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Welcome to Car Stuff,
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Welcome to Car Stuff Folks
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thanks for tuning in.
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I am one of your host, Ben Bowlin.
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And I am Kurt Garin.
01:48
And, like many of us
01:50
now in the world today,
01:52
Kurt and I are recording remotely
01:55
from our separate bunkers,
01:58
our good pal, the Walter White to my Jesse Pinkman,
02:02
Scott Benjamin, couldn't make it today,
02:04
but as well, and sends his regards.
02:07
Kurt, I want to check in before we get started.
02:09
How are you doing, man?
02:11
How long have you been in this lockdown stage?
02:15
Um, I guess about three, three and a half weeks now?
02:18
I've been well, though.
02:20
Um, just hanging in there,
02:22
like many people out there.
02:23
How about you, Ben?
02:24
I've been, you know,
02:25
I've been doing pretty well.
02:28
I've actually taken the habit
02:30
of just getting out on the road,
02:32
just to get out of the house, you know.
02:35
I don't really have a reason to go anywhere.
02:39
because I'm stocked up on everything I could need,
02:42
but I've always loved road trips.
02:44
I finally got a reliable vehicle
02:47
before all this stuff went down.
02:49
And so, uh, for anyone familiar with the Atlanta area,
02:53
our fair metropolis usually has terrible, terrible traffic.
02:57
And I have been driving around 285,
03:01
which is an interstate that encircles Atlanta.
03:05
I've just been driving around it.
03:07
And it's a, it's a great drive, dude,
03:09
because there's never any traffic now.
03:11
It used to be notoriously busy and choked up.
03:15
Uh, and now you can just zoom on by.
03:19
I would say, I feel like we do have to point out.
03:22
If you are listening and you're in an area
03:25
where you have been told that you cannot take any, uh,
03:29
non-essential trips,
03:31
then please abide by that to the best of your ability.
03:35
Uh, but I haven't been stopped by anybody.
03:37
You know, I haven't been like hot rotting or redlining anywhere,
03:41
but it's good to get out there in nature.
03:44
I mean, I don't know if you, if you all had been going on any hikes or anything.
03:48
Oh, yeah, it's been very important for me at least for my sanity,
03:52
to get out there and enjoy some of the spring weather,
03:56
which I love so much, um,
03:58
but running in my neighborhood and going all walks
04:02
and, uh, just trying to stay away from those purpose-built paths
04:06
because I hear that people are all over those these days for some reason.
04:10
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's, uh, it's real strange, you know.
04:13
I think I think we're learning just how much of a toll cabin fever can take on people.
04:19
But as many folks have said, not just in our country,
04:24
but abroad in Australia, in Europe, in Asia,
04:29
every country that's dealing with this current COVID-19 pandemic.
04:34
I said this at some point. We're all in this together
04:37
and this got you and I thinking about some tremendously impressive acts,
04:42
both in the current day and in the past.
04:46
So it occurred a little while ago off air.
04:48
You and I were, uh, we're just kicking around ideas,
04:52
just shooting the breeze and we started talking about how,
04:56
I believe our conversation started when we were talking about how Tesla,
05:00
the electric car company run by Elon Musk,
05:04
had pledged to start building ventilators to help with hospitals
05:09
that were in short supply and to help patients who needed these medical devices
05:16
so that they could get over the hump of infection,
05:19
which can be, you know, can be quite dangerous.
05:22
But a medical ventilator is something that you wouldn't really expect a car company to build,
05:30
even one that's a little bit more sci-fi like Elon Musk, you know,
05:34
because he's known for his crazy sci-fi ideas.
05:36
Yeah, and let's rewind several weeks ago when this thing was ramping up in the United States
05:43
and Elon Musk came out on Twitter and said the coronavirus panic is dumb.
05:48
That kind of rubbed people the wrong way.
05:51
Perhaps what he was saying was that panic isn't necessarily a productive reaction.
05:59
So what he has decided to do is to use some of the minds he has working for him at Tesla
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to create ventilators that hospitals can use,
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because there is a high likelihood that as this virus progresses,
06:13
that there will be a need for ventilators throughout the country.
06:18
He has also been buying machines from other places where he can.
06:22
He's been buying a less intrusive type ventilator known as a BPAP machine
06:27
and Dotters in New York at Mount Sinai have been able to come up with a way
06:33
to turn these into fully fledged ventilators.
06:36
They put out a 15-page instruction manual,
06:39
and now other hospitals can use that manual to convert these types of machines
06:45
over to full-on ventilators as well.
06:49
So all of this problem-solving and ingenuity is really exciting
06:55
in a time when there's not a lot of excitement to be had.
06:59
So I guess it can be said that Elon Musk is not panicking
07:03
and he's doing what he can to try to help.
07:09
This is something that I was interested in because not being a doctor,
07:15
not being a maker of ventilators myself.
07:18
I, like many people, was hearing this word thrown around on the news
07:22
and I didn't know what a ventilator was.
07:25
And at first, I didn't understand other than having a factory.
07:30
I didn't understand what Tesla could be doing to create these machines.
07:36
But then once you learn what a ventilator is,
07:39
it makes a little more sense.
07:41
So a ventilator is a machine that provides mechanical ventilation.
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It moves breathable air in and out of human lungs.
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So it essentially, it breathes for you if you are unable to breathe
07:58
or if you can't breathe well enough on your own.
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So instantly we can see how this could literally be a life-saving device for people.
08:06
Now Tesla at this point, as far as we can tell,
08:09
their engineers have just made a prototype ventilator.
08:13
But the cool thing, the really impressive thing,
08:16
is that this ventilator mainly uses car parts,
08:20
mainly uses things they were already using,
08:24
like the Tesla model's infotainment system.
08:27
That's what controls the ventilator,
08:29
the Model 3 touch screen and controllers.
08:33
That's also what you use as an interface and the oxygen and air mixing.
08:38
You know, that's something that cars need to do too.
08:41
So it makes way more sense than you might think initially.
08:45
And there's this pretty great YouTube video that walks through it
08:49
that shows Elon Musk and the Tesla engineers talking about
08:53
what they're using and how they're assembling these things
08:57
to make working ventilators.
09:00
Again, they don't have the hundreds of thousands of these out now,
09:03
but the proof of concept is impressive, I would say.
09:07
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
09:09
And like you, and I'm sure many out there can relate to this.
09:13
But the terms of the day seemed to be changing a month or two ago.
09:18
I had no desire to learn what a ventilator was.
09:22
And I didn't know what PPE stood for.
09:26
I didn't know what herd immunity was.
09:29
But now as we become more immersed in this world of a pandemic,
09:35
we are becoming more familiar with these types of medical terms and devices.
09:41
And so I sketched out based on Tesla's description of what their ventilator is,
09:45
kind of how the air flows down the line.
09:48
So you have oxygen that comes in through a hospital air supply.
09:52
That goes into a mixing chamber, which is a car part that Tesla has on hand.
09:57
And then the air flows into a valve body that controls the air pressure.
10:03
And then it flows through some sensors to get, I guess,
10:06
determine the mixture and the pressure of the air.
10:09
Then it goes through a filter before it goes into the patient's lung.
10:13
And then when the carbon dioxide and air exits the lung,
10:18
it goes through some more sensors.
10:20
And then to an exhale valve that throttles the pressure on the patient's lung.
10:24
Now, all of this got me wondering about Tesla's credentials as far as,
10:31
like, can they make these precise medical devices?
10:34
But then I thought about how they are a company that shot one of their cars into space on a rocket.
10:39
And they routinely return those rockets back to Earth,
10:43
landing them on a pad in the middle of the ocean.
10:46
So I suppose that they could probably find their way around the ventilator.
10:51
That's a really, really great perspective, man.
10:54
That's what I didn't think about.
10:56
Because I have given Elon Musk his fair share of guff in the past and in past episodes of car stuff,
11:03
because there have been times where he's been a real shoot for the stars,
11:08
landing the clouds kind of guy with his approach to things.
11:11
But he's definitely a visionary and you're right.
11:14
They did put a rocket into space, so hopefully they can put some air into lungs.
11:18
What also interests you and I both about this and what we hope interests you listeners
11:23
is that this is not the first time we have seen the auto industry do what's called a pivot, right?
11:32
Tesla is just one example of some stuff we'll talk about in a few minutes.
11:36
But we have to point out that this is not a new strategy.
11:42
It is an extreme strategy, but the idea that an enormous auto manufacturer might be able to change their product
11:52
to help for a greater good is a pretty old idea.
11:57
As a matter of fact, if you look back to the era of World War II,
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here are the United States.
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The US manufacturing of automobiles virtually halted from February 1942 to October 1945.
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They weren't making cars or trucks or semis or auto parts.
12:18
As a matter of fact, they weren't doing this on their own initiative.
12:22
At first, the government had put in a freeze on this,
12:28
the office of production management on January 1, 1942.
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They said every sale of every vehicle is going to be frozen.
12:38
And we're going to go on a case-by-case basis for people or entities that can had a contract
12:45
for delivery of a vehicle.
12:47
If they had signed that contract before January 1,
12:50
we'll go case-by-case to see if they can be delivered.
12:55
And this is interesting.
12:56
It ties into something else, the Office of Production Management, right?
13:01
That was pre-existing.
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But in 1942, President Roosevelt creates something called the War Production Board.
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And for anyone who has nightmares of big government overreach,
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this is a crazy story.
13:16
Here's what they did.
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The War Production Board regulated all industrial production
13:23
and all allocation of resources or fuel that could be considered war material.
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So they would coordinate heavy manufacturing.
13:32
They would also have a very high level of control over things like metal, rubber, oil,
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and they even put in wage and price control.
13:42
So when all the manufacturers in the U.S.
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ended their production of automobiles there in February 22, 1942,
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they didn't just mothball the factories.
13:55
They started working on other things.
13:59
And they started working on things that, I guess, the best way to say it,
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in most cases, they were building things you could not buy at your local dealership, right?
14:08
I mean, you have to put in a little bit of perspective, too.
14:11
So you have World War I.
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That was the war to end all wars.
14:15
After that, you have the Great Depression.
14:18
The U.S. military was 12th largest behind Brazil, shortly before World War II,
14:24
and it had the 18th largest air force, which the air force was, you know, hugely important
14:29
in this overseas battle here on two different fronts, World War II.
14:35
The Dotto industry, they made, you know, airplanes, bombs, torpedoes, helmets, tanks,
14:42
jeeps, you know, that sort of thing, stuff that's more in their wheelhouse.
14:46
And then one of the famous examples would be Henry Ford's Willow Run Plant.
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It was in Ipsilani, Michigan.
14:56
Willow Run also developed this nickname Will It Run in the press,
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because it had some issues getting up and running.
15:03
But it was an airplane manufacturing plant that manufactured the B-24 Liberator,
15:08
the long-range bomber, and it got to the point where it could produce almost one per hour.
15:14
And Henry Ford was behind all of that kind of employed his assembly line techniques
15:19
to plane manufacturing, and they pre-manufactured a lot of parts for the plane.
15:23
And they had a crazy timeline, right?
15:25
Ground was broken in April 18th of 1941.
15:29
The building was dedicated in June 16th, 1941.
15:32
They started making planes later that year.
15:35
It took them a little while to get up the full capacity on this.
15:38
As you can imagine, there's a lot of, you know, planning and things like that.
15:42
They were working with consolidated aircraft.
15:44
They were the company designed the plane.
15:47
Henry Ford had engineers working out in California as well.
15:50
They produced five miles of drawings per day.
15:53
So 30,000 drawings in total.
15:56
And by the time they made it back to consolidated 10,000 of those drawings were obsolete.
16:02
And apparently consolidated also had some reworks along the way.
16:06
So they would be calling up Willow Run from time to time,
16:09
redirecting the plant to do things a certain way.
16:12
Because also with these airplanes came some quality control issues.
16:16
However, the mere fact they were able to switch over relatively quickly
16:21
and make these gigantic airplanes on the scale that they did is very impressive.
16:26
Despite some of the issues they had with manufacturing along the way.
16:31
It's tough to really convey the enormity of the change here,
16:38
both in terms of speed and in terms of scale.
16:42
So in April of 1942, while Willow Run is in action,
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these different representatives from the auto industry here in the States
16:52
form something they call the automotive council for war production.
16:57
And the idea here was that these companies, these private manufacturers
17:02
who are usually competing with each other year over year, quarter over quarter,
17:07
they need to learn a new game.
17:10
They need to figure out how they're going to share things with their former rivals.
17:16
You know, who knows how to build this component best.
17:20
It's not something maybe we would advertise to the public,
17:24
but we all kind of, you know, behind the scenes,
17:27
we all know who makes the best version of this part.
17:30
Who has the best ability to mobilize their manpower?
17:33
Who has the best line on things like steel and so on?
17:38
Who can we work with?
17:41
And they had to do this.
17:44
This would not have happened without this extraordinary level of cooperation.
17:49
I mean, just think about it, almost like within days,
17:53
maybe a week or so after production of all automobiles officially ceases,
17:59
these factories are retooled at a frenetic rate.
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You know, these gigantic manufacturing machines have to be like literally jackhammered out of the concrete.
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And then you have to bring in these other equally huge machines to replace them.
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You got to strip all the conveyor belts.
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You got to take all the electrical wires you had hooked up,
18:19
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And then even if they had parts that were not all the way finished,
20:55
that were still in the stage of fabrication, they would be stopped,
21:00
of course, that fabrication process or that assembly process.
21:03
And these parts would be shipped off the steel mills,
21:07
and the steel mills would re-melt the parts.
21:10
And the thing that really got me is, you know,
21:14
one of the biggest components of manufacturing is going to be the die that you use
21:21
to fabricate auto parts.
21:23
At some point, they decided that they would even take the die they had used
21:27
and they would send those to salvage to help with the war effort,
21:31
which means that they were adding so much extra time
21:35
onto whatever their process would be to become car manufacturers again.
21:40
They went all in, it was nuts.
21:43
Oh, by the way, around this time, the government sets a national speed limit
21:48
of 35 miles per hour.
21:51
Ah, yes, the victory speed limit.
21:53
So the government instituted this between May of 1942 and August of 1945
21:59
to reduce gasoline and rubber consumption.
22:02
And they were also only selling cars out of the stockpile of pre-42 production
22:08
to essential drivers during that time as well from 42 to 45.
22:13
So it's interesting to think about how the country completely shifted
22:18
during that time, even if you weren't in the military at war,
22:25
Like the landscape basically changed.
22:27
You know, giant factories were being converted or even constructed
22:31
and all this on the heels of the Great Depression.
22:34
People at home begin to see things start moving again
22:38
and progressing forward in a way that they hadn't seen in years
22:42
and maybe for a lifetime.
22:45
Like you said, machines being ripped out of the floor and new machines
22:48
being placed into factories used to build cars now they're building airplanes
22:52
which you would think you would need a whole new building to go from cars to airplanes.
22:57
Like in many cases I believe that's exactly what they did.
23:00
You need a lot of space to roll a plane down an assembly line.
23:04
Oh, I might imagine, right?
23:06
It's interesting because we have a lot of historical sources
23:11
that focus on the big three during World War II.
23:16
But we have to remember there are like nine other auto makers
23:23
Yeah, like Nash and Studebaker?
23:27
So we've got Bantam, Packard, Studebaker,
23:31
Willie's Overland, Grand Page, Hudson, Nash,
23:36
Kelvinator, Crossley.
23:38
I mean, what we're saying is that everybody made their contributions.
23:43
Now, of course, the luminary himself, Henry Ford, played a massive role here.
23:50
But what's surprising about this, I'd like to kick some numbers for everybody in the audience here.
23:55
When it was all said and done, the US auto industry alone,
24:00
just the car makers of this country created 20% of the total US output
24:07
of manufacturing to fight in World War II, 20%.
24:12
And the total value we would say of the things they made,
24:19
is like well over $29 billion.
24:24
I guess that would be what they call the military industrial complex
24:28
or what became known as the military industrial complex,
24:32
this notion that conflict can fuel industry.
24:36
Yeah, Eisenhower is the one who said,
24:39
he called it the military industrial congressional complex in his original speech.
24:44
Yeah, it's important to say these fellows weren't going broke
24:49
It's a huge change and it's profoundly inspiring
24:53
that everybody was able to come together and support the country,
24:56
but it's not like they weren't being paid to do so.
24:59
They were getting enormous government contracts.
25:02
And Ford wasn't exactly new to making aircraft.
25:05
They had the Ford trimotor, which was well,
25:10
not the most successful airplane ever, but it was no model T.
25:18
But it's not like they went fully in a different direction
25:22
as something they had done before.
25:25
So they did have some more expertise
25:27
and it was very smart of them to partner with an aircraft designer.
25:32
And it was strange because when you think about it,
25:36
it makes it, it's logical to say,
25:39
all right, let's have a auto manufacturer build trucks,
25:44
build armor cars, build jeeps, you know, even tanks.
25:47
But I really appreciate that you're pointing out how brand new
25:52
a lot of this manufacturing was,
25:54
if not for Ford for other players in the game.
25:57
Because general motors also built planes for the conflict, right?
26:03
And in addition to that, they weren't just assembling planes.
26:07
They were also producing aircraft components,
26:11
which, again, outside of Ford, they had never really done.
26:15
You can look at some of the stuff they've created
26:19
at the Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles
26:23
over there in Knoxville, Virginia.
26:25
You can see some of the tanks, like Buick built a tank.
26:29
That still blows my mind.
26:31
Buick built the M18 Hellcat in Flint, Michigan.
26:35
And it looks like a tank.
26:37
I mean, it doesn't look like a Buick to me, but it's a Buick.
26:40
Well, a lot of people referred to Buick's tanks
26:43
even long after the war.
26:47
I mean, that's a good point.
26:48
And the thing about this, we have to remember,
26:51
is that, regardless, like historians love to argue
26:55
the what ifs about the great conflict of World War II, right?
26:59
Like, what if event A happened a little earlier,
27:04
a little later, you know, we know how close we were
27:09
to a very different outcome at times.
27:12
But regardless of what kind of questions you want to bandy
27:17
about with your fellow history buffs,
27:19
the fact of the matter is that the US owes a great deal
27:25
of its success in World War II to the automotive industry.
27:30
And it's a story that Kurt, I think you and Scott and I wish,
27:34
was told more often.
27:38
And so all in all, just to get a sense of the scale here,
27:42
of how complete the switch was.
27:44
I want to point out that in 1941,
27:48
more than three million cars were produced in the US alone.
27:52
During the entirety of World War II,
27:56
they only made the entire industry,
27:59
only made 139 more.
28:02
Instead, it was all focused on this war effort
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and that war effort, you know,
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as inspiring and as amazing as it is,
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it makes us wonder, you know, what happened after the war?
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What happened over there at Willow, you know?
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Willow Run itself, the plant was run by Henry Ford's operation,
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but the government actually owned the building.
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So after the war, Ford decided not to buy the plant.
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I guess he figured he didn't need a millions of square foot
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facility that was told for making airplanes.
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So eventually a general motor is actually ended up with it,
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and they closed it in the 2000s.
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But like the building is torn down, you know,
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and you would think that there would be a museum
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or something, at least part of it.
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I think part of it is a museum called the Yankee Air Museum
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up there in Nipsilani, Michigan.
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But I mean more of a museum dedicated to what it once was
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or the manufacturing feats that happened during that time period
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or something like that.
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It turns out that as the world confronts in the COVID-19 pandemic,
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like you were saying, Kurt, the auto manufacturers of the planet
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are also taking a page from the US auto manufacturers of World War II.
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And we're seeing car makers pivot from making their typical, you know,
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their sedans or what have you and trying to supply materials, expertise,
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logistics to countries that need to, in hospitals, of course,
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that need to combat this infection.
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We mentioned Tesla because Tesla grabs headlines pretty easily,
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but there are a lot of other players in the game.
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And so we thought we would talk a little bit about different companies
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that are making heavy modifications to their own supply chain,
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heavy modifications to their manufacturing process and their factories
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to help fight this battle against this disease.
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As we tape this, it's April 9, 2020.
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So yesterday, a news dropped that general motors had been given a $489 million contract
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from the federal government as part of the Defense Production Act
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to produce 30,000 ventilators for the federal stockpile by August.
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And according to the contract, 6,000 of those ventilators are supposed to be available
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So that's just one of the things that has been happening.
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I know Ford and GM have also been involved with making personal protective equipment
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for doctors and hospitals like masks and face shields and things like that already,
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just kind of on their own, which is what PPE stands for.
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It's one of those acronyms that's very of the times, you know, month or two ago.
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I had no idea what PPE stood for and now I do.
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It's becoming a part of everyone's vocabulary these days.
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Yeah, and we know that other industries are a play here.
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Of course, Ford is assembling more than 100,000 plastic face shields per week as we speak.
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And it's leveraging, it's 3D printing capabilities
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to make medical equipment parts that require a high level of manufacturing precision.
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They're also collaborating with 3M on what they call a powered air purifying respirator.
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They want to try to use off-the-shelf parts from both companies.
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Essentially, the stuff they just had laying around to assemble these things
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and make the production process as fast as possible.
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Like for example, they're taking fans from the F-150 cooled seat apparatus
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and they're taking HEPA air filters and then they're combining these with portable battery packs
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that 3M has already been making for a long time.
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We do have to point out, I know some people were probably going to ask about this,
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but the Defense Production Act does come into play here.
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GM is being paid, but they're also being compelled through the Defense Production Act to make this.
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The Defense Production Act didn't come from World War II.
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It dates back to 1950, sort of a response to the beginning of the Korean War.
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And since 1950, it's been reauthorized a ton of times, like 50 times, more than 50 times.
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And this is part of the government's private industry team up.
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Picture them like different members of the Avengers.
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And they're teaming up to take on their big bad, their Thanos or their Loki or whatever.
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And that is the coronavirus.
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It's not my best comparison.
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I'm working live here.
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But we also see, for instance, that Mercedes is working to make positive airway pressure devices.
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And it took them a couple of days to figure out how to prototype this and how to test it.
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They made 100 for testing within just a few days.
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And now they are all set to produce 1,000 a day.
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So one thing that's amazing to me, and we've talked about this in the past on car stuff,
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is just how powerful scale of economy can be when you are a large manufacturer.
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We talk about this with how the auto industry in some cases emerged from people who were making bicycles,
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or people who were making refrigerators appliances.
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It's a weird relationship.
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And it's surprising.
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Do you hear about this?
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Even Lamborghini is getting on board?
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Yeah, they're converting not all of their production plant, but some departments of it to make it so they can create surgical mask
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and then protective plexiglass shields.
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And they have a sadlery that just makes the interiors of all these Lamborghinis.
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Even that group has been repurposed.
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And instead of making custom interiors, they're making 1,000 masks a day.
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And then they're also using 3D printers to make 200 medical shields there in the carbon fiber production plant
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at their R&D department, which is pretty, pretty crazy, right?
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Ford is, you know, we were bragging about Tesla or giving them their due a little bit in the beginning of this episode.
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We should also point out that Ford is increasing production of general electric healthcare ventilators,
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so they were already making these, so it's a little bit different,
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but they want to make an extra of 50,000 ventilators in the next 100 days.
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I get to say, I am pretty impressed with this.
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It's also nice to see that in an era where manufacturing is becoming more and more specialized,
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and there are tighter and tighter tolerances to many manufacturing processes
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that the term manufacturing is manufacturing still holds true in some cases.
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I don't think that car companies and other big manufacturers get enough credit
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for just pushing out tons of product to the public on a constant and consistent basis.
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And that alone is a giant feat that often goes over.
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Look, just the constant reproduction of components and parts and full on products
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that are just ultra consistent.
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And during times like this, when manufacturers can just up and change it up,
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shows you that modern manufacturers can pretty much make anything with a little bit of retooling
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and some direction or some engineering from more specialized companies.
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Like GM is teaming up with Vintech life systems to make their ventilators,
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so that's the company they've brought on to help them with the specialized aspect of making ventilators.
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But obviously, all the manufacturing and things like that,
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GM has a really good handle on that kind of thing, just because they make cars.
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And cars have tons of different systems in them.
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Yeah, I mean, that's a really good point.
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Even a let-ite like me knows that we're moving increasingly toward the era of the connected car,
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The ton of vehicle stuff.
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And there's so much hardware and software that goes into that kind of endeavor.
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It naturally can transfer to other sophisticated computer systems.
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So again, the thing, I don't know about you, man,
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but the thing that baffles me about this is first off,
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you and I growing up, we've been around to see the glory days and the tough times
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for the big three manufacturers.
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And we've seen times where people in the media are reporting like massive layoffs
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and insert company here is just too slow to adapt to the time and to adapt to consumer demands.
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Having seen all that news growing up, and even in recent years,
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I remain astounded by how quickly someone can say,
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let's take this gigantic thing and make it do something that appears from the outside completely different.
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So if you are working with these companies,
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if you are a member of their family,
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whether you're Lamborghini, whether you're Ford, whether you're GM,
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whether you're Tesla, what have you?
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This is a powerful thing.
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Yeah, and it's impressive.
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And I guess, you know, for now, that feels like our show, huh?
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I mean, I think we've looked into World War II.
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If you want more information on that, by the way, check out some of our World War II episodes in the car stuff feed,
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we dive into a couple of stories there in depth.
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One other thing that I wanted to give a shout out to as it relates to these car manufacturers
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that are jumping in and helping out where they can is their ability to just stop on a dime
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and assess the situation, see what needs to be done,
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and to rework their operations to be able to do it.
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We're going to look back and we're going to probably see some things that could have been done better.
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However, when it comes to the private sector and having to make probably work for them
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are very difficult choices.
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You know, they are probably looking into the future and trying to see things for what they are yet.
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What needs to be done right now probably does not align with what they see down the road,
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but they still do it and that I know that that's got to be a tough thing to do.
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Yet, they probably see it as just what needs to be done.
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It just has been a really quick realignment for these companies to up and start making medical equipment
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even though they may be equipped to do it and be provided the resources to do it.
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When it boils down to it, it's not exactly what they do in the micro term.
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I mean, this particular challenge right now, it's not exactly like a war
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where there's a strategy behind it and you have time to ramp up production
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and you're kind of handed this plan of what the needs would be.
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This is something that is new and the playbooks being written kind of in real time
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with bad information or incomplete information or information based on models
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because this is the first time something like this is happening in our modern era.
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It's just pretty impressive to see everyone jumping on board and making it happen.
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That brings us to our announcement for today.
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Kurt, you and I have been rolling with some changes
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in what people have been describing as a new normal and as we pivot
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and as we look at our own manufacturing output to keep the theme consistent,
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we're going to be bringing car stuff to a hiatus just for the foreseeable future.
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Scott, Kurt and I are all doing well and you don't need to be concerned about us.
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We are still busy bees.
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This is a learning experience for all of us and probably many of us listening in the audience today
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have had to drastically retool our day-to-day operations.
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We'd like to give a shout out and a massive thank you to everybody who has tuned in with car stuff over the years.
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We'd also like to, in particular, in this current time,
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we'd like to give a thank you to all of the gear heads out in the audience,
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like to give a thanks to all of the truckers and people working in the transportation industry
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keeping these supply chains around when they are very much vital in a very real way.
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You are on the front lines of this and we cannot thank you enough, but that's my attempt to thank you.
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Yeah, yeah, definitely.
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I'd like to echo what Ben said as well.
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Ben, it's been a pleasure working with you and with Scott on car stuff
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putting the show out to the car stuff faithful out there.
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I'd like to say also, thanks for sticking with us through all the bumps in the road
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and why we were trying to get our wits about us and everyone just keep on keeping on
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and we'll keep it moving down the road as well.
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Until then, keep the rubber side on the bottom and then we'll see you up the road.
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