The Reality Of Getting Into Racing
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Petit Le Mans
Petit Le Mans is a long car race that happens every year in the U.S. It features different types of race cars and is known for being very challenging because of the track's design.
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competitive drifting
Competitive drifting is a type of car racing where drivers make their cars slide sideways around corners. It's judged on how well they control the slide and how stylish it looks.
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ALMS
ALMS is a racing series in the United States that included different types of sports cars. It was popular for many years and was connected to a famous race in France called the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
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European Le Mans series
The European Le Mans Series is a type of car racing where teams race for long periods, usually several hours. It includes different classes of cars, and it's known for its exciting and competitive events.
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ACO
The ACO is a group that organizes famous car races, including the 24-hour race in Le Mans, France. They help set the rules and manage the events for endurance racing.
Company
Panoz
Panoz is a company that makes sports cars and racing cars in the United States. They are famous for their unique designs and participation in car races.
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multi-class endurance race
A multi-class endurance race is a long car race where different kinds of cars race at the same time. It challenges drivers and teams to manage their speed and strategy over many hours.
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Formula One
Formula One is a top-level car racing series where the fastest cars compete in various races around the world. It's famous for its exciting races and advanced car technology.
Car
Chevrolet Camaro
The Camaro is a sports car made by Chevrolet. It's known for being fast and stylish, and it's a favorite among car enthusiasts.
Company
Brembo
Brembo is a company that makes brakes for cars, especially high-performance ones. They are well-known for their reliable and effective braking systems.
Part
carbon ceramic
Carbon ceramic brakes are a special kind of brakes made from strong materials that help cars stop better and handle heat well, especially during fast driving.
Term
slotted or drilled rotors
Slotted and drilled rotors are special designs for brake discs that help them cool down better and work more effectively, especially during hard braking.
Part
slotted rotor
Slotted rotors are brake parts with grooves on them. These grooves help the brakes work better by letting heat and dust escape, making them good for performance driving.
Part
brake rotors
Brake rotors are round metal discs that help your car stop when you press the brake pedal. They work with brake pads to create friction, which slows down the wheels. Some rotors have special designs to help keep them cool and clean.
Car
Aston Martin Valkyrie
The Aston Martin Valkyrie is a super-fast car made by Aston Martin. It's designed for high performance and combines a powerful engine with electric technology to go really fast.
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Laguna Seca
Laguna Seca is a well-known racetrack in California where cars and motorcycles race. It's famous for its tricky turns, especially one called the Corkscrew.
Term
GTD Pro
GTD Pro is a more advanced version of the GTD race car. It has better technology and is often driven by professional racers in competitions.
Car
Ford Mustang GTD
The Ford Mustang GTD is a special version of the Mustang sports car that is built for racing and high performance.
Car
Ferrari 296
The Ferrari 296 is a new sports car from Ferrari that uses both a gas engine and electric power to go faster and save fuel.
Car
Chevrolet Corvette
The Chevrolet Corvette is a famous sports car from America that is known for being fast and stylish.
Car
Porsche 911
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LMP
LMP means Le Mans Prototype, which are special race cars made for long-distance racing events.
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GTP class
GTP class is a type of racing category where very fast and advanced cars compete. They are built for speed and handling on race tracks.
Car
Porsche 963
The Porsche 963 is a special racing car made by Porsche for competing in endurance races. It is built to be very fast and handle well on the track.
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naturally aspirated
A naturally aspirated engine gets air for combustion from the atmosphere, without any extra help from devices like turbochargers. This can make the engine feel more responsive when you press the gas pedal.
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hybrid system
A hybrid system uses both a regular engine and an electric motor to make the car more efficient and powerful. It can save fuel and help the car go faster when needed.
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torque vectoring
Torque vectoring helps a car control how much power goes to each wheel, which can make it handle better, especially when turning. It helps the car grip the road more effectively.
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brake bias
Brake bias is how much stopping power is sent to the front versus the back wheels when you press the brake pedal. Changing it can help the car stop better in different situations.
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electronically controlled brake system
An electronically controlled brake system uses computers and sensors to help the brakes work better. It can adjust how the brakes act based on how you're driving, which can make stopping safer and more effective.
Brand
Lamborghini
Lamborghini is a famous car brand from Italy that makes very fast and expensive sports cars. They are known for their unique and flashy designs.
Car
Datsun 510S
The Datsun 510 is a small car from the 1970s that people love for how fun it is to drive. It's considered a classic and is often modified to make it even better.
Car
Mazda Miatas
Car
Chrysler Daytonas
The Chrysler Daytona is a sporty car from the 1980s that many people remember for its cool looks and speed. It was popular in racing and has a special place in car history.
Car
Toyota Supra
The Toyota Supra is a fast sports car that many people admire for its speed and style. It has a strong history and is often modified to make it even more powerful, which is why it's popular among car enthusiasts.
Car
Dodge Challengers
The Dodge Challenger is a big, powerful car that looks like the classic muscle cars from the past. It's popular because it can go really fast and has a cool, retro design that many people love.
Car
Toyota Tundra
The Toyota Tundra is a large truck that is built to last and can handle tough jobs. It's great for people who need a strong vehicle for work or who enjoy outdoor activities.
Car
Ford Excursion
The Ford Excursion is a really big SUV that can carry a lot of people and stuff. It's great for families or anyone who needs a lot of space.
Car
Ford Crown
The Ford Crown Victoria is a big car that many police departments and taxi companies used because it's tough and roomy. It's a classic American car that people often associate with city driving.
Car
Nissan Altima
The Nissan Altima is a comfortable car that is good for everyday driving. It's known for being reliable and getting good gas mileage, making it a popular choice for families.
Car
Nissan Maxima
The Nissan Maxima is a larger car that feels sporty and comfortable, often seen as a more luxurious option. It's known for being reliable and good for long drives.
Car
Dodge Viper
The Dodge Viper is a super-fast sports car that looks really cool and has a big engine. It's known for being thrilling to drive, but it's also quite rare and special.
Car
Nissan Leaf
The Nissan Leaf is a car that runs on electricity instead of gas, which makes it better for the environment. It's a practical choice for everyday driving and helps save on fuel costs.
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We're going to be talking a little bit about the motorsports side of things.
We're going to be talking about Petit Le Mans that just ended last weekend at
Rhode Atlanta.
And then we're going to spend the rest of the podcast really jumping into how
do you get into racing if you really wanted to?
Not just your HPDE, but actual, actual racing, whether that is competitive
drifting, wheel-to-wheel racing or competitive time attack or cone chasing, also known as
Autocross, which is a ton of fun too.
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All right.
Let's talk about petite.
I don't even know what petite lemons is.
I need an explanation on what that is.
What's going on there?
Okay.
So petite lemons is something you dream of.
But petite Le Mans is an event that happens at road Atlanta, which is a
beautiful two and a half mile race track.
And it actually took place ever since in the early 1990s.
Essentially a racing series was canceled or scrapped.
And so America was essentially left without any sort of like global or
national connection to the global motorsport series.
Damn it.
So there's a bunch of different names out there in the 90s specifically and into the
early 2000s that a lot of people talk about like ALMS, American Le Mans series, ELMS,
European Le Mans series.
They had the Iraq chance, all these different things.
But a guy by the name of Don Panos owned road Atlanta at the time and he said, well,
what the heck?
I'll make it myself.
And so he went to the ACO in the early 90s, which is an organization over in Europe
and said, hey, what you guys do with Le Mans is super cool.
I want to do it in America.
Can I?
And they're like, sure.
Damn.
As long as you keep our name in it forever and we'll give you a ticket to
whoever wins that one can come race at Le Mans.
And that's literally like how it started.
Shout out Don.
Pretty good deal, I feel like.
Yeah.
He was a huge automotive entrepreneur and I would almost argue, I'm probably using the
wrong term, but like he's almost like a philanthropist for the automotive community.
He did so much to keep things going.
He had his own vehicle manufacturing company called Panos.
He owned road Atlanta for a time.
He brought Petit Le Mans into the American circuit.
And actually a lot of people would argue Petit Le Mans is what kind of rebuilt a
lot of domestic North American motorsport series and kind of what we get to enjoy today.
So there's a bunch more information on it, but I can't recall it enough to be confident
to tell thousands of people on a podcast.
But ultimately that's what happened.
So it's been running since 1992-ish and it's a terrific event.
It's a multi-class endurance race.
It used to be either 10 hours of racing or I believe it was a thousand laps.
It's a thousand laps or miles.
I think it's laps.
And then eventually they just turned it into 10 hours of driving cumulative.
So this past weekend.
What made them chose 10 hours?
I'm not entirely sure.
I feel, based on what I know about this sort of stuff, it was probably more of like a city thing.
OK.
We're like, they're like, you know, you're not running it at night.
Like you ain't doing it.
And those cars, those cars are loud.
They're screamers at that track.
Atlanta is super quiet.
Yeah, Atlanta is a really calm city, you know.
You need to keep the peace, you know.
Yeah, but so that's exactly what happened.
So now it's a 10 hour endurance race, which is honestly goes by a lot faster than you think.
You would think a 10 hour race drags.
It doesn't because you go, you watch the start, you kind of catching in on that.
That'll take like 45 minutes.
Maybe you go walk around the pits because it's an IMSA race and you can do that.
And it doesn't cost you thousands of dollars to like go in there, which is insane.
It's one of my favorite parts of IMSA.
And, you know, after that, maybe you want to grab a bite.
And that's going to take another hour.
Then you go watch the racing for 45 minutes.
And then you go get a drink for like an hour.
Then you go and watch the race for 45 minutes.
There's just stuff to do, huh?
It's just like it's like, it's like, it's the equivalent of like going to the mall
when you were a middle schooler.
Like you can just kind of putz around the whole track and just do a whole bunch
of little things.
And then if you end up running into people or you interact with a random
enthusiast, a lot of time you'll spend a lot of time with those people.
Like there was multiple interviews we did with folks who attended that were like,
yeah, you know, I just met this guy like two days ago and now we're grilling out
and having beers together at his campsite.
I'm like, that is so sick, you know, and it's really fun.
This year, Rhode Atlanta actually had to shut its gates because they had
reached capacity for the total amount of people that you could have at that
track, which I believe is 150,000 human beings, 150,000 people in a single spot.
I feel like racing is on the up and up.
Like there's general interest around cars, racing, Formula One.
Formula One did a lot of that.
Yeah, it really got people into it.
I mean, well, like I went to the mall the other day and I feel like this
has been going on for at least a year, but like you go into like Paxson or
Zoomees or whatever.
And there's automotive merch, whether it's LZ selling stuff or they're
making their one-off own like in-house apparel and they're pushing car stuff.
I'm like, this is crazy.
I went to the mall with Maggie the other week and we swung through
like American Eagle and they had a bunch of like Red Bull Formula One.
Yeah.
I'm like, where am I?
Yeah, it was the same thing with America.
I want, we walked into, I think we walked into Hollister because
Becca wanted to see pants and the very first.
You can't see in Hollister.
You can now.
You can now.
They changed it.
But they, I remember I walked in and the first thing I saw was a
Camaro vintage style graphic team.
Yep.
Everyone's getting their fingies in on it.
So yeah, I mean, I must have changed.
Automotive is cool.
Automotive and anime is cool.
Let's go.
Hell yeah.
But I would say it was, it was a great event.
IMSA does a great job with it.
They've been growing like a weed this year.
I think they just hit like a million subscribers on YouTube about a month ago.
And it's cool.
We're, we're working more closely with them now.
I got to do a collaborated reel with them.
I was out there with Brembo, which was really fun and sick.
That was a really fun event.
So I got to learn big breaks, huge, massive, huge, like 440 millimeter
breaks, like huge breaks.
I got to hold a GTD carbon ceramic.
It's like this big insane story.
It's insane, but like learning about, you know, like how calipers work
and rotors and this sort of that.
And I had to ask them, like the number one question I asked them
right off the gate was, does slotted or drilled rotors matter more?
You should have asked them which fucking direction they go
because I never know.
I asked him and he goes, you want to know the truth?
I'm like, yeah, I want to know the truth.
He's like, drilled or slotted, don't matter, don't matter.
He's like, he's like drilled, drilled is nice.
It looks cool, but functionally speaking on a street car or even
like a semi-track car, you're not going to notice it.
If you go out there and you want the most functional version,
you would want a slotted rotor because what it does do.
Yeah, I mean a little bit, but he's like, it's, it's a matter
of saying, you know, as the rotors going in a circle,
essentially those slots help with getting rid of debris and then
the heat gases that the rotor and the brake will give off.
It actually evacuates it out and it does have a direction to do that.
But he goes, really what will make the biggest difference is the
cooling veins of the rotor and how those the inside and a lot of
those are actually mostly the same regardless on what type of
rotor that you get.
But they have asymmetrical veined rotors and directionally
designed rotor veins for like more track, track applications and
essentially creates, I don't know what the science term is, but
essentially when they do their two piece rotor system, they have
the veins inside and then these like airports.
And what it does is it creates a vacuum of air that forces the
air up and out through a certain direction.
Sure effect.
Yeah, that's the one.
And those rotors are very expensive.
I bet I've heard the airports are no good.
Dude, I'll tell you what, when I flew back in yesterday, because
we we left Atlanta at like, I don't know, Greg and I left at
five o'clock in the morning, four o'clock in the morning.
I was scared shitless the whole time.
Yeah, I was like, I got to the airport.
You've already had just nightmare scenarios all year.
And I was like sitting at the at the terminal, just looking
at it on time, on time, just like sitting waiting the moment
she opened the door.
I'm like, yes.
And then we got in the plane and we're flying and I'm
like, this now's the time to check the connecting flight.
And I'm closer to the door.
Greg is like in the third world country, it felt like all the
way in the back of the plane, practically working for them.
And would you like sunships or crackers?
Both.
And it was 15 minutes from our first flight to our second flight.
And so I got off the plane right away.
And I just told Greg all I sent to him was run.
I've gotten that message too many times.
I'm sick of running in the airport.
I know, I don't run a lot.
I know that by looking at me, but I run the most at airports.
Yeah, the best part was in case anybody flies out of the
Detroit airport, I will have you know that the terminal
express tram from a 68 to the center area where you would
cross the concourse B and C is slower than a brisk jog
down that same way using the little running platforms.
So in case you're wondering if like, if you need to know, if
you yes, this is important.
You guys need to know this too, because if you get off a plane
and you got to you got to cook, which I've had to the most
polarizing decision you can make is whether you're taking
that tram or you're not.
I absolutely required.
I can't remember where we were one time.
I think it was LAX or something like they were doing work
on one terminal.
So they put us in like some back country terminal and they
had to like literally bus everyone to the other terminal.
Like that was the only option like you couldn't walk because
it was walking across like the active parkway.
Like other than that, like I would know I just rather book
it. So fun fact about that.
You know when they say they used to tell you like you need
to get to an airport.
I think it was three hours before you're selected
departure date.
It's because of that terminal in LAX because they did a
time estimate between the maximum amount of time required
to walk and go through TSA and this is then and so literally
to get to that terminal where you are the furthest one away
can actually take up to three hours.
It was nuts because everyone was trying to drive.
Everyone was trying to catch their connecting flight and
they're sending shuttles over, but the shuttles can only
take so many people so fighting to the front of the
line to get on a damn shuttle because everyone's like
my plane is boarding now.
Yeah, it was pretty terrible.
But what's not terrible is listening to an Aston Martin
Valkyrie fly by every like a minute and five seconds.
Do you remember the name?
When we went to M.Taylor Race at Laguna Seiko, the winner.
Hmm. What is it?
It was like Taylor Racing.
No, Jack was watching Taylor Racing.
Wayne Taylor Racing.
Who is the driver?
Is a son, wasn't it?
Well, Jordan Taylor is one of the drivers.
Oh, don't sound familiar.
I just I thought I see a photo with Alex.
It's with Jordan Taylor.
One of the drivers and I swear we interviewed him.
Probably because we interviewed the Wayne Taylor racing
guys.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he was he was awesome.
He was really nice.
It was super nice.
Yeah, he's actually kind of a shit poster, which I really,
really like on the internet.
It's kind of I'll never forget asking.
The owner of Wayne Taylor Racing, I think Dakota asked
like something about should you cheap out on tires?
And he's like, we get tires for free.
Why would we ever do that's a dumb question?
I always run good tires like we are in different worlds.
I also asked a lot of the drivers.
It was like if they what's their favorite taco or something
like that.
And they didn't know what tacos were.
No, I never heard of it is that really it was really
groundbreaking stuff learned a lot that trip.
But so the the classes that they were racing there.
Yeah, what kind of cars were they in?
Was it like?
Yes, you get you get your GTD and GTD Pro.
So those are essentially like your race spec street style
cars, right?
So you're Mustang GTD, you're the ones I like.
911 GT3, Arar from a racing, the Ferrari 296, the Corvette.
Those are all cars that are in those classes.
And then they're broken up by if you have certain
level of driving status versus not GTD Bros.
Obviously all pro drivers, you have to have a certain class.
And then GTD, you do not need that.
You only need, I think it's one platinum rated driver.
But essentially, that's how they tear it out.
And then there's LMP to LMP twos are probably the underrated
favorite car to watch at a track like that, because they're
very compared to everything else.
They're very small, like in width, and they're very,
very quick in the corners.
So they do a ton of overtaking.
And then you obviously have GTP class or a hyper car
class is what I think it would be overseas.
And GTP has like the Porsche 963 and the Aston Martin
Valkyrie and the BMW that looks just insane.
And then the Cadillac, which is an incredibly sounding
cross crank naturally aspirated electric hybrid powertrain V8,
which sounds insane.
Yeah, what are they using the electric for?
So the the GTPs have essentially a hybrid system.
It helps with getting out of pit lane, power,
you know, slow corners, things like that.
Like the torque vectoring stuff too.
It can. Yeah.
One of the coolest things that I learned actually was the GTP
cars have very individual, they have individual front
and rear brake system.
So the fronts operate as typical.
You press the brake and there's a thing and it applies
pressure and then you can adjust that with a brake bias.
But the brake bias in the rear is all electronically
controlled, so there's nothing actually connecting the two
physically to do it.
So in every other car, if you were to adjust your
brake bias, you can essentially put the same amount
of brake pressure on the pedal and when you adjust
your brake bias, it'll it'll feel it out front rear.
In a GTP car, you actually have to change your
brake pedal position when you adjust your brake bias.
And so I got to ask like Jordan Taylor and the BMW team,
like, do you change a lot of stuff as you're running
around or do you kind of like set it and forget it?
And Jordan Taylor, like without saying, it was like kind
of a set it and forget it kind of guy, like very American,
like, I'm just going to get out there and do it.
And then the BMW driver that I talked to was like,
we adjust and we make changes as needed as we go
through the track.
And I'm like, oh, you change your shit all the time.
So it was it was super fun.
But yeah, the GTP cars are super cool.
The problem is, is the track with 53 cars on it being
two and a half miles long, there's a ton of traffic.
And the GT3 cars or the GTD cars are kind of like
always in the way, which makes for great overtaking.
So there's so many times like for FD Atlanta, you know,
they come down that straight and they whip it to the
left and then up to the right.
There are so many times where cars are passing three
or even four wide on that straight because the track
was is small enough to where you're constantly seeing
overtaking in the same exact spot.
But there's no real safe place to just get by.
You almost are always splitting.
So like towards the last two hours of the race,
you would see GTP cars split around the Mustang
or like split around the Porsche.
That's wild. It was it was really cool.
It's some great terrifying being the slower car and
just be like, oh, my God, oh, my God, just constantly.
Yeah, just like it's like it's like you get in the middle
lane sometimes and you have traffic flying by you.
I feel like it's that but just like times a hundred.
Dude, it was it was wild.
Like the amount of the craziest thing that happened
was right at the beginning, there was a yellow flag
and then there's another yellow flag and then a wheel
flew off one of the cars on like turn two, turn three.
And so it wasn't going slow.
This wheel had to have been cooking at like
90, 100 miles an hour.
And when it got disconnected from the car, it was still going.
He speed up.
And it just got bouncing and bouncing and bouncing.
The cameraman's following it.
It almost took out one of Zach Visser's videographers that was there.
He's literally like, as you see the camera pan,
it like hits this tree and you can see the whole thing
kind of like shake down.
And the one of our friends is named Zach Visser.
He shoots a ton of motorsports content.
Great guy.
One of his teammates was out there and you can see him
get spooked because there's a random man.
Literally kill you.
That's right.
Yeah, like if you ever shoot media at those events,
they have rules and where you can be, where you can't be.
And then they say, even when you are where you're supposed to be,
keep your head on a swivel.
Always.
Anything can happen at any time.
Yeah, it's wild.
Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of tough, tough, tough driving.
You know, it was the last race.
Everybody's really kind of like giving it their all.
And it's just like go kart racing where
Last race, like last race of the year.
Last race of the year for AMSO.
So yeah, so all at least for that series, I'm sorry.
But you see them, they all kind of drive really polite, really nice,
you know, fast, quick, but GT3 cars are like, I'll let you pass
because I'm not fast, you know, in comparison to a GTP car.
But the last two hours, they're like, fuck you.
I'm this is my track, too.
You know, they're finally like shoulders out like, no, I'm going to.
This is my corner.
And so you'll see people start to get
a little bit more like bullish in the corners.
But the GT3 cars are always fun
because then they start fighting like back because those other cars
are so much faster than them in the corners.
But they lose a lot of time by being polite.
So then it's like time to start picking and choosing.
Yeah, it's like they're fighting their own battle.
Then I always thought it was so interesting
that they run literally like three races in one.
Yeah, it's it's fun classes.
It's crazy. I never understood that until we went
and I was like, what the hell is going on out there?
I was like, yeah, makes it interesting to watch constantly
because there's constant overtaking.
Yeah. Excuse me.
Towards the end, we saw what was really cool
is Lamborghini had a really tough run this year
and they actually canceled their program entirely.
And so they're they're exiting the the GTP class.
But they this was their last race.
And up until the final 20 minutes,
they were on on pace to podium.
Oh, shit. It was a it was, I believe it was Porsche.
Porsche Aston Martin with the Valkyrie and the Lamborghini,
which was insane because the Aston Martin also started the year
insanely slow, like just way back of the pack,
just could not figure it out.
And so they've had this like collective
improvement over the over the races.
And we're like, oh, my God, this is going to be an insane podium.
Like Aston Martin and Lamborghini making it.
But Lamborghini ran out of fuel, so they had to repit.
And then they lost their podium.
And then it ended up being Porsche Cadillac.
How do you fucking run out of fuel?
Pushing it too hard.
Well, fill up, bud.
Well, they can learn the quicker is just going to take some time.
Use your reward card and fill up and get back out there.
Forty nine cent bananas.
We'll see you next time.
Oh, well, no, it won't be the last time.
Oh, that we saw I was there in the pits when the when the final
the second to last pit was happening with the Lamborghini.
And you can walk like all the way up and down with the right
axis, you can walk all the way up and down the pits the whole time.
And the last one, you could tell they were like,
nobody is getting in our way.
We have to make sure this car because like the headlight fell out.
So they're like, just taping the headlight of the Lamborghini,
like front clip and like people are taking pictures and videos
and all these Italians that don't know English are like starting
to get increasingly frustrated that there's like a bunch of people everywhere.
So finally, guys, like, guys, I just need like two minutes,
just please for two minutes.
And then there was another time that I thought was really interesting
because when you're shooting media at an MSA event, you can get much,
much closer, but you have to be respectful of what's going on
because people are trying to race.
And there was a guy and I was talking to them and it was
Team Miller racing, I believe it was.
And I asked if I could kind of stand in the corner and get a shot.
And she said, absolutely.
She was like, just be careful because the tires will be hot.
Like, oh, of course, yeah.
And the guy, he's like reading a book, like looks over to me.
He goes, oh, kind of hot is not the right word I would use.
Don't touch them because they'll be coming off smoking hot,
like hundreds of degrees hot.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, sounds good.
So I'm there and I get this video and here's this guy and they throw
the wheel onto the top of the almost like the barrier.
And you see the guy, the other guy grab it and like rip it off.
And he just kind of like rips it off and throws it onto the ground.
And as it's rolling, it's rolling past me.
I can see the smoke coming off of the wheel.
And then there's like a little debris and like some like wrappers and stuff,
like just things that are left as the as the day goes on.
And the tire picked up all of it as it was walking.
It was like a vacuum.
It just like grabbed all this stuff and I thought that was pretty neat.
So no, it was a great event.
Imsa was was incredible.
Brembo, you know, brought me out.
So thank you guys.
They were they were insane.
They're a huge partner for Imsa.
All of their breaks are on the LMP2 cars.
And then they're on a good portion of pretty much everything else out there.
So I got to learn about how long they last and what they can operate to,
which in Rhode, Atlanta was one thousand four hundred and seventy two
degrees of heat will get put to a Brembo caliper.
Jesus. On the strongest breaking zone, which is just insane.
And then it cools down to, you know, six hundred degrees
and then back up to twelve and then back to four, then seven.
Brembo is always the biggest flex.
I remember even like when I was just getting into cars,
the fact that my cobalt SS came with Brembo's only on the front, not the rear.
Yeah, I got big breaks.
I got Brembo's.
Even today, I still think it's cool.
Like my motorcycle, I got the special edition that came with Brembo's.
I'm like, that's bad.
It's just a cool company.
Yeah, they they've done a really good job.
I got to meet the the son of the founder who brought it into the United States
back in like the seventies.
So he was his name is Brandon.
He's an incredibly passionate brand of Brevo.
Not Brandon Brembo, but his name is Brandon.
Great guy to talk to.
We nerded out over over breaks like the whole time because I do like
enjoy learning about that because it's so cool to see how those things get
applied. Yeah.
Yeah.
And how it gets applied to like the street side of things, right?
Because all of that all that data that they collect, they essentially
bring back and they say, OK, how can we put it on a GTD or a Cadillac
or a Tesla or whatever it is?
So it's pretty cool.
Want to know what else is cool?
What's that?
Fortunato coilovers.
Oh, they're super cool.
Those. Yeah, they're pretty cool.
Green and black modular build your own actually super high quality.
And they're fantastic for what the next segment is going to be about,
which is jumping into racing or if you wanted to.
They do it all.
I mean, they've had a ton of experience out on the track.
They can build them to your specifications, which is absolutely fantastic.
If you're really trying to dial in what you want.
I will say the Fortune 500s are probably the best place to start.
If you're just jumping into coilovers and you want to get a good quality set.
If you know what you're doing, you want to jump into something
a little bit more advanced, you can get the 510s.
But one of the things that makes them really special is that digressive
piston, which I personally really love on cars because that means for street use.
Yeah, because that means that slow speed, slow corners,
it's a little bit more of a sensitive feeling so that you can actually feel
the car a little bit more.
And then when you're up at the high speeds, those those same bumps
don't impact you as much.
So it kind of gives you that flexibility at low and high speeds.
It's really nice.
And if you're going to pick up a set, you can go find that over at
martiniworks.com.
So Petit Le Mans was awesome.
There was a bunch of professional race car drivers, all of which have raced.
Almost their entire life.
It seemed like we even ran into some people that didn't.
They started their life out as Call of Duty pro players
from like Rafa racing and then turned into that's crazy car drivers,
which was pretty cool.
Greg, what was his name?
Kind of like the Gran Trismo guy.
The guy from Call of Duty that races now.
Ian Porter, Crim Six.
We got to hang out with him and talk to him for a little bit.
So that was pretty cool.
But playing Gran Trismo.
He's playing cod.
Either game will get you into racing.
Goes to show that anything's possible.
I mean, it makes sense.
Your hand-eye coordination.
If you're a pro level gamer, I'm assuming you have advanced
hand-eye coordination, right?
Yeah.
Quick reaction times.
So it does make sense.
If you like cars, you want to see some of the runescape career
make it to IMSA that I can you're looking at them.
I'm looking at two.
I can guarantee that we may not be the first, but we will finish.
Wait and click.
Stare.
One of OSRS like livery on the car.
But for real, like let's say I wasn't I ain't come out of
the womb downshifted into second.
How do you get into racing if you're in your 30s or your 20s?
You know, like, how do you start getting into that sort of thing?
I know you've been dabbling.
Trying to, yeah.
I think the big thing that I've learned so far.
From everyone that I've talked to, which I've been so blessed to
meet so many incredible people is the concept of you needing to
start in the karting world is dying.
And that's a good thing because karting in 2025 is incredibly
expensive.
Essentially, everything that can be expensive now to go through
the traditional route of getting up there has been
capitalized on.
I mean, karting series can cost you $150,000, $200,000 a
year now, which is nuts.
When you play Mario Karting, that's supposed to be the entry
level.
Exactly.
You might as well just race.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So that that's kind of been the problem.
And some people have, right?
Some people have just jumped that.
There's a really good individual.
He's a Mazda driver.
His name is, I actually spoke to him, Cam.
He started his life on the sim, though, racing spec
Miata's and things like that on iRacing.
And he's doing incredible.
He's actually in the running for the Mazda shootout
sponsorship for this year, because he's been doing so well.
He's got multiple titles, multiple wins this year,
both in real life and also on iRacing.
And so I do think that if you want to get into racing, the
best place to start is, is on the sim.
I think for 99% of people that want to take it seriously, I
think a really great place is to start on the sim and not
a fancy sim, not a full set up like some of the ones that
we have.
I think you can literally start as basic as like
Logitech, some pedals that you can just like velcro to the
floor and just go.
And the reason that I say that is because I feel like the
biggest thing people miss in this process is that it's
about disciplining commitment to get there.
Yeah.
If you can't remain consistent in jumping on the sim
every day for, you know, 45 minutes or 60 minutes or
90 minutes, you're not going to get to a point where
you can compete against people who have done this for
their entire life.
And that is your competition.
It's new gen versus old gen and new gen has to be hard
enough on themselves to say, I don't care if nobody's
watching, I'm still going to go practice.
Because in the traditional sense of go karting, you
always raced against other people.
You always had people watching.
So that's what I would say.
I think it's been a really great start for a lot of
people, a lot of people younger than, than me.
But I would say the way that I'm going to be
going about it or through it is, is really
traveling down the least expensive path possible,
which is speck me out of racing.
Like that's about as cheap as you can get.
And we want to get, get that journey started between
25 and 26 with Mazda Motorsports.
It's still an expensive venture for sure.
But when you start getting into that world and you
can position yourself in terms of talking, you
know, performing and getting partners and sponsors
on board, it is possible 100%.
So is it like, I mean, you've got to get sponsors
to be able to raise?
I think so.
Yeah.
I don't think you can really get anywhere without,
you know, advertising dollars or your own dollars.
Sim racing works really well because it is your
own dollars.
And then you can kind of do your own side promotion
as a part of streaming or on socials or things
like that, because that's, you know, really
valuable, but people need to learn how to
sell themselves if they want to get into even
like the grassroots motorsport racing.
In some way, shape or form.
It can be content.
It can be streaming.
It can be something.
But yeah, some sort of marketing, I feel like it's
like you look at the space now and it's like
there's so much and it's, and it could be, you
know, marketing for like the team itself.
But just like you said, marketing for yourself,
like this is who I am.
This is what I do.
This is how I do it.
And this is how I drive kind of thing.
It's such a big element of that.
And it's like the kind of an unthought
about things.
Sometimes I feel like where it's like, oh,
I'm just going to go drive the car.
It's like, OK, well, if we're going to do that,
then you need to probably like join like some sort of
team then.
Yeah.
And it's the same thing with if you remember
a racing, we have a great relationship with
those guys and gals.
But when they came on to the front with the
rexie design, it wasn't the dinosaur concept
that blew a lot of people away.
Initially, it was the concept that there was
a race car out there that was not completely
destroyed by sponsored logos on it.
And people were more blown away by the fact
that there was like a clean-ish looking car
out there rather than there was a dinosaur.
Then over time, obviously, that story developed and stuff.
But I remember seeing it for the first time thinking,
who is that?
And how do they have that much money to not need
sponsors on their car?
Because even like the biggest partners out there,
even factory teams, they have sponsors for their stuff.
Yeah, they're covered in.
So I would say that that's a big thing.
There's a lot of people that think that sponsorships
are about like just going out and asking for stuff.
And I think a lot of people do get that side of the world
wrong too.
But that's just part of it, I think.
Yeah, and I mean, getting out in your own car
with what you have, go do a track day, go drag race,
go do autocross, whatever you can, I think is a good way.
It's really eye-opening.
I remember my first autocross and my first time
going to the drag strip, it was such an eye-opening
experience and realizing, OK, this does take a lot.
And it is a skill set.
And you have to learn.
And you start from the bottom up.
And getting that seed time, I think, is really important.
Yeah, there's a big misconception, I think,
in racing where you have time to figure it out.
And I think that's the biggest probably
myth in getting into racing is you don't have a lot of time.
When you start getting everything put together
and you start figuring out what you're going to drive
and where you're going to go or what events you're
going to go to, when you get to that event,
you have to think that your second lap out there,
your third lap out there, you're at the best that you can be.
And you need to be able to perform
underneath those conditions.
And if you can't perform underneath those conditions
in the comfort of your own home on a Sim,
you're not going to be able to do that in front of 30 other
cars and a few thousand people that might be watching you.
It's kind of one of the reasons why Jake and Craig,
who you guys met that had those Corvettes,
when they went out there to run Final Bout,
they were pretty peeved because they
felt like they were going to have more time to kind of get
everything figured out and to get out there and run some laps
and get some practice before they were essentially jumped
into qualifying. And essentially they didn't.
They only had a few runs and then it was over.
And they didn't even make it past that.
And they're like, what the hell, I thought we had more time.
And it's like, you have to pretty much perform at your tens.
It's an on-off switch.
Like that. Yeah.
And it has to, you have to be able to turn it on and,
you know, essentially tell everybody else on the field,
like, I don't give a crap about you.
Like, I'm going to race, I'm going to race to win.
And then once you're done, that has to come back off.
Yeah, it's gnarly.
I feel like racing is very unforgiving in a lot of senses.
But I think it's a good thing, too,
to get to an MSA race if you haven't gone to.
They're super neat, super eye-opening.
It's so open.
Like, you get to go everywhere, like you were talking about earlier,
how you can walk in the paddocks.
You can see how these teams operate
and kind of the controlled chaos
that they have going on during the races.
And I think seeing that kind of like behind the scenes
is really valuable, too.
And it puts a perspective into racing
that I didn't have before when I went to my first one.
So, I mean, they do them all over the place.
There's MSA races going on all over.
And there's a lot of stuff that follows it, too.
Like, there's a lot of people that maybe being in big crowds,
like, that's not your thing.
Maybe you just don't like it.
And that's totally okay.
But maybe you love racing.
Go the day before.
Go watch the spec Miata race.
Go watch the Porsche race.
Go watch the, or even Hyundai has their spec race
that they do beforehand.
It's like, go watch that.
That's still a ton of fun.
And some of the craziest driving in any series
is that spec MX-5 Michelin Challenge.
Now, how does the licensing and stuff work for that?
Because you have to have a license
to actually compete legitimately, right?
Yes.
There are certain types of licenses that exist out there.
If you wanted to jump into...
Let's say I'm just like, I got a car, whatever.
I'm ready to go.
How do I get, what license do I have to go get?
So you would essentially go through,
most people would probably go through the SCCA.
And then you would go get your provisional,
novice racing license.
And that novice racing license is based off of,
what classes did you go to?
What's your experience?
Do you have referrals?
That's that and the other thing.
Then once you kind of get that put together,
then they say, okay, you have to be a member.
You become a member.
Then you have to take some tests.
You take some tests.
And then as long as you pass all of that,
you get this card and it says, hey,
if you want to progress,
pass this provisional license, rookie license,
you gotta go out and you gotta race.
And then based on those races and your performance
and if you cause any issues,
they essentially keep track of you and how you do
and your attitude on things.
Cause some people look at their license,
they'll go out there, they cause all sorts of havoc
and the SCCA will revoke their license.
So let's take it back.
That's pretty serious.
So that's how you would start.
And then certain races have certain requirements
for licensing.
Some don't require any licensing.
I know that there are certain lemons races,
for instance, where it's kind of just like,
do you have good enough experience?
Do you know the people?
Are you just not gonna wreck immediately?
Yeah.
Then you're good.
How many steps of that like license?
So you said there's like the provisional,
like novice, rookie one.
How many steps are there after that?
Or is it kind of just like based off
of like a point system or something?
I don't know the answer to that.
What I do know is that there is a vast amount
of requirements and licenses to get up to
your like GTD or LMP2 stuff.
Because you're essentially kind of,
it's kind of like eye racing.
You're improving, you're improving, you're improving.
You have things that have to come with that.
And then you have milestones.
And when you hit those milestones,
you can get upgraded to your next driving ranking.
It's why Max Verstappen spent time at the Nürburgring
this year so that he could get his license
in a reduced powered car,
still finish the whole thing.
He got it, he's good.
Now next year, he can come back
in a full-fledged race car, full power,
full everything and race to win.
Gotcha.
So every team, every organization is a little bit different.
SCCA I think does a really good job
with making it clear to understand.
But again, it's a lot of money.
As you jump into that world,
that's where it's like understanding
how you're gonna financially do it
is something you can't avoid.
You have to know how you're going to fund this idea.
And if you don't have a plan for that,
you better be really good
and you better really know how to market yourself
because you only got so much time
before you run out of money.
Right.
I mean, even the equipment you use
from like the suits and your suppression systems,
roll cages, you know, like all the safety stuff
that goes into it, you can spend thousands
and thousands and thousands of dollars.
It's a never ending battle.
That was the most mind-blowing conversation
I ever had with Mazda Motorsports
when they're like, yeah, we'll help you
with the harder part of the build.
And I was like, what's the harder part of the build?
And he's like, oh, we'll give you a rolling chassis
with a roll cage.
I'm like, isn't the engine and like transmission
and like glad, isn't that the hard stuff?
He's like, no, he's like,
that's the easiest part of this whole thing.
Getting that roll cage welded and assembled
and spacked and cleared and certified
and ready to race, that is the most expensive
and hardest part because most people
just go through one place to get it all done
and that place has wait times, you know,
months, not years of having that roll cage.
Significant standards by that they buy by.
Yeah, I mean, Mazda is probably one
of the safest spec series there is
because there's so much carnage out there
that can happen and those cars are so crazy.
I was gonna say, you're looking at an entry level series
that a lot of people are hopping into
as their first ever type of event like that.
I mean, we've all seen the videos.
He got the guys out there that are like
been driving meadas for 30 years
and he got someone who's out for the first time
and you'd get all of them out on the same field
in the same car.
It's a freaking scary time.
I haven't even been out there yet in a way like that,
but like even when we were practicing
with advanced auto sports,
I remember getting like bump drafted for the first time
and that shit's petrifying.
I'm coming through the kink and all of a sudden
I feel a car hit me in the back and I'm like,
what in the hell is going on back there?
And I look and you can see,
I remember seeing his face, just a smile,
just a shitty thing with the helmet.
You can just see, you know?
And it's like that kind of puts that pit in your stomach
of like, holy shit, like that is a crazy thing.
And you know, in endurance racing,
I mean, those guys are doing it for six, 10, 12, 24 hours.
You know, and I think that's what makes it so,
it's hard to appreciate
until you see what those guys have to do.
And like the stuff they're changing on the fly,
like they have a million buttons in that goddamn car.
Like they're changing shit constantly
for different corners and different.
Man, it's a lot.
That is a lot.
It's a scantron test in there.
So what's your goal?
Like do you have a date you're aiming
for your first race or how does that look?
I don't know yet.
I would really like to, I mean,
obviously our big goal was to try and get out there,
you know, this year.
And I learned that it takes longer than what I thought.
But I also think we spent a lot of focus
and a lot of love on martini works this year making that.
And that to me is, that's how we're gonna figure out
how to financially get out there, right?
Is we have to have something to support us
and I'd rather have it be us.
Right.
But you know, the goal will be next year
to have some time on track and speck me outta
and maybe spend some time out there with the PFM
and get more, you know.
Yeah, I was gonna say, what's the overall goal
with the PFM?
Like, is that like a series that comes?
Did they come to Road America?
Do they, you know, where does that run?
So that can go in a lot of different places.
You'll probably see a lot of that
at the Autobahn Country Club
because that's where a lot of those cars sit.
So we might bring it down there for a couple of races.
I know we're close to the Autobahn team.
But I don't feel comfortable yet being able to get in that
and be like, all right, let's race.
You know what I mean?
So I'd like to get some time
and the same thing with Lars
and some others is let us be our own competitors
in that car for a little bit
and see how we can do good in that
and learn how Arrow works and get all that practice in.
And then let's practice over the wintertime, you know.
So we're a few months away from that
which is pretty crazy to think about
but Daytona's in January.
The roar of Daytona's in January as well.
And so I know that Greg and myself
and Dustin and Lars are all gonna start
getting ready for that.
And then we'll practice after that
with some sort of PFM equivalent and eye racing
and try and see if we can get some good lap times.
Oh yeah.
We'll be doing a lot of sim racing this winter
is what I'm hearing.
That's the goal.
I think I'm kind of turning it into like working out
and I think by doing it that way
instead of just trying to do it as like,
oh, when I have time, I think it's gonna help a ton.
If you don't dedicate the time for it,
it's just like, oh, I'll get to it.
You never get to it.
My sim ring was collecting a ton of dust
because my computer, I just like could not figure out
a smooth way to run it from my desktop.
And so I stole the one from the shop
and I took it to my house and I was like,
I'm gonna, let's see how easy this is.
And I plug it in, press the power button, go to eye racing,
click erase, everything worked.
Holy shit, this is nice.
Like my old PC is I'd run two races
and then it was just like freeze.
And then my graphics card would like roll back
and then one monitor wouldn't work.
And I was like, what, what matrix shit
that I just break in here?
So that's a, that's the plan.
I think continue to have fun with it,
not try to do anything too crazy with it.
I don't want to become a race car driver.
I really like doing what we're doing now.
I just want to drive race cars.
Yeah, like I'll be the happy little idiot
in like the middle of the field,
having fun with the other happy little idiot
that also just got his spec meata.
You know what I mean?
Like that's kind of the goal for me
because Cam and those guys, I mean,
those guys are insane.
Those guys, they drive those meatas
like it's their own shoes.
It's just, it's a nuts experience.
Even though they don't look like
they're going the quickest,
the corner speeds are nutty.
100%.
So, but yeah, that's the game plan.
And then I'm going to try and convince Gels
next year to sell a Zestrasse and get a 350Z.
Interesting.
I'm just wondering if we could
have an intervention for a couple of minutes.
Maybe.
I mean, realistically,
you probably could sell the 240.
Make money.
And get, yeah, enough for a 350, right?
I mean, yeah, if I put the work into it
to get it back on the ground
and reasonably operable again.
There will be a day where he's going to walk
into that garage.
It's going to be like January.
And then he's going to like open up the cover.
Is there a cover on the car?
No.
There's no cover on the car.
Why would there be a cover on the car?
He's going to be, he's going to go into the garage
and he's going to turn the lights on
after not being in there for two months
and realize the car's gone
because we've stolen it and we fixed it
and then we sold it.
Oh yeah.
And there's a 350Z in the shop.
We pimped his ride?
Oh my God.
I feel like Gels wants to keep.
That would be the best outcome, honestly.
I feel like Gels wants to keep the S chassis,
but I don't think he's against if one day he woke up
and there was like a gray, manual,
mid-mile angle kit 350Z in his driveway.
See, I'm just convinced he doesn't care.
I love the thought of owning an S chassis.
The actual process of owning an S chassis
kind of fucking sucks.
I'll put fish tanks in your wheels, but.
In the wheels.
Yeah, there's going to be some like animal abuse stuff.
You can't put fish in the wheels.
This is a really wild fucking just out there.
Yeah.
Do you ever watch Rugrats all grown up?
Of course I did.
Was it Dill that had like the fish belt?
I'm trying to tap into this.
It was like a fish tank.
I thought it was the coolest shit.
But I don't remember fish tank belt.
Dude, it was wild.
I remember Dill.
No, I should live rent free in my mind.
I thought that was the one really cool concept.
Whoa, find it.
Oh, yeah, he did.
Yes.
This show is crazy.
Dude, I remember standing like this.
I do stand like that.
I remember him like I had that hat like that,
like the outfit, everything.
I remember that I do not remember fish tank.
It was like one episode.
Oh, OK, OK.
I thought he was like always wearing.
No, how it was like he invented it or something.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, so that's that's how you want to do it.
I would say if you're going to start racing,
the last thing I'll add in terms of sponsorships is do not
message brands saying, can I have a sponsorship?
Don't do not do that.
Why?
How many likes for sponsorships?
Yeah, that that that's more.
That was the one that ever happened to the internet.
It really is.
Do we still get messages?
Probably daily.
Yeah.
How many likes for set coilovers?
I go to their page, two followers, clapped ass
cars, not running.
Project car going to be sweet.
Yeah, I will.
We've got.
Charles keeps messaging our own account.
It's annoying.
Please finish my car.
He just goes.
He goes in Photoshop.
Takes a picture of the car.
I have so many Instagram accounts.
It just changes the hue of the S-Chassis.
I could.
It's really easy.
It's like it's basically a green screen.
Turns into a blue car.
The biggest tip I could ever give you guys
if you're looking for sponsorships is like,
figure out what the brand needs and then pitch
that solution to them in your in your deck.
We've had a couple really great partnerships
with certain brands.
Some have worked and some we've said no to.
Not that we want to, but a lot of times
if you can look at an account and say, OK, well,
this doesn't look like they're running very good ads.
Doesn't look like they have a super good, strong YouTube
account.
Looks like they're trying to educate,
don't have any Instagram stuff.
Try to tailor it towards that brand's needs
and really try to develop something a little bit more
unique because you'll have a lot more success with that
rather than just messaging somebody and saying.
Just get it out of your head that you're
getting parts for free.
You're not.
No.
If you're getting a set of wheels,
you're getting taillights or suspension,
you're not getting them for free.
You are trading work for them.
You are trading work that equals the value of that
part.
You're getting a set amount of likes or doing a couple
photos of the part.
It doesn't do anything for them.
No.
You're trading, essentially, so you
have to get it out of your mind of, oh, I really
would love to get a sponsor instead of wheels for free.
No, it's not for free.
You are trading work.
You have to have work.
You have to have that all lined up.
It's totally doable and you can.
But 99% of people go about it the complete wrong way
and are in the wrong mentality to even get
a sponsorship.
And it is work.
And I think a lot of people have misconceptions about it too.
A lot of times, you have to do more of what the brand is
wanting and needing versus, oh, I like this wheels.
Can I get these for free?
They might be like, those are discontinued.
We just dropped this, and we need
to promote this right now.
It's all marketing.
It's business, so it's just a bigger endeavor
than probably what you're really thinking it is.
Yeah.
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When I was down at Petite, there
was a group of individuals that scared me.
Every time they were around, I just got a little tense.
It was close to Halloween.
I thought maybe.
I didn't even want to blink.
I figured I would get in trouble.
And that group was the Georgia State Police.
They scared the shit out of me.
Every one of them looks like they're about to just
absolutely beat your ass.
None of them look like they've had a good day
in their entire life.
They've seen some shit.
Obviously.
And they have.
They're Atlanta, right?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, what they go through has to be intense.
And I tried talking to one, and they
didn't really want to spend a whole lot of time chatting
with me because they were too busy being pissed off
by just existing at Friday at 5 o'clock.
I get it.
It started to make me think.
I was like, when I think of Atlanta, when I think of Georgia,
I think of GSP, that's the first group of people
that I think about.
So then I'm like, what do you think
is the official vehicle of certain states?
What's the official vehicle of, like, Texas?
Texas would be a charger or a challenger.
You think so?
Yeah.
I was going to say that.
When I went there and I got my Supra and then I drove back,
I had to drive through a good portion of Texas.
It was chargers and challengers going fucking a buck 80
on the highway the whole time.
I was thinking jeeps.
Of Texas?
Yeah.
Nope.
Hell no.
Never been to Texas.
Wait, no, I have.
I've been to Texas.
There ain't no jeeps.
There's a lot of jeeps.
I know.
We're going to speed around it.
I'm going to speed around five states.
First you have to answer Texas.
Oh, for Texas?
I was going to say Toyota Tundra.
Tundra?
Yeah.
That's an interesting one.
There was a period of time, and I
don't know if they still are, but a lot of Tundras,
the first I-forces were all made in Texas.
And Texas loves Texas.
Nobody loves Texas more than Texas.
True.
Because I just, I don't know.
Oh, you went on Toyota excursion.
Well, they told you that.
I actually knew that because my brother and my dad
both bought, like, matching black I-Force
Tundras, the first generation.
Got a good taste.
And they didn't, they told me that like 20,000 times.
So I'm taking it as a truth.
And grained it in your memory now, yeah.
Bought a piece on Holy Tundra.
Speed round states.
Speed round, official vehicle of certain states.
Are you guys ready?
Yeah.
All right, you got to be quick with it, no explanation.
Hawaii.
Tacoma.
Yeah, shit.
Yeah, I was going to say Tacoma.
For.
Forerunner.
Forerunners.
Any sort of Toyota.
That is not a state.
New York.
Ford Crown Victoria.
That's what I was going to say for the taxis, right?
Even though, like, that's just a very small portion of New York.
But I thought the exact same thing.
Memphis.
Oh, we're going to cities.
Tennessee.
Yeah, we're going to some cities.
Oh, Tennessee.
We were just there.
So, well, it's hard.
Traffic gets a little mixed while we're there.
I would say Nissan Altima.
To say Altima, what's like the Maxima?
I swear, yeah.
Yeah, around Memphis, you will see the most clapped Altima.
Like, how is it driving?
How is it on the road?
What panel is left on?
You almost can't even tell it's an Altima.
You have to like look at, like, what kind of car is it?
Because it is just so blocked.
What's left of it, yeah.
Florida.
Oh, I go back and forth on this one.
But I'd say that's what I'm saying, like, like,
Charger Challenger.
Oh, no.
Well, I would say V6 Camaro.
That is one respectable answer.
Or like one of Porsche's SUVs.
Oh, OK.
It's all retired people.
What are retired people going to buy?
Horvettes, maybe.
Yeah.
California.
Tesla.
Yeah, I was going to say EV.
The California camera.
Rivian.
Rivians, yeah.
Rivians are nice.
Dude, there's so many goddamn Teslas out there.
It's crazy.
There's a lot.
Washington.
Washington.
Forerunner.
I've watched a lot of, like, camping videos.
And a lot of guys out there go camping.
It looks beautiful.
And a forerunner, something like that.
And what else is like that?
Subaru.
Yeah.
Cross Trek.
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
Yep, yep.
And finally, Wisconsin.
The official vehicle of Wisconsin would be.
Chevy Malibu.
Oh, that sucks.
Man.
You couldn't have picked a cooler car for our own state.
I'm sorry.
I was going to say an ACR Dodge Viper, because that's all I see.
You go outside.
That's all you see, drive-out.
I literally do.
I cannot turn a corner without seeing another 1993 Porsche 911
turbo, like, just everywhere.
Just GT3 RS is everywhere here.
If it's just because we live here, obviously,
we know more about the state.
But I feel there's just so many distinct areas
in Wisconsin that are so vastly different.
Yes.
So it's tough for me.
It is to narrow it down, yeah, 100%.
I'm trying to think of what I'm on the road with.
You know what I fucking see all the time?
What are those?
Ah, shit.
I'm sorry.
Is it a Hyundai or is it Kia?
The Santa Fe's.
Yes.
I see Santa Fe's everywhere.
They have a damn good program right now.
There is a fuck ton of Kia's and Hyundai's in Wisconsin.
If you guys ever want to know why there's so many cars
on the road that are new, it's always the leasing
programs.
It's because Kia have to lose.
Not Arnold's sports, I think.
Yeah, they use the radio station.
I drove past a dealership in Wisconsin
that had the EV Dodge Challenger for $150 a month.
It was brand new.
I thought about doing it just so I didn't have to put miles
on my vehicle, $150.
We were grabbing lunch or something.
We were like, did we just see that?
Was that?
Yeah, we had to double take.
That's kind of how I feel about the Nissan Leaf
that Nissan sent me.
Because at first I looked at it and I was like,
I'm not quite sure what to think about this.
There's no part of this that's modified, aftermarket, sports
car, IMSA, endurance.
It's just a leaf.
And I started driving it.
And I started looking at the price.
And I started realizing my happy little ass only drives 2.5
miles to work in back Monday through Friday.
And that's it.
And I looked at this and I'm like, honestly.
Get it?
I get it.
Makes sense.
This is.
It's a new car, a lot of new amenities.
That's what it needs to do.
I'll show you open the door and the biggest digital
I haven't even I haven't really looked at it yet.
It's just it's kind of convenient.
He showed up when at the other day I was like,
what the hell is that?
He's like, I just dropped it off at my door.
I'm like, OK.
It is literally what happened.
OK, another question for you.
OK, I'm ready.
You have to take your two worst types of car drivers
and you have to put them in the city of Milwaukee
to battle it out.
They're already there.
What two groups are you putting together?
Anyone that puts ducks on their dash
and then anyone that does not have all four hubcaps on their
vehicle.
And I want to see that fight.
Gels, anyone with the plastic tow hooks dangling
from the rear bumper that's self tapped
into the plastic bumper?
And oh, it's another one.
Who am I putting them up against?
Truck nut people.
The same five, yeah.
I would put everyone that has ever
put a locally hated sticker on their vehicle
against anyone who has decided that it was OK
to not use turn signals.
OK, I like that.
I have a side hobby.
And it's finding the oddest stickers
that people put on their vehicles.
Because it blows my mind thinking about, OK,
they saw the sticker.
They put in their credit card info
or got the right denomination of cash out
and paid someone to put this on their vehicle.
I've seen some crazy ones, but I just
seen one this weekend as I was at a wedding
I see in the parking lot and said,
Can you tell the chat the population of the city
that you were in before you shared this?
1,000 people is a population of a big city.
I went to a big city this weekend.
It said, driver is the DJ.
Passenger shuts their cake hole.
I just thought that was such a unique sticker.
I've never seen anyone with that sticker.
I think that's like it goes above because it's like,
you didn't just go buy that somewhere.
You know, someone made that for you.
That's a custom one.
That's a custom order.
What's a cake hole?
It's where you put cake in your cake.
I don't like that.
No, you what was the what was the the sticker
that everybody judged way back in the day
that was on every like other car?
I mean, locally, locally hated was a locally hated worst sticker.
What are other terrible stickers to have on your car?
Howard by sports.
And yes, that's a real.
Yeah, there was this era and it's like
Timu fucking Amazon decals.
And I don't know if it's based off of something
like an actual motor sports thing,
but it's it's sports powered by sports or something along.
I've seen that in Appleton.
I know.
Yeah, I've seen multiple.
I don't understand what it means.
I've also seen a lot of edgy moms
that put powered by bitch dust.
That's a big sticker in the logo or like the Disney
font powered by bitch does.
That's insane.
You paid for that.
You're telling random strangers that too.
Oh, what was the other one?
My my kids are sass holes.
Yeah.
That was a big old banner on the back of a car.
I think the one that still gets me is the co-exist.
The ones that have like been caked into the trunk
because they've been on the car.
Oh, yeah.
That is a part of the vehicle.
They were huge back in like the early.
Salt life.
2010s.
Salt life.
I don't know what that one is.
Just like ocean.
We're in Wisconsin.
What?
Got the car from Florida Salt Life.
That's a big one.
I'm trying to think of like going to like a car meet like
car show and I see this like sticker on someone's
and I'm just like, ooh.
Another good question.
Yeah.
What is the one thing people do to their car
that instantly turns it in your opinion into a bad build?
When they modify the gas cap cover.
I hate that.
Don't change utility parts on a vehicle.
And then you make it stand up like the point of the fuel
door is to blend into a vehicle.
It's an access panel.
Yes.
You go and you want it to stand out and look cool.
Leave it alone.
I judge your build if I see that.
100% every time.
Can you ask the question again?
Like what is the one thing you would see on a car that
instantly ruins it for you for a build?
Like it could be a perfect car, but it's got this one thing.
You're like, I'm done with it.
I got another one.
Yeah.
Would you like to go again?
Would you just like to tell us how you feel?
Dude, I feel like this is resurging.
I thought it was a trend that died off completely.
It didn't.
It's resurging.
And it's taking your automatic vehicle
and making it look manual.
Oh, like covering up the spinning.
Yeah.
And put like a shift boot over your your prindle.
That's coming back.
And it's huge in the forerunner groups.
It's like, why do you even want that to look mean?
What are you doing?
Everybody wants to have a third gen forerunner.
Yeah, I think any car that has a wing and also a roof
rack, OK, completely fucking right.
That's like cancels out a ton of SDI owners right now.
They all have those huge roof boxes that are like paint
match or the all black ones.
And then the boxes.
The boxes are OK.
It's like just like when you have like the rack and a bunch
of shit on it for no other reason than just having shit on it.
And you have like a battle arrow wing.
And it's like, what?
We all knew the battle arrow wing wasn't doing anything
anyways.
It's just a little crazy.
I think the the suricahuas are just like I just don't like them.
Yeah, that's always a red flag.
I've always had a red flag.
I'm not I'm not I think there are people that will like put them
on the inside to like make it look cute.
I would see like the pink heart ones are always like the go
to ones.
I just think that like you can have like the cool.
I always think me on is like you have the coolest me
ought to build hard top.
Nardi on the inside.
Nice and clean.
Good looking work wheels.
And then you put that subway surfer frickin plastic
dangle on like the back bumper.
And I'm like, no, no, everything else is so good.
I feel like that has slowed down a little bit.
But it was so huge.
I feel like every single vehicle had after that.
It was the Starliner.
Yes, everybody's doing Starliners in their interior,
which I still think can look good.
I just think you're doing a lot.
I think everybody's going to the OE plus look now
or trying to.
And I think that's the best way to go.
Yeah, I think there's certain cars
that start our late headliner can work at least.
But putting a Starlight headliner in your fifth,
Mark V Toyota Supra, I don't think that fits together.
It's weird.
Kind of clashes.
It's forcing, yeah.
Yeah, it comes down to the style of the car.
And you start like you said just clashing styles
and genres.
And it's like, you got a VIP car,
but you're putting arrow on it or you have like.
Sometimes clashing can work.
Sometimes you can pull it off.
Sometimes you just look at it and it's just
like a hodgepodge of different stuff just thrown at it.
Yeah, 100%.
I think besides that, I think one of my favorite mods
that I've seen people do nowadays.
And I think S chassis has had this way back in the day.
And I've seen it started to come back.
And I really like it when it's done well.
The two-tone paint styles, where it's like the top is
like Sam.
Sam has it where it's like the top half of his S13,
oh, yeah, yeah.
His white and then the bottom is.
It's Modelo colored.
Modelo colored.
I love that.
Like on the right cars, I really think that can look superb.
My favorite part about like Sam's car specifically
is he did, so he painted that all himself
and he did the two-tone, but he has the origin kit for it
that he painted like the gold color.
But underneath like where the kit goes,
like the car itself is also two-tone.
So if like the kit comes off or whatever,
like it's still two-tone, like he was like,
I want to make sure of like my side skirts go flying off
or something like that, that the car still looks bad.
Yeah, that's cool.
Like it was a cool attention to detail.
Yeah, I like that.
That's always a good style.
I'm trying to think if there's anything else
that's really coming back that I like
or that is starting.
I've seen a lot of like subtle ghosted paint jobs
and I think that looks cool.
And what I mean by that is like,
I've seen carbon fiber like hoods, for example.
Unless you like look close at it, you can't see the weave.
It's like actually painted, but it's kind of like ghosted.
I don't know if they mix it with clear or how that works,
but it's like a light dusting almost over it.
And I've also seen that with like the low rider,
like pinstriping and that kind of ghosted in.
I really like that.
I think that's neat.
And it's good when it's not overdone.
It's just like a piece of the car,
like the roof or the hood, you know,
just a small one piece kind of looks neat.
I think that's really cool.
I really want to do that for one of my next builds
is like the engraving kind of life.
It'd be gnarly.
Like the engine bay and the ghosting and stuff like that.
I think that's so, the art of it is insane.
Oh yeah, it's all like one of one then.
Like, you know, you're finding an artist to do that
and you're, it's like tattooing a car essentially.
That's a good way to put it.
It's like you're putting your own twist on.
It's like no one else has that piece.
Like that is the only piece like that then.
I think that's really cool.
You guys have to let us know what you think
about your favorite mods.
And of course, we hope you enjoyed this episode
of us talking about how to get into racing
a little bit about Petit Le Mans.
And then of course, the official cars of certain states
for no other reason than because we thought it was fun.
And if you're looking for car parts,
don't forget to mod your car at martiniworks.com.
We're obviously coming into almost November
in a couple of weeks, which means Black Friday
and Cyber Monday stuff is coming up quick.
And what we can guarantee to you guys and gals
is that we will have deals that nobody else has
and we will be able to help you guys
find the right stuff for your car.
So if you're holding out for that moment
and you need some help making sure
that you've got the right amount of penny saved,
shoot us a message, we'd be happy to help you out.
Some stuff we can't release until November first,
but we'll be able to let you know
whether it's worth it to buy it now
because there's nothing coming
or if you should hold out until November
when something does open up.
So Dakota, anything else you wanna add?
Yeah, I know that in your garage right now
you have a bottle of quick detailer
and it literally has two squirts in it, if that.
And it's the point where it's low enough
that there's still fluid in it and you hear it,
but when you press the trigger, it doesn't work.
It just can out a little bit.
But enough that you haven't thrown it away.
But yeah, you're like, there's some in there.
So I don't want to, okay, let's skip that.
Get some good stuff.
Over at Martini Works, we have Melco
and we have kits for you.
So you can replenish your whole quick detailing,
little supply that you have, what you keep in the trunk
or maybe you keep in the corner of the garage.
Pick that up.
Or if you do just need to resupply on one thing,
whether it's like glass cleaner or tire cleaner
or quick detailer or soap,
you can pick those all up individually as well.
So a huge shout out and thank you to Melco Automotive
for being one of the sponsors
of the Martini Works podcast.
That's all I got.
Okay guys, we hope you enjoyed.
Thank you so much and we will see you next Friday.
Have a good weekend.
Bye.
Bye.
About this episode
Exploring the world of motorsports, this episode dives into the recent Petit Le Mans event at Road Atlanta, highlighting its history and significance in American racing. The hosts discuss how to break into racing, emphasizing the importance of sim racing as a starting point and the challenges of securing sponsorships. Listeners will hear about the various classes of cars, the intricacies of endurance racing, and personal anecdotes from the hosts' experiences at the track. The conversation is lively, filled with insights on racing culture and the evolving landscape of motorsports.
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