The vaccination dilemma

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everybody else. Welcome back to the show coming

up on today's episode. Mr. Fred plan.

So Fred is NSX owner who has been featured in a couple big time. Publications for just driving

his car. He has a purple NSX.

If you've seen him on my Instagram page, @j, Finning, it is the one in the Red Bull Livery and then when I went to NSX bow, there was actually two of them him and mr.

Ben, Ben England Englert Englert, you know, I've never been able to her husband's last name and we go way back.

In fact been it's the same band who bought fix in a sex which is the second in a sex that I ever drove way back in the day before he sold it and eventually picked up another one.

I think he wasn't in C1 is well also JC.

Converse is joining us for the builders Corner segment.

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And on the track, Catherine, H cocks supporter and friend of the show. Join me for some Q&A segment and

I tell you about one of my rental cars of the week.

The first every once in a while we talk about masks, we talk about the pandemic. And I try not to make that part

of this show, but it is a reality that we're all facing, and it seems, as if, you know, we started kind of turning a curve a little bit and then, And here we are again with the Delta variant and the people who aren't bakst of course account for well over ninety percent, but then there's people who are vaccinated that are still getting it.

And the only thing I can really think of is not that the vaccine was rushed, but because it's another strain, and I'm not comparing covid to the flu. But what I can say is someone

who works in health care, which I do whether it's Healthcare, it I'm not clinical, but when I have to travel to the site's back, when I used to travel, I was still up.

Is to be mandated for me, to get a flu shot, had to get a flu shot or wear a mask for like 30 days at work back when wearing a mask was not fashionable. And I'm starting to wonder if

all this covid stuff is kind of eventually become the same thing where every year you have to get your covid shot.

And so if you don't get the flu, if you don't get the flu vaccination then chances are you're going to get the flu a lot easier than if you are get vaccinated.

But here's the trick every time you get the flu shot.

It's from the previous year's strain.

Now, some people know that some people don't, it's nothing.

The current year because it has to kind of be.

The flu has to kind of evolve. It's constantly evolving.

So we're always playing catch-up.

We're not getting ahead and I'm wondering if covid is the same thing. What's unfortunate is I have

friends out there and we've all seen where all it takes is one company to say, hey or one state to say.

Hey, if you want to work here, you need to be vaccinated and so people are starting. To lose our jobs, had a former

coworker reach out, which was pretty good friend of mine when I work there and she said, hey, do you know who she?

She asked me? Hey, who do you use for

recruiting for your jobs? And I responded to her.

Hey, I don't really use anyone. My line of work people find me.

Now. I'm on LinkedIn.

I'm on indeed, and that's really it.

When I need a job. I might call a few recruiters to

say. Hey, I'm still looking.

But generally when a job opens up, they reach out to me.

And she said, okay, so I said why what's up?

She goes? Well, I'm losing my job after 19

years. And I thought, damn, that sucks.

19 years and must be downsizing because everybody's, you know, reorganizing, and, and the paradigm shift that we've encountered and the pandemic era is just kind of reshaping and rethinking, how organizations run their businesses.

For the most part. It was like, damn, that sucks.

I'm sorry to hear that. You know, when is your last day

and she said, Well, it's coming up pretty soon.

They're requiring everybody to get the vaccine.

And then I thought oh because when it was originally phrase, it was in my opinion. I took it as if getting downsize

position to get eliminated, but ultimately at the end of the day, the decision is up to this individual.

You want to keep working. Then get the vaccine if you're

against it because you don't believe that the science is good. Then it's a tough situation.

I have friends that don't have the vaccine.

I'm very close friends that don't want to be that.

EXT, whether they don't trust it or they think it's a political thing. You know, my friend Stephen who

was in the who's been on the podcast before was telling me that recently a nurse in New York City, got busted for injecting saline and people instead of Vaccine because she didn't believe in vaccinations. So what the fuck?

So I'm not saying people have to be vaccinated.

I'm just saying is that these are very hard times.

I think it's, it's very It's Tricky.

I've been I vaccinated, you know, I have the moderna and, you know, I did it because my mother-in-law is one of those people that we feel that if she were to get covid, she could pass. And so it was our responsibility

to get the vaccine. Am I?

Wife did a lot of research, you know, I don't as much as I research about stuff. I didn't jump into it.

And I know now that, hey, I could still catch go bit.

But at least I had the vaccine, but I don't know if places are going to require you to start carrying him in seasonal vaccine cards. It's going to be difficult

because they look like little index.

Little flash cards that we had back in elementary school.

So I'm not sure I get that is because they, I guess you're not supposed to laminate them either, and they're bigger than a wallet Size credit card, or your social security card.

So then, what do you do? Right.

What's the next step? You don't even know where my

card is. My wife.

Has it somewhere. It's probably in her purse or in

our file somewhere. But I think the big problem is

for the people who don't want to be vaccinated, never wanted it back vaccinated that they use that, right?

As a reason to walk around without masks.

They used the people who were vaccinated as a reason.

So when you walk into the store, you see the size now that says, if you're vaccinated, you don't have to wear a mask, if you aren't vaccinated, please wear one and there's really no way for them to know for the non-vaccinated.

They're going to say screw it. It's like a free ride because

not only am I Vaccinated because I don't believe in it or I think it's a conspiracy or I just don't trust it because it has heard enough time, but there's no way for them to prove.

So I'm just going to walk in and say, I'm back stand, they can't make me put a mask on therein lies.

The problem that to me. That's the root cause analysis

of why these these cities and these states are having to mask back up. That's the reason why every time

I go to the airport, that's the only place o I absolutely positively 100% and forced to wear a mask.

And so I got to make sure I always have one on me.

So here we are again. I feel like we've been having

this conversation for a year. And for all you political people

out there. Donald Trump is not an office

Anymore. Joe Biden is at least half of

you wanted this because all of a sudden, you thought the world was going to change and it hasn't changed.

It hasn't changed. We're still in the same crap

that we were in last year, but it's evolved just like the Delta variant has evolved now. We're a little more educated

now, we learn. Now, we know a little bit more.

And now I can say it's not about whoever was President because you could argue that Biden is make an even more people, man.

Maybe he's not offending people anymore.

Maybe he's not saying grab a minute, but he's up there and he's barely Lucy, you know, he's barely coherent and the people who like them just kind of quiet and kind of turned their head and kind of do that little that little thing where you're kind of embarrassed and the people who don't like the most say it.

So, you know, it's I've, this is why I don't talk politics much on this show because I always look at things like this, if I'm from outer space, and I'm coming to Earth which I am and I'm coming to Earth and I'm just observing people.

I don't come with any bias. I just observe, and a lot of

times in our society, in our culture is one giant contradiction. It's one big, excuse, and Jack

contradiction. I don't watch bet.

And my wife's like, that's, A bad like, well, I don't watch be take out this Black Entertainment Television.

There's no White Entertainment Television because if there was, it would be canceled, as soon as it came out, because this race is shit, but it's okay to have bet Black Entertainment Television. There's just, we just live in a

double standard and it goes from racism to politics to gender doesn't matter. I think you guys are tired of

hearing me talking. So coming up Fred plan.

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Today's guest is a special guest Fred plan.

The NSX manager drives with the purple intersects from here to the other end of the world. What's up, man?

Thank you for inviting me. Happy to be here just to set the

Will mr. Fred is talking to us from his

wife's Tesla because it's loud. It's probably louder in his

house and it is in mind usually and you guys know I complain about that shit every once in a while, but the reason I have him on is because you're by the time this episode comes out in a sex will have came and gone, Monterey car week would have came and gone. And you've been in the news in

the past. I mean, Road & Track wrote an

article about you, some years ago for driving, tell my listeners a little bit about your NSX.

And you before we jump into even more slutty stuff.

So I mean, the gist of it is, I'm just a guy who got an NSX, and in my mind. I was just gonna save it for a

special day. And then I found that every day.

That was driving, the NSX, it became a special day and I saw just start driving it and driving it and driving it.

And even though it's supposed to be my like, you know, special week. Car.

He became my everyday car and it slotted into my life.

And it became it's open so many doors for for all these things that I got interested in, you know, so I was already doing a lot of road trips starting to do road trips in an NSX, really changed my perspective on that. I was already enjoying going to

Cars & Coffee, but then, you know, showing up in an NSX was a unique experience that and then, and I said, It is kind of this funny car right? Where, you know, you can go to

cars & Coffee in the morning and then go to like the local tuner crowd meet in the Target parking lot later that evening and you fit in and both crowds, right? So it opens a lot of doors for

me as a Enthusiast. But also has just a guy who

likes to drive, you know, the car is still, you know, it's still an NSX, still take it up to the Canyons, figure out to the mountains. If you just do Beach Cruise

because I've got a Target on every complains about how fluffy it is. So I just take the top off and

fuck the haters. Let's just cruise on the beach.

That's all, that's all good. And it's about a track I.

So take it on road trips and I could do and it's Expo and I could still just do these drives and that became kind of a central feature of my ownership ownership experience with Lana sex was just me being will do whatever I wanted in it, but I would say, the flip side of that is also true.

Of being in this car really expanded.

My understanding of what I wanted out of like a car ownership experience. So that's the short version.

But I'm happy to go on and on and on about any one of those have a couple of olives for you. Number one.

I never understood the complaint about the target.

People say flopping around and it feels like the things all over the road and do your suspension.

Should like I don't have that fucking complaint.

I mean, how long have you had your intersex?

So, I got my NSX in December 2012.

I got the same year ago and I got mine.

August of 2012. Yeah.

And back, then, prices are nice. Right?

We were just, we were, I got mine because I was looking at S2000 initially, as if I had, these are ridiculous.

And I start looking at the prices and I was like, I could get an NSX maybe and it's looking at asset prices up easy choice, but of course, I was a long time ago now.

So Yeah, and then initially but then it's like I said, it was a bill winner. I didn't really intend to drive

it that much but then as nicer weather kicked in, I was taking the top off and yeah, like I met other insects owners, but wasn't it like pretty wobbly, isn't it? Like disappoint you and and it

didn't it's like no it didn't at all.

I drive their cars and say okay. I mean there's a difference.

I'm not you know, I'm not that attract all the time and I'm not like I take my roof off all the time and you know, it's relaxing and yeah. It's a fun car.

It doesn't. It doesn't really take away that

much from that. So I talked about some of my

friends here as like, look man, having an intersex.

It's it's so hard to explain because you meet so many people and there's people out out and about that.

I mean, Jesus, you know, I recently bought an infinity and I didn't have a way to go pick it up from Nashville.

And one of the guys there. I was like, hey, I know you and

he's on the intersects almost group and he booked one of his drivers. It gave me a one-way ride like

two fucking hours when there was no other way to get there.

I mean, it's just look what sort of cool stuff that you think has happened because of your NSX. Yes.

I think that's definitely one of them is the community like my opinion of the community has like evolved and matured over the years of stuff like that. But I think that's so cute.

A key feature of only and on this axis you put yourself into this club of equally. Enthusiastic equally passionate

and equally crazy people that that care largely about the same things that you care about and they're willing to go all in on it to achieve some of the same things that you are.

So yeah, like what, you know, we stick our necks out for each other. That's a big, that's a big one

for sure, your doors that opened.

So I didn't really consider myself like a huge car night before I got the NSX, but then it kind of getting the NSX kind.

Cast on me, the impression that hey, I'm a serious car guy and I found that I kind of grew into it because of that, right?

So like for example, if I showed up to a car dealership because I was hoping one of my friends or you know, like one of my sister's bike are all of a sudden you shopping an NSX as oh shit, you know, this is a guy who really knows this area.

So we're not going to try to bullshit.

Yeah. Yeah.

This guy knows his shit, you know, you can't you can't jerk them around. This is a guy who knows stuff.

And so they'll cut right to the chase.

They treat you differently because you showed up in and the sex versus you showed up and in, you know, something more pedestrian and then it's the same thing.

Like when you show up in like social situations and it is very superficial thing, but it is noticeable, right?

Yeah, it's fun. You pull up the restaurant and

you get the park and you know, the valley Valley either.

Lets you park your own car or you park right in front or you get to a four-way stop and other people will like kind of like see your car and you get to go first like a little bit or little bit more than usual. You know, how did?

Hold on, how do you know they just don't recognize you from the road and track article and the YouTube video?

Yeah, you know, that's a possibility to have thought of that. But then when I go back and look

at those videos, I'm like, you know what, I think there's too much, you know, like windows rolled up.

They're tinted. You can have seen me man.

I'm too dark in there, but I have entertained that idea in my mind. Yeah, and then I know I know.

So I know this is like little social moments and these little differences in the way people treat me when I'm in a sex.

Like, for example. If I drive my wife's car, right?

I'm sitting in the Tesla Model 3 right now, or as a friend recently called it a Stanford Camry because apparently there's so many of them of them have called a before, just know, without knowing that just cause they're all the fucking same, they're all over the place. But yeah, they're all over the

place, but I think it's a great car anyways, but when I'm driving it, I noticed, if I come up to a four-way, stop, No One's Gonna Let Me Go first, or if I'm driving, you know, up and down to 40 5 or 25. People are cutting me off the

complete. You know, I mean, we're like a

roll call on me just because I'm going to Tesla and I'm like if I was an NSX is this would not be happening to me, you know, or my problems would be different. At least, you know, my problems

would be, you know, fending off all the Civics and Lancers that want to race me and stuff like that, but it's a different problem set. So yeah, I think it's

superficial but people treat you a little differently, whether they mean to or not, depending on the cars that you're sitting at. It's funny you mention people

roll call on you, give an opinion on coal rollers because It's I've been killing them for the last few episodes because I just don't fucking understand. I like, I want a coal roller to

come on this show. And just explain to just explain

to me. Why, a quite wide it is.

Yeah, so it doesn't happen to me that often.

It does tend to happen in a Tesla and I don't get him in.

I don't because I guess maybe it's like how it was in the late 90s when, you know, you were so cool.

You showed up in your Honda Civic or it.

Just sex or something and just had to rev all the red line and maybe bounce off it a couple times because you could maybe it's like that but like the truck version.

Yeah, I mean, I mean maybe she's a fuck you.

I don't know man. I don't get it.

So I look forward to that podcast or invite one of those guys on and explain once and for all it's an open invite because you know, it's just I've been going to town on because they're fucking everything up for us. What are your thoughts on the?

Because I don't think we've talked about before.

We've never talked on the phone, but just I don't see you very often at all. Just, maybe maybe it just in

this expose, right? Yeah.

Yeah, so, how many intersects both have?

You gone to be gone to every single one since you've owned the vehicle? I've gone to every single one

that I could. Yeah, so I did go to Raleigh,

which was fall right after I get the car.

Like the next Autumn. I went to Mid-Ohio Raleigh was a

pretty close drive from DC. I was living in, d.c.

At the time Mid-Ohio was still a days away, said I was doable and then what was it after that Palm Springs?

Also, I remember not, so I didn't go to Palm Springs and I didn't go to Orlando because we had moved to Hawaii and it's a little bit of a longer drive. So, yeah, that that kind of got

in the way if there was a way where like the line up like a bunch of container ships or something.

I don't know. It's kind of float over make.

Yeah, maybe we would have been that but also those were the two that I missed. But then when we moved back to

the mainland, that it did go to Wisconsin, which was like, maybe like a month or two after we got back and that Long drive fun and then after Wisconsin a did go to Services girl was in San Francisco. Ready?

Yes. This girl in DC and then we had

the whole last year. And of course, yeah, 21.

I did go to one before I had a because it wasn't really an NSX.

About the time I went to I guess I was like a dress rehearsal for S Expo in Vegas. So I was I was pretty active in

the legend community. Back then to shoot one was his

2011. 2010 2009 should ask Tyson.

Tyson knows about these things. So there was a national Acura

Legend meat which is hosted in Vegas in the early 2010's and I've gone to that. Not.

Yep. And then I didn't realize that

that was also kind of kind of parallel or in conjunction with like a like a dress rehearsal for Ennis Expo in Vegas that year and so I met a lot of the, these are not easy.

There's a lot of Vegas NSX, guys do That and they kind of like did stuff with us. If we did the drive up Spring

Mountain, you know, hung out at the dealership and stuff like that. So that was really eye-opening

for me as as a legend owner and kind of looking up to the NSX guys, and then kind of wondering like how do they live their lives and wonder how that must be like, wow.

I wish I was cool. It was dude.

I was, I was googly-eyed looking at these these guys.

And yeah, that was that was actually a Formative experience, you know, core memory if you want to call it that.

But what's funny is it, you know, sex is a dude magnet.

Why why do you go to somebody in a sex?

What is it about in a sexpo that attracts you to go every year when you can. Yeah, so there's multiple

reasons. I mean, the first one.

Easiest, one to everyone was mentions though, you know, it's great way to see the community and see if he's like, longtime friends. And for sure.

There's that that's harder to explain and convince someone of right if there weren't already there right now.

So it's kind of like, you know, I can make my own.

So another thing that I really like, this is personal is this I just like going for a long fucking drive for pretty much know, they're good reason, you know, and it's like suppose like any other reason to go. And go for a drive.

So yeah, like, you know the further it is it's kind of plan around it and it's just an excuse to go out and cross country and go see stuff and you know experience things on the way and Caravan over the budget for Dennis and sexy eyes and that's a big part of it. The other thing is it is pretty

cool to get kind of a Insider look into not just any six Community but kind of the greater Acura Honda car industry, kind of picture. So I still remember, Mid-Ohio,

went Tedd class basically willingly presented himself to like a two or three-hour grilling in front of the toughest possible. Proud and just answer all

questions about the second gen and a sex.

That wasn't was. No, not yet.

They had that blue one. They had that blue test one at

the track. And that was, when Milad was

like all in his face. Yeah, and anti-claus came up.

He's all right. Go ahead.

Ask me anything. Ask me anything about this car.

You know, give me your complaints and we sat there and I remember thinking was like almost 11:00.

Now this prevented just sitting here Reese like giving him shit about this car. Like why isn't it more like the

first one? Why doesn't this?

Why isn't it that, you know, there's still a lot of that and we're talking about Fred class of former Global design leader over the. Now, now the current NSX, we

used to always call it the new NSX.

I think we could stop calling the new NSX.

Now, to can't wait, because it was 2017.

And that one was Correct, when it came out, that was it all.

Go right, five years ago. It's a long.

It's a long time ago, for car lifespan.

Yeah, and now it's getting like now we just uses retired to him in some of those. I had John W on here last

December and he's retired. I think he deserves it.

He needs. Yeah.

It's yeah, he's worked his ass off on this car and I think yeah, speaking about and see one.

I think it's unfortunately, this woefully underappreciated car I have Driven one a couple times and it is phenomenal.

But then and is this is tough part.

I think this is such a great car.

But what I buy it like through his mind when he stopped at a price, what's stopping you? Is it just the price tag or It's

it, that's part of it, but it's more of the Alternatives, you know, for that price. There's so many other cars and

ultimately at that price range. You're not buying a car because

it's good deal. You're buying a car because of

how it makes you feel, right? And and that's different for

every person. But big part of it at that price

tag is how does it make you feel inside?

Like, do you feel proud of what you're driving?

Do you feel like the car you're driving is projecting?

That you want, you know, and they got, this is a superficial.

How do people see me kind of bullshit.

I think my, I think knock our people don't get it but car people definitely do. Yeah, and that's part of it.

You know, it's more than like how it makes you feel like the driving sensation because for sure the nc1 has that.

And it's about this unique Niche that very few cars I think for like really reach into the way that the new NSX has but it's hard to sell that. It's hard to explain that to

someone, you know, and you just end up sounding like a BRZ owner like you should try to drive. It's not about the numbers.

It's about how it makes you feel how those kind of guys but just with a bigger wallet and and that stuff and I think I think it's a tough position for accurate corporate or Honda or whoever you want to, you know, latest responsibility on.

It's a tough. It's a tough thing to sell and

you have to be clever with You know, you have to be clever with like portraying this idea of driver for you land and this idea of if you want to call it like racer Heritage or like performers Foundation or you know, the heart and soul of this car. Those are all very nebulous

things and it's weird because on one hand car enthusiasts are willing to spend a fuck ton of money for those exact things, but it's hard. To come to a new product and

have confidence that those kind of that kind of spirit exists within this particular car or that one, you know, it's different when people go. Oh, I have faith that Ferrari,

you know, Ferrari will Infuse all other car lineup with this, you know, this magic or you know, every Porsche 911 from this generation this generation and going forward into the future, will have this magic and, and people expect these These nebulous characteristics to like be infused within each new generation of each of these respective cars and it sucks to say, but with the NSX that that lineage was was tough to carry

over and and not necessarily the lineage in terms of performance but lineage of how people feel about the car, how people feel about the name. You know what I mean?

Yeah, and you said I think that's reflected.

That's reflected in, even how You feel about, you know, by we, I mean, the greater NSX community and all the hate about dancing ones. How to ruin a sex blahblahblah.

Yeah. Do you call a real?

Do you call it intersects? Like, how would you define it?

Yeah, I do. Actually, I do think that, if

you understand NSX to be a collection or amalgamation of all the best possible Technologies in automotive industry at that time brought together in a package, that makes sense in terms. Zuv prioritizing performance and

Driver experience, then the NSX. The nc1 is absolutely an NSX.

I guess. One of the big problems is the

car. Industry has changed so much

since the anyone and they need to in a sec.

No to me like and then if you try to recreate the first is an NSX. In in today's car industry.

It just wouldn't work. We say as enthusiasts.

We want that. Oh, I want a manual

transmission, rear-wheel drive only, you know, high revving.

That's what I want. I don't want a hybrid but then

cars like that exists cars like that exist and they don't sell, you know, it's like there's there's an NSX buddy of mine out in Hawaii. He had it was this car again,

Chevy SS. Remember that car?

Four-door sedan holding. It was just it was holding

something one of my good friends over here.

So it's this car, that's fucking phenomenal, and it's got a manual transmission, a big fucking V8 and it's just super fun car, but despite all all the all the shit talking and on all the insistence, from the car Enthusiast Community.

That's kind of car. They wanted, it didn't sell.

Well, it just did you know and it's the same thing like, you know, BMW said this before? Yeah, everyone says you want a

manual transmission bowl and they offer man.

Chris missions and all the cars. It's the lowest selling model,

right? Let's it's always true.

Of course, there's exceptions to the rule but you know, is that I agree with you because it's the same deal with the Porsche right to like well, you can get this a brand new day.

Yeah, but you're not getting a 918 in the manual and and you have the difference between Ferrari Porsche McLaren and the NSX is, that's what those people do.

They make an entire fleet of vehicles, right?

They don't make one vehicle. They make a fleet of vehicles.

But I mean sort of like the NSX ownership do people aren't really keeping Ferraris though. There's a lot of Ferrari

turnover and I think that's what's different than, you know, our cars, people buy them and they keep them.

What would you say to the person who says, well, the C8 is what the NSX should have been. Yeah, I guess it depends on what

they thought. The NSX should have been because

I hear people say that, I'm just like, look, man, come on.

I mean, whatever. I think, I think the in C1 isn't

in a sex 100% because of everything.

You said if you really understand what the car is, what it was and what this car is. It absolutely isn't a sex soon

as my guest with this the guys who say they say that about CA they think Dennis X is meant to be like punch way above your weight, giant killer mid-engine machine from a normal car company, right? Because the firm that sense.

If that's what you think an NSX is about, you know, I want, I want a car that sits just above This whole lineup of otherwise could be an everyday normal cars, and I want that car company to for some fucking reason to make something magical and it's got to be mid-engine and somehow, like come way under the price of other cars, like it then.

Yeah, then you could say, the CIA should have is that is what Dennis, it should have been. But I mean, I guess that's what

in one of the things that made that first hand and a sec.

So magical was that it did play that role, you know, here's here's this car that comes out of this otherwise Nari card company. That does it make, I mean, did

it good? God makes great cars for sure,

but not like, all right. I'm not paying 60 thousand

dollars for a, for a Honda when they first came out, but it's nothing. Like they sold like gangbusters.

The first couple of years and that's what people don't look at right there. Like, well, why can't they just

keep making this one? I said, have you looked at the

fucking sales numbers? Like my 2005, they sold shit.

Like, most of the NSX is on the road, were sold in the first four years. And I think it's kind of holding

tree with this one. And I mean, people didn't always

love them. They like him at first, I think.

Just compressed. Yeah, I mean, I think that's

right. I agree with you.

The second gen is kind of very compressed timeline, but same do, most of that. And the sex is that solver in

the first year or two, and then this thing I guess, Acura, maybe they thought hey we could kind of do what we did with the first gen and release new colors and minor updates each year and we'll see how that goes. But as already demonstrated by

the first and then the sex that's not enough to maintain sales. That's not enough to keep people

interested. And and that's regardless of the

fact that the car is a phenomenal car, that has nothing to do with it. What do you think of that type

S? The NSX Type S.

We're so we're talking about it. Now.

It has not technically been revealed as As of this conversation, but right I've heard enough leak.

So I mean, one thing I think is telling is how is the numbers that Acura has put out so far or at least what's been leaked, right? They're saying they're going to

350 of them, 50 of which will go Global 300 of which will be allocated to the US, which is the primary market.

And I think that level of exclusivity is telling of What Acura corporate has learned about the market?

You know, like I think one of the blunders probably, but with the NC 11 first came out was that was just too fucking expensive for rent. You a disciple, procedure the

options and then the dealerships, right order them fucking maxed out and then want an extra thirty thousand dollars. You're if you're someone like,

oh, I don't know how much only Sorenson paid but here, he seems like somebody who would go in there and say give it to me now and I don't care if it cost me two hundred seventy thousand.

Dollars, that's what killed it. What do these guys, guys?

Like that? There's a lot more of guys like

that, that by McLaren safaris and there are Acuras and that's an unfortunate for a cure, but that's just the truth of the market. And so, the challenge I think,

is Acura kind of started out on the wrong foot by offering this, otherwise, phenomenal car at just the wrong price.

And on one hand, you could say, well, you know, They're trying to, you know, Target a preview Market that are trying to, you know, demonstrate the exclusivity of the card you wanted owners and buyers to feel like, you know, they were in a special niche of the market and that's all well and good.

But the vast majority people who looked and it sets across shopping it against like a GTR. Yeah, they put it to that were

in a tough spot and I think, It would the type S after his kind of, I don't say, moving the goalposts, but maybe just another strategy, is the right is the right phrase, the understand that okay, exclusivity does have value, but if you are going to make something exclusive, it's got to be genuinely special and generally special.

In this case is not. I mean, it might be something

special about the car. But in this case, it's just

going to be the fact that it's the last run of nsx's and that in itself, unfortunately. L is very special and I think

that's that's why it's got this very limited, very limited run of production. I don't have a problem with the

original price tag. I think the pricing of the

accessories to customize, it was where they fell out of douche because like the 10 grand breaks, the none option on which are very expensive. But, you know, your options on

the wheels, you know, the floor, mats, if you want red interior, that's why I don't know. And dollars, if you want red

seats, which by the way, aren't part of the red interior, you know, that's another whatever whatever.

And you could sit here and configure your car up to two hundred, fifteen thousand dollars before, sending it to a dealership for the same thing. That was 154.

Right? And they're not in my opinion.

They're not what I would say. Are substantive changes.

Like they don't make up like they don't change the performance of the car. Not a just the same course, just

sixty thousand dollars. More.

Yes, which is that stuff. You know, that that mean?

There is a certain buyer that would probably go for that.

But I don't know if that same buyer is the kind that would go, you know, what an Acura. That's that's the way I want to

go with this. That's the same buyer buys a car

and sells it like six months later.

Like they remember they were hitting the Market within because the YouTubers and and the, the wealthy they were buying them to have them and then they turn around and like I like my Lamborghini better or, you know, it looks better when I roll up to the steakhouse in a Ferrari, right superficial, but that's just life. And then unfortunately, that's

not the market that Acuras in this car.

Yep, and it gets me really makes me want her to like, so, what's gonna happen to your performance manufacturing center, right?

The PNC was, I mean the tour at Mid-Ohio mate, it was responsible and then fees that they're doing with this.

Yeah, the things that they're doing this Factory were world class and I don't know, I really I'm crossing my fingers that it's going to be room for the NSX, refresh project or more.

3rd gen innocence, that'd be pretty sweet.

I think they have like, I don't know.

I know sometimes I get lucky, you know, a lot of stuff, but I don't know, but I know they do. The PMC addition of some of the

other vehicles but they have to be coming up.

There's probably some sort of a top-secret roadmap and they're probably developing some cell they have to be right, because that's like I said, that's the standards are in place.

Here's the other thing. I hope you're right on that the

keyword top secret, because I think that's another thing that hurt them. A sex was that this is a car.

And I was supposed to come out years and years and years before it actually did and it was teased for long as fucking time to season two and a half ago. Can Avengers.

Yeah, and I forgot there was an article that was put there were saying, you know, by the time the NSX came out.

It was a brand-new car that already looked like it was six or seven years old, and I think that's true.

Then it's, and it's worked. Unfortunately.

It wasn't new anymore and then the way When it was finally revealed at the Detroit Auto Show, remember this.

There was fun real. Here's a fine ass out.

Here. It is and it got completely

overshadowed by the Ford GT which, you know, that was a car.

That was like top secret came that thing was, we gotta know where wheat. That was.

It was phenomenal. And no one fucking expected.

It came out of nowhere. Oh, yeah, by the way, here's a

single working on and it wasn't like here's this in were working on of come out of five years. It was like here's this thing

we're working on. We're ready to start taking

deposits. Yeah, because that car show in a

sex changed, probably four or five times.

Times before the final version. Right?

Right. Is you've heard the story about

like how when the NSX was first released at Detroit?

Auto Show in a completely overshadowed.

Something that Ford was working on at the time.

It's kind of Revenge for that. Yeah, the way the 14 he came out

and overshadowed the second gen insects.

I don't know but that's what reminded me of.

Yeah. Well Fred, that's that man.

I appreciate you jumping on the hard parking podcast to talk in a sex. I don't think I've ever had

anyone on here. You know, sex is is long.

Give it a good tug NSX, all fuckin day.

Yeah, I could to have to get you back on.

We'll try to get you back on at a future date.

If you're fine with that. Yeah, catch up with all the

podcasts out of missed out on that.

You keep reminding me of. Okay, promise you.

They're all good, but they're all there.

Well, I'll skip the all the good ones that you've listed for me.

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A few weeks ago. We had gone to Seattle to visit

some friends, my wife and I and so I still have my status.

Although I don't travel nearly as much anymore.

A lot of these companies were really nice to a, go ahead and extend whatever. That is whatever rewards,

whatever that you had earned in 2019 and applied it to 2021 and just act like 2020, never existed.

So I'm still riding that executive their executive Platinum executive Elite. So executive Elite for National.

So what that means is, it's the tear in every realm.

Most rental car companies have something like this.

It's the tier where you can just pay one price.

Usually, it's the price of whatever, a full rental, a full size vehicle. Be and you go over to that

section and you can pick any vehicle that they have over there and the vehicles. I have over there aren't

necessarily awesome vehicles, but you can pick.

So if you want to pick up truck, you don't have to pay the money that they would charge you for a pickup truck.

You can just get into a pickup truck.

As long as it's in that section, minivan usually compact SUV, whatever everyone small dip in it and it changes, depending on where you go. So we got a 2021 Lincoln

Navigator Reserve Reserve is the trim.

So upon research. They have the standard, the

reserve and the Black Label and the reserve is like an eighty four thousand dollar trim. So I didn't know it at the time.

It just was a really nice Navigator.

Very similar to the Ford Expedition.

I think their corporate cousins, or something, very similar because I've driven a Ford Expedition before and I loved it. I don't know if I'd want one but

I loved it for that week. What's different about the

reserve from the standard? It is the reserve has like the

full panoramic roof. In an SUV, and I know some mesh

other SUVs have that now as well.

Not just this one. I'm sure a bunch of them do but

you're sitting in there and the seats have got to have, it's one of those Vehicles where the seat controls are on the door.

They're not down by the seat. But this thing had so many

levels of articulation for the seat, like the back of the seat was like this hard shell and everything that you sat on the armrest, everything else was soft and it all moved.

Depending, what you did. In fact, even underneath your

legs, which is kind of weird underneath your, your hamstrings. You can control the right and

the left almost like Rudders or something.

So, I don't know if something or someone has a short leg so much, just uncomfortable thought, that was kind of weird.

Anyway, the vehicles was super cushy. she so turn the vehicle

on, and I'm looking around and said, okay.

Okay, how do you do this? How do you fucking put this

thing into drive? Looking around looking for the D

looking for the whatever, you know, because it's not on the steering wheel. Like why would it be?

I didn't say anything to my wife for a while.

Just kind of look around. I go, you know what?

I don't know how to put this thing in Drive.

So, she starts looking around and it takes probably 10 seconds. But what they've done on this

vehicle is, there's tangible buttons just underneath.

So imagine it's got the, it's got the typical screen that looks like an iPad glued to the dashboard.

Like all these cars have now below that or to air-condition Vents and then below that are these buttons, like these little, I don't know buttons. I don't think you push them

down, you push them up almost like Word rolling up and down a window, the old-school cars, you know, and there's the park reverse neutral Drive thought. That was really weird.

So, we found the drive pushed it down to who engage in vehicle and started, driving off. This Lincoln Navigator is the

most cushiest thing. I think I've ever driven.

It might be, it's it moved straight to the top of my favorite luxury Vehicles, luxury, SUVs, because the Volvo S90 that I had in California was really nice as well.

What did I like about it? Besides the besides that part?

I mean, the ride. It was just so buttery smooth.

This thing. I believe it has a turbo in it.

Yeah. It's 450 horsepower.

And I mean, it weighs like 8,000 pounds.

Let's see how much this thing weighs doesn't matter how much it weighs. It's heavy.

Some there's a YouTube video where somebody Auto moho.

It asked is the 2021 Lincoln. Navigator of the world's most

luxurious SUV. This thing can move and it took

me a while to get used to it because it's so much bigger than your, my Infinity. And this thing has 22 inch

wheels. I mean, it's it's huge 3.5

litre, twin-turbocharged V6. So yeah, this thing gets up and

goes, but this is something you could easily drive across country in the gas tank was ginormous.

Because we drove around and it all weekend.

We were there for like four days.

Took it all the way to Eastern Washington, to an awesome little town called Leavenworth. Those who know?

No. God.

I would love to go back to that place in the winter.

When there's snow on top of those mountains.

It's got to feel like Switzerland.

But Leavenworth, it was a beautiful drive all the way to Leavenworth. Beautiful, drive all the way

back friends. Stay and Newcastle.

So, that's where we spent most of our time.

You didn't have any problem, you know, navigating this giant vehicle around the city as well, which is always kind of dangerous. Right?

So when you're in this big, huge rental car and you're in a city, you're unfamiliar with, it's like turn left here.

Turn right hearing on my wife sitting there and she's like, we got to go to. CVS, I go or CVS.

She goes, it's up. Here I go.

We're up. Here.

She goes. It's up here a little bit on the

right. I said, well, where is it like a

half mile? Is it to traffic lights?

Like you have to let me know. And, you know, it's kind of one

of those things where it's like, you know, just stay over in the right lane. So you get over in the right

lane and you find out it's That for like three miles like why did they just waste all my time in this Lane at everybody's stopping in to take a right protip ride, the Middle Lane and say, you know, where you need to go.

The infotainment Center was plenty.

Once I figured out how to put it in park and drive and all that kind of stuff and reverse, all those buttons are up there, you know, you get used to it after a while, but it's still a little silly. That always manufacturers decide

to change. How they want to do things.

You can't tell me, it's more ergonomically, correct.

You can't really tell me it's more safe for the driver when people have been driving. Like, Normal for years and years

and years where you change it, you know, they took it from the steering column, which is Antiquated, but it's still.

It's at least it's right there to the center column to the shifter or to the little knob, you know, they have the little turn now because left and right sometimes on the center column.

That's what I was looking for. Someone else was the Honda has

the little button down there, to put it in park.

You have to like flick the little thing up and push a little thing, down to go to engage the car.

And then with this Navigator, having it up on the Basically the lower dashboard area underneath the infotainment Center but awesome sound system, the people in the back obviously plenty of room because it's a navigator but, you know, it's like most of The Navigators. It's not the max.

So as I've said before you, it's perfect for for is perfect for six. If you're traveling, then it's

not perfect. Because what you'll have to do

is you have to put the rear seats down the third row so you'll have plenty of for storage, but then at the, at the expense of Passenger space, So, you know, you'd have to kind of kind of textures your way in there.

So for instance, when we go to San Diego, we usually rent an SUV. We would have to do that.

So it wouldn't matter. If I had a Suburban or

Navigator. It's still be the same packing

situation. But, you know, I would almost

consider getting a vehicle like this almost, but it's, it's very expensive. But if you have always wondered,

I would imagine all Navigators throughout the years or always a step up a step nicer than like the Ford Expedition.

I would get one get to use one if Are you and if you have the opportunity to rent one, sometimes they have specials.

Sometimes they put these vehicles and other lot.

Sometimes if you just want to splurge and have a nice rental SUV, go ahead and Splurge for the Navigator because not every rental SUV that they have is worth the extra money.

I've gone to places like when I would go to Newark New Jersey to the elite executive row and I'm looking, I'm like, okay.

Well, I have a few things in here.

I'd like Irish. I used to always grab a Ford

Explorer because those are really nice, too.

I'd look over 9000. Oh, yeah, they have an Infiniti

SUV over there. Well, how much is that?

60 extra bucks a day for that? That's a base model Infinity.

You know that, right, that specific issue v.

No Bells, no, whistles of I'm going to pay extra money.

You better come with everything. In this Navigator was definitely

worth the 20. Extra bucks will be paid a day

for this thing. Total was like a hunter cause

you know, they tack on like, Three hundred percent tax.

So the total was up at movie 200 bucks for the, for the whole weekend. Big misconception.

Also with this thing being 85 thousand dollars.

Let me tell you a quick story. When I first bought my NSX and

people would always be like, oh wow, that's nice.

Must be nice. Wow, how much are those car

payments? And these people are asking you

in there, in there, in there in there, fully loaded.

Escalade. It's like, yo, I can promise

you. You pay more for that Escalade

that I paid for this NSX. I would promise you almost

anything and you see all these 60, 70 80, 90 thousand dollar, some hundred thousand dollar SUVs on the road depending on the make model and trim. And they're looking at you and

your little old sports car. I have a 97 car.

You're looking at me and Mike are like, wow.

I must be really nice man. But the perception is also

taking it to work. I used to never want to take my

NSX to work because, you know, when I'm a contractor, they look at that know, like, Wow, we must be paying him good while it must be good. Never mind that I bought the

car, five, six, seven years, before I even knew who I was.

And it's the same thing. I here in Phoenix.

I would almost never drive-by intersects to work, maybe on Fridays, every once in a while and I worked in the it office.

So is separate and you kind of get to know everybody out there, but still, you know, you don't want the bigwigs walking by and being like whose car is that? Oh, that's one of our

contractors. Ders.

Oh, well, we must be paying him too much.

It's kind of bullshit. Right?

But you know, I always did want an Audi S8 or an Audi A8, but I always consider that a corner office car.

You can buy those pretty cheap. That's 115 thousand dollar car

brand-new and you can buy it for thirty forty, fifty thousand dollars all day long. You pull up to that the office

and they're going to look at you like you own the place.

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JC Converse. Welcome to the heart parking

podcast Studio. Well, thank you.

I appreciate it. Thank you for being here.

So before we jump into what you're here to teach, all of us, including myself selfishly. I have a have a need for.

We're going to talk about. Tell us about you.

You're in a sex guy. You're a little bit of

everything. Yeah, I've been I've been in the

NSX Community for almost a dozen years now though.

I'm on my second NSX, which I took possession of about six years ago and the build continues.

It like any car. It never stops.

You're always looking at something to Tinker with or something to fix. Something to improve.

So my car is no different. What else do you do?

Well, I'm retired. Now.

I was in the alcohol beverage business, for many, many mention, then thank you and then transferred on over to hospitality hotels Resorts. So that's what I've been doing

of late. But a recently retired, although

I have to keep busy. So I'm now a part-time wrench at

we don't lift racing down in Tempe.

So I do a lot of the safety installs 44, The cars that come through there, whether it be Street show drift, raced of, we do all kinds of stuff there. Safety is important.

So today, let's talk about seat belts.

Okay, let's go. Let's go.

So, I first off, obviously seat belts.

Save lives. These bolts are important.

Anybody listen to this understands that, but I think that when we think of a car scene and we think of seat belts, we think of the four-point harness is 5 and six-point harnesses, but there's also OEM seat belts that people use on a regular. Basis and further consumer so

far like myself. I'm looking at replacing the

seat belts in my new Infiniti with red.

Sure. There's a few places online, but

I might be a little intimidated on like I might be inclined to pay someone to take out my seat belts, but I wouldn't because I've done that in the NSX. Well, as far as the seat belts,

as far as OEM, as long as you're staying with OEM Replacements, then you're fine because OEM fits like OEM, it's made for the car. The problem.

Where a A lot of people get into with both OEM equipment as far as the three-point seatbelt versus harnesses four.

Five, six point is, when you go after market, unless you're buying from a reputable, aftermarket vendor.

Now, there's where the trouble begins, because a lot of these seats abouts are not FIA regulated.

There's no guarantee. You're getting what you paid

for. I've seen some horrific

accidents with belts that didn't hold up and didn't do what they were supposed to do because they were basically Counterfeit.

So that's, that's the, that's the number one thing you have to worry about, is making sure you get quality.

So from an oem and listeners, that's just that, that what that means is basically, in layman's terms, the seat belts that came with your vehicle. So, with OEM like, I had a

friend who installed red seat belts in his Porsche.

I'm guessing he probably did what I am looking at doing worth taking out, mine and mailing them in and having them kind of respond and sent back to me, correct.

Taking them out. Can be a little intimidating.

I think for people just in theory because you think you're dealing with this High pressurized thing that's going to blow up in your face, but that's not necessarily true.

It's not exactly. And let me Just for, for

edification, OEM stands for original equipment manufacturer.

So as far as most three-point harness has that are in cars these days, they have an automatic retractor so that if you're in an accident, the belts tightened up.

So that you don't, you know, most the time the belts are slack when you're in them. You can move around, you can get

stuff out of your pockets. You can go ahead and lean

forward but when you're in an accident, those retractors tighten the belts up so that you can't move, right?

It's a safety feature. Those can be a little a little

daunting to remove but it's nothing scary.

Like, removing an airbag then in saying that you could probably incorrectly, remove your seat belt and maybe throw off that.

Yeah. I mean, if you're if you're not

sure what to do, have it done by a professional because it is other than fire suppression. The most important thing that

you have in your car is your seat belts.

It's kind of funny. I did some research seat belts,

were originally installed in cars in the late 40s.

Nash, an American car maker was the first one to install them.

For did it later in the early 50s, but they couldn't get people to wear them because they were just the lap belt.

And again, the purpose behind a seatbelt is, if a car is traveling at 55 miles an hour, you're traveling at 55 miles an hour. Now, if the car comes to a

sudden, stop like you hit something, well guess what, you're still traveling at, 55 miles an hour, right?

So you're going to hit whatever is in front of you, whether it be your steering wheel, the dash the windshield.

Seat belts are there to go ahead and keep you contained inside the cabin, which nowadays the cars are.

So designed that they have crumple zones, right?

And and your car is designed to keep you inside, which is a lot safer than being thrown outside of the car.

Yeah, but still especially those lap belts it cause you're talking. I'm thinking back to growing up

in the crash test dummy, commercial.

Not the not the band people, not those, not that's Crash Test Dummies, but the crash-test dummy commercials and it's just they're always, this is your crash test dummy with seat belts, without seat belts. They do that.

Graphic slow motion kind of scary thing.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Well that nowadays. I mean with the, you know

YouTube out there. I mean if you go see some of the

race crashes that are out there, I saw one word.

Somebody was using a counterfeit six point harness, the buckles broke and he went ahead and ate the steering wheel and dash in its it's an ugly scene. Then you look at the race that

happened, the F1 race, that happened a couple three weeks ago when Max verstappen from Red Bull and went ahead and went off track at 190 miles an hour. Hit the tire barriers generated

51, geez, and he walked away because his car was designed to contain him in it. The six-point belts.

Old is he has wearing a harness for his helmet?

He had all the safety features that he needed and he walked away from a horrific crash. So going back and reviewing on a

regular everyday Community car, commuter car.

Like, I'm getting ready to switch over the seat belts on.

I'm thinking about basic tools is all I really need to remove it. I don't want to screw around

with under unwinding it and repacking it myself.

I needed to have a professional. Do it.

Do you see a lot of people come in with counterfeit?

Seatbelts, and do you think that maybe they don't care, that they're counterfeit just like some of these fake seats because they want the name on there. Well, I mean, that's what the

counterfeiters are preying upon far as a price point in that you, if you go on, you know, Amazon or whatever or eBay and say, oh look at this. I can save myself 50 bucks on

these belts. So I'm going to get them, you

know, rather than going to go to a reputable dealer like we don't lift. We will not install those,

they're not safe. So we will not install, we will

not be liable for that and also, With the installs just because you want to have your car look nicer or you know, looking for a show car. Unless you have the proper seat

going to raise four or five or six-point belt won't work.

They work with racing seats racing buckets.

The good belts are good for a five-year period, so they're stamp. There's a time stamp on, it

going to bring that on FIA is, is documenting that, so if you go racing, they're only good for the first five years, because the belts will deteriorate over time.

Time just because the elements UV sunlight they'll stretch over time and basically they're not going to keep you safe if they're old. So there's a certain way to

install them. We put pins in the, in the clips

that go into the eye bolt. The eye bolts are through bolted

through the Chastity. If you're running harness bar,

that's got to be secured securely inside the cabin, whether it be a roll bar or a harness bar itself.

There's all kinds of things. We look at when we're doing the

install and then when the It's in position.

It's got to be in a position that the driver has complete control of the car so that if the extends, his leg is clutch, is clutch leg. It's bent.

You don't want a straight leg, just in case you get in an accident. Now, you break your knee, your

your, you have to be in a certain position with your hands so that you're not reaching too far for the steering wheel.

There's the something that brings issue, right?

Like, almost like 90 degrees or something.

You're basically like that if you put your hand down, well, essentially, if you put your hand out in your, in your steering wheel. Else, it's just underneath your

wrist. That's the that's a good

position, anything inside of that is even better.

So again, you want to be able to keep both hands on the steering wheel at 3:00 and 9:00 and you want to be able to go ahead and steer it without your hands, leaving the wheel.

So that that being that closed in gives you that ability to do that. So when people bring in their

cars or repair and I know that a lot of your customers, try to drift and actually do things, right, but your Streaker like, I don't try to do those and I was in there for an oil change.

So many, but for the average Joe who just wants to be on their car scene, or do you see a lot of the things installed incorrectly? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, we certainly do. And then when they come in, we

cracked it, you know, car comes in and it's not.

If we don't feel, it's safe. It's not leaving the shop and I

will go ahead and point out to the owner.

This is needs to be adjusted. These needs to be fixed.

This needs to be replaced. And even real.

Yeah, this is this is fake. So, you know, we're not going to

touch it, you we do not want to be responsible if you want real equipment. You can buy it from us and we

give you a discount when you buy it because we do the install.

So, therefore it we feel that there are safe, leaving.

We know that we've done a good job and they're getting real equipment. So I have a street and I've said

this before in this, but again, I'll just use me as an example.

I Have A Streetcar, you specifically for show.

I have a roll cage or a harness bar.

They're strapped to the chassis. I have straw, will just say,

schroth right harnesses official ones real ones.

Didn't were kind of expensive six hundred dollars per sale.

I don't hit the track. I got these five years ago.

They expire this year now just as, and I also have my oemc built in there that actually use from point A to point B, but let's say I don't have that in there, you know.

Do I really need to seriously consider going out and buying a brand-new set of schroth? If I'm in the garage, I mean,

it's a kind of a difficult question to ask and not trying to paint you in a corner, but well, it's not a really a difficult question. I mean if it's a show car, if

it's something you're just doing a H PD e in high-performance driving instructions, you can get away with belts are outdated, that that's not going to be an issue because again, you're not taking the car to the Limit, right?

But if you're doing, if you're going into time attack, or if you're going into race mode, or if you're going into drift, then you're going to need to go ahead and be updated because you won't pass pack inspection Tech. Inspection is there to look at

all aspects of your card. So they'll make sure your

batteries tied down. They'll make sure there's

nothing loose. Going around inside the cabinet

can be flying around, they'll make sure that the car is tight.

The trunk is empty that, you know, you are, you know, the belts are installed correctly there.

If there's fire suppression that, there's, you got stickers, this show the track, Marshals, where the fire extinguisher pull handles are, if you have a kill switch where that is there, look at all that stuff. If you're not compliant with

their Tech, you're not going to pass and you're not going to get on track, but as far as Street, or just cruising or like I said, h pde. If you can get away with

outdated belts within reason, yeah, does your car is not sitting outside in the baking sun, underneath not even a carport, but the apartment in Arizona, for, for 12 years.

In fact, we so one of the show's sponsors is booster bath, which is owned by a fellow NSX owner, and he sent me a booster bath for my dog. So what it is, it's just as bad

system with these legs on it. You don't have to bend over and

wash your dog, which is nothing has like a built-in harness and everything but between last year and this Spring, I went out there to use it and I grab the harness and it just crumbled like a just disintegrated. Like some shit off of like,

Raiders of the Lost Ark or something.

How can people learn more about safety?

How can they get ahold of? You know, we don't lift and or

you at we don't lift or just the shop.

The shop is located in Tempe were on Third Street across from the Tempe Marketplace. We're open six days a week.

Do Monday through Saturday and Ravi Palmerston is the as the owner. He and Melissa James both.

There are co-owners there, and I'm there a couple days a week when we schedule up the the installs, but we carry everything you could possibly need for safety equipment.

We can order in the roll bars, and safety cages.

We could have cages built if you want something custom, we do stock Sparkle. We go ahead and and Crow.

If you're looking for fire suppression systems, we can do everything from a single bottle, right?

Up to a custom-made fire suppression.

That will Care of buyers that your engine on your fuel tank and more importantly, the driver.

So we can do full custom stuff. We've been doing it for years.

Good deal. Thanks JC.

I've learned a few things today. My pleasure.

Thanks for having me. It's time for the Q&A segment.

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life. I have brought on a guest for

the Q&A segment returning. Catherine Cox supporter of the

show. Thank you for finding the time

to help me out with these very difficult questions today.

Steven. You're welcome.

It's my pleasure. First one is Elon Musk or Jeff

Bezos fight to the death. Who wins.

Remember the celebrity deathmatch thing.

Yes, I do. I do I would Elon Musk, he for

one has the ability to completely focus on whatever it is that he wants to focus on and I think he honestly he's more Innovative. And so if it came down to it, he

could probably Bulldog his way through and find some way to get through anything. So someone drops them into an

arena. You give him the advantage.

I would, yes. I find this a difficult one

because 4K, come on, great white.

It's okay. That's that's enough.

Matt that matters. You know, it matters.

You don't know what that. What that dude went through

growing up. I try to do some research and

there's like nothing. There's nothing on him.

He's probably scrub the internet, to be completely honest with you. It's perfect.

What did he play sports? You know, it was he a wrestler.

This is the sum of these people. Like sneaky wrestlers back in

the day and then bezels. I just gave up on him as like,

one of these guys. Probably.

I don't know what I could see bezels as like a hiker or Yeah, maybe somebody who does, you know, I wouldn't say CrossFit but one of those types of deals, so I don't know.

I hated this question. I guess I would put my money on

bezels just because he kind of looks like he may have a dark side Cole. I'm sure he does.

You don't get either one of these guys get to where they're at without having some fucked up.

Shit. And I am right.

You got the money to next question.

I hate this question too, and I wanted to crumple this up so badly, but I'm going to ask it. Is cereal soup.

No, no, do we need to explain it?

I think he said. Why?

Or why not, which pissed me off. So, I just dropped a seriously.

I say, no. It's not stupid cereal and say

it's not. It is, of course, it's area.

It's like, soups not cereal. Cereal is not soup.

Well, it could be one of those things.

All right, you can be one but not the other.

Hey, I just have never even come in the same category ever.

Here's why the answer is no. This is a definitive no Oxford

dictionary. Okay, in a secre, eat it, Oxford

dictionary. No pun intended, says, a liquid

food made by boiling meat vegetables, Etc and water often eaten as a first course of a meal.

Cereal is not soup, fuck off. It's Dairy and grain.

That's it. Fake Dairy, almond milk, and all

that bullshit. I hate the whole almond milk,

everything milk like this shit like you.

This is common sense. But the first thing, your brain

goes to us. Like how do you get milk out of

an almond? You don't.

So what? What are we drinking?

So almond cheese? Okay, exactly.

Almond extract. Next question is, do you think

they should have one average person compete in the Olympic Games for reference and reference?

I don't know if that just means for scale of talent.

Maybe. I like to see because you get so

used to seeing all these Olympic athletes that are so phenomenal and then when they make one little mistake, you're like, oh my gosh, I persons horrible. And yet you couldn't, you know,

even flip yourself. Once that kind of thing could

be? I think.

So just to just to show the difference in the athletic commitment. Like they just pluck somebody

from their living room and drop it in the middle of the arena.

Or, you know, there's always people the armchair quarterbacks, right, right after that.

Yeah. I think anybody that would in my

personal opinion on somebody that, you know, at least giving it their best shot, right? Or somebody that would say.

Oh I could easily, you know, outperform whomever.

They're the person they're saying, should be put in that position and said, okay, go for it.

So do you think they should have one average person compete in the Olympics? I don't think I don't think like

in general, but I do think that if, you know, Especially, I don't know. I know that this sounds kind of

but in today's world how many people feel the right to belittle other people and to say, you know, how much, you know, how horrible somebody is? I think that if you were that

person, that was saying that but then you should be put on the spot and you should be the person, the average Joe that gets put up against these Olympians and see how you do like your penalty. Remember the show closed versus

shows. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, well, that was a while ago.

Yeah, I mean that's kind of what that was.

Now, the pros were Olympic athletes will some of them could have been their former NFL players, former basketball players, maybe boxer. And just people who were, like

masters of their gym, crossfitters people who, who thought that they were, you know, right on that level right?

But I don't consider that person.

The average Joe. No, I don't either because

there's still somebody that that maybe that's what they, you know, I mean, they, they train, or they do something like that all the time. So, It next question.

These are bad questions. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. Blame the people out there for

asking these questions when people out there for not asking questions for the people out there for not asking these questions, but when I get fun stuff like this, I try to grab Someone Like You from, you know, from the audience and say, hey, let's do this. All right.

I like think there should be professional sports leagues.

Were steroids are required. No, I don't.

I think they're kind of, is already.

Pro wrestling, right? That's the secret.

Wink. Wink Ray.

Yeah, just because I think that it's so harmful to the body that I don't think that it should be required at requirement.

Should there be places like wrestling that if you do choose to make that, you know, that's your choice that you realize that it would be allowed. It wouldn't be as it alone, the

nation. Technically.

I don't know if there's a ruling like that kind of wrestling like the show. WWE and stuff like that one

Olympics back. Yeah, it's not like going back

to know you. It is completely bans but

doesn't people don't try to get around it with whatever you whether you there's always a way to try to find that one thing that one combination or whatever that mimics or creates the same type of results are always, you know, like they're one step behind. Last question.

Because Randy koogler Andy, you need to come on the show if you hear this because there's no guarantee that people who submit these questions catch every show.

There's a slight chance that even listen to the show.

So Andy, if you hear this, tell me, you've heard this because I've been meaning to have you on the show.

Anyway, St. And little St.

He's the one who has the Ford Focus, the white one and he has a little tiny Matchbox car version of it.

He takes pictures. Yeah, that's Andy Kugler.

Here's his question. And I've kind of already

answered this in a weird way and another Q&A, but would you buy a Rocket Ride ticket? If it was within your means?

Which he's saying AKA like the SpaceX or the Richard Branson stinging in to go into space. Would I if, if money were No

Object. Yeah, you just had a few adult

money and didn't care about the backlash of everyone saying for that ticket and the space. You could have fed.

You can 40,000 starving people. Exactly.

You could have been kind and generous to the world instead of taking a trip to space, would I? Yes, I would yes.

Okay. Easy to spend someone else's

money, isn't it? Sure.

If I was given a free trip or whatever, you know, I like to travel. I like to see places.

I've never seen before. I can guarantee.

You never been in outer space before.

That would be something that would do.

One of those things. Question is, do I get a

passport? Up there to remember it.

It's no good without a passport stamp.

Where was? I went to, we went to Italy.

One of the places we stopped didn't do stamps and was it Germany? One of the places that we stop

did not stamp because I think maybe because we didn't leave the airport with somebody does and I googled it.

Somebody stop doing stamps and I was pretty disappointed.

They stopped doing them years ago, but you know what?

I yeah, I would and I don't care what people say about, you could spend that money somewhere else. Like that's my money.

If you want to feed The Starving Children and you whatever stand, do it, you know, pay your 30 bucks a month and they'll get their dollar fifty of that and the rest of it or go to processing and into a black hole, but, you know, don't assume that I haven't already spent millions in charity myself, correct. You never know.

I mean, especially if you have that kind of money, why wouldn't you know, like, that's part of it.

Say it, but part of how they don't pay taxes.

That's the charity charity. Right off their, your

incentivize to give. And so you give, yeah, like

they've donated so much more money than I'll ever know in my entire life already, correct? So I'm not here to question what

you're doing with your money and don't question what I'm doing with mine. And that is the Q&A segment.

Shit, it piece like cut. If you want to see the car up

into space. Yeah, we can do it.

If you want to build a spaceship that looks like something that you shouldn't be riding in. Hey, you know, I've seen those

things in videos and there's a, there's like a weird.

I think an ultrasound one that looks like that too, but I see usually women holding him in strange video.

So anyway, thanks, he's Captain. Have a great day you to one of

the Fred playing JC convers and Catherine Cox for joining the show today. So, going back to what I was

saying in the opening regarding the vaccines and things like that. It's you know, it's a tough

situation because again, like I said in the opening a lot of my really good friends, choose to not take the vaccination for whatever reason, I feel like there's two different camps of people who refuse to get the vaccination.

Number one. They feel it's too new.

And they don't trust the science.

And then number two. It's a political thing.

They want to take a political stand.

You know, it's Trump versus Biden is like, I don't really have a lot of sympathy for people who fall under number two. Number one, I get it.

But I think it's a very slippery slope for organizations and maybe even states to require that residents or employees take the vaccination because that starts putting people in a tough position. Like I don't want, obviously it

would be terrible if any of my friends lost her job because of this And so for those of them who have not chosen to take the vaccine, I have thoughts. I think.

Amen. You could do what you want.

I'm not someone who's going to tell you what you have to do.

I just hope the number one. You don't get covid and Parish

or number to your employer doesn't require you to take the vaccine because they need then then you put yourself in a situation of do I want to work? Do you want to stand up for what

I believe in if they think is political.

Or going to compromise my beliefs behind health because I don't trust the research. I'm just glad, I mean, of course

I'm backs, but I'm just, I'm glad I'm not stuck in that particular meant with anything in my life because it, I'm a company man. So would be very difficult for

me to quit behind what I believe in exceptions, of course.

Been to conform. And so that's the other thing.

It's all about Conformity as people think, well, I don't want to do it because it's what they want to do.

They want to control us and that's a dangerous mindset for some people like get it. I get it based on their history.

Logically. I don't understand that way of

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