The wedding, the fire and the experimental thrill ride - Sent and Bent #79

Welcome to the scent and bent podcast episode 79. I don't know what we're going to do for

the hundredth, but we got to start thinking it's going to happen this year.

Getting close.

It is close. I think we had a very interesting weekend, uh, based on some texts from the

guys and I had probably the least productive 10 hours of work in my entire life yesterday.

I don't know what you did, but the picture you looked very, you said a picture to the

grid chat, you looked very distraught and tired. Oh man. I just think that I, uh, you

know how I always underestimate how much work and time things are going to take? Oh yeah,

by a pretty significant margin, my loopty loop thrill ride from China is the next level

most underrated amount of work and time I think I've ever done in my whole life.

Yeah. So you, you sent me a video. Did you send that same video to Ethan?

No, because I wanted to paint a mental picture for him and see what he thinks on the podcast.

So I just sent it to you actually, because I know Chris and Ethan have done a lot of

rigging in their days. So you guys have seen it, but for the people who haven't, imagine

four bananas that bolt into each other to make a 15, 17 foot loop.

And when he says bananas, they're also bright yellow and shaped just, yeah, they're even yellow

and look like giant bananas. Yeah. I live streamed like six or seven hours of this process

yesterday. And so everyone was calling them the bananas. It got very despicable, me coded in the

chat. Well, and that's what was funny for me because you were like, I just can't figure this out.

So I start like racking my head thinking about different things. And I'm like,

if you had 500 to 700 people watching you, any idea I come up with has already been presented.

They came up with a lot of good ideas, but I like, I just dropped the ball every step of the way

that you possibly could. So, so far it's been in my garage and I've moved garages since then

because I figured out it wouldn't fit in my old garage. And then the new garage, I didn't actually

measure the ceilings, but they said they were 18 feet. And I'm like, cool. Well, my thing is like

somewhere between 15 and 17. I'm not sure if they include the base in that or not.

So I'm like 18 feet is enough. And so I'm in there and I, I start streaming after I like

unpackage a few things that comes in this really tight carpet. Yeah. And it just takes forever

to get it off. I bought the nicest, most expensive, big scissors at Home Depot. I could find

they're like Milwaukee shears. Yeah. And still it's just a pain. That carpet is like made out

of something man. So they just wrapped it in carpet to ship it. Oh yeah. Really tight too. So

you can't really fit the bottom part of the scissors in and then with a razor knife,

you just scratch the heck out of it and it doesn't roll your knife and do very well. Like,

yeah, I was switching blades every like three minutes and it just wasn't worth it.

The scissors ended up being the move, but so after I got some stuff unboxed, I go live

and I'm thinking, I'll lift up one of the bananas and then I'll strap it to my forks

and then I'll lower it to try to get the banana to curve

against my, what do you call that back part of your forks? The cage, the cradle?

There's a name for it. The back part of the forks. I don't know what,

if there isn't, I don't know what you call that. I've just, you know, the basket.

I don't know the back of the forks. I don't know what it's called. Yeah. That thing that sticks

up that you slide the forks back and forth on. Yeah. Yeah. Let's just call it the basket for

the sake of the podcast. Sure. Sure. So that was my initial thought. And then someone in chat was

like, well, if you bolt the support to it first, it would be way easier because then you'd have

leverage and something flat that you can control it when you try to made it to the other part

of the circle. And so I started going down that route and I'm like, oh, this is just,

I don't know, like everything is so big and so heavy and I have so much limited space.

And so this was a properly good idea. Someone said, did he poo on you? No, he was just wiggling

around and he was about to fall on the floor. Goose Lee has done a lot of growing this week.

Yeah. Goose Lee is like twice the size that he was last week. His feet too. I look at his feet

have really grown. He's like a little clumsy. I know he was like Einstein when we met. Yep.

So how much does each of those pieces weigh? The individual track pieces.

Bananas. So I can pick one up. Like I couldn't pick it up, but I can pick up one side and put it

onto a dolly and then the other side and put it onto a dolly. So they probably weigh like 400

pounds or something like that. That'd be safe to say. Yeah. So someone comments and they're like,

by far the easiest way is to bolt all three together and then lift it up and then roll the

base one that I already have the one bolted underneath it. And I was like, genius. That

saved me potentially days of work, right? Yeah. So I get out there and the driveway is super slanted

and they're curved. Yep. So it is an absolute pain to get the holes to line up. If it was

like a flat floor like your garage, I'd just bolt it right up. Right. So it takes me over an hour

to bolt these things up. And then one of my neighbor's come out and he is built still building. So

he has a like the wrench with like one of those prongs sticking out to line up the holes. Spud

so he brought out his bud wrench and that sped things up a lot. It was awesome. And so I was

like, sweet, we're totally good to go. I strapped it on really nice. And since I was by myself,

I even put side straps. So from in the forklift, I could pull if it started swinging into me,

you know, started turning. Yeah, I thought I was just genius. Everything was going so well.

I get to the like maybe 10 feet in the air and that's as far as my basket goes. You run out of

forks, right? It doesn't go higher. I thought it was like a double, you know how like, yeah,

but a lot of forklifts are like a double telescope twice. Yeah, I've never actually like

maxed out my forklift before because all I've done is unload shipping containers with it.

Right. And I was like, it would have been so easy to just pull out my forklift,

see how high it goes and then bolt everything before you got it all rigged up. Yeah, exactly.

Now you're going backwards. Exactly. Now I'm going in the wrong direction. And this was like,

this was probably only hour two or three. And it got so much worse. So then I was like, oh,

I'll attach it to the top of the basket. And so I go down, strap it, lift it up,

still not even close. It's like, it's like out of, let's see here, if this, if it starts at

like a 90, it's like, I got it to like a 45, like embarrassingly, not even remotely close.

And then I have it lifted up at a 45. I'm looking at my garage door. And I'm like,

it's not going to fit. It's not going to fit even if I did get it up. Yeah. Because your garage

door is not as high as the ceiling. No. Yeah. Measure that beforehand. How long is that door

though? Cause it, it's not probably a 14 foot. If I would guess, yeah, that's kind of a 14

foot. Standard size for that. And it doesn't even come up all the way. Right. I could disengage

the motor and get that full 14 feet. But uh, M's building a yoga studio. So she has all my tape

measures there. And, um, so I asked my neighbor, I'm like, do you have a tape? So then I measure

the door and clearly that's not going to work. So then I measure the ceiling in the garage

and it's a shed roof like this. So it's 18 feet at the front at the back. Oh, back. Okay. So it

slips the other way, which is actually worse. And so then I was like, Oh no, like I was like,

I could still build it outside everything but the top piece and then roll it in. But I was like,

all the pieces are already outside. So I disconnected them. I put on the support for one

of the side bananas. And then I, uh, was really certain that, cause I can lift it up with,

cause with the support there, there's all this counterweight. So my human body could lift it

up, push it into the forklift. I'd strap it around the forklift, lift it up, and then

just attach it to the base. And I was like, there's no reason that wouldn't work. And so

I go up, I lift it up. It's like just this one piece at maximum banana height, like 15 feet in

the air. And I'm holding it above my head, trying to push it towards the forklift. And I'm like,

this is not going well. I ran out of leverage because that counterweight becomes less powerful

as it gets up there. When it's hanging over, I could lift it up super easy, but when it's like

this, I'm like, maximum. And so then that didn't work. So then I ended up putting on all my ratchet

straps. And once I got it to as far as I could myself, I'm ratchet strapping it, ratchet strapping

it, lifting up the forks, leaning it into towards the basket. And then eventually I get it onto the

basket. And I'm like, yes. Like so sick. And then I realize it's just facing the complete wrong

direction. Like my, my base plate is, you know, level with the ground. And the things that are

supposed to bolt into my base plate are like this. Oh no. And so I drive the forklift into

the garage and that too, even one banana won't fit under the door. So I'm pretty sure that

the entire thing just won't fit at all inside. Inside. The only thing I could think is if I move

my current spinny ride out of the way and build it in the very back, you know, but then I'm like,

how do I get the top piece in? Cause I can't have my forklift sideways. The garage is only like,

it's not wide enough. It's Yeah. I mean, you'd have to,

what you'd have to do is just have something rigged off the side of your forks. You could

drive in like this with the banana, with the banana alongside the forks. Yeah. You just have to build

something that like you could even take a couple of old pallets because they fit well on forks

and then just build a wooden like crane thing off to the side to lift it up with.

You know, it wouldn't, I'm not saying it'd be easy, but it would physically be possible.

I think I have one Ed, one that you could use. It's a side boom. Your forks going like this,

but the boom sticks out sideways. Oh really? Yeah. But he still has the problem of his

forklift won't go tall enough. So it also has to add how far off are you? Like six feet or

something like that in height? Probably maybe more. Yeah. Oh, wow. So you got it. Yeah. You got

to like, yeah, make the jankiest contraption ever. How does your forklift only go that high?

I've never seen one that's that low. I don't know. I mean, it's really, really old.

Chris was in the forties and his goes higher than that. This is a double

telescoping. It goes what, like 12, 15 feet. I think it goes 15. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Mine.

Mine's probably like, like the actual forks, maybe 10. Hmm. Something like that. Well,

what I was really thinking is one of those telescoping like

ones could help because you could drive that in with it down as far as you needed it and then

lift it up and then telescope the forks out because your forks lean back a fair bit, right?

Oh yeah. Yeah. Because if you lean them way back and you have an extendo on them,

then it gets taller. That makes sense. I have one of those too, Ed. The extendo thing,

we used it for building this shop in my house on the skid steer. And I think with that on my

skid steer, we were able to place these ridge beams in here, which are like way up there. Yeah. So

Oh, like the top of this. Yeah. Those ones, those went up with my skid steer

because we had that need so much horizontal space to get far enough away for that boom to

not if you're parallel to it, like you'd still add a little thing off to the side.

Yeah. Maybe you guys need to come take a look because I was like, yeah,

not only straight out there like that, you can be a side beside it and it's,

you could just be at a slight angle beside it. Okay. You know, yeah.

Yeah. I think he just drank some of your sparkling water. He definitely did.

Goose Lee just drank my sparkling water. I'm not sure if he liked it. He shook his head

afterward. He was like, Oh, what was that? He's trying to turn me down too. He's,

he's biting my level on the mix. This is never going to work. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's,

that's actually kind of what I was thinking is potentially like

I need to try and get some more accurate drawings of how tall this thing actually is.

There is a chance it just won't fit even at the back of a shop where it's always kind of thinking,

do you really need the top piece? Yes. Yeah. You really need the top piece, Edwin.

Oh, very integral. You're riding around a loop. In what universe do you not need the top piece

to ride around a loop? Yeah. Turn it into a slingshot. I needed a bit of a morale booster

and for the people watching me live stream for like seven hours and literally get reverse project

like a progress. I'm so much worse off now than when I started. I wanted like a little bit of

a moment. So I unboxed the electric scooter that goes into this ride. Yeah. Into the ride.

Oh, you were hinting at this last night and what I found was very interesting.

It has the speed controller that on every single thing ever that I've seen the face of it is like

a heat sink and it's somewhere external. Like even in a one wheel, it's facing down under

the back tail. Yeah. So that there's even though there's not air flow because there's plastic

covering it, it's still like near the outside. The least amount of insulation around that part

possible. Yep. And of course, on electric dirt bikes right up front, like behind the tire lots

of air flow, getting the air flow on my little electric scooter. It's it's a hubbed motor and

the battery is under where like your feet would sit on a scooter. It's like a moped scooter. It's

like a stand up scooter. Like a kick scooter. No, like one of those like

like a kushman. I guess what you think when you think electric scooter, like you sit down and

your feet go down, but it's not like Vespa looking. It's like janky Chinese electric scooter.

So it's a janky Chinese version of a Vespa. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a scooter. Yeah,

A moped. Yeah. And there's a little tiny like baby seat with passenger pegs in the back. Oh, no.

And the speed controller is wrapped up in that little seat. And you know how my bananas are

clearly used. Yes. And the only pictures online are of my unit and my colorway. Yep. So the tires

on this thing on the scooter are also super used. Like clearly, clearly this is a prototype

that no one else bought and they didn't end up making it except for me, the prototype. Yeah.

And the best part of it all is when I unwrap it, I don't notice it first, but then I'm looking

around and I'm like, wow, that's such a weird place to put a speed controller. Like there's no

airflow. It must get really hot. I look a little more closely. This scooter has been on fire before.

Oh, no. The seat is melted. The paint is like, you know, spray paint. If it gets too close to a

flame. Oh yeah, the scooter has been on fire before. Wow. And so I needed to, I need to adapt

a 220 plug to be able to charge it. Or yeah, I need to do some kind of adapting to charge it. So I

we do get it set up. We need to be very careful around this thing. And I'm going to every time

I charge it, I'm going to be in the building with it with a fire extinguisher. Yeah. Yeah.

This is my far and away the sketchiest thing that I've bought and just a complete under

estimation of the time and energy it would take because not only that, if I do get it set up,

I need to tear it down in like five months to bring it to the new garage. Yep.

So whatever you do to get it set up, really remember that order because you're going to

have to reverse that. Well, what I'm hoping is, is when the bananas are set up or harder,

you just don't know. I But with the bananas, what I'm hoping is I just need to take

the top part out and then I can roll the whole thing out. Yeah. And it's not that heavy. Like

with the top part off, I don't think there's anything

stopping me from just driving it to the new location because I don't need to go under any

bridges or anything. Like if I go by Walmart, put it on a trailer and yeah, I'm going to

definitely drive it and make sure there's not like a low power line somewhere, but I don't

think I'm taller than a semi. I don't know. I mean, I have to say it's probably like I guess

with the trailers with the trailer. Oh, so I'm probably a little taller than that with the trailer.

Yeah. Completely. That's something. If I need to completely take it apart,

realistically, I should just wait. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Then I won't have a

theme park in the storage unit, which is way funnier than having it in a warehouse. Yeah, that's true.

So I think I just did a lot of misstepping and I should have done some measuring before I rented

out that space. I think so. I think that's, uh, and I was like seeing how tall my forklift went

before I bought it. That would have also been smart. Yep. Well, when you bought it, you didn't

need it. Yeah, you didn't have the loop-de-loop when you bought the forklift. So it was mainly

just for unloading shipments is why I bought it. Yep. And I figured I could unload shipments

and then I can also load grind hard stuff because like here we have your skid steer if we order

stuff here or need to load stuff here and then there, you know, if I would have had it on Ferrari

day, we could have just scooped it up and plopped it on the trailer. Right. So that's what my thought

process was when I bought that thing was unloading and loading. Yep. Didn't know it was not tall enough

for a loop-de-loop you didn't know yet. Well, speaking of things that on there have been on

fire, I think Steven's got a pretty good story regarding that from our friend Justin's wedding

that we all went to on Saturday. I'm cursed this year, I think with fires and things like

that. Like weird stuff has just been happening around Alyssa and I like constantly. I don't think

Chris knows about this yet, but so it was Justin's wedding this weekend. So we all show up. We're all

having a really good time. You guys had to leave, but Alyssa and I were like, well, yeah, we'll camp

out with you guys and party a little bit, dance and all that stuff. So we're there. It's getting

pretty late at night. Everyone's kind of retiring towards where their trailers are at. We're all

sitting in this trailer and then Alyssa goes, she looks out the window and she's like,

why would they start a bonfire right there? That's a really bad spot to have a bonfire.

And then she stands up and she's like, oh, just so you know, your trailer's on fire

and there was flames shooting out the top of this trailer. I do have a little clip of it

because I was like, well, I may as well film these things. She was the first person to notice

not the people in the trailer. Well, they might have noticed, but they were. No, they noticed

it was smokey because Levi's wife was in there with their kid and they did not realize flames

were shooting out the roof. They were like, oh, this is kind of weird. The heater smells a little

weird and this all happened really fast. Right. But so we go out there. Flames are shooting out

the top. There's like melting plastic coming down the side of the trailer, lighting the field on fire

and then no one could find a fire extinguisher. Yeah. So like moral of the story is definitely

just I should have a fire extinguisher at all times. Especially you. They finally find a fire

extinguisher. They get it out, but then the field was starting to spread. So I'm running around

like we never dress this nice, none of us, but I'm in like one of my nicest outfits with one of

my nicest pairs of shoes, like stomping out these hay bales and like we got the fire out and everything

was fine, but yeah, luckily it wasn't too dry out there. It was still, you know, because it had

rained a little bit. Yeah. No, because if it had been drier, like and I had 911 pulled up on my phone

because I don't think anyone else was quite responsible enough to have figured out that it

might turn into that kind of situation. But no, yeah, that was, that was kind of fascinating.

Wow. Yeah. Hey Stephen, look at it this way. Maybe it's not bad luck. Your girlfriend was the one

that noticed it was on fire. If you hadn't been there, maybe nobody would have noticed for another

five minutes and it would have just burnt to the ground. It could have been really bad.

Then you might never be the same after that. And the field would be on fire. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

Maybe you're the, maybe you're not the bad luck. Like maybe when the, when your apartment got

struck by lightning, like maybe if you hadn't been there, something worse would have happened.

You'd never know. I think what's really happening to me is I'm just constantly adjacent to things

that could be very bad luck, but then they go about, I mean, maybe not as well as they could

because their trailers like pretty screwed up now. Like four of our neighbor's condo units

are burned technically, but like everyone's been fine every time. Nobody, nobody died. Nobody's in

the hospital. I kind of thought that aren't fifth wheels and RVs like boats where you

have to have a fire extinguisher. I think you're supposed to remember ours.

We had an RV growing up and I remember that the fire extinguisher was always exposed

and it had a sticker saying like, do not remove this fire extinguisher.

Yeah. I mean, you're supposed to have one because no one checks. I'm sure. Yeah.

Mine's got a little concave place by the front, by the door where you walk in that holds the fire

extinguisher. Yeah. Like really? Cause there are RVs. I mean, everything's packed tight.

Like your kitchen is right next to your couch. Right. Right. And they're made largely out of

plastic, which is extremely flammable. Who ended up finding a fire extinguisher? Yeah.

I don't remember one of Justin's friends ended up having one and then they needed a second one.

So then somebody else was on deck with the second one, passed it up to them.

Nice. They got it out, but the flames were coming all the way from like behind their

microwave, all the way out the roof and then like three feet extended beyond that. So it's kind of

the whole thing, but they use the entire fire extinguisher just down in the hole. And then

the roof was still on fire and they needed the second one. Was it pretty late at night?

Oh yeah. That was probably one in the morning or so when that happened. It's a good thing.

It happened then too. Cause if it happened a couple hours later and everyone was asleep,

it would have been way worse too. That would have been way worse. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Everyone was

fine. Was it a propane fire? No, it was some kind of electrical fire from what we could tell. I

don't know. I never went and investigated it myself. I was like, I kind of just wanted to film it

secretly, but I feel like if it was a propane fire, it might have been a lot worse. I think it

would have been a lot worse. The flames are way up. So yeah, but I mean, the whole roof's made

out of plastic. So well, I mean, pretty much everything in the RV is made out of plastic too.

That was the part that was weird to me because like little globs of plastic were burning and

like lighting on fire and dripping onto the ground next to it. So yeah, that was kind of crazy.

Yeah. You should just whip around with a fire extinguisher and like,

I guess I don't know what you do for electricity. Like just, just have a lightning rod at all

times and you just go plant the lightning rod and then walk around. I think I am a lightning rod.

Just like have a 20 foot tall pole that you just shove into the ground wherever you go.

Isn't that basically what the like really serious storm racing or storm chasing rigs do?

Don't they have a really grounding rod that like screws in? I'm not really sure, honestly, but

I think they have a series of them. Well, I know they have anchors, but those are more to hold them

to the ground when tornadoes. Yeah, they have things that like spikes that shove into the ground,

but that's just blowing away in a truck and actually needing to screw it into the ground.

I want to do that really bad. I just think that'd be a cool life experience.

It would be pretty entertaining. Yeah, it does seem like one of those things that's

really scary and unpredictable. Like storms can get a lot worse really quickly.

Yeah, they really can. But the interesting thing about storm chasers is it's not usually the

tornadoes that people get really hurt in. Well, I mean they do, but it's like debris and stuff

hitting them. Most storm chasers die when they're struck by lightning and that can also just be

their vehicle getting struck by lightning because the electricity follows the path of the outside

of it, but a lot of those guys have their windows down and stuff. I would have figured it was them

getting yeeted by the no, that's that's less cause it usually prepared for that. I guess because the

storm, like you can get visual data on it and like all the radar stuff is a little bit delayed.

So that's just helping you figure out where to go. And then you have to be there and be able

to read the situation. A lot of those guys are really good at it and they can predict like,

oh, that storm is going to move this way, like this, whatever. What you can't predict is when

lightning is going to find the path of least resistance and that might be like right through

you. Well, especially cause all these storms that they're chasing are in the Midwest where

your car is the tallest thing for 10 miles. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, that's a really good

point too. Around here, there's trees everywhere. The odds of it hitting you are pretty low because

the trees are way taller than you and more conductive generally speaking. But on another note,

I had two weddings this weekend. So I had a wedding to go to on Friday and my wife was a

bridesmaid in that one. And then the wedding on Saturday, I was a groomsman. So we had back-to-back

weddings and at the first wedding, it was mostly my wife's family and pretty much every single person

I ran into was like, where's the goose? Why didn't you bring the goose? They're like, where's goose

leave? There's these people I've met like twice before, but they know that we have a shop goose

named goose Lee. Yeah. They're like, why is he not in your pocket? I'm like, this outfit does not

have goose sized pockets. And this white shirt, if goose Lee did what goose Lee does would be

exactly a little bit nasty for the wedding. How was, how was wearing the tux? It wasn't a tux.

It was just a tux rental place, but it was just, it was just slacks and a shirt and suspenders.

It wasn't a fault. That was a let down. I was really excited to see you in a tux.

That's what I asked. No, still never want to tux. That was funny though. It might have been,

was it J wide? Or I don't remember who did this particular speech, but like this particular

he's like, this is the cleanest. I've seen this group of guys in my entire life. Yeah. Yeah.

My favorite part was so J white snow bikes with Ethan a lot and comes up here and rides and stuff.

And he's all dressed up to the second like the wedding's like kind of over and people are just

dancing and hanging out. He runs to his trailer, comes out in his Yamaha hat and his flannel.

And I was like, Oh, I hardly recognized you before. And like, he thought that I actually

didn't recognize him before. And I was like, no, no, like, you're like, God, I was making a joke

because you like you dress down so quickly. That's funny. A lot of people did that. Like

people started leaving and then people were coming back in hoodies and like, yeah,

their hats and everything and everyone changed. And I didn't ever do that. Well, and it was very

like it's June. It's supposed to be warm. It was not very windy there because

they got married in a barn out in the farm fields of Washington and it was just super windy all

day. And it wasn't like frigid, but it was cold enough that you were just kind of a little cold

all day. Yeah, I felt bad for you because you kind of looked chilly when I showed up. Well,

you had been there for hours because being a groomsman, I had to be there early. We had to do

photos and get, you know, all dressed up. And yeah, I was, I wish I had been wearing a full tux

because that dress shirt was very thin. And because of the outfits we were all wearing,

they didn't want us to wear an undershirt because like the way we're doing, you know,

we're not like dot buttoning the top button. So if you have an undershirt, you'll see that

line of the undershirt. So I'm just wearing like a, the thinnest white shirt you could imagine.

But I feel really bad for the bridesmaids because they're all just wearing dresses that are just

blowing around in the wind. No sleeves. They're just out there shivering all day. Oh yeah.

It was super cold here this weekend. Yeah. It got down to 34 degrees. Really? Holy smokes.

Sam point out a freeze warning. Yeah. No, we had, we had a frost advisory for here.

Did your garden survive? Yeah. No, it didn't, it didn't frost. It just got close. It got pretty

cold though. Wow. It's amazing for June. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. I have a, I missed one part of my

story here looking down at my notes. So since I was doing all this failure live, people were

designing t-shirts and posting them in Grindhart's Reddit of me with forklifts,

poorly strapped, heavy things attached to it. That's hilarious. Oh my gosh. That's how bad it was.

So, wow. Yeah. Speaking of that, and when I have a spud wrench for you. Oh yeah. Yeah, you can have

it. I have, I have like five of them. Oh wow. Yeah. I'd really like to you to take a look at it and

get your opinion one of these days because it's, uh, yeah, we'll have to all, uh, we'll have to

stop by there on the way to something one of these days and, uh, take a gander because if you guys

think just like it's totally not worth it until I move, gander. Well, I was thinking, I was like,

man, in the, in Edwin, did you this goose in the gander? Is a gander have a goose reference?

Is a male goose? Oh really? Yeah. I it's a very outdated. It's an old term. Not really a lot of

people call it that, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander. It's a saying.

It's basically a goose equivalent of happy wife, happy life, I think, but

are you serious? I don't know the origin of it, but that's how I interpret it. What's good for

that is good for the gander is the best thing I'm ever going to say now. I said we should go take

a gander. I'm going to say that a lot. Now is what I meant to say the words, but you're going to

say it a lot like 90% correctly. What's good for the goose is good for the gantry, but anyway,

theoretically that might be a gander in which case we can take him and he'll figure it out for us.

At least we're referring to him as a him. So therefore it's a gander. I mean his name is Bruce

Bruce Lee or Goose Lee. His name is Goose Lee. It's either Goose Lee or Goose Willis. It's not

Bruce. I had a long day yesterday. I don't know. It might be cold enough today that he could go by

bumps. I mean, you could also call him Goose the Bruce. You know what? I bet if it was a clear

sparkling water, he would have loved that. I think it's the bubbles he didn't like. I think it is

the bubbles because he like ate it off the top of here and was like, yeah. Oh, I know what I didn't

tell you guys. So building the pit bike track on the mountain, the people are about to see that

come in this Friday. But the first jump with that blind landing, even though it's a small jump,

I was still like pretty nervous to do it. Yeah. And so I did it, cleared it to flat like classic

what you do when you're nervous, which you overshoot it. Yeah. Which is better than

undershooting anything normally. And I was like, wow, I haven't had that like, like I don't know,

like when Steven and I were doing parkour when I was really into skating or really into freestyle

motocross, like that, like you're nervous to try, like you're not sure if you're going to do it right.

Yeah. But then you do it. I kind of haven't had that feeling in a long time. Like most of the

stuff that we've done a lot of crazy stuff, but it's been like within my comfort zone. But it's

just been such a long time since I jumped bikes. And like I've only ridden that bike. I was riding

like twice right ever. So like I was unfamiliar with it and like all this stuff. And now I'm just

like addicted. It's dog grooming day. We're swapping out dogs here. Taylor, you're going to groom

geese. Yeah, we have a good start grooming geese. You can you can groom goose Lee here.

His name is goose Lee.

What's that?

Well, it kind of was to he's very personable. One could say

it. Goose Lee is popular around here. Everybody loves goose Lee productivity is dropped by about

five percent since we got goose Lee. Oh, for sure. And I'll just continue to drop as he gets bigger

and gets bigger and bigger chains. Let's build him a little chain today. Yeah. I was wanting to do

that this week. Like last week, we never had a great opportunity, but he needs a chain necklace.

Yeah, I think so.

Well, Ethan, I think this weekend I might have found my equivalent of Chang Lee's. Oh,

what is it? Really poorly designed interior spaces. What do you mean? No,

how does that? Okay, so you know how Edwin loves Chang Lee's because they're inherently just like

kind of bad. I've found that I love fluorescent lighting and yellow tint and all that stuff.

And this kind of stemmed from the new back rooms movie that came out, which I don't think any of

you guys would really enjoy. Maybe Edwin would, but it became really the whole premise. It started

off as like a horror video game thing. No. So it started off as literally just a picture posted

to Reddit of this yellow office building. And then that's what started the whole thing. That's

what started the whole thing. And then Kane Parsons like kind of made a YouTube series based off

of it, which was the premise of it was like, oh, it's like infinite spaces like that you kind

of glitch into and out of. Actually, this is kind of up your alley. You'd probably like the whole

thing. Oh, I'd probably love it. Yeah. But so what I did this Sunday to recover from the wedding,

because I didn't feel good for various reasons. And we had a bunch of time to kill

before this lunch. I was going to go to lunch with my grandmother, celebrate Alyssa's birthday again,

like all that kind of stuff. And I'm like, we have all this time to kill. And I was like,

Alyssa, let's find some liminal spaces around Spokane, which is a great place to look for that.

Yeah, apparently. So I have this album, Ethan, of just the most horrendous tile work you have

ever seen in your life. And I love it. Just flip through how horrible these images are. You know

what's funny? Like how is that? Is that the airport? Did you go to the airport? I was mostly at the

mall. Look at how this this one really makes me uncomfortable. Yeah, that's some weird tile work.

Also, Steven, it's funny that you bring this up right now because the same day that you were doing

that, Kylie and I were driving home from the wedding the next morning. We also spent the

night down that way, just not at the venue. Anyway, we drove past where the old outlaw bar

used to be in Sandpoint, which you probably never saw because it was torn down like 15 years. No,

I probably didn't. And we've driven back past that place a thousand times. And I've probably

commented on it once or twice. We drove past it that day and I just thought I was like, wow,

it's crazy that that lot has been empty for like 15 plus years because nothing in Sandpoint stays

empty that long. So I commented about that to Kylie. I was like, man, it's crazy. This lot's

still been empty this long. And I was and she wasn't around obviously when it was a bar.

But I was like, yeah, it used to be this place called the outlaw bar and it was the most

disgusting, crusty place you could possibly imagine. Literally there were tarps on the roof.

Like the whole roof was just blue tarps covering up all the leaks in the roof. It was the building

was falling apart. And I was like, yeah, it was the kind of place Steven would have just

loved. And it was a biker bar. So you would have loved it even more. I would have loved it.

Okay, look, look, look how uncomfortable this looks like as a place to get a massage.

Oh, how is that legal? How is that operating? How is this? How is this a building?

Yeah, I know, right? Is the tile like stripy? Yeah, are you trying to say that

loving something like a Chang Lee is loving something even though it's bad?

Yeah, no, it's loving it because it's bad because it's bad. Sure. You've admitted so many times

that it's because they suck. Well, I think like, I mean, I love this because it's bad,

but where else does that exist? Where else can you see a weird palm tree on the interior of a

building with a roof inside of the building and weird exit signs and hallways? Like I just like

that stuff. So is it like a gotta catch them all like Pokemon or is it like the mindset and the

experience of looking at it that like draws you in? And I guess what is it for other people?

Like how did it become a trend in general? I think a lot of other people would agree with me

and that the more discomforting it is, the more alluring it is. Oh, like you're like, ooh, I want

to go on an Alcatraz tour because like this is like a yeah, it's like spooky. Yeah, like it's

about like the atmosphere and the vibe. This is just like the wish.com version of that.

But was yeah, so it was literally a Chang Lee of urban exploration. Yes, exactly. It's the Chang Lee

of urban exploration, but what's really funny? That's why they made a like number one movie out

of it, right? No, no, that started from the internet trends and all of that kind of stuff,

which you should see that film. It was really cool that another person who got their start from

YouTube directed a very profitable, very big film. Yeah, that's cool. He also has a lot of

stuff that I agree with because he was like, I'm not going to use AI. We're going to do practical

effects. They built a 30,000 square foot set for it. And the set was so good and convincing

that people were getting lost in the set when they were filming the film, which I think is funny,

but AI is getting too easy. And like, I get why people would want to do AI transit, at least like

transitions in like a human made YouTube video. I've seen a lot recently of people doing an AI

just affect within the video, like the swoops between two different scenes or something or

making something that was, you know, didn't look quite right, like transition to what it's going

to look like. But I used to do it is get two similar shots like before after tease kind of

fade between the two. Right. That was real. But like the AI ones, it just, it just bums me out

and it makes me so uncomfortable. Like I don't know why, but I just feel like with music and

movies and I treat YouTube videos like movies and a lot of other people do, but like

I just want AI to stay out of it. Honestly. No, I agree with that. And what I thought was cool

from all of this is that like that movie was very much geared towards an a younger audience.

And I went into it understanding that, but I still got some value out of it. But what I really

appreciated is that the younger generation doesn't want that stuff. They don't want the AI like

that director was 19 and he came straight out in the interview that Ethan also saw. He's like,

nope, has no place in my film. I would get zero enjoyment out of using that. So I think there

is hope. I thought it was the little clip that I saw of his interview was interesting the way he

said it. He's like, he was explaining why he's like, even like as small as like generative fill

in a photo, he's like, if you're going to let AI arbitrarily decide what goes there,

then he's like, I don't trust that anything else is made as a decision made intentionally. Like

if you're not making an intentional decision about what's going in the background of this photo

and you're letting AI just choose for you, he's like,

then I don't trust any of your decisions because you're not making

your like your creative decisions. You're not choosing it for yourself. You're letting AI

choose it for you. Well, and that's what some of the older, like, well, not maybe even older,

but like Quentin Tarantino, for example, every decision he's made in his films is intentional.

Every character in the background, their hairstyles, the type of clothes they're wearing,

the type of carpeting, like every single decision is intentional towards the story.

I heard him talk on a podcast, Tarantino, about how he was deciding which pipes the characters

would smoke in Django for two hours. He talked about their pipes and what it meant about them as

a character and where they got them and how they were trying to like have some kind of showmanship

to see who's the top dog bounty hunter. And like there's a transition piece at the end where like

Django's is bigger than the one he started with. And it's like that level of detail is what makes

a movie rewatchable. Maybe if you have like AI effects and stuff, but it's a good story, you

get through it the first time and you're like, Oh, that was cool. But like you watch a Tarantino

film like Kill Bill, like the fourth time you watch Kill Bill and there's a scene where

things go really poorly in Japan and it turns into them just destroying the entire gang.

Yeah, you know that scene I'm talking about. It took me like three times watching it to realize

there's not a single cut. It's all practical and they built an entire set that you could move the

cameras through the walls to show each action scene in each room with like one cut. And it's like

you could just watch these movies over and over again and find more and more artists. All the

details you never see the first time. And even if the shot was exactly the same, but it was made

by a computer, even if it looked exactly the same, it's like who cares? It takes the soul right out

of it. Like no one watches robots play chess. No, you want to see a human versus another human.

That's what makes it exciting. And I think it's the same thing in art. Or you know,

sometimes you want to see a human beat a computer at chess. Yeah, because that's entertaining,

but only once. Right. Also, it's only entertaining because one of the elements is the human fact.

That's what I mean. It has to be one of the elements. Yeah. Well, one of the most

right now on your phone. Well, this is competitive video games is Super Smash Bros. Yeah. And

have you guys played it? I guess, Chris, probably a really long time ago. Well, the people who are

like pro are like really, really pro. And so what people have been doing is they train

like AI has been able to beat people at Smash, but it has, it can do so many more inputs and

hit the buttons as fast as they can possibly be fast. Yeah. So they basically went just by

like blocking everything. Yeah. And it's not actually strategy. So what people have been doing

is training the robots. He really wants my sparkling water. If it was clear, he'd like it.

But what people have been doing is training the AI with human reaction times. Like they can

only hit buttons as fast as the fastest human. And it'll beat like everyone who's not pro,

but the pros can still kick its butt. So if it's limited to a human reaction time,

yeah, it can't beat them. Yeah, that's crazy. But this is the sad part is

that's the first I heard of the story. And I was like, yes, humans, let's go.

As long as they're limited to like the physical button pressing speed, right, we can still win.

But what are those drone things in Incredibles called? Brain, wait, no, that's sorry. No,

that's the robots that have the arms and like, what are their names? The little spherical ones?

I don't know what they're. Oh yeah. No, that's a bit of trivia. I should know. So you know how

wow, I haven't watched Incredibles. The only thing strong enough to kill itself is itself.

Is that where you're? No, no. Is it syndrome? The syndrome's the bad guy. Yeah, like Ethan here.

This reminds me of the first wedding I was at this weekend. Oh no, you got a call. No, not me.

Oh, the grandma sitting in front of the phone went off and then she was like trying to get it to

silence and it just kept getting like, I think she like accidentally clicked on a YouTube video or

something while she was trying to silence it. So then it's just like playing a YouTube video at

maximum volume. Oh no. Finally, her partner was like, just give it to somebody younger.

So she, the best part is though, she passes it to the first person who were right who's like,

you know, probably 10 or 20 years younger than her, but still like couldn't get it. Yeah. So

it's just phones just getting to a 30 year old. Yeah. It keeps getting past as quick as possible

or a zoomer and this is like mid ceremony. Oh no, as the brides walking down the aisle,

this phone's just like nowhere near as intrusive as that. But this last time we came down from

the property I got in the truck with Ed. When should I finish my thing real quick? Yes, you

probably should. Sorry. Okay. So syndromes robots. Yes. He brings out the supers. They fight the

robots and then the robots learn, collect the data. Yeah. So as the AI is beating the pros,

it learns how to beat that specific pro with their specific style and then it beats them

just like Incredibles. I mean, that's inevitable. It's a computer that learns. Yeah. It's like

if you limit it to human reaction times, it's still going to find a way to beat you every

time. So the first part of the time I heard that story, I was like, yeah. And then the update,

I was like, Oh, but, but you were driving with me down from. Oh yeah. This is just a funny little

tidbit, but we get in Edwin's car and you know how sometimes things just start auto playing when

your phone connects to the Bluetooth. Edwin's phone connected and it was just playing Hershey

Wood eats a good dog. We got to go viral. Yeah. We got to go viral with this one. I'm like,

that was pretty hilarious. You're getting grass on my I love that when

people hop in your car and it's just playing the last thing you're listening to and they're

looking at you like, huh? That happened to me the other day. Michael and I were going to a

Pokemon card trade show and Pokemon card trade show. Yeah. Oh yeah. It was crazy, Chris. There

was a lot of people there. It was like the whole Kootenai fairgrounds. Wow. This guy just like

really wants my juice. You don't want that bro. You know what's funny is the top of my sparkling

water now smells a little bit like grass. He's literally begging for a necklace. It's in your

blood. You are a direct blood relative of shop goose. So shop goose seniors. I wish

we should start calling him her. Yeah, I guess. Oh, G shop goose. Yeah.

Oh, you were saying, but yeah, we get in the car and it's just playing this like,

like really old rap song that no one thinks is cool anymore. He was looking at me like,

you're still listening to this and I was like, yeah, buddy.

I, I didn't witness it, but there's this girl that I dated before I met Kylie.

She told me the most embarrassing version of that story known to man. Oh,

she was, she was at home alone and then she was going to go somewhere with, I think a

coworker was picking her up to go to something and she'd been watching adult content on her phone.

Oh no. And then she got in the car and it started auto playing the audio from that.

And she was so embarrassed. She just pretended it was, she didn't know what to do. So she just

like ignored it and just kept driving. So much worse. It's the worst version there is. Oh no.

Yeah. I would have just like drove off a bridge or something. I don't know.

You're like, well, might as well just die now. Oh man. Well, this weekend I went back to the

farm where I was raised. Oh really? And it's kind of sad. The first time that I've ever seen

in over 60 years, nothing growing at the farm. Just cause no one planted anything. Nope. Yeah.

Cause your dad's in the hospital and the pumpkin guy is not doing the pumpkins anymore. He's figured

out that he doesn't know what's going on and you know that, yeah, it's kind of sad. The weeds are

like five feet tall out of the fields. Yeah. Wow. It's really different. Does any part of you

want to take that over or is it just too much work? Yeah. I mean, it was, it was sad. That's why it

was sad to me because I felt like, wow, I could, you know, I could have done something about that,

but yeah. Well, the amount of hours your family has into that place must be. Oh yeah. Incredible.

Yeah. A whole lifetime. Yeah. But a lifetime of multiple people. So if you added up the hours,

it's like multiple lifetimes. Right. But it's just, it's just way different to see it like that.

Yeah. Well, you don't want to, to take it over because you hate the climate there,

right? I don't like the climate there. It rains too much right where that farm is. They get 100

inches of rain a year. Oh, that's good for farming though. It's great for farming. Yeah. But you're

in rain gear and rain boots all the time. Oh yeah. And then the traffic there is incredible now.

I mean, it's just, yeah, because it's grown up so much around there. Oh man, it's grown up so much.

It's unbelievable. How far is it from Seattle? Do you like go through Seattle to get there?

It's outside of Olympia. Oh, it's south of there. Yeah, it's just south of Olympia.

Well, that highway between Seattle and Olympia now is one of the busiest highways in the entire

United States. Yeah. Really? There's a sign up there that says how many cars per, it's kind of,

I'm not sure what city is by Pfeiffer, Auburn or whatever, but it says how many cars per minute.

And I've seen it as high as 2,200 cars going by a minute. That's a lot.

That's nuts. It's five lanes. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. Is it a bunch of farmers or people just

are living in the rain? Well, that farm is the only one, you know, there used to be like

six or eight farms in front of that before coming south from Olympia. It's the only one left there

now. Yeah. I think all the traffic's just between all the cities, you know, Olympia, Tacoma, Seattle,

and then, I mean, it's only like another, a couple hours down to Portland. So you've got

that traffic coming up north and south, going to Portland, coming from high five corridor, you know,

and the truck traffic is incredible. You know, the containers going back and forth. Well,

cause that's two port cities right next to each other. One coming soon.

I'm part of the problem, Chris. I'm not going to lie. More bananas. Well, no,

mine actually, my recent one shipped to LA for some reason, not the Seattle port. I have no idea

why that ended up cheaper. I'm kind of nervous to be honest, but I asked for a status update, but

is it going to really be cheaper coming from LA to here? I don't know because I paid just what

was on the invoice and then they figure out the shipping. So it must have been cheaper for them.

It must have just been spaced on a ship that was going there and it was cheaper to put it on that

ship. Yeah, who knows? Yeah. But what else did you do while you're down there? Oh, I moved some

stuff around for my sister and mowed the lawns. I mean, that place when my dad had it was just

so manicured and a beautiful split rail fence all the way around the yard and that's all falling

down now, you know, nobody's taking care of that. And the lawns were like, I don't know,

18 inches tall and, you know, just nobody there to take care of it. Of course, my elder sister,

Virginia, she's the one in charge and she has a lot on her plate, you know, keeping everything

going and she's trying to get the farm ready to sell. So yeah. Do you think the people that

will buy it, do you think it's more valuable as like the land for other kinds of development,

or do you think they'll keep it a farm? Well, it's hard to say because there's

there's an artesian. Chris, sorry to interrupt, you're sitting on your audio cord and you're

probably about to pull it out this one. Oh, there you go. I didn't want that to get yanked

mid sentence. There's two artesians in the upper water pond of that place that pumps

1,720 gallons a minute out of the rocks. And it comes from out right here, you know, down

through the different channels or whatever. And it's super, super cold water. And that place

will never run out of water. It's just it's a huge creek that runs through grumps down the

waterfall and runs down a creek that runs through all the pastures in the fields. But there's,

you know, there's two different ways it could go like the city of Thumbwater could buy that place

for the water, for the water. Yeah, just for the water city water supply. Yeah,

he's getting really close to the stop record button. Yeah.

Come here. Come here. The other way could go is, you know, somebody could pick that up and

it's an incredible farm that the grow the dirt there and then what you can grow there is just

incredible. If somebody was if somebody was smart, what they do with it is keep it as an active farm

and also use it as a wedding venue. Yeah, wedding venues. I'm saying this, we were at two weddings

this week. I mean, it is beautiful. And there's two giant walnut trees that have been there since

well, the mid 1800s. Wow. And they're probably four feet at the butt when they go into the ground.

That's solid for a walnut. Yeah, in between a walnut trees is a giant witches hat video or

what do you call it gazebo? Oh, that yeah, that my mother showed me a picture of and I built for

her years ago. And that's that's still been maintained. My sister keeps that really nice.

Oh, cool. That is like that is the perfect wedding venue and you walk you walk out a little bridge

out to where the gazebo is and it's it's sitting up on pylons way off the ground.

And in between these two trees and it's just beautiful and you look down at a pond

down below and yeah, it's it's pretty cool. And my my little brother's last wedding was there and

during the wedding there was otter in the pond. Oh, really? Getting the fish. Yeah, that's so cool.

So there's there's a lot of wildlife that comes there because of the water, you know,

yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it's a beautiful place and Ethan's right, a wedding venue. Well,

if you kept it an active farm because the wedding venue would make a ton of money in the summer

and so does the farm, but like you'd have to keep it maintained anyway, right? And all the fields

mode and everything. I said because we were the first wedding we were at it was it was kind of

an old farmhouse, but it was just in the trees, you know, like there wasn't big fields out there.

It was it was an old farmhouse that had been remodeled and you know, gazebo and whatever that

kind of stuff and for one night it was 8000 dollars for that venue. Granted, they

had all the tables and chairs and like tablecloths and stuff like that and some of the decorations,

but 8000 dollars to book that place for one day. Wow. Yeah, the place that Justin got

married, which was literally just a barn in a field in the middle of nowhere, like 20 miles from

the nearest anything. That place was still, I forget what he said, but like two or 3000

dollars for the weekend for a barn, just a, just the barn, none of the chairs, nothing,

just the barn. Well, it's a real good thing. We didn't burn it down then, but the point is there's

a lot of money in wedding venues and people love old farmhouses. That's a good idea. And one of my

ideas with that farm, there's a giant barn there too. That's also super old. So you clean that all

out and make that the dance floor and the dining hall and stuff. Yeah. There you go. Yep.

And you've got all the population right there too. You'd be probably charging even more than where

we were. Oh, way more. Yeah. Way, way more. That'd be like a $10,000 a night venue. I don't really

like the population, you know? Well, I'm not saying you do it. I'm saying whoever buys it because I

know you don't want to deal with it, but right. And yeah. And like there's, there's still, there's

one lady that does there. She's growing flowers. And she does weddings with flowers.

And there's a whole section that she has. I mean, it's the only section of the farm

that that's being operated right now. And she's a friend of my sisters and

there you go. The flowers are grown on site for the weddings. Yeah. Yep. She's the one that

could possibly do that. She's pretty good at that kind of stuff. But yeah, but one of my ideas with

that place was to have a little water company, you know, and sell some bottled water. Yeah,

it's really good water. You drink it right out of the wells, right? Fresh mountain spring water

well that's been there for years and sets in our on an artesian and the casing

is 30 inches deep. And it never runs out of water. Wow. Bubbles right out of the ground right there,

you know, nice. What more could you ask for? Yep. I don't know. Artesians, you know, that's

that's what made the Olympia beer. It's the water. Really? Yeah.

Do they get theirs through? I've heard you say it a lot. I guess I just don't fully understand

what it is. Well, Edwin is a well that pumps itself. It's a well that there's hydrostatic

pressure behind the water. There's head pressure above it to push the water out. So you draw the

ground, the water comes out on its own. That's all it means. I was picturing this like beautiful

Roman stone. Artisan not artesian. There's a difference. Okay. Every time you've said it over

the the year or whatever. No, I was always like, Oh, wow. Like this is like nice Roman stone arch

things. Oh, it just means that the water comes out on its own without needing a pump. I've been

picturing like an aqueduct. Everything I do picture in my head is like the magnificent

Disney animation rendering of it. Chang Lee. Yeah. Wow. What a machine.

I still think we got to find a way to buy this. This Ram. I mean, over the Chang Lee's the the

TRX. I'm not even a fan of the real TRX, but of all the Chang Lee's I've seen the TRX Chang Lee is

the best reproduction. Like the scale is even better than the rest of them. All this the scale

and like the G wagon is like super wack. Yeah. You know, and like this one does look like the ones

that you ordered, like really wax scale. If you put real paint on it, you'd like trick people

into thinking it's a better tires, like if you put better tires or small, but if you put bigger

tires and wheels and like good swaggy golf cart ones. Well, this last time up to the property

since you drove the MTV and Steven and I were driving in my truck on the way home, we were talking

and I was like, man, like I got to find a way to get Ethan excited about this Chang Lee truck.

And Steven was like, I think he would actually just like it. I mean, we got to come up with

something unique to do with it. Yeah, for sure. You know, like just having it doesn't really,

you know, of any of the ones that you've brought up though. It is the closest I've seen

Ethan being like, well, maybe like, and it is pretty close and physical distance compared to

some of the ones I found too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you just got to come up with a good plan for it,

but they're not very common. No, hard to get. Yeah. Not very common and hard to get is not

always a good thing though too. No, they're really hard to get right now for sure.

It's really something, but what do you have to say? Goose Lee? What do you got to say?

Well, on that note, I reckon we got to get to work. I think so. Thanks for closing us out, Goose Lee.

And thanks for listening to the Sent and Bent podcast. It's available wherever you listen

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