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Hello. Welcome to the AutoCard podcast, My Week in Cars, episode 156.
Which means, because Steven and I don't take any holiday, so hello, Steven.
Hello, mate.
This is the third-year anniversary podcast for My Week in Cars.
Welcome, listener. Welcome, Steve. Hi.
Hello, mate.
Before we start, I should probably tell the listener the fact that we have sponsored this podcast,
or our friends at Anderson EV have sponsored this podcast.
Did you know, Steve, they're an all-British company that makes and sells top-quality home chargers for electric cars,
and I think both of us agree that, apart from the car itself,
what the happy EV owner needs most is a top-quality home charger.
Absolutely no doubt about it. I am the customer.
I have got one. Two years of ownership means that there's five years of warranty still left.
It's got, they carry seven-year warranty.
It fits on my old barn, but it would fit.
If I were to have a much newer and flasher house, it would work there, too.
It talks to my Wi-Fi. It allows me to control it from the telephone.
I can read what I've consumed, you know, offer a television, sorry, a telephone readout,
and it's perfect. It's got a good charging cable, which cleans itself when I roll it up,
and all's right with the world.
And you don't have to have the charging cable that rolls itself up inside if you don't want to,
because there are a number of styles and designs available.
Yeah, you can just have a plug.
Yeah, and it looks, I mean, they're a premium service as well.
They look after you very well, my understanding is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Listener, you can find out more at Anderson-EV.com.
Steve, we've had a letter.
Yeah, should we start with a letter, because it's a slightly unusual pod this week
because it is a third anniversary celebratory edition.
So we're going to look back a little over the last three years.
We're going to look forward quite a lot as well, because that is the auto car way.
But Gareth Tarr from Chertsey writes to us to say,
in the recently published book Sir William Lyons on Jaguar,
based on a speech the company's founder made in 1969,
he is quoted as saying,
exciting as it has been, the main objective as a business is to make profit.
This is quite good because this looks backwards and forwards in the same letter.
So it's a message this. Thanks for this, Gareth.
Well done, Gareth.
In your report on JLR replacing the retiring Adrian Mardell
with PB Bellagie in News 13th of August,
you make much play of the fact that both are former CFOs
as if shock horror finance professionals are incapable of running large companies,
although you do acknowledge the profits made under Mardell.
The reality is that a 2022 survey of FTSE 100 companies
by recruitment agency, Robert Half,
identified that 42% of CEOs have a finance or banking background.
Other surveys have shown similar results.
If the country's top 100 companies are following Sir William Lyons objective,
should we be so surprised that JLR have chosen finance professionals as a leader?
That's disingenuous. I'm afraid that is disingenuous.
Gareth, I know Gareth.
He buzzed around Brooklyn.
Sir William Lyons was an exceptional human being.
He would design the cars.
I mean, find me a top FTSE 100 bloke that goes out there and designs the products.
He was the heart and soul of the products.
That was the point.
Sure, he knew he had to make money,
but he also made money by pricing them in a most unusual way,
well below the expected prices and the prices of competitors.
So what he was was heart and soul, a car man.
He might have understood about the P&L.
In fact, he did undoubtedly, but he was all about the cars.
I think Gareth himself would know that.
Is there a hint of sniffiness?
Do you think about the fact that JLR have appointed a money person in charge?
Or do you not think that that's a thing?
Well, I think given that there's so many challenges ahead that are expensive
and they're not making any money from Jaguar at the moment selling cars and so on,
there must be a big financial control aspect.
In fact, the fact that Mardel himself, a money man, was appointed,
indicated that in the reign of Bolleray, the bloke before that,
there was room to be concerned about the money.
So I don't think it's a surprise.
And also, Mr Balaji has been at Tata a long time.
He comes right from the center of the company.
It just implies that they want to keep tight control on whatever's done.
But he does sound like a sort of open-minded man.
His first utterances have been really good.
So it's sounding okay so far.
When does he start? Is it November?
I think it's officially November, but he already said some stuff, didn't he?
I think he probably couldn't sleep for the noise of the Indian media
thundering on his front door.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he had to come out and say something.
Come out and say something.
Yes, because Hall Mouse was there.
We were on Zorticaar, India, banging on his door.
How about it?
Yes, give us some words.
It's interesting, isn't it?
Lotus and JLR have both recently appointed somebody from the mothership,
as to speak, to sort of take control of the keeper.
Coincidental, I'm sure.
But it feels like both companies have just gone,
okay, we want somebody from each queue.
Mind you, Lotus has still got Mr. Fong in charge.
The person that's come in to replace Matt Wendell as Chief of Europe,
he's still sitting below the CEO who is Mr. Fong.
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
And he's been around for a few years now.
I'd love to know what he thinks,
but it's pretty hard bloke to interview, I believe.
Well, we should keep trying.
Haven't met him.
You have?
Yeah.
He said hello and moved on.
I was just going to say, did you like him?
But that doesn't give you much opportunity to...
He was perfectly nice, hello.
What should we talk about, Steve?
What should we talk about?
We've got an hour to fill.
Listener, we would normally talk about our respective AutoCars columns
and a bit more besides.
We're going to do a bit of that,
but also we've got...
Well, the past three years...
I suppose a bit of reflection on this.
The past three years and the next three years,
I suppose we've got to think about.
Because this is episode 156 in a series of eight to ten,
which was first mooted by our former editorial director.
Came up with the idea.
Yeah, Jim Hawker.
Yeah.
Hello, Nauts.
Yes, and here we still are, three years later.
The thing that...
There's a number of surprises, aren't there?
I thought that it would be a chore for a start.
And I found that it is great fun.
Yeah.
It's great fun.
I like meeting you once a week.
Same.
And it's usually in nice peace and quiet of your annex
or my dining room.
Yeah.
But also, I think you get generously treated
by the listeners, don't you?
You know, we get a fair bit of feedback.
People talk to you when you're out and about.
You know, you can't walk around Bista these days
without people asking you about the pod.
Yeah.
And that's pretty good, isn't it?
It's great.
Yeah, I really love that.
And there seems to be...
And I don't know whether this is the case
with everything Autocard does.
I think that the readership...
the core readership of the mag
and the core listenership to the pod,
I think there's quite a big synergy
between what we want of a better phrase,
between the two.
I think we are talking to very similar kinds of people
in the pod and the mag.
And I don't think that's necessarily true
of everything we do online
or everything we do on YouTube.
Yeah.
But I think podcast and mag, there seems to be,
we do talk to a core of similar minded people.
Yeah, it's been a real learning curve for me.
The thing that is...
I still don't really listen to pods too much,
but it amazes me how people do it.
Because when we started doing this,
people said to us,
of course pods are over the hill now,
you know that, do you?
And we've just had these gently improving audiences
all the way, haven't we?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And one hopes it'll continue.
Yes, I like...
Because listen, every month I have to do a monthly report
on...
Well, most of the staff will write
some part of the monthly report
on magazine sales or YouTube
and which stories have done well,
which social stories have done well,
all the kind of, you know, just to tell the bosses
how things are going.
And I'm responsible for filling out the bits
on video and podcasts.
And the podcast bit is always nice
because the numbers are always green every time.
They go, how's it gone this month?
And I go, better than last month.
Yeah.
It's the, yes, it's terrific.
Yeah.
Unexpectedly terrific.
Yeah, indeed.
Did you expect to be doing it three years later?
I didn't.
Oh, good God, no.
I didn't have no idea.
But the...
I think you would, as long as...
If I were talking to somebody else
who had a podcast idea,
as long as they had a strong idea,
I must say I would encourage them to give it a go
because our...
I mean, we're lucky aren't we?
Because in essence,
what we do is write a couple of columns
and then rattle on about them afterwards, don't we?
I mean, sometimes that moves around a bit,
such as today.
But mostly we've got current stuff to talk about.
I mean, especially you,
because you've always been in the, you know,
yesterday or probably in some Ferrari
and the day before that, you're in some Bugatti.
And that's powerful stuff.
Not many people can do that.
Well, you're very kind.
Yeah, it's a bit...
Mind you, August is pretty quiet
from the old supercar front, mate.
Ferrari taken an entire month off.
They shut everything.
Well, I mean, pretty much all of it leaders, doesn't it?
I think manufacturing-wise,
they just all shut down and disappear.
They're Germans as well, don't they?
No, do they?
Yeah, so, yeah, listen,
if you have read the magazine
over the last few weeks
and you've looked at the first drive section,
actually, it's a...
If you run like a niche car company,
like a Resto Modder or something else,
there are...
And you think,
what I could really do with
is to PR a story well
and get it out in the media.
There are very good times to do that,
one of which is August
because there's not a lot else going on.
And the other one would be
just sort of late December,
something like that,
because people are still reading
and consuming like normal,
but there are fewer
Chinese crossovers to shout about.
So actually, if you are launching a...
I don't know, a niche car,
I think you get a lot more bang
for your buck this time of year
in terms of publicity
if you want your name in the press.
Yeah, and the most read issues
are the ones through and particularly
after Christmas, aren't they?
Everybody's off.
They dream about the 10 days off
and when it comes, they think,
oh my God, what am I going to do now?
They tend to look online
and read magazines and so on,
and we find that our
circulations go up, don't we?
It's great.
Do you have good ideas over Christmas?
Sometimes.
I find on holiday, I do.
I find...
because it's a relatively relentless business
as you know, you know better than anyone.
You...
You know, when your brain's a bit vacant,
you start to think, don't you?
My problem is, you know,
sort of relaxing somewhere
and then having an idea
and forgetting to write it down
so that all I remember
when I attain consciousness
or stop somewhere where I could write...
I did have a good idea.
It's unbearable, isn't it?
I now keep a notes page on my phone
which specifically is for column ideas
and I just think if I have it
I must write this down immediately
and if that's three o'clock in the morning
and I just wait, fine,
I will grab my phone and write it down
and if I'm driving, I will stop
because it's ridiculous.
I can have an idea and think,
oh, I must write a column about that
or I must put something in my column about this
and maybe I'll be 20 minutes from home
on the M40 when I have the idea.
By the time I've got home,
I'll have forgotten it
which is just...
so you've just got to...
you've just got to find somewhere
to stop but write it down straight away.
And if you don't, it's a disaster.
When you have the idea
you can actually hear the first sentence, can't you?
Or even the first few sentences
if you don't write them down, you're done.
Mind you, I have had the experience
where I've actually done it,
found a piece of paper, written the thing down
and then looked it in the light of day
half a day later and thought,
well, that's a lot of cobblers.
Yeah, I've done that.
I've also done that
especially if I've had a glass of wine first
when you wake up and go,
that was ridiculous.
What on earth were you thinking?
Yeah, what were you on, mate?
Yeah.
But yeah, Christmas and...
over Christmas and New Year,
I'll quite often think of more stuff
than normally
because sometimes I'll get to Wednesday, Thursday morning
when I'm supposed to file my column
and I've got a blank page and a cursor
clicking away and I just think,
I don't know.
I mean, something's got to...
something's got to come in surely.
It's about the lack of pressure, isn't it?
Because you...
because it is a funny job to be in, isn't it?
In essence, there are times when
you're required to just sit down and have an idea.
Okay, off you go.
Yeah, go and have an idea.
And you do because you've got to
because somebody's waiting,
tapping their fingers, waiting for it to land.
So you've got to have one
but it would be much...
it is much easier when there is less going on.
Right, now here,
I know we're going to look forward mainly
but a couple of questions.
What is the best car you've driven in three years?
I don't...
So somebody asked the other day,
what's your favourite car of the moment
or whatever?
And I often think this.
Is it...
is me saying something like a Morgan Super 3
or a Toyota GR86
or...
I'm really...
I know it's not the world's
most complete car
compared to some of its rivals
in terms of refinement and stuff
but I really like the Ineos Grenadier.
But am I sitting here
being like a film reviewer going,
you should watch this four-hour German black comedy.
It's just like...
people just going,
what? I just...
I just want to know if the New Jurassic Park's any good, mate.
I feel a bit like that sometimes
when I am recommending weird cars
but...
but I do have a soft spot for the...
for the really weird...
you know, the unusual stuff
that has a real purpose
and serves that purpose very well
even at the expense of the other things that it could do
and it doesn't do.
Yeah, but fitness for purpose
that can leave it completely unfit for other purposes
unreasonably unfit for other purposes.
Like driving a Morgan Super 3
I went for a walk last night
because...
I mean, you know, it's a nice late summer's evening
and there won't be that many more.
So I thought I'll take the Morgan over
drove it for about 20 minutes each way
to then have a stroll along the river
and I was thinking on the way back
let's get a bit chilly.
Actually, this car was brilliant
for this specific journey
but much more than this
in the wrong conditions
and it would be...
I mean, I'm going to run one for...
I'm going to run it as...
well, I am running it as my daily for a few months
there will come a point where it may be unpleasant
but I don't care
because I love the things that it does do
which is provide real entertainment
and gratification
and involvement at 20 miles an hour
which is what you end up doing too often.
And there's no attempt
to sort of fudge things, are there?
You know, they're not going to give it a roof for you
or anything like that.
No, exactly. No, it's never going to get a roof.
The steering's always going to be really unassisted
but really quick
and direct
and when you drive on a motorway
you know, if you capture a tram line
you know, one of the truck grooves or whatever
a bit wrong and there's a crosswind at the same time
it can get a bit hairy, you know
but it's such a joy.
I love that, that focus, don't you?
Yeah, and so I will accept things
being not great.
You've got the temperament for that though, mate, haven't you?
You've got...
You're not sort of naturally a winger
Well, you're not.
So you ask me, I think, really?
No, no, no, I'm getting better at it.
I'm getting better.
You put...
No, but you sort of...
You just deal with things.
You're good at things.
Well, there's that.
Yeah.
I like the story about that focus is
it goes back to Ariel and Simon Saunders.
I can remember early on in the days of the Atom saying to him
you're not going to offer a roof of any kind, are you?
And he said,
no, we've drilled some drain holes in the floor.
Yeah, I like that attitude very much.
Yeah, it's probably actually the Ariel, maybe the Nomad 2
because the Nomad 1 is from too long ago
to be my favourite car of the last couple of years
but the Nomad 2, I just love those.
They've got that long travel, easily breathing suspension
so they ride well.
The body is allowed to move around
but it's all really beautifully controlled as it does it
and the last time I drove one was around Sweet Lamb in Wales
which is not really fair, is it?
Because it's the perfect place for a car like that.
Did you drive it on the road, though?
Not then.
I have driven one on the road
and I really enjoy them on the road
because you see the wheels moving up and down
but you stay completely calm and flat.
I think they're comfortable enough
but recommending one is...
It's a niche within a niche, isn't it?
It's the people who really want and enjoy those.
That's the same as saying have a Ferrari 296.
That's a rarefied atmosphere as well.
And I find modern supercars too low to the ground.
That's the fundamental beef that I have with them
is their size and lowness
in that they are desperate to scrape their bodies all the time.
Oh, it's a high curb.
Oh, here comes a series of bumps on an undulating road.
The width too is a scary one, isn't it?
Yeah, the width is an issue
and that really puts me off a lot of them.
And I don't think I'm alone there actually, mate.
There'd be a time when we'd stick a Ferrari on the cover
because that would be the guaranteed...
Not exclusively to Ferrari,
it could be a Lamborghini or a high-end Porsche or whatever.
I'm not sure that you would necessarily...
There came a point in magazine sales
where sticking a supercar on the cover
went from the thing you absolutely must do
to something that actually if there was a fast Ford
or an Audi or something instead,
you might do that.
It probably would do that these days.
Yeah, it is amazing the way things have changed, isn't it?
I must say.
What about you, mate?
Best car of last three years or thereabouts?
It's hard to...
This is a tough one for me.
In three years, I've really got to like the body of EVs
and I think the cars that I've enjoyed,
even though they're not flawless, are pole stars actually.
The three and four, I think they're trying to remember.
I get my threes and fours confused, but...
Me too. Which one's got no rear window?
The four, I think, has got no rear window.
I think the three's the one I like.
The three's the big SUV-shaped,
slightly SUV-shaped thing, is it?
Is it like a Velar?
Right. Well, in that case, it's the four I like.
I don't miss the lack of a...
Hang on.
I don't miss a rear window at all.
Hang on.
Couldn't care less.
I'm going to look it up.
Luxury SUV is the three.
Right.
And it looks at risk of offending pole stars designers.
No, it hasn't got Range Rover Velar proportions quite.
It's got a bit less bonnet and a bit more...
It's a bit lower and sleeker, but it's a big luxury SUV,
is what they call it.
Yeah.
So the four is lower and has the...
That's the one with the geely bits under, isn't it?
What, the four?
Yeah.
Yeah, there's something...
Yeah.
Now, you see now, I should know this, Steve,
because this is literally my job.
Well, the Polestar four is an electric SUV coupé.
But actually, I mean, coupé, well, you know,
I mean, there's coupé-ishness to the...
Yeah.
The thing about the four is that it's got a...
The rear head of rail is...
To give it more rear headroom,
the rear head of rail is behind the occupants' heads, isn't it?
Right.
And then that occupies the space effectively
where a rear window may be.
Yes.
So then they have a gently sloping roofline
because you don't want one...
There's a certain angles of back window,
which are not very good aerodynamically.
Yeah.
A very smooth teardrop-y effect is good aerodynamically
or a cut-off one is not bad,
but quite a lot of the angles in between are not good.
So they've got quite...
So it's got a head of rail behind the rear passengers' heads
to keep rear headroom,
but then it's also got a slightly sloping...
gently sloping roofline,
which means there's not a lot of space for a rear window,
so it gets a camera instead.
Right.
And that's the one...
I think that the reason I like them
is because they set out to be modern and they are.
Yes.
And I like classic cars a lot.
You know, we're going to talk about the fact
that I got into quite interested in MGC the other day,
which is a bit of a crude old thing,
but I'm really my heart's in the modern stuff.
And it's what I like about the Alpine really,
although that already feels a bit like the A110 that we have,
but at least it's light and fairly modern.
Because of my age, I think,
and sort of general cumbersome nature,
I'm more interested in accessible cars
and cars that I can easily understand, really.
I don't...
I'd like to think I could own a Ferrari,
but I don't see it happening.
But the other thing, of course,
the thread of the last three years is the people we've met.
You know, because we did James May,
we did Monkey,
what's his name?
Chris Harris.
Chris Harris.
And Richard Hammond.
But the one that stands out for me is Adrian Newey,
who miraculously gave us a ring and said,
you know, you were talking about doing the pod.
Well, if you come round here in the next few days,
we'll do one as I leave Red Bull before I join Aston Martin.
And that was amazing.
It was.
I was expected right up to the minute we were sitting
in Red Bull reception for that to go,
for somebody to go,
actually, that's not going to happen.
Yes.
But we seem to catch Adrian.
He wasn't allowed to work in Formula One, was he, at that point?
No.
Because he had signed for Aston.
So he wasn't allowed to work in F1?
Yeah, I think they were making him...
They were delaying his arrival at Aston Martin,
but he didn't want him knowing all the secrets.
I suppose, yeah, if he had been at AutoCart
and he had signed for a different magazine,
we'd have kicked him out the door and said,
right, you're now on guard and leave.
You may do some road test updates online.
We'll get you to do some review updates,
but that's basically it.
But yeah, he was still going into the office
and doing stuff.
But yeah, we seem to catch him at a point away from
Formula One PR.
Let's put it that way.
It was amazing, wasn't it?
Yeah.
And the thing is, he turned out to be a completely
straightforward bloke, I thought,
who made every effort to answer the question
and who even read motoring magazines.
I remember him telling us how he was a product
of the motoring magazines his dad bought
when he was greatly influenced by the fact
that his old man messed about with MiniCoopers in L.A.
Do you remember that?
Oh, yeah.
And he just carried on.
He also got into the Tamiya radio control kits,
but he became cheesed off with them
because they weren't sophisticated enough
so he built his own.
Built his own?
Yeah, that was, yes, that was...
It was a bit of a good moment.
That was a good moment.
Yeah, that was a good moment.
You said a minute ago,
and I don't know how much time we want to talk about this.
There's the new stuff.
Yeah.
The poll stars, the...
Where do we...
Where does AutoCar and this pod,
the brand in general, for want of a better phrase,
how do we pitch ourselves going forward?
How much do we cover the new stuff?
How much do we cover the weird off-the-wall stuff?
Because AutoCar has to cover everything.
Yeah.
Once upon a time, that was quite easy
because everything was quite limited.
Yeah.
And it was all heading in the same direction, wasn't it?
And it was all heading in the same direction.
And now I think the market is diversifying quicker
than I ever imagined.
I did...
I think I did right at one point.
Look, there's going to be boring everyday cars.
That may not be boring, actually,
but there'll be, you know,
there will be the stuff.
And there will be the interesting stuff.
And those two may differ quite widely.
And I wonder if they are differing more widely
and more quickly than I had expected.
Yeah.
Well, it is...
I mean, it is no secret to anyone that's listening to this,
I guess, that we have a wider field to select from
than we ever did, don't we?
And...
But I suppose what we have to try and do is judge
people's new cars on their results.
You know, you look at the legal situation that obtains
a legal and financial situation
and you look at people's solutions to these challenges
and you try and choose the ones that work
within an envelope that says we also should, you know,
try them all.
But maybe you give emphasis to the ones that work best.
It seems to me at the moment that there's a big debate
about, you know, engine noise or no engine noise.
That seems to me to be so implicit in...
You know, we've had letters.
We were talking about it earlier, weren't we?
We've had letters from people saying,
well, you don't really do what I expected anymore,
so cheerio.
And that is very, very sad indeed,
because we don't like that at all.
And there's a part of you that thinks,
well, hang on, perhaps what should we have done
to satisfy that person?
But the trouble is he just needed more V8s.
There aren't any.
No, there are not.
And in fact, we have done features
on which V8s you can still have.
So I mean, those features are there.
They are.
Yeah, they are there.
But yes, the first drive section is not full of them
like it used to be.
But maybe one thing that we could be doing
is making more of the driving challenge
of the latest EVs, for instance.
You know, one of the things I regret
is that I have foolishly not organized
to drive an Alpine A290,
even though I'm interested in Alpenes
and I have a Renault 5 as a long-termer.
And from what I hear from you,
first out and others,
is that it's a pretty decent little hot hatch.
So maybe we need to stress that kind of thing
and pounce on the cars of that elk that come along.
Yeah.
But part of AutoCars Remit, I think,
is to be saying,
you know, driving remains fun.
It does. In the Renault 5, I have fun.
I really do.
So we...
I don't know how we...
Maybe we need to up the, you know,
scatter a few more adjectives around,
get a bit more animated about it.
Well, the cars are getting better, aren't they,
in terms of...
So as Hyundai said,
currently it's asked of the last people
who are being talked to by EVs,
generally, as a rule.
So they introduced the Ioniq 5N
and the 6N is soon to arrive.
And the A290 has sort of rejuvenated
the idea of the hot hatch back.
The hot hatch is back, I think, you know,
in terms of the A290.
So we're...
We've got a report on all of these things,
but we are perhaps at a...
We have been through a couple of years
and the cars have been less interesting to drive.
And also,
some of the more interesting cars to drive
are being legislated out of sale.
Yeah, there's been a lot of that.
Yeah, there's been a lot of that.
So it is a...
It is a patch, I think.
But there is some very good stuff arriving.
I suppose the thing that we...
One would say to the life-long car enthusiast,
I always talk about auto cars
being for the life-long car enthusiast.
And I suppose you would encourage people to believe
that this may not be the perfect era
compared with the one that produced
the first Golf VR6 or something.
But this is just an era
and there'll be another era
and it'll be better or worse than this.
But you just got to live with it,
live through it as it were.
That's what I do, anyway.
I'm never going to give up my enthusiasm for cars
just because the cars may not suit me
quite as much as they did before.
Yes, and the next...
Lots of used cars about anyway.
Well, that's the other thing,
is that those other cars still exist.
Your Carrado VR6s.
I saw one on the motorway the other day
and I got very excited about a Carrado VR6
coming past me, as you might well imagine.
I thought that was...
What was I in?
What was I driving?
Maybe I was in that Audi Q7.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, the one, the V12?
The V12 TDI, yeah.
Which there will be a story about
and some other stuff in the magazine in the coming weeks.
That has looked more and more a freak,
I've made that thing.
Yeah, doesn't it, just?
V12 diesel.
V12 diesel.
I mean, what a cool thing, but also...
What was the damage for that, you know?
What would it cost?
I think they were 100...
What now, as a classic?
Oh, I don't know.
There aren't many around.
Do you reckon it'd be 40 or 50?
Yeah, probably.
Let's have a quick look on AutoTrader
and see what it says.
But there was a...
This one had what they called
the concept interior, do you remember that?
Yeah.
Which had sort of
a teak-convenient boot floor
and seat backs and stuff like that.
Which I have a feeling somebody said
was a 40 grand option
and the car was maybe
100 and something at the time.
So it was a real...
I don't know, I don't know how many of those cars came to the UK.
I would think not very many.
But I will have a look.
We've been nattering on me.
It's probably about time that we did the half-time break
in which, listener, you will not go away to a break
but you will hear me
tell you that this is the AutoCart podcast,
My Week in Cars,
and it's brought to you by Anderson EV,
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I can also tell you that AutoCart
is running its drivers of change
scheme?
Program?
There's a word I'm looking for.
There's a word I'm looking for and I can't
because I'm a journalist but I can't think what it is.
If you're in the first two years
in the motor industry of any kind
then you're making a difference
then drivers of change is for you.
Or if you are in the industry yourself
and you know somebody who is
then you can put them forwards
and it's going to be an event in November.
I think it's at the Stalantis HQ
in Coventry where we will also
I believe be handing out
a gong to the
oh there's one TDI V12 for sale
in the UK according to AutoTrader
for the company
that is making the biggest difference
and promoting young talent.
Audi Q7,
6-litre TDI V12 tiptronic
151,000 miles.
It's quite a lot.
It's a 2011 car so that's pretty
it's pretty straightforward.
24,989 pounds.
It's not bad is it?
25 grand for a
6-litre V12?
Four former keepers
service history, MOT till July next year
HPI clear
500 horsepower, 6-litre TDI
Quattro, Audi infotainment
with sat nav, 6 CD auto
changer, multimedia interface
dual zone climate control
over 100,000
pounds new
believed to be one of 44 models
sold in the UK
and I don't know how many of those are still around
What miles is on the car you've got
or have had?
I think like 27,000
I think it had
maybe it always been an Audi
which retains it
but I think it's always been
low miles.
Cool thing.
24 to the gallon which is not
amazing. The thing I like best is that
you're I mean we suppose we shouldn't
blow the gaff on this story too much
but I mean it'll confuse people
anyway but
if you
your original choice for
this feature that we're going to be
running is
was a Tesla.
I was thinking of bringing a Tesla base to this feature.
I was sort of arguing
I was
you can make an argument about this stuff however you try
my argument is
this is the most significant car of the past
25 years.
And so
yeah I could have made a case
I'm very happy to
I'm very happy to argue whatever
case you know
whatever case I have at the time.
But it did start something extraordinary. I mean that's
the Roadster or the Q7. The Roadster.
The Roadster did. Yeah it did.
But you're a fantastic argument
which I hope is
in the story that's forthcoming. I hope so.
Yeah. You're
you argued like a damn politician.
Well I thought about it carefully.
Who was it?
Well
it's a premium car right and
what cars have had
greater success in the past 25 years
than premium cars. In
turn of the century Audi
BMW, Mercedes were selling
I don't know 500,000 to a million cars
800,000
cars a year each. They would each expect
on a good year to do
nearly pushing 2 million
now. Most of that growth has been
caused by the SUV
as well. And the Q7
was Audi's first SUV
and
6
over 50% of all cars sold at the SUVs
in most markets these days
and also I mean they're not all
not all Q7s
V6 TDIs but
what a significance
the Volkswagen Group
and other companies since
the diesel gate scandal has had
on the car market since
2015-2016. Yeah I know
I think it was
brilliantly argued. If you want to encapsulate
yeah
this quarter of a century into
I have to feel I was slightly spoiling the feature
which is due in the magazine very soon
must be a couple of weeks, mustn't it?
Yeah that happens
late September I think
this very day has sent us some
instructions about further input
further writing that we need to do
yes that we'll do when we get home
did I forget to mention anything else at the half-time break
that I should have done? No I think you've done a fabulous job
if it was a half-time break
well it sort of was yeah we've picked up from where we left off
autocartatheymarket.com
is how you can write to us
and actually we'd like you to
write to us
with the answers to
some questions. Oh yeah we've got three questions
haven't we? Tell me what they asked
well the
here we are at the end of three years
the pod seems
to be perfectly healthy but we
would like to think we could make it healthier
and even more relevant
so one of them
concerns the name it's been for three years
it's been known as My Week in Cars
but we do wonder sometimes
whether it should be just called the autocar
podcast because it is all about
autocar we represent
autocar it is an autocar asset
autocar autocar autocar
should it be the autocar podcast
opinions please
I wonder how many people just call it the autocar podcast
well I think a lot
I'll bet you a lot
and then
excuse me then there's the matter of
length you know we started off
ruthlessly
keeping this thing to half an hour
didn't we and then well we were supposed to
I was told very specifically half an hour
not more than 35 minutes
definitely not more than 35 because the data analytics
says there's a
drop in listenership
where people get home from their commute
or their dog walk and you can see
that X number of people listen for 34 minutes
and actually
that then starts to take off so
we did see that didn't we
we did see that a bit it's harder to see
the analytics for that
right now I'm not sure
I'm not sure it's still the case
but it did happen to be back then
and does it matter
well we love to hear from
people about that
and the other one is we
I am conscious
that you do much more reviewing of cars than me
I do a bit you do a lot
and I just wonder whether we
should make more of your reviews on this pod
because
I always want to hear you rattle on about cars
we don't talk too many
reviews do we
anyway those three things
AutoCar at Haymarket.com
is how you can contact us
listener or you can find
Steve
Steve's email address and my email address
at the end of our columns in
the magazine you can write to us
they will drop into our inboxes
and without being too rude
about it
relatively brief answers are
helpful
yes well because
let me just
sorry this is
man opens page on computer
which is not a great radio
I understand but if I open the
AutoCar inbox
as it is we do we really do try to
see all of it
Steve your wifi is not playing pool with this
here it goes 61,912
unread emails
and that's unread
and we try to
read all of them
we see them all
some of them are very obvious that you
don't want to answer
there's one at the top for example
which says
which is from somebody in PR which says
hi Lewis will you be joining us
there's no Lewis
on this magazine
there's another one
press releases
go unread
an email from you
listener
we will try to find
for example Tony Griffiths
writes to say
this has arrived
four hours ago
writes to say
could you please tell me what a cooking model
is in regards to all Tony Griffiths
I can tell you what a cooking model is
Tony
I first came across it when I started
reading car magazines when I was a kid
and I thought what does a cooking model mean
it means ordinary
like cooking apple isn't it
or cooking sherry
just means the stuff that you would
not special
that's what it is
it's sort of basic
basic thing
so that's in the inbox
but listener if you
maybe put podcast in the subject title
that would be
helpful then we'll see it
much more likely it's it
or if you do have a copy of the magazine
which you can find on the newsstands
as it has been for the last 130 years
then you can write to Steve
or me directly and it will arrive
in our own inboxes
and we're much more likely
although still not guaranteed
because quite a lot of
Chris who monitors this stuff
is pretty good at passing things on
he should be running the country actually
yes he should be
he's very helpful
here is another one
in the spirit of looking forward
what would you like to happen next year
in the next pod year
in the next
in the motor industry
I would
like
I would
like government to say that
GSR2 is optional in the UK
but you don't have to have steering assist
defaulting to on
or speed limit bongs defaulting to on
when so often they are wrong
and that grinds my gears
as the phrase goes
and that is
what would I like
I would like
acknowledgement that
cars are quite a good way of getting around
actually and rather than
rather than governments
national telling me that we shouldn't
I would like an acknowledgement that
actually they're really useful
there's a lot more people
trying to go places than they used to be
UK
productivity is not very good
and part of the reason for that is because
people spend so long sitting going nowhere in traffic
and actually
maybe we need to build a few more roads
to go places and the idea that
roads just generate traffic
well one that's the point
is that you
it's not surprising
when the population
is 20% bigger than it was 20 years ago
and you're focusing it on the south east
because that seems to be where
most of the money is
people have to live and work there
because that's where the jobs are
so if you are increasing the density of people
give them the opportunity to go places
what a good one
is what I would like to see
what I'd like to see from the car industry
I think
I think we might get it too
I think we might have passed a threshold there
I just want to see
a
positive outcomes to both the Jaguar
and the Lotus question
particularly the Lotus question
I am willing to believe that
despite
ups and downs
and some
not
don't be rude
I'm not sure that everybody
working on the Jaguar job
is doing a brilliant job
I think the actual
the designers and engineers I'm prepared to trust
but Lotus worries me
because I do not see
how
I just don't see it in the eyes
of the gily people
that Hethel has
got the future that we thought it did
and I also don't know
whether
people who think they know what a Lotus is
reckon that that's an emeer
and so on
so
wrong cars, wrong place
wrong
wrong mission
really that's
who's buying
100,000 to 150,000
pound big EVs
yeah nobody
I mean not enough of people
I suppose
I would think that if you were Jaguar
you would having said which
nobody says that these
big Lotus are bad cars do they
no not at all, not at all
I don't know if I was talking to you about this
the other day on the pod
those interiors
have nothing to fear from
anybody south of Rolls Royce
Bentley I think
that would be
that would get Jaguar's attention
because they need to do it as well
yeah
but the trouble is
I just don't know anybody
who's in the market for those cars
no I do
no
hello Jason I do have a mate who does have
the Lotus SUV
is that the emeer or is that the
because there's the saloon
in the SUV isn't it
but anyway there was
that was here's your company car allowance
of X100 quid a month
how are you going to fill it
and he just basically went to a bunch of dealers going
this is what I've got
this is what I've got can you get me a car
and a Lotus dealer said yeah
we can get you a car for that
I think the alternative might have been
something like a Range Rover Sport plug-in
or something because it's got to be
a largely electric whatever
whatever he has
but that's the market for those cars
is he pleased
yeah he likes it
yeah it's a good thing
and yes has the range
you know has the range he needs to go from
sort of home counties up to Manchester once a
once a week you know
I just wish someone had come over
the horizon and
Lotus and it was just
a nice open face convincing person
and say don't worry
we've got it in hand and here's the shape
of the future
and it's not I just don't
see it happening
so
my slight problem
with this week Steve is that we didn't
really have
because listener I'll tell you a secret
we haven't written the columns that this
pod is talking about because it's the third
anniversary pod we are not going to talk
about what we usually talk about
which is our columns and I was thinking
to myself will we fill an hour
if we've got no columns to talk about
how's this going to go
we've done 50 minutes so fast Steve
I haven't actually asked you about the one thing
on my running order which is driving
an MGC which you did recently
that's the
literally the only thing I have
effectively on my running order 50 minutes in
I haven't asked you about it yet
well funnily enough it was
a surprisingly
instructive experience
I was coming back from the
Aston Martin
gathering at Gaiden that I went to
and talked about last week
and I was driving along
and pulled up on the verge was a bloke
in an MGC or
what I thought was an MGB
and as I went past I realized
that it was somebody that I
slightly knew from a
you know from Prescott I think
so I pulled up
and went back to see what I could have
and two things that happened to him one was
he'd been trying to creep along
to get home
on the whiff of an oily
rare because he didn't have much fuel
and he couldn't go into a filling station
because the battery was so sick
that he knew that if he turned it off
as they would require him to do in the
service station
he wouldn't turn it back on again
and the car made up at the decision
for him by conking
running out of fuel
but luckily because
I was in the Raptor
and I've got this
conceit about carrying spare fuel
and a little
set of jumblies
so we were able to get it going
in a matter of moments and he said
and I was rattling on about how I like MGCs
I like the notion of them
a three litre six cylinder engine
in a little skinny body
he said we'll drive it home
because we were both heading 15 miles further south
so I did
and it was good, it was surprisingly good
it was completely different as you can imagine
from the board
and eyeing him in the Ford behind me
you know taking up most of the road
but
you know it's a little skinny car
and your bum's on the floor
as I like
and it was an overdrive version
and they've got
three litre
extremely low tune engine
loads of torque
pulled well
like the noise
so I enjoyed it and it was
kind of
instead of paying 60 for a Healy
you pay 20 for one of them
and I thought this is good
I've always liked the MGB
the MGB
was very well packaged in its day
it was much roomier than
sports cars were supposed to be
you know shamed and E-Type
for instance
particularly good leg room
and so
I enjoyed it and scratch an itch
never driven one before, now I have
would you have one?
just about
I don't know
the steering committee here always says the same thing
you know
what would be the role that this fifth car
would fulfil
and there is a point where
you can't see yourself
reusing it and that would be my problem
but if I were looking for
a British sports car
I would give it a go
it was interesting I went to a track day
with the Alpine few
a couple of months ago
there was a bloke there with an MGC
and he was telling me this tale about how
when the car was launched
the company got
stated the front
tyre presses wrongly
so that
everybody adjusted the tyre presses
to what they thought were the correct ones
and of course it understood very badly
the tyre wall deflected
but there were kind of eight PSI
I don't know what they should have been about
so apparently if you pump them up
correctly they handle a bit better
I mean there is still this
mighty overhang from a long engine over the front axle
but
seemed an interesting car I liked it
yeah I've always liked the idea
of them
and that sort of struck me as a
changed up at 2.5 and off it goes again
yeah the idea of
they all struck me as very usable
classic because there's so much
there's so many bits you can still get
for them you know you can replace
the entire thing with effectively new bits
if you really wanted to
there is a new shell isn't there
yeah Margie I hear
that they are because they are still
made from the original tooling
that they require some work
so he says Sam
hello Sam who I know
who's gone
yeah he said it had a heritage shell delivered
then sent it off for a restorer
to put the bits from his old car
into the new shell
he said it took some
yeah it's going to take a little
we need to strain it a bit first
this new shell
but it looks terrific
and it's just such a usable
classic
it was good I just liked
the
this bloke's difficulties
took me back to my own
bouts of incompetence
when you know as a
younger person when you know
running out of fuel and the batteries
yeah we've all been there
we've all been there
what is left to talk about
five minutes left are we just about there
you've got a bigger
list than me of things that we were going to discuss
in this pod
I've got written down here
the future but
the thing that I have got written down here
is a bit of humility and a bit of gratitude
I mean we
this thing has done, has amused
you and me
far more than we ever expected
and it is only
that can only have happened because of the support
we've had from
all the people who listen
and it would be silly
to say we were deeply grateful wouldn't it
100% yes
I can't believe they let us do it
do you know what I mean
at some point
somebody is going to turn around and say
stop doing that
stop wasting your time doing that
get on with your work
why are you just sort of mooching across
you know quite a nice drive
to sit with one of your mates
and chat for an hour
and then go over again
why are we paying you to do that
actually that is part of it
as well as all the joy of
you know
the evidence we have that some people
enjoy this
it's the drive to here and there
with this
weird paraphernalia
that we carry to
it is useful testing time
I've come over in an LP in A110 today
and I haven't driven one for some time
is it a GT?
no it's a
sorry it's a GT
so that's
the 292
whatever they are
mine's a 250
and it's good fun
good
yes what is there else to say
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good on you Keith
and that
yes I think, oh I mentioned the archive
Autocuz 130 years old this year
the digital archive has been online
for a little while and it is amazing
if you haven't subscribed
go and have a look and in fact
if you haven't subscribed but you're thinking well
I would like a little
taster of a look before I do
by a copy of the magazine
and chris calmer writes
from the archive page
and I believe that page has a little qr code
and
you can click that qr code and you can
read the feature he has written about
free of charge and we do occasionally put up
archive features
for naut as a little taster
but it's just
is a joy in it
actually the thing I ought to do is
have a way through the MGC stuff
I'll bet you there'll be 60 pages on the MGC
there'll be loads
there'll be full tests
what was the car that we were looking at
I think it was Ford Capris we were talking about
probably a year ago
and I started having a look through the archive at the Capris stuff
my goodness
you can find every test of not just
because there's not just the standard Ford
there's all like the
aftermarket, broad speed
racing stuff
so that's at themagazineshop.com
the magazine
is on the newsstands
as it has been weekly since
1895 I can't say every week
because if I say every week somebody will write in
actually there were a few weeks
during the 1970s
and there were paper shortages
so there's some very very few magazines
were not published
mostly
you would say if you rounded it up
you would be quite confident in saying 100%
at the time
the website is at
autocard.co.uk
YouTube has got a Bugatti W16
Mistral
review on it at the moment
then actually that's published
two days after this recording
so it's actually been up there a while
but I recommend it to you
it's a sort of ode to the W16
it's about to depart
sounds good
we need to get him on here
so yes
anyway listen
thank you so much for three years
we'll be doing it for at least another three
thank you
it's been super and we'll carry on
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