The Best of Both Worlds

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Speaker 2: Happy Saturday, America. Your listen Let's Talk Cars Radio on

WKQA Freedom Radio. I'm your host, Big DAVP hanging out

with Camera Chaos and AVB. Hey, guys, it is gonna

be a great show. I hope that you guys are

ready for it. We're gonna got something I think that's

actually kind of cool. It's something kind of goes around

our house and goes around the table quite a bit, and the reality of it is is like, so how do people become car guys? You know, we talked about

this kind of the past here and there and stuff like that, but the perspective on it is always a little bit different, but it all revolves like kind of back to some of the same things. So as we

were sitting around and we were talking before we came on the air, you know, I was recalling like a bunch of different stories of how I ever got to the point to be a car guy. And for me,

it starts really really young. I mean, forget the fact

that my family had been in the car business and has revolved around the car business my whole life. It

really started something a little different than that. For me,

It's like, so I remember I used to go to my grandpa's house, right, And I was telling the guys before it came on the air. So before in my life,

before matchbox and hot wheels became really anything I even knew about, all I played with was and you guys made some of y'all that listened to the show may remember it's a lovey I mean I had stamped steal cars, and I'm not talking about like big cars. There are

size of a hot wheel and they were just stamp steel.

And there's like I had a fire truck. I think

I had a tow truck. I had like a Hudson Sedan,

you know what I mean, like stuff like that, and they just stamp steel and they had just little plastic tires on them that rolled. And those were my first

cars and I didn't know any different. I literally can

remember it, and I was young, and everybody goes, oh, there's no way you remember some of that stuff in it, but I do. I remember the first time that I

had a hot Wheel or a Matchbox car like present it to me after playing with stamped steel cars, and I never like, this is gold well never, I'd never seen one before. It was like I was like, wow,

this is kind of cool because all I had been playing with was stamped steel cars.

Speaker 3: Well now think about it, think about where hot wheel is now, you know what stable about to say a staple.

Everybody mentioned top outweighs say you say match Box and everybody's like, what right? Well, I mean I think they

procured on what they had, right. They you know, made

something very accessible that you know you can get multiple different models brands as well as you know, they introduced new different techniques in the cars.

Speaker 2: Also, I'll take I'll take it one step further. So

you remember this is at a young age for me, I mean, I was probably three or four years old, and people are like, oh, you cannot remember that. I do.

I don't know if it's because certain things in my life had happened that I have a really vivid memory of very young age. But I remember, like I remember

going to my grandpa's house. And now my grandpa passed

away from when I was young, so maybe that's the reason why I remember some of that stuff. But he

had the Stamp Steel cars. He's the one that introduced

me to Stamp steel cars. Now, he was a car guy,

as you guys know. We have the Bad album that

was my grandpa's trans am, so he had I think he had a Corvette at one point time. I can't

remember what year it was, but I vaguely remember there being a Corvette around. And maybe I don't know if

it's because I saw pictures of it, because I physically saw the car. That part I can't remember. But he

was a car guy and he liked things as well, so he, like said, he gave me Stamp steel cars.

But I remember the first time I ever got and I don't know if it was a hot wheel or a match box, and the hood opened up.

Speaker 4: And I was like, it's definitely a match box.

Speaker 2: I was like, holy cow, the hood opens up on this car. Like I mean it was just like, you know,

I know that seems simple, but those little things like made me more of a car person. Like I was like,

holy cow. I mean like it was cool. And then

I got a car. I remember getting a car and

the doors opened up on it, and I was just like, the doors open up on this thing, and I'd just be being amazed. And then you know, I'd go all

the way down that that could be like five years old, and I really really wanted this Tonka truck. And if

you guys remember if anybody can find a picture, I've looked around. I'm sure you can probably if you dug around.

I can't find the exact one. But I had a

black and gold Tonka car carrier that carried it was you know, like carried new cars like car carrier. And

I got it when I was five years old, and I wanted it and wanted it and I ended up getting it for Christmas and it was like the like coveted thing that I owned, and it was and it was really really cool, but it it carried cars on I think of the cars were made out of plastic that it carried. That's it right there. Camera found it.

I searched for it, like a while back. I couldn't

find it. How sell on for one hundred fet bucks.

Camera just pulled up online. Yeah, I owned that and

I but I remember wanting it forever. And like I said,

I was five years old, and you could came plastic cars on it. Though Cameron pulled up online, I don't

see the plastic cars on it. I hadnt plastic cars.

Speaker 4: For one hundred fret dollars. It could be yours for one.

Speaker 2: Hundred fifty dollars, like relive the memory. But like little

things like that just kept molding.

Speaker 3: Me plus twenty dollars of shipping.

Speaker 2: But you know, getting those things like at five years old, like I wanted that. Now I had a Tonka truck

like everybody did, the yellow Tonka truck dump truck, I think is what mine was. That got no play with me,

Like I was not interested in playing with that thing at all. I was interested in playing with the car

carrier or anything. And then of course I think I

remember being frustrated, and I said, I was young, but I can remember the frustration to it because it only fit the cars really well that they came with it right the other ones. So I had other cars and

I like to put them on that they never fit right or look right like I look at it like I look, I see. There's a picture down below shows

one with a car with cars on it right there in the corner right there. Yep, So there you go.

That's it.

Speaker 3: Childhood was different than ours.

Speaker 2: You look, every carries two cars on it.

Speaker 4: You needed a little imagination.

Speaker 3: If you're if you're on Facebook, you'll be able to see it on there.

Speaker 2: So imagination, I'll take you a different drink.

Speaker 4: They they definitely let you draw.

Speaker 3: That imagination with different back. How many times did you

take a car? Okay, how many times did you take

a car? And go, let me tell you how bad

imagination is?

Speaker 2: Right, So when you're like when you're a kid, right and you just every love everything cars and I did, like I said, at a very young age. That's probably

reason why I just I still love car as much as I do. We used to play I can't remember what,

but I'm gonna say we called it highway. I don't

it had a name, but let's just say we played highway.

We had a wooden chair in our bedroom, okay, and you would sit down the wooden chair and you pretend like you were driving. And then my brother, I know

you all look could be funny. My brother would get

up and would scoot underneath the chair like he was the road. And he get up and do it again,

like I was driving across the road, like he was the road. Do you understand? I get it? Okay, So

he just kind of I'm just trying to figure out who is dropped as the kid. I don't know where

we came up with this idea, but he was the road, and he'd.

Speaker 4: Have to say, like he was better than the lines of the road.

Speaker 2: Going underneath the car, right, you know, it was the road.

Speaker 5: You guys were like, you know, it's better than playing with some matchup box cars if we were the cars.

Speaker 2: Had some imagination you truly had.

Speaker 3: He would just want to know, you have a spatula in your hand.

Speaker 2: I was just you kind of held it pretend like ye had a chain.

Speaker 3: Will.

Speaker 2: But I don't know where we came up with the idea to have him keep on getting up and like he had to get up from the back of the chair, run around the front of the chair and then sliderneath the chair again like it was the road, because I think he kind of represented you know how you go road lines, right, So that's that's it is a little nuts, I don't know, but that's what we did. So, but

I got an accident one day playing Highway. He got

up too quickly, he knocked the chair over with me on it, you guys, I busted my head open.

Speaker 3: I had to go to the Hospital's faked.

Speaker 2: Now. He was going underneath the chair and he got

up too quickly and caught the chair with his feet and kicked the chair open, and I fell over and I hit my head and cracked the back of my head open. I had to go to the hospital and

get stitches. And the last time he was you're absolutely right.

It was the last time we played that game.

Speaker 3: But imagine having to explain to the doctor, oh, why are you in here? We were playing Highway. I mean

we were playing what's highway? Let me you got a chair.

Here's what you're gonna have to do. You're gonna be

the road. I'm still the driver. But no, and we

stopped playing that. But I remember we stopped.

Speaker 2: Playing that game.

Speaker 4: At that moment you realize you're little too old for that.

Speaker 2: No, you know what, I still I probably still wanted to play if I was too scared to get another car accident. But I don't know where we came with

the game, but we played that. But it just goes

to show you, like I think for some people, like the car stuff is inbreded of them, right like so, because I guess I don't even know how we even came up with that game, but we did, and we played.

I remember playing it a lot, like we played it a lot.

Speaker 4: It was just mark money, probably imagination, imagination.

Speaker 3: I remember like taking the cars that you had packed away, Well, I.

Speaker 2: Still do you know I still have them?

Speaker 3: Do you really know?

Speaker 2: One? I still probably have a couple of thousand of

the cars I bought you guys in the hot wheels and I got packed away in the attic.

Speaker 3: And then how about the big cars? So I used

to take big cars and keep them on top of I didn't take the cars and parts.

Speaker 5: What he means big cars, he means collectible hot wheels.

Speaker 4: Play with them like they're like we're dollar car cars.

Speaker 3: They were cars.

Speaker 2: Hold on, I made the mistake because I'm a car guy and we we we know he.

Speaker 3: Gave me acause I need to.

Speaker 2: I broke down. I had I bought them collector cars,

like I bought them collector hot wheels, and I thought.

Speaker 4: They would would I probably should have.

Speaker 2: But your dad like, okay, I mean, okay, just I know, so you guys understand. I have a picture of them. Uh.

I don't even think they're even a year old yet.

And I bought them fire radio controlled fire trucks where the ladders worked and everything else where because I was for so long. What I used to do. I used

to drive around. I used to drive around. I used

to bump them with the fire truck and they would crawl across the floor and I lift the ladder up and I would tap them with the ladder because ladder extend all the way out and I would tap them like on their butt with the ladder because I have it, I don't.

Speaker 3: Have anymore that they would to go sell it. And

I I remember sitting upstairs in my old room taking all the screws out, like this tells you how much of your car? Guy? Yeah, I took all the screws out,

took the whole frame or the body off the frame.

Speaker 2: When all through the wiring.

Speaker 3: Reconnected it, put it back on and it drove, but it didn't turn. I got the ladder back up and working,

but I got it where it could all the water I paid.

Speaker 2: I paid a good money for that. It was for

that fire truck. If you guys, I'm sure they're still

out there. But it was very controlled and everything worked

on like the ladder it rotated was it wasn't want to be fast.

Speaker 3: It was no.

Speaker 4: I'm talking about like just the whole thing.

Speaker 2: Like the ladder.

Speaker 4: As different though.

Speaker 2: But like I bought him met and then like I had a lot of collectible cars, so I at one point in time had an office that was nothing but die Cast collectibles, you name it, everything car related.

Speaker 3: And that's it, dude, I'm on fire.

Speaker 2: That's the exact model. But that's basically that is like, yeah,

the ladder, so yeah, but I had a complete office in fact that to tell you how ight up I was with it. And I can't remember what race it was.

I had the complete running of I think one of the Atona races. The die Cast nascars on my ceiling

in the order they start the remember them screwed in the ceiling like they're going down the track, and they were in a complete order of the running order. And

then I had I had one point time, I probably had like eleven hundred or twelve hundred different die cast cars.

I couldn't put them all onto play, but I had a whole office. Every inch of the wall was car

related stuff. And then when.

Speaker 3: Somebody didn't give an autograph, they all came down.

Speaker 5: Right.

Speaker 3: Okay, I'll be to tell you anything like this.

Speaker 5: Did you ever try again? That was gonna be my question,

Did you try again? Because you know, somebody to do,

somebody to do.

Speaker 3: Get busy, right, They don't even know what we're talking about.

Speaker 2: I told I think you know. I think I told

a story on the air runs four. I think I

told you guys about So I was a Jeff Gordon fan, like say whatever you guys want. I was Jeff Gordon fan.

And uh I had been around Jeff a lot because of the business I was in, But I never wanted to be like that fanboy kind of person. I just

wasn't into being that person.

Speaker 3: Well, respect the boundaries.

Speaker 2: I was respecting the boundaries even though I had been within less than a foot of him many times. But

he was giving interviews or he was doing autographs for people, stuff like that, and because of the business way that we were in, I didn't, you know, I was, I knew how to hold my position and not. You know,

but you're still a stranger to him, right right, I'm still yeah. I had had I had did business stuff

with him. But but it's kind like me. If he

couldn't pick me out of a crowd, right, he might be my face stuff, sure enough, didn't know my name or anything like that. But we did some stuff promotion

stuff with them in the past, and so we had been around him. I finally got Jeff Gordon alone where

nobody was around, nobody was interviewing him, nothing, And I think I told I, like I swear I told this story before. Maybe I haven't. But I got toflate. I

had a pen and I had like a seventy five dollars poll shirt I just bought. There was a Jeff

Gordon shirt, just something simple. I don't do big, crazy

pictures on the front. I'm just not that guy. I

like little things around the side, pop it's whatever. So

I bought this really nice and I had sharp in my hand and the opportunity to present itself. There was

nobody around. He was leaning against this car and it

was autumn pit row, right before the race, and I said, hey, would you mind sign the shirt for me? And he

looked me dead in my face and said, I don't sign things before I get in my car, which is understandable.

Speaker 3: No not really, no, no there. I didn't want to

do it type of I didn't. I know we got

as a car guy.

Speaker 2: Did it hurt well? I mean, you just put it

this way. So I had hundreds of things of Jeff Gordon.

I didn't have it all on display because I thought that'd be tacky. But I had a lot of stuff

that people bought me over the year. So I had

a lot of in the And when we moved, I didn't put anything back up. And it was probably because

I was a little buttter from that situation.

Speaker 3: I remember.

Speaker 2: I never I never in the new house. I never

put the office back together with all the die cast up.

I boxed all up. I sat on it for quite

a few years, and then I decided to go ahead and sell it all, which makes.

Speaker 5: Sense though, because I mean, as a fan, you know, you spent dollars you want to really, you know, reaching out like that.

Speaker 2: One other thing that that killed it for me was people.

I had a bunch of Dale Earnhart stuff and people are selling it for big money after his death, and I refuse to do that. I just thought, I'm aware.

I donate a lot of stuff. I refuse to sell

the stuff off and make a profit out it. I

just thought that was weird, so I didn't do it.

So got's more for you, guys. I'll tell you how

people become car guys. Hold tight, we got more. We're

right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Let's Talk Cars Radio. You're automotive specialist.

Now back to your host Dave Polach.

Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back. So if you're listening to the

first portion of the show, we're talking about how you become a car guy. I just think it's kind of

interesting when you talk with people in the different ways that progress. And then the boys and I got talking

about it, and like my progression to me is I think it's normal, but some people like, wait, you really did like go through some stages and stuff, So.

Speaker 5: I think it's pretty normal. I think you guys had

a weird game. But you know, we all wait, man,

it was hot.

Speaker 3: I don't like so that was.

Speaker 2: I don't know how know how that game got started.

Speaker 5: I'm not going to judge. We used to we used

to have a game called Dealership. I'm not really sure

how it got started either. Yeah, so you guys my

own one. But remember the car carpet that you bought

one time we were really remember we're young, Yes I remember that, but you know, when we're a little older.

Speaker 2: If you guys don't know, I bought them a carpet that had roads all over. It had like a little.

Speaker 3: Parking and stuff like that laid down when I was like ten. That was still the carpet I had in

my room because I laid it back down.

Speaker 2: That's what I forgot. I did.

Speaker 4: I bought it.

Speaker 5: You know, we used to all get our own cars and used played dealership sell cars. Someone used to be

a police officer and we used to play that with our cousin.

Speaker 2: You guys even did that no idea all the time, So like I said, I was, I was, I was alluding to it and I was talking about it. So

I sold you guys. You know, I bought them fire

truck before for the year one years old. Every year

for Christmas. The reason why we have so many hot

wheels probably in the attic, in matchbox cars in the attic.

Every year, I bought hot wheels like throughout the year, and I just saved up so at Christmas time from the time that they were one years old, probably you guys are like five or six. I got pictures of

it for a guy they had they had. I'd buy

them like each like a hundred hot wheels or matchbox cars mixed up. Every year I got them. And that's

how we ended up with so many because back then, if you all remember, hot wheels, you can get for thirty three cents when they're on sale. You can buy

them for thirty three cents when they're on sale. So

I'd just buy tons of them and hang on to them especially and I make sure I didn't do duplicates, so we ended up with tons of these, and like I said, I got a bunch of them still in the attic I've saved, and a bunch of them I know are some of the ones that I've I've looked at are now able to become a value now they're opening out of the package. But I don't know, maybe

when they're fifty or sixty years old, they'll be like, you know what the broken pink one like there's the pink bug or whatever it is. It's worth a bunch

of money right now, I thing it's worth like ten grand or two A bunch of different ones.

Speaker 4: Which you now remember, is a lot of them are destroyed?

Speaker 2: No case, No, there is. There's a lot of were destroyed.

Speaker 3: Look time, there isn't a lot that are destroyed. Okay,

the blue ones are the blue cases. It's all. We

actually have the hot wheel case that on the front of it. Yep, blue ones destroyed. The ones those are

destroyed to no there.

Speaker 2: Recently I was, I was, you did played with a lot.

Speaker 5: Now I will say there was a point where we prayed a long yes we did, Yes did, because here's what you remember. Because the really nice ones were all decal.

They actually had real rubber wheels. They weren't plastic, so

they had like different like.

Speaker 2: Ones case you guys don't know. I actually bought the

plastic one that won the platform from a collector he was selling his collection.

Speaker 4: Another one, uh huh, yeah, like another set, or you just bought the.

Speaker 2: Case those cases, those clear cases, you guys. Those hot

wheels came from a collector that was selling off collection and I bought them one year for you guys for Christmas.

And I think there was like it just them away.

There was like two hundred cars. Well I just bought them.

I'm like, look, you know we.

Speaker 3: Played with them.

Speaker 2: Well those they told you guys not really to play with, but you guys didn't. You guys didn't get into them.

They were stored in your guys's closet, which long ye on top top show should get to it. And then

you guys got bigger and learn how to climb up on things. Before you know what, they came down and

play with it. But curious, George work because sat I

mean for it worked because you think about it. That

was my evolution, right, So I went from hot wheels.

We were talking about this I went from hot wheels.

I didn't do really the die cast cars like a lot of people did. I went to slot cars, and

I became addicted to slot cars, and I think that was really like my first like really like what I thought about being on an auto mechanic kind of like was like, because you guys, remember the slot cars back in the day you used to go to if you went to toys r Us, they had one whole aisle full at least that my toys or used did, where you could buy different slot cars, and they were I think they're like thirty three dollars at that time, which seemed like a lot of money. But I owned a

bunch of them. And then I realized that you could

mess with the motors because they were just spun wire, so you could do different things motor make them fast.

I realized you could put different tires on them. I

was telling the boys, like I'd put a set of like sticky tires on one side and I put a different set of tires on the other side. It would

make my car I could like almost hold wide open.

Speaker 4: Throttle, especially if it was only a left hand turned back track.

Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So here's the thing. So let me explain

to you how this worked. We had a really large

family room in my house, and I used to go and buy broken slot car tracks at yard sales. So

I go to yard sale and soon I saw a slot car track. First thing, I asked us, does it

have the cars? If it had the cars, I was

interested in because the cars were expensive, times were so different.

It was because you were buying that you'd buy a broken like when I mean broken. If you guys remember

the way the slot cars tracks went together. They had tabs,

say two little tabs. You clicked me, They pushed on

tabs and they clicked the track together. And people constantly

broke those tabs. So you'd have like two or three

pieces in a kit that were broken, and then you get maybe six straights out of it that were still good.

And that's all I wanted. So I built a big,

huge I'd say, oh, but it wasn't it was a big square. I'd go straight away, put a turn in it,

straight away, put a turn in it. The full size

of our family room. And our family room was like

forty five feet by like thirty three feet, and I had a track, and then everybody'd come in to my house in the neighborhood, and we'd race for money like that, and what don't mean money back the day it was like twenty five cents on a race, fifty cents on a race, a dollar on a race, I mean, but we ran tons and tons of races me day long.

It was you were going to McDonald's with it. And

I had a bunch of cars, and they, my buddies, were building their cars and they were changing the tires, and we had different cars with different bodies. Like I

remember I had the number one and I don't remember who who the sponsor was, but it was a white Indy car with a number one on it, and it was one of my fastest cars and it was my best performing car. And then I had the yellow number

pens Oil Indy car too that I got that was really really good. But I was, you know, I thought

I was mechanicking because I'm like taking tires off, doing different rims. I'm changed. It used to be able to

pop the back wheels out of it, and you could change the back's axle a little different gear on it.

Speaker 3: And imagining that you were like changing the tires and engines like building building like an engine I'm poor out of popsicles.

Speaker 2: It was is you realized realized the copper spinning in it was what is what made the car faster slower.

Speaker 3: I feel like when you were how much copper engine.

Speaker 5: I'm more mad that, like the stuff that we grew up was like a dumb down version of what you guys had.

Speaker 2: Maybe it could be.

Speaker 5: Because like you know, like a lot of things you couldn't like break down. Like I will say, like the

really nice r C car, it wasn't even really an r C car. It was more like a a modular

RC car, but it was more like street style so it wasn't like, you know, not to go off roading with.

There's more just for a show style play. But you

could change the wheels, the suspension, you could change the cover of the car, the batteries. I mean, I forgot

what even kind of cars we had, but I mean you're building street cars, you know you could just well, one time I brought a show and tail.

Speaker 2: Yeah that's because like so your your first radio control car wasn't super fast. But I bought you guys once

and you really liked it. I bought each one of y'all,

and I bought them different colors.

Speaker 4: So we didn't play with it.

Speaker 2: For yours green and years was blue. So I bought him,

and then I went ahead and I got I traded I had a problem with I think it was yours, and I had a problem with it. I traded out.

And then yours was blue, and yours was a blue Mustang, I believe, and yours was red. Was a red suthing

it was.

Speaker 4: It was correct.

Speaker 2: So and they were quick for what they were. They

were smaller, but you could put rims on them, You could put different motors in them, You could do all kinds of things. The calibers r these ones let you

take the doors off and you could put like a golden looking style door on all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 4: It was very modular first time it was.

Speaker 2: It was and it was cool, but you guys were like I, as a dad and being a car guy, I was just stoked because they sat for hours and hours and hours building on these cars, taking things apart and changing things, and so I just kept going buying parts.

Speaker 5: So what happened though, because we didn't like I remember picking it up years later, So like, was it something that we weren't interested in or we were just too young to really show what end up happening was, which just made me mad.

Speaker 2: The company that came up with this, that those cars they stopped stop supplying parts for him. And it was

and that's happened to you guys two times in your life. Okay,

So we really cool. We had those cars. You guys

loved them, and I was going, like I was going every week and buying different rims and buying They had body kits you could buy for them that bolted on and stuff like that, and they were all into it, and it, like I said, being a car guy, this is the best thing you want for your.

Speaker 3: I do remember, I do remember having the kits and we used to build the bit and the bill used to have the kit and stuff, and then we used to try to build like the wings and stuff, and we found them.

Speaker 2: You would buy, so you go to the store and they sold up called a mod kit. I think the

cars were actually called mot mods. I think it is

where they were. It was actually the names of them,

if I remember correctly. And you could go buy a

kit and then I could bring the kit home and they'd spend like two hours mod in the car out of this kit had all these different parts in it, and you would put and then you guys would play with that for a little while, and then you'd be like, I could tell it was time to like, and then I'd go buy like another mod kit, and you guys just changed things. You guys kept on changing things of

the car, what they call mods. I see you look

them up.

Speaker 3: I remember the I remember the RC cars that we had.

And then we had bigger R car.

Speaker 2: Right, so that was a whole other thing.

Speaker 3: And that happened that one there were more dirt style.

There was one broke, and I remember we kept you broke them the first day. Okay, that wasn't our that

wasn't our fault. Okay, a lot of it was. But

it had a lot of kick and a lot of power.

So okay, tell the story first, and then I'll tell my what happened. Like eight years after.

Speaker 2: They were called they were called to can RC is that they were, but they were mods, right, the word mods in them or something like that.

Speaker 3: Welcome to how we became the car guys.

Speaker 4: Yeah, but there are at one a scale.

Speaker 2: Cars, so same thing still happen me. So I wanted

I was, you know, I I was doing slot cars for a while, and then I decided I wanted all my friends started getting radio control cars, which happened to you guys. Well, it's funny how that progressed the same

way for you guys. They didn't go from slot cars,

but people like your friend started getting RC cars that were like faster. So the course that you guys wanted,

the same thing happened to me. So I had a

series of radio control cars as a kid, and none of them were fast. And then my friends, I was

telling the boys, uh, people are my age or maybe you know a little older, and you remember, you know, buying these, maybe for your kids or whatever. The Golden

Arrow came out from Radio Shack and no one ever really seen anything that was that. You could buy it

out of the box, and it was that fast. It

was a very fast car for its time, and everybody had one except me. I didn't have one, and I

really wanted one, and all the things got one because it came out right around Christmas time, and I was saying, they were they were displaying them in the mall and they were running them up and down in the mall.

That's when Radio Shack was still in the mall.

Speaker 5: I remember in a few young years of the mall, you know RC cars flying around, driving around, Well.

Speaker 4: They don't really do that no more.

Speaker 2: They don't because Kv's Toys went out of business. So

KB Toy had a big selection of RC cars like that you could build yourself. They were one of the

ones that had them. And when KB Toys disappeared, that

was like the car, the control cars in the mall disappearing.

I'm telling you how radio control cars changed me as a gear head completely. But you got to come back

for the next episode.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back. So here's the funny funny. So

we talked about a little bit different things today. You know,

I like to mix it up a little bit. You know,

we've talked a lot of stuff when it comes to Tesla, and I'll be the first one to tell you guys that, you know, over the years, we've caught a lot of heat when it comes to Tesla. The biggest reason is

everybody's like, oh, you're you're a Tesla fan. You're a

Tesla boy, You're a Tesla you call me Tesla whatever you want. It's not that I'm a huge Tesla fan.

I support Tesla in the movement that they have caused for all of us over all these years. Without Tesla,

we sure enough would not be where we are today now we would I just be scratching the surface still, yeah, we would be one hundred percent would be not where we are. Every single manufacturer should one hundred percent thank

Tesla for where we are today because they would not be where they are without Tesla. And that's just that's

just truth. It's just it's an honest truth to what

it is. Okay, Now, we've joked a lot of things

about when it comes to Tesla. God knows, we're still

waiting for ours. I believe he just got held up

with the delivery of our Tesla's here to the studio.

They should show up. I guess I don't know. That's

what do we believe because the biggest supporter of We've been as much beating up as we've taken from everybody in our emails and all that kind of stuff over the years for supporting them, even when everybody was you know, everybody's on the high of Oh, I love Tesla, and then all of a sudden they're like, oh, Tesla this I've never gone up and down on that I've always just said, Look, there's obviously a reason for it to move forward. A smart man doesn't make decisions unless there's

a really good reason. He's not just going to trash

everything unless there's not a good reason to move forward.

If that makes sense. Okay, so you follow me where

I'm at on that. So with that being said, this

is a decision that I kind of wonder a little bit, and there has to be a good reason for it.

Now I know that Tesla's is continuous, continuously partying up with other manufacturers. I've always said that I think Tesla

could have made and still could make a lot of more money than they make. But obviously they're not in

it for the money. Else they would make different decisions

if they just took their technology and sold it off the other manufacturers and just did that and let them take that technology put in other cars and let them run with it. Okay, but you have to remember, like

I told you, Tesla is not a car company. They've

never been a car company. They are a technology company,

and they're using us, as to a certain degree, as the guinea pigs to pull the more information back so they can use that to create which is brilliant idea.

That's just the way I view it. I'm sure I'm

seeing some Probably there's probably some flaws in my thinking that I'm not on the smartest level to understand as Elon Musk is, But as I look at some of his actions, that's the only thing that makes sense to me as I review it completely. Okay, this is what

I don't understand fully, but there has to be some reason for it. So if you can. Guy's been following

the news, you know that Tesla has decided to open up their supercharging to every single like what GM and Ford manufacturers, right, This is just those two second Okay. So,

and you have a lot of Tesla people that are mad, and I kind of understand to a certain degree and a certain degree why they're upset. Up until this point,

you have been part of the upper echelon private club of Tesla as long as you have a Tesla. That's

kind of part of the fun of it. It really is.

Speaker 3: I'm not that is, yeah, But at the same time, it's like Tesla, You're right. When Tesla started, You're absolutely right,

like everybody should have only been able to use Tesla chargers to charge Tesla's but that's where now though, You're right, but now we're in the point that Tesla overruns the electric market, that it's a good point that we should start sharing them. They they own how much the percent

of the electric chargers in the world.

Speaker 2: They own a lot of.

Speaker 3: A lot of them. I mean, in twelve.

Speaker 2: Twelve thousand superchargers, twelve thousands such chargers, okay, twelve thousand okay, and what's the other people at.

Speaker 3: I mean, I'm guessing probably two thousand at.

Speaker 2: The twelve thousand superchargers. There's a lot of superchargers though,

and we know that, we know, like I told you guys, if you've been keeping up with it, and I try to keep up to a lot the best I can.

They're building those superstations that we everybody keeps on selling us pictures of where they are, like a hundred pumps of superstations. I call them pumps, but I'm sure there's

another name they have for them. But they look like

gas pumps. But they're just there's one hundred of them

stacked up at these big, huge charging stations are built.

I know there's one in Texas being built. Be somebody

send me a picture of that one. And stuff. So

there's these big, huge infrastructures being built. So with that

being the case, you have these things that are being put together. But like I said, when you signed up

for the whole Tesla, that's just talking with Tesla owners.

There is exclusivestivity that people have that come with owning a Tesla. They like that I bought into having a Tesla.

I'm part of this special private club of Tesla. We

have our own chargers, we have her own this. I

got my own Tesla hat, I got my Tesla shirt.

You know what i mean. Like, there is a Tesla club.

Speaker 3: It's just it.

Speaker 2: It means something to these people. So I understand a

little bit where that comes from. They're like, okay, so

now I'm not part of the private club. Anybody gets

to be part of the Tesla club and use my private charger and stuff. You aren't stand what I'm saying.

You get what I'm putting together.

Speaker 3: I understand where you're coming from. And I'm looking at

the maps right now. So basically, when they ran the report,

I'm guessing back in twenty one, what two years ago, Tesla had over fifteenth chargers, while Electric America had only twenty two hundred, okay, and then you had evy Go, which when they asked it was thirteen nine hundred and three, but on their website there on they say eight hundred.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Speaker 3: So it's like Tesla is dominating the market. They should

share the power. So you.

Speaker 2: What about okay? So I understand you say they just

share the power, But what about the people that join the Guesla people part of that private I'm Tesla. You

can't touch my Tesla stuff. There's my toys you can

do that, you can do that.

Speaker 3: Let's say you have to go for why don't you charge the other people that don't drive a Tesla eight Tesla fee?

Speaker 2: You know you're missing the point. You're completely missing the point.

Stand where you're me No, you're not, because you're like, why don't we charge it? I, as a customer bought

my Tesla.

Speaker 5: Okay, but you want that you're looking at that that was in the beginning.

Speaker 2: It's not in the beginning. You sold me the idea

of that.

Speaker 3: Okay. Would you be more comfortable if we did half

just Tesla chargers and then half Tesla.

Speaker 2: I'm not happy if anything, I'm saying, Just understand what I'm saying to you, I'm not happy of anything. You

sold me the idea of Tesla. I still have that

I've supported and I bought into it, and you sold me the idea of Tesla that were Tesla Tesla. I

have Tesla's stuff that's for Tesla and Tesla. That's almost

like selling me a charger for Apple, and now tell me that that charges a Samsung and everything else, which you know is never going to happen. It's the same thing, guys,

It's exactly the same thing I hold on. I bought

into the Apple.

Speaker 5: So I'll go with your Apple explanation, right, USB, So you're going back to so you gotta kind of think like so when Tesla first started, right and stuff, and when Apple first started, they had their kind of own charger wise, right, Okay, And as we progress through the years and stuff, we're trying to make a standard for everybody, but Apple's we're going to do that, but they have they have Apple Apple things. So Apple, So I'm I'm

gonna say, so Apple, right, you know, change their charger like three different times, kind of making it more user friendly to use across all their platforms wise as well as you know, connecting to any brick wise right as well as a agreement just went down with the UK, because the UK decided that they wanted to have you know, actable as chargers for everybody wise, so not everybody's buying all these different chargers. So beginning, I think in like

what twenty twenty four, they got to start putting chargers USBC chargers because that's the the charger they did. They

deemed that was you know, accessible for everybody wise. So

it's kind of like what Tesla's doing.

Speaker 3: Right.

Speaker 5: So it's like, imagine you're driving down the road, right and you're running out again and stuff. How mad would

you be? It's kind of like when you're like going

down you see different gas stations and stuff. Imagine that

you pull up and you can't charge on this charger because you don't own that brand, okay, and you got to gotta go down the road and look for it.

Speaker 2: I got charger, Okay, I got you. I understand what

you're saying. Now let me give it to you in

a different way. Okay. Imagine you bought Apples, Apple Phone

all your life. Apple. I'm not picking on You'm just

usual example because I like your products. Imagine all your life.

You bought Apple. You open up the Apple phone, it's

Apple all the time, Apple branding, Apple, Everything, it's Apple, It's exclusiveivity is Apple. Because I'm an Apple guy, right right,

love Apple man, here's my Apple thing. We I wait

in line every single year for the brand new Apple thing for ten thousand people stand in the line to buy a sixteen dollars phone, right right. That happens over

and over again, right hold on, hold on, came because we're getting we're going.

Speaker 4: I already know where you're going with.

Speaker 2: And then one day I stand in line for six hours and grab my Apple box and I open it up and inside is ava phone in an Apple box.

Speaker 4: Well you mean so, you mean you need a different charger.

Speaker 2: But everything is it's just different because everybody gets to have this.

Speaker 4: Noone hasn't changed. The car hasn't changed, just the way

you're charging.

Speaker 2: Just everything inside. It's different because we want everybody to

have access to the same thing. That's what it is.

Speaker 4: But you're only changing the course.

Speaker 2: And now everything is just going to be the same, so everybody has the same access.

Speaker 5: The product isn't the same. You're not changed. You're not

They're not changing the car they're just saying that, hey, you used to have access before we go on commercial break, right, and so let me ask you this. Right, So, if

I was going to tell you that, hey, I can charge your phone three to four times faster or your car if we just changed the charger and so it's not gonna be Apple product.

Speaker 2: What's not gonna happen right this second. You're not going

to change your mind before the commercial break. Let me

take a cursion break, will jump back into it. You

got sold tight. You ain't heard the end of this.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back. So if you didn't key in

on the excitement this last segment, we're not done with it yet. So during the commercial break, I think I

figured out an analogy that does fit and work. We'll

all agree that this analogy works, but in a little bit the no this this analogy. We agree the analogy works,

but it gives all of us a piece of way to explain it in our own in our own way.

Was okay. So here's the deal, you guys. Like I said,

once again, you guys know that that I like Tesla, and that's the reason why I'm having this argument because it just I feel that everybody who bought a Tesla bought into that that exclusive explusive club right of Tesla, because that's what you were buying. You were buying that school.

Speaker 1: Wait.

Speaker 2: Look, everybody I know that has a Tesla.

Speaker 3: It feels like you guys want to There isn't one person I know that has a Tesla that hasn't said to me, have you seen much?

Speaker 2: Everybody's asked me that question because it's a Tesla, dude, it's a cool car for every capability that it has.

Of course you're gonna ask me have I seen your Tesla?

And my answer is usually gonna be, well, no, it was just like the last one. You know, let's take

a look, you know, I mean, unless you show it to me. Just yesterday and then I'm like, well you do, yeah,

you just show.

Speaker 5: It to me.

Speaker 2: Yeshually, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 3: Have you?

Speaker 2: Have you? Have you seen my Nissan?

Speaker 3: You know, I said, my Loocid, Yeah, that show you the picture.

Speaker 2: I went to the airplas. While I was at the airport,

there was one sitting right there at the door, like the first time I'd seen one other than in when we were in Vegas, like just in a while, sitting in an airport, you know what I mean. It was

just sitting. I was like, Oh, we haven't heard a Loosid. Yeah, yeah,

you don't hear you just don't. You don't hear them

as often as I thought you would buy now, you know what I mean. Great cars though, if you've never

seen a Looser absolutely suggests you get up close to one very cool car as well. And everybody's like, oh,

that's your a Tesla guy. I am, But once again,

I'm gonna tell you guys, Loose Motors is one of those companies that are building something. They're trying to do

what Tesla did, and you know, it's good for competition.

Everything's good for competition when it comes to something that the people that are in the same space. I just

believe that. Anyway, here's the way to settle this argument

that I think, imagine because of the fact that you know, now you're going to let them have access to Tesla and every and then they reminded me. They're like, well,

don't forget. You know, people have been selling aftermarket adaptions

to the charger clips so you can plug in a different place. Well, I understand that. I get that, but

that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about

as a company. We're talking about a company openly going okay,

use my chargers now for GM you can just plug into our chargers, which then takes away from that private club of being part of that Tesla. So that's that's

what people are griping about, and I understand where they're at it. Imagine that you own a Laborghini and you

bought a Laborghini for everything that it is. It's a Laborghini. God,

it's a Laborghini for God's sake. I mean me a

coon tash any day by the way. I say that,

but I probably have to just stare at it because I've driven one in there. They're not the most pleasant

thing to drive. They're hard anyway. Besides the point getting

off track. So let's just say you had a Laborghin

and you bought it because it is a Laborghini. That's

the reason why you bought the car. And then you

find out the next day that you paid all this money for a Laborghini, and you think you're part of this exclusive club of having a cool Laborghini. And then

you find out that Hondi got the rights to put the body of a Laborghini on a Hondi at a Hondi price and set up, and then now they're gonna drive around Laborghini. What did I just say, cars? I

know what you said, get it, but hold on cars very similar. I get it. That's why I said that

your explanation kind of things. But now that you think

you're a part of the Laborghini club, and now the guy pulls up next to you and he looks like exactly like a Laborghini when he pulls it like, except underneath his is a Hondi, and you're no longer part of the same club. He's got his own little Hondi club.

But he looked just like you. You would be upset too,

because you're like, Okay, well, now I'm not part of that exclusive club anymore, because nobody really can tell the difference other than fact unless we sit down and we have a conversation about it. Well, now, when somebody pulls

up to use the Tesla pumper, you gotta wait now behind the guy's in the GM or the guy that's in the ford, because he's at the superstation. When you

thought you were a part of the exclusive Tesla club, I mean, yeah, but you're still a Tesla. You're not.

You are you are, but you've lost that exclusivetivity to the point where you were buying into the whole idea of just being.

Speaker 3: So you already answered on commercial break, how about you, Nathaniel, would you think it's fair if the manufacturers said, yes, we're going to share all of our chargers. Give me

one second.

Speaker 2: So I'm talking to cameras. Cara and I are talkers

of like in care I looked at Cameron. I realized

that what the screens or freezing ca Caro loss all this track, So anyway where you say they're Karen.

Speaker 3: Was like, hold on, hi ya, I'm.

Speaker 2: Trying to do my job talking at the same time.

I don't know if I could do all that.

Speaker 3: Hold on all right, so we're good, you.

Speaker 2: Said, imagine hold onel, so.

Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine if all the manufacturers came out and they said, if you use the respected manufacturer charger, you pay let's just say regular gas price right right now, if you went to a outsource just like the ATMs, do they charge a three dollars convenient fee? You know, why can't

the superchargers do that? You know, that would keep the

traffic away a little bit. I got it. But here's

but then the people that were in a pinch and needed to use the charger because they only have ten miles, and now they have to go to their respected manufacturer, you know, all the stuff that everybody's been to tell you.

Speaker 2: What the problem is with that thought. Here's the problem

with that thought. I get what you're saying, and I've

let you speak and I've been silent because I understand what your thought is. The problem with your thought, Cameron,

is is very simple. You're thinking from the business owner's side,

not from the guys who bought the teslas, who bought into the idea of Tesla. Every answer that both of

you guys would give me to a certain degree is from the business owner side of making money.

Speaker 5: No, it's not not mine, maybe one percent. But you know,

my argument was on basically comparing like right.

Speaker 2: Gas the the side that the side that I'm on is the guy who owns a Tesla, who bought into the idea of I'm buying exclusively own a Tesla. The

answer hold on, the answer you're giving me from is solving the problem from a business owner's perspective of well, we'll just raise the prices and then holding I think that's a bad idea.

Speaker 3: That's okay.

Speaker 2: Just you understand, I'm talking about the business idea, not not the guy who's simple decided to buy a Tesla.

Speaker 3: Let's give you guys exclusive again, but still share the chargers.

Would you guys be down if you could reserve the charger, if you knew you needed a charge and you needed to and you could hit reserve and now you have fifteen minutes to get that charge or whatever time.

Speaker 2: Mater of fact. At a certain point, the minute that

it came up for conversation, and people who drive Tesla's start having conversations and then weighing in on it, and now we're talking about it the damage to a certain point for certain people. It's not for some people don't care.

But are there certain people who do the damage? Sorry, don't.

Speaker 5: Once it becomes conversed, I think it's okay. I yeah,

I think you guys are graping on it a little too hard.

Speaker 2: I'm not graping on it. I'm discussing what people out

there are discussing.

Speaker 5: Right well, I think they're graping on it a little too hard because at a certain point, it's like, like I was saying, like the gas stations is like, you know, seven eleven can't just carry premium and everybody else just carry regular in mid grade. It has kind of be

even on all the boards. So it's like you're giving

a fair shared to other electric cars, especially if Tesla's are.

Speaker 2: You're doing a fair share. You're giving a fair share

nobody thought was already THEIRS, and now you're taking.

Speaker 3: It from it.

Speaker 5: Doesn't change the test. You're just changing who can charge

their vehicle and where you're not.

Speaker 2: People and the Tesla people believed that that was THEIRS. Well,

you took something from them away from them. That's what

they believe. Because they're right though, because that was theirs.

It was nobody else was up to speed, and that was theirs, and you took it and gave it away and you didn't ask. Now, granted you probably didn't need to,

but as far as they're concerned, you did.

Speaker 3: It was theirs. You took.

Speaker 2: You went into their sandbox, took their toys and went, well, here, why don't you play with why don't you play with these guys toys? Why they're not looking out? So they

went and they came back the next day and went, well, who the hell took my dump truck? And then you

see the kid over at GM is playing with it, with the guy's dump truck, and he's like, that's my dump truck. And then you got Tesla going, don't you

don't there's nothing to see here. That isn't your dump truck.

I mean, that's what happened. That's literally that's what happened.

That's that's that's what happened to them. So you can

understand to a degree why they're upset. Right, they just

went home for the day for recess and came back in the next recess somebody had all their toys out of their sandbox and was playing with them. Because that

was their toys.

Speaker 5: I can I can understand it, but I think it's a little I think it's best for both worlds.

Speaker 2: It probably is because of infrastructure. So I understand why

Tesla decided to do it. Like I said, I know

how to look at both sides of things and understand that.

I believe a lot of decisions Tesla has made has been the right decision moving forward. A lot of times

I've been stuck in the middle of these arguments through all these years. Why I support Tesla, I'm like, look,

let's step back and think they're very smart. I think

Ean has made a lot of great decisions when people have argued with them, just like this point right here, and it's always moved forward, and it usually comes out to where he's decisions he's made has been the right decisions at the end, and he usually the one sitting there laughing about it. Let's be honest. That usually happens, guys. Yeah,

So but this one right here, I got to say that I do understand where they're coming from. In the

end result, would this be the right decision for the stockholders problem? Maybe you will be somehow on the end,

somehow this may pan out and be one a really good decision. But the people who just bought the cars

because they bought think they were buying into something that was exclusive. I can understand where they're coming from. A

lot of them are coming from there.

Speaker 3: I have another thing, right, you take all the chargers.

Let's say you go to one lot and they have ten chargers. Okay, Well, what happens if we took seven

of those chargers, painted them all like in the color?

Speaker 2: Will paintest charge a different color?

Speaker 3: No, I'm not painting the chargers. Paint the parking spots

all red, right, and with the Tesla logo. And then

you make this I know they can do it where you can program it where that charger can only charge Teslas unless the other manifacturers make the other manufacturers wait, you know where they have to wait for those three extra spots to come available. And then you still have

your set seven where you know you can come with Teslas.

Speaker 2: Cool.

Speaker 3: Cool, how about that you still have your certain spots.

Speaker 2: But hear what you're saying.

Speaker 3: You're opening the Tesla market just a little.

Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. So what camera is suggesting

is you're the guy that came to my house and stole my bike, took it to your house and spray painted with a rattle can the color that you chose to, and then tried to tell me it wasn't my bike.

That's what Cameron just did. You came to my house,

stole my bike, spray painted with spray paint, and then said it's your bike because you spray.

Speaker 3: Painted, Well, you can go borrow the bike.

Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that's all you did. It's still

my bike, buddy. I don't care what color you spray painted.

You stole my bike, it's still my bike. It doesn't

matter what color you spray painted. You stole my bike.

Speaker 3: I've given you the bike anytime you want, anytime you look your.

Speaker 2: Own your own. You stole my bike, spray painted color

and tried tell me it wasn't my bike just because you changed the handlebars on?

Speaker 3: Did it take the full bike? I just took a wheel,

all right, like you or not even a wheel.

Speaker 2: You're never gonna convince You're not gonna convince me. You're

not can convince them. They they know you took something

from them that they valued.

Speaker 3: I understand, but go to a Tesla Charger right now?

And are they all full.

Speaker 2: No, you can, guy, you can get and you can't find one.

Speaker 3: Right was on something, Okay, He's like, I'm gonna put.

Speaker 2: Your waas on something.

Speaker 3: The other day I was like, you can open up a hole. I told him we were walking on the wall.

Speaker 10: You can open up a right next door and then still be packed. But he's not wrong though, I'm not like,

I don't know, I don't know what they They injected our wall into something and it's it's packed all the time. Now,

keep in mind our wall is the last wah wall before anything as you go out of town.

Speaker 2: But still like, it's.

Speaker 3: Crazy, but you'll make the business.

Speaker 2: Yeah that that.

Speaker 3: By the way, we just mentioned charging.

Speaker 2: Stations are full. Yeah, I cannot get my check now.

I had to say it five times in an episode.

I think I took care of it. I'm kidding, but seriously,

it's full all the time. The charging stations are full

and there's people wait in line to get charged. So

we know that the infrastructure is changing and we need more and obviously that's the reason why maybe this is coming about. Because there's a lot more cars getting online.

They're not just Tesla and we don't have the country's not ready for it, and Tesla was the only one that's been gearing up and nobody else has been. So

I understand how this all plays out. I just say,

I can understand why there's mad people out there.

Speaker 3: It just so happens to be the test if it was if it wasn't Tesla, let me ask you a question.

If it wasn't Tesla and GM was it, it would be GM people. Let me ask you a whole other question,

But it relates to this. Do you think them doing

this is now going to make it where no other competitor can now come bigger than them because they now are opening up their charges that everybody's going to want to support a Tesla.

Speaker 2: I wish I could answer that. Time is going to

tell I wish I could answer that and tell you how it is. I just know that the country is

not ready for what's coming as we move forward, and I think that Tesla has jumped in to try to help solve a problem and maybe cause just a little bit of backlash on themselves as they try, as they are truly trying to solve a problem. That's how I

see it. That's my fine answer to see that. I

think they did so like I said, I think that he has foresight way ahead of a lot of things, and people aren't seeing it that way. We debated it

the best we could hear at the table. I think

you did a very good job of tearing it apart.

But at the end of the day, we'll see on that. No, guys,

it's Saturday. Enjoy your guys' Saturday. Sunday is right around

the corner. Make sure that you do unplug, spend some

time with your kids. Make sure you take their cell

phones away from miden and the couch. Christians, put them

in the fish tank. I don't know, do something. Just

make sure that you spend some time with them. Light

up the barbecue, have a fireplace, some board games. Do

it all. Remember this is a little vacation time for me,

so I will be enjoying my vacation. TI I see

you guys next time, I said, I'll tune with you guys and let you guys know how it goes. Maybe

I see some cool cars and I'll let you guys know.

On that note, we're gonna go ahead and get out here.

We'll talk to you soon, guys. Jury weekend, Jury weekend,

We're out of here. Later

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