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In Wheel Time Podcast: Your Go-To Automotive Talk Show
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In Wheel Time Podcast: Your Go-To Automotive Talk Show · Aug 24, 2023
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Welcome to another In-Wheel Time podcast, a 30-minute mini version of the In-Wheel Time car show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am, central From the Sugar Shack World headquarters.
It's the In-Wheel Time car talk show.
The company's called Drive Down and they claim it's an all-new way to buy and sell cars.
We ask questions.
Jeff has a segment on high-temperature cars, inside Conrad has the racing calendar and the car clinic and later we discuss the stories making auto news headlines.
This week we're sitting in the backyard watching Mars enjoying a Bud Light, drink some free buds and talk about each other.
I invite you to join us on this 4th of July weekend blow-up of the In-Wheel Time car talk show, along with Mike out of this world Mars down there on his computer.
We need more Jeff Zekin King, conrad DeLong and I'm.
Don Armstrong, it's good to have you with us.
Yeah, I thought well it's good to be here.
Steer it up as.
Johnny Nash used to say Steer it up, so it's all good.
Are we ready?
Most of Mars?
Not yet.
No, we're not ready Cook a minor little pause.
Yeah, he's been working on it.
We had a computer that crashed this morning, and so for our guest that is standing by, just keep standing by or sit by.
Right sitting there with his hands crossed.
It looks like he's praying.
He's praying as well.
There you go, we can clearly hear us, because he just laughed.
Yeah, well, that's good.
I don't know why we can't hear him, but oh, you can't.
Well, I haven't turned him on yet, I'll pot him up, let's see.
Okay, let's talk to our guest right now, and I don't know if I write his name down.
I don't know if I did.
It's Mitch.
It's Mitch, sure, yeah, mitch, can you hear us?
He can hear us.
He can hear us, but we can't hear him.
Have you unmuted yourself, mitch, check and see if you're unmuted, he's not muted.
I think it's.
It's a system.
Oh, Mars doesn't have all of his buttons pushed over here.
So, mitch, you just stand by.
Buddy, we'll be with you in just a minute.
Okay, yes, perfect, thank you Not yet Link three times if you're in distress.
We're going to knock three times on the ceiling, if you love me.
There you go.
We're going to do the interview via Morse code.
We are.
So I'll just give you a little preview.
Drive down a curated online automotive marketplace revolutionizing the enthusiast car buying experience with this unique top down pricing approach, cleveland based company founded by two car phonetics aims to disrupt the traditional car buying and selling process, providing a seamless and transparent experience for both buyers and sellers.
Another disruptor, a disruptor kind of like us.
Well, the you know that's always good because it brings a new point of view to whatever business they're in that they're trying to.
It shakes up the market to you.
Yeah.
Well, that's good.
You know we have tons of car news and that fact we've got a whole I got a whole section just for buzz Smith is going to join us later today.
Oh good About electrics, that is a better fact this week.
I'm just got delivery on Thursday of the key EV sick.
It's a good looking car from behind at night because it's got that wrap around rear tail light assembly the thing I looked at when you were backing up the driveway.
It's got that one white backup light on the bottom.
That's just, I don't know, not bright enough, no, it's too bright.
It just doesn't fit.
It's just like some ball back there to me.
Anyway, probably what it is, it's just a ball.
No, it doesn't flow with the design it doesn't flow with the design of your lights.
I understand what you're saying.
You want there.
You want one like the 19,.
The Chevy Chevy Impala had the two white lights on either side of the license plate, is that?
what you're looking for.
I'm not obtrusive because it looks, looks not in style with the rest of the car.
Exactly yeah, it only works when it goes in reverse.
You know how stylish I am.
Yeah, I know we can tell by your shirt.
Yeah, look at that, the shirt you've got on today.
He's got his fourth of July shirt on.
Thank you, david Pitch.
My son-in-law got me this shirt.
Fireworks hamburgers, hot dogs ketchup.
You S-A.
Ketchup is from lunch.
U-s-a.
That's it and I'm wearing them.
Thank you.
Doodle and I'm wearing Mutz cuts today.
Yeah, it's a good one.
I figured you know why not celebrate the dog.
The dog, the Seuss, seuss, is over there.
She's not happy, she's laying on the concrete.
Well, here's the problem is because, you know, the air conditioning systems of every place in the world are really straining to keep it cool.
Now we've had this thing running Well for at least 14, 16 hours and the studio here and it's just barely acceptable.
So in the three hours of this show that we've got coming up, I can only think that it's going to be real really, really creepy, and a little bit of clock Limit your breathing.
Oh yeah, that makes sense.
Don't breathe.
Consider yourself on a submarine, limit your breathing and and we'll be okay, I'm gonna talk about submarines.
You know that thing that imploded at the Titanic.
I think somebody over the screen.
What a waste.
Yeah well, I think that the guy was way over his head that designed that thing.
There's no way that thing could have ever survived it had been down there 30 times and you know as well as I do all of that even though the metal is probably that thick, yeah, but each time it goes down and up, the metal compresses expands presses, expands.
It's like an aircraft.
It's like an airplane same thing and eventually you get metal fatigue, and that very well may have been what caused its failure.
Yeah, it was.
I'm sure that they'll try to find out exactly what happened.
Well, they found pieces of it.
I think they brought pieces up from the bottom.
Oh, they did including body parts, from what I understand.
I didn't think that there was anything left of them, allegedly yeah.
Well what's that?
You know what when?
Mars, we're gonna get this.
When Mars has scored a victory.
Here's what Mars does, because he do Woo-hoo Okay well, why don't you, why don't?
You put on your headset real headset.
Oh, he's gone.
Now let's talk to him.
He went to the market.
He's not there anymore.
Okay, mitch, sure can you hear us.
Well, good because I can't hear you.
I don't, I don't, we're gonna go to the computer.
We just need to Put your microphone on the computer, then yeah so at any rate, we can hear you.
We just need to get it from Mars over here, and then it goes to our ears.
So if you'll just give us a few seconds, we apologize.
We go through this quite frequently on this program.
This is no not lately.
Well, it has been a while.
Great to feedback.
Do what he's putting his nevermind.
Okay, will you just keep doing what you're doing over there?
No, no, but I need you have to keep in mind that.
Well, okay, he is there, you go, he's on.
But at any rate, I just thought that whole thing has fascinated me Because I've never heard of such a thing An implosion of, basically, a submarine, and we were talking before we went on the air the mechanical side of it and what happens with the pressures once you go below, well, below the surface, because right here we're at about 15 PSI as we live and breathe
, but it doesn't take much to go down just a few feet and all of a sudden, oh my gosh, and down there, unbelievably.
I watched a video.
Guy was explaining the pressure of taking a two by four and putting it across your chest.
And the deeper you go the pressure on your chest just with the two by four.
It got to long before you got to the Titanic.
It got to more than 9,000 pounds of pressure on your chest with the two by four.
Unbelievable.
And the opposite of that is going to space because it explodes rather than implodes.
Right, because your low pressure, the higher an altitude you get.
You know one way to kind of visualize it and people may or may not have visualized this.
You know you have the old metal.
One gallon square gas can.
Well, if you empty it out and you set it out in the sun and then cool it off real quick, you'll watch that gas can kind of collapse down.
Well, they were doing stuff like that with train cars, tank train cars.
They were showing how they implode and sucking the air, the pressure out of it, to show the what happens.
Yeah, I saw a picture of one that had imploded on the face of the earth.
Yeah, Well, that's because the pressure inside is lower than the pressure outside, to the point of metal failure.
Yeah, structural failure.
Yeah, total and you think that all the cylinders are built to hold all of that, not only just the pressure of the liquid inside it creating that force on the outside of it, but with all of what is combustible or that sort of stuff, fumes inside there can increase exponentially.
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's.
I fascinated by it.
One thing that I could relate to with the car aspect of it is OK, how much pressure can you put on the inside of an engine?
60 pounds per square inch and a top fuel dragster?
Yeah, as far as forced air, yeah, forced air Supercharger 60 psi, and that doesn't include.
And you're putting it into a 12 to one compression piston cylinder itself.
So now you're what 60 times 12 is.
Well, there's other things to consider.
9600.
There's water grains.
There's 960.
There's, you know, is it mean sea level?
You know all that, All of that.
Temperature has a variable as well.
Right and it's it's pressures that we deal with and you know, I don't know how, I'm not certainly an expert at any stretch of the imagination about these big explosions and stuff that happened over in the ship channel area with all of the refineries over there, but somehow flying around and filming them.
Yeah, flying around, hope you don't get too close Exactly, but I will tell you that from my experience inside those plants which is very limited, but you know, when you're in there and the plant is running they are thousands of gallons a minute running through those pipes the whole thing shakes with all of the product that's running through there.
So they have one little hiccup and it could be disastrous.
Quickly, quickly, very quickly, if a valve doesn't open at the right time when they're shifting products around.
I mean it's, it's terrifying if you stop to think about it, but if you're standing there, yeah, all the pipes are shaking and all that Even more terrifying?
Well, no, it's really not, but there are areas that they don't let you go.
Even employees.
They don't let it in there unless they shut that area of the plant down.
It's that dangerous?
Wow, yeah, it's.
It's quite intimidating.
Intimidating, so like walking in the green room here is very, you know it is.
Well, you know, think about it.
Fluid.
They use fluid pressure like water jet cutting.
They use water at you know, 15, 16,000 psi to cut metal.
Yes, you know.
So you know, when you focus that pressure on one finite little point, it's pretty easy to use it to do stuff.
But you know you don't want to have it at that pressure and you not have it under control.
I have him potted up over here.
By the way, and I hate to use the word potted up, that's an old radio term.
That doesn't mean what you think it means.
You're an old radio guy and back then it did.
Well, there's that, but a pot is short for potentiometer.
Randy Bortcharding is watching Hi.
Randy, and it used to be.
You just turn the knob to increase volume and that sort of stuff.
What was it?
What?
do you call it again Potentiometer?
It's like a volume button.
Volume switch.
Yeah, it was a knob back in the day.
I got some good potentiometer.
Come for your daughter, Chuck.
You're feeling better, I am.
I feel great.
That's good.
I'm glad to hear that Surgery work.
Awesome.
Went to a proctologist for migraines.
It's not even.
Ford Motor Company is recalling certain 2019 through 2020 fusion PHEV models for loss of power and fire risks.
Oops Thermal events.
Thermal events Owners are advised not to charge their vehicle until the remedy is completed.
According to a Ford filing with NHTSA, if charged, the battery energy control module might become damaged because of excessive voltage and current flow.
Number of potential vehicles affected 14,452.1
.
There have been seven fires and 270 warranty claims.
According to the filing, a remedy for the power loss and fire risk is underdevelopment.
Interim letters Notifying owners of the safety risk are expected to be mailed July the 10th.
According to the filing, I wonder if that's kind of in the same vein when Chevrolet had the bolt.
Uh for him.
They told people don't park it in your garage.
They don't drive it, to sit it out there in the yard.
Well, that seems to be the first and get the chocolate, marshmallows and graham crackers the first thing that they tell you is don't park it in the garage.
It's like number one, and even not only just General Motors you know there's a house over in first colony not too far from here that, uh, clearly there was a garage fire and the garage had a, um, a walkway, a covered walkway that connected the garage to the house.
Mm hmm, went right to the house because it was just a straight furnace pipe right into the house Through that.
Yeah, exactly, burned the entire back of the house and clearly the garage to the ground and, uh, you know, insurance and all that stuff.
It's taken them almost well over a year.
They're just about finished with the repairs, but, my gosh, talk about ruining your life.
Ever been involved in any kind of fire?
Don't want to.
I did, uh, and here in Houston, when I worked for General Motors, we did uh, I was the person that did the incident investigations, so it was the form was called the 1241.
So somebody said that, hey, my car caught fire in my garage and burned my house.
I was one of the people who went to do the inspection.
And, uh, they had a couple of them here in town and I had to do the inspection.
Not fun, you know.
Not fun for a multitude of reasons.
Not fun just because you have to see the loss and devastation somebody's experienced.
Not fun because while I'm there, I have to ask permission to be there and as soon as you get permission, everybody's attorney shows up.
So every, every note I take, every jot I put down on paper, I have to provide documentation to the plaintiff's attorney because you know it's going to go to a lawsuit.
So it's uh, not fun at all.
And then you know you just got to make sure you write down the facts as you see them and nothing else.
You know I don't no opinion.
I don't know how many cars are actually in this area of Texas that you would call the Houston area.
I don't know how many millions.
Oh, I would say millions, that's four or five million, yeah, and I will tell you that it's a truly amazing the number of car fires every day in this city.
Most of them happen on the roadway, on the highway, on the car Bacuse, carbacuse, yeah, exactly.
And once you know, it takes a while for the fire department to get there because you've already got a backup, so they've got to fight all the traffic to get to the fire and then put it out.
And by that time and most of the time, at least I'll say most of the time it's being fueled by whatever gas lean is in the vehicle.
So that makes the fire go faster.
And all the manufacturers have changed their fuel delivery systems to composite materials so as soon as a fire starts, the plastic melts and the fuel escapes quicker.
Yeah, you know it's not.
It's not contained anymore.
Like years ago, you know, you'd see the movies that all of a sudden the car would blow up.
Generally that was because they had a.
My opinion was they had a metal fuel tank that eventually would expand and all the gas would escape at once.
Now that plastic tank leaks and the fuel drains out on the ground and that's what fuels the fire.
Yep.
I've seen some.
But driving around town every now and then you'll see that little black stain on the side of the highway that somebody's car caught fire there and if you look at it close enough you know you can see parts of the car just melted, stuck to the ground.
I did a oh gosh, this was.
I was in small town, Kentucky, north of Paduca.
Oh, and it was a an Oldsmobile, Aurora, and the guy said it caught fire and I had to go look at it.
And so I went to the location where it happened and the fire was so hot and it burned for so long, the aluminum wheels had melted and you could literally see four little puddles of aluminum from where the wheels were on the vehicle.
Cool Well that's a scary thing.
That was a carbureted engine, was it not Fuel injected?
It was fuel injected.
Yeah, that was the four liter.
North Star.
You know that that that was a cutting edge car back in its day.
When it came out in 95, it was very cutting it, style wise, a very cutting edge car.
It looked good?
Isn't the version of that, the one that AJ Foyt went a million miles an hour around the the engine.
Yeah, out at Fort Stockton.
Yeah, he said.
He said a number of records, records, endurance, speed records.
Did they ever use that engine in anything?
Oh yeah, well, they used it in the Aurora.
They used it in Indy Racing League, with that IRL when Indy cars switched to.
IRL.
Was it a V8?
Yep, the original was a four liter V8 and then IRL.
They were going too fast and they knocked it down to 3.5
and then they knocked it down to a V6 and now Indy cars are all four cylinder turbos.
But yeah, they used it there, they did.
Are those inline four cylinders?
Yeah.
Really In the Indy cars today.
Wow, how do they hold that thing together at 10,000 RPM?
Tightly yeah, it's not just 10,000 RPM.
It's also the amount of boost.
Remember we talked about a couple of weeks ago, when we were doing cylinder blocks, how much boost you could put in.
Well, that's one of the things that you know they're running.
So much boost in them to create the power they create.
You know, I'd like to hear one of those things start up.
I mean, you hear about television.
I'm not talking about that.
I want to be next to it.
Start it up.
Let me see the RPM.
I don't think you would be as impressed as you think.
No, I know.
I don't think so either, because it doesn't sound like some you know well, plus, you've stood, you know, feet away from a nitro top fuel car where when it starts up right next to it.
your eyes start watering, you know you can't breathe the ground.
Oh, that's gorgeous.
You can feel the impulses of the combustion event on your chest.
It's a wonderful thing.
Yep, it is, it truly is.
It's an experience that your internal organs jumping around.
Yeah, I'll never forget the first time I heard one.
This was probably about 1969 and it was down at Houston International Raceway, down in Dickinson, dickinson, yeah, and I will tell you that it was truly wow, you want, I want to make love to this.
You know, it was one of those car guy kind of things and standing feet away from it Makes you happy.
Yeah, it does, makes you happy.
Move your hands Stop.
One me.
I didn't do it, but it truly was, but at any rate yeah we need to figure out how if we're going to get.
No, he's working on it.
Let him go.
Yeah, Let him let him do his thing, so anyway.
So we did the Ford Fusion recalls.
I got lots more recalls, but I do want to get to a feature that Jeffrey has for us today.
Pretty serious one yeah.
Well, hot cars, and you know we hear about it all the time.
Now we haven't.
I haven't heard lots of that this year yet, but I'm kind of kind of surprised by the way the temperatures are going.
I've got you updates and it is serious.
Hot car deaths are.
They're not common, but they do happen and it's serious.
And if you're a guardian or a parent, pay attention please.
We're in 40 countries, so everyone needs to know this.
So the summer means more activities, more time oh, gotta do that.
More time in our vehicles, warmer temperatures with rising temperatures, the chance of children dying in a hot car death also increases.
These deaths are all preventable.
I'm gonna say that again.
All of these deaths are preventable.
Hot car deaths deserve attention, not only in the scorching summer months, but all year long.
Temperatures can increase in a vehicle to dangerous levels in less than an hour, and this this doesn't mean it has to be that hot outside.
Many people just don't realize how quickly a car can heat up on a warm day.
There was a four year old boy in 2020 that died from heat stroke when it was 78 degrees outside.
Another child died in 2005 when it was 73 degrees outside.
Many people just don't realize how quickly a car can heat up If it's 73 degrees outside.
It only takes 25 minutes for temperatures inside a vehicle to exceed 100 degrees.
The majority of temperature increases also occur within the first 15 to 30 minutes of the vehicle being unattended, proving that it doesn't take long to reach dangerous temperatures.
Hot car death is also known as pediatric vehicular heat stroke or PVH, and refers to the unintended fatality of a child under the age of 18 that perishes due to severe heat or heat stroke within an enclosed or contained vehicle.
The interior of a car oh no, sorry, let's just go to this Sorry.
The interior of a car, such as the dark upholstery or leather wrapped steering wheel, can attract heat and hold it.
Now I have a leather wrapped steering wheel and all that, we're good.
With no incoming cycle of fresh air or cool the interior, the temperatures ex potentially become hotter and hotter, growing dangerous levels and proves fatal to those inside.
Both pets and children are especially susceptible because the lack of the ability to safely extricate themselves from these vehicles.
In this situation, some of the warning signs of heat stroke or heat related deaths A core temperature of 104 degrees or higher.
Now, when you've got the flu, you're thinking 102, I'm gonna take Tylenol.
Oh, my gosh, I'm sick.
104 or higher, that's very hot.
Skin feels hot and dry.
You get confusion, agitation, irritability, slurred speech, delirium, flushed skin, rapid breathing, racing heart, headache, nausea, vomiting, seizures and coma.
If you're to those last three, you really do need to get some help.
Fortunately, there are fewer children falling victim to the PVH, and it's due to several things.
Car manufacturers are putting notifications and Leslie indicated last night that she's got a warning in her vehicle that says check your back seat.
Yeah, if you've opened the back door.
There's other ways to do that.
If you're the dad or a brother and you're taking a child or even an elderly person, maybe to the doctor or out for whatever appointment, take your left shoe off.
Put your left shoe in the back seat.
Simple as that.
Oh, that's a great idea.
When you put their purses in the back seat next to the child.
Adjust your mirror so you can see that person, like if you're getting out of the car.
You look in the mirror.
Oh, there's the child seat.
So there are ways for preventing this.
There has been a noticeable decline Since 1998, there have been 39 children die in hot car related incidents.
It's about 910 over the course since 1998.
There has been one child in Texas died this year so far this summer in a hot car related death.
There's been eight in the United States, three of them in Florida.
So there's spotty around the United States.
But as these heat things move across the country, be aware of it.
It's not just the United States, there's all countries that have this heat related stuff.
Be aware of it.
Do something.
The child goes for a little nap, but you forget about it.
Exactly, be proactive.
So that's my little tip for the summertime.
Well, I have to tell you, even I don't have young children, I don't have anybody that I'm taking to work.
But you see, them.
But in my instance, what I do is, if things got a sunroof, either make the thing raise up a little bit, you know, tilt it up, and then crack the windows just a little bit.
So at least I don't want to get in the car myself after a long day sitting out with windows rolled up.
Maybe you park your car in a place that it's not really advisable to do that, but do it anyway.
Well, I can tell you from an automotive engineering point of view.
They have to build and not that this is related, but in a way it is the plastics that are inside of a car have to withstand 150 degrees for eight hours.
That's in the engineering Specification.
So they know those kind of interior temperatures are high not a possibility, but a probability that they're going to see those kind of temperatures and that's where the problem comes is there's no air circulation and you basically sit in there and bake.
Yeah, just make sure that you're aware of your surroundings, especially with young children and elderly.
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About this episode
The crew dives into a lively discussion about aftermarket exhaust systems and their impact on vehicle performance. They also review the Toyota GR86 Premium, highlighting its sporty features and driving experience. The episode includes a segment on high-temperature cars and a racing calendar, alongside automotive news updates. The hosts share humorous anecdotes and engage in light-hearted banter, making for an entertaining listen. Additionally, they address serious topics like hot car deaths and safety tips for keeping children safe during the summer months.
Original notes
In this episode of In Wheel Time Car Talk, the crew takes on a variety of automotive ideas such as exhaust systems. Car dealerships and more!
In the New Car Showroom, Don Armstrong shares his views on the Toyota GR86 Premium.
All this and more on this episode of In Wheel Time Car Talk!
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In Wheel Time Podcast: Your Go-To Automotive Talk Show
In Wheel Time Podcast | Automotive talk with Don Armstrong, Michael Marrs, and Jeff Dziekan
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