every time okay um Can K tell
24:47
us about the gifts yes so I recently was
24:50
in Ohio for my friend sister's wedding
24:52
and there happened to be a car show that
24:53
I went to it was called motto Bella
24:55
amazing turnout and I got some gifts
24:57
from some people who were there so one
24:59
of the people was myON vernes now for
25:01
those of you are unfamiliar he's junkman
25:03
on Instagram um has the most eclectic
25:06
collection of cars I would say of stuff
25:07
you've never heard of I mean that's his
25:09
thing is weird like really bizarre stuff
25:12
when I met him I told him he's like
25:13
known for being into weird cars and he
25:14
was surprised by this and I was like
25:17
that's what that's his thing also one of
25:20
the kindest human beings I've ever met
25:21
truly one of the nicest people and he
25:23
gave me this which is a Dodge Viper rt10
25:27
I don't want to take it out cuz I don't
25:28
want to damage it but it's in there is a
25:31
little Dodge Viper because he knows that
25:33
I have been this is a model of one yes
25:35
the so the in 1992 these were like the
25:37
part of the like press kits that were
25:38
like given out at dealers and so and so
25:41
I happen to have one now because he
25:42
knows I want one and he wants too he
25:44
loves the first gen Viper and knows that
25:45
I'm on don't we all the and so that was
25:47
incredibly kind I was not expecting it
25:49
all but I cherish it thank you my coming
25:53
through yes but it continues so my
25:56
friend Nick had a myok 57 that
25:59
unfortunately caught fire and burned to
26:00
the ground now this is not like just
26:02
something kin saying this is what
26:04
happened fact now but he happened to
26:06
have a bunch of accessories that he
26:07
wanted to so his the spirit of his
26:09
maybot could live on this evidently is
26:12
the press kit that you got when you
26:13
bought bought a Maybach product at the
26:15
time and inside of this portfolio so not
26:17
not the press kit it it was it was this
26:19
came with the your car your car yeah so
26:21
they have his leather interior Swatch
26:23
here which smells amazing smell that
26:25
it's so this is like a smells Le I smell
26:27
it smells like leather it just smells
26:29
like a car of that era it's you could
26:31
almost eat it it's like walking down
26:33
streets Doug might eat it yeah don't
26:35
give him ideas I can't get it out but
26:37
this is the um there's a wood sample too
26:39
that like came with the car and then so
26:41
these were the samples that if you
26:42
ordered a mybach gave you yours and then
26:44
but interestingly they didn't give you
26:46
just the color they're like you can have
26:47
all the colors sir and so you got and
26:49
they all have like the names on the back
26:51
of them but there's the full color range
26:52
which is wait wait can I have clear the
26:54
I want the first one clear that's the
26:57
coat can I ask you guys a little trivia
26:59
question yeah what was the only
27:00
non-metallic color available on the
27:03
Maybach 57 of some kind biano it was
27:06
called it was called uh uh it was called
27:11
White give it one more shot snowy owl
27:14
white it's called Alaska white close I
27:19
know is what he said native Tong there's
27:22
a lot in here I was really stunned so in
27:24
addition to that stuff there also like
27:26
books that talk about like like the
27:29
materials that go into each of these
27:31
cards it's like Story Time give me one
27:33
of these this is like hand painting a
27:35
violin give me give me one of these
27:36
books look at this book eye catching
27:38
effects is the paint section oh my gosh
27:41
this is incredible all this stuff it's
27:43
like oh my God Ken listen paint is
27:45
smooth paint is pure paint is only
27:48
perfect when it looks as if it was
27:49
poured in one go and with a pure
27:51
evenness is not impaired by lumps runs
27:54
or stray strands of hair no matter how
27:57
fine yikes um can I ask you both a
28:01
second trivia question these two greens
28:03
have a very similar name guess what they
28:05
are uh green fipo and green
28:12
mybacco Ireland medium green an Ireland
28:16
dark green okay okay fantastic this is
28:19
amazing I reallyis this is a really cool
28:21
thing when you bought super expensive
28:23
cars this is the kind of thing that you
28:24
do used to get yeah I think still today
28:27
automakers are pretty good about maybe
28:29
you still do but so much of it is
28:30
digital these days online I mean Genesis
28:33
gave you an iPad so right but this I
28:36
this is it was a wonderful gift so thank
28:37
you Nick your mybach lives on here in
28:40
the cars in bid studio and I'll put all
28:41
the stuff back later but speaking gifts
28:44
by the way oh you got something nailed
28:46
something to us you wear this I am
28:49
forgot it's a little what it is is it's
28:53
little uh stuffed bird it's an owl if
28:57
you will it's an owl and and it came
29:00
with a card okay and it's the card says
29:03
my name is aspark and I'm
29:06
real and I agree this is the only real
29:10
aspark owl because the other ones are
29:14
uh fake to be perfectly Frank they're
29:16
not Cars we are aware of hi ow this is
29:20
an aspark or is aspark the owl much more
29:23
aesthetically pleasing than the aspark
29:24
owl to with Mike the Audi robot he sure
29:27
is someone sent us to they didn't sign
29:30
it so it just arrived we don't even
29:34
know maybe aspark themselves they should
29:38
after all the publicity we've given
29:41
them yeah nobody heard of this car until
29:43
started yes really really making fun of
29:46
it um gratefully so yeah okay felipo
29:48
what's your uh topic for us today you my
29:50
topic was added by not me and it just
29:52
reads will I ever buy a car will I ever
29:54
buy a car and the answer is of course I
29:56
have bought several vehicles in the past
29:57
and I will continue to in the future
30:00
it's been a while though like you know
30:01
it's been a year and a half yeah and
30:03
you've been talking I've been talking a
30:04
lot of talk look lot of talk I want a C7
30:08
Corvette I don't want to spend money and
30:10
therefore I have not bought a car but
30:12
that's what it amounts to why won't you
30:14
look at a car purchase as total cost of
30:15
ownership like I do why do you have to
30:17
look at it like you spent money are you
30:19
just so afraid of the opportunity cost
30:21
of course what are you doing with the
30:23
of saving it it it is stored under my
30:27
mattress as all sane people do it's all
30:29
Italian that's how Italians save money
30:31
they don't trust the banks they don't
30:33
trust the stock market for good reason
30:34
no that is not where my money actually
30:36
is do not rob my house to get the cash
30:37
not existent um I here's the thing there
30:40
the true total cost of ownership is not
30:43
you won't make money buy a normal car I
30:45
know but you won't lose much you lose
30:47
some though but fipo life is worth
30:52
it God he is such a I think this is one
30:55
of the reasons why filipo likes me
30:56
despite the fact that like objectively
30:58
he shouldn't is that like I am someone
31:01
who actually does some of the things
31:02
that he and he like it's like oh huh
31:06
interesting that's that's that would be
31:07
cool but then he doesn't pursue the
31:09
doing of the thing I I have spent let me
31:11
tell you guys how much I've spent on
31:12
cars in the past bought a car for a
31:13
dollar other car I bought go order for
31:23
27,50 uh and then 11,000 but you were so
31:27
there there's one outlier there and I
31:28
can't quite cross the outlier I had a
31:30
lot I I had a hard time crossing the 40
31:32
Grand Mark for a long time I'm having a
31:34
hard time crossing any Mark the
31:35
difference for me was I was I was I had
31:37
a very hard time crossing the 40 Grand
31:38
Mark for a daily driver even still I
31:41
think that that 40 40 50 maybe with
31:42
inflation should buy you like all the
31:44
daily you need 90 80 on the score yeah
31:47
it's too much but I've started to think
31:48
of things as total cost of ownership
31:50
more but the total cost of ownership
31:51
once you include taxes once you include
31:52
Insurance once you include maintenance
31:54
is nontrivial as Kenan would say life is
31:57
worth living like what you 500 C people
32:02
die don't you want to enjoy your life
32:04
life is fragile and short I I think that
32:06
there's a good chance that in the next 3
32:09
months by let's call it the end of q1
32:13
I will have bought a vehicle but I think
32:15
there's no chance of that at all I think
32:17
I would put money against it but you can
32:19
continue living vicariously through me I
32:21
had quite a drive to work this morning
32:22
I'll tell you okay time you can come
32:26
next time time for the market report
32:28
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32:30
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you can also do it by not downloading
32:43
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32:44
download the app uh I want to talk
32:47
about I want to talk about uh the app
32:50
gives you direct access to tell fipo
32:52
what car you should buy does it it sure
32:54
does you can go to community and make a
32:55
post and then um I'll look okay I want
32:58
to talk about a few things with the
32:59
market report by way if you're selling a
33:00
a s Corvette uh z51 coupe with speed 30
33:07
knowb no no no no I I'll have you submit
33:10
but it also needs to be within like five
33:12
miles of my house so to make sure he
33:13
gets it for a deal he knows if he buys
33:15
it on the site he'll pay all the money
33:16
all right uh Kon take us away on the
33:19
e395 result today which was wild it was
33:21
great so I had I had mentioned uh in the
33:24
the portion of Felipe and I talked about
33:26
we talked about I think I mentioned it
33:26
last week too we talked about important
33:28
cars that are for sale right now and
33:30
this E39 M5 was for sale Dinan S3 which
33:33
is the supercharged version of the car
33:34
that was offered by Dinan in the early
33:36
2000s 621 horsepower real stuff and it
33:42
$17,500 I admit I hadn't clocked too
33:44
much on this and I I should have but I
33:47
now did I watched I watched the auction
33:48
end I didn't make any comments cuz I was
33:50
filming a Tahoe Z71 youah HW
33:53
GH but I was watching the auction and it
33:56
was an amazing auction to watch the
33:57
bidding war started in the 60s and just
34:00
carried 42 minutes and um but I didn't
34:04
really pay that much attention so this
34:06
dond makes performance parts but they
34:08
also made individual like cars packages
34:10
so yeah so you could do an S1 and S2 and
34:11
an S3 the S1 was not a whole lot it was
34:14
like a very light very not a whole lot
34:16
the S2 got suspension a different
34:18
differential it got real stuff but the
34:20
S3 they went the full Monte took an S2
34:22
gave it a supercharge and gave it real
34:24
power and of course like carb it stuff
34:27
was carb legal that's that was the thing
34:28
that was insane it's modded but not like
34:31
heinous like it's modded by people who
34:32
knew what they were doing and thinking
34:34
about the complete package well not only
34:35
knew what they were doing if you did the
34:37
package at the time on any of the dyam
34:38
products they would BMW to honor your
34:40
warranty like it was a bit that's how
34:42
high quality the components were and
34:43
there's a there's a relationship between
34:45
BMW and D that was very strong but these
34:48
cars were ludicrously expensive I think
34:50
it was like 75 was between $75 and
34:52
$100,000 to do this in Period more than
34:54
the cost of the car the same cost of the
34:56
car yeah like dou the cost it doubled so
34:58
75 grand on top of the 75 but I mean In
35:01
fairness it was more powerful than the
35:02
M5 that came after it so how much power
35:04
it was 621 horsepower I don't remember
35:06
how much torque 52 footb horsepower yeah
35:10
wow so this is like the Holy Grail in
35:11
the E39 M5 community it is cuz they they
35:13
made obviously due to the cost made very
35:15
few this one is number 23 they're all
35:17
they all plaques and are individually
35:18
numbered how many did they make uh I
35:20
don't remember it's not not many I don't
35:21
think many into the 30s I think the cool
35:23
thing about this car was also final
35:25
model year blue yep one owner that's an
35:28
ancient Texas plate and and it's got the
35:30
caramel interior that felipo and I love
35:32
you do love it is yeah exactly this was
35:34
this dude bought the car new and did the
35:36
dining thing new and then and then drove
35:38
it himself 78,000 miles I mean so and so
35:41
this set a record for us is the most E39
35:43
M5 we've ever sold rightfully so it's
35:45
the one and this is the second most
35:46
expensive D S3 to transact in Rec and I
35:50
will say the other one that that
35:51
transacted I'll swear a few months ago
35:53
had a third the miles a quarter of the
35:55
miles and did not sell for much more so
35:57
this is a very strong result I am proud
35:59
to say as a lover of these cars I really
36:01
do believe we are the place to sell your
36:03
E39 M5 and I think this result shows
36:04
that how many E39 m5s have we auctioned
36:06
at this point uh let's see we have sold
36:10
138 of them wow can has given us the E39
36:14
M5 the E39 M5 Kenan has giveth and the
36:18
E39 M5 has take giveth back give taketh
36:22
all my money away um it is amazing the
36:24
range of these cars the previous ones
36:26
all sold for 14 15 grand but that's a
36:27
really really really special car very
36:29
interesting amazing to watch that result
36:31
highest price one that we sold you go
36:32
highest price yeah it was the Cilla car
36:35
the yeah the 20,000 M that was 2000 this
36:39
is a cool car too the O2 with 50,000 M
36:41
for 64 that would have been and we've
36:43
sold yeah we have sold a d S2 as well um
36:47
we have another one that's coming very
36:50
short now if you want an S2 but that
36:53
blower prefers because he's a naturally
36:55
aspirated man it's the na build and it's
36:57
still made I think it was
36:59
43 more yeah cuz they got the D and
37:02
headers which are in The Ether 95
37:03
Community are gold when they come up for
37:05
sale they bring you don't have big money
37:08
I keep things stock but except for they
37:11
except for his tuned to and some other
37:13
modifications we learn about here and
37:15
there yeah every once in a while you ask
37:18
Kenn a question oh well I got right
37:21
right well nonetheless yeah but the yeah
37:23
the S2 is kind of the one to have in my
37:24
opinion it's the one to have the the S3
37:26
is if you can afford it is without
37:28
question but there SP 120 G's on e35
37:31
plus you got to find one yeah the S2s
37:32
are are really great and I'm excited
37:34
watch that result but nonetheless this
37:35
one today especially that bidding war
37:37
between two people really wanted a third
37:39
part person would like kind of like
37:40
raise their hand then those two would
37:42
just slap it down and keep going amazing
37:44
it was an incredible War well they know
37:45
it's not going to happen again it's like
37:47
M1 comes up for sale you got to buy bye
37:49
bye right xcore ycore Z send us a
37:52
message yeah you want to know about your
37:54
experience y uh okay uh filipo tell us
37:57
another yeah can you look at 997s market
38:00
report for 997s this this the 911 that
38:03
was made from 05 to 12 997s especially
38:06
early 997s yeah have started to get
38:09
really cheap click on lowest price there
38:13
okay well the the very cheapest one but
38:16
that's reent 25k few others that have
38:18
r&m between 25 and 30 cuz that market is
38:20
moving quickly but you can get a
38:23
stick early 997 high miles over 100,000
38:26
miles per sure some concerns reliability
38:28
wise but for under 30 now wow we were
38:30
all which by the way the same price as a
38:32
C7 it happened to 996 a long time ago
38:35
997s are really starting to follow suit
38:37
as 991s are starting to become cheaper
38:39
and 991es are in the high 40 for a tip
38:41
one you yeah you can get one in the high
38:44
30s if you're willing to put up with six
38:46
accidents we sold this for six for 38
38:49
there are a lot that are in the that are
38:52
sub30 I give I've been in looking
38:54
casually and there's a lot available
38:56
elsewhere too here's a question I have
38:58
if 997s are 28 what are
39:00
996s they're down I mean the 996 starts
39:03
to become it has to be cheaper than this
39:06
because the 997 is is a really more
39:08
complete car we mean we've been
39:10
selling I find 996 are back like 2020
39:13
prices which is 15 to 20 15 to 20 for
39:16
like a you know rougher one yeah it's
39:19
funny Porsche during pandemic Porsche
39:20
prices were wild everything was going
39:22
for over sticker and tar 5-year-old
39:24
targets were selling for over sticker
39:26
and all that and now all the they're all
39:28
pushing down on each other once again
39:30
and seeing 997s at 20 something I
39:33
remember when that car came out right I
39:34
mean I was like a holy crap kind of
39:35
thing I remember when 991 came out and
39:37
it's not that much more expensive than a
39:38
997 sadly manual 991 still quite High
39:41
how how high are we it
39:43
50s maybe maybe I should consider
39:45
getting a 997 you should kind you
39:48
certainly won't lose value yeah be it
39:52
can be reliable you should get a wide
39:53
996 here's here's a crazy take that
39:54
everybody's going to rather have i' have
39:57
a wide 996 than a 997 interesting really
39:59
they're an early 9 you know what's
40:01
upsetting wide 996s more expensive than
40:04
we sell wide 996 for high 20s low we
40:07
sold a really nice 996 4S the other day
40:10
uh huh okay I mean yeah no we sold the
40:14
yellow one that was like re anyway you
40:16
get the idea these are these are selling
40:17
also in the high 20s low 30s wow the
40:19
fact that I they've come out more than I
40:20
realized yeah wide 996 I said that one
40:23
that car was so nice this is 44 but this
40:25
is a really nice 6 yellow low mile
40:28
inspect do love the wide the wides yeah
40:31
and look at that plus the wide looks so
40:33
good click on that oh yeah the rear
40:34
three rears of the wide in my opinion is
40:36
one of the greatest like 911s of all I
40:38
know it's crazy to say front you can you
40:40
can have the fight but the rear it just
40:42
looks damn good you can see where the
40:45
993 came and turned into this you really
40:47
can those a transition you can
40:49
definitely see and those are some of the
40:50
great wheels of por ever did yes and I
40:52
kind of think that the 96 4S is will not
40:55
lose much more value yeah they're cool
40:57
cars uh but it's interesting that 997s
40:59
are getting into the 20s well what world
41:01
we live in I I've there are some
41:03
concerns with early 997s you still have
41:05
V Mass issues yeah mhm and there's some
41:08
other issues yeah there's some there are
41:10
some little issues but they're very
41:12
appealing lot of these cars have some
41:13
miles on them now stuff's been addressed
41:15
they're very appealing uh yeah no they
41:17
certainly are uh okay last thing I want
41:18
to discuss is the C8 Z6 and the C8 in
41:21
general type in just type in C8 let's
41:22
just let's just do it to do it keep in
41:24
mind that you're yeah we had to do it at
41:26
some point the C8 Market is changing
41:29
folks remember when Cates were like all
41:31
100 Grand I do I remember the first one
41:32
we sold in 2020 this one was been to 475
41:35
I mean they didn't sell for that but the
41:37
they're selling now in the 50s but the
41:39
Reas I wanted to pull it up and talk
41:40
about z6s specifically which are also
41:42
really really coming down if you go to
41:43
the top no no no just just scroll back
41:45
up cuz there's only a few up there no a
41:47
little just keep keep going up and down
41:50
eventually you'll get oh my God oh my
41:51
goodness clicked on a stinger oh the
41:53
point is uh the whole Corvette C8
41:55
Corvette Market is starting to really
41:57
really really change I saw some article
41:58
that came out it's like c8s are the
41:59
fastest appreciating C like well yeah
42:01
they are because they had gone to a
42:03
crazy crazy level and now they're
42:04
finally starting to come down to a more
42:06
rational number but you can already pick
42:07
Z C8 z6s up for becoming a around
42:10
sticker wow aren't they below sticker
42:13
perhaps even below and eays which are
42:15
the bargain of the whole lot I know are
42:17
also fairly affordable this is basically
42:19
new that's where it got bit to it didn't
42:21
sell but you can see where the market is
42:23
heading on all of these cars on our like
42:25
reserve setting valuation side there's
42:28
just a fall it's a free fall may I ask
42:29
you a question as a you set a reserve a
42:31
month ago and it's like well here's five
42:33
new cars that are come for sale or five
42:34
new comps that show nope that's 10 grand
42:37
too high yeah 10 grand too high may I
42:39
ask you a question as a C7 man yep um
42:44
what number does the C8 have to get down
42:46
to I'm not optimizing for performance
42:50
you were driven a CA no it's I drove an
42:52
eay from that spot right there to Trail
42:54
upstairs does that count for anything um
42:57
dude it is but you want to you want to
42:58
stick you want to stick I agree with
43:00
that as much as I love some of these
43:02
Auto cars I look at them I'm like there
43:03
is a C7 argument to be made and some of
43:05
my friends have made it to me that I
43:07
should spend way more money for a
43:09
grandport like a late Grand Sport cuz
43:11
because the c will continue to
43:13
depreciate cuz they're all automatics
43:14
they're all kind of similar they're
43:15
producing more and more and more yeah
43:17
but a very nicely speced CA Grand Sport
43:21
or C7 Grand Sport excuse me might not
43:23
depreciate the same am I think it still
43:24
will the Grand Sport had the Z6 body but
43:26
not the performance correct but it had
43:28
some like Su special upgrades and stuff
43:29
um Kenan and I would recommend getting a
43:32
C7 Z6 yeah that's kind of the one yeah
43:36
but he's not that's not that's too much
43:37
for him he wants a he wants a normal one
43:40
he yeah he just wants the pref for non-
43:43
z51 pack by the way what is it about we
43:45
should get what is it about the
43:47
C8 that makes me not no no what is it
43:50
about the t7 actually that makes you
43:51
want one it just seems like like the
43:54
Choice like like like performance for
43:57
the money drivability everyday ability
44:00
quality the interior is much nicer quity
44:03
is on par with the cost which is low
44:07
the a C6 it's it's on par though it's
44:11
acceptable it just seems like a bar and
44:12
one that I don't have to worry that much
44:14
about yeah yeah yeah interesting okay
44:17
that's fair all right that's our market
44:19
report for the day no image there's no
44:21
negative image unless you are in an old
44:23
person community it's a Corvette there's
44:26
image I I would much rather be perceived
44:29
as an old man wearing New Balances than
44:32
as like a like Wann toe rich person you
44:35
know yeah and no one will perceive you
44:36
as a want to be your person C7 true I
44:38
want to fly the radar I will say I agree
44:41
with Ken that there's an image any any
44:43
Corvette with the exception of the C2
44:46
yeah or C what is this C1 gets respect
44:49
too C2 is such a beautiful car some of
44:51
the the richest people I know I mean
44:53
it's it's a totally different world no
44:56
not necessarily I get a C2 Larry shenoda
44:58
Larry Shinoda okay we're going on to
45:00
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45:03
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45:04
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45:06
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45:08
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45:11
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45:15
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45:33
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45:36
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45:37
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45:39
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45:40
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45:41
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45:45
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45:55
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45:56
download the app you go to app at
45:58
car.com today has been just chaos okay
46:01
time for our very first question which
46:03
comes from Q Sal so it's s asking Q oh
46:07
and he says question for all three which
46:09
carcars would you buy for your kids PS
46:11
been watching it for years and I might
46:13
love you more than Kenan loves his M5
46:15
and then in parentheses Emily I never
46:17
considered that his M5 might be Emily
46:19
that's theory has been interesting
46:24
interesting okay which car would you buy
46:26
for your kids there's a simple answer
46:29
new NSX okay next question new no no
46:34
wow dang uh what car would you buy for
46:37
your kids s what is the answer the
46:39
Corolla hybrid okay kenon Civ hybrid if
46:42
you want the fastest Honda Civic I don't
46:45
gr Corolla would be pretty cool gr
46:47
Corolla for your child they will they
46:49
will rally slide 17 he's going to Rally
46:52
slide into a an M5 I mean you know
46:55
people yeah but Ryan is like fastidious
46:57
have you met filipo when he was a kid
46:58
you know drove it into an
47:00
emban there you go that's right and you
47:02
crashed into a teacher you you almost
47:05
paralyzed and I bought my own car at
47:07
that stage that wasn't my first car he
47:10
paralyzed think the real low speed
47:13
impact at like but if it had been mil
47:15
hour that' faster right if it had been
47:18
that that uh simulator that you love we
47:20
just speed it up to Infinity yeah could
47:23
it almost happened if you had pressed
47:25
the accelerator many miles earlier all
47:28
the way down you could have paralyzed if
47:29
I hit the Brak sooner yeah so wait your
47:31
answer is a gr Corolla his answer is a
47:33
Corolla hybrid or a Civic Hybrid I don't
47:35
or just whatever car you
47:38
have your your teenager doesn't need a
47:40
new car the answer is you get them a
47:42
Ford Fusion Energy or a c energy no no
47:48
ridiculous you get a for Fus and it'll
47:52
teach them you know what the Fusion
47:54
Energy teaches them not only teaches
47:55
them how to fill a car with gas but how
47:57
to plug one in are you at all worried
48:00
that they'll be they'll only learn how
48:02
to twist a knob and no other ways to put
48:03
a car in Drive interesting interesting
48:06
conc then you also need to teach them in
48:08
a regular car how to drive and then you
48:10
let them lose with the Fusion Energy
48:12
like all right if you want your child to
48:14
have a manual transmission at the first
48:16
car they text drive you want to answer
48:18
this question scroll through the site
48:19
I'll I'll say hit when it's when it's
48:21
time for your kid's first car n none of
48:23
these none of these actually I would
48:25
consider an E60 of some kind no no that
48:27
engine's unreliable D keep going keep
48:30
going come on come on 33 I'm not opposed
48:32
to an LS 460 keep going it's big but
48:34
it's safe GT G no too too fast and Zippy
48:38
they'll they'll they'll kill their
48:39
friends uh boy you give them a QP really
48:42
ruin their lives but or too much SP
48:46
Focus N2 Focus Sal n2o that's good cuz
48:49
it's probably pretty slow but it looks
48:51
cool as hell maybe the carer car hauler
48:53
and you really teach him a few things I
48:55
haven't found a perfect one yet 335d is
48:59
a really good good range they were all
49:02
automatics they can run away from home
49:03
too easily they can go their boyfriend
49:06
across T they got across the country
49:08
three tanks of gas too easy okay fine
49:10
fine fine uh what else
49:13
no no S4 is a little too quick but it
49:15
would be these are too good steak all
49:18
Road no no Blazer Silverado maybe a V60
49:21
but not a poar how about that how about
49:23
a V60 not a cheap V60 what that body V60
49:27
what are they cost used six so like for
49:30
like just a random one you find on T5 10
49:33
10 that's the answer V60 I actually 100%
49:36
agree buy your child of V60 yep okay
49:39
next question from Big ultimate hitter 6
49:41
a common question asker in a fictional
49:43
world where animals could drive cars
49:44
what car would noodle drive I have an
49:46
answer for this uh oh huh noodle hates
49:50
noise hates noise he would drive an eqs
49:53
no he's not a luxury dog I know but he
49:56
isolated he is and he needs to be
49:58
isolated from the world he's driving
50:00
around he's not a luxury dog he drives
50:02
around you want to crash anytime There's
50:04
a garbage truck nearby no you want to be
50:05
isolated from the I think he'd be in
50:07
like a prologue cuz he wouldn't know any
50:08
better and he doesn't care he needs
50:10
quiet and and and protection from the
50:13
outside world I don't think
50:15
he I think he'd be like no plus The
50:18
Styling would be too much for him he's a
50:20
slightly anxious dog he he would want I
50:22
think he'd be in a prolog what about
50:24
like an an eqe I will tell you this he
50:26
hates all my fun cars I pick him up from
50:28
daycare and like the for GT and he's
50:29
like H but didn't you at one point you
50:31
just see it I thought he liked
50:34
V8 uh no I just think he really hates
50:37
diesels but I think he because it's too
50:39
loud so he would love electric he that's
50:41
what I'm saying prologue he's in a
50:42
prologue no but he wants an El with like
50:44
triple pain glass yeah but he he would
50:47
not he wouldn't do that he's just not a
50:48
luxury dog he'd be so fur just as he is
50:51
now a luxury dog if talking about as a
50:55
group later next question from Auto blog
50:57
what is your biggest Automotive pet
51:00
peeve oh uh I got a bunch I mine is when
51:04
people say stuff that is stupid and you
51:07
kind of have to let it go like what the
51:09
you this car is insurance only for this
51:11
car is back SE ins insurance
51:15
purposes there's a lot of those there
51:17
are yeah there are a lot of myths that
51:19
have just like for whatever reason
51:21
sunken into people's Consciousness and
51:22
they just gurgitate and never fact check
51:24
constantly hear them and I always have
51:27
to be nicer but I'm people say stuff
51:28
like that and I'm like oh yeah
51:30
actually no I never correct people ever
51:33
so if you ever say something to me when
51:34
you see me on the street it could be
51:35
totally wrong be like yeah but but you
51:38
know but you know in your mind you're
51:40
like how do I get out of it how do I get
51:41
out well was great to see you nice to
51:43
meet you thank you yeah other what are
51:45
other Automotive pet peeves fipo I'm
51:47
trying to think I'm not easily
51:50
bothered well you're just bothered by
51:52
car culture I do hate car culture
51:54
passion people we we we designed cities
51:57
for cars and that's stupid people likes
52:00
to walk around walkability and
52:03
bikeability and mass transit are very
52:05
important I hear so many BS things that
52:07
people say now that I think about it you
52:09
you you can't you can't drive a
52:11
right-hand Drive in America it's illegal
52:12
there's so many things you as you go
52:14
through it and hear all you know okay I
52:15
have an actual pet peeve that's related
52:18
that I find it very annoying when people
52:20
import a car illegally and then try to
52:23
sell it and claim oh it has a title it's
52:24
all fine no that's not the concern yes
52:29
illegal carset peeve of mine murderer is
52:34
another pet peeve we are aware that that
52:37
you are like sure just because you got
52:39
that car titled cuz that one DMV clerk
52:41
let you it in Florida doesn't mean that
52:44
that car is legal I do have when I used
52:46
to do intake which was the first like 18
52:47
months of this business intake being all
52:49
the cars that are submitted to cars and
52:50
bids by people some there were an
52:53
enormous number of pet peeves here's a
52:55
big one here's a big one cars have been
52:57
hit okay Carfax has an accident you to
53:00
tell them oh it was only a minor parking
53:02
lot thing no problem not a big deal at
53:04
all meanwhile they're buying oh my God
53:06
it has a bad Carfax I want $20,000 off
53:10
and it's like hypocrisies so annoying
53:14
that's one um I mean like it's kind of
53:17
specific to because of business we
53:18
working but when people cover up their
53:21
license plates with towels instead of
53:23
taking them off of the damn you cover up
53:24
your license plate with a towel I just
53:26
watched regular car reviews is doing all
53:28
these uh reels right now and one of his
53:30
was if you cover up your license plate
53:32
with a towel you don't change your oil
53:34
and I totally agree with that you cover
53:36
up your license plit with a towel or
53:37
with your thumb it simply suggests to me
53:39
that you are a lazy person and you were
53:41
lazy about your car you were lazy owning
53:43
it you were lazy maintaining it you were
53:45
lazy keeping it and my big thing with
53:47
buying a car is you're not buying the
53:48
car you're buying the seller and if the
53:50
seller can't get a screw driver and
53:53
unscrew a license do you know how long
53:55
that takes you know your Li is visible
53:57
every single time the I've got my
53:59
license plates in every one of my
54:00
Instagram things I don't care but but
54:03
meanwhile if you want to take your plate
54:05
off whatever fine but like your thumb
54:07
you're a loser that car is worth eight
54:09
grand less if you put your thumb over it
54:10
and if it's $5,000 car you got to pay me
54:13
three grand to take the car I'm going to
54:15
hit you with a low ball so hard it's
54:17
going to knock you in next sir I see
54:19
that you've put a thumb over the license
54:20
plate will you pay me $3,000 to take
54:23
your car that is my low
54:26
ball yeah that that one sticks in my
54:28
mind uh yeah there are some
54:31
modifications too that I just can't I'm
54:33
not even going to get into cuz I can't
54:34
wrap my head stripes on a another
54:37
another good example of that I mean it's
54:39
just it's just just deep that that kind
54:42
of thing yeah that kind that is a big
54:43
Automotive tremendous losers who do that
54:45
yeah another good example is uh yellow
54:48
manual convertible it's one of one with
54:51
air conditioning it's not just Corvette
54:53
people but Corvette people people do it
54:56
because those numbers are easy to find
54:59
Chevrolet like publishes them and
55:02
Chrysler does too and so you can do that
55:04
but anybody who does that it's the only
55:06
one that's this that this that it's like
55:08
I don't care but is is that does that
55:10
reach the point of a pet peeve does that
55:11
annoy you or is it just a no I laugh
55:14
here's one when people spell Aztec with
55:15
a c that really annoys me it's with a K
55:18
and everyone makes this
55:20
mistake yep okay next question from
56:25
kinara question for Doug I've been
56:27
looking at the dou score spreadsheet
56:28
I've noticed not a single car is scored
56:29
a 50 out of 50 in either weekend or
56:31
daily car category so what do you think
56:32
can get a 50 score in each category I
56:34
think about this a lot and I don't think
56:36
that it's realistically possible
56:38
certainly you could never get a 50 for
56:40
both um 50 in one would be really really
56:43
hard some cars have a 49 and and fall
56:45
short on styling that's usually the
56:47
thing that trips off super cars several
56:50
49s uh but but their styling score is a
56:55
little bit off oh wait Ferrari dayona
56:56
sp3 has a 50 in weekend it just hasn't
56:58
been updated yet far Daytona sp3 has a
57:00
50 in weekend 10 out of 10 for styling
57:02
acceleration handling fun factor and
57:04
cool Factor Daytona sp3 P3 the greatest
57:08
F50 uh other than that 50s are hard hard
57:11
to achieve in Daily because some of the
57:13
stuff is kind of a trade-off it would be
57:14
hard to get a 10 in features Comfort
57:16
quality and practicality and still get a
57:18
10 in value because if you get the only
57:20
cars that have like tens in features are
57:22
some of the highest end luxury cars and
57:24
then they usually are not a great value
57:26
what does the E63 wagon have uh High 4S
57:29
the wagons do really really well like
57:31
the RS6 an E63 wagon the 18 E6 the 21
57:34
E63 wagon has a 37 it's got a nine in
57:37
features seven in Comfort seven qu the
57:39
other problem is those kinds of cars
57:41
they start to sacrifice a little bit of
57:42
comfort usually for their performance
57:45
etc etc it's very hard to do that I
57:47
don't I don't know that it's even
57:48
possible to get a full 50 in da weekend
57:50
the sp3 yeah this question theorizes
57:52
that an ital design Columbus could get a
57:53
fit in the daily category
57:55
no no no it's too expensive could it get
57:58
40 right they won't sell it they won't
58:00
sell it part of their Heritage T and
58:02
then a zero on value I I listen I don't
58:04
want to make fun of a t design although
58:06
you know what we found out the other day
58:08
here's a crazy thing for you pin in
58:10
finina yeah the most famous company in
58:14
Italia one of them pin in Farina sold to
58:19
the Mahindra group in 2015 they bought
58:21
76% of it for 170 million euro that's it
58:24
huh so 76% for1 170 million EUR values
58:27
the whole company like $220 million so
58:29
what's a t what's a Columbus cost well
58:31
if pin and finina sells as a company for
58:33
220 million you got to figure a to
58:35
design is way cheaper could I go buy a
58:36
towel design for 100 million than I'd
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have my Columbus there's your answer I
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bet it's less it's probably
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I think they would entertain many offers
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okay next question next question from
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first gen Nissan Juke hater there's only
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one gen that's not true there's a new
58:50
Nissan Juke not America ah what concept
58:54
car would you wish to have made it
58:55
production and what car other than the
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first gen Juke should have stayed as
58:58
concept I love the first J I don't same
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um K of car was production so many so
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um Cadillac 16 um the CN the CN so we
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can just look at it for the rest of the
59:10
pod yeah just just pull it up and leave
59:12
it up was it spell c i right yeah and
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just leave it up and let's just let it
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be yep dang yep so cool well I am happy
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zoom in and just like let it sit there
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that's the answer no other answers yeah
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that is so cool I mean you can say one
59:27
if you want oh I don't have one they're
59:28
still my name look at that imagine if
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they had done it what was the Maybach um
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accelero the accelero would be that was
59:35
cool too yeah that would be a good I
59:36
never got as into the me412 as some
59:38
people the Chrysler I didn't think it
59:39
looked good but this this is if I had
59:43
this I wouldn't talk to fipo anymore you
59:45
really you know you can get somewhat
59:47
close with an XL RV it is cool how much
59:49
of it made it into the XLR
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though this had a Northstar V16 they put
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two Northstar V8s together and then they
59:59
just let things happen Ken unless you
00:01
might buy an xrv and just just put
00:03
double the engine and then put it in the
00:05
back how hard can it be I'm going to
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posit that I honestly and truly think it
00:09
was a mistake that they didn't make this
00:10
car I think that was desper was and
00:12
still is desperately trying to like get
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their status to a level that's
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equivalent to BMW Mercedes Audi Etc Audi
00:18
shows up at the R8 and suddenly they
00:20
people care about them if Cadillac had
00:23
done this and then come out with all the
00:24
V cars and then come out with like a
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good Escalade and people would be like
00:28
damn Cadillac is real yeah instead you'd
00:31
see this around people would freak you'd
00:33
freak if you saw I would freak if I saw
00:34
this around um can we talk about C for a
00:36
second uh okay can you go uh to Carson
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bits and pull up CTS sorry ct5v oh yeah
00:43
cuz we got a nice Blackwing on this we
00:44
do but that's not the point that's a
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Cadillac ct5v Blackwing right it has 668
00:49
horsepower supercharg v8 yeah do you
00:50
have idea how much power the regular cd5
00:52
V has no how much click on it which we
00:54
sold one yesterday today for 30 grand
00:56
how much 360 yeah what's your I I this
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is equivalent to an m340i to a C300
01:06
probably yeah why did they call it V I I
01:09
I think it like they really degrad the V
01:12
and I find to be like vsport existed the
01:15
prior gen the CTS had a vsport the Black
01:18
Wing should have been the ct5 v v and
01:20
they could have called it black wi if
01:21
you want whatever but like there's such
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a huge there's a $70,000 price
01:26
difference it's laughable I totally
01:28
agree it was a huge mistake but this is
01:30
General Motors General Motors gets 80%
01:32
of things right 100% of the time like I
01:35
I I am always in awe of their ability to
01:37
just screw something up just but at
01:40
least they gave give us a really good
01:42
car here and the least they made a
01:43
Corvette go 233 mph 233 mph Corvette
01:47
that's pretty cool and the black R next
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question last question last question
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last question last question from IND
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can hey guys if you had to pick one car
01:58
that you previously owned to still be in
01:59
your garage what would it be and why
02:04
kenon um well 525 no that's what he's
02:08
say you know I cuz I really would love
02:11
to have a nice like a simple daily that
02:13
I didn't have to care about I really
02:14
loved my E46 330xi it was so nice it
02:17
just drove great no it was manual i' was
02:20
it a tip I've never had an automatic car
02:22
I've only had manual cars yeah well not
02:26
mine it was manual was topan blue Ryan
02:29
and I both had that car I just love
02:31
driving it you know I love about that
02:34
wheels no not not mine I know what you
02:38
mean mine all the XIs had it you
02:40
probably had a contented one I it was
02:43
lovely can you pull the CN back up um so
02:46
you wanton an E46 3 series I mean this
02:48
was the other car that popped mine but
02:50
it was so painful to own I do miss when
02:52
it was great I do like I been think I
02:55
had a dream the other night that I was
02:56
driving it again um but I don't want to
02:58
I don't want to I can't deal with can I
03:01
tell you something the
03:03
E46 is now legal to import from Europe
03:06
and what you could do is get a 99
03:09
316d what a dream and have hubcaps crank
03:11
windows I would love that and 100
03:13
horsepower and the E46 yeah or I could
03:16
get what I really could get was is the
03:17
compact with the weird headl get the
03:19
compact with the bad headlights totally
03:22
that would be cool with S4 swap that
03:23
would be get one of those if you do that
03:25
I'll front you 500 bucks for your for
03:27
your oh thank you generous Sean 500 cuz
03:29
I told him I'd help him out with this
03:31
Ferrari you're own a lot of people FIP
03:34
you got any of these you wish you had I
03:36
for about a year I owned a manual e53 X5
03:39
so first gen X5 yeah and it just such a
03:41
I was in front of one yesterday and it's
03:43
such a goodlooking car I think it's the
03:45
best good SUV years old that is such a
03:48
nice looking it's the best looking SUV
03:49
yep mine was great I should have kept it
03:51
but we we're moving from North Carolina
03:53
to here it didn't make sense y also had
03:54
a lot of issues but it's such a
03:58
gorgeous I don't even blame him it's
04:00
such a gorgeous car and I I think it's
04:01
the best of the SUVs I don't disagree uh
04:04
you had a rough one they were all rough
04:07
the 3 l was a good motor you both set a
04:09
3 l that same 3 L engine power 54 is one
04:12
of BMW's great engines reliable smooth
04:15
it wasn't power powerful it was 225
04:17
horse but it was good but it was it was
04:19
enough lar it was nice it was smooth
04:21
totally it was very reliable a lot of
04:23
those 3 l BMWs are still on the road and
04:24
you see a lot of other later and earlier
04:26
ones long gone and the three lers live
04:29
on yep the s54 might be the most
04:31
exciting naal Sr 600 L but the M54 is
04:35
the best they ever did yeah uh the
04:37
answer for me is none when I sell my
04:39
cars I am done with them
04:41
goodbye you wanted me to say my Viper I
04:44
don't I certainly didn't want you to say
04:46
your viper over some of those cars you
04:47
you think whis it's like I Wish I Still
04:49
one time pulled up next to you with a
04:52
for sale sign you'd buy it it's carved I
04:54
don't have room I don't want to deal
04:55
with it one time fleo and I broke down
04:57
in my Viper on the on-ramp to my parking
04:59
garage and we blocked everyone from
05:01
getting into the parking garage we broke
05:03
down and it was just a dead battery but
05:04
we had to sit there and charge the
05:05
battery and there's like eight cars
05:07
behind remember this it wasn't me I will
05:09
you weren't there no I could have sworn
05:11
that was you you did a lot of dumb stuff
05:12
with me in my Viper I'm glad it's gone
05:15
it was lovely but I'm glad it's gone
05:18
look any of car that I previously owned
05:19
I could buy again and I and I don't
05:21
because no matter how much I like them
05:25
on that's the way it works that's the
05:27
way it works certainly wouldn't get
05:28
another frog I'll tell you that
05:31
uh that's the Ferrari 360 for those of
05:34
you who are confused we think it looks
05:35
like a tree frog which it does or a
05:38
regular ground frog I don't no it's a
05:41
right all right that's all for this car
05:44
pod thank God uh this is our best ever
05:46
episode I think of course and we have an
05:48
app so that we have an app and we talk
05:50
about Cadillac CN and I think we should
05:52
talk about both those things in every
05:53
episode I think we can do that and ask
05:54
for the owl says meow what does owl
05:59
say like the car do you think when the
06:03
goes that would be if it existed I think
06:06
they should do that should do I recently
06:07
said to a friend that it recharges but
06:09
it also hunts for prey in small Fields
06:10
cuz that's that's that's what it does
06:12
just small pray in Big Field what it
06:13
does that's what it real does yep uh
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goodbye everyone thank you so much for
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paying attention and participating and
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watching and send us questions we want
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to hear from you we do goodbye