You know, so and then if one of them drops out and doesn't and doesn't fire,
then it'll drop down and it'll be like at zero, right?
So you'll see like this huge swing like all the way down and then back up.
So I would check, again, converters not going to cause that.
Mass airflow sensor could cause a running issue, but not like a misfire type
bucking, jerking, kind of, you know, running bad.
That's not it'll it'll bog down, right?
So you might like hit the gas and just goes and you don't it won't move.
But it won't cause what you're experiencing.
And again, the purge valve of
the solenoid won't cause a running issue as well.
So I think you have now, again, on a misfire,
a couple of things real quick, you know, sometimes you could sit there.
What I would recommend is, hey, let's get on Carfax or you can even call me on.
You can call me any day this week.
I can't do it from here, but you call me any day this week.
You give me your license plate.
I can run a Carfax report and I can tell you if it's been tuned up or not.
Very easily. Yeah.
You just give me just give me your license plate number.
I don't need it now.
I'm saying call me at at work and you can just tell them when
just say, hey, I spoke to Dan on the radio on the radio.
He told me to call all I need is your license plate.
I can run a Carfax report on it and find out if it's been tuned up.
If not, that's where we need to go.
So what I recommend to whether it's at that shop or any other shop,
make sure whether being a Cadillac, make sure you buy AC Delco spark
plugs, AC Delco coil.
So you might be one of those things where you're going to have to replace
because if there's if there's no codes in there, there's the, you know,
the mechanic, whether you bring it to me or anybody else,
they're not going to have anything to go off of, right?
I mean, I can see it on us if they have the proper tools,
they can run it, drive it and if it acts up,
they'll be able to see which cylinder is misfiring and acting up.
But you you replace the spark plugs, all the spark plugs and all the coils.
Now, that's very expensive.
You don't necessarily have to do that, but you cover all your bases, right?
But it's going to be very expensive to go that route.
So you want it on a scan tool and you want them to run, you know,
you want them to run it, figure out exactly what's cause and which ones cause that.
Now, let's just say you replace the spark plugs and you do replace the coils
and it's still acting up.
Well, an injector could be could be bad and cause that as well.
Now, injectors are extremely expensive to install and put in
99% of the time, it's never an injector.
It's always a spark plug or coil issue and at 180,000 miles,
you probably have one or multiple ignition coils that are failing
because their job is to send the spark to the spark plug.
But over time, if the plugs are wore out,
that ignition coils having to work harder and harder and harder because,
you know, it's having to produce more spark for that spark plug
because it's wore out, right?
So if I were you, I replace all the spark plugs, all the coils again,
expensive, but I would get AC Delco parts
because coils are, you know, you can get them on.
You can go to Amazon and find a whole pack of them for 100 bucks.
And you're going to be like, oh, you know, but if you buy an AC Delco one,
you're going to probably pay 125, 150 bucks a piece.
And you got eight of them or I don't know if it's a six cylinder.
It's a six. OK, so, you know, so that's that's what I would do.
And that's where I would start for sure.
But like I said, if you call me on Monday, give me your license plate.
And I can run a car fax report.
We can find out if it's been done, if it's not, that's where we need to start.
Wow. So that the coils and the plugs that would be that would give you
the intermittent type of deal where it's absolutely fine. Absolutely. Yep.
Absolutely. So so so that's really, really so typically
when you have a spark plug issue, it's going to be there.
It's it's going to be what we call a dead miss.
It's going to be there pretty much all the time.
Where on a coil, it'll be intermittent, right?
You'll drive it for, you know, you drive it from here to Florida,
not had a problem with it.
And then all of a sudden you started up tomorrow morning
and you're going to the grocery store, man, that's bucking, it's jerking, it's running.
And that's what they that's what they do.
A lot of times they'll run they'll run worse to when it's
cold or if it's raining because of the moisture, but very, very indicative, very.
It sounds to me like you've got a coil issue.
And again, if there's no codes in the computer,
then it's never going to flag one.
So that's why I'm like, hey, just cover your bases,
do the tune up, replace all the coils, buy good, good quality coil.
You cover all your bases.
And that's the other thing real quick, real quick on that converter code.
Did he give you a code as far as like a PO 420 or anything like that?
Did I don't remember that?
I actually went out and he said, I took it off and if it comes back,
bring it back and it was probably an efficiency code,
meaning that the converter is not the converter acts as a furnace
and any unburned fuel in the exhaust, it burns off inside there.
So it's probably just not doing that.
But I will tell you if a converter is plugged up.
Now, you'll never get a code for this.
But if a converter is plugged up where it's, you know, complete,
the car can't breathe, right?
The exhaust can't come back up in the cylinder and cause a misfire.
But it doesn't.
I mean, it's going to again, it's going to be like a dead miss.
It's it's it's not going to be one of those things
where it's going to be hit or miss.
It's going to do it all the time.
So I think you just need you probably have one or multiple coils
that are acting up.
So, dude, that's some good suggestions and guesses there for me.
So thank you. Thank you. You're very welcome.
All right. Well, you have a great weekend.
Enjoy. Enjoy the weather.
Uh-huh. Bye-bye.
That's the thing that these cars can be they can be tricky.
He certainly can.
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Remember to call 513-749-5500 Dane Donovan here
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I apologize for the hesitation there.
I was yawning, getting old.
I have to take naps in the middle of the day.
So let's go back to the phones.
We have Missy.
Hey, Missy, welcome to the car show.
How can I help?
Hi, thanks for taking my call.
I have a 2016 Honda CR-V all-wheel drive.
It has about 64,000 miles on it.
And I keep up with the maintenance on it at a reliable place.
And I've had to replace the battery three separate times.
One time was 12-16 of 22, then 9-11 of 24,
then just recently, August 18th of 25.
Of course, I take it to reliable places, but not
the dealership.
And I'm curious.
They have both said this most recent time I took it
just to get another opinion.
And they're all coming up with,
they can't find what's wrong.
All the draw tests were done to the specifications
of Honda.
They were fine.
So I'm having to take it to Honda.
Can you tell me what can I expect and the cost?
And what happens if they tell me, though they
can't find anything?
Well, that's a great point.
So I'm going to ask you a couple of questions.
On the vehicle itself, is it a daily driver?
Are you driving it daily?
Does it sit for long periods of time?
It doesn't necessarily have to be driven every day.
But I mean, is it driven at least a couple of times a week?
Yes.
OK.
Yes, it is.
All right.
So maybe 50 miles a week.
OK.
50 to 100.
100's max.
OK.
And then does the car sit outside or is it sitting
in a garage?
In a garage.
OK.
And then is there anything that is plugged into the cigarette
lighter, a cell phone charger or anything like that?
Never.
OK.
All right.
Good.
Good.
And then as far as the three batteries that you had replaced,
you don't have to give any names or like that.
But is the battery, do you know what kind of battery,
like the brand of the battery?
Delco.
Delco.
OK.
That's weird.
OK.
AC Delco.
OK.
That's a good battery.
OK.
And then as far as those three batteries that have been
replaced, did they replace those under warranty or are you charged
for those all three of those batteries?
No.
They've been replaced under warranty.
OK.
OK.
Good.
So, you know, and most recently when you go out,
of course it just clicks and then it's completely dead.
So I know how to jump it myself.
Good for you.
But so I just, you know, I'm sort of at a loss.
I don't want to take it to the dealership,
but I don't know what they're going to say.
What can I expect?
Yeah.
So, you know, what happens if they tell me,
we don't see anything wrong?
Well, they're going to probably tell you that.
I'm just not to pick on them.
OK.
But here's what happens.
So a lot of the times you can have what's called a intermittent
electrical draw, right?
So there might be a short and a wire.
There might be short and a ball.
There might be a short in the radio.
OK.
Meaning that at any point.
So you might have that thing parked in the garage, right?
In the middle of the night, the radio comes on and then drains
the battery, right?
And then you jump it, take it to the dealer.
Radio is working fine.
They do their tests and they're like, hey,
we can't find anything.
Not to say that it's not there, but you could be dealing with
what's called an intermittent electrical draw.
Something possibly in the car could be drawing the battery down
that you're not aware of it, right?
Again, you know, I had a vehicle.
I had an F-150 not too long ago.
The battery would just die overnight.
So I literally parked it underneath one of my security cameras
at work and right like two o'clock in the morning,
the dash, the radio, everything came on and then the car
died, right?
It would just come on because there was an intermittent
electrical short.
So they can run every test in the book and not find anything
wrong.
So probably, I will tell you, if you'd get it there,
even if you take it to the dealer, they're going to probably
tell you the same thing.
They can't find anything wrong.
Not to say that there isn't something going on,
but they're probably not going to be able to find anything.
It's one of those things where I hate to say it,
but it's kind of like a needle in the haystack.
It has to be acting up for them to try to actively find
what's causing that battery to die.
Now, do you have, to your knowledge, do you have Bluetooth
capability where you can take hands-free, like you can take
a phone call through the radio or through the vehicle,
the car itself?
Yeah, but I don't use it.
OK.
So and I try and turn off my radio and my air.
I've been doing this a little more when I get out of the car
for the night.
OK.
OK.
So here's why I asked about the Bluetooth.
So Honda and Acura, right?
They're the same company.
They're Acura's just, you know, more expensive Honda, right?
But they're Bluetooth, what's called the Bluetooth module.
There's a computer, a module that runs that system.
OK.
And very, very commonly that Bluetooth module will fail
internally and cause a battery draw or an electrical draw.
Now, usually when those fail, they have a constant draw and
most repair shops would be able to find that immediately.
But that's something that maybe have them look at and just
say, hey, look, here's the problem.
Here's what here's what I'm dealing with.
And you also maybe just check the Bluetooth module again.
It's for your hands free phone.
Have them check that again.
Or what we typically do.
So it's so expensive to replace it.
And like you said, you alluded to like, hey, I don't use it.
So what we do at at Donovan's, we just unplug it.
It's all you got to do.
You get you find the module, you unplug it.
Boom, you're done.
You just don't have hands free rate of phone, but it stops
your draw.
Right.
Yeah.
So.
Okay.
But have them check that that's a very, very common problem
on Hondas.
But again, if please, you know, I know it's frustrating, but
you know, don't lose faith in the dealer or wherever you're
taking it.
It can be one of those things.
I mean, we found a short one time underneath the carpet
underneath the seat, right?
And it's like, how does that even happen?
But it happens, you know, but if you've put three batteries
in it in that short amount of time, something may
intermittently be drawing that battering and, you know, kind
of the other thing that you can do too, if you're like, Dane,
took it to the dealer, you know, I'm so frustrated.
I don't want to have to be stranded or have to jump my
car constantly.
You can buy and you can go on Amazon or anywhere else.
You can buy what's called a trickle charger.
I have that already.
A trickle charger.
Or just a, so you're like plugging it into the wall.
Like when you pull it in the garage, you're plugging it
into the wall.
Yeah.
Well, but I, I use it as a backup for my tractor when
I have to start my tractor.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
Well, if you know, are you saying that then now I am
going to be driving my car a little bit more, but are
you saying that I should do the trickle charger every
night?
Yeah.
I mean, have it charged to the wall every night now?
No.
Well, it's just, it's just an option.
You don't have to.
I'm just saying it's an option for you.
If you've, you've got nowhere with the dealer and
any other repair shop, your, an option is you could
plug in a trickle charger and just make sure it,
it maintains that battery so you don't get stranded
again.
So I'm so sorry.
I've got to get going.
Missy, good luck.
Call me back.
See you next weekend.
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About this episode
Dane Donovan discusses various automotive issues, including a charity initiative where a 2013 Subaru Outback is being given away to someone in need. He answers listener questions about car maintenance, including diagnosing a misfiring Cadillac CTS and recurring battery issues in a Honda CR-V. The episode emphasizes the importance of quality parts and proper diagnostics, while also sharing personal anecdotes about family and community involvement. Listeners are encouraged to call in with their car questions.