Shift and Steer Nov 30, 2025

The New Scout at LA Auto Show, IHRA Stock Cars - S&S EP546

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Car

The Toyota RAV4 is a type of car called an SUV, which means it’s bigger than a regular car and can carry more people and stuff. It's popular because it's dependable and good for both city driving and adventures.

Car

Scout

The Scout is a brand of vehicles that includes an SUV and a pickup truck. It used to be popular in the past and has now returned with new models.

Concept

battery electric vehicle

A battery electric vehicle is a car that runs only on electricity and doesn't use gas or diesel. It has batteries that store energy to power an electric motor.

Car

Dodge Charger

The Ram Charger is a big SUV made by Dodge that was popular a long time ago. It was known for being tough and good for off-road driving.

Brand

Volkswagen Group

Volkswagen Group is a big car company in Germany that owns many brands like Volkswagen and Audi. They make a lot of different types of cars.

Brand

Audi

Audi is a car brand from Germany that makes high-end cars with lots of technology and luxury features.

Company

Ducati

Ducati is a brand that makes fast and stylish motorcycles, famous for their performance.

Car

Bmw I4

The BMW i4 is a new electric car that looks like a sporty coupe and is designed to be fun to drive while being eco-friendly.

Car

Volkswagen Id4

The Volkswagen ID.4 is a fully electric SUV that has a lot of space and modern technology inside.

Car

Bmw I3

The BMW i3 is a small electric car that's designed for city driving and made with eco-friendly materials.

Brand

Rivian

Rivian is a company that makes electric vehicles, like trucks and SUVs. They focus on creating environmentally friendly cars that run on electricity instead of gasoline.

Term

electric motor

An electric motor is what makes electric cars go. It uses electricity to create movement, instead of using gasoline like traditional cars.

Term

range extender

A range extender is like a backup generator for electric cars. It helps keep the batteries charged so the car can drive further without needing to plug it in.

Term

hybrid

A hybrid car uses both a gas engine and an electric motor to run. In this case, the vehicle is not called a hybrid because it mainly runs on electricity, with a generator for extra power.

Car

Dodge Ram

The Dodge Ram is a big truck that people use for carrying heavy loads and towing things like trailers. It's popular because it's tough and can handle a lot of work while still being comfortable to drive.

Car

RAM REV

The RAM REV is a new electric truck that will use electricity to power it but also has a gasoline engine to help it go further without needing to recharge.

Term

electric powertrain

An electric powertrain uses electric motors and batteries instead of a gas engine to move the vehicle. This means it can be more environmentally friendly and efficient.

Term

V6

A V6 is a type of car engine that has six cylinders arranged in a V shape. It’s known for being powerful while not taking up too much space under the hood.

Term

Pentastar V6

The Pentastar V6 is a specific type of engine made by Chrysler. It's designed to be efficient and powerful, and you can find it in many of their cars and trucks.

Term

frunk

A frunk is a trunk located in the front of a car, especially in electric vehicles that don't have an engine there. It gives you extra space to store things.

Car

Ford F150

The Ford F-150 is a popular truck that many people use for work and everyday driving. It's known for being strong and reliable.

Brand

Tesla

Tesla is a car company that makes electric cars, which run on batteries instead of gasoline. They are known for their advanced technology and long driving range.

Brand

Honda

Honda is a popular car company that makes cars, motorcycles, and generators. They are known for their reliable products.

Car

Nissan Leaf

The Nissan Leaf is a fully electric car that runs on batteries instead of gasoline. It's known for being a good choice for people who want to drive an eco-friendly vehicle.

Car

Chevrolet Volt

The Chevrolet Volt is a car that can run on electricity and gasoline. It has a battery that lets you drive a certain distance without using gas, but if you need to go further, it can use a small gas engine.

Car

BMW i8

The BMW i8 is a modern sports car that uses both a gasoline engine and electric motors. It has a unique sound that can be played through its speakers to make it sound more exciting when driving.

Car

Ford Mustang

The Ford Mustang is a sporty car that many people love because it looks cool and goes really fast. It's been around for a long time and is famous for being fun to drive.

Term

throttle

The throttle is a part of the car that controls how much air goes into the engine. When you press the gas pedal, you are opening the throttle to let more air in, which makes the car go faster.

Car

Chevrolet Camaro

The Chevrolet Camaro is a well-known sports car that has been around for decades. It's recognized for its powerful engines and sporty design, making it a popular choice for car lovers.

Car

Alpina Z8

The Alpina Z8 is a special version of the BMW Z8 that has been made even faster and fancier by a company called Alpina. It's a rare car that many collectors really want because of its unique features.

Part

headliner

The headliner is the fabric or material that covers the inside roof of a car. It helps make the car look nicer and can also keep it quieter inside.

Car

Bmw Z8

The BMW Z8 is a fancy sports car that looks really sleek and can go very fast. It's special because it combines modern features with a classic style from the past.

Term

S54

The S54 is a powerful engine made by BMW, often found in their sportier models. It's known for being fun to drive and having a strong performance.

Car

Jeep Gladiator

The Jeep Gladiator is a truck that can go off-road, which means it can drive on rough paths and trails. It has a bed in the back for carrying things, making it useful for both work and play.

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This is Belize.

Living in a van down by the river.

Oh, we're not supposed to talk about where you're living now on the air.

Hey, this is Shifton Stair.

Was that on the air?

Aaron, hey everybody, this is Shifton Stair.

Welcome to the party, pals.

This is a holiday week.

Things are kind of crazy.

This might be a little bit shorter show because Matt said that he has to get out of here.

He has grocery shopping to do.

He's got to buy a tofu turkey and some other stuff.

I don't know what he's talking about, but...

We've got to get down to just account to have an airstream down by the bay.

Wait a minute, can you get tofu shaped like an actual turkey?

Would it be just like Jell-O?

Because I don't understand tofu.

Tofu is like a paste.

Well, you could mold it into a turkey.

Yeah, hell yeah.

You know what? I'm going to order those when I go out on my new tour that I haven't told you guys about.

I'm going to announce it right now, but I've been working on this for many, many years.

A lot of people don't even know that I sing, but I am doing a tribute to Christopher Cross,

and I'm going out on a national tour.

Chris Cross's greatest hits.

You mean Chris Cross?

No, not Chris Cross. Christopher Cross.

You know, come on.

Chris Cross wore their pants backwards, didn't they?

Yeah.

Those are the guys that wore their pants backwards.

Yeah.

Yeah, you should do that.

I could do a mash-up.

Sing Christopher Cross, wear my pants backwards.

Wait, Matt, have you seen him in the hotel room when he has his sweats on?

They're usually backwards.

They're probably backwards.

Big ol' steam up the front.

We're having fun this week because it's a casual week.

Thanksgiving coming up here, but last week, Matthew went to the LA Auto Show.

Yes, we talked a little bit about that last week,

but Aaron, since you weren't here, I think one of the standout vehicles was the new Scout.

Oh, yeah.

The new, they have an SUV, so it's interesting.

So they're owned by Volkswagen.

They have an SUV and a pickup truck.

When it was initially announced, it was going to be straight up electric vehicle.

Now that the tides have turned a little bit, they've

they're going to do a battery electric vehicle, and then they're going to do one with a little

range extender, not like the Ram Charger with the V6 under the hood.

They're going to be like a small gas engine, almost like a generator, like tucked under the

back of the truck, like tucked under like the rear bumper or something.

I'm thinking a little bit like what Volkswagen may have, Volkswagen Group worldwide.

They probably have a small one-liter engine.

I think the Volkswagen Group owns Ducati, right?

Because they own Audi.

Yeah, the Audi portion, yeah.

And Audi manages or owns, it's under their umbrella, Ducati.

So it could be something like that.

So because like the BMW i4 has a little motor for the range extender, right?

Yeah, yeah.

So or i3?

I think it's i3.

i3, sorry, sorry, sorry.

I'm thinking of the Volkswagen iD4.

Yeah, the BMW i3, correct, yeah.

So you can fill it up.

You get a lot more overall total range.

I don't know if it's like five or six hundred miles.

I forgot what they said they were going to be getting.

But it was cool to see, but certainly bigger than the Rivian, right?

Because the Rivian we're starting to see all over.

This was bigger.

This was taller.

This is a bigger tire.

Yeah, it's cool looking.

And when you go to smaller, no, they're bigger.

And when they're big and that interior looks pretty nice too.

So when you when you go to the website and you see the interior,

look at the front, it looks pretty conventional,

like a center console and armrest and all that stuff.

But the one they had at the LA Auto Show was a bench seat in the front.

Oh, cool.

And it had like a full armrest, but but they had it folded up.

And it was really, really cool.

The idea of doing like a like a bench seat,

like a full bench seat in the front is cool.

Yeah, you know, isn't that ironic?

Because when was the last time you saw a bench seat and something like that?

I mean, it's been, I can't remember when.

I mean, every dog in the world is going to love it.

Right.

They're all just want to sit there.

They're going to be sitting there laying between mom and dad or whatever.

Yeah, they'll be just sitting in the middle watching.

Yeah, going this way.

So, you know, nobody's nobody's really driven it yet or tested it yet.

You know, like none of them, none of the media.

So I still think it's you could do like a reservation for a hundred bucks,

but it's probably not going to come out until 2027.

So we still got some time, but it looked good.

But yeah, certainly when I got up on it, I was like, oh, this is bigger than I thought.

Wow.

It's more like like a Tahoe size, right?

Yeah, I think so.

I think when you do the measurements, you're going to find out like it's bigger than

a Rivian, probably smaller than a Tahoe.

You think?

Oh, that doesn't leave a lot of room, really.

But the Rivian's not that big, you know?

I guess we'd have to pull the specs on it to kind of see.

But let me have one of our producers in the back room pull that right now.

All right, get right on that.

Get right on that.

Scout Motors is the website.

But again, it's like they don't have a lot of specs on it.

They haven't really talked about what the power plant is going to be,

like the little the little motor, the little electric motor.

So 350 miles of range on pure EV to 500 miles with the onboard generator.

That's substantial.

And they are calling it a generator.

Yeah.

Yeah, they did call it a generator.

Interesting.

But it's still meant to be a good off-road vehicle like roof rack

and the tailgate spare tire.

And it looks it's worth taking a look at.

Now, keep in mind when we say the onboard generator,

because it is that it is just a generator, a range extender,

the gas engine will not power the vehicle, which means the vehicle is electric.

So electric motors, good low end torque, good acceleration,

kind of minimal wear and tear on those components.

And then just the small generator to extend the range by charging those batteries on the fly.

And again, they didn't tell us yet how it's going to work.

Does it work automatically?

Can you turn it on and off on your own?

Well, it's interesting that it's not considered a hybrid at all,

even though it has a motor, because it has a generator

that powers and charges the electric system,

rather than assists in any kind of driveline.

So interesting.

Right.

So RAM is doing a truck.

It was going to be called the RAM charger,

but now it's maybe it's going to call the REV REV and same theory.

Now, this one has a big V6 under the hood, right?

But it is electric motors, electric powertrain.

And then the V6 extends the range and it can charge the batteries.

And then as it as the RPMs increase,

like if you were towing a trailer and going uphill,

that V6 would kick in and create more current for the batteries.

Right.

Now, in my head, though, I'm like, well, now you got carrying around,

I don't know, two electric motors or four electric motors and a battery

and a fuel tank and a size like Pentastar V6,

whatever they put under the hood.

So the weight is massive.

And I'm sure it would be good and it'd be functional

because it'll be a quick truck.

It'll be electric, right?

It's to be quick if it doesn't need that V6 all the time.

But different than what Scout is doing

because Scout's going to be doing a small gas engine generator.

It's not going to.

It still has a frunk, I believe.

I don't think, you know, like the RAM wouldn't have that.

Because it has a full-on engine.

It has a full-on engine there.

Radiators and cooling system and, you know,

like all the things you were trying to delete

when getting to an electric vehicle.

So it makes no sense.

And is it divorced so you can just run off the engine, you know?

Or is it?

Oh, I'm sorry, it only works with the electric motor.

No, it does.

It's not a hybrid.

The gas engine will not power the vehicle.

It only charges the batteries.

Like, what the f-

I mean, that makes no sense.

Because otherwise it would just be a Ford power boost, right?

It'd be the F-150 hybrid.

We talked about this on the last episode.

That it's, you've got a V6 that's not going to need

as much maintenance or anything

because all it is is a big generator, you know?

And we laughed at the guys who were driving around

with Honda generators strapped to the back of their Tesla.

I actually saw that.

I actually saw an electric vehicle with a big Honda generator

on a little, it looked like a rack for a little scooter,

you know, like for a mobility scooter.

Yes.

Yeah.

It's been tested again and again.

Like for us that have like the F-150,

you cannot charge the vehicle

while the vehicle is running and moving.

Otherwise, people would just be running that generator

and driving to Vegas the whole time and charging it.

But you can't, you have to, you have to stop and put it in park.

The vehicle can be all because you can-

Oh, that's without the hack, Matt.

There's a hack.

I was just going to say, I bet you there's a hack for that.

There's got to be a software hack.

Well, this was like a Nissan Leaf or something,

if I remember or so.

There's probably a hack for that.

Yeah, but when you put a Honda generator,

even though it's small and lightweight,

it basically adds 20% more weight to a Nissan Leaf.

Yeah.

Because it's, that car is a handful of nothing, right?

Exactly.

You've got to put a couple jumper cables

and stick some right on the porch.

Anyway, the scout is interesting, right?

Let's say if the scout with the range extender,

if it normally gets 300, 350 miles on the battery,

can you just get away with 90% of the time,

never even using the generator,

just drive it like an EV, plug it in like an EV.

And when you do want to take a trip,

does the generator get used?

Like, so the issue with the RAM is,

can you drive around with that thing for like a year

and never use the V6 engine?

And then what happens to that engine if you never use it, right?

Like, does it, does the oil start to, you know,

like, does it get dry?

Like, this came up with another car.

I forgot what it was.

Maybe it was something else had like a little gas engine.

And it was the Chevy Volt maybe had a little gas engine in it.

And we asked, when they first brought it to us,

they, we asked them like, what if you only plug it in

and you need it, it's, and they said,

after a certain amount of hours of time,

the gas engine will kick in on its own to lubricate the gas.

So it has a fail safety.

Yeah. Yeah. So it won't just like, like you couldn't just drive,

like not use it for six years and then fire it up for the first time.

Like, well, you could, you could take the spark plugs out.

I mean, you could, but then if we keep trying to hit the starter,

wouldn't it?

Yeah, as long as it's hitting an oil pump as well,

you're probably okay.

I'll accept the oil shooting out of the, you know,

whatever that's true.

Yeah, shooting out of the spark plug holes.

Or you just disconnect the coil.

Yeah, we'll just disconnect the coil there.

Yeah. I mean, I guess if you just disconnect the power to the starter.

There you go. Yeah.

It would always try to start it and not start it.

Like most of the new cars, it's probably the same thing that powers up your

stereo system or something like, you know, they're all linked now.

And you'd be like, ever since I disconnected the starter motor,

I, my air conditioner doesn't work.

Right. The trunk won't open anymore.

Yeah, exactly.

The trunk will pop open, right?

Just buy an old, an old school bell and connect the starter

to the school bell so every time it goes, it starts.

It's like, every time the base hits, my sunroof opens.

It's like, wow, we tapped that amp into the sunroof.

To the sunroof.

It's so good.

But knowing, knowing the knowing modern vehicles,

it's probably all integrated into the stereo anyway.

So I wouldn't be surprised.

Yeah, they are because they pipe in artificial sound.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, you know, they were doing it.

They were just doing it with that tube that would like go to the firewall,

but now they run it through the speakers.

I think BMW was one of the first to do it.

But like even my EV, it has like a propulsion sound that you turn it off.

But when you turn it on, it creates sort of this tron like sound.

And it's just, yeah, it's just coming through the speakers or something.

The i8, I believe, does that.

And I think that was it, was it BMW or was it Porsche that first designed that?

Porsche Audi, it was the Germans.

It was the Germans.

I remember the artificial sound through the speakers on a BMW.

Oh, was it BMW?

That's kind of where I remember it starting, but I can't say for sure.

But even the Mustang has a tube coming off of like the intake to the firewall

because, you know, the cars are quieter.

So they want that engine noise.

And Misha's Porsche definitely has something.

Because when you first get back on the throttle, if you guys notice,

because you were back there, it goes.

Yeah, well, we were holding on for a dear life.

Yeah, we were in that position that you're supposed to assume on a plane, you know,

crashing down your knees.

Holy, we couldn't go any farther than just to our shoulder blades.

I think for you guys, Brad and Matt had their heads between each other's knees.

Listen, that's how you do it.

We were like lego pieces.

Yeah.

I wish I was really good at electronics and I could build a hack for cars that,

you know, the sound goes through the you could come up with different things that

people could buy like the module.

And like, you know, instead of that, you know, it just goes, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, or, or going faster.

I'm going faster.

Oh, man, we're really going fast now, you know, somebody would buy those.

I guarantee you because if they're going down the street, like the new Mustangs or something,

and it's like, like, like you said, it's a cammed out Camaro from like, you know, 1970s.

I think it's Von Hotrod's foam that goes ring, ring, ring.

I hope it's him.

I hope he did it himself.

My buddy, my buddies, he had his girlfriends ring tones set to a crow.

Ring and go.

And he'd go, oh, that's my girlfriend.

Who makes the Scout international harvester?

Yes, I mean,

Well, speaking of BMWs, I had a quite an adventure in Dad's Z8 driving all the way down and the

pouring rain and I get to the point that's right.

You had to drive in the rain on top of it.

And I had just spent like 16 hours fully detailing that thing, knowing that I was going to have to

drive the rain, but the hardtop on it, hardtop hadn't been on it since it was new.

I think it's an 03 or 04.

So, so, so like, like the next morning I went to leave and I'm like, what is touching my head?

Oh my God, the whole headliner came out, like the whole headliner came out.

So I had to put a hat on, and I thought I was going to start a fire at some point with the

friction on the headliner.

But that little car drives nice, that little Z8 Alpina.

And of course I watched one of Doug's shows, you know, this is a BMW Z8.

And I didn't know, but I think one of the coolest things about that car that I had no idea was

all the indicator lights, the blinkers, the dash, all of that was neon lighting.

Not like, like, like tube neon lighting.

And then I went out and I looked at it.

Sure enough, you can see the whole, you can see the tubes running along those gills.

And it's neon lit.

I think that's the only car in the world that I know of that's neon lit lighting, right?

Does it still work?

Yeah, it's still worked.

Okay, funny you say that.

After all the rains, Brad, I was just telling Matt that the BMW Z8, all the lighting

is neon.

It's neon lit.

You can see the tubes and everything.

It's really neon, really?

It's neon.

And Matt said it's reliable.

And I said, well, funny thing, after all the rain, the left front running light stopped working.

So when you turn on the blinker, it would blink really fast.

And I'm like, what is going on?

And the car was dry.

This was when I stayed overnight.

And I just checked everything, make sure everything was working before I shipped it off.

And it was going, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

I'm like, ah, how can a blinker be out?

It's a neon light, which I'm glad I'd found out because I'd be looking for a bulb, right?

Yeah.

And I noticed it was the running light.

But because it's one single unit, I'm like, how did the running light not work?

But the blinker does because it's all one big oval tube.

And then I hit rain again on the way to the port.

And the blinker was like, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

I'm like, it's working now that the rain started.

When I got there, the rain had stopped.

I was sitting outside for three hours in the sun.

Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

I'm like, what is going on?

So dad's going to have to take it to the dealership and figure that out.

But what a cool, what a cool, fun little car.

Sounds good.

Handles good.

Was comfortable to drive.

It was cool.

I mean, it's a cool, cool car.

So that's one of the cars he's taken to Hawaii.

Yes.

And it's number 444 of 555.

So according to Doug, I think they made, well, not a lot.

I think 2,700 or 3,700 of them.

So it's a very limited edition.

But what I did find out is that the Alpina is not the performance version.

It's the luxury version.

Yeah, that's right.

So it has the 4.8 liter BMW motor.

But the regular, the regular Z8 has the, so what would it be?

The S56, right?

Not the S54.

I think the S56 M series motor.

So I was like, oh my gosh, the Alpina doesn't even have the M motor.

It just has the 4.8.

So I think it's just under 400 horsepower.

And the standard with the M motor is 425 or 430.

It's not times.

I think the M motor is a 4.9 liter.

It's the S62.

Oh, it's the S62.

And yours is the 4.8.

It's the M.

They're cool little cars, yeah.

Yeah, regardless, they are cool little cars.

And I got to say, the fit and finish is really nice.

You know, some of the leather, like where your fingernails have scratched it off,

you know, the coloring.

But it's nice.

It's solid.

It is literally a German muscle car.

That thing feels and sounds and drives heavy almost like,

and I think we mentioned before, almost like your old Mustangs there, Matt.

Yeah.

My old Fox body.

The thing with the Alpinas though is they didn't have a manual transmission.

They were all automatic.

No, that's right.

Only automatics.

Yeah, which is a bummer too.

The automatic's OK.

It's definitely slow.

And there's no sport mode.

That button's blank.

We're on the other one.

It would have the sport mode.

And yeah, the other ones were manual shifts.

Yeah, there's definitely some other differences.

But it's great fun.

It went from 395 horsepower to 375 in the Alpina.

But yeah, interesting that they, for whatever reason,

this is like at the tail end of production,

they made it more of a softer GT car instead of kind of the like,

because they're like 400 horsepower, 395 manual transmission and sporty suspension.

And then they like softened it up.

Yeah, totally.

But I mean, I didn't drive it hard, of course.

But they're valuable cars.

It's not mine.

It was bad weather.

But it handles well.

I mean, I didn't notice any significant body roll or anything.

It was good.

Yeah, it was good.

But on the way there, I wanted to just mention

that I stopped to see Richard at Magnaflow.

Oh yeah.

How's he doing?

He's doing well, man.

And I just happened to catch him on a great day.

I was like, hey, man, I had to bug you last minute.

But what are you doing for lunch?

And he goes, I'm free.

And I went, excellent.

I'll be there in 10 minutes.

And so we did a quick tour and saw some of the stuff that wasn't running when I was there

last few years ago.

And then we took the company's 392 Jeep out.

And boy, that thing will put you in the seat.

Nice car.

It's a little bit newer than ours.

So it had a different screen and different interior and a nice dash.

It was, yeah, it was good.

But boy, of course, it sounded amazing too.

I'm sure, yeah.

The big V8 in that thing is a monster.

Yes, it is.

I wonder what they're doing for the fuel tank, though, on those.

Because I know when you try to convert the Gladiator to a 392, fuel was a big problem

because you can't extend the fuel tank because of the way the exhaust configuration has to be.

I don't know.

The real issue.

So I forgot to ask about that.

Well, he doesn't exhaust for it.

So mention where you were.

You just said you stopped to see Richard.

Oh, sorry.

Yes.

So I had to take the car to San Diego to ship it at the port there.

And so along the way there, is he an ocean side, right?

Ocean side, yeah.

So I thought it was a different building.

And I was mapping it.

And he said, no, we're an ocean side.

Literally, as I was talking to him, I missed the exit.

Like, it was that close.

It was literally that close.

And I had to take a different exit and go all through these residential areas.

But it was good timing.

Some things are just meant to be.

And I didn't get to see him much at SEMA, as we know, because he was always so busy running the booth.

So it was nice to catch up a little bit and see our friend, you know?

And what an impressive facility.

The showroom's amazing.

Aftermarket garage is super well-equipped.

Dino and then.

Yeah. I mean, their Dino systems alone are so advanced.

You know, they do all the emission testing and all the product testing there.

You can bring something over there, almost like SEMA garage.

You could bring something over there and fully test it for emissions.

And just the way he explains how the density of the cats work and the ceramics.

And they do all their own ceramic work there and cat production.

And it's really impressive.

And just how they prioritize all the different divisions and how shipping works

and how they stock for automotive companies.

And I mean, it's really, really, really efficient.

And just the way the steps work and inventory.

Like they measure and calculate the steps to be the most efficient.

They put stuff on the rack that sells the highest so they don't have to walk as far.

I mean, it's absolutely amazing.

Just the shipping facility.

So every box that gets shipped out of the mountain flows facility,

like if you buy an aftermarket exhaust system or something like that.

So if you're that guy that calls them up and he go,

I got this exhaust and I'm missing this bolt or I don't have a clamp.

They go, what's the number?

And they look it up and every box is on a very, very sensitive scale as it's being shipped out.

And it can trigger by going, maybe there was an extra bolt or maybe there was a bolt missing.

It would flag that box.

That's how they insure that pretty much all of the pieces are always in there.

And they're usually like, we'll go ahead and send you that bolt.

You have the bolt, you lost the bolt.

Why don't you check under your left rear tire?

But we'll go ahead and send you one anyway, because our system has confirmed that it was there.

Listen, maybe somewhere it snuck out of the box between when it got onto the FedEx truck.

Then it got to your door, which, you know.

I have that same system here when we ship a set of wheels with lug nuts.

And somebody calls and says, Hey man, I only got 19 lug nuts, not 20.

You know, I go, hold on.

Let me check my system.

Hey, Rick, how many lug nuts did you ship?

No, Rick says all 20 were in there, man, that he can't.

But we're going to send you one anyway.

We're going to send you one anyway.

Well, that place is so advanced that even when you check in, you know, you do,

you do a full face scan and register.

And I'm surprised I don't weigh you to see if you weigh a little more when you leave.

You're right.

Do you have lug nuts in your pocket?

Yes, exactly.

You know, I see you brought a titanium lug nut.

Our camera show, you did not eat while you were here.

So you must have lug nuts in your pocket or exhaust pieces in your tailpipe.

Step on the scale.

I think we've got to take a quick break.

You think so?

Yeah, why don't we do that?

Okay, we'll take one right now.

Break!

Oh, we're back.

We're back from our break.

Okay, the silent treatment.

That was the longest break ever.

But that was because Matt had to run down the hall and, you know, do a few things.

Oh, no, because that was Thanksgiving break.

Yeah, I had to jump out for a minute prior to.

Sorry about that, everybody.

I had some people are coming in.

I don't know what it is, holiday week or something.

Had two young ladies come to the door that they were trying to sell me.

Mormons?

They were Mormons?

No, it was Amazon.

Oh, we'd like to sign you up for a business account.

Do you know that we, I mean, you talk about, you know, they go,

we see you buy a lot of shipping tape and we could save you a dollar,

you know, a package on that, you know, that alone.

And I'm like, how much does it cost to be a business account?

They go, nothing.

You just got to sign up for it.

And I'm like, wow, really?

I said, I don't have time right now.

I'm in the middle of doing the show.

Yeah, middle of recording podcast.

Um, this is an interesting story.

I don't know if you guys heard of this,

but the FBI has seized a 2002 Mercedes Benz CLK GTR Roadster.

Oh, I thought you were going to talk about when they came to my house.

Okay, good.

They seized Bond Speed Wheels.

So that was a GBI.

Maybe it was like two years ago or so up at Monterey.

We saw one of these up at Gooding.

It's just like, it's such a cool.

It's basically a race car that they converted to street.

But what's so weird about it is when you look at it from the front,

it looks like they just took one of their cars

and kind of flattened it a little bit.

You know, it's really intense.

Yeah.

I once sold a couple of years ago, I think for 10 million.

That's probably the one we saw.

I believe it was at Gooding.

Wow.

So the FBI has seized this thing.

They're estimating it's about $13 million.

I wouldn't deny that.

It looks like it's nice.

It's pretty good shape.

You know, there's no reason.

But it belonged to this guy, Ryan Wedding.

Why the Ryan?

W-E-D-D-I-N-G.

Ryan was a Canadian.

A very bad boy.

Snowboarder, I guess.

He was on the 2002.

He was a snowboarder.

Yeah.

He was a skier.

I'm sorry.

He was a skier in the parallel giant slalom.

He was still in the snow, Aaron.

Right.

He was not very good.

So he was in the 2002 Olympics.

He was.

Wait a minute.

If he made it to the Olympics,

don't be saying he wasn't pretty good,

because just to make it to the Olympic team.

I think what he was chasing after was the quote-unquote snow.

So he was on the Olympic team, finished 24th,

and then six years later in 2008,

he was arrested for buying cocaine

from an undercover FBI team.

And he got a 48-month sentence.

He was released from jail.

And apparently he was, I don't know,

he just saw the light or went to jail and got schooled.

You know, the jailhouse education system.

Yeah, jailhouse school.

Because he didn't come out rehabilitated.

He came out and ended up becoming

the largest coke dealer in all of Canada.

He was taken semi-trucks from Mexico

to a staging area in Southern California

and then on its way up to Mexico.

And he is.

He was relocating snow.

What do you mean?

He was.

He says the attorney general has said

he's responsible for importing 60 metric tons of cocaine.

That's a lot.

Each year.

Each year?

In Los Angeles.

Yeah.

To Los Angeles, yeah, clearly.

He was bringing in 60 tons a year.

And he.

That car was nothing for him then.

He's still on the lam.

He had this car.

I guess he didn't have it with him

because he's presumably on the run someplace

hiding out in Mexico.

He's wanted for murder, witness tampering intimidation,

money laundering, and drug trafficking.

He's on the FBI's most wanted list.

Wow.

And he's still out.

He's there.

But he is not driving his Mercedes.

I wonder what other cars he had in his collection

because this guy obviously was making the kind of money

where it's like, what do we do with it now?

We got too much, you know?

I mean.

I want to Google how much 60 metric tons of cocaine is worth,

but I don't want that to be in my first history.

Well, Google him first and Google the cocaine.

I got to be honest with you.

I don't even know how much an ounce is worth.

So I had no idea.

You know, I couldn't even extrapolate it.

But aren't they on the metric system?

Can't done.

So it wouldn't be.

That's why it's 60 metric tons.

Yeah.

How many kilos would that be?

Oh, Matt's looking something up.

I'm doing it.

Or he froze.

I don't know.

60 metric tons, according to Google's AI,

is worth between $4.8 and $15.6 billion a year.

How very unsportsman of him.

Kilos are $13,000 to $26,000 per kilo.

That's a lot.

Yeah.

Billy just sent me that.

Oh, there it is.

Oh, that's funny.

Wait, hold on.

I can't see that.

What was that?

Oh, yeah.

You can't see it?

Oh, yeah.

I see it.

Yeah.

Great.

Billy Gibbons got jokes.

He's got funny turkeys that he just sent me.

I mean, that's like, but you know, we're looking at the gross.

I mean, we ought to think of what his margins actually were

because he had overhead.

You know, I mean, come on.

Well, I mean, typical industry is the manufacturer,

in this case, gets about 30%.

The distributor gets 30%.

And the retailer takes their 30, 30 plus percent.

So, you know.

And the government takes the other?

Well, there's no taxes, right?

Yeah, there's no taxes.

There's no government costs, no importation duties.

Well, that's not true.

There's probably some guys at the border that do take some importation duties.

Well, I'm just saying if, you know, if it's between five and 15 billion,

let's call it, you know, nine, 10, it's three and a half,

three and a half billion a year on your end.

If he was making that kind of money, I will tell you this.

He's not in Mexico.

He went to Mexico, caught a private jet.

And he's in some Eastern Bloc country or somewhere in Europe or something like that.

And he'll live very, very well.

On his island, which is, which is the one you see on YouTube that goes,

there's an invisible island here.

Right.

He's, he's a, he's in Switzerland right now getting a plastic surgery.

And I think I'll press change.

And I assume it all has to be.

Well, he probably has it all in a Swiss bank account.

So it's, you know, they're waiting out front to see if he shows up.

I mean, I guess these days he could be like taking the cash and buying crypto.

Yes.

You know, I was looking, do you ever look through your old posts, like your history of your posts,

you know, not, not the stories, but your, but your posts.

And I was looking through one and I, there was one back from way back when, and I,

and I showed a chart of crypto going up and I, and I had just bought some.

And I said, and I think we talked about it on the show.

And I said, and I said, you're going to wish you bought this when you see this in the future.

And it was at, it was at 32,000, a Bitcoin.

And I was like, even it's gone down lightly.

And that's still a huge profit.

Yeah, it's like 150,000 now.

I was very prophetic.

I am, I'm very curious about how that world works.

So any of our listeners, if you are a successful drug kingpin, please just let me know.

I'm just curious to know, like, what are you doing with your cash?

Is it crypto these days?

What's his name?

Who's name?

The guy that was guy.

Hold on, let me see if I can find his name again.

His name is, it was something wedding, right?

Is it what Ryan?

Yeah, it was something wedding.

Well, Ryan, if you're listening, you know, because we,

Ryan wedding around the world, you know, get ahold of us.

Let us know.

How's it work?

I'm just saying, just just sliding to our DMs.

I'm just curious where the cash is going.

Is it still a cash business and stuff?

Because you can use one of those voice things.

Do the show.

Why are they always like that whenever they cloak their voice?

Why doesn't it ever sound like a 12 year old girl?

Hi. Well, I was down in Canada.

Because it speeds up their inflections.

You can still tell.

I remember like interviews were like all over, you know,

like hard copy or something.

Like things on the news, like the news magazines,

like I was in the shadow using that voice.

And, and it seems like you didn't need to do that at all.

I just think they did that more for the effect on TV.

They fear for the life.

Some producer was like, we're going to blur you out and

change the pitch of your voice.

So no one will know it's you.

And they're like, I don't care if they know it's me.

Like, I know, but it's better TV if they, if people think.

You know what?

You just gave me a great idea for Halloween next year.

I'm just going to wear all black.

And like one of those thin nylon, you know,

stocking socks.

Head sock.

And then have one of those things on my throat.

And I'm just going to go, hi, I'm under cover.

I don't want to be revealed.

It could be a camera person with a microphone.

Just going to wear a mask and a mortal mask.

You've seen those masks.

They have like old people.

Yeah.

Old people and just talk with, talk with a slurred accent.

List a lot.

Have you seen those ones online that are really scary?

They're, I mean, they're, they're real.

We're, they're really thin, but they have a silk screened face on them.

Yes.

Pull the hoodie up.

Yeah.

In the hood.

You look like a totally different person.

I gotta say that, that's the guy that makes those.

And it's really impressive.

Those are like.

I use those for my bank robberies.

Yeah.

But why not?

I mean, that's better than there was a guy in here and he had,

you know, this pulled over his head with, you know, holes for the eyes

because they'd go, yeah, it was a.

It was called cruising a hoodie.

Yeah.

Exactly.

You know, or it was, it was a, a female and big hands, but you know.

So it's obvious, like if you, if you, if you get like the mask and you, like,

you are a thief of some sort and you get like the Tom Cruise version, people will,

it's Tom Cruise and then clearly it's not Tom Cruise.

That's the giveaway that it was a fake mask.

So now they're looking for somebody else, but if you had a Brad Fanshawe.

Oh, don't do that.

Now you're going to give some idea.

And then people will be like, who's this guy?

I swear I've seen him before.

Maybe he's been on TV to do the podcast.

Who's the actor, though, that they just, he just did a thing where he goes,

I'm not homeless.

He's the guy that had that lawsuit where he, he hit on some guy in a bar.

Very famous.

Kevin Spacey.

Kevin Spacey said he was homeless.

Yeah.

See, that'd be the perfect one because people go, well, I heard he was homeless.

You know, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, Robin Bay.

There was, there was one a while ago where somebody, if I remember it correctly,

it's like somebody robbed a convenience store or like jacked somebody at an ATM.

And it looked exactly like David Schwimmer from Friends.

So he did a video and he was like, this is not me.

Hey guys.

This is like, yeah, he's like, I was like literally like out of town when this happened.

And I was like, this is a different part of the world.

And he kind of made it funny.

But yeah, it really wasn't me.

This is not me.

Oh my gosh.

I'm going to have a Matt D'Andrea one made, you know?

I mean, it's yeah, it's going to be, you know, because I do an Aaron Hagar one,

but I can't replicate the laugh and they would know right away.

It wasn't him.

Well, they would go after Joey Fatone, wouldn't they?

Yeah, there you go.

Hey, you know what?

I don't know where we got off track, but let's try and pull it back into the lane of automotive.

Somehow all that reminded me.

On the way back, I stopped it in Monterey.

And you robbed a bank.

And went to Laguna Seca.

And no, and saw those Mark IV GT, or yeah, four GTs there with that company that makes the GTD.

They were so cool.

Actually, I get to follow up with my conversation with you guys asking if he knew anybody.

I ran into my buddy Ali there and he said, Aaron, and I went, oh my gosh,

and he helps run the velocity event.

And yeah, he was like, dude, I got to introduce you.

So he introduced us to one of the drivers and we didn't have time.

I didn't go because I really didn't have time.

But I said, take Kevin.

And so he took Kevin out.

I think they did three or four laps in one of those things.

And they were pulling like one, I think they were in the teens, like 118, like one,

I mean, they were, they were fast, like near track record fast.

And he's just a dude.

He's just an awesome guy.

You know, I don't think he's a pro race driver.

He was just, you know, he was part of the program.

But what a cool program they have for drivers.

They have X amount of cars.

You can buy them and they're fully supported by the company.

And you get your car out there and they put you on a track day, basically.

Rent the whole place.

It's just you guys.

I think there was four or five cars.

That's it.

And it's like 30 grand.

It's 30 something thousand for the whole shebang.

You know, I think you pay for tires and fuel.

But on top of that, but full service.

Because I guess you can't run those cars without a crew.

Like it takes a crew.

Well, it's really when you think about it, it sounds like a lot of money.

But if you've got the money, it's the smartest way to go because you show up.

You spend more time driving than you do worrying about all the other crap.

And then you leave, you know.

Yeah.

If they do a nice event, like when we went to Ferrari Challenge,

there's a group that like the XX cars, right?

If you have the XX or something, you just, you know, you pay money and you take it to a

different place.

But you don't get to keep your car.

Yeah.

With the XX, they bring your car out.

You don't get to keep your car.

I think in this program, you get to keep your car, you know.

So yeah, they probably still bring it out for you.

Exactly.

And you get nice hospitality, you know, like they put on a nice event.

And they do five or six a year.

At the Ferrari events, they have like a nice little eating area where they try to send you,

sell you a Hublot watch.

And another couple of cars.

You know, we did not even talk about the F1 event in Las Vegas.

Oh my gosh.

Which was exciting to watch just because of how much water was on the trail.

I mean, seeing those cars go by and qualifying and throwing up a 10 foot tall rooster tail, man.

More than that, probably 25 foot tall rooster tail.

It was awesome.

I mean, that was very strange in watching it.

It was exciting.

The race was exciting to watch because of the conditions.

But what do you guys think?

I've heard a lot of, or not heard, seen online.

A lot of people saying, ho hum, okay, for our F1s back in Vegas.

It's like people are already jaded by it.

Like it's, you know, okay, yeah, it's been here before.

We've seen it.

Now, they're also doing some spectacular events there.

I mean, some of the companies that are doing, you know, their after events and parties and

American Express is doing a phenomenal job with their $15,000 a person.

I looked into that and actually $15,000 for what you get is not too bad compared to other

tickets that they're selling there.

And their platinum and black guard area was pretty impressive and unlimited drinks, food,

hospitality, all kinds.

And where theirs was located was phenomenal.

You look over the edge and you're right over the pits.

It's those fees while you're watching the race.

Not like an after party.

No, no, this was for watching.

Very graceful.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that actually, considerably from what I've heard, that is a good value.

Graham Rahall is trolling F1 on X and I like Graham a lot.

He's a good friend of the show.

He's been involved in films and stuff we've done in the past.

He and I talk every once in a while.

But he was just like, F1 is the motorsports event for when you want to be seen.

But if you want to see some good racing, he goes, they should bring IndyCar out there.

More action on the actual course, more position changes and things happening.

And he goes, and he was trolling F1 going, F1, you should bring IndyCar out there.

Maybe do it as like the pre-event.

Let IndyCar guys run that course in front of that crowd.

And then you guys do your F1 race.

And that's a cool idea.

That'll never happen.

F1 is too arrogant to do that.

But that's a cool idea.

But the activation at F1 is, I mean, nobody can beat it.

And it doesn't matter what race you're at.

The corporations and what they spend is just crazy.

It's crazy.

And the people that they get to participate.

Just now, Graham totally hit this out of the park.

Because Graham did a playful kind of troll on social media.

A bunch of people like us are now even talking about it.

And making IndyCar part of the conversation.

And there's media outlets and stuff as well.

So Graham made IndyCar part of the conversation.

Good for him.

It's exactly what you should be doing.

Yeah, exactly.

And you know, with all the weird connections and unions that are going on right now,

Brad, you were just talking about one before the show for stock car. I mean, why not? I mean, heck,

you know, I mean, you know, musicians do it. It's like Coke and Pepsi, though. That's the problem.

Pepsi can exist. There's two sides of every fence.

What was Avis? Avis used to be we try harder because Hertz was number one and they try harder

because they're number two or something like that. But the finances don't make sense. It's like

Bravago and White Claw, right? Oh, okay. Pete. All right. I'm making it part of the conversation.

I get it. I get it. It's like bondspeachstreetwear.com, you know? I mean, go in there and find

for your holiday gifting. That's what it would be like. I don't know what that has to do with it.

Well, you would wear my apparel to the Formula One event. There you go. And if you didn't notice,

you probably call it, you probably noticed Jay-Z wearing one of my t-shirts at F1.

I did not notice. Oh, you didn't? No, I did not see that. Well, go back through and, you know,

maybe look for the hashtag. Okay. Jay-Pete loves bondspeachstreetwear.com.

It's the longest hashtag ever, but okay. You won't find it, but, you know. Yeah,

not a single post, according to the internet. Oh, wait a minute. I'm going to do it right

after the show. I'm going to put a whole bunch of them up. Brad's buddy Al.

Brad's buddy Al. Yeah. His name's Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. All right, guys. Okay. Real quick,

though. You brought it up, Aaron, so I got to just hit on it. IHRA stock car series. You've

known them as the drag racing, you know, body for many, many years. They've been making a lot

of headway and they just announced this week stock car series with a $2 million dollar national

purse, the largest ever. They're going to do cost control, excuse me, cost controlled racing,

meaning they're going to put some controls on it. So it's not about who has the deepest pockets,

but it's the best drivers. Multi-state schedule, and it's going to be starting out in 2026 in

Virginia, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Virginia, Indiana, Tennessee, and they're going

to be the opening cars at next year's Formula One, Las Vegas. Late amount of stock cars,

just to show. Oh, wait. And Bravago will be the title sponsor. Yes. And every one of the people

there, all the celebrities will be wearing Bond Speed Streetwear. So you believe all that,

then I've got a tofu-shaped turkey to sell you. It probably exists. And with that,

we round out the whole show. Good job. All right, guys. Hey, you have a great Thanksgiving.

I want our listeners to have a great Thanksgiving. And are you thankful for anything, Aaron?

Oh, I can't think of anything I'm not thankful for.

Matt, how about you? I said, now, Aaron nailed it. The list is long.

Yes. Thanks for you guys listening. I appreciate it. I'm thankful just to be on the show with you

guys and for a lot of other things. So everybody, we're thankful for you to be listening and we'll

be back next week. That's a promise, not a threat.

Toyota, let's go places.

Let's go places.

About this episode

The episode dives into the highlights from the LA Auto Show, featuring the new Scout SUV and pickup truck from Scout Motors, which will offer both battery electric and range-extender options. The hosts discuss the unique design elements, including a front bench seat and the vehicle's off-road capabilities. They also touch on the IHRA's new stock car series with a substantial purse and the recent F1 event in Las Vegas, sharing insights on the racing scene and the excitement surrounding it. Additionally, personal anecdotes about a BMW Z8 and a visit to Magnaflow add a fun touch.

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