{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"The Cars That Best Hold Their Value: Ep 122","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/the-cars-that-best-hold-their-value-ep-122","audioUrl":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/VERTICALSCOPEINC5725386617.mp3","description":"This week Mike sits down with Karl from iSeeCars.com to discuss which makes and models are holding their value the best in terms of resale. There are some surprising entries at the top, and bottom, of this list. \n\nLater, Mike reviews the VIOFO A329S 3CH Dash Cam which includes three separate cameras and a ton of features. Finally, in the mailbag, we discuss some of the best vehicles to take on your next camping trip, regardless of how you head out into the woods. \nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices"},"annotations":[{"startTime":335.9,"endTime":341.38,"type":"car","title":"Subaru Uncharted","url":"/cars/subaru/uncharted","image":"https://s3.amazonaws.com/subarumedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/libraryImages/2026_Subaru_Uncharted_01__mid.jpg","quote":"So I was just looking because I love the new Subaru Uncharted that they just brought out as an EV, even as it's just small, it's pretty affordable. 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The host specifically calls out the four-door version for camping because it has surprising cargo space and can handle getting deep into rough areas."}},{"startTime":1710.0,"endTime":1722.78,"type":"car","title":"Chevrolet Suburban","url":"/cars/chevrolet/suburban","image":"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/2017_Chevrolet_Suburban_LT%2C_Rear_Right%2C_09-11-2021.jpg","quote":"If you're more of a travel trailer type person, can't go wrong with a Chevrolet Suburban. It can tow a lot and carry a lot of people.","canonicalId":"car:chevrolet:suburban","priority":0.55,"confidence":0.95,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"The Chevrolet Suburban is a full-size SUV known for large passenger capacity and strong towing capability. 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The host recommends it for camping if you want to bring a travel trailer and still have room for everyone.","imageAttribution":"Elise240SX (CC BY-SA 4.0)"}},{"startTime":1729.0,"endTime":1733.7,"type":"car","title":"Ford Maverick","url":"/cars/ford/maverick","image":"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/2022_Ford_Maverick_Lariat_FWD_Ecoboost.jpg","quote":"If big SUVs and big pickups are too much but you still want to tow a decent amount, [1729.0s] the Ford Maverick, it can tow up to 4,000 pounds and it still seats four people and with a cover\n[1733.7s] over the bed, it has a lot of storage space and then you can also have that trailer off the back.","canonicalId":"car:ford:maverick","priority":0.55,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"The Ford Maverick is a compact pickup designed to be easier to live with than bigger trucks, but still able to tow a useful amount. 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It drives like a big wagon and lots of space.\n[1756.1s] It's one of my favorite choices.","canonicalId":"car:volvo:v90","priority":0.6,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"The Volvo V90 Cross Country is a wagon built with SUV-like capability cues, aimed at people who want cargo space and comfort without giving up off-road-ish practicality. The host specifically calls out its over-eight-inches ground clearance and describes how it drives like a big wagon with lots of space—useful for camping gear.","imageAttribution":"Herranderssvensson (CC BY-SA 3.0)"}},{"startTime":1750.8,"endTime":1756.1,"type":"term","title":"ground clearance","url":"/glossary/ground-clearance","quote":"[1750.8s] It's got over eight inches of ground clearance. It drives like a big wagon and lots of space.\n[1756.1s] It's one of my favorite choices. 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