The Hummer H1 is a very rugged, off-road SUV with a big, tough appearance. Here, the “beast” plate is mentioned because it fits the H1’s aggressive vibe.
Car
Ferrari 355 Spider
The Ferrari 355 Spider is a classic Ferrari convertible with a V8 engine in the middle. They’re talking about a personalized plate (“nicks”) that matches the car and makes it feel more special.
The Audi S6 is a faster, sportier version of the Audi A6. It’s still a regular-size sedan, but it’s tuned for more performance. The podcast mentions it because it’s associated with something rare in their context.
“Modified cars” are vehicles that have been changed from factory specification—often for aesthetics, performance, or personal preference. In collecting culture, modifications can range from tasteful upgrades to major changes that affect value and drivability.
A wrap is like a big, durable sticker that covers the car’s body to change its look. It can usually be taken off later, so it’s less permanent than repainting.
A private plate is a custom license plate number you choose instead of the standard one. It’s often used to make the car feel more personal or special.
The Volkswagen Golf is a mainstream compact hatchback that’s commonly used as an everyday driver. In this segment, it’s mentioned as the host’s default car, contrasting with the more enthusiast-focused cars in the garage.
Term
Bluetooth connected
“Bluetooth connected” means the car can wirelessly link to your phone. That lets the car use phone features without plugging in cables.
Deferred maintenance means putting off repairs and upkeep. The point here is that even if you don’t drive a car, you can still end up paying to keep it in shape.
If a car sits for a while, the battery can lose charge and the engine won’t start. Sometimes it happens even after charging, especially if the battery is old or something in the car is using power while it’s parked.
The Porsche 911 is one of the most famous sports cars ever made. Here, they’re talking about searching for a particular 911 that matches their exact wants—like color and how much it’s been driven.
“Acid green” is a very bright, eye-catching green paint color. The buyer is saying they don’t want that specific color because it doesn’t fit what they want to live with long-term.
“Low mileage” means the car hasn’t been driven much. This buyer prefers cars they can use—because they want to drive the car rather than just keep it barely touched.
This is a special Ferrari model called the 458 Speciale Aperta. It’s a rare, open-top version of the 458 Speciale, and people often pay a lot for them because they’re limited. Here, the host is talking about how Nick bought it, kept it for years, and sold it for more money.
The Porsche Carrera GT is a very special Porsche supercar. Here, the hosts are talking about how its price has risen, and they’re using it as an example of how rare Porsche models can affect market values.
When people buy rare cars, they usually look at similar cars to figure out what a fair price is. This segment is basically saying that one rare Porsche can become the yardstick that helps explain why other cars get more expensive too.
A hypercar is an extremely expensive, extremely high-performance “top of the line” supercar. The conversation is basically about which brand will be the next big headline car.
Company
Rimac Bugatti
Rimac Bugatti is referenced as part of Porsche’s corporate/ownership relationships. The point in the conversation is that Porsche’s EV and hypercar strategy may be influenced by its ties to Rimac and Bugatti-related technology and investment.
Brand
Volkswagen Audi Porsche Bugatti Lamborghini
This is a brand lineup reference used to describe a corporate grouping of major European performance and luxury marques. The speaker’s underlying point is that these brands are interconnected under a larger umbrella, which can affect how strategies like EV development and hypercar programs are coordinated.
The Porsche Taycan is an all-electric Porsche. It’s the kind of EV people buy for quick, sporty driving, and the speaker is saying they had some problems with it when they owned one.
Charging infrastructure means the places you can plug an electric car in to charge it. If there aren’t enough good chargers nearby, or they’re annoying to use, owning an EV becomes harder.
With an EV, how far you can go depends on where you can charge. If you can only charge at home, you may not be able to take long trips because you can’t easily top up on the way.
The BMW i3s is an electric car made by BMW. It’s a smaller EV, and the “s” version is meant to feel a bit more sporty. The podcast mentions it when pointing out that there are electric cars in the group.
An electric car runs on electricity stored in a battery, not gasoline. You have to charge it, usually at home or at a charger. The discussion is basically about whether it works for everyday driving needs.
A “petrolhead” is someone who really loves cars—especially the kind that use gasoline. In this conversation, they’re saying the granddad isn’t really into cars, even though he has an electric one.
The Audi e-tron is an electric SUV, which means it runs on electricity instead of gasoline. It’s meant to be a practical daily vehicle with modern features. The podcast mentions it because someone is tempted to buy one at a lower price point.
A “speedo” is the speedometer—the dial that tells you how fast you’re going. The host is saying experienced drivers can tell roughly how fast they’re going without looking at it.
A “gear” is the setting that changes how the car’s power is delivered to the wheels. In a manual car you can feel when you shift, but in some electric cars it can be harder to tell what’s happening without looking at gauges.
“Self-driving” means the car can do some driving tasks for you—like steering and controlling speed. The host is talking about a mode where you’re not supposed to actively drive with your hands or feet.
“Auto Drive” is a feature that tells the car to drive itself (or take over driving). The host is describing a mode where you don’t need to steer or press the pedals yourself.
Hydraulic suspension is a way to change a car’s height using pressurized fluid. It can make the car sit lower or higher instead of only using normal springs.
This is a 1980 Chevrolet Monte Carlo, a classic American car. In this episode, the big twist is that this specific Monte Carlo has been set up with hydraulics to change how it rides.
“Three-wheeling” means driving with one wheel in the air, so the car is only touching the road with three tires. It’s not a normal driving situation, and it can raise safety and legal questions.
The BMW E30 M3 is a famous older BMW built for serious performance. Here, the example is modified with a newer M3 engine and an air suspension system, which helps explain why it looks so low.
A “highly modified” car means it’s been changed a lot from how it left the factory. Here, the changes include an engine update and suspension changes, which affect both how it drives and how it looks.
Horsepower is a way to describe how strong the engine is. Higher horsepower usually means the car can accelerate more strongly, especially after modifications.
Air suspension is a suspension system that uses air bags instead of traditional springs. It can raise or lower the car, which is why the car can look extremely low.
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eBay at 3 in the morning
They’re describing how they found the parts online unexpectedly. Enthusiasts often grab rare parts quickly when they show up, even late at night.
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European show
They mean car shows in Europe where people bring modified cars to display them. It’s a place for owners to show off their builds and compare ideas.
“Max Power” is a UK car-mag brand tied to a flashy, showy style of car modifications. Calling it a “Max Power car” is basically saying it looks like that kind of loud, attention-grabbing build.
A Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead is a very fancy Rolls-Royce that’s open-top, like a convertible. In this story, the host mentions it to show that some Rolls-Royces are easier to find than the rare car they’re hunting.
The host is saying that older cars are rarer because fewer were made back then. If only a small number exist, it’s much harder to find the exact one you’re looking for.
The BMW E34 520i is an older BMW 5 Series. “520i” is the model name, and it generally means a smaller, fuel-injected engine compared with higher-number versions.
In the UK, number plates can sometimes be retained and reassigned rather than being permanently tied to a single car. This segment describes that process: the plate was taken from a car that was written off and later put onto another car about a decade later.
Car
BMW Alpina B10 3.5
The BMW Alpina B10 3.5 is a special BMW that’s been tuned and upgraded by Alpina, a company known for making refined, fast versions of BMWs. In this segment, it matters because the speaker moves his rare plate onto this higher-end Alpina.
The Alpina B10 is a luxury sedan that’s built to feel more powerful and more refined than a standard version. It’s based on a BMW platform, but Alpina tunes it. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as a top model they chose, specifically the B10 3.5.
The BMW M5 is a high-performance BMW made by BMW’s performance division. In this story, it’s one of the “top” cars he bought so he could put his rare number plate on it.
Turning traction off disables the system that tries to stop the wheels from spinning. With it off, the car is more likely to slide or spin when you apply throttle.
A “donut” is when a car spins in a circle, usually by applying throttle so the tires spin and the car rotates. It’s a stunt maneuver, not normal driving.
Term
raspy sound
“Raspy” is a way people describe an exhaust sound that’s rough or gritty, not smooth. It can come from how the engine and exhaust are set up to breathe and how the engine revs.
“200 mile an hour” is basically the car’s maximum speed. The point here is that you’re getting a very fast car for the money, but older ones can be less dependable.
A “5.5 liter V8” is a big engine with eight cylinders. It’s the kind of engine that can feel powerful, but on older cars it can also mean more wear and potentially higher repair costs.
They’re saying that cars from the early 2000s often had more new electronics and systems than older cars. More systems can mean more things that can go wrong, which is why some of these cars end up cheap but cost money to fix.
Car
Mercedes-Benz 560 SEC wide body
The Mercedes-Benz 560 SEC is a classic Mercedes coupe. “Wide body” means it’s been modified to look wider, usually with flared fenders and a more aggressive stance.
The Mercedes-Benz CL 65 is a luxury car with a very powerful engine (it’s famous for its V12). People bring it up because it’s a special, high-end “grand tourer” kind of car.
The Porsche 918 is a famous high-end supercar. It’s known for being a hybrid and very fast, but the speaker is contrasting it with other cars they’d pay attention to more.
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investing decisions behind owning supercars
They’re saying there’s more to owning supercars than just the car itself. People also make money-related choices—like when to buy and how it might hold value.
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resale value drop
They’re talking about how some cars lose a lot of money after you buy them. Even if the car is rare or special, the resale market might not pay what you paid.
This is a special BMW M4 made in a limited run with racing inspiration from DTM. The host is basically saying it was a pricey car to buy, and the resale value didn’t hold up like he expected.
An “Eleanor Mustang” is a Mustang associated with the movie look that collectors love. It usually means the car has been modified to match that famous style.
Car
Ferrari 355 Coupe
The Ferrari 355 is a mid-engine V8 Ferrari from the 1990s, and the “Coupe” is the fixed-roof version. It’s a popular modern classic, so buying one can be less about daily use and more about long-term collector value and driving feel.
Duramax is a diesel engine family made by GM. The point here is that one truck uses a newer Duramax diesel, while the other uses an older diesel engine.
The Lamborghini Diablo is a famous old-school supercar from Lamborghini. People love it because it’s a big, loud, high-performance V12-era Lamborghini with a very distinctive look.
LEDs are a type of light used in cars. They’re energy-efficient and can be made in lots of different colors and shapes, which is why people use them for under-car lighting.
Gumball-type tours are big, flashy driving events where people bring interesting cars and drive around together. It’s more like a public spectacle and social scene than a normal car meet.
Gumball 3000 is like a celebrity road trip/rally for expensive cars. People pay to drive them for thousands of miles, and the journey is the main event.
Mate Rimac is a key person behind Rimac, a company that makes high-performance electric cars. The fact that he personally gives tours suggests it’s a serious, insider-level look at how the cars are made.
Company
Remac factory
They visited Rimac’s factory. Rimac is a company that builds electric performance cars, so a factory tour is about how the EVs are actually made.
“Luggage cars” just means the car you pick for a trip with lots of bags. It’s usually the more comfortable, practical choice compared with a super-expensive performance car.
The Rolls-Royce Phantom is a top-tier luxury car. Here, it’s mentioned as the car you ride in from the back—more like a premium “experience” than something you’d hustle around in.
The Ferrari 430 16M is a special, more performance-oriented version of the Ferrari 430. The host is describing how someone used it as a tour “pace car,” and how that car was so enjoyable the owner didn’t want to get out.
The Ferrari 275 is a very old, very collectible Ferrari. In this story it’s mentioned as the owner’s car, and the key detail is that it doesn’t have air conditioning—so the owner offers the chance to drive the newer 430 16M instead.
The Rolls-Royce Corniche is a classic Rolls-Royce model known for its luxury and style, including convertible versions. Here, the host is talking about one particular early car and how the naming changed over time.
Chrome bumpers are bumpers with a shiny chrome finish. Collectors care because the look (and sometimes the exact version of the car) can change between model years or series.
Plastic bumpers are bumpers made from molded plastic instead of chrome-plated metal. They can look different, so they’re useful for telling car versions apart.
Term
tournier cover
They’re talking about the convertible roof setup—specifically the cover area and the buttons you use to raise and lower the roof. It matters because it changes how the convertible feels to operate.
“Seashell interior” just means the car’s inside is upholstered in a light, creamy beige color. The host is choosing it so the baby seat and the rest of the cabin look like they belong together.
A repossession auction is when a car is sold because the previous owner didn’t keep up with payments. The host is saying they found this specific Rolls-Royce at one of those sales.
A “starlight roof lining” is a fancy ceiling inside the car that uses tiny lights to look like stars. The host is pointing out that this Phantom has that kind of roof feature.
An “occasion car” is a vehicle kept for special events or infrequent use rather than everyday driving. The hosts contrast this with the Rolls-Royce Cullinan, implying the Phantom is typically treated as a more ceremonial, chauffeur-oriented car.
Car
Mercedes-Benz SL500
The Mercedes-Benz SL500 is a luxury Mercedes roadster. In this clip they’re talking about one that’s been styled with special wheels.
Brabus is a company that customizes cars, especially Mercedes models. They make aftermarket parts like distinctive wheels, and that’s what they’re referring to here.
A “factory option” means the car came from the factory with that feature already installed. They’re saying the corduroy interior wasn’t originally ordered that way from the factory.
This just means the car’s inside has been upholstered with corduroy fabric instead of leather. It’s a style choice that changes how the cabin looks and feels.
This is a Ferrari 430 Spider, which is the open-top version of the 430. It’s a real Ferrari model with a V8, and the speaker is talking about how this particular one looks and has been customized.
When people say “F1” on a Ferrari, they usually mean the car’s paddle-shift gearbox system. It shifts like a manual, but the computer and hydraulics do the clutch work for you.
The Chevrolet Camaro is a sports car made by Chevrolet that’s known for strong performance. In the podcast, they’re talking about a specific older car build with major customization. The Camaro is mentioned as part of that larger set of notable vehicles.
Term
chassis wrap
A “chassis wrap” is like a protective skin for the car’s lower structure. It can help protect it and make it look more finished.
“Nostalgia” means liking something because it brings back memories or a feeling from the past. The host is saying the car connects to a movie he loves.
Lowrider-style movement is when a car is set up to perform controlled motions—like bouncing, hopping, or raising one corner—rather than just sitting at a fixed stance. It’s commonly achieved with hydraulic suspension and is often tied to classic American customization culture.
Term
three-reel them
“Three-reel” sounds like a specific way of moving the car—like a multi-step lift or motion. He’s saying if the car isn’t set up correctly, doing that makes it bounce or jump.
A 1963 Impala is a classic Chevrolet from the early 1960s. The interesting part here is that this one has been heavily modified with hydraulics and a three-wheel setup, so it’s not a normal stock car.
“Full hydraulics” means the car has a hydraulic system that can move parts using pressurized fluid. It’s a big modification that’s often used to make the car sit differently or do showy movements.
“Rag top” means the car’s roof is made of fabric, like a soft convertible. Those convertibles can be harder to find in good condition because the roof material ages.
Barrett-Jackson is a big car auction in the U.S. The point here is that some cars can sell for huge money when they go through auctions like that.
Car
Mercedes-Benz G55
The Mercedes-Benz G55 is a special, higher-performance version of the Mercedes G-Class. It’s the kind of car people buy because it feels powerful and special, not just because it looks tough.
Left-hand drive means the steering wheel is on the left side of the car. It matters because different countries drive on different sides of the road, and collectors care about the exact setup.
Car
Mercedes-Benz G63
The Mercedes-Benz G63 is a more powerful AMG version of the G-Class. In the story, it’s the newer G-Class the previous owner traded into.
A manual conversion means changing the car so it uses a manual (stick-shift) gearbox instead of an automatic. They’re saying this car was modified to drive like a stick.
The Ferrari LaFerrari is a very rare, ultra-expensive super-hypercar from Ferrari. The hosts are saying that once you’re at this level, people expect you to move into cars like it. They also mention wanting an open-top version—something that changes the driving experience.
The Ferrari LaFerrari Aperta is a rarer version of the LaFerrari that’s designed to be open-top. Since it’s even more limited than the regular one, it costs far more. Here, they’re basically saying the extra money is for the experience of having the roof come off.
The Corvette is a sports car made by Chevrolet. It’s known for being fast and fun to drive. The podcast mentions that with a certain budget you can get a Grand Sport version.
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V750
V750 is a UK paperwork form/document connected to vehicle registration. Here, it matters because the number plate is linked to an old record from 1996.
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V5
V5 is the main UK registration document that shows who the vehicle is registered to. In the story, they had to update the paperwork to the current V5 system.
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update the form
They’re talking about the paperwork steps needed to get the number plate registered properly. With rare plates, the forms can be the hardest part, not just the money.
Collector rarity means there aren’t many of that exact car version around. The speaker says theirs was one of only about 500, which makes it more desirable to buyers who collect these cars. When something is scarce, it often costs more.
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I can't enjoy something that loses money.
You're married?
All of these are your cars.
Yes.
And what is the weirdest car you've got?
Erm, it properly hops up and down.
I bet the kids love it.
I'd never sell that one.
I love that car.
When they say car looks a million dollars.
Nick, do you prefer cars on number plates?
Can be done better at number plates.
Really?
It's the geek in me.
Just into letters and number combinations.
Let's go to Nick's.
That number is probably twice the price of the car.
What's the most you've made on a car?
Definitely in the six-figure.
Big risk, big reward.
These car tours, you know, the Gumball-type tours.
What happens on these tours that you guys don't talk about on these tours?
Nick, do you prefer cars on number plates?
It's a tough one, but I think number plates.
But you can't drive a number plate?
No, you can't.
But I don't know.
It's just the personal part of it.
It's unrepeatable.
And no maintenance.
No maintenance.
And no storage.
And no maintenance in anything, do you?
Yeah.
Anything with maintenance has got to be worth the money.
Exactly that.
And effort.
You know, cars are always...
As much as I love them, they're our headache.
Yeah.
Number plates don't have that.
Which ones made you the most money?
I've probably done better at number plates.
Really?
Yeah.
You see, the thing with number plates, I sell cars on a rarity basis.
One of 30 in the UK, one of 50 in the world, one of 100, blah, blah, blah.
A number plate.
Whatever number plate it is...
It's one of one.
It's one of one.
So if you have got that number, I have a very good friend.
His initials are NS.
And as I was driving into Nick's Drive, he's got NS1, 11 NS.
And like, if he's got the urge for his initials on a number plate and he wants the best one,
well, you name your price.
If you're not happy with the price, go and find another.
Well, you can't find another.
Have you sold a low number plate recently?
I sold a one by one, yeah, single, single, they call it.
Right.
Nine r.
I sold that recently.
No, no.
Can you disclose how much you sold that for?
I owned that plate for six years and I doubled my money on it.
So pretty well.
But yeah, it's sort of in the mid six figures.
Wow.
Yeah.
I mean, single, single is a...
What's cool about a single, single is because you can actually, if you...
You can't with nine r, but if you had, for instance, five b, and your name was Simon Brown,
then all of a sudden you've got sb.
Not sb1.
That's your initials you have on your number plate.
The person who bought nine r's initials had gr.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, I mean, single singles are, especially when you get a one either side of it.
It's big, big money.
You know, they sell for a million, a million pounds plus, depending on how much someone wants it.
So you buy a plate, you've got a piece of paper to register it, no maintenance, no insurance,
no breakdowns, no theft, no nothing, and you've probably done better out of that than cars.
Yeah.
But how many cars do you have?
Around 70 at the moment.
So you still don't hate cars?
I bet he's got more number plates than cars.
How many number plates do you got?
Probably 200 plus.
Yeah.
I see you got you wanker there.
Yeah.
Are you saving that for someone you don't like?
I actually bought that when I was younger, when I think it was a 14 plate, when 14 plates came out.
Yeah.
So it was like 22, 23 years old then.
And I put it on a car for about three or four days.
And my grandad phoned me up.
And he said, my friend's just seen you driving around with a horrible word on your car.
You need to take that off now.
And I did and it hasn't been on a car since, to be fair.
I'd display it on the wall instead.
I would imagine your grandad, obviously a different era, is a very old fashioned.
Yeah.
When your grandad says take your number plate off, you take your number plate off.
Exactly that.
Because you look like a wanker.
Yeah.
Well, I'm surprised actually, because I know you do the driving tours.
Yeah.
And you do them with your friends.
Yeah.
And you have a great time away.
Yeah.
Yet you prefer plates.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I love cars.
So it's hard for me to say I prefer one or the other, because I do love them both.
And I'm obsessed with cars.
But at the same time, I'm also obsessed with number plates.
I guess it's the geek in me.
You know, just into letters and number combinations.
I don't know.
I'm just a bit geeky for things like that.
And I really like the number plates.
Also, a certain plate doesn't necessarily have to be initials.
You've got some great plates.
Like you've got beast on your Hummer H1.
I mean, that sets the car off, doesn't it?
Yeah.
You've got exotic over there.
Yeah.
Exotics on the 9118.
You've got nicks on your 355 Spider.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, all of a sudden, you see a 355 Spider, and you're like, wow, that's
a nice car.
And then you see one with nicks on it.
And you think, wow.
That's nicks.
That's nicks.
You've got cars as well.
But you haven't got a car for your plate, have you?
But that's the best possible thing.
I haven't got it on anything.
It's best possible for your name.
Same as that.
You can't get Nick without the S on the end, because it's just not possible in the combinations.
So like, I'm geeky for the combinations, you know?
Like how can you get that word or whatever in the format that works on a UK plate?
My wife's name is Mitzi.
Yeah.
And how you spell her name is M-I-T-Z-I.
Yeah.
Well, you can't incorporate that into a number plate.
But another variation of her name, how you can spell it, is M-I-T-S-Y.
So she has M-1-T-S-Y, which is not how she spells her name, but it is how you spell the
name Mitzi.
Because you can't get an I on a number plate.
No.
Or you can't have two ones that far apart from each other.
They have to be connected.
All numbers in a plate, all ways together.
So you don't get numbers separated by letters, ever on a number plate.
And these sort of plates, so that's M-1-C-K-S, I guess they go up, do they?
Yeah, yeah.
Considerably, I've only ever known decent number plates to go up in value.
I don't know of any time, you might have to correct me on this, but I don't know of
any time that number plates have ever depreciated.
No, not depreciated.
There was a lull in the market for a long time where number plates, you see a number
plate seller auction for 300 grand, and then you realize that in 1994 it was bought in
auction for six grand.
So there was a time where they just weren't worth very much, but it wasn't like it was
worth 50, then it went down to six, and now it's worth it.
They do progressively go up.
But then is that a cause of the number going up, or is that just inflation?
What is it?
What else has gone up at the same time?
So for example, that Nix plate, the previous owner to me bought it in 1996, he paid in
the region of £45,000 from the DVLA in an auction.
That was a lot of money in 1996.
In 1996 you could buy a three-bedroom house in this area, easily for £40,000.
So what would a three-bedroom house now be worth here, a quarter of a million pound?
Is the plate worth a quarter million pound?
Maybe not, but possibly to the right buyer.
To the right Nix it is.
Yeah, to the right buyer it possibly is.
And the thing with name number plates, I have a name number plate.
I prefer them because it's more personal.
There's many CH's out there.
My sister-in-law's got initial CH.
So CH, whatever comes to sale, me and my brother have got a right tariff over it.
And my son's initial is a CH.
But there's an upside to a downside.
If your name's Nix, then you have a number plate with an N on it.
But if you have Nix, then it's not quite worth as much as two initials and a single digit,
or one, say for instance, because it appeals to so many more people.
It appeals to Nix, Nigel, Neil, where Nix only appeals to Nix.
So there's a double-headed coin to that.
Yeah.
The other thing is generational.
So all my sons are called NS as well.
They all have my initial, first initial.
Did you do that because of your plates?
Be honest.
I don't know if I did it because of the plates.
I did it because of that.
I was calling Wanker.
I did it more for legacy, I suppose, I guess.
But it equally works very well for the plates.
And me having NS plates is ideal for them, even though their name's not Nix.
So would they run a Nix plate when I'm not here?
Probably not.
Would they run an NS plate?
Of course they would because it's their initials too.
Yeah, and I suppose that's something you can pass down generationally.
There's no inheritance tax on a car, but if a car has a number plate on it,
I'm not sure the exact legalities of it, but I think a number plate on a car
and the car can transfer with no inheritance.
Yeah, because you can sell a car with a number plate on,
and you don't have to charge different for it.
That's the number plate that's registered to that car.
I'm sure somebody in the comments would tell you better.
You should know with 200 plates, I'd find out.
So you've got 70 cars.
Something like that, yeah.
And you've got a right mix.
Yeah, a bit of everything.
Would you be able to walk round with Colin Sherman for you?
Yep.
A bit later.
What do you think's your rarest plate?
Rarest plate.
Probably S6.
Right.
Yeah, it's on the Cullinan at the moment.
Yeah, but they're all rare.
They're all one-on-one.
They're all one-on-one, but in terms of value-wise,
S6 is probably my most valuable one.
See, S6, for instance, if your initials are SG.
Yeah, my dads are GS.
Yeah, so you've got your initials on your plate.
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Car wise, how did you get into buying cars?
What's your story?
I've just always been obsessed with cars from a young, young age.
Nobody else in my family is,
so it's really like I still live with my family,
my parents, my grandparents, everybody.
So nobody else is into cars in the household.
So all of these are your cars?
Well, obviously there's like an i3 over there
that my granddad drives,
the X5 that my mum drives and stuff,
but yeah, they haven't really got an interest like I have.
So there's four generations here.
What do the older generations think
of you taking up acres of land
with all these fucking cars?
They're kind of just used to it now.
They don't even realise,
they don't even take notice of it anymore.
My dad enjoys them a little bit,
but he's not really like a car.
He probably enjoys them
because he sees how much pleasure they bring to you.
Probably more so.
It's kind of something,
if he gets into them,
you have something in common
and you can do stuff together.
Exactly.
So yeah, I get that.
He's got some cool cars.
I mean, you're a ray of different cars.
If someone was to say,
you know, so what kind of cars do you collect?
You know, some people say,
some people say,
I collect Ferrari or I collect this.
I mean, you've got the Range Rover out of Leia Cake.
You've got two H1 Hummers.
You have a Monte Carlo.
You have all sorts of rare BMWs.
A 918 Spider.
Some Rolls Royce's.
I mean...
Modified cars.
You've got all angles covered in it,
haven't you really?
I don't know.
I've just...
I've not got a specific thing.
I love only this car.
I love all cars.
And especially cars that give me
some sort of nostalgia or some sort of...
I don't know.
I do genuinely love and obsess over cars.
So if Leia Cake, for example,
it's one of my favourite films ever.
So how can I not have a P38 Range Rover,
which are relatively worthless compared to...
Was that car originally yellow?
No, that car was originally black.
So you respray it yellow?
It was wrapped, actually.
It was wrapped?
It was wrapped yellow, just because it's obviously the film.
And I daily drove that car for years.
I've done like 70,000 miles in that car.
In yellow?
In that car, in yellow, yeah.
You got a private plate on that car?
Yes.
YLW1.
Oh, right.
I bet you don't have a car without a private plate, do you?
No, I drive a Golf most of the time.
I drive a GTD lease car, Golf.
Why?
I'm on building sites most of my life.
And is that so that you don't look like a rich twat
when you turn up to your properties?
That a little bit, but I'm mostly on building sites,
I'm with tradies and stuff.
It's not the best image.
And also, me and Carl had a conversation earlier
about your Bluetooth connected.
My keys are in there.
I know where all my receipts go.
Everything's in that car and it's perfect for me.
You said to me on a show about that you think Golf's
one of the best cars I've ever made.
Yeah, so I doubt there's many people in the world
that have done more miles in Golf than what I've done.
I had a Golf from 2004 and I ran them every single day
until 2022.
I think they're good, dear.
Yeah, I love it.
I don't run a plate on that car day-to-day.
That's your incognito.
That's my incognito.
It's got a plate on it now for the purposes of this video
and not showing the real registration
because I just don't want it.
But that's what I drive most of the time.
No plate on it, normal plain Golf.
I have the cars to enjoy in my own time
but for work I drive that diesel Golf.
Right.
Do you think you'll ever get bored
or thin the collection down, Carl?
Like to talk to people about thinning the collection down?
I think he said it about four times already today.
That's because he wants to buy 20 of them off.
You've got a car supply problem at the moment.
20 wouldn't make a dent in what he's got here.
I'm just trying to give you some more garden space.
I've sold about 20 in the last year or so
because I had this exact same thought last year.
It started really winding me up on maintaining cars
that I don't use.
A car I sold last year, I hadn't sat in it for 10 years.
It would just sat in the garage, it'd come out and get cleaned,
it would get serviced, MOT'd, everything serviced, MOT'd.
You met earlier who looks after all the cars here.
And you end up with like, I don't know,
a four or five grand bill every now and again for a car.
I haven't even seen it for however long.
I don't sit in it, I haven't used it.
I love it because of whatever it meant for me at the time
when I bought it or for whatever reason
but if it's not getting any use,
I think I'm selling stuff now.
How often do you look at one of the cars
scattered around your acreages of garden
and think, you know what, I'm going to drive that today
and then you go into it, the battery's flat?
Hopefully never because that's what Ollie's job is.
But it does occasionally happen
even if it was charged on the way.
I drive it somewhere and it was charged
and then I get there and I go to start and it doesn't start.
It's just part of having old cars.
When you have that many, there's always one that needs a service.
There's always one that has an issue.
There's always one that needs an MOT.
You need your MOT station here, really.
Yeah, really.
I think Ollie does like five or six MOTs a week on stuff.
These are called first world properties.
He's always doing something.
Okay, so you said you've sold 20.
What do you think is the optimum number?
Because I've got, I think, 78
and it's pissing me off.
Two of them wouldn't start
just last week.
I don't have a full-time guy.
I imagine that is the problem.
But I'm even like, maybe I only need five or four.
I've got an event store.
I haven't driven that for a year.
I drive my Atom twice a year.
I'm using the wrong car as a daily.
I'm even like, maybe five is better than eight.
What's the optimum number?
I don't know because I like such a wide variation of cars.
Like you're saying, there's an impala there.
There's Hummers, there's Rolls-Roses, BMWs.
And I like all of them to serve.
There's always an occasion for one or the other, right?
So I wouldn't say that I could have only five cars
and be content with that because I'm obsessed with...
I'm also obsessed with buying them.
I'm not so much selling them but buying them.
I love finding a car that I'm really looking for
and deep diving and looking for all the details
of what that car's options were, when it was new.
What bits of that do I want?
What color do I want to find one in
and go and find this elusive car that might not even exist
and then getting a deal done to buy it.
I really enjoy that process.
Probably just as much as the ownership.
Right, yeah.
Because I know you said you took quite a time to buy your 911, did you?
Yeah.
How long did that take?
About 11 months, I think.
11, 12 months.
I was actually in the market for one, looking for one.
Spoke to pretty much everybody about it.
I think I've touched base with Carl a couple of times on one.
Every person that could possibly find me an 911 I spoke to
and wanted one specific in terms of
I didn't want acid on the car, the acid green.
I wanted one with miles that I could use
and put more miles on.
Right.
Like super low mileage cars don't interest me too much
because you can't use them.
Because you're not driving them.
You can't use them and I like to use them.
Yeah.
And did you buy that well then?
I believe I did, yeah.
I think orange is probably one of my favorite colors
and it's got the orange color, all the orange stitching
and what have you inside the car.
So I'm really happy with that.
Good thing to get into as well at the minute.
I think Nick got out of a couple of other very high value cars
to obviously make space number one
and make the transition a lot easier than paying.
What did you get out of?
A 458 Speciale Aperta.
Okay.
So you must have made on that?
Yeah, did well on that car.
I had it quite a while.
Seven years I had that car.
I bought it well and I pretty much double my money on that.
I got out of that at the right time, I think.
I feel like that's the top of the market at the moment for these things.
I thought the top of the market was 20% ago.
But it's still going.
I don't know where the market is at the moment.
Yeah, it's hard to know where the market is at the moment
but the actual market, not just what people advertise stuff about.
Exactly.
And I don't know as much as Carl does in what actually he's selling
but I feel like I got out of that fairly comfortable place for me
and I couldn't afford to have that and this at the same time.
And also they're kind of similar.
They're both convertible, they're both very special cars
and you know, you're sort of replicating.
And you've had seven years of fun out of that car.
Yeah.
I imagine you don't look at it the same way as you did when you first owned it
and you've sort of been there, done that, wore the t-shirt.
Like, what's next?
Exactly.
And that's kind of what I wanted it to be next.
That's what here we are now.
And do you think that'll do well over time?
Yeah, I do.
I do think that'll do well over time.
I think where they'll do well is when Porsche announced the car to supersede the 9118
it will probably be a lot more money than a 9118.
There'll probably be more numbers made than a 9118.
9118s are a big reason why Carrera GTs have gone significantly high in value.
You know, you always need something to compare it to or something to realize the value of.
You look at a Carrera GT and is 2000000 pounds now.
And then you look at a 9118 which is a very different car
but it's still the big brother to the Carrera GT and it's less money.
So 9118 shows value.
Do you think Porsche will do another hypercar?
100%.
I think it'll be announced this year.
Yeah, because obviously Ferrari have just done the AMG1.
Yeah, they're under a lot of pressure.
You've got McLaren with the new W1.
You've got the Ferrari with the F80.
You've got the Mercedes with the AMG1.
So everyone's kind of like, alright Porsche, it's your time now.
They've got to do it.
I think they'll announce it this year.
Are they in development form then?
Well, you see, I think they would have done it before now
because they were going down.
They really invested heavily in the EV electric side
and there was this talk of a car called a Mission X.
Remember the Mission E?
Mission E, sorry, Mission E.
And now Porsche has kind of pulled the plug completely.
Well, they own Rimat Bugetti, don't they?
Porsche?
Well, Porsche Volkswagen are sort of incorporated with each other.
You know, Volkswagen Audi, Porsche Bugatti, Lamborghini.
They're all under the same kind of umbrella.
So I think it's delayed because hopefully they'll put an engine
in their next car where I think they will go in down the route
of just going to EV, you know, just doing a stupidly fast electric car
that now wouldn't be so much in demand, would it?
Is there even a market for that car now?
What do you think of electric cars?
Every one of your podcasts I've watched, it does turn to electric cars quite a bit.
He lets all of his anger and emotions out through that question.
I've had a Taycan.
I enjoyed it at the time.
They had a lot of problems.
This was a few years ago.
I hated the charging infrastructure.
I only ever charged it at home.
So it never went very far.
My granddad drives an i3.
It's there, a fully electric little car.
He loves it.
It has a place, I think.
Just not for me.
I've done the electric.
All the cars you've got, I don't see any...
Yeah, I've not seen many electric cars.
I don't see any electric cars here, do you?
Well, there's i3s just there.
But you know, car lovers, people who love cars, don't have electric cars.
I don't agree.
I think people who love cars do have one electric car hidden around the side.
What they put through the business?
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, but that's not a car, is it?
Or they just sort of, it's their daily utility.
Yeah, exactly.
There is a...
I mean, I would walk before I drove an electric car.
But there is a need for certain people's life.
Like your granddad with his i3.
He probably doesn't go very far.
So he goes 10 miles a day.
And then he comes back, he sticks it on charge,
and he just goes 10 miles again another day.
What's wrong with that?
That's fine.
But you still wouldn't do that.
Is your granddad a petrolhead?
He's not into cars at all.
There you go.
Thank you very much.
So if you claim that you're into cars, and you love cars,
and you're a petrolhead, you're a car enthusiast,
you don't drive an electric car.
I agree.
Not out of choice, anyway.
Maybe your accountant told you to buy one.
Wow, yeah.
Well, he wouldn't tell you to buy one now, would he?
No, well, that's all been reversed, hasn't it?
People were getting into the electric cars
for the reliefs and the benefits,
and they're all starting to reverse now.
And they're stuck in them now, because they can't sell them.
Oh, they are.
How much they've dropped.
They're wedged, aren't they?
Yeah, but surely that...
I'm tempted to get one of those e-trons, the GTs.
You get one for 30 grand.
Yeah.
Like, you could buy that and just never sell it,
and just, you know, go to the shops in it.
But they have problems.
I don't think I'd have an electric car out of warranty.
No.
No, but you could extend the warranty, couldn't you?
It's just a shit show, isn't it?
Electric cars.
That's why they're so cheap.
Because you always say this about value.
You always say anything at the right money.
Yeah, as a business proposition, you know, as, you know...
A product to sell.
Yeah, I'd buy that street light if it was the right money.
It's impressive, I'm thinking, you know...
I'm surprised you haven't tried to buy it off me.
I quite like it.
I'm going to have a talk about that in a minute.
Put it in your roundabout.
But, you know, if you've got it, it's like,
right, I'm in this car now, and, you know, does it show if I...
It doesn't...
It's not going to bring anybody any happiness, is it?
An electric car.
You don't get an electric car on a Sunday morning,
and you go, wow.
It does the first time you put your foot down
in a fast electric car, like a takeout or whatever.
The first time it'll make you laugh.
After that, you get bored of it.
Once you give it wears off, it's done.
It's done.
Exactly.
And look, these take-on turbo-S's and these...
What do they call it?
The Teslas, the...
Played.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, they are, like, stupidly fast.
But you do it three times and you're like,
okay, that was cool.
I'm bored now.
Yeah.
I think they're dangerous as well.
The novelty wears off.
You know, I don't think you realise how fast you're going in them.
Yeah.
And, like, anyone can get into them because, obviously,
most people that bought them are just, like, business people
which buy, like, secretary of care and such.
Yeah.
And then they've never driven a fast car in their life.
No.
They've always had a two-litre diesel.
And now they've jumped into a fast Tesla or a Porsche or something.
They're doing nought to 60 in two seconds.
That is fairly dangerous.
Like, two to three.
Like, the people that drive fast cars have always driven fast cars.
You can kind of...
Handle them.
They can handle them a little bit better.
They have some experience in them.
People that are jumping into some of these fast Teslas and stuff.
But also, I think if you've been around cars a long time,
you don't need to look at the speedo.
You don't need to look at what gear you're in if it's a manual.
You can tell by the engine how fast you're going.
If you need to change gear up or down,
you can feel it through the car.
With these electric cars, you haven't got a clue how fast you're going
if you're not, like, looking at the...
And now they're bringing out...
Well, they already have these self-driving cars
where you can sit in the car.
And I don't know how this is even legal, by the way,
because I'm not allowed to eat a sandwich when I drive a car.
But you can sit in the car and you press Auto Drive
and you're like, right, it's just...
No hands on the wheel, no feet on the pedals.
And you're just off you go.
Well, if that's not dangerous and encouraging people to fall asleep,
then I don't know what is.
But probably still better than some of the drivers on the road.
Yeah, probably, yeah.
Do you like the future of these driverless autonomous cars?
It's a utility, right? It's just...
That's all it is.
No.
I mean, I don't want to go a bit too down the rabbit hole,
but if you're in a driverless autonomous car,
what's to say, can't stop or...
Exactly.
Take you where it wants to go rather than where you want to go.
Not let you out.
Yeah, exactly.
Take you down to HMRC to check it.
Because it's got software that's recorded the last telephone conversation.
You've been fucked.
Yeah, yeah.
That's how it's all going now, though, isn't it?
Yeah.
Everything is going.
Everything is digital.
Everything is being tracked, traced, listened to.
You should get some...
What do you call that suspension you've had on the...
Hydraulic suspension.
Hydraulic.
Yeah, some hydraulics on a Tesla.
I don't know if the batteries could cope,
because that thing's got probably more batteries than the Tesla.
The whole boot's full of it.
Yeah, it does all work off battery, doesn't it?
It works off batteries, yeah.
So, just so everyone knows who's watching and listening,
what car are we talking about?
It's a 1980 Chevy Monte Carlo.
What's the deal with that car?
It's on hydraulics.
The reason I like it is because...
Well, everyone probably has seen Training Day at this point.
It's one of the best films of our generation, that's for sure.
And it's the car that Denzel's character drove in the film.
He had a 1980 Monte Carlo on hydraulics.
And yeah, that's why I have that car release.
That nostalgia to the film.
It's one of my favourite films.
Have you ever driven it?
Yeah, I've driven it a couple of times.
Not too often, but it rides at normal height when you drive it.
Do you take it down Southampton High Street
and just like bounce it all the way down?
It can bounce, yeah, it can bounce out.
In the middle of Ringwood.
Yeah, it's not 17.
But you can't get in the High Street anymore, can you?
Not on the main High Street.
It's all pedestrianised now, yeah.
What would be the look?
I mean, surely that's not legal to drive the car
with one wheel up in the air and the rest just...
You don't know who it must be.
Well, that one doesn't three-wheel, but the Impala does three-wheel.
So yeah, I have driven that three-wheel on like a roundabout or something.
And is that legal, is it?
I don't know.
I've never had a ticket for that.
What kind of money does that car like that cost?
I think it's 30, 40 grand-ish, something like that.
So you just bought it at what you think it's worth to you.
Yeah.
That's not sort of a car you...
Are you going to keep that?
Probably, yeah.
I don't know.
Bit fun, isn't it?
It's fun.
I enjoy looking at it.
Even if I don't drive it so much, it's just something cool.
Yeah.
Okay, so you've got 70 cars here.
Pick three that you're keeping and 67 have to go to Carl to sell.
If I was going to keep...
The last car would be that one.
I'd never sell that one.
So that is a...
That would be the last car.
A 1987 E30M3 BMW.
Right, so...
Highly modified.
Okay.
And I did all the modifications.
Yeah.
So what would the horsepower be on that standard and what is it now?
195 standard, that one's 380.
Wow.
It's a newer M3 engine in it.
Gearbox and what have you.
It's on air suspension.
That's why it sits so low.
Yeah.
It's on Bugatti E1 10 wheels.
Is it?
Yeah.
So why are you keeping that first?
Why is that the one?
I don't know.
It was a dream car as a kid growing up E30M3.
Yeah.
And then when I actually finally bought one, I built it exactly how I wanted it to be.
The color I wanted it to be, the engine I wanted it to be.
I didn't plan to buy Bugatti wheels for it, but they came up on eBay at 3 in the morning
one night and there they are.
And how much do you think you've spent on that car modifying it?
I did it a long time ago, so I'm talking 2012, 13.
All right.
So what's that?
13, 14 years ago.
Things were cheaper then.
Yeah.
I think I put about 30 grand into that car at the time.
And have you entered it in any sort of, any shows?
Yeah.
Back then, like every European show.
Because that would be like a Max Power car, wouldn't it?
Yeah.
I suppose so.
Like that generation of Max Power car.
It's quite a famous car in that world, in that modified car scene.
It's a very well known car.
Like, for example, there's a painting there that somebody from Turkey painted for a school
project and then sent it to me.
Oh, wow.
Like just because it was just that, it had that sort of reach to it.
Yeah.
And there is, for things like that, there's such a cult following.
You take that to a show and someone goes, look, if that car ever comes on the market,
like, you know, I want it.
Yeah.
I've been offered silly money for it, but I wouldn't sell that car.
That's just, that is my whole passing.
A million pounds?
Yeah, because I can replicate for half a million quid.
It's, it's, it's, it's everyone.
It comes out of these figures, it's like.
Everyone's got a price.
I could build it three or four times over for that again, you know, so like, but,
it may have to be silly.
Nobody's ever going to pay that for it, but it would be the last car.
It's all different.
Yeah.
Okay.
So another two you keep out your whole collection.
Cornish, probably.
I love that car.
When I came in the drive that I've seen that car, the color, the condition that it's in,
the plate that's on it, it, well, when they say car looks a million dollars,
that car does look a million dollars and, and, you know, it will any way you take it.
You have that in the middle of Monaco and you are getting more attention than any other car.
Everywhere I've ever taken it gets more attention than super cars, hyper cars, anything.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, I love a Cornish.
It's so cool.
So cool.
It's in, it's in a nice, an odd color, I suppose.
It's like a dark brown.
Yeah.
It's coffee bean brown.
It's got like a tan interior and it just, it's in perfect condition.
It's unrestored.
It's a one owner car.
It was a one owner car.
Yeah.
Guy owned it from New.
He, he ordered it New in 1971.
Delivered in 1972.
He owned it until he died.
I bought it off his son.
Really?
His grandson.
I bought it off him.
You know, I think if you were to, I think if you were to, my dad's not really a massive
car man as in the love of cars.
And he often boasts the fact that he's never had his own personal car.
Yeah.
But I think if you were to ask him, like gone to his head, what is your favorite car of
all time?
I think he'd say a Cornish.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've read his book actually and he says about selling them when they were new.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He didn't really well out of them.
So when he was, for anyone that's read his book, he was, when he was 16 in 1975, I think
it was, he had a white Cornish convertible.
And God, it's like a, it's like a 15 year old rocking up in a new Phantom Drophead now.
Do you know what I mean?
And that was his first like massive statement, you know, done well in business, young, a
kid, and he's rocking up in this white Cornish.
And when he was turning 60, I spent, he doesn't even know this, by the way, and he probably
won't watch the podcast.
He probably still won't know it.
But when he was, when he was turning 60, I spent two years trying to find that actual
Cornish with that number plate, the exact one that he had.
And I wanted to buy it for him as a birthday present.
And it just, it's just not there.
It just doesn't exist.
I don't know whether it's been, I don't know whether it's been smashed at some point and
scrapped or exported or whatever it may be.
I mean, I got in touch with every Rolls Royce historian that I could lay my tongue to and
just could not find the car.
And in the back of my mind, still, I'm still looking for that car, you know, out of the
hundreds of thousands of cars that he's bought and sold over the years.
I would say, you know, that one probably meant the most to him than any other one.
And probably more so than it would have been a bigger statement than like you said, a Phantom
Drophead.
Yeah, Phantom Dropheads are fairly common compared to a Cornish in the 70s.
People didn't have big cars, you know, like valuable cars back then.
It just wasn't a done thing, was it?
That's why older cars are so much rarer.
They just, the production numbers are so much lower.
And then, you know, when, when you talk to, because it means, it means a lot to me more
as, as more so to him.
When you talk to some of my dad's people he's known for, for, you know, years and people
who knew him when he was a kid and you see them at, you know, weddings or funerals or
things like that, they'll come over and they got a car.
I've known your dad since, you know, he was 15.
I never forget he had August 75.
He had this white Rolls Royce converter, but like everyone knows him to that car.
I thought, how cool would it be for your 60th to, to, to buy him that car?
But I can't find it.
And one similar.
It's just not the same though, is it?
It's just not the same.
It just, it'd be pointless.
I feel like having a blue M3 for you.
You say that, but then like when I was growing up, the car that probably got me into BMWs
the most was my dad had a brilliant red E34 520i it was.
So the same color as that.
Yeah.
The same model as that.
And I had, he had that car when I was growing up as a, he had it from like when I was like
23 years old up until my granddad wrote it off.
I think that was about early 2000s and it was worthless then, you know, had no value
then, but that's probably the car that got me into these old BMWs.
That's why, you know, they're littered around everywhere.
It's probably because of that car.
So when, so, and he used to run a plate on it, which was GSX2T, which is probably the
number plate that got me into number plates.
And the car got written off and the number plate went with that car and managed to get
the number plate back about 10 years after it was written off.
And I ended up buying another brilliant red E34 5 series.
Not, not that 520 because that car is gone, but I bought another red one.
But instead of being a 520, I bought an Alpina B10 3.5, which is, you know, as the top model
of that generation of car in the same color and put that original plate on it.
It's actually parked on the other side of the garage.
We'll have a look in a bit.
And then when I found this number plate, which is my dad's name, Glenn, I want to
try to put that on another one of these cars.
So I ended up buying, buying another one, but an M5 now.
So I've got, you know, two of the top models and that, that combination because that's,
and my dad never driven both.
He couldn't care less.
But for me, it's the, it's the nostalgia of the cars that my dad had, the car that
my dad had with me growing up and the car that got me into the cars and got me into
the number plates.
For me, it's probably more important than is to, than him, even though it's got his
old number plate on it or his name on this one.
For me, that's, it's just more important to me.
When you come down the drive, I feel like I'm in sort of, you know, 1993 at like Mike
Tyson's house.
Where's the tiger?
Do you know what I mean?
Or like some rapper's house in 1993, you know, with the Hummers and the, and the low
riders and the, you know, Ferraris and the old roles.
And yeah, it's cool.
You've got some cool cars, really cool cars.
And what's the last car you're keeping then?
Probably that blue E46M3.
Why?
Because when I was a kid at school, just outside the school, there was a house that
always had a Laguna Seca blue E46M3 and pass it every day on the bus going into school.
And it was new then.
So when I was at school, E46M3 was a new car.
It was the first car I ever bought and sold that was.
Was it?
The first car I ever bought and sold was an E46M3.
My business partner had one of them and he, I don't think he ever drove it without having
the back end everywhere.
Yeah.
It was very easy.
Yeah.
When they had this SMG gearbox, was that SMG?
No, it's manual.
So when they had the SMG gearbox, I used to do this all the time, you could just turn
the traction off, put it in first and then just touch the accelerator and turn the car
and it just donut or slide anywhere.
And it wasn't, you'd never have to fight to do it.
It just happened automatically.
And like perfectly controllable, perfectly balanced.
I don't know, I've just, I've got a big thing for them and because of that.
And the one outside the school was always blue with a blue interior.
Right.
And I always wanted that car.
I bought Laguna Seca blue with Kiwi interior one day.
That's an odd combination.
I said it easy.
I can't remember who I sold it to or where I bought it from, but yeah, obviously it went.
But they've done funky colors back then in them cars.
They've done Phoenix Yellow.
I had a Phoenix Yellow with a Laguna Seca blue interior.
Yeah.
These are cars that like you couldn't give away and like you sort of bought them.
But now that's worth so much more.
These BMW heads, they love odd combinations like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that possibly one of the best sounding M3's?
It has like that raspy sound, doesn't it?
I think it is.
Yeah.
And this sounds the same because it's the same engine in it.
Yeah.
It's done an exhaust to replicate that noise.
The one after is the V8.
So everyone prefers the V8 noise, but for me it is the E46 and 344 sound.
It was a big jump when they went from that to a V8.
The V8 was a monster, wasn't it?
In comparison, yeah.
In comparison.
And that was always a fast car.
Yeah.
But the V8 was, was mental.
And you know, they've come down to absolute pennies now, haven't they?
Pretty much.
Yeah.
They're starting to come back up again now.
Yeah.
They have started to come back up again, but you know, you could come buy one for about
12 grand.
A bit more than that now for nice ones, but yeah.
Now, but like four or five years ago.
Oh yeah.
They dropped under 10 grand.
Yeah.
The E46s were like four or five grand for a long time.
I know.
Now they're, you know, in their 20s.
The same with them.
And they haven't quite moved because there's so many of them.
But great value for money car is like an SL55 from like 020304.
Yeah.
I've got one of those.
Yeah.
Or a CL55.
Anything from five grand to 40 grand.
Right.
I mean, for 15 grand, you're buying a really good example of a 5.5 liter V8 200 mile an
hour Mercedes convertible.
Why are they so cheap?
They break a lot.
Mine's broken now.
Is it?
Yeah.
That's just the age though.
It's 23 years old.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the only reason.
But all those cars of that era when, you know, technology started to become big in cars,
just a little bit more unreliable than stuff that come before it that didn't have the tech.
Yeah.
It's all the failings of the tech as it started to come in in those early 2000s cars.
I've got like a real passion for, it goes back to childhood, doesn't it?
I've got a real passion for like 90s early 2000 cars.
You know, I think they're just so, so cool.
Like a CL 65 or a 560 SEC wide body.
Or like, yeah, just things like that.
I just think, you know, I'd probably pay more attention to that car if you had it than
what I would the 918.
Yeah.
You know?
I'm probably the same as well.
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You're a property guy.
Yeah, predominantly that's our business, yeah.
So, why don't you just have all this money in property?
Because I love cars.
And I feel like I've done just as well out of these cars as I have out of some property.
Really?
In terms of, yeah, like I just recently sold my Roof BTR slant nose.
I've doubled my money on that in six years.
I don't sell property.
I'm in the rental game, simply to yourself.
So, selling a car for double.
I don't really do it in property, but in terms of the valuation goes up by double.
Probably not as quickly as some of these cars do if you buy the right cars,
but obviously not all of them, some of them.
And I do the cars because I love them.
I love property as well, but in a different way.
Also, I had this conversation with someone.
You can't enjoy your property.
You can't take it for a spin on the bus.
But that's the thing.
Like, you have your...
Cars don't have tenants.
You have your friends come over to watch a football match or something like that.
And they come, you take them in, you show them these cool cars.
Like, no offence, but you're not going to show someone your portfolio of like in rental properties.
Like, oh, we got this flat here and that flat there.
Like, you go, there's a 918 there, there's this there, there's that there.
It's cool, it's a conversation piece.
You can enjoy it and it doesn't lose money, really.
Obviously some cars do, but...
When you add in the maintenance, though, that changes the game, doesn't it?
You say that, but it doesn't really.
Most of these cars go up by more than the maintenance.
Do they?
These ones, yeah.
I don't tend to buy depreciating cars, really.
Like, yeah, I've got a couple of the Rolls Royces and stuff,
but other than that, you can stomach a few that are losing money.
And you've got nothing here that's massive maintenance.
No.
You know, we've got, you know, we're not talking Bugatti kind of bills here.
No.
You know, they're all, the BMW stuff is pretty simple, isn't it?
Are you intentional, then, about buying cars that are easy to maintain and don't appreciate a lot?
You're careful with that, are you?
Yeah, very careful with that.
I can't enjoy something that loses money.
Are you married?
I'm glad you got in there before I...
Fucking hell.
I just, you know, like, whatever it might be.
I had an event at RSV for a long time.
I had it for about three years.
I lost a lot of money on that, and I hated it.
Every time I looked at it, it pissed me off.
I can't enjoy it.
Business partners like that, yeah.
I can't enjoy it if every time I look at something, it's losing money.
And it just wound me up.
And, you know, it's happened in a few cars.
I had an M4 DTM edition, which is like a rare special car.
They never took off, did they?
It went off.
For the first three cars made a profit, all the rest of them lost a load of money.
And I hated it for that.
They just, they never did...
I remember having them new.
I bought my new, yeah.
And it was such a dangerous car to buy new.
I mean, you could lose 50% in that car.
Yeah, I think I lost, like, 40 odd grand on it.
Yeah.
And I had that car for, from new, so 2017 till, when last, like, November.
So, 89 years I had that car.
Yeah.
And lost, like, 40 odd grand in it, which isn't too bad.
Not when you break it down.
When you, but I did, also, I only did 1500 miles.
You obviously, you lost 48 grand in the first month.
You had it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like I lost more because I could have sold it for 30 grand more when I first had it.
Yeah, I got you.
Yeah.
You know?
And I feel like that, that was a loss.
And then I had a CSL, the one after that.
And soon as somebody offered me silly money for that, it was gone.
Yeah.
Because I thought, the money that I just lost in the DTM, I could make back in that one.
Yeah.
What's the most you've made on a car?
In value, my 458, definitely, in...
Are we talking hundreds of thousands?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
In percentage terms, probably, like, some of these old BMWs.
Yeah.
Because...
Buy it for three grand, sell it for 30, kind of thing.
Buy it for three grand, and 56 years later, it's worth 30 or 40 grand.
It's crazy.
Right.
Yeah, that's like 10X on a car, and a car that I love, and I still haven't sold, you know?
Yeah.
But it just, it happens like that sometimes, but...
And what have you got your eye on at the moment?
What do you think is undervalued you want to get your hands on?
I'm not actively looking for anything now after I've bought this.
I'm kind of...
What's this?
The 911?
The 911, yeah.
But then, like...
Okay, so...
I said I'm not looking for anything, but then the other day, I just bought an Eleanor Mustang
and another 355 Coupe, just because...
You got another one of those?
Yeah, I bought it the other day.
Why?
I haven't even seen it yet.
The price was right for both cars to buy it that day, and I just...
And I like the idea of the Eleanor Mustang, because...
I don't know.
I'm a...
I like nostalgia.
Yeah.
I can tell from a lot of your cars.
Got in 60 seconds is, you know, another one of those top films of my childhood.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
And that's a cool car as well.
Yeah.
Do you still think they're good, fair money, the 355s?
Because they've gone up, haven't they?
I think so.
We were literally talking about this over breakfast, but I think anything's right if you buy it
right.
Yeah.
I try to buy a car at the right money, and that tends to be where the game is, I think.
How do you buy a car at the right money?
I don't know.
I just...
I only buy things if it's the right money.
I've got no interest in paying over the odds of anything.
You can only buy a car at the right money if you make it very convenient and easy for
the person to sell it to you.
You're there, you're in front of them.
There's no if, buts, or maybes.
You haven't got to go to a raise the money.
I've got the money here.
I'll buy it now.
I'll pay you now.
And people do offer me a lot of stuff.
Probably nowhere near as what Karl does, but...
The weird stuff that I'm into.
Yeah.
People kind of know that, and they...
Weird attracts weird.
Yeah.
And, you know, there's also...
There's a cult following for weird stuff, but if someone has got something weird for
sale and they need to sell it, it's very hard for them to sell.
So big risk, big reward.
Right.
And what is the weirdest car you've got, do you think?
That Monte Carlo is pretty obscure.
The Hammers are, you know, there's stuff that's just odd that other people wouldn't buy.
Like, I've got a load of old Range Rovers.
I don't know, like 12 of them.
12 old Range Rovers.
Like old P38s and stuff like that.
Just, I like old weird stuff, I guess.
Just stuff that's obscure that...
And the two Hummer H ones you've got, you were touching earlier how they're both very different.
Yeah.
One's a Duramax.
The coup...
The hard top is a Duramax.
I'm a coup.
They're both black pickups, but the hard top is a Duramax.
So that's like the faster engine.
So that's a petrol lover, isn't it?
Both diesels.
Both diesel.
The Duramax is the more modern 6.6-litre diesel, turbo diesel.
And then the 6.5 is an engine from the 70s or 80s or something.
And the 6.5 is like 150 horsepower or something like that.
Where he's 11 ton.
Yeah.
It doesn't go up hill.
The 6.5 top speed is about 55 miles an hour.
And that's having it.
You can go past that on a scooter.
That's having it.
Yeah, but he's got to hang out the window with a fucking rocket launcher.
How'd you go in past?
And the other one, the Duramax will do 120 and it can switch to RWD.
120 is something that big must feel.
How fast have you driven it?
Was it shaking everywhere?
It was okay.
It was okay.
But it shakes anyway.
It shakes at 10 miles an hour.
So it doesn't shake any more at 120.
Did it feel like this is not going to stop?
It felt okay.
It felt okay.
It was probably way too fast for it.
It could do donuts.
Really?
I've done donuts in that car because it goes to the rear wheel drive.
It's got loads of power.
Right.
It's like a thousand-foot pound of torque.
That thing.
Wow.
But the convertible is nowhere near that.
No.
Did you import them both in from America?
No.
The convertible from Japan.
Yeah.
And the coupe, not the coupe, the hardtop.
I don't know why I keep saying coupe, but the hardtop I bought from here.
Oh, really?
That was already here.
Where does Nick's collection rank on the weirdest collections you've seen?
Well, it's the most diverse collection I've seen.
So weird.
Yeah.
It's a nice way.
Wait till you see the Cavaliers.
You've got old Cavaliers?
Yeah, a couple of old Cavaliers because my dad had them when I was young.
Right.
Really?
Have you still got the Diablo?
Yeah.
It's not here?
It's not here.
No, Testros is not here either.
There's quite a few cars that are not here.
They can't be here all the same time with nothing.
Yeah.
And something's always wrong with something.
So they're always at different garages getting repaired and what.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I know some other cars that it has that are not here like the Diablo.
That would be, you know, next to the Cornish for me as probably more so.
Did you ever drive that?
It's been having like a full-engine rebuild.
Right.
So I haven't driven it in a little while, but yeah, I did drive it.
Yeah.
And I will drive it.
That's a cool car.
Yeah, yeah.
I used to have that car that he's got.
Yeah?
The same car?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it came in.
Did you ever drive it?
No.
But it came in from a mutual friend of ours and it came in from Japan and it had neon
lights underneath the car.
LEDs everywhere.
LEDs everywhere.
It had like Swosky crystal badges and lettering on the back of it.
Like the door handles were all crystal.
I don't know if the wheels are here somewhere.
It had a set of huge chrome wheels on it.
Yeah, big massive dished chrome wheels.
They're here somewhere.
It was a proper Japanese like car meat Diablo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I've got a random question.
You guys would know this better than me.
I'll ask you both.
These car tours, you know, the Gumball type tours.
What happens on these tours that you guys don't talk about on these tours?
Have you done Gumball?
I've not done Gumball, no.
There's quite a few of them now, isn't there?
I did Gumball last year.
It was pretty good.
Was it good?
What have you heard happens that no one talks about?
Well, I haven't because no one talks about it.
But you guys have been on them.
It's like asking someone how you become a Freemason.
You know, you're not allowed to know unless you know.
But how am I supposed to know?
You can't know, you know.
I don't know.
What happens on these tours, Nick?
Just it's like a boys lads trip with loads of like-minded individuals.
So you go on them still?
I went on last year, probably next year.
Not this year, but next year, probably going on it again.
Yeah.
So is it because they're a lot of money, aren't they?
Yeah, not of money, but...
How much are they?
It was in the region of 80-ish grand.
Right.
Is it worth the 80 grand?
I think for the connections you make, the people that you get to know and the fun that you have.
The fun's half of it, but I mean like the people you get to know and you become friends with.
Yeah.
It's because you're all on this crazy trip together.
And you've got a lot in common already.
And then you have even more in common once you've done this thing together.
And it kind of becomes like a family.
Like once you join the WhatsApp group and it's all the alumni of Gumball were in this WhatsApp group.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah.
Cool place.
A lot of individuals that are, you know, super influential people.
You see the thing with me with these tours, I would look at it as a...
How many cars could I buy?
Yeah.
It's like a business, you know.
It's networking.
And then also I think to myself, oh, you know, we've got...
So the Gumball's called Gumball 3000 because it's 3000 miles.
And I would think to myself, all I do all day is drive a car.
And now I'm going on holidays cost me 80 grand and I get to drive a car all day.
Like it's...
You know, so I have a different mind frame because...
Can you go as a passenger?
That would be even worse.
Yeah.
You know, I wouldn't want to go as a passenger.
Right.
But I don't know, I'm just sat in somebody else's car that they're driving for 3000 miles.
Yeah.
And you do are driving the long distances every day and stuff.
But you...
The crazy experiences, like we went to the Remac factory and got personal tours from Mate Remac.
Yeah.
You know, things like that.
And you see him drifting around this Remac in the middle of this little car park just
for fun.
Yeah.
You know, we went to Mugello race track last year on the Gumball.
Everyone's, you know, bought all their cars out and we're all on the track and stuff.
It was just...
There's loads of cool things.
And you went to like random places you probably never visit otherwise.
Yeah.
We went to Serbia and went to Belgrade and had like one of the best experiences of any
country ever in Belgrade.
It was brilliant.
Right.
And I never would have gotten there otherwise.
No.
I just went there because the Gumball took us there and it was brilliant.
Yeah.
So would you ever go there now?
Yeah, I'd never say no.
But I mean, they're a great excuse for somebody to get their cars out and to use their cars.
People are not using their cars enough.
No.
I mean, I know you do, but a lot of people buy these incredible cars and they just don't
see the light of day because they've either got nowhere to take them or no time.
Well, if you've paid 80 grand to go on a driving tour, then you've got the time.
So it's an excuse for them to break it out.
I think they're great.
No, that's not a bad person.
That's for two of you.
Yeah, that's for the car.
That's for the car.
So there's two of you.
So you just go with a friend.
You go with a friend, you split the cost.
But you know, the Gumball now is wild.
You drive your car, you put on an aeroplane, they fly you from China to somewhere else.
It's all over the world.
This is not like a Euro tour.
This is different continents.
Yeah, the Gumball is the craziest one.
I've been on a few other ones as well.
Generally, it's just good fun and it's a good time away with some of your mates or whatever.
We do one ourselves.
We organize it between myself and a friend of mine with a bunch of our mates, our staff
and a few friends or whatever.
And it's just a good way to get out and enjoy the cars with your mates.
And it's like a bit of a driving holiday.
I know you say you don't like the idea of driving every day when you drive every day.
But you know, you still get to go out with your mates and have an excuse to go out with your mates.
Oh, yeah.
No, 100%.
So yeah, I mean, I'd never say never.
I've done them before and they were cool.
I remember I'd done one called the ModBall.
Have you ever done the ModBall?
Yeah, I've done the ModBall.
And the guy who runs the ModBall owns it.
He's a customer of mine.
He's a friend of mine.
And I started in London and went out the night before, just got a big pre-party.
I had way too much to drink.
Next morning, like seven o'clock, we're queuing in the mall in London.
That's where it starts.
And the first point is Paris.
And we started early in the morning.
Everyone's a little bit hungover, but excited because it's cool.
It's great.
All these cars.
And then you drive to Paris, which is like seven hours.
And then you get to Paris and it's the first day and all excited.
You go back out again.
And I just had too much to drink again.
Really?
I woke up at like 11am and everyone had left.
Like everyone started again at 8am in the morning.
They've all gone.
And there was me and my co-driver.
And the tour finished in Monaco.
And I was like, should we just go to Monaco for a few days?
So we just drove from Paris to Monaco and had three days in Monaco.
And while the tour was still going on, and then when we landed back everyone was like,
oh, I haven't seen you on the trip.
I was like, oh, you know, we just skipped.
We were just ahead of everybody.
You know, so, yeah, I mean, look, one or two or three days is cool.
But the gumballs, what, are weak?
It's a weak, yeah, 3,000 miles.
There's a lot of drive in the gumball.
To be fair, this year we skipped the last leg.
We didn't do the drive from Nice to Valencia.
We skipped that and went straight to Ibiza.
We were knackered.
We were driving like 19 hours a day, partying 19 hours a day,
sleeping two or three hours a day for however many days.
By that point, we were like, do you know what?
We're going to get a lie in tomorrow and just fly to Ibiza.
And you just, you need a holiday.
Yeah, after that.
Basically what happened, yeah.
Yeah, we needed a holiday afterwards.
It was intense.
The gumball was the most intense one.
What did you do it in?
Prasangwe.
And what are you going to do it in?
Not doing it this year.
You're going to do it next year?
Yeah, I don't know what we're doing next year.
918 maybe?
Maybe, yeah.
I don't know, 3,000 miles is heavy.
Oh, you've got luggage cars, haven't you?
Yeah, but 3,000 miles is heavy in a hypercar.
That's why we did it in Prasangwe because you wanted to comfort a little bit.
The driving you're doing every day.
Good car to do it in.
Yeah, it was perfect for it too.
But we're doing a little one next, in two weeks time, just me and my mates and stuff.
And you're doing it in the 918?
The 918.
I'm taking the Phantom as well because, you know, like Carl said,
you get drunk right before and you don't want to,
you don't want to be sitting in a hypercar for the next six hours.
I would definitely do one of these tours, but I'd need a Phantom and a driver.
And I would just get in the back.
That's basically your drive.
That's the plan this time, is have this for some of the spirited driving
and then just jump in the back of the Phantom for a little bit.
And you know, a lot of people think, they say,
oh, it was so good, I met a guy over there and he had a whatever car.
And, you know, he let me take that on that leg and he took my car on a leg
and we just swapped cars.
And, you know, I sold a car recently to a guy who went on a Ferrari tour
and the Pace car, it was a classic Ferrari tour.
And the Pace car was a 430, 16M.
And he said to the guy, he had a Ferrari 275
and he said to the guy, no air conditioning.
Like, do you want to drive my car today?
And I'll drive the 430 scud.
And he was like, oh, do you mind?
And we were talking about a three and a half million pound Ferrari 275.
He's like, yeah, do you mind?
Oh, that's great.
He said, when I got in the 430, 16M, like, I just didn't want to get out of it.
He came back from the tour two days later, he bought a 16M for me.
He just loved it.
He said, I like, what a car, I can't believe it.
So that's it.
I mean, you've probably done the same where you think, oh, I'll have a try at that.
I do a few hundred miles on that.
You think, wow, I need one of these.
Yeah, exactly.
That's the reason I bought a 355 to be fair.
I drove a friend's one and I was like, why haven't I had one of these before?
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So 70 cars, including your full-time guy, all the maintenance, all the insurance,
rough cost for a year.
I haven't asked you many money questions because I know you want to be private,
so I've gone easy on you, but people are going to want to know.
Yeah, definitely in the six figures because of the maintenance more.
Because you get some big bills, you do get some big bills that are 30 grand, 40 grand occasionally.
They're not every car every year, but they do come up.
Are you near 100 or are you near 200, do you think?
Probably bang in the middle somewhere.
I try not to add out.
Because you don't like it.
Yeah, I don't like it.
But you could be 150 a year just to keep all the cars on the road.
Yeah, something like that.
Nick, I want to say a big thank you for allowing us to come to your place.
I think it's an amazing place.
Thanks for being open about everything you've shared on the show.
Is it all right if you have a walk with Carl and show him some cars?
Yeah, definitely. Show me what's for sale.
This is the Rolls Royce section then.
Yeah, something like that.
Phantom 8, Cullinan, and we've got a dorm with white walls.
And we've got a Corniche for white walls. We're using white walls on the Phantom.
Yeah, I can't get them in that size, but I'm going to get some.
So talk to me about this Corniche.
Yeah, I love the plate.
Yeah, I had that plate actually made like the old aluminium characters and stuff.
Yeah, it was quite hard to get hold of.
But I bought this car from Duke of London, you know, Marlin.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah.
What's the mileage?
40-ish thousand miles.
Okay, so it's a low mileage car.
1971.
72.
72.
So it's the first of the Corniches. Before that they were called Drophead.
Yeah, so it's a Corniche one as they call them.
Yeah, the Corniche one.
And they've done five series of Corniche.
Yes, yeah, five series of Corniche.
The ones are the only ones with the chrome bumpers.
And then all the rest are plastic bumpers.
I wanted a chrome bumper car.
Yeah, yeah.
Just because I just love the way it looks.
Can you remember the one, the two-pipe video?
He had one in the video.
Yeah, the Corniche four.
That was a Corniche four.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that was Corniche four.
Somebody recently bought that.
I saw it on YouTube.
Really?
Yeah, like one of the Vinriki guys in America.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's got to be roofed down, hasn't it?
Yeah, definitely.
You've got to have the roof.
It's not the same effect with the roof up.
I agree.
I agree.
And it's all like putting it up and down because of the buttons on the tournier cover.
Yeah, I know, I know.
It's a 1-0 in a car.
It's a two-man job in 40 minutes.
Yeah, the 1-0 in a car and it's in perfect condition really.
It is.
No, it's really nice.
They do take some maintaining though.
I've had it about two years and they do take some maintaining.
I took it to Lake Como the first year I had it.
Did you drive it all the way there?
Trailed it there.
I was trying to drive it back.
It broke down in Cannes.
Yeah.
I got from Como to Cannes and then it broke down outside Hotel Eden Rock just as I pulled
up in front of the valley and just spit all its coolant everywhere right in front of the hotel.
It was quite embarrassing but just left it there.
I should give you some Tom Hartley transfers to put up the side of the door when that happens
just so it's like free advertising.
I was like Cap for that.
It was fairly entertaining but yeah.
What else we got?
We've got the dawn.
Again, probably the car that I use the most other than the Golf is this because it just does everything.
Do you have a Rolls Royce babysitting there?
Yeah, there is.
When my eldest was little when I first bought this car I got the seat made to match it and
then after that I bought the Cullinan in the exact same spec so the seat goes into that
as well and then the Phantom's got the same interior as well so the seat matches all free.
So when you're buying these cars, the Cullinan and the Phantom, they've got to have seashell interior
because of the baby seat.
I think so, yeah, now.
But it's actually just happened by chance.
That car was in a repossession auction.
My brother-in-law sent it to me, said this is the exact same spec as your door and you've got to buy it.
And they do look well together.
Same specs, chrome wheels, white walls.
Yeah, well I did the chrome wheels and white walls on the Cullinan and it didn't have those.
This is the original press car from Goodwood that they used for the Grand Tour.
James May drove this to Italy.
This is this car.
So that's got some, a little bit of history for a dawn, not many of them have.
Dorns are doing well, don't they? Dorns and wraiths and stuff they're doing.
Yeah, well they stopped making them, haven't they?
Yeah, and everything else which they're doing, the two doors, is electric.
Electric, yeah, so if you want one then engine, you've got to buy an old one.
And you've got the big boy Phantom 8.
Yeah, the Phantom 8, yeah.
Starlight roof lining.
Starlight roof lining, yeah, seashell interior.
I bought this car because it was cheap to sell and now I find I love it.
I mean they do that to you.
Yeah, so I'm really enjoying using it at the moment.
It's perfect, I just took it to London this weekend, had a driver, just nice to be in the back of.
Yeah, it's an awesome car.
And you know they've lost all their value.
To go and buy a new Phantom today is half a million pounds, that's what they cost.
Yeah.
And you think these are over half price as in like, you know...
They're under 200 now really.
Yeah, they're under 200.
Yeah.
These are massive.
Yeah.
And you know, you get a lot of people who daily their Cullinan.
Not many people will daily a Phantom because it is more of an occasion car.
You've got a driver to London with it.
You're not going to get a driver in the Cullinan.
No, because it's not so nice in the back.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So the place to be in that car is the back.
If that didn't match that one, I'd have already got rid of it.
Really?
Yeah.
Do you want to get rid of it?
I don't know.
Maybe.
But it's just because it matches that one, it's a nice pair.
Yeah, that's good.
But yeah, otherwise this is the better car.
So really what we're looking for is a Salamanca blue with seashell Phantom.
I think that works better with black.
And then the Cullinan goes though.
Maybe, maybe, yeah.
And now we're going to get into the more specialist things that we've got over here.
We've got a couple of H1 Hummers.
Yeah.
We've got a Monte Carlo on hydraulics.
Yeah.
We've got your SL500.
Yeah.
With retro wheels.
Yeah, Brabus three spoke.
Are they Brabus?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, the Brabus three spokes.
It's got corduroy interior, which I had done.
Yeah, as you said, that wasn't a factory option.
No, it was in blue leather, but the blue leather was quite tired on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I just wanted to do something different, so I did a corduroy interior on it.
It's quite nice.
Yeah, it's cool.
It's quite a lot of the wheels.
It's 90s.
It's 90s, isn't it?
I always wanted a car with three spokes.
I don't know why.
And there isn't many that can pull it off.
And I feel like this works on this.
This is a standard 430.
Spider, yeah, F1.
But it looks like a 16M.
You've got a 16M bumper.
It's got a 16M front bumper and a stripe.
But that's it, really, other than that.
It's a normal F1.
F1, yeah, 430.
I've had this car a long time.
It was my first...
No, it wasn't my first Ferrari, to be fair.
I had a Test Rossa before this, but it was my first more usable convertible one.
Yeah, and I've used it quite a lot.
I've enjoyed it.
I've had it eight years now.
Yeah.
Nine years.
And it is such a good car.
They're actually brilliant cars.
458 is a massive leap forward, but these are a good car.
Right, here we get to this.
Yeah.
Talk me through this one, Nick.
Right, so this is a 1980 Monte Carlo Chevrolet on hydraulic, straight and wheels, a full
chassis wrap.
It's had loads of work done to it.
The reason I like it is because of training day.
It's really that simple.
It's a bit of nostalgia.
I love that film.
I love most Denzel films, but that's probably his best one.
Is that paint on the roof?
That has been painted, yeah.
I actually would rather it be black.
All black.
But someone's put so much time and effort into it.
I feel like it'd be sacrificial to paint over it.
Yeah, it is artwork.
I don't know if you get a good look at it, but it's crazy.
As a piece to look at from up close, it looks great, but then as you step away, I don't like
it on the whole car.
So I do want to paint over it, but I feel like it'd be sacrificial to do so.
It would be disrespectful to the person who'd give that much time and effort.
And you know, this is on your hydraulic, so you make it bounce.
You can lift it up.
You can do the front.
It all sits down.
It all sits up.
Yeah.
It goes up and down, yeah.
I bet the kids love it.
The kids do love it, yeah.
The other one, this one's got less hydraulics than that one.
That one's like fully does three wheels.
It properly hops up and down the 63 Impala.
Again, nostalgia, watching Snoop, Dre and 90s music videos.
Easy 63 Impala, 64 Impala, like the ones to have.
I've always wanted one.
I've never seen one before.
I've never seen one.
I'd never seen one until I actually bought one.
I've never seen one.
They're cool, aren't they?
I bought it off Instagram blind, never having seen one ever before.
Yeah.
And did you do any of the work to it, or did you buy it exactly how it is?
So when I bought it, it had hydraulics, much more simple system.
It just went up and down.
I had it chassis-wrapped, because if you don't chassis-wrap them, they twist.
If you try and three-reel them, it'll hop them.
So that one's had full chassis-wrapping and stuff that I'd had done to it.
Yeah.
So now it can do everything that I wanted it to do.
And now we're heading over to the beast.
What a number plate for this car.
Yeah, B3 AST.
I've also got B33 AST.
Yeah.
And then BEA 5070, which is on the other hammer.
I should probably put the other one on there, but yeah.
I'm a number plate geek, as we've said.
Yeah, what better plate for what better car?
It just fits, doesn't it?
Yeah, I think so.
And then I've got, obviously, beauty and beast that go together.
Yeah.
So beauty's on the impala.
Yeah, so I've got beauty and the beast plates that go alongside each other.
None of your family give you a hard time for having all these cars scattered everywhere, no?
Sometimes I'd hear about it, but not really, no?
Yeah.
Right, let's head over and let's have a look at this impala.
Yeah, so this is a 1963 impala.
It's full hydraulics, three wheels.
It does everything.
Speakers under the seats.
Yeah, I put all the speakers and stuff in it, but I don't want to cut up the door cards
because it's the original interior, so I wanted to just put them somewhere where
they're in their own boxes just sat on the floor, really.
So they don't damage or cut up the original interior.
Not that haven't cut up the...
Is this convertible? Does the roof come off?
No, it doesn't know.
But they did do a convertible, haven't they?
They did a convertible.
There's a rag top, so it's a soft top convertible, the convertible,
but this isn't one of those, no?
It does kind of look like it could, but it isn't.
Yeah, I think it did.
It isn't.
They're super rare in rag tops, especially in good condition.
Are they?
Yeah, you just don't find them anymore.
They were the average American car back in the 60s,
but they are old cars now.
They're old cars, but the whole rap culture has brought them back to life, hasn't it?
Exactly, yeah.
I bet in America you could go and buy some for just obscene amount of money.
You see them go through those like Barrett and Jackson auctions and stuff,
and they're just like 500 grand and stuff.
That's what I was going to say.
I've seen them go for half a million dollars.
Yeah, yeah.
Crazy, whereas here they're worth a lot, lot less than that.
It's not the culture.
Our grandads never drove one, where someone's granddad did drive one.
That's it, exactly.
But for me, it's just the rap videos and stuff, and it's a cool car.
And you've got an original first edition G55.
Yeah, it was the first of the AMGs.
Yeah, I remember having these new, and they only ever made them in left-hand drive.
Yeah, so this is actually a Beverly Hills car.
It was owned by an NBA player.
Oh, really?
Yeah, a one-owned car as well, until last year, so 2024.
He PX'd it in for a new G63 or something, apparently,
and I bought it off the dealer that he PX'd it into.
But yeah, I always preferred the proper G55, so I don't know.
Same again with nostalgia, watching MTV Cribs growing up,
and everybody had one of these on Cribs back in the day.
And I wanted one in silver, the ball bars and all of that.
And this is a Beverly Hills car as well, so it's proper Cribs.
And then I put some big Brabuses on it.
It's got the Brabis front lip, which has had since new,
the big Brabis spoiler on the back.
And it was cool.
This is horrendous to drive.
I know, I know.
It follows wherever the road is going.
It just wants to pull you left and right,
wherever the camera of the road is doing.
That's where this car's going.
I know, I know.
Well, let's have a look inside.
Yeah.
There's a couple of E30s in here.
So, I mean, from some of the other E30s,
I've seen you like your E30s.
Yeah, I've got quite a few of them.
That one's got a V8 in it.
That's got a V8 in it.
Yeah, it's got a four-litre V8 in it.
It's engine converted.
But that drives well with a V8 in it.
It does drive well, to be fair.
Surprisingly well.
There's a lot of power, torque for such a little light car.
It's like a one-ton car,
but with like 300 foot-pounds of torque,
which is, you know, plenty for that car.
This one's just a stock car,
but it's just in a rare colour.
The engine that you put in this,
you took out of an M3?
No, out of a 5-series, 540i.
Oh, right, okay.
So like a mid-90s 5-series.
Yeah.
But they had it in an auto box or whatever.
This one's a manual converted,
so it's got a manual box that's made it to it to make it.
Manual, it's 4-litre V8.
It sounds amazing.
It's not something I'll probably do now,
but when I did this 10, 12 years ago,
I was in my early 20s,
and this is what I wanted to do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We mentioned earlier about the GSX2T plate on the red...
Oh, right, yes.
...E-54.
So that's the number plate that got me into number plates.
Originally, that was my dad's first number plate.
GSR is initials,
and then that was all it was, really,
but, yeah, and that's kind of where it all stemmed from.
And it's still on a red BMW 5-series.
Yeah, exactly that.
Although it's slightly different to the one it was,
but it's still a red BMW 5-series.
Yeah, because obviously I couldn't get the original one back,
similar to what was in your situation with the Corniche.
So, you know, the next best thing is this,
and it does still give me that nostalgia,
and, yeah, it does.
Like jumping in it makes me feel like I was, you know,
67 years old.
Six again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the point.
That's the point of these cars.
That's it.
And this is your first hypercar.
It's my first hypercar.
It's the biggest purchase to date of a car for me.
I've wanted one 10 years ago when these came out,
or however long ago that was.
They've just always been iconic to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And out of the three, it always seemed,
I suppose, the less lairy one.
You know, like, you see the laughs,
and you see the P1s,
and they're quite a lot crazier looking,
especially back then,
but I feel like they've aged so much better these.
And looking around,
this is the only Porsche you have.
It's the only one that's here right now,
but I do have, like, three or four other.
Oh, you do?
Okay.
So now you've dipped your foot in the hypercar world.
You do realise there's no going back.
Yeah, I do.
I do realise that.
Yeah, now I feel like I've got to start making plans
for the next level.
This was an expensive decision.
Yeah, it was, yeah.
It was a big step up from supercars, I suppose.
Well, because what you're going to get now
is everyone that knows you
is now expecting you to have a hypercar.
Yeah, exactly.
And, you know, you're not going to go backwards.
You're going to go forwards.
Yeah, that's true.
So, LaFerrari next?
I'm not sure.
I drove one the same day I got this.
I drove a LaFerrari as well.
And for me, if I'm going to spend that sort of money,
I want the roof to come off.
Exactly, yeah.
And a LaFerrari Aparat is seven times the price of these?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Well, a LaFerrari Aparat is, yeah, 6000000 pounds.
And what are these one and a half?
So, yeah, four times the price.
At least four, yeah.
At least four times the price for,
do I get four times the car for it?
I'm not sure I do.
No, no, no, no.
You've got anything with a Ferrari badge on it, as you know.
Yeah, it's more of an investment.
Just commands just a human for having the badge.
But no, congratulations on making the leap
and getting in your first hypercar.
And, yeah, it's a big move.
To break the million pound barrier when someone's purchased
in a car, a lot of people are very hesitant.
You know, 500 grand, 600 grand.
And the Aparat was obviously getting up there.
But it wasn't quite the million pound bracket.
To break that bracket is not easy initially, is it?
No, especially in one car.
I've had millions of pounds of other cars for years now.
But in a hundred cars, not in one, you know.
So as a one investment piece, it is a lot.
But it needed to be done, I think.
And the next step, I think, is probably,
as you always talk about, baguettes, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
But they don't make any sheer on convertibles.
All roads lead to baguette.
Yeah, I think it's got to be that way, I think.
But I would only ever buy a convertible with that sort of money.
You can get a Grand Sport very well.
Yeah.
I think if we're going to spend that sort of money,
I want to be able to put the roof down.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Yeah.
And let's go to Nick's.
Yeah.
Now, this is more so about the number plate
than the car really.
It's a lovely car, but that number is probably
twice the price of the car.
Yeah, probably more, maybe.
Probably more.
Probably more, yeah.
The previous owner, I think, I spoke about it
in the podcast, bought it in auction,
never used the plate.
And he paid in excess of £40,000 in 1996
when you could have bought...
Which is a scene.
You could have bought a three bedroom house,
four bedroom house in this city
for that sort of money back then.
So, yeah, it was a hell of a lot of money back then.
He never used it even.
There was an interesting story of how I had to go buy it
because the car was in Thailand.
He wouldn't come back here.
He wouldn't do a deal in British money.
I had to convert it to Thai Bart.
Would you give like seven trillion Thai Bart for it?
It was in the millions, yeah.
Millions of Thai Bart it was.
I didn't go myself, so I had to send the money
to somebody I knew in Thailand to go and do the deal.
And everything in Thailand's cash.
They don't trust the banks out there.
So, my friend, I transferred him in English
and then he converted it into Thai cash.
Seven suitcases later.
And met him in a hotel lobby to do the deal.
The number plate had never been on a car,
so it was still on a V750 from 96.
You had to update the form to V5.
Yeah, so I had to FedEx the document back to me
because it wouldn't have signed online,
which I was hoping it would.
Because it was a valid form,
but the number is old,
so it has to be done on the old paper system.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It takes eight weeks.
It took ages.
It took ages and it was frustrating
because I was out of money,
but it was nothing other than a piece of paper.
And then you're thinking, is this a real thing?
Yeah, is this going to be right?
I knew it was right.
I'd done my due diligence.
I had all his IDs and everything else.
I knew he owned it and he'd sold it in good faith.
It was a little bit of a scary time.
But you do these deals,
and who else is going to do that deal for that plate
to get that over the line?
That's what makes it a little bit harder to get done.
Yeah, well, if you've got to go the extra mile,
and there's a story there.
Yeah.
You know, you tell your son and tell him your bank details.
Yeah, exactly that.
And it's the best possible.
I've got it with an extra one,
which I've had for a few years.
You don't get better than that.
No.
And I had it with the extra one for years,
and every time I looked at it,
I thought it needs to be the better one,
but it took a little while to find it and then get it done.
You don't have to find it considering it wasn't even on a car.
It wasn't on a car and it wasn't even in the country.
Well, well done.
And this is your baby, I think.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, it's the car that I always wanted to have.
Is this an occasion car for you?
Do you take it out or is it going to be an occasion?
I used to use it a lot more than I use it now.
Yeah.
Probably just because of the variation of choice.
And I've now got children and different things,
different occasions.
I do still use it.
It still goes to the odd car show or something like that.
But it went to like every European car show in 2014,
2015 when it was first done.
It won trophies and awards everywhere for modified car events.
Yeah, and it's just, it's rare and it's special.
And they weren't really valuable back then.
When I bought it, it was a 10 grand car.
Yeah.
Now, E30M3's I just sold on for 100 grand.
I know.
I know.
It's mad, isn't it?
I had an E30M3 Evo.
Yeah.
So one of 500 cars.
Yes.
All left-hand drive, sport Evo.
All left-hand drive.
And I bought it in a collection of EMWs.
I've just come back about four years ago.
And, you know, I think I paid like 70 grand for it and sold it for a little bit more.
It's from the 150s there?
The car today is thick end of 200,000, I think.
Yeah.
Over 150, definitely.
Yeah.
For a sport Evo.
Sport Evo's are the last of them.
They're 2.5s rather than 2.3s.
Evo 3, they refer to them, aren't they?
Because they've done an Evo 2 before.
Yeah, they did.
Sport Evo.
Sport Evo is the actual official name for it.
Yeah.
It was the third evolution of the E30M3.
So they did the first Evo, then the Evo Evolution 2, and then the Sport Evolution, which is
the last of them, which made them 2.5s, a bit more power and what have you in rare.
Yeah.
Yeah, the little plaque.
It's the 150s.
Yeah, that's it.
They're still a slow car.
Yeah.
They're 40 years old.
Yeah.
They're still a slow car.
In today's...
Yeah, that's a diesel Golf.
Yeah.
The original one.
A standard one.
A standard one is a diesel Golf.
Yeah.
That's how fast it is.
Nick, thank you for your time.
Thank you, Karl.
Thanks for coming.
Thank you for showing me around your cars.
No worries.
Yeah.
About this episode
Rare UK number plates and the economics behind them take center stage, from plates selling for “a million pounds plus” to the idea that “That number is probably twice the price of the car.” Nick Sahota’s obsession shows up in stories, like being told to remove a plate with “a horrible word,” and in his garage—“Probably S6… Yeah, it's on the Cullinan at the moment.” The conversation also zooms out to collector-car value, Gumball-style tours, and why some cars (and EVs) can be risky investments.
Today we sit down with Nick Sahota, an entrepreneur who has curated one of the UK’s most diverse car collections. From rare modified BMW models, a Rolls-Royce Corniche to the legendary Porsche 918, Nick walks us around his exclusive collection whilst detailing how he brought them and his unusual but profitable obsession with number plates.
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