The One-Year Garage: 1965
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emissions regulations
Emissions regulations are rules that cars must follow to limit how much pollution they produce. This helps keep the air cleaner.
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GTO
The GTO is a famous Ferrari model that was built for racing but also made street versions. It's known for being very fast and rare.
Car
Pontiac GTO
The Pontiac GTO is a classic American car that was built for speed and power. It became famous in the 1960s and is loved by car fans for its strong engine and sporty look.
Concept
Le Mans
Le Mans is a famous car race in France that lasts for 24 hours. Cars race around a track for a whole day, and it's known for being very challenging.
Car
Ferrari 250 LM
The Ferrari 250 LM is a famous car from the 1960s that was used in racing. It's known for its unique shape and powerful engine, making it very valuable and desirable among car enthusiasts.
Car
Ferrari 250
The Ferrari 250 GTO is a very famous and expensive sports car from the 1960s. It's loved for its beautiful design and speed, making it a dream car for many collectors.
Concept
Jim Clark
Jim Clark was a famous race car driver from Scotland. He won a lot of races in Formula One and is remembered as one of the best drivers ever.
Brand
Lotus
Lotus is a car brand from the UK that makes sports cars. They are known for making cars that are light and fast, and they have a long history in racing.
Car
Lotus Climax
The Lotus Climax is a type of race car made by Lotus that used engines from a company called Climax. These cars were important in racing during the 1950s and 1960s because they were light and powerful.
Term
1.5 liter
'1.5 liter' means the size of the engine. It's a way to measure how much space the engine's cylinders take up. Smaller engines are often used in racing to follow certain rules.
Term
V8
A V8 is a type of engine that has eight cylinders arranged in a V shape. This setup helps the engine produce a lot of power, which is why it's often used in fast cars.
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that started being made in the 1960s. The 1965 version is well-known for its stylish look and great driving experience.
Car
1965 Porsche 911 Coupe
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Term
steel wheels
Steel wheels are the heavy, sturdy wheels that are often found on cars. They are less expensive than other types of wheels and are good for winter driving.
Term
hubcaps
Hubcaps are the round covers that go over the center part of a wheel. They make the wheels look nicer and can help keep them clean.
Term
horsepower
Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. The more horsepower a car has, the faster it can go and the quicker it can accelerate.
Car
Porsche 356
The Porsche 356 was the first car made by Porsche and is known for being light and sporty. It has a classic design that many people still admire today.
Term
SC cabs and coupes
SC cabs and coupes are types of Porsche 911 cars. The SC stands for a specific model that was made in the late 1970s and early 1980s, and they come in two styles: a hardtop and a convertible.
Car
1965 Shelby Mustang GT350
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Ford Mustang
The Shelby Mustang GT350 is a special version of the Ford Mustang that is designed for high performance and racing. It's famous for being fast and powerful, making it a favorite among car enthusiasts.
Car
Modified 1985 Ferrari 308 GTB
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Ferrari 308
The Ferrari 308 is a sports car made by Ferrari. It has a unique look and is famous for being fast and fun to drive.
Car
Mazda Rx7
The Mazda RX-7 is a sports car that uses a unique rotary engine, which makes it different from most cars. It's known for being light and fun to drive.
Car
GTA
The Alfa Romeo GTA is a special, sportier version of a car called the Giulia. It's designed to be lighter and faster, making it great for racing and performance driving.
Car
Shelby
Shelby is a brand that makes fast and powerful versions of Ford cars, especially the Mustang. They are known for their speed and racing heritage.
Term
street spec
Street spec means the car is designed to be driven on regular roads, but it still has some sporty features that make it fun to drive.
Term
race spec
Race spec means the car is built for racing, which usually makes it faster but less comfortable for everyday driving.
Term
six-figure numbers
When someone says 'six-figure numbers,' they mean the price is very high, starting at $100,000. This is common for rare or classic cars.
Car
Porsche
Porsche is a famous car brand that makes fast and stylish sports cars, like the 911, which is very popular among car enthusiasts.
Car
GTV
GTV is a sporty car made by Alfa Romeo, known for being fun to drive and having a stylish look.
Car
3.0L Busso V6-Powered 1972 Alfa Romeo Spider-R by Alfaholics
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Ford Ranchero
The Ford Falcon Ranchero is a mix between a car and a truck, known as a 'car-pickup'. It was made in the 1960s and is valued for its unique design and practicality.
Car
1965 Ford Falcon Ranchero Deluxe 289
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Car
Ford Falcon
The Ford Falcon is a car that was made for many years and is known for being reliable and affordable. It comes in different styles, including a version that looks like a truck, making it popular for various uses.
Car
Volkswagen Type 2
The Volkswagen Type 2 is a famous vehicle that looks like a bus or van. The single cab pickup version has a flatbed that can be used for carrying things, which is why it's loved by many people.
Car
6.0L-Powered 1965 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ45LV
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Toyota Land Cruiser
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a tough SUV that can handle rough roads and off-road adventures. The FJ45 LV is a specific type of this vehicle that has a longer body and is designed for more space and comfort.
Car
Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser
The Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser is a big family car from the 1960s and 70s that has a lot of space inside. It's known for its unique look and is a favorite among people who love classic cars.
Car
1965 Buick Sport Wagon
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413-Powered 1960 DeSoto Fireflite Hardtop
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Car
Aston Martin DB5
The Aston Martin DB5 is a stylish and expensive car that was popular in the 1960s, especially known for being in James Bond movies. It's a classic car that many people admire.
Car
Ferrari 456 Ferrari
The Ferrari 456 M GT is a fancy sports car that can fit four people. It's known for being powerful and comfortable, making it great for long drives.
Car
1967 Mercedes Benz Universal Wagon Project
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Mercedes Fintail
The Mercedes Fintail is a vintage car from 1965 that has a unique design with tail fins. It was made in different versions, including a station wagon.
Car
1967 Mercedes Benz 230S Fintail Rally Car
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1965 Jaguar XKE Series I 4.2 Coupe
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Jaguar XKE 4.2 liter coupe
The Jaguar XKE is a classic sports car from the 1960s, famous for its beautiful looks and fast performance. The '4.2 liter' means it has a 4.2-liter engine, which is a type of engine that helps it go fast.
Car
Jaguar Etype
The Jaguar E-Type is a stylish sports car from the 1960s that many people think looks amazing. It's known for being fast and fun to drive, making it a classic favorite.
Car
1964 Shelby Cobra 289 Mark II
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Shelby Cobra
The Shelby Cobra is a fast sports car that is known for its powerful engine and sleek design. It's a favorite among car lovers because of how exciting it is to drive.
Car
Subaru 360S
The Subaru 360 is a tiny car that was made to be very efficient and easy to drive. It's small enough to fit in tight spaces, making it great for city driving.
Car
Sounds Good: 1965 Honda RA272 V12
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Honda RA272
The Honda RA272 is a race car from Honda that participated in Formula 1. It had a powerful V12 engine and is considered an important part of racing history.
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Alfa Romeo Giulia
The Alfa Romeo Giulia is a stylish car that is fun to drive and has a sporty feel. It's known for its good looks and performance, making it a favorite among car fans.
Car
Porsche 904
The Porsche 904 is a classic sports car that is known for being very light and fast. It was built for racing and has a unique shape that helps it go quickly.
Car
Toyota Prius
The Toyota Prius is a car that uses both gas and electricity to help save on fuel. It's known for being very good for the environment and is popular among people who want to reduce their carbon footprint.
Car
Ford GT40
The Ford GT40 is a famous race car that was built to win big races in the 1960s. It's known for being very fast and has a cool design that many people admire.
Car
Jaguar Mark I
The Jaguar Mark I is a stylish car from the 1950s that is known for being luxurious and comfortable. It's one of the earlier models from Jaguar and is appreciated for its classic design.
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Chrysler Daytona
The Chrysler Daytona is a sporty car from the 1980s that has a unique look and is known for being fun to drive. It has a powerful engine that makes it exciting on the road.
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Alpine A110
The Alpine A110 is a small, sporty car that's known for being really fun to drive. It has a cool design and is built for speed and agility, making it popular among car enthusiasts.
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Ferrari 275
The Ferrari 275 GTB is a beautiful sports car from the 1960s that is loved for its powerful engine and stylish look. It's a dream car for many people who admire classic cars.
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Mercedes-Benz 356 Sc
Mercedes-Benz is a well-known brand that makes fancy cars. They are known for being very comfortable and packed with the latest technology.
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Chevrolet El Caminos
The Chevrolet El Camino is a car that has a truck bed in the back, making it useful for carrying things. It's a classic American vehicle that many people find interesting.
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Bentley Flying Spur
The Bentley Flying Spur is a very fancy car that is known for being super comfortable and stylish. It's a luxury vehicle that many people dream of owning.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Bring a Trailer podcast. My name is Alex Porter.
I am coming to you from Bring a Trailer headquarters in San Francisco from our little podcast studio
upstairs, joined once again by Randy, our co-founder. Hey, Randy.
Hey, good to be here.
And by back, back is our white glove department manager. How are you, buddy?
I'm good, Alex. How are you doing?
I'm doing good. I'm especially excited today because we're going to do one of our pretty,
maybe our most popular segment, our one-year garages. We're going to do a killer year, 1965,
today. Shout out to Sue, who I met at Maka Nisima, who requested this. So she's a listener,
and we appreciate her. Who's Sue?
Sue used to run the Cal Melee with Howard Davis. She's great. You've probably met her before.
Yes, I've interacted. I don't know if we've ever met.
Okay. She's wonderful, big fan. And how could I deny 1965?
It feels like the elephant in the room that we've not done this yet.
It's totally.
My dad says, 67 is the best year of all time for cars.
Well, that was our first one.
You remember that?
65 is really good.
It's really good.
I'm sitting here making a mental list, and it's, I don't know, even where to go.
Yes, I prepped for it.
It's like a galaxy of options.
Yeah, I'd say it might be one of the options.
Oh, come on, dad.
As I said that a lot, I kind of stumbled because I had that same...
Well, I've got a few facts about the year. We don't have to talk about where we were
in 1965, because all of us...
No place.
No, yeah. We were not even a thought yet.
We need to vamp for Randy a little bit, because even though he was prepped for this pod,
he's actually doing his prep right now.
No.
Well, in real time...
I always pick... You were my choices during the recording.
You were born ready for this one.
I don't do advanced prep on this.
No, I love it.
Let's go. And everybody knows it. That's why I didn't lose.
The most exciting races are the ones you'll have.
Mistakes are made. Mistakes are made by me.
But anyway, I'm going to pick something good. Keep going.
So, 1965, the year.
Some dark stuff, Vietnam escalation, Malcolm X assassination, but first space...
I know, tough.
First spacewalk, Cosmonaut, Leonoth.
That was a pretty exciting one, exciting stuff in space.
A really great year for vehicles in pop culture.
So, the number one movie was Sound of Music.
Number one album was Sound of Music Soundtrack.
Strong.
But number three movie of the year, Thunderball, Sean Connery.
Maybe my favorite, Sean Connery Bond.
Really?
Very good.
It's a good year for vehicles because Thunderball is when they steal the Avro Vulcan and steal the
missiles, right? They crash it into the water, the strategic bomber.
Number four movie, those magnificent men and their flying machines.
Have you ever seen that one, Beck?
This is one where the plane crashes and you need to build it back up.
It's a cross channel race in about 1910.
It's based on a real race.
Oh, it's a really funny, kind of madcap, 60s movie.
And the fifth highest movie of the year is Great Race.
So, airplane races, car races, and Thunderball are all in the top five.
It's the peak for basically motor sport of all types.
100%.
We only have a few more years until the separation of the street car and the race car.
Like, we're nearing that.
We're at the end of you drive a car to Le Mans and win it.
And 68 is the first year of regulations on street cars as far as headlamps and tail lamps
and emissions and that sort of stuff.
100%.
We're right near in the end.
Harry's Garage just did a piece, I don't know if you guys saw this, on the Series 2
GTO. He drives one around a little bit.
And I was hoping I could pick that because that's kind of a weird car, but that's actually
64. And that's really kind of the end.
That's like prototype for the street almost in 64.
Crucially, I think 65 there isn't.
They raced the GTO at Le Mans, but it's like basically a carrier.
It's not as, yeah, it's a 64 still.
Bev Spencer. Bev Spencer downstairs on the poster in HQ.
Total.
That's like 65.
That car came through.
That car was either converted to the Type 2 or whatever.
Anyway, the weird notch back for our GTO was in San Francisco, California in period
and may have even raced at Candlestick or something crazy.
Oh, wow, that's interesting.
Before all that stuff.
I only just found that out watching Harry's garage that most of those Series 2 cars are
actually Series 1s that were re-bodied.
Sure, that were re-bodied.
Yeah, right.
I don't like those at all.
They're not as good looking.
I don't like them.
But it's an interesting car.
I love a Ferrari 250 LM, but I don't love a Series 2 GTO.
Well, he was pointing out how LM styling is kind of used on that Series 2.
It's got that weird little like flat back window.
Yeah, yeah, totally in the big Camtel.
And actually speaking of the devil, 65 Le Mans winner is the last Ferrari until very
recently to win Le Mans.
That's the Mastin Gregory Yakin Rint 250 LM, correct, which we saw.
It's a car we've seen down in the basement at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum.
Formula 1 champion, you know who it was?
In 65.
Yeah, could you do this off the top of your head?
I had to look it up.
Clark.
Jim Clark.
Yep.
Right.
Lotus.
Is that is Indianapolis year?
I forget anyway.
Everybody in the audience will correct us because we're crossing all the streams,
but I just got Jim Clark.
You got it.
Lotus Climax.
That little is still 1.5 liter formula, so little tiny Climax V8, 1.5 liter.
I know what you're going to pick for some of these categories.
I know, and I know what you're going to pick too.
So, oh, you know what I didn't do?
As I didn't prep a little thing, so I'm going to do this live.
Beck, anything else you want to say about 75?
Well, I get our order going.
65.
How about 65?
Do we want to do 75 instead?
Just kidding.
Anything else you want to say, bud?
For 65.
A lot of firsts, like a lot of new cars actually coming out in 65.
Such as?
Well, I mean, we're going to get to it.
Oh, you're not going to share.
I don't want to.
You're just teasing.
I'm just teasing, but there's a lot of things that started in 65.
I don't think they'll be influencing what we have here.
Okay.
Quick reminder for the audience, for those who have not heard one of these or forget
the rules, basically what we're going to do is pick a garage of five cars.
Each of us are going to pick five cars from five different categories.
A sports car, a truck four by four, a family hauler, a daily driver, and a wild card.
We're going to go round Robin style and there's no overlap.
So order matters.
I've torn three little pieces of paper here.
Beck, you ready to pick?
Here we go.
All right.
Go ahead.
First is, oh, that's like a rare.
There you go.
Oh, Randy's going number three.
That sounds about right.
I get the dregs.
It's fine.
There's so much depth.
It actually doesn't matter.
So much depth that I don't think it really matters, although maybe for Beck a little bit,
because I know what I want for number one, because I think it's going to,
it might be slightly contentious.
So that means I get to start, pick the first category.
And I'm going to start with, oh man, this actually is kind of tricky where to start.
There's things I need to steal from you, Beck in particular.
But Randy too, there's going to be some Randy Alex competition.
I'm going to start with sports car.
You know where I'm going probably already.
I am going to choose a 65, 9-11.
That was so easy.
That was so easy.
I have one in specific in mind, which I'm curious.
Okay.
This is a lot.
70,386.
It was a yellow 65, 9-11 in Germany.
Do you remember that car, Randy?
Of course, I remember this car.
You have it up on your screen.
Beck had it up on his screen.
Exact same car.
Yes.
Sorry, man.
You don't get it.
Alex gets it.
I mean, that could be a daily driver.
That could be a lot of things.
Correct.
It's the color of this legal pad that we're writing on.
It's called champagne yellow.
Why that one?
Tell me why that one?
I got a million others in my mind.
Okay.
65 in general is probably my favorite 9-11.
It's just the plain 9-11.
No letter after 9-11, just simple original design.
I actually really like steel wheels and hubcaps on them.
It's just the simple 130-horse motor, the original design.
That color has a little 356 vibe to it still.
You know what I mean?
It's kind of a 50s sort of vibe to it.
Yes, totally.
And those early cars still have the low back seats.
The skinny steel wheels have still some 356 vibes to them.
I like transitional technology.
So I like those aspects of it.
That car had really good photos.
They were still making 356s in 65.
Correct.
And somehow alongside this, I would love to know what the
factory parking lot logistics were like.
I'm pumping out these six cylinder cars and they're pumping out
the last of the SC cabs and coupes and that sort of stuff.
Using the same paint buckets to go at either of them.
Totally.
Champagne yellow.
So anyway, pretty cool car.
My favorite part of those earliest 9-11s is the little italicized 9-11 script
on an angle.
Oh, it's so good.
Right?
It says Porsche across the bottom of the decklet and then it says 9-11.
Only two years of that.
And the dash says it in kind of a funny way too, right?
That and then people talk about the green fonts on the gauges, which are cool.
Another kind of 356 vibe thing, right?
The seats are super like flat and boring, right?
In a 65, 9-11, there's nothing there.
You just kind of slide around.
Anyway, I think those cars are really neat.
I'd love to have one of those.
Yeah, Beck wanted one.
But there's, you know what?
There's lots of good options.
I don't mean wanted for the list.
I mean, like want in hand, like parked outside right now.
I would like to have one of those.
Okay, great.
I've got a specific lot number, which I love.
I love it when I can do that, when it's a specific car.
I always try to do that.
Yes, totally.
All right, Beck, you're up.
Now, what I'd be splitting hairs by doing a 9-01.
Come on, dude, what are you talking about?
That's like the same thing.
Same car, just different names.
Sorry, dude.
All right, so I'm going with my second choice,
but still I think of a very strong choice.
Also a specific lot number.
Lot number 3-5-5-6-5.
So pretty early on, it is a Shelby Mustang GT350,
specifically offered by Greg Blue.
You got the Hawaii car.
The Hawaii car.
I remember that one.
That was maybe our first 65, or one of our first.
Yeah, our first 65 was an early one.
In that last time around.
Why you didn't look like, fire us up here a little bit.
Look at this thing.
Fantastic driving video.
Oh, really?
Of him barefoot driving up the mountain.
Oh, not flippy floppies?
In 2020.
In 2020.
Amazing.
And what was he doing?
Just cruising around Hawaii?
Yeah, he's got a-
COVID had not gotten to the aisles yet,
and he's just ripping around,
or maybe this is his bug out machine.
We moved through a few cars, and he recorded.
We didn't have a reliable photographer in Hawaii at the time,
and so he actually provided his own photos with my coaching.
And then he recorded a driving video of him,
and yeah, his flip-flops going uphill,
up the mountain in Hawaii,
which I would highly recommend.
Revisiting.
Yes, for sure.
It's a phenomenal job.
I don't remember that video.
I love Greg Blue's flippy floppy videos.
They're all good.
He had a 308 race car that he drove,
and flip-flops up a mountain in Hawaii.
Cruising around in Hawaii.
It's my dream life, man.
It's so good.
His RX-7 group B car.
Also amazingly cool.
All right, Randy.
Strong.
What category is this?
What are we calling this category?
Sports.
Okay.
Step nose GTA.
Any color.
I prefer left-hand drive.
They made a lot in right-hand drive as well.
Any color.
White, red, green.
They're all like red, though, right?
Do they all start red?
I don't know.
Anyway, that's a fabulous car,
and I'd put it up against either of yours any day,
any situation.
I love my big Shelby guy.
I love Shelby's.
But real step nose with aluminum panels
and a real story is...
You want street spec, though, kind of, right?
I like kind of blend of street race spec.
Like a slow race car is what I'd like, right?
Like a race car with carpets in it.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I rode in one last weekend.
Oh, red GTA.
Robbie's car.
Shout out, Robbie.
And that car's seen some travels around the globe, hasn't it?
It has.
The biting grease?
Yeah, it came out of grease,
but it was in San Francisco forever.
The guy had a short wheelbase 250 also.
That's right.
It has these great old historic stickers on it.
But we're downtown LA.
It's warm.
I stick my hand out the window,
and I grab the drip rail,
and you can feel all the rivets of the drip rail.
That's a deep cut.
It's sick.
That's a weird passenger driving in a GTA deep cut.
But pretty sick.
Very.
That was within 10 seconds of sitting in the car.
Very cool.
And he's got kind of a mix.
Same deal like Rollbar in the back and kind of a racy motor.
Man, those cars are cool.
It was getting a lot of love at Machinesima.
That's a great pick.
That's an incredible car.
That is an incredible car.
I still have never had a GTA.
I had a step nose once upon a time, but...
Do you ever think about wanting one back?
Yes.
Often.
The price has hiked on them since I had that one.
The blue ones were cheap.
The blue ones kind of famous, though.
People talk as you buy.
I think I got out of that car for $35.
Really, K?
Step noses have, but GTAs have come down.
Yeah.
Well, GTAs are all over the place.
It's six-figure numbers.
There's a lot of swing in those,
depending on what people are doing.
And there's a lot of fakes.
And there's a lot of weirdo race history and stuff.
But just a normal 65-alpha step nose is also a fabulous car.
But we're talking...
I got to go up against you and your Shelby
and you against your Porsches and stuff.
I got to pick a GTA.
But yeah, even just a normal 65.
Step nose parked outside.
Stock stock would be very happy with that car.
100%.
This is probably not something you would love, Randy,
but there was a...
At Machinissima, there was a GTV
with a Busso V6 wedged into it,
which was kind of interesting.
That's weird.
That's like, did you see the spider
that we just sold for massive cash
that had a Busso V6?
That was an Alphaholics car, right?
That was an Alphaholics build.
And they do the weird transversions.
We switched it around.
And weird choice.
Big motor to put it on.
What are we doing?
Yeah.
But it made it very custom
and somebody paid all the money for it.
Was it fantastic?
Yep.
That was a Veloce car,
but it was an actual Alphaholics build
that they swapped right-hand drive
to left-hand drive.
Anyway, that car was...
There was a lot of crazy in that build sheet.
Totally.
But our team did a good job describing it, I think.
And then you drive around looking
like you're just driving a normal car.
People are like, that cost like eight grand.
Totally.
Is it a graduate edition?
I loved it from a graduate.
That is like under the radar way to spend 200 grand.
For sure.
And then drive around and people think it's 10 grand.
That's amazing.
Man.
Well, I'm like really...
I think I blew my first pick opportunity
by picking that Porsche
because you guys both did amazing sports cars.
And I'm about to blow my next pick.
Hold on, I'm rusty.
Before you blow your next pick, I'm rusty.
Sports car.
Truck, 4x4.
Family hauler.
Family.
Often a wagon, but it doesn't have to be
or something weirdo like that.
A daily driver.
There's a lot of overlap in these, right?
And then a wild card.
There's less overlap the further back in time you go.
That's right.
Yes, because the daily driving ability,
we're sort of actually in the era
where there's a few cars
you really could be a sports car and a daily driver.
100%.
But it's just starting now.
I don't think that's the case 10 years prior.
The other thing that I always think about
with these is like does...
I've lost my train of thought.
Randy's hucking pens across the podcast studio.
I tend to think about myself in period for these,
like not today.
I don't know how...
Is that how you approach it, Beck?
I approach it definitely, yeah.
What would have been, for example,
if a car didn't say do well at Le Mans,
I'm less incentivized to have bought it then,
even though maybe later on it was more successful
or more interesting later on.
I try to think about where I would have been
as far as in 65.
What would have interested me?
What would I have been excited about?
I approach it probably pretty similar to you in that sense.
I like to think of myself in 1965
in an Eichler house down on the peninsula
and what would be in my actual driveway in that time,
which means I tend to not go for super modified cars
because a lot of that is ladder day modifications.
Sure.
I definitely try to not look at LS3 power trains
swapped into the previous chassis,
that sort of thing.
I want an in-period piece.
Yeah, we don't have firm rules around that,
but that's just how I tend to do it.
Okay, I'm going to go truck four by four next.
Let's go.
And I have another...
You might steal mine, I'm going to be very upset.
I'm pretty sure I'm not going to.
I have another specific lot number.
This car is actually live, but it's an alumni car,
so it was on before,
and I remember seeing it the first time around.
It is a 65 Falcon Ranchero.
Wow.
Red, red, 289 four speed with bucket seats.
It came that way stock.
This is a weird spec.
They say there's less than 1,000.
Is it a license plate on that thing?
It has blue plates on.
Blue California?
Yeah.
We should own this vehicle.
I mean, this car?
With AC.
We should probably own this dude's vehicle.
It's no reserve, what's the bid at?
10 Gs?
10.5, and it sold last time for 25.
And let's see, the first time around,
it was lot number 102,045.
So Falcon Ranchero, that's your call
for truck.
I love that call.
Well, that's, I mean, there's a lot of panels
similar to one of my cars on that car.
289 four speed.
Imagine that with like some trash cans,
some lawn equipment, lawn care equipment in the back.
So I love that.
I was just looking through pictures
because I want to put some new pictures
on the wall of BETHQ,
and I came across one of the road racing championship
at Laguna in 63,
and that safety vehicle is a Ranchero.
Wow.
Probably because it's one of the few
utility-ish sort of thing
that you could have like a hot little engine.
Totally.
To trip around,
and it has two flags out of the bed at 45 degrees,
like warning people.
It has some unit on top of the cab
and the backs full of all this equipment,
and they rounded out the rear fenders
to put torque thrusts on it,
and there's big SCCA badges on the doors.
Oh my God.
And I'm like, I just want that vehicle to like look at.
Give that exact vehicle totally.
But anyway, this one is all stock wire hub caps
and the whole deal,
but I've always thought these are cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just, again, same kind of thing,
like people will sometimes put hot rod GTI components
on the little VW Caddy pickup trucks.
Yeah, totally.
And same thing here.
Like, I think about your Falcon,
all the hot rod components
that you could put on the white,
although I love this with the little...
I actually kind of like leave it alone.
Totally.
I mean, the little narrow white walls
and hub caps and a four-speed 289
with the stock air cleaner on it,
the gold air cleaner on it.
I mean, some of it's just like don't touch a thing.
Bucket seats, red leather,
just I would have it exactly.
Because then you can pile people into it.
Oh, man, I love that.
This is like the Sport Ranchero.
It is a Sporty Ranchero.
That was probably hard to sell in the day, right?
Correct.
That one sat in the showroom way overpriced
for a really long time.
Man, look at this car.
Yeah.
Red, red, man.
I know.
You know my 64.
You've seen pictures of my 64.
Yeah, so I haven't seen the car.
I've seen the picture.
It's that same car.
But not with a truck bed.
But it can't haul gas cans around like that thing can.
Little 100 octane, 55-gallon drum.
Tire your slicks around that you're getting mounted.
Amazing.
Anyway.
That rolling stock.
I'm actually like maybe more excited
than I got this than the 911.
I love this car.
That's a really good choice.
Okay.
All right, back.
You got one ready?
I got one ready.
Mine is also going to be a specific lot number.
It is lot 153069.
Niner?
Niner.
My apologies.
Roger.
A 1965 Volkswagen Type 2 single cab pickup.
Oh, I like those a lot.
I love the drop down sidebars on these.
Yeah.
I like they're so usable in this green.
The bed sides.
You mean drop the bed sides and it's like a flat thing for working at a flower nursery or whatever you do.
But this is actually literally that.
This was a truck set up.
Oh, wow.
That was a guess.
Flower mart for going to like farmers market sort of thing.
But love the color.
Love the cover on the back bed.
And just the design spec of how usable these are.
I would adore driving one of these around as my pickup.
I could see you doing that bag.
Totally.
I could see you driving a little V-Dub around.
Man, they're slow.
Man, they're pokey.
Have you driven a Type 2 ever?
Never have.
Oh, man.
The motor that I have in the 912,
the main thing they built those fat motors for, those stroker type fours was to put in vans because
people are like, I need to move.
They use them for those tour buses that drive around the city because like seven people in a bus,
like you're not getting up a hill unless you have a big motor.
They go to those builds with like 993 motors as well.
Yes, correct.
They'll do just in order to get like two, three rows of people to tour them around San Francisco.
Correct.
There's a bunch of these things.
If you look them up, these sort of like flower power appearance style Type 2 buses that will
take you on a personalized tour around the city.
And those are pretty rad.
I would imagine.
Yeah, I've also heard that the gearing is set up like not well for getting up the hills of San
Francisco at all.
So you kind of have to take hills at speed if you want to make it up all the way.
Some buses, I'm not sure if it would be the case in 625.
The axles are geared.
Like there's a gearing out by the outboard by the wheels so that you can get like lower
grunt from that little tiny motor.
They knew even when they were stuck, they were underpowered.
Underpowered for sure.
Yes, for sure.
I love those.
I grew up in, you know, vanigans and Euro vans.
And so I love all these things.
Neither you nor Ibeck chose an actual 4x4.
So I'm confident Randy will fix that for us.
Yeah, I'm happy.
So two two-wheel drive vehicles is what you guys did.
Yes, that's right.
So nobody's going for 4x4.
Okay, that's fine.
I have two, man.
I'd like that you guys were debating for a while because I'm sitting here like looking at
I'm agonizing over one direction or another.
And I couldn't find an actual listing of one possibility.
So I'm going to go for, do you guys know what an FJ45 wagon is?
The four-door wagon.
I mean, this is right here.
So we have listed one and it's okay.
Yes.
So that one I've seen in person several times.
It's now in Sun Valley, Idaho, and I've seen it on the street.
This is lot 145712.
My buddy Alex knows actually built some of that car.
A few guys had their hands on that car to build it into that form that had FJ60 axles and
steering column and a bunch of interesting modifications.
But anyway, what I'm getting at is FJ45 LV, which is a wagon, a long wheelbase
Land Cruiser where the top does not come off sort of predecessor to the FJ55.
And it has this corrugated body on it and they were all rust out like crazy.
But a few guys have restored them and made them nice.
That one has a V8 in it.
It was pretty cool.
We sold it on the site in 24.
But also maybe earlier, was that an alumni?
That was an alumni car.
So we sold it earlier, I think as well.
Yep, sold it in 2020 and then again in May 2024.
Totally.
So anyway, those are very unusual, very cool.
Some people have restored ones.
I'd love to have one of those.
There's a couple floating around on the open market and guys want a ton of dough for them.
Icon has only built a couple of them.
You can count them on one hand.
And Colin Comer actually restored one of those front to back,
which was a difficult project.
So anyway, those are super cool.
They look like an FJ40 in the front, but then the cowl is blended in to what does it even
look like, like a Jeep product or something almost, right?
Like the way the side of the truck looks like, wow.
So anyway, I think those are super cool.
Four-wheel drive and mine would be V8 swapped, done.
That is an amazing car I didn't know about.
It's almost like transition between the 40 and the 55, right?
It's like somewhere like halfway in between.
It is weird.
They didn't, yeah.
I mean, they made long wheelbase ones where the top came off.
This was like a fixed top four-door SUV,
which you have to think about in 65 was kind of weird.
Totally.
Like Jeep was doing some stuff international.
So the other one I was thinking of runner up was like a travel all.
Travel all.
The early round light travel all, which is actually really cool.
I couldn't find a good one before you made me make this selection.
So anyway, that's what I'm going with 45 wagon.
I really like the color combo on that one.
The green and white was really good.
Are they all, did they sell them in the US?
A lot of them, they did.
And then a lot of them are two-tone.
I had a moment of clarity once where I said,
I'm only ever going to buy two-tone cars for the rest of my life.
I actually love that program because they're all interesting.
So anyway, but I've faded away from that
because some other things walked in the door,
but that's a cool two-tone.
All right.
Great choices all around.
I'm going to go to family hauler next.
And this is like becoming a theme for me,
but I'm going to choose another Vista Cruiser adjacent car.
I'm going to choose a Buick Sport wagon from 65,
which has the little extra windshield up top.
It's very square from 65.
We've only listed one ever.
They are square.
Yeah, it's like a Buick Wildcat.
Yes.
But they still have the little extra window up on top.
That's weird.
Isn't it a weird car?
But this one's got the great rally wheels on it
and everything.
Yes, totally.
I love Buicks.
I'm like, older I get.
Maybe this is like a standard progression.
That's normal.
You get into Buicks.
When you get involved in Buick or Olds,
you have to make a call.
That's right.
It's one direction.
I think you're about 10 years or 15 years early
for this decision, but you're getting there.
I know that's Alex's MO though.
I have all in a DeSoto that's live right now too.
Did you see that car?
Of course I saw that car.
That is an amazing car.
Final year DeSoto, 1960.
Which is the weirdest thing ever to say
when you pull up and people are like,
what kind of car is that?
And you say, I said DeSoto.
That's right.
And people are like, you're gone.
You're out to lunch.
You're like, I'm finished talking to you.
You're 150 years old.
You're not 80 years old.
You're 150 years old.
Guess who called me excited about that car?
You don't even need two guesses.
Yeah, Judge Porter is fired up on the DeSoto.
Anyway, Buick Sport Wagon.
I love it.
Anytime I can get a big family hauler wagon
on one of these things where it's got the secondary windshield
up on the roof, I'm in.
Like I'm a sucker for every time.
I don't even like the secondary windshield thing.
Do I need to come around on that?
Everybody raves about Vista Cruisers and all this stuff.
I'm into like normal wagons.
I want them as a...
Do you need that like weirdo like...
I just love the aesthetics of it.
I just like the way they look.
Again, I think of myself in period with like...
Because I have three children with them all loaded into this thing
and a cooler in the back.
And what I always think about secondarily, Randy,
is a lot of these have big motors toe something with it.
Absolutely toe something with it.
What's that?
Yeah, what's the motor in that thing?
This is something if it doesn't have like a 421.
This is a 340.
340 V8.
Look at that.
I'm just like ready.
I'm ready for this.
You're speaking about bench seats.
Bench seats.
Yep. Yep. Yep.
All right. Easy peasy.
Beck, what about you?
So this is definitely the era of the big American wagon.
There's so many different versions of basically like
two or three chassis, right?
And all the different...
So we can get tailgate that both open sideways or folds down.
Or down. Yes.
So good.
So sick.
Where did that technology go?
Everything's got a third row, right?
So you would think that's where I'm going to go,
but I'm going to try and be a little...
Sometimes they even have the facing seats in the back of two sets.
Sort of like a Land Rover almost, right?
Like kids are going to jump out the back.
A Buick Sport wagon troopy.
Troopy.
There you go.
But I'm actually going to stay on the theme.
I would think of our last one-year garage,
which is I'm going 1965 Aston Martin DB5 shooting break.
Oh, wow.
Show of your kids in the back of that thing.
They will have to squeeze in to get back there,
but it is two rows.
That's a thing.
A couple million bucks for one.
Let's go for it, Beck.
Beck's going to park that on the street
and Sam was just going in front of your house.
Drop off kids at public school in this car.
You make them take their shoes off before you take them to school.
No, a scruffy one would be even better.
For sure.
How many of those?
Are those one-offs?
Are they like one of 12?
Made by Radford, the old school.
Yeah.
I've heard that's been tried.
I think they tried to sort of get it going again,
but I don't think it's working anymore.
This one was at RM, the one I'm looking at.
Sold for 1.765 million.
Wow.
That's a good one.
Is it have four?
It's two doors.
Two doors, exactly.
It has a back seat.
But it has a back seat.
Amazing.
Or bench seat in the back.
Amazing.
I've been daily driving my kids in a coupe for six years now,
seven years.
It's starting to get tough, but it's doable.
I've been doing it.
Awesome.
Great pick.
That's a great looking car.
Yeah, you picked a weirdo like Zagato shooting break last time.
It was another ass.
Pretty soon you're going to find every ass.
And then we have to do the year where there's the 456 Ferrari,
four-door shooting break thing.
I think Zach picked that.
Maybe he did.
I think he did.
We've already selected that in one of these.
I love those cars.
Amazing.
All right, Randy, family hauler for you.
1965, Mercedes Fintail universal station wagon.
Super deep cut.
They made them in diesel with the little stubby front nose on them.
And then they made the big one with the six cylinder gas engine,
which is what I want.
I've actually been looking for these for a long time.
My dad and I have a real weirdo story.
I'm going to try to pull up a photo.
You guys are like, what are you even talking about?
It's a Fintail, you know, Fintail sedan.
But they made a wagon of that, which is terrific.
It has amazing proportions.
It was built by a company called Universal.
You need the stacked headlight.
It's like my Fintail that I had, the big body one in a wagon.
And there's one for sale in Europe right now.
That's very expensive.
That's restored.
And there's a bunch of junk rusted ones because they
kind of patched on the wagon conversion.
And so they all rust around where they patched it on
because it was a little bit of an afterthought.
Because they cut the sedan roof off.
Today, you're like, hey, can you restore this?
And people are like, this thing was made out of who knows what
Universal, obviously the long gone.
And my dad and I found one for sale in Carmel Valley in like 2005.
And I went down there and looked at it with him.
And I didn't have seven grand to spend on it.
And it wasn't perfect, but it was drivable and we checked it out.
And it was a widow and her husband had had it.
And he was a Benz guy and whatever.
Anyway, it was like, what's now like laughable.
But I didn't have the dough.
I was like, I want one of these so bad.
I bought my fintail later for 6,000.
The green one that sold on BET later.
Anyway, these things are super cool.
They came with larger wheels.
They were made into ambulances and stuff.
So they were made like heavy duty.
But they're really hard to find.
And I would love to have one of those.
Universal is a U.S. company?
No.
It was European.
Universal is in Europe.
There were some Benz BINZ.
I don't know if you've heard of some of these weird body makers
that Mercedes would farm out to to do special one-off stuff.
That's what I'm after right there.
This is December 23, 2011, early BET posting.
Wow, look at that.
That posting is written by me.
I was searching back then.
I found that one in the UK.
So some of them were right-hand drive.
That's a bummer.
But man, look at that.
They're 220s and 230s with carbs if they're in Europe.
Correct.
And I want to make like a RestoMod one where you'd put make a 300.
They made a 300 in the sedan that has the big block.
And you could put that in a wag with like a five-speed and a sunroof.
And I mean, the dream-
With MFI on it?
I don't know what you'd do.
But anyway, I love those cars.
And I'm already talking too long and I've lost them.
No, no, no, you have not.
No, no, no.
They're wonderful.
You can see that they were kind of like ambulance-designed, right?
Like, and then they're like, let's totally see civilian versions of it.
Absolutely.
They may have made a panel one or they make them like a popemobile one.
They make them, they make herces.
They make all sorts of weird stuff.
But man, I would really love one of those.
It's really, really cool.
Never, never knew about it.
Is that right?
Yeah, I love those.
Deep pull.
I love a deep pull.
All right, we may have to do honorable mentions without Randy
because Randy's got to jump to another call.
Let's fly through.
Let's go to Daily.
And it's up to me and I'm debating about going to Porsche's or doing...
I've already got a V8.
Oh gosh, decisions, decisions, decisions.
I'm going to do a Tiger.
I'm doing Tiger.
Send me Tiger.
I wanted that badly.
I really liked it.
I thought you were going to take my...
Now I'm going to take the one that you were probably debating about.
Probably the one I was debating about.
So Tiger, it's a Mark I and I'm happy having a nice, softy stock Baby 260.
Like the, you know, there are two barrel carburetor on the 260, aren't they, Randy?
Did they get a four barrel?
They may have a little two on them.
I think so.
I'll take the little sleepy...
You know, I'll take it with hubcaps.
Just a little sleepy stock.
I want hubcaps and stock steering wheel on a Tiger.
Totally.
Softly.
Soft suspension, just like...
Because I'm going to drive it every day.
So everybody has seven alpine?
Is that an alpine?
And you're like, yes, it is.
And then it's got a little...
It's got 190 horse V8 in it.
My uncle had one and you know it's not an alpine because you can hear the V8 all the time.
Says it on the feather.
Yeah, but you can hear the rumble all the time,
which is so coming out of that car is so incongruous, right?
It's, I love it.
I love it.
Well done.
Always liked Tigers.
We got a rapid fire here.
I know.
That's awesome.
I love Tigers too.
Great choice.
All right.
All right.
For my daily driver is lot number 46164.
It is a XKE 4.2 liter coupe.
Oh, good call.
With a five speed in it.
This one has a five speed.
But yes, but don't apologize.
Don't apologize.
Take that.
You want that.
You do.
That is a modification you want.
You want that.
I agree.
But this is also specifically this color combination is a willow green over tobacco
leather.
I think it looks fantastic together.
I actually have never sat in a coupe.
So I don't know.
You're a tall dude.
Is it going to work?
I mean, this is the problem of 65 in general.
You may need a, you may need a roadster.
I think so.
But I feel like the lines are needed for this for a coupe.
So 65 is 1.5, series 1.5 or is that a 2?
No, it's still a series 1.
Still a series 1.
But it's a 4.2 by then.
Right.
It's a 4.2.
It's no longer a 3.8, but we haven't gone to 1.5 yet because we're not yet at 68,
which is the headlamps.
Yes.
Okay.
I'll start to come and play.
Is this daily?
Are we picking daily?
Daily drivers, dude.
Daily and E-type.
I love that.
E-type daily coupe is totally makes sense.
I love that too.
Yeah.
Well done.
All right, Randy.
How about daily for you?
Small Wacobra.
That was on my list.
Like a wire reel.
Yes.
Like bumpers.
Again, softy.
Yes.
Street spec.
Yes.
Full street spec Cobra.
So good.
They were all 289 by then, right?
They're 289.
They're 289.
360s were phased.
I even have my inspected white over red.
I have the whole thing written down here.
I was thinking about this exact thing.
So again, it's similar to the Tiger.
You want it soft and just drive it every day.
Totally.
Quiet.
Totally.
Because the Tiger switches to 289 pretty soon after this.
People are like, is that a Bristol?
That's like a pretty mellow looking little thing.
And you're like, almost.
I was last night doing the review for this
and pouring through the...
I know everyone loves the 420s.
The 427s just do nothing for me.
289 all day, man.
289 all day.
260 for some of those early cars.
The Herbie Hancock car.
I love to have a lot of cars with a 260 in it.
100% with two barrel.
Right?
Just tons of torque and no HP.
A Tiger would be cool.
Early Mustang would be cool.
All of that.
That era.
Yeah, but you just beat the crap out of me, dude,
because I'm daily driving Tiger,
which is what the poor guy drives.
He's looking at you.
Great.
And he's like, I want that Cobra.
Sorry, man.
You left the door wide open.
I did.
It was written all over your notes here.
I'm not going to have any notes.
No notes, Cobra.
I know.
The question was just which category does Cobra go in?
Sports car, daily, wild car,
and truck and family is a little bit of a stretch.
All right.
No C2 Corvette from any of us,
which is fascinating.
There's still time.
I know.
Okay, yeah.
356 is on the table too.
I thought about a little...
A Furman daily driver is bad,
but a Carrera 2 final year, 356,
with a 2-liter Furman is pretty good.
All right.
Wild card.
I'm going to get the one I want,
and I don't think any of you guys want it anyway,
but this is one of my favorite cars of all time.
It is the Honda RA272 Formula 1 car
with these sideways-mounted 1.5-liter V12.
I have a model of this car on my mantle,
much to my wife's chagrin.
I love these cars.
We've posted videos at my bequest on BAT of them,
ripping around on that little sideways V12.
Well done.
I love those.
Probably my favorite Grand Prix car of all time.
Okay.
Kind of peak Honda mechanical fuel injection.
We saw it recently, didn't we?
Was it at Monterey this year?
Gosh, did they have one there?
They had the Porsche Flat 8 Grand Prix car,
but I don't know if I've ever seen one of these before.
I don't know if they come out of Japan very often.
They only raced for a little bit.
The movie Grand Prix has one of these in it.
Dude, you want the Japanese literally as well.
Of course, white with red.
It might be super bummed
because we were all at the track,
and I think there was one there.
Jesus, I missed it if it was there,
which is a huge bummer.
I'm going to have to look that up.
We're going to have to look that up.
But I absolutely love that car.
Maybe in our podcast post,
we can link to that video again
of the Honda Museum firing one up
and just having a guy run in first and second gear
around the parking lot.
And it sounds so good.
It's like 14,000 RPM out of a 1.5-liter V12
with mechanical fuel injection.
And weird because it's mounted sideways instead of north-south.
Awesome car.
Okay, back.
All right, sticking with the race car theme,
Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2.
Got a lot of GTO vibes, for sure.
But I think these are absolutely gorgeous
and would be my wild card for race car theme.
Not something that you can be daily driving
or using in any other capacity.
They look like a GTO, kind of, like a Ferrari GTO.
Yes, it's basically the cop-out since the GTO.
TZ1 is quickly becoming maybe my favorite car of all time.
There was one at Machinima,
and it was my favorite car there.
But the TZ2 is outrageous.
For sure.
It's outrageous.
And we've listed the TZ3,
which is the Viper-based thing.
That's like kind of a mix of the two.
Great pick.
All right, Randy, you can bail after you pick your wild card.
Love this, man.
There's so much good stuff.
Are you telling me this is my last choice?
Yes, it is.
So you can pick big.
And then you're going to miss my favorite part,
which is we talk about all the cars we didn't pick
because there's a lot of good stuff that got left on the board.
65 is just an absolutely incredible year.
There's too much good stuff here.
I'm sad that I got to, like, not choose some things.
Already picked, Cobra.
So, 904.
904.65, correct?
I'm tough.
They were raised 65.
I was looking as well.
And from what I can tell,
they stopped being made in 64,
but they still raised 64.
Oh, that doesn't count.
That doesn't count.
And then 66 is the 906.
So, 905, 65 is like a bat is a skittier.
Is a skittier.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, man, are you not going to let me do that, Beck?
Oh, rats.
You shut him down on the 901 thing,
and he's like, here, he's clapping back.
Oh, that was tough.
904, it would be a really good pick.
That would be a good pick.
I didn't do...
Well, here was the...
Like a straight-up muscle car.
So, okay, I'm doing...
Wildcard is a 65GTO.
Oh, great.
Tri-Power.
Awesome.
389, Tri-Power Stick,
dark color, steel wheels, hubcaps.
Man, these have been calling my name.
Just drive a GTO every day.
Burnout every morning.
Yeah.
Burnout on your way out.
I think it'd be awesome.
Of course.
Alarm clock for the...
Just pull up in the GTO.
I know.
There's one guy in my neighborhood
that cruises around in a 64GTO,
and it's just kind of...
Nobody cares.
Oh, but they're so good-looking.
But they're so cool.
But it just looks like a random square American car
to most people who drive Prius and lame stuff, right?
So, they're just like, that's just a sedan.
And it's like, that dude's cruising around in a GTO.
I think they're so good-looking.
That's DeLorean, right?
It's still 65.
Oh, yeah.
That's really cool.
That's good for...
John Zore.
Anyway, that's my story.
Stick into it.
Okay.
Before you bail, I know you got to go,
well, you want to mention one or two that you missed out on
because we're going to do honorable mentions, right?
I mean, GT40.
I picked a Cobra.
But GT40 is actually the right answer for everything.
Yes.
The non-winning one, the one before it starts to connect.
Who cares, Mark?
Whatever GT40 has been made in 65, yes.
The answer is yes to GT40 all the time.
So, I feel like a little bit of an idiot doing this,
but picking a Cobra and a GT40 is kind of dumb,
but kind of not dumb.
That's great.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I thought about that for a while.
Anyway, man, did any of us pick a small block Chevy,
powered anything?
I don't think there's one show.
I want a Chevy in my Toyota, but that's lame.
That's an important era for GM.
And we did a lot of...
I want to...
I mean, I went GM, but I went 389.
Well, that's 76 was on my daily driver.
Correct.
That's the fueli...
Fueli 327.
The most powerful sports car.
That's what I was debating doing for a daily driver,
a fueli four-speed coupe C2 327 fueli.
So good.
So good.
One of those around here too.
You want a ratty vet parked on the streets.
With side pipes and like hubcaps.
Beck's dad wants this also.
You mean tasty, tasty.
All right.
Get out of here, Randy.
We'll finish up without you.
Rock and roll.
That was a fun list.
65.
You're my parents graduated high school.
I love 65.
That's as good as it gets.
Oh, man.
Anyway, thanks for including me.
Thanks, bud.
I don't think we stepped on each other's toes that much either.
Not too much.
There's so much.
Except for you crushing me with Porsche.
Okay.
Thank you all.
See you, bud.
All right.
Beck, should I do a little recap to start
and then we'll do honorable mentions?
Okay.
For sports car, Alex, 65.911 in Champaign Yellow.
Beck, 65 GT350 first year.
The vents, the louvers instead of quarter windows.
So good.
Randy Stepnos, GTA.
Very good.
Any color.
He'll take it in any color.
Halfway between race and street spec.
As long as it's alloy body.
Dude, Robbie's car was so good.
You would have loved it.
Truck four by four.
Alex, Falcon Ranchero.
Red, red, 289 four-speed buckets.
I think that's the winner right there.
It's so good.
Bring that car into the office.
Beck, type two transporter.
And I can't remember if you said,
do you want the canvas roll upsides on it?
Like that lot that you picked?
Like that lot would be nice.
I think you got to have some self-recovery on that.
Yeah.
I agree.
I agree.
And then you can hide that you're driving your kids
around illegally in the back.
Although it wouldn't have been illegal in 1965.
Would have been encouraged.
Would have been encouraged.
Randy, oh, this is a good one.
I think Randy wins on truck four by four.
The FJ45 LV wagon.
Did you know about those?
The reason why I was able to pull it up so fast
is that it was my number two pick.
Oh, was it really?
That specific one, too.
That specific car.
Yeah.
Really good looking.
Because I like 55s.
So that's like an interesting...
55s are good.
I love that air of sort of ugly, beautiful,
when they just become such usable tools.
And that one specifically sort of stands out
because people don't think of like the wagon
body version of that one.
He's absolutely right that the way that the cow
sort of flares outward from the front end
is sort of obscure and weird.
And sort of looks like a weird custom build,
but it was a real car.
Plus corrugated sides.
Always good.
A family hauler.
I got Buick Sport wagon.
Beck, you got Aston DB5 shooting break.
And Randy got Mercedes Fintail universal wagon.
Another car I didn't know about.
I was expecting some big giant American wagon from him.
Well, I'm definitely a loser there.
It's one of you two is going to win that category.
Daily driver, Tiger Mark I for myself.
Sleepy's back.
Beck, you picked a specific E-type coupe.
Willow green over tobacco.
Great.
And a coupe.
I'm just such a coupe guy, too.
Amazing.
Keep the five speed.
That's the move.
And daily driver for Randy.
A street spec Cobra 289.
Very, very solid.
And wild card.
RA272 Honda Grand Prix car for me.
TZ2 for you.
I think that's the winner in wild card back.
And Randy a GTO tri power four speed.
I didn't get to tell him this,
but that was on my shortlist for daily driver too.
You can absolutely do that car every day.
Good stuff, right?
Yeah.
Missed stuff for wild card that I was tough
because I feel like we were getting a little too repetitious
with Shelby products,
but we listed a GT350R on the site.
And I feel like that'd be the better wild car,
but I already picked a GT.
This is like race car, race car, but still very cool.
Very cool.
And the other one would have been actually in 65.
If you didn't want to buy the loser GT40,
it would be the Shelby Cobra coupe,
aka Daytona.
Daytona coupe.
Those are 65s.
There's only six of them or something like that.
And that one actually finished Le Mans in 65,
whereas the GT40s didn't.
Weird factoid about 65.
14 cars finished.
Do you know how many entries didn't finish at Le Mans that year?
Only 14 finished.
Only 14 finished.
I mean, there's probably at least 50 cars as an entrance.
60?
How many?
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
It was about 50 cars.
37 cars did not finish.
I mean, if you watch the movie or read the,
I mean, shout out to AJ Bain,
former guest of this podcast who wrote Go Like Hell,
which is a fantastic book that I'd recommend to everyone.
You know, Reliability is the big issue.
In fact, you probably already know this,
but the Daytona coupe was faster than the GT40 originally,
because it was more developed.
And Ken Miles wanted to use that instead of the GT40,
but Ford wanted the more,
they wanted the more kind of, you know,
technologically advanced car,
which didn't end up panning out,
but it might not have, right?
Because that was a Lola before that was even less reliable.
What other honorable mentions?
What else did we miss back?
I've got a huge list here.
Alpine A110.
What a great sports car that we missed.
Unfortunately, 65 is very early for those.
There's not many of them.
We've listed only really two of them,
one of them we had twice,
and there were really more both kind of like race cars.
Were they racing those in the race car A110s
with all the lights across the front?
Oh, yeah, these are the rally car versions of it.
I suspect they were,
but the A110 would have been a good one that we missed.
Ferrari 275 GTB.
Correct, which is replacing the 250 basically.
Basically, that's why you have to pick that one.
Yeah, that was an interesting one as well.
We had one of those in the office a while back,
but we got to walk around and sort of poke and prod.
Interesting time for Alfa Romeo.
Everything is a Julia.
Everything's named a Julia.
Whether it has four doors or two doors,
or is it convertible?
So does it have a hard time or does it not have a hard time?
I'm sure there's a story behind that.
I don't know it,
but everything's a Julia,
but the Sprint Speciale,
I find to be probably the most beautiful of that year.
That's not my short list.
I love those cars.
So that was a daily driver option for me.
And you're right.
We missed a good main GM product of C2 Corvette.
And you and I love them.
We do.
Randy loves them.
Your dad loves them.
Daily in a small block would be the choice to be made.
I wouldn't mind a little cooking motor
and that to a single four barrel,
like the 300 horse, 327.
Sure, especially for a daily driver.
An example would be pretty fantastic.
Maybe even a vert with a removable hard top.
Yep, probably the way I would fit too.
For pickups, I had it on my list, a Land Rover Series 2A.
Oh yeah, of course.
They just look so good,
but I've only heard miserable things about them.
But they look so freaking good.
But we don't have to worry about that in this thing.
We don't worry about reliability.
Don't forget your family hauler is not very reliable,
probably, nor your daily driver.
You're going to need to be swapping
between your Aston and your Jag.
But with sports car 911, you stole that right out from under me.
Were you thinking 356?
A 356 SC?
Wasn't even on my radar.
Okay.
You're right that the Carrera Motor 1
would have been the right way to go.
That's the 2-liter.
That's the last one.
And those have plain bearings.
I think it's a more robust engine.
They'd work development.
Everything's about it is supposedly a better option.
But I hadn't even considered a 356.
It's all the way out.
I was honestly considering it the same way you were thinking of
if you were in the dealership,
you're in the Porsche.
It's not even a dealership.
It's probably just some European motors
that's got a few volts wagons and Porsches in the mix.
And they would have in 65 a 356 and a 911 to each other.
And even if they had the Carrera 2,
they would have said, yeah,
this is the overhead valve four-cylinder.
And this is the overhead valve six-cylinder.
Which one do you want?
They go, I want the new one.
Yeah, overhead cam four-cylinder.
Overhead cam six-cylinder.
So interestingly, you say that my father-in-law,
this actually happened to him in about 1966.
No, it would have been a little bit later
because he was looking at a Dino.
So maybe around early 70s, something like that.
In Marin, he was a surgeon and he went to go look at a Dino.
And there was a essentially new 65 through 56 SC sitting there
because no one wanted it.
It had some miles on it, but it was basically,
it'd been sitting for five, six years.
It was basically a brand new car, gray with red leather.
And he fell in love with it and he bought that.
And to his dying day, that was his favorite car.
He owned a lot of interesting cars,
but that was his favorite one.
And I think of the SC as a pretty cool car,
the very last through 56.
I feel like you bring that late into it.
And it's a 912 mode, basically, right?
Sure.
And 65, I mean, 911s didn't sell terribly well either.
A lot of them got, there was some famous bulletin
that Portia put out that said basically,
if you've got unsold 65, 911 inventory.
Column 66.
Which we have problems with because people want to call,
now want to call them 65s.
Exactly.
They want to be first year, but in fact,
they weren't titled until the following year
and they approve it.
And then there's different decisions as far as like,
well, what's the VIN cut off?
At what point?
A lot of car decks debate.
A lot of car decks debate.
Oh my God.
Car decks friction.
Car decks friction.
The yellow car that I chose,
part of the reason I like it is it was built in Feb of 65.
It's like serial number, like 350 something.
It's the first couple of 911s ever built, right?
So El Camino.
I was considering El Camino's.
Just a regular Falcon would be amazing.
Beetle.
Beetle is a daily.
So, would be a good one.
Kind of hard to find those cars now,
that the early ones are gone.
Whereas weirdly enough, it seems like type two buses
are much easier to find.
Yes.
And so I sort of felt like I already had that covered.
And I don't know, daily driver, it's got to be tough.
In San Francisco, that'd be great though.
I just, I think about my first car, my Gia all the time.
It's just so delightful to drive a Volkswagen around every day.
So, you're right.
You're not going to win the Instagram popularity contest
with a Beetle, but it would be.
People smile at you though.
Yes.
And it would be fun to drive.
Yeah.
And like non-carb people too.
Probably couldn't have two Mustangs and maybe too much overlap.
We didn't have to debate it,
but a Notchback or a Fastback 289 four speed as a daily.
K code.
Totally.
Yeah.
Totally.
Even a V8 with a two barrel, like a, you know,
you want a V8, I think, rather than a six cylinder,
but a four speed V8 hard top.
Even a Notch would be an interesting daily.
I would love, actually, honestly, like a K code that came out of San Jose,
like one that didn't get sent down to Shelby American would be,
I think, a really fun alternative to have.
100% black plates on it and everything.
A little bit of patina.
Riviera, 65 Rivieras are very pretty.
A headlamp specifically.
Yeah.
You thought about those.
Yes.
You thought about that.
Interesting.
You searched 1965 just like flat out on results on VAT and there's a ton of those.
Yeah.
They just, they pop up.
I forgot to say, we have 17 live,
and we have over 4,000 results from 1965,
which I think for older years is about as high as we get.
A lot of times we do these older years,
and we've had two or 3,000 cars, sometimes under 2,000,
over 4,000 cars from 1965 we've listed.
Well, this is the era of incredibly high production.
Yes.
Right.
Hundreds of thousands of a single model are sold like per year.
Right.
So you keep a car for a couple of years.
That's it.
Right.
And you replace it.
And with American cars, they just lasted.
At least they were preserved far better than, say, the European equivalent.
So just the inventory, pretend.
Crankin' them out.
For sure.
Crankin' them out.
And then the parts supplies start in the 90s, which is just incredible too.
Not a great year for BMW.
No.
You looked at that.
It's mainly motorcycles when you look at our results.
But there were 1800.
There's the Cedans.
There's new class.
The new class has.
TISA.
That TISA was a success.
TISA is available.
That would have been actually a great family haul.
Oh, holy cow.
How did I miss that?
Yeah.
I don't think about it.
A TISA would have been great.
We don't have a 2002 yet.
66, I believe, is first year of 1600.
Yep.
So you don't have a little two-door daily driver that you can really do just yet.
My father-in-law's other favorite car he owned was a 600.
Oh, really?
He had a 1600 new.
1600 in the 65 SC.
And he owned Model A's and 49 Mercs.
And he had a 912.
And he had a bunch of new Mercedes.
And he bought Hondas early on.
He had Hondas in the 70s and 80s when they were brand new.
Hondas and Acuras.
But those were his two favorites.
1600 and the 65.
356 SC.
Isn't it odd that the SC, I've heard the SC is supposed to stand for
Super Carrera, which in fact, there was the Carrera, which had the real better engine in it?
I know.
Although, honestly, if you were going to drive on a route as a daily,
you'd rather have a push-rod motor.
And 100 horsepower is plenty in a 356.
Let's see.
I got one or two more here that I was going to mention.
Oh, I thought I couldn't go full-back.
But I was thinking about a Bentley Continental Flying Spur, the real pretty curvy sedan.
You know, they're Moliner-bodied as a family hauler.
I thought that would be really good.
That was from about 1960, but we had Alfred Hitchcock's a couple of years ago.
But that same car they kept building forever.
It's a real pretty, sporty, fast, four-door curvy Bentley.
Definitely the inspiration for the modern Continental that's been such a hit.
You see it.
You're like, is that a 1985 car or a 1965 car?
I can't tell.
It's like American pickups.
Is that 1953 or 1971?
It's the same car.
I think that's pretty much all I got.
We covered a lot of ground.
I mean, I didn't even go that far back on 65.
We have so many results.
I was even thinking there was one wild card.
I was generally considering Austin Mini Moke.
Because you had that Moke.
I sold a very original Mini Moke.
It wasn't a 65.
But you had a hoot with that thing.
I got to drive it around a little bit.
I flat out don't even that's an open top.
Yes.
Still can't comfortably operate the controls.
Because it's so tight.
It's so tight.
It's so tight.
Hurts like the knees and the ankles and everything.
But I think they're super fun.
I think to be a phenomenal thing if you've got-
Up at your cabin.
Up at the cabin.
Or if you've got like a beach house.
I mean, that's the real move.
If you have a beach house to drive around.
Moke over Jolly.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
I think so too.
For sure.
I'm not a big jolly.
Yeah.
I mean, they're interesting, but it's just not quite for me.
We didn't talk about Merck's Mercedes enough.
Not Mercury's Mercedes.
A 230 with fuel injection on it in a W111 coupe.
That's not a bad car.
That's not too bad.
But we don't have like the big straight sixes yet.
No, they're the small straight sixes.
But they've got MFI and they're-
That'd be kind of a stately cruiser.
You could drive that every day and enjoy it.
My dad had a bunch of them in sedans and coupes and loved them.
So that's an interesting car.
At least very pretty.
I love the 111 coupe.
That'd be great.
Yeah.
All right.
Did we do it?
Sue, did we do it if you're still listening?
I'm loving the in-person recommendations and questions.
Well, I don't want to blow it now.
Next time we record, but shout out to listener Will,
who sent in an interesting question.
I'll just tease it to the audience so people can think about it and do you back,
which is cars where we've sold a significant percentage of the total production run.
Sure. I think that's all.
Uh-huh. I do too.
Especially ones that are numbered.
Yeah. Don't say it yet because this is a whole discussion.
But it was a really cool idea.
We'll definitely talk about it maybe next time we record.
I came up with a few.
Will, the listener who we appreciate, came up with a few.
And so we'll chat about that in the future.
It is a cool thing.
And there's some cars where we've listed like,
you know, 15 or 20% of total production run on BAT, right?
And that's only going to go up and up and up.
Sure.
Yeah.
All right, dude.
Thanks for doing this.
Any parting shots?
Nope. That's it.
I'm sorry we lost Randy here at the end though,
but he has phenomenal, phenomenal picks.
Just for listeners, he's like straight into the office, into the podcast.
And it was like, it was an amazing performance.
I think all three of us are going into meetings at about two minutes.
That's correct.
That's right.
We got to cut it off.
We got to cut it off.
All right. Thanks, Beck.
Thanks to Randy.
Thanks to all of you for listening and we will catch you next time.
About this episode
A deep dive into the automotive landscape of 1965, featuring a lively discussion among hosts Alex, Randy, and Beck as they curate their ideal garages from that iconic year. The episode highlights the significance of various models, including the Porsche 911, Shelby Mustang GT350, and Alfa Romeo GTA, while also touching on cultural moments and automotive history. Listeners will appreciate the banter and insights into the evolution of cars during this pivotal time, along with personal anecdotes and recommendations for future episodes.
1.5 liter
emissions regulations
horsepower
hub caps
Jim Clark
Le Mans
Lotus
race spec
SC cabs and coupes
six-figure numbers
Alfa Romeo Giulia
Alfa Romeo GTV
Alpine A110
Aston Martin DB5
Bentley Flying Spur
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet El Camino
Chrysler Daytona
Ferrari 250 GT
Ferrari 250 GTO
Ferrari 275 GTB
Ferrari 308 GTB
Ferrari 456 M GT
Ford Falcon
Ford GT40
Ford Mustang
Ford Ranchero
Jaguar E-Type
Jaguar Mark I
Jaguar XK-E
Mazda RX-7
Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser
Pontiac GTO
Porsche 356
Porsche 904
Porsche 911
Shelby Cobra
Subaru 360
Toyota Land Cruiser
Toyota Prius
Volkswagen Type 2
Original notes
It's time once again for your favorite game—The One-Year Garage! This time we're back for one of the best automotive years imaginable: 1965, by special request of Sue Counselman from Vintage Underground. In addition to the crew's picks for their preferred sports car, family hauler, truck/4x4, daily driver, and wild card, we have Randy's hot take on the second-series GTO; a flippy-floppy driving video in Hawaii; Alex's ideal Eichler-dwelling 1965 self; what constitutes too many windshields; deep pulls from the Brits and Germans; a sobering trivia tidbit from Le Mans; Alfa Romeo naming conventions; Kardex friction, and (of course)...more!
Links for things mentioned in this episode:
4:04 Ferrari 250 GTO drive review. Does it still deserve its almost mythical status today? Harry's Garage on YouTube
7:07 1965 Porsche 911 Coupe 5-Speed BaT listing
9:44 1965 Shelby Mustang GT350 BaT listing
10:49 Modified 1985 Ferrari 308 GTB and 1985 Mazda RX-7 Group B Rally Car BaT listings
11:08 1965 Alfa Romeo GTA BaT search
13:44 3.0L Busso V6-Powered 1972 Alfa Romeo Spider-R by Alfaholics BaT listing
17:10 1965 Ford Falcon Ranchero Deluxe 289 4-Speed BaT listing
22:22 6.0L-Powered 1965 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ45LV BaT listing
25:00 1965 Buick Sport Wagon BaT listing
25:40 413-Powered 1960 DeSoto Fireflite Hardtop BaT listing
27:39 1965 Aston Martin DB5 Shooting Brake Reddit
29:06 Mercedes-Benz Universal station wagon BaT feature
30:38 1967 Mercedes Benz 230S Fintail Rally Car BaT listing
33:31 1965 Jaguar XKE Series I 4.2 Coupe 5-Speed BaT listing
34:35 1964 Shelby Cobra 289 BaT listing
36:17 Sounds Good: 1965 Honda RA272 V12 BaT feature
37:33 Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ and TZ2 FCA Heritage
39:08 1965 Pontiac GTO BaT search
44:37 AJ Baime on Go Like Hell, The Arsenal of Democracy, and More BaT podcast episode
45:10 1965 Alpine A110 BaT search
46:00 1965 Alfa Romeo Sprint Speciale BaT search
46:37 1965 Land Rover Series IIA BaT search
50:23 1965 Buick Riviera BaT search
53:10 1965 Austin Mini Moke BaT search
54:08 1965 Mercedes-Benz Coupe BaT search
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