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Ford Model T
The Ford Model T is one of the oldest and most famous cars in history, first built over 100 years ago. It was the first car that regular working-class people could afford to buy, and it did not have modern features like air conditioning or heaters.
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Dodge Ram
This is a large, powerful pickup truck made for heavy-duty work, towing, and comfortable highway driving. Some special versions, like the TRX, are built with massive engines and special suspension to jump over sand dunes.
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Ram TRX
The Ram TRX is an incredibly fast, giant pickup truck designed to drive over rough desert sand dunes and jump through the air. It has a massive supercharged engine that makes it accelerate like a race car despite weighing as much as an elephant.
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Ram Cummins Power Wagon
This is a heavy-duty heavy-lifting truck designed for extreme off-roading. It features a powerful diesel engine that can pull heavy trailers, combined with special suspension parts that help it climb over giant rocks.
Car
Dodge Power Wagon
The Power Wagon is an extra-large, heavy-duty pickup truck built specifically to go over extreme off-road obstacles. It comes from the factory with special tools, like a built-in pulling cable (winch) on the front bumper, to help it get out of deep mud.
Term
sway bar disconnect
A sway bar is a metal bar that keeps a car from leaning too much in corners. Off-road, you actually want the wheels to move up and down as much as possible to climb over rocks; this feature lets you push a button to temporarily disconnect that bar so the wheels can stretch further down to touch the ground.
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front locker
Normally, if one wheel of a car is stuck on ice or in the air, it will spin while the other wheel does nothing. A front locker forces both front wheels to spin together at the exact same time, helping the truck claw its way out of slippery mud or over steep rocks.
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Ford F-150 Raptor R
This is Ford's ultimate off-road truck. It has a supercharged V8 engine from a high-end sports car, giant tires, and a racing suspension that lets it drive over rough terrain at highway speeds.
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Dodge Dakota
The Dodge Dakota was a medium-sized pickup truck that was popular in the 1990s and 2000s. It was loved because it was smaller than a giant work truck but could still be ordered with a powerful V8 engine.
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Jeep Gladiator
The Jeep Gladiator is a four-door pickup truck that looks exactly like a Jeep Wrangler but has a truck bed attached to the back. It is made for driving on rough dirt trails and allows you to take the roof and doors off for open-air driving.
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Ram RHO
The Ram RHO looks almost exactly like the wild TRX truck, but instead of a loud, gas-guzzling V8 engine, it uses a high-tech twin-turbocharged six-cylinder engine that still makes plenty of power but is lighter and slightly more efficient.
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Dodge Challenger
The Dodge Challenger is a large, classic-looking two-door sports car known as a 'muscle car.' It is famous for having very powerful engines, making loud exhaust noises, and being designed to go very fast in a straight line.
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Ford F150
The Ford F-150 is a very popular, large pickup truck used for towing trailers, carrying heavy cargo, or everyday driving. It comes in many different versions, from simple work trucks to expensive luxury models and fast off-road versions.
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Challenger Hellcat
The Challenger is a large, retro-styled two-door sports car. It is famous for its loud, incredibly powerful V8 engines that are designed for fast acceleration.
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Bmw I8
The BMW i8 is a futuristic-looking sports car with doors that swing upward like wings. It uses a combination of an electric motor and a small gas engine to go fast while using less fuel.
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Jeep Wrangler
The Jeep Wrangler is a rugged, boxy SUV designed specifically for driving over rocks, mud, and rough trails. You can take its doors and roof completely off to enjoy the outdoors while driving.
Concept
beadlock capable wheels
These are special wheels that allow you to clamp the tire directly to the metal rim. This is useful when off-roading because it lets you let most of the air out of your tires to get better grip on rocks without the tire popping off the wheel.
Car
Ford F-150 Lightning
The F-150 Lightning is a fully electric version of the famous Ford pickup truck. Instead of running on gas, it runs on batteries, has a giant storage space under the hood where the engine used to be, and can plug in to power household appliances.
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Ford Maverick
The Ford Maverick is a small, budget-friendly pickup truck. Unlike traditional heavy trucks, it is built like a normal crossover car, making it easy to park, comfortable to drive, and very fuel-efficient.
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Ford Ranger
The Ford Ranger is a medium-sized pickup truck. It is larger than the small Maverick but smaller than the giant F-150, making it a good middle-ground option for people who need to tow things but want a truck that fits in a standard garage.
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Hyundai Santa Cruz
The Hyundai Santa Cruz is a small vehicle that looks like a comfortable SUV in the front but has a small open truck bed in the back. It is designed for city drivers who want to carry dirty outdoor gear like bicycles or camping equipment without owning a giant truck.
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Ford Ranchero
The Ford Ranchero is a vintage vehicle from the 1950s through the 1970s that was half-car and half-truck. It had the comfortable front end of a normal car but a useful open truck bed in the back.
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Welcome to TFL Talking Trucks Podcast, Kase.
I'm really hoping that all the folks out there are staying cool, because outside it's very
hot.
It is, yeah.
It's not a great time right now to be driving some of our older trucks, plenty of which don't
have AC, like the Model T pickup, for example.
Well, it has fresh air.
I mean, you're in the elements already.
Yeah, it's just like having a hairdryer pointed at you.
Exactly.
No, I just got back to it from South Bend, Indiana, and this wasn't even the hottest
day, but I was there for a very special reason about which we're going to be speaking a lot
about, because the TRX is back, the Ram TRX.
And the excitement is that you got to drive it, it's just that we can't yet talk about
how it drives.
Yeah, but there's plenty there.
Yeah.
Plus, we can do a couple of other news items.
We could also talk to you directly, because we're live right now on Patreon, patreon.com
slash tflcar.
So Fobro4Enthusiast is always with us.
Thank you so much for being here.
So if you have comments, questions, you could always kind of interact with us here on the
show.
And then, yeah, we can talk about news.
There's stuff going on at Ford and much more.
The other cool thing is, when you went to Indiana to drive the TRX, there was another
truck there, which as you know, I'm very excited about.
Yes.
The Cummins Power Wagon, except, yeah, there wasn't a Cummins Power Wagon available to
drive yet.
So the drive program for that is going to be...
It's still coming up.
Later.
Yeah.
But I was able to get into it, actually drove it unofficially, secretly.
Interestingly.
Secretly, yes.
But we can also talk about that because it was a surprise.
Yeah.
Because everybody thought we were going there to see the brand new 2027 Ram TRX.
And then, when Ram said, by the way, we have two other trucks for you to look at, which
were two versions, I mean, two examples of the Cummins Power Wagon.
Here's a good question other than with midsize trucks, although actually maybe in the future,
which we'll talk about, but is Ram right now at the top of the off-road truck game?
Because you've got the new Cummins Power Wagon, which is the only diesel heavy-duty truck
on the market with a front locker and a rear sway bar disconnect.
Yes.
And then you look at the TRX, more powerful now than the Raptor R, which is also pretty
good.
Big margin, actually.
And of course, the Dakota is going to be coming out.
We don't know much about that yet, and I'm sure they'll do a more performance-oriented
off-road-oriented version of that truck.
But at this point seems very likely, if not, have they confirmed whether they're doing
a 392 in the Gladiator upcoming?
Nothing in those words.
But it seems...
I think what they did confirm is that SRT versions of the Gladiator and other vehicles,
including even their new SUV they're thinking about, which is the Ram Charger.
Which is also going to make a pretty big splash in the mid-size truck segment.
Obviously, that's not a ram-branded truck, but under the same umbrella.
So in a way, they're kind of rocking the off-road space.
Yes, because we can talk about just the plethora of trim levels and off-road versions they
have, because you mentioned just a couple, but there's also the standard Power Wagon,
there's also HD Rebel, there's HD Warlock, and in the 1500 space, the Hafton full-size
space, there's so much going on, including the back country.
So there is Warlock, back country, Rebel, and RHO, and TRX.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
That's a good lineup.
Woof!
Wow, that's a lot.
Yeah, so what all with the TRX do you want to talk about?
Yeah, so first of all, TFL truck at the studio, we used to own a TRX back in 2020.
Well, this was a 2021 model when it came out.
We grabbed it at the very end of 2020, and that was one of our favorite trucks.
I mean, it's hard to say.
Did you get to drive it?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you drove it because over a year, yeah, at least over a year, I have a story on TFL
truck.com about the 2027 TRX, and actually the one I was able to grab early was the same
color, basically the same color, red with black accents, the one we used to have.
Yeah, and obviously there are more similarities than differences between this new TRX and
the TRX that we had so many years ago, but the biggest headline features, of course,
as most people at this point know, that they've upped the horsepower.
Yeah, and a lot of criticism, I think, comes from that angle, is that this is the same old
truck, right?
And so I wanted to kind of talk about that.
I mean, is it the same old truck or what's going on?
Because I was able to get really up close and personal with this truck for what, a day
and a half, and so we can address all those things.
So first of all, it does start basically the same size, and the style of the truck is not
that much different from an RHO, right?
So if you saw a way on the street, you know, a few blocks away, an RHO driving up to you
or a TRX driving up to you, you may not actually notice a lot of difference, but there's a
special touches in the TRX that they kind of added to it to kind of make it different.
Yeah, and it would be nice maybe to differentiate the trucks a little bit more because other
than obviously the sound coming out of the truck, they do look pretty much the same.
And I don't know if saying it's the same old truck is necessarily a critique because I
think that's what most people want.
And liked about the truck.
Yeah, because if you look at something, I mean, this is on the car side of things, but
if you were to look at what happened with the old charger and challenger, and then the
new charger as it came out, people don't, in that space, especially don't really want
different.
So if they were to take the TRX and make it hybrid or, you know, some combination of
things that would actually make it substantially different, I'm not sure people would really
be excited about that.
I agree because if you had customers before and they liked something, the product, they
will come back because they still like the product, right?
Because it's a really good product.
Of course, it's expensive product.
We can talk about pricing as well.
But so the chassis of it, the look and feel of the truck is very, very similar to what
it has been.
The tire size is also 35.
I was trying to, you know, kind of e-cout why not 37, right?
Because the Raptor R, the main competitor, the F-150 Raptor R is rolling on 37s.
So there's different, of course, answers this way or another way.
But I think really the headline story is what's under the hood of the new TRX.
Yeah, exactly.
So a fairly familiar Hellcat engine, essentially, 6.2 liter supercharged.
But they didn't just, you know, easy thing would be to change the pulley on a supercharger.
Change the mapping.
Change the mapping and get a little bit more, you know, fuel to the engine.
And bam, you have monstrous horsepower.
But I was talking to the chief engineer of SRT, his name is Dan.
And I kind of had them go through what's going on with this, you know, what did they change?
And they changed quite a lot.
First of all, the air intake system is way different.
And remember, when you open the hood in the original TRX, under a little plastic cover,
there would be an image of a TRX eating a Raptor, which is not so subtle.
Fun little Easter egg when it came out.
So that's gone.
So when you open the hood, there is a little bit of plastic covering and a little bit of
decorative plastic, a little bit on top of the engine bay.
But the engine is a lot more visible.
I think some of the criticism on the original TRX, because when you go to a car show,
a truck show, you know, you want to open up your hood and kind of show off.
TRX is very much a truck about showing off.
Yes, in every way possible.
Not meant to be subtle.
So when you pop the engine, now you can see the engine from all sides, because previously
you had to like lean over to the passenger side and be like, look at my engine right
there. It's it's it's inside.
But now you could see it from every angle.
The supercharger is very visible.
It's right there.
It's it's still, I believe, a 2.4 liter volume of the supercharger.
The engine is a 6.2 just like it was.
But he said they changed the fuel pump pressure so it's able to pump more fuel.
He said it went from five bar of pressure to seven, which is a significant increase.
So and then the functional hood scoop on the TRX is still there, obviously.
And he actually said these numbers because a lot of people said that the hood
scoop doesn't provide a lot of benefit.
But he said 40 percent of the air comes via the hood scoop and 60 percent of the
air comes from the second inlet that's inside the grill.
Specifically for the intake?
Not for cooling.
Yes, specifically for the engine air.
So the cooling, there's another little path that dumps a little bit of air on top of
the supercharger.
So there's a little bit of flow of air.
So I guess the supercharger can get a tiny bit of cooling just via air, but it
also has, of course, liquid cooling, including oil and all that stuff.
So yeah, so some mechanical upgrades for sure.
It's more than what an aftermarket tuner a lot of times would do, although it
would depend on how extensive.
Well, here's a new look.
If you're watching us on TFL Talk channel, not just listening to us, here's at
least a snapshot of what under the hood of the truck looks like.
Yeah.
But it seems like overall relatively minor upgrades in order to get that power
out of this engine, because from going to what, 702 to 7777, yeah, is, is
not an incredibly huge upgrade.
75 horsepower is nothing to shrug at, but I don't want to say it's a drop in
the bucket when you're closing in on 800 horsepower because it should.
Again, we, you can't talk about driving yet.
I haven't driven it.
I would imagine that 75 horsepower should make a noticeable difference.
But yeah, either way, now they've one upped the Raptor R, which is by a big
margin, which is at 720 horsepower right now.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's a big difference.
It's not like five horsepower here and there.
I mean, it's a big chunk.
So that's nice for them, especially because what, what are the prices on
the Raptor R and the TRX?
So, so the, the Raptor R, and we can kind of look at the website, I guess.
But I did, I did all this recently.
The Raptor R started about $113,500 and that's kind of all in.
I mean, there's not a lot of options you could add to a truck like this.
TRX with destinations just one or 21 or two, 700.
So there's already what 11 grand difference there.
Yeah.
And the TRX has more power.
So it potentially represents some pretty decent value.
It's kind of a similar situation with horsepower per dollar, comparing the
RHO and the standard Raptor.
Yeah.
So Ram is being very aggressive.
I mean, to your point about their lineup, they're being very aggressive with
high horsepower and actually good values, relatively speaking.
Yeah.
Cause a F-150 Raptor with an eco boost is 450 horsepower.
Yeah.
And it starts right there.
We're looking at one on the screen, the price down at the bottom.
It says 82,795 ish.
And the RHO is 540 horsepower.
It starts at about 75.
Yeah.
So they're under extra horsepower and lower price once again.
Yeah.
So Ram is being very aggressive here with high horsepower and pricing as well.
Yeah.
And to be fair, none of these trucks are really lacking in horsepower in any
respect.
It's not like the Ford products feel slow at all, but it is a cool strategy.
Given more horsepower for less money, I'm not mad about.
Yeah.
So they took care of the air.
So, so the air is there, you know, the intake on the TRX.
The fuel pressure is there.
That's a good color.
Yeah.
That's called Serrano green.
Yeah.
They had one also at the event in this color, but you see how it kind of changes
color depending on your angle.
It's not going to be good for the people that are listening to this podcast.
But yeah, it looks like they're offering a really nice shade of green on the TRX,
which I like, although it's got red accents.
So it looks a little bit like Christmas, but that's okay.
You know, we're subtle red.
Most of us, you know, all of us like Christmas, but maybe not every day, not
every day, not in July.
So the torque is also up.
It was a 640 pound feet and now it's 680 pound feet of torque.
So this and they redesigned the logo.
Now the head of a dinosaur, the TRX is now next to the TRX logo.
It's basically built into the same logo.
So Ram is kind of answering because a lot of folks were kind of adding their
own dinosaur images to their trucks.
So now this is coming officially from Ram.
If I had to guess, I would imagine part of the reason that they're not aiming
for 37s on this truck is one for overall strain on the drive line because that
amount of power and that amount of torque through a tire with a pretty massive
diameter is going to put a lot of strain on the drive line.
Yeah, axles included everything.
Yes, they also advertise top speed, 118 miles per hour.
And of course, zero to 60 and acceleration in these trucks is important.
And trying to run 37s is going to have an impact on all of that as well.
Yeah.
So they're listing three and a half seconds, zero to 60 and 12.2 second quarter mile.
So you're absolutely right.
But look at the ground clearance, especially if you look at this truck
in profile view, it still has almost 12 inches of ground clearance,
which is a substantial amount.
Yes, of course, the Raptor R and 37s has more ground clearance.
But also what about like daily comfort, right?
You don't have to have a ladder to climb into this truck.
So this truck maybe strikes a good balance.
And I think maybe Ford could go down in size just a little bit
and or offer a different version of the Raptor R, you know,
where you could kind of step down to a smaller tire and have more performance.
And ultimately, a lot of people are driving these trucks on the street anyway.
I still think it would be great to have an option for 37s from the factory
because these trucks are all about the biggest, baddest numbers and showing off.
An image, yes.
And if you have 37s, that's for most people shopping around for these trucks,
you probably prefer that.
But to be fair, most of these trucks are probably spending most of their time
on the street, if we were to look at the numbers.
And that's also why I love the fact that they're going in the rumblebee direction.
Yeah, which is coming for the street.
And then they did mention they took some of the components for the engine,
this new TRX engine from the old Red Eye engines.
So remember those challengers and chargers with the Red Eye option,
which was higher output, higher output, more around 800.
I think it was like 797 or 800 horsepower.
So, of course, not everything came across.
You know, just it wasn't a copy and paste.
It's just just that we're using some of the components and some of the technology.
The truck has to have a different intake, different exhaust, different cooling
and different mapping because it's a truck.
Yeah, it's a way different application.
So nothing is going to be all completely the same.
That's that's why a regular TRX had seven under two horsepower
and a Hellcat generally had 707.
Yeah, or 710 in some cases, like the Durango, right?
Yeah, because the Durango SRT is still around.
You know what I was thinking when I was at this event?
Remember the final edition TRXes in 2024?
Yeah. What do you think some of those owners are thinking right now?
Not the final TRXes.
Yeah, not happy thoughts.
And that's happened quite a bit because the same thing with with the Durango,
right, they said that it was about the final Durango.
Yes.
And then it came back, which a lot of people like ourselves are happy about
because that means we still get to drive them, test them.
Yeah.
But for those folks that paid extra money to have something
that was supposed to be the swan song, it was going to be the end of the run.
And then they came back.
Yeah, I guess there's still value there.
I mean, 20 or 30 years from now, those special additions
might hold some value, right?
But it has an impact on the value.
But definitely has an impact on the value because there is more supply
and potentially more, more attractive supply, right?
Because higher horsepower, higher torque.
And I learned a lot about different options for the TRX.
So they had several different models.
I think there was like, gosh, there's maybe 10 trucks at this event.
This is the first drive.
And the reason why they picked South Bend, Indiana,
is because there is a motor sports park, which is pretty famous.
I've never been actually there until this time.
It's called Redbud.
And they're having a giant motocross celebration for July 4th.
There was setting up.
There was like giant trucks with Honda HRC motor sports, you know,
coming out and Husqvarna and every every brand bikes.
Yeah, every brand of dirt bike was there.
They're preparing for this event.
And what Ram and the park did, they cut a course
through one of the fields with jumps so you can kind of experience
this truck at higher speed and also doing two different types of jumps as well.
Which is going to be a lot of fun to watch when the embargo lifts
and that video comes out, which is only a couple of few days from now.
It's July 7th, so that's going to be next week.
And manufacturers do this because they want to be fair to
Oh, where's Cases Cuban?
Oh, that must be Tommy.
No, Tommy is commenting, asking where my Cuban link is.
I keep telling Tommy that I think he should do a mullet in a Cuban link,
maybe a neck tattoo.
Yeah, it would be a little bit of a rebrand for him.
That's not his current style, but I would say it'd be good.
I don't have a Cuban link.
I have a chain of sorts, but it's not a Cuban link.
We also have Kyle Abernathy saying,
afternoon, gentlemen, first time watching live.
Very nice.
Kyle, thank you for joining us this time.
Hope you guys are all staying cool.
And Elliot is here.
Elliot has been here on live shows before.
Yeah, he's saying, if rumors are true, I'll wait for an SS.
But not going to lie, as much as I dislike, the Rumblebee is nice.
It is nice.
Love the extended cab too.
Four-door chunky overweight trucks does not denote sport,
which is an interesting point because I think a lot of people are
maybe a little iffy on the extended cab as opposed to a full crew cab.
Because if you look at the sales numbers, most people are buying full crew cabs.
That's what the TRX is.
Yeah, but that's what the Raptor is.
The Rumblebees, the street trucks are going to be.
Well, they're going to be different.
It's going to be a smaller cab.
They're going to be shorter cab.
Yeah, the rear doors are shorter.
They're called quads in RAM, kind of marketing terms.
And I think I liked what CEO Tim Kaniska said about this,
is that it's kind of an excuse when you talk to the misses,
right, because we're assuming mostly guys would want to buy these.
I'm trying the stats to support that.
But when you're talking to your spouse and you're saying, hey, it has four doors.
It's practical.
So it's very practical.
It's also quick, you know, so you can accelerate onto the highway,
you know, in a very nice way.
So it has four doors in a pinch.
But if you look at the street trucks that Ford has sold a lot of,
five-o coyote trucks that people put all kinds of crazy power adders on
and make some beastly custom trucks out of, they're all single cabs.
Pretty much all.
There's plenty of people still hot rotting crew cab trucks.
But the image that pops into most our minds when we think of an F-150
with a coyote that somebody's hot rotted, it's a single cab truck.
This kind of splits the difference in a way that I think will be useful.
And and to Elliot's comment, we're looking at some of the specs on the
Rumblebee trucks, by the way, using the same Hellcat engine as well in the SRT
Rumblebee, but it's gaining better times, quarter mile times, better acceleration
times in the zero to 60 way higher top speed and the way higher
type speed top speed and trucks is governed by tires.
Yeah.
So mostly, I mean, the TRX could go very fast, but the tires would probably
tear themselves to pieces at some of those speeds because they're bigger
diameter tires and not meant for that.
Yeah.
That's why it's limited to 118.
What they're saying about the fastest of the Rumblebees is 170 miles per
hour, which that's what they want to hit.
It's pretty nuts.
They're yeah, they're also saying in 11.6 second quarter mile and 3.4 seconds
to 60, which is these trucks are not like weights though.
These trucks are even, even the Rumblebees are not light.
The TRX is a, is a hefty vehicle.
Yeah.
You said it's almost 7,000 pounds.
Yeah.
So a lot of the trucks we were driving, I wanted to get back to the options
available on the TRX.
A lot of the trucks we were driving, unfortunately had to run a thousand
pounds of payload, which is not a great amount of payload, but their gross
vehicle weight ratings are about 7,800.
And some of the trucks I saw had 900 pounds of payload with the options.
So we're talking about a 6,900 pound truck.
Yeah.
Accelerating at three and a half seconds, zero to 60.
That's a porky truck.
These trucks are monsters.
Yeah, definitely heavy.
I'm, they're not targeting these trucks being lightweight.
So it's not a surprise, but they added extra carbon fiber to the interior.
Great.
Yeah.
I'm sure that makes it much lighter.
No, no, it makes it.
Nothing makes a vehicle light like adding carbon fiber to it.
You know, because you're, you're adding, not making any structural or
fundamental part of the vehicle out of carbon fiber.
But a great example is when you take a big Bentley or Rolls Royce and give
it carbon fiber trim on the interior.
Great.
That's what's happening with the TRX as well.
So light, but it's also attractive.
Did it actually have carbon fiber in it?
Yes.
Oh, that kills me.
It's a 7,000 pound truck.
Why does it have carbon fiber?
Put wood or aluminum or something in it.
Carbon fiber in it.
I don't know if, if long horn wood has a place in the TRX.
It doesn't have to be long horn wood, but like brushed aluminum looks and feels
nice because at the end of the day, carbon fiber has a purpose in some vehicles.
Yes.
In some vehicles.
Well, like body panels could be made out of carbon fiber.
Yeah.
Carbon fiber monocoque chassis like BMW i8 that's up at the ranch.
Yes.
But that actually serves a purpose.
Carbon fiber at the end of the day is to some extent, people will be mad to hear
me say this, but it is in some ways fancy plastic.
And that's how it feels to the touch.
And brushed aluminum feels really nice and still looks sporty.
Brushed aluminum has a different quality when you touch it because it's cooler
because it's a metal.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, cooler to the touch.
Wow, you call carbon fiber plastic.
Okay, but here's the thing.
Carbon fiber could be a type of plastic, but it has certain qualities.
Yes.
It's strong because it could be very structural, which is great for the
structural portions of your dash trim.
That's correct.
Yes.
And it's also lightweight for the strength it offers.
I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that wants to die on this hill because I obviously
there's carbon fiber in a ton of cars that will weigh well in excess of 5,000 pounds.
But yes, how much I'm sure the new BMW M5s and the M5 touring has lots of carbon
fiber, which is why it only weighs 5,800 pounds.
Yeah, only weighs more than a Tahoe, doesn't it?
I think so.
I think some trim levels.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure in five touring weighs more than a Tahoe.
But listen to this case, the special edition, the bloodshot night edition of
the TRX has special carbon fiber, where they interwoven red carbon fiber with
black carbon fiber.
Good news.
By the way, those are TFL colors.
They are red and black.
That's true.
Would you, do you think we should buy one of these trucks?
No.
I think we should get a Cummins Power Wagon.
We've had a TRX.
Yes, we did have a TRX.
Yeah, I just can't convince anybody around here to get a Cummins Power Wagon.
They won't do it.
Still, you're working on it still.
We're still talking.
Maybe I'll wear, wear you guys down.
Well, it's not you so much.
It's mostly Roman.
Yeah, I got to document.
Money comes from, money comes from Roman.
Yeah.
Well, it's, it's, it's, here's what it's about.
Um, it's about like news value for us when we buy a truck.
So, so for example, like the new Chevy Silverado 1500 has a new engine that's
never been around or two engines has two new engines.
So, so they have new style, new design, new engine, new powertrain.
That has a little bit more news value.
I mean, the TRX has an updated engine.
Wow, we have a lot of people today.
Um, but it's also very, very expensive at over a hundred K.
It is, uh, but here's the thing.
I think we should probably get one of the new Silverado's test at the new
engine because that's going to be important coverage for us.
But we always have to have a heavy duty truck around because sometimes we're
not necessarily filming whatever vehicle we're towing with, but we do just need
a tow cross country through the mountains, steep grades, pretty heavy trailers.
For example, our colleague Grant has a project going on next week and he's
using the Silverado heavy duty to tow 10,000 pounds.
Yeah.
So he's got a big trailer of, um, so we, we always his, his boats.
We always keep around a heavy duty truck as a shop truck.
And the most newsworthy HD on the horizon is that Cummins power wagon.
So Roman, are you listening?
There you go.
I don't know if we're listening.
We made, yeah, probably not.
He's on vacation.
So I, he's in Florida.
He's enjoying his in Florida this week.
Yeah.
Not listening to us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's, let's hope he can enjoy.
Um, so yeah.
So now some options, right?
So because I was led to believe like the original event that there was only like
two ways to get a TRX, either get the TRX or the bloodshot night, right?
But there's actually a little bit more variants.
First of all, there's, I believe eight colors, eight different exterior colors.
And also the new Spitfire, which is kind of dark orange.
They're calling it Spitfire color is coming a little bit later online, but
they do have that molten red, that green we showed, they have a white and a black
and I think kind of a molten blue, which is a dark blue and also silver.
So they have, but they don't have like bright greens or highlighter yellows.
Yeah.
Nothing crazy, nothing crazy, but crazy stuff might come later.
Remember how the original TRX, they started calm and then
crazy colors kept coming, you know, in, in, in subsequent years.
Hard for me to imagine buying a truck as wild as a TRX and getting it in, in
some high-level kind of color.
Oh, gray scale.
No, I would want a bright color.
Oh yeah, I would too.
Like red, for example.
Yeah, totally.
Great color.
Or the purple that's on that Wrangler Moab that I like.
Yes.
Purple TRX sounds pretty cool to me.
But how do you feel, Cole, can you show us an image of that red and black
truck again, the Bloodshot Knight?
I wanted you, how do you feel about the graphics?
Because I'm not a big fan.
Yeah, no, I'm with you.
The side graphics.
So the Bloodshot Knight version of this truck, if you're just listening
along, it's two-tone, so the top of the cab and the rockers are in black.
It's just a center stripe of the truck that's red, but the center stripe of
the truck in red has a pretty massive and busy graphic going through it all
the way from the back of the front doors to the top rear corner of the bed.
So it's a big graphic.
It takes up a lot of the red painted portion of the truck.
And just overall, between this being a two-tone truck already between red and
black and having that massive graphic on the side, it looks busy to me.
So that would not be my pick.
I would agree, but I do love the two-tone roof.
So I don't know how to ram.
Can we meet in the middle?
Can we get a two-tone truck but without the graphic?
Because it's supposed to simulate mud flying.
Right.
You know, like a little bit of mud spraying on a, not a little bit, a lot
of the mud spraying on the side of the truck, but it just feels not in play.
If you play your cards right, you don't have to simulate the mud on the side of
the truck. It's going to be real.
But to me, that style of two-tone that has a, a stripe of one color in the
middle and everything above the belt line and, and from the rocker down in
a different color, that to me is, is more of kind of an old school retro and
maybe luxury truck way of doing a two-tone.
So on an off-road truck, it wouldn't be my first pick.
I think just a solid color or having most of the truck be a solid color and
do black from the rocker down looks good.
So that, that would be how I spec it, but you don't have to do what I would do.
That's part of the fun of buying your own truck.
Exactly.
So you can get a standard version of the TRX in the, what, eight different
colors and then you could add a couple of other graphics.
So there is like a blackout hood graphic, you know, kind of a matte looking hood
graphic, which is kind of cool, especially the white color they have.
The, with the black graphics, it kind of looks stormtrooper-y, you know,
which is, which I don't know if we can have an image here because we're
editing a video where I drove.
Oh, actually on the left, there are, has that blacked out hood.
So that's kind of what it looks like.
Um, and then you could get, um, obviously kind of a smaller little accessories,
but you got decals down there to the right goal.
If you want to, oh yeah.
Hood graphics.
Yes.
So you can kind of see some of the top, the top portion of the hood.
It's hard to see in these graphics, but, um, it's blacked out.
Um, then you can get a beadlock capable wheels, which is actually a pretty hefty,
uh, price.
I believe it's about $2,700 to swap the standard wheels for the, um, yeah,
right there, same price as an RHO.
Uh, those 18 inch, um, $26, $95, that's what they cost.
But you know, I would do it.
If I'm spending a hundred and two grand already, I would want to make the
truck, it's like buying a nice shoe, like a nice boot for your vehicle.
Um, I would, I think I would go because it's also functional.
You could turn those beadlock rings and turn them functionally into, you know,
so you can air down.
Oh, it's a useful thing to have.
And again, if, yeah, if you're spending over $100,000 on a truck, uh, argue
that another 2,700 bucks is probably not going to break the bank for most
people in that price category.
Then the other option, you could choose a panoramic sunroof or not.
And this is, I was kind of teeter tottering on, should I get it?
Should I not get it?
If I was buying one, I kind of landed on not because I'm thinking like more
performance is better, like cause this sunroof adds weight and also the
weight is up high.
You know what I'm saying?
I think I would add the sunroof.
Just go all in.
Uh, cause to me that truck is as much of a luxury item as it is anything else.
It's not, it's not a track car.
I'm not sure that the weight distribution and, and an extra 200 pounds or
whatever it is on a 7,000 pound pickup truck is going to kill it.
That's fair.
And I like, especially like, like we were today, we were driving an off-road
trail.
We had the sunroof open cause it was really nice outside.
If you're in a beautiful environment like that, it's kind of nice to open
things up a little bit.
Okay.
So I think maybe we're in a little bit different sides of that.
Uh, but, um, there's a couple of other things you could get, like, uh, all of
them come bed lined.
Thank goodness, because I would hate to get a TRX with the bed liner.
With a naked bed.
Yeah.
Then of course, tunnel covers are available.
Then also power export, but they only have the 400 Watts still.
Yeah.
Ram, come on.
I mean, you could do better.
I mean, other manufacturers are doing like two kilowatt, uh, export features.
Just across the board, not necessarily in a TRX, but in general,
in all of their trucks, they should have more availability of that.
Um, you can get, um, cleat rails, you know, where you can move your tie-downs
in the bed, um, and the toes, 8,100 pounds, which is a little bit less than
before and also less than the Raptor are.
But I think this truck is not really meant as a tow rig.
Um, 8,100 pounds is still quite a lot.
Yeah.
So you can move most boats, decent sized boats.
You can move most equipment trailer.
I don't know how many people are buying a TRX to move an equipment trailer,
but you and I will.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And a reasonably sized equipment trailer, you'd be fine.
You could haul around another car, especially if you've got a reasonably
light aluminum trailer.
You could tow your Viper to the track, which would be that would be a cool
combo Viper on a trailer behind a TRX.
That would be a sweet Viper on a trailer behind a rumble bee would be pretty cool.
Oof.
That, that would be also very, very super.
Have they said anything about towing figures on those trucks?
I don't remember.
Cole, can you, can you Google, um, 20, 27 rumble bee towing?
I think it's similar to the TRX probably because they're both kind of have similar
power trains.
They both have different.
Oh, higher.
8,900 pounds.
According to almost.
Yeah.
No, no, that sounds right.
I remember that.
I remember that now.
So there is a lot of numbers in my head floating around, but, but that sounds right.
8,900 pounds for the rumble bee, uh, which is, which is quite a, quite a bit actually.
That's solid.
Yeah.
I would be happy with that amount to tow your Viper behind.
Yes.
Once all I, all I need is the money for the rumble bee, the money for the trailer and the
money for the Viper and places to store them and places to take them.
Yes.
So I'm, I'm almost there.
Nice.
I think the rumble bee also as they added a carbon fiber to it to make it.
Right.
Mm hmm.
Wonderful.
I'll, I'll get the one without.
So the other thing that they're doing now on these trucks, um, everything is leather wrapped on
these premium trucks, the SRTs.
Leather is good.
Including the horn button.
Do you see this?
Oh, nice.
The horn button, the center of the steering wheel is really nice.
You know, it looks nice.
It feels good.
The seats obviously are, you know, TRX seats and they're pretty supportive.
What, once you get in and, um, I think they're one of the best interiors still, um, as far as
just quality and appearance.
It's even better than the interior on my second gen.
Wow.
Actually, your second gen still has a dashboard, which is really impressive.
Yeah.
My second gen is nice.
Yeah.
Mint.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, and then just thinking through the list of the options.
Um, so those are the, the biggest things you could change is really the wheels.
Yes.
The panoramic sunroof and then the colors, but everything else, the interior is one way.
So like, you don't have to like worry about, you know, different trim levels or colors on
the interior.
It's very simple.
You just order it, choose the exterior color and maybe a couple of options and you're
off to the races.
They're highly optioned trucks regardless because they're meant to be premium as they
should be for $100,000.
If it's going to cost that amount, it should have pretty much all the major features that
you would want to spec a truck with side for a few that they would make optional extras.
Back when we got our TRX when it first came out, that truck was a little bit more basic.
It had things like.
Oh, a lot more basic actually.
You actually had to hit unlock on the key.
Instead of just coming up to the door and grabbing the handle.
So can you imagine hitting unlock on the key?
Yeah, it wasn't the end of the world, but there were just a few areas where it was a
little bit more basic.
So we added a couple of things to our original TRX.
I think like the towing package was one of the things included trailer backup assist
feature, which was new back then, which we wanted to try out.
We haven't used it much since, but the assist feature was there.
And I think I'm not sure exactly what we added.
Maybe the rail system for the bed and a tunnel cover.
And I think it came out to about 76 or 77,000 back then, which is a far cry from 102,000,
which it is now.
But remember, our buddy Shane bought even more basic TRX and we did a video together
where we went drag racing together.
And his was like 73,000.
Like that was the bottom.
I can't believe that dude.
Five years ago, a TRX was 73,000 dollars.
I know.
Yeah.
So now starting at 100 grand, but again, just to help.
It's a different time now to help ease the blow.
It's a different time, but they also make more power and they're better equipped now.
So that helps make up some of that difference.
Yeah.
But definitely.
And I think what was happening and I mean, I'm not trying to defend, you know,
what Ram is doing, whatever, you know, pricing they have, but is a lot of folks.
And I have a one of them on Ronys here.
A lot of folks actually were optioning premium features on the TRX.
If everybody bought base TRX, they would offer more of them probably, right?
Yeah.
But if everybody was choosing, you know, special seats and leather and, you know,
sunroofs and all these things, the manufacturers like, well, people like nice things because
it's probably somebody successful.
They want to congratulate themselves.
They're buying something nice.
So that's kind of where it's going.
Because if you're again, if you're buying a truck that's that expensive,
adding the price of a couple extra features is probably not going to break the bank.
Plus, I think a lot of folks that are buying these trucks are leasing them.
So when you add in a few optional extras, your monthly payment doesn't increase by that much.
And if you're buying one of these vehicles in cash,
then you're doing good already.
Hella flush.
You're fine.
You could probably get the keyless entry in a sunroof.
And you could probably also afford the fuel efficiency or lack thereof,
because it's rated at 10 MPG city, 14 MPG highway, and 12 MPG combined.
Yeah, yeah, which is not grand, but yeah, you know, that's the price you pay.
But actually, that's not far off.
The Raptor R is rated almost the same, except the Raptor R,
I think is rated at 15 highway, not 14, but very, very close.
I mean, when we're talking about these types of engines with high pressure fuel pumps
that are pumping seven bar of fuel up there and you sucking down all the air and making horsepower.
I don't think fuel economy was ever in the in the conversation.
No, because, well, I was going to say they have other efficient trucks, but most of their trucks,
I actually didn't have a hybrid right now, which is where I think they're missing.
Yeah, because GM has electric lineup of electric Silverado Sierras.
GM doesn't have any hybrids right now.
Then Ford has hybrid, but did away with the light.
Did let the, you know, cancel the lightning, at least for now.
Toyota has a hybrid, but their hybrid is not very efficiency minded.
So Ram, I guess they could offer a little bit more efficient options in the future.
I guess that's what I would like.
Yeah, I would say that's, it's kind of a blind spot in their lineup.
So that would be a good thing to mix in.
And it's also, it's not just about money, but it's also convenience, right?
If you think about, all right, you have a 30 with three gallon tank and you're getting 10 MPG,
you could not, you know, you would have to stop.
Let's say you're doing a road trip.
Maybe you're pulling a small trailer and your MPG is actually less.
You will have to stop a lot in order to just refuel and refuel and refuel.
Even though it doesn't take a lot of time, but you still, you still have to stop.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's a good point.
Yeah, so the TRX is going to be exciting to see in action.
Now we do have some other news on the Ford front because they've been talking a lot about
their upcoming small electric pickup truck, which they're saying is really going to revolutionize
things.
And it doesn't even have a name.
Yeah, it does.
It's so new.
But they're talking a big game about it.
Yeah, I think it's at the very top, Cole.
Yeah.
So it's, they're calling the platform universal EV platform.
So you EV.
And I decided to play around a little bit because I was bored on the plane yesterday.
And gosh, it was so hot, dude.
We were flying this short stint between Chicago and South Bend.
And I wish I would have drove those planes were anyways.
So I was playing around online and we have spy images, not just spy images.
The image you see here, if you're watching is actual published video clip from Ford.
So they actually published this clip.
Yeah, they're teasing it themselves, but there are also spy photos of this prototype truck,
camouflage truck being tested.
And you did something interesting because we know the wheel diameter on this truck is a 20, right?
Yeah.
So thanks to our friends at the Atopian.
So David Tracy and team, they captured the original prototype with several weeks back.
And their camera was so high definition.
Thank you, David, that they saw the the spec of the tire on the tire.
And it was a 20 inch wheel, which is actually kind of big for a truck like that.
Seems a little unnecessary if they're targeting making a very affordable truck.
Yeah.
But because we know the wheel size, you were able to use a little bit of trickery to estimate
the actual size of the truck itself.
Yeah.
And actually David and team, they did their own trickery.
They were also kind of looking into the subject.
And then, but I was lazy.
So I was on the plane.
I was really hot.
There was no air conditioning.
And I asked Gemini, Google's AI to estimate the length and the size of this truck.
And so, and it did something that it called a pixel ratio analysis.
It determined the number of pixels that the wheel was wide.
And they extrapolated it to the entire size of the vehicle in terms of pixels.
And it told me that this truck could be 181 inches long, which is 18 inches shorter than
the Maverick.
Wow.
Foot and a half shorter.
A foot and a half shorter than the Maverick.
But here's a trick.
The wheelbase was estimated at 121, which is identical to the Maverick.
Interesting.
But they're not going to be on the same platform.
No, not at all.
We know that for sure.
And it's interesting too.
And Ford is going to be testing out a lot of new things with this pickup truck to try
and make it more affordable and more inexpensive for them to manufacture.
So they're changing up their production line.
It's they've talked about it a little bit, but not in detail.
So when this truck actually comes out, it'll be interesting to see more of the specifics
of what they're going to do to try and reduce costs on manufacturing this truck.
And what the price of this truck coming out is actually going to be.
Because one of the great things about the Maverick when it came out is that you could
buy one for under $20,000.
That's not the case now.
That's not, no.
It starts almost $10,000 more expensive than when it used to be.
It's high 20s.
So if they can come out with this truck and do something similar to what the Maverick did
when it first came out, then it has the potential to be really appealing.
Yeah, but it makes me wonder now, right?
Because they initially called it the midsize.
So I expected it to be almost identical in size to the Ranger, but that's not the case.
But it kind of makes sense because you would say under using AI, it's always usually wrong,
right?
I mean, it's not very precise.
Plus you're using a snapshot of an image of a clip.
It's not a real truck.
It's not the real deal.
But what did make sense to me is that an electric vehicle needs space in the middle
for the battery, right?
So it kind of made sense in my mind if it's 121 inches, which is basically what the Maverick is,
it's a fairly long wheelbase for the size of the vehicle.
But that's where the battery lives, right?
It lives in the floor between those points.
So that kind of makes sense.
Having a short overhang in the front kind of makes sense because it's kind of a city vehicle, right?
So you need to have good turning radius, good maneuverability, good visibility.
That makes sense.
Now it has to have a bed, right?
Because it's trying to be a truck because we have no idea about its payload or any other specs.
And they also have this weird black cover on the back of the cab,
which made people think it may have a midgate.
So it might have actually more bed space than we anticipate.
But nonetheless, you have to make the rear end longer to accommodate for the bed.
It's certainly something that we've noticed in either multiple prototypes or the same
prototype camouflage in different ways.
But they're doing a lot to try and mask the back of the cab.
So whether that's for something like a midgate or potentially a little trickery that they're using
to change up the aerodynamics of this truck to improve its range, we're not sure yet.
But it seems like they might be doing something special with the back of the cab.
And of course, the whole rest of the truck is pretty heavily camouflaged.
So as much as it looks like, we can see the general shape and silhouette of this truck.
There's a lot that we don't know about it.
And there's plenty that they're very likely doing to change the overall shape of this truck
so that we don't yet know what it looks like.
But what we do know is that it is very low profile.
So it's not going to be very trucky in the traditional sense.
It's not going to be a raptor.
No, it's not going to have a giant tall hood like what you find now, even on F-150s,
even a Ranger has a very tall hood.
So this is not going to be like that.
This is probably going to be even less boxy and less trucky than a Maverick.
I don't know if it'll go quite as curvy as like a Santa Cruz, for example.
Santa Cruz is being discontinued out of this year.
So I guess boxy is better because if you want to be kind of a little truck,
I guess a little bit more macho, a little bit more boxy proportions would be better.
But the windshield rake is pretty intense because it's trying to be aerodynamic.
And the greenhouse is very small, so you don't have a tall cab either.
So this truck is certainly not going to be very boxy, if at all.
Maybe some of the specific styling, maybe the grille, maybe the back of the bed
will be a little bit on the boxy side to try and give it more of a masculine look.
But at this point, you know, it's pretty much impossible to get a good feel for
how this truck is going to end up visually.
But hopefully soon we get more indication with this vehicle.
It should be coming out being revealed in 2027.
I think they said on sale in 2027.
So we're I'm expecting to reveal even late this year, maybe late this year.
I think the best place to reveal this is Los Angeles Auto Show probably
because LA would be probably a big customer for one of these things.
Because, you know, you have small little compact pickup, you know,
which is efficient and electric and it could around around town.
So that could be a great place.
I also did an estimation of the width of this truck
because there was a different shot showing the license plate.
I used the pixels in the license plate to estimate the width of it.
And it was about 73 inches, which is the same as the Ranger and the Maverick.
They're actually about the same width, which is kind of surprising.
But I think shoulder to shoulder, like we don't want to be sitting on top of each other.
So I think that's a smart way to do it.
Yeah, I don't think it's going to be quite as radical of a design
as like the Slate or especially the Tello,
which are going to pretty extreme lengths to make more compact.
And especially in the Tello,
they're aiming for as compact of a truck as possible.
And almost no hood, right?
Exactly. Yeah, that's it's yeah, got a very flat nose.
And then in the Slate, they're they're going pretty extreme
to make that truck as affordable as possible.
This Ford seems like it's going to be a more standard pickup truck configuration
that is a proven formula for more people to buy.
So it'll be interesting definitely coming up.
There's going to be a lot of trucks for us to test.
Exactly. It's going to be very exciting.
So yeah, so so that's kind of the news.
I mean, there's not a ton of truck news because we were looking at
let's look at a couple more comments maybe because we're you and I
there was a lot of action from GM, right?
The new Silverado feeling on being unveiled,
then the new Sierra feeling on being unveiled.
So we we already took care of a lot of those news.
So now in July, coming up after the fourth,
by the way, happy upcoming weekend to everybody.
After the fourth, I'm expecting to hear a lot more news as well.
Yeah.
And maybe actually get in person with some of these trucks as well.
And again, the actual driving footage from the TRX event,
that's going to be right after the holiday weekend,
which will be worth watching because as much as we like talking about
cool trucks, videos of them actually driving, going off road,
making cool noises is admittedly probably more entertaining.
Yeah. And I just wanted to mention Elliott's comment about
he said he was waiting for an SS.
I'm assuming he means Silverado SS,
which was a truck from the past, obviously,
in various iterations.
Yeah, because he's saying that he had a 454 SS,
which is really cool.
Yes.
Those are awesome.
Yes. So I actually had the same mindset as Elliott
because I was kind of playing with my AI image generator about
what what refuel lowered the Silverado and made it into a support truck.
But here's the thing about Silverado.
GM still hasn't built a Raptor competitor or a TRX competitor.
Will they go as much as do SS?
If they haven't done the off-roading, you know, halo truck,
will they do a sport halo truck?
And I don't know if that's likely right now.
Yeah, it just doesn't seem like they need to
because they sell so many Silverados and Sierra's already like you
necessarily need a flagship to get people in through the dealer door
because they're moving trucks.
I hope it changes.
I hope that changes because as enthusiasts,
we would like to see it.
So yeah, definitely.
Because the more options, the better.
I mean, maybe a lowered sport truck is not for everybody, obviously,
but it's nice to have some options.
Yeah, and they they sell enough trucks to spend the money on the R&D to do it.
So I think they should just I'm sure they can afford it.
I mean, look at Toyota, you know, how many versions of the coma exist?
I mean, to the end degree.
So the same thing could be available with with GM.
So yeah, thank you for joining us on this episode.
This kind of pre holiday July 4th episode.
We're talking about big horsepower, really cool trucks and more to come
because the TRX video is coming dropping right after the fourth on the seventh.
And then the comments power wagon video will drop soon after that,
you know, the actual driving one.
And then eventually, Rumblebee's also eventually Silverado and Sierra Drive events
at some point.
So yeah, we've got a lot to look forward to.
Yeah.
And maybe even gosh, maybe we'll learn what the Ford is going to call their little
trucklet.
Yeah, some some people are theorizing Ranchero.
Yes.
But I don't know if they're going to go that route.
It's not like the Ranchero and Sierra Lea is a name that's spoken about a lot today.
No.
And also, well, maybe that's good because Ranchero was really a car with the bed.
But this new truck, you could argue has a little bit more maybe truckiness to it.
But you could also argue that it's a car with the bed.
Yeah.
So you could go either way.
We'll see.
We'll see what they do.
All right.
Thanks for joining us as always.
And thanks for interacting with us on.
Thank you, Kyle.
Kyle is here too.
Yeah.
Thank you for joining us.
And we'll see you next week with lots more news.
About this episode
Ram is shaking up the off-road truck market with the return of the TRX, boasting a massive 775 horsepower to outclass the Ford Raptor R. Hosts Kase and Andre dive into the mechanical upgrades of the supercharged 6.2-liter Hellcat V8, including increased fuel pressure and a redesigned air intake. They also compare Ram's aggressive pricing strategy against Ford's lineup, debate the styling differences between the TRX and the RHO, and share a sneak peek at the upcoming Cummins Power Wagon.
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( https://www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! The high-performance truck wars have officially hit a boiling point as the guys welcome back an absolute monster to the off-road scene. Fresh off an exclusive first-look event in South Bend, Indiana, Andre and Kase break down the triumphant return of the heavily updated Ram TRX. The engineers at SRT thoroughly reworked the legendary supercharged V8 engine, boosting it to a staggering 777 horsepower to comfortably leapfrog its main competitor. The duo debates the truck's mind-boggling new performance stats, its premium leather-wrapped interior upgrades, and the soaring sticker price compared to the heavily optioned base models they used to own.
Beyond the dirt-shredding TRX, the team dives into Ram's increasingly aggressive strategy to dominate both the off-road and street-performance truck markets. Andre shares a few secret, unofficial details about a highly anticipated heavy-duty diesel model that was sneaking around the event, while the guys also look at the street-focused Rumble Bee edition, which utilizes that same supercharged powertrain to achieve an eye-watering top speed of 170 mph. Wrapping things up with a live Patreon Q&A, they clash over whether fancy interior trim materials belong in a heavy utility vehicle, discuss the real-world utility of a panoramic sunroof out on the trail, and analyze how the brand's bold strategy is putting serious pressure on the competition.
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