THIS Shop was RAIDED by the FBI | F_cking Cars Podcast Ep. 1

Hey, f***ing cars.

So what are you been working on this week?

I was working on the 66 Mustang here.

It's got an Art Morrison chassis, so there's a lot of adapting that the body needs to be,

like that is making front inner fenders for it.

And I'm making them removable, it's got a coyote in it so that you can service the

engine because it's still over at Cam and you can't even get your hands in there.

It's like a lot, a lot of tightness on it.

But yeah, we've got the inner fenders done.

I made some upper control arm gaskets that are fit nice and tightly to the Art Morrison

chassis.

Yeah, it's pretty, there's a lot of in and out of the engine bay, so I'm kind of over

that for the month, I think.

Need to do some drive shafts or some transmission tunnel work on Friday.

But yeah, I'm done crawling in and out of the engine bay for the month, I think.

On the Art Morrison's, do they do like a Mustang 2-based or do they have like a total

different front suspension on that?

I think it's, I don't think it's a Mustang 2-based.

It looks like their own suspension.

The back is a four-link.

It's pretty heavy-duty stuff.

I mean, it's really nice.

But it's, the Mustang never really had a frame, so you got to, you know, it's your

ace in everything from the floor, front to back.

And so I made the firewall, inner fenders, I made the front bumper, the headlight

eyebrows that were made on a pop metal, remade them on a steel and welded them all on.

And so then when you do that, then you have to refloat the headlight behind it because the

pop metal was how the headlight was mounted.

So the customer is kind of, you know, if we both think it's cool, he's just all game

for it.

So definitely thankful for him.

But yeah, it's pretty, the car's taken, it's a pretty heavy-duty car as far as

like everything else in the shop.

It's probably like the most involved car, so we just try and balance budgets and allocate

about two weeks, two to three weeks on it per month.

And then we bounce around to other stuff, too.

So next week I'll be working on 32 Brookville Roadster.

I have everything pretty much fit.

Somebody bought it in pieces and they're trying to piece it together.

Usually Brookville does that themselves.

And this needed all that work and it's a lot of fitting.

So now I'm back to, I'm down to like welding stuff together so we can get that thing over

to bodywork and get that thing painted black.

Over to bodywork.

Is that still you?

Oh yeah, that's still us, sorry.

On the other side, there's a curtain here where we have our, my wife does all the

body prep work over there in our booth in the prep areas right kind of on the other

side of the computer here.

Oh, gotcha.

That's pretty sweet.

I guess since you're working on that, I probably won't bring up the oil change on the minivan

today.

But this weekend, it's fucking cars.

It is fucking cars.

This week I've been laying down the root pass welds and trying to get all the geometry

set on the lower control arms for my long travel kit.

I'm building for my tundra because for some reason even though I'm like 15

hundred miles from the closest desert, I decided to build like a pre-runner.

But it's going to look good.

It's going to look really good in the Dollar General parking lot.

I can tell you that.

Yeah, man, the Crandon, first time I ever went to Crandon and watched the

pre-runners run up there is the first race I watched.

I was sitting on, I think it was the first corner and it's like a quarter

mile drag race to the first turn.

And man, first race, second car or second truck comes around in his tumble

roll and is like, dude, this is nuts.

These guys are crazy.

So, yeah, you're in that group, man.

You're crazy, dude.

Freaking building the suspension and shut that's nuts.

So and then in addition to the long travel, I've been trying to work

out all the graphics and livery for the side there with that six

paint, six color paint job I did, because it's just got to make it

look like a trophy truck that's just driving around town, you know.

Yeah, that's like, that's a lot to take on that paint job in like in a

booth setting in a professional setting and you did it in a driveway.

Like that's masking underneath a freaking piece of plastic in the

rain, dude, that's some rough stuff.

Yeah, six colors and like, I think I only had eight to ten

hours in it, maybe 12 maxed.

That's pretty good.

Yeah.

That's pretty good.

Yeah, I was hauling your limited time frame.

There's a limited time.

Yeah, somebody once told me I was in a room between rings.

Yeah. Yeah.

One time I think I remember you coming into the paint booth

and telling me nobody masks tighter than I do.

I was like, OK.

What a brag, right?

Yeah.

Tight, tight masking, something to be proud of.

Oh, man.

No clay bar afterwards, then.

It worked and apparently that got pushed into me somehow.

I don't know.

Hey.

As long as you're not using blue masking tape.

Oh, terrible.

Yeah, terrible, terrible.

Throw it in the garbage.

Yeah, it seems like you see a lot of that.

Yeah, speaking of that place, we worked on one or work together.

Why don't we talk about that a little bit?

I think while we were there, we did at least mix some color together

on like a really crappy.

Remember that mixing, mixing room?

We just take some paint from under the bench and make a color.

I think we did like an Ironman colored burgundy.

Yeah.

You know, the Ironman car.

Yeah, that was a 65, 66 Mustang coupe, I think.

I think it was a 65.

It was a five gallon bucket.

And we were just mixing, putting pearls and tinting it just to make it look

like not poop kind of a thing.

I think it looked pretty good when it was done.

But yeah, we were mixing it in five gallon buckets and powder pearls

just pounded it in there to make it look like something,

making sure we have enough just in case you got to repaint something.

Yeah, so good luck replicating that paint, right?

Yeah, whatever saves the owner a buck.

That place is definitely it was it was all.

It was all about doing the most with the least there.

Ah, yeah, replace all these floors,

but we just have a rusty donor car. No big deal.

Yeah, I think that was the place I was told, do it faster

and do it cheaper and make it look better or something.

I don't remember. It was like, you're supposed to be fast, cheap and good.

It was like the trifecta.

Oh, that's like, yeah, that's yeah.

That's why they had all the A plus technicians running through there.

I mean, they wanted to work there.

But as soon as they saw what was happening, it was just no, I don't know.

There's a lot of people that came in and out of that place for sure.

I wanted to work there.

But when I got pulled into the office one day to be told

that I was going to be head painter of the body shop

and they were going to give me a raise to $15 and 50 cents an hour.

I was like a little discouraged.

Rolling in it, rolling in it, rolling in it, 1550, baby.

Yeah, I think I remember when I got,

I think it was like a two or three dollar raise and it was raised a big stink

and it was still wasn't making 20 bucks an hour is like

and I'm working on some of the nicest cars I've ever even seen.

And I'm making frickin $18 an hour, you know, but that was,

I mean, that's Central Wisconsin and, you know, how 25 years ago or so.

Is that a long ago?

It was I think 10, 20 years ago, 15 years ago.

I think I had a kid.

So it had to be about 12 years ago because he was, he would have been

a baby then. So it was probably 12 years ago that I worked there with you.

Mm hmm.

Sure.

It was it was an experience and perspective in play.

Yeah, it was an experience.

There was times where we'd have to like paint the frames of stuff

and I'd have to put Vaseline on my face so I could get the paint off of it

because you'd be laying under it, pressure pot spray and like frame rails.

But I forgot you were helping with the big truck stuff, too.

You were kind of doing everything there, weren't you?

Yeah, everything from, you know, whatever overran the rest of shop,

just like the the sale lot cars.

And then I did a rambler there.

That was your customer.

That's right.

But I don't know the worst thing I ever had red, white and blue on, was it?

It was red and white.

We did it like one of the red.

It was a rambler American.

We did red and white, but the guy didn't have us with the blue on

like the old I can't remember what that special model of ramblers were.

But we did half the paint job.

We did red with white.

Yeah, it was sweet car.

I think the worst thing I ever had to do there was they had me

sandblasting with blackjack, a propane truck that had propane in it.

And so I'm sandblasting on top of a ladder and it's shooting sparks

because you're blasting with iron ore.

And I'm just like, wow, I hope this thing that's all crusty doesn't leak propane.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, good story.

Yeah, that place definitely worked on some cool stuff.

Yeah, I mean, I worked on I think it was the number 19 serial number Mustang Shelby.

So it would be the the 19th Mustang Shelby that they put together.

Still had like the chalk with like the number 19 on the inside

on the deck lid and stuff to replicate all that.

That was pretty cool.

So I mean, there's some really cool cars, but at the end of the day,

they were just all really they were just general restorations on

hot like expensive cars, you know, expensive in numbered cars.

Yeah, I think that might be a good trade.

I don't know what you're talking about.

They got they got their hands left a little bit.

They had I got a call from some people I know in the town that this business is in.

And they were telling me that their FBI was there

blocking all the doors and checking things out.

And I took a little drive over there.

And yes, they were there was a large presence there.

They had a trailer there they're doing interviews in.

They it was a pretty crazy thing happening.

It definitely looked like something out of the movies is really nuts.

That's crazy.

Did do does anybody know I read all the news articles on it.

Does anybody know how they actually got kind of what led the FBI there?

Like, was it an angry customer?

Yeah, I heard it was they.

No, no, this particular incident, I don't believe was I think it was they

they buy and sell a lot of vehicles or at the time they buy and sell a lot of vehicles.

So they were dealing with a lot of cars coming in.

They had a lot of inventory sitting there and they were they would buy them,

fix them, wait to have them fixed up to make a little more money on them.

So this particular incident, I believe was initially started when they

unknowingly bought a stolen car, which when you're buying that many cars

and in the old car world, I'm sure it's easy to do when you're, you know, it's

you're still not doing doing your due diligence, you know, to make sure that it's not stolen.

But when you're buying like 15 to I'm sure 100ish cars a year, you know,

you how you think they're just not doing it for all of it.

So that opened the book Pandora's box, I believe.

And then all the past lawsuits and stuff that have happened or potential lawsuits

that have happened to kind of all came to fruition.

And I think that's why they got initially like they showed up at the door.

Yeah, it's scary business.

They actually what they got in trouble for I got asked to do one night

after hours and I said, you know, I don't think I need to get involved with any of that.

But so there's another guy that worked there that that's still

doing that said thing and he sent them to me.

But I I'm like, I can't.

Yeah.

There was pictures taken of it.

It's all I really.

Wow.

A legend.

Yeah, there were pictures.

Yeah, they had there are alleged pictures.

And I from what I understood from what I heard is if if the guy didn't agree to the terms

that were in front of them that they were just going to follow in the rest of his life,

which I get that to, you know, that's crazy.

So it looked like after after all they're digging, they just pretty much nailed

everything down on one car.

It looked like a boss for 29.

That was the one that got him in trouble.

Well, they held.

No, they held a boss for 29.

But I don't know that that was the source of the lawsuit.

They they went through and looked at all the cars, tried to verify ownership

of everything.

So they were going taking all the paperwork apart, making sure that this

number matches that car, this number matches that car kind of thing.

So it wasn't necessarily that I don't think I don't know.

It's really hard to say because I didn't really read any of the stuff that came

out afterwards.

I was just this is all stuff I've here say it's all alleged.

Yeah, I don't know if it was actually the boss for 29 that they that was

like the car that was that broke the candles back kind of a thing.

I think there was just the purchase of the of whatever stolen vehicle

there was just put the red flag up and they already had enough things in

front of it to where they're like, we need to do an investigation just to

verify that it's not a total chop shop.

I mean, they did some sketchy things, but I don't think it was

everything that they were.

Everything they were that's people are saying they were doing they were

doing.

I mean, some of it was definitely it just comes down to like whether

you're disclosing some of the information to the customer when

you're working on the car.

You know, right?

You can do a resolution on a car and have replaced almost everything

on the car and it's still the same car.

But when you're I mean, it just depends on if the customer or the

person buying the car is disclosed on the information that and the

work that was done to the car just to make sure that it's actually

what they say it was to begin with or what it initially started as

I guess I should say.

Yeah, it looks like the you know, they pled guilty to a felony at

the end of it and it was like a $95,000 fine or something close to

$100,000.

But it apparently was over or what they admitted to was changing

wins on engine and transmission by grinding them off and stamping

the ones in that were correct for the car.

Now, I'm sure these things they do a lot of I am a good reader.

I think on these things that they they know a lot is going on,

but they got to like find something to nail you on.

Yeah.

And that's kind of what they they got one thing that was,

you know, big enough.

For sure.

It's like the least passive path of resistance is like punishing

the guy to get him to stop doing what he's doing kind of

the thing is from from what I got out of it.

Yeah, they were just trying to nail him on something so they

could tell people from the looks of it.

But I know since then, he allegedly can't sell cars in

Wisconsin anymore.

So it was that was this is something this is something

different from that lawsuit altogether.

So as of now, I think he's just consolidating parts that he's

had forever.

But I did hear allegedly that he's gotten pinched again for

tax stuff because he's with the auction stuff he's selling

these.

Anyway, there's a bunch of stuff.

The guys and that's definitely I think there should be a

Netflix special on, but you know, they'd all have to sign

off their rights and.

It's it's the guys just a trip.

That's wild.

There's definitely a lot of cool cars that we got to work

on there.

And but I think sometimes it takes somebody that it I

think sometimes it takes somebody that's like on that

crazy level to bring all that together.

Yeah, and that was one of the things that was like working

there.

It was hard to unsee is when you get to touch a GT 40 and

then you're working on a Mustang that was originally owned

by the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz.

Like there is some pretty cool stuff we worked on and it

was hard.

It's hard to unsee that when you go work somewhere

else.

It's like you're touching cool stuff every single day and

then you go and you're working on a Kia and you're

trying to match a tricode on a Kia.

It's like, why are we doing this, you know?

Yeah.

The body shop stuff is absolutely miserable.

It can be.

It can.

It pays the bills, but it's like, I don't know that

this is something that's going to make me happy.

Try coat Kia's.

Yeah.

The collision side.

It's like, yeah.

Yeah.

Try coat Kia's are not my not my forte.

Oh, forte.

That was a good point.

Yeah, baby.

But I only worked at one shop where I worked collision

full-time for like two years.

Otherwise I've always been in a place that had restoration

there.

I only worked at that shop just to pay for parts on

that 46 right there.

So I just put the basically got the whole drive train

together from working at this collision shop.

And as soon as I had all the stuff paid for, I'm

out.

I'm in any work on the junk anymore.

So far, are you on the suspension for your trophy

truck?

Like what stages are you in just doing geometry stuff?

So I've done all the math and all the planning

and I've got like the lower control arms I actually

have together.

No.

And like I rip past the main pieces on it.

I'll take welds.

And then I'm just kind of boxing them in,

getting them ready to put the shock tabs on.

And then I'm going to do some dressy overlay

panels for a little extra strength.

And then to make them look less driveway built.

Sure.

And then after that, I got to get into upper

control arms, which those are pretty easy.

The upper control arm doesn't have as long as

you've got your mount points and you're all in

the right spot.

Yeah.

It'll be all right and everything's lined up.

And then so those will go pretty quick.

And then I have to cut the coil over like the

shock towers off of the frame and extend them

because the coil overs I got are,

they're 2.5 inch bodies reservoir coil overs

and they're 12 inches of shock travel.

Oh, nice.

So they're, they're like 30 inches long.

I die.

Nice.

Are we going airborne?

Most truck shocks have like four and a half.

I hope to go airborne.

My friends Tacoma's got king shocks on it

that are for the Tacoma and they have 4.6 inches

of travel on the shock.

So I should have like 19 inches of travel

before strapping it.

So I'll probably hopefully strap it around

like 17 inches of travel total.

That's pretty cool.

So the hopes are I'm going to be three

wheeling around corners when I want

and hitting jumps if I want, but the rear

suspension will have to follow eventually.

Sure.

Dude, that's pretty cool.

I've always dreamed of having something that has like

that big of like just huge suspension on it

because those trophy trucks and cranking

are just nuts.

You've got to go through the pits and like the

huge cantilever arms in the back and dude

it's just like, oh my God.

So cool.

So many fab hours, you know, it's crazy.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah.

Right.

That's all the good stuff.

Yeah.

The pre-runners though, they have like

crazy amounts of fabrication.

I was looking at Morgan Clark's or a bunch

of Morgan Clark videos and he said

labor wise.

Yeah, sorry.

Labor and parts on most things in his shop

are over a half a million dollars for each

truck in there.

Unbelievable.

Is that, was it a Range Rover or Land Rover

or whatever that red thing that they're

building?

I saw that at PRI.

It's got a 10 cylinder Lambo motor

twin turbo something like that.

It's bananas.

Like I've never seen a pre-runner,

like high end pre-runner thing.

Like I don't even think that they are

there's no genre for what they're

building.

It's really nuts.

Yeah.

I don't know really, he's even he says

he doesn't know if he's supposed to

call them luxury pre-runners or what

they're supposed to be considered but

he's definitely kind of all by himself

there.

Definitely.

I don't see anything on the internet like it.

I mean, anywhere.

Yeah, I like how he goes to shows and like

displays.

Oh yeah, my driveway.

There's nothing like what's in my driveway.

Yeah, I like that he goes to shows

and displays things like in progress so

you can actually see like all of the

layers of work.

I've always liked that.

Like I want to display this Mustang and

bare metal just because it's people don't

I mean, finished cars are just like it's

just like you get over glossed.

Everything is so glossy, so done and

anybody could like to a certain extent

yeah anybody could really pile filler

and stuff too.

So it's just show off something in bare

metal.

I think that's really, really, really,

really cool.

That's stuff I like to see at shows.

Yeah, that might be just us as like

you know like craftsmen that want to see

that type of work.

But I think there are a lot of car guys

that you know either.

Yeah, I think if you aspire to do that

stuff like it's nice to also see

what it looks like it's not like a

hush-hush thing that some guy doesn't

want to share.

So you got a Mustang you're working

on? Another 69?

Yeah, so there's another Mustang.

It's a 69.

It's a Q code car.

We've done it actually followed me

from my last job that

they didn't want to keep working on it.

They had too much collision stuff happening.

So

we replaced all the floors in it.

Somebody had already started it and

scabbed some like but flux core welded

some floors in and they were like

screwdriver pop them loose kind of stuff.

So we got a whole brand new floor

but all that stuff in it new

frame rails front back everything's brand

new.

All the last thing we had to do is put a

rough skin on it and we cut the rough

skin off and there is like it's like

Swiss cheese like everywhere.

All the framework on the whole rough

so luckily

Dynacorn sells this stuff but

man

talk about fucking cars like

we think this thing's like a

rough skin away from coming off the frame

rack and now we're

long ways again.

I thought we were going to be able to get that thing in body work

into my wife's hands in the next couple

of months but it's more going to look like three

or four months probably.

That's crazy.

Is there a long wait for those Dynacorn parts?

No actually

we got they're all right here

that's basically you got to buy the whole

unicide.

So you get the outer rocker

the wheelhouse the whole

side and then you got to buy the front and back

bowl.

So it's where I don't know if we're going to

try to utilize as many as much of the parts as we

can.

I don't think we're going to put the whole thing on

just to save time because everything else a lot of

other stuff has gone through already.

Unfortunately they had to spend the much money on

the replacement parts because they don't sell them

hollow cart like the rough pieces which

I don't know why they don't but I'm sure it's

just parts management Tim.

Right.

Yeah I mean how much stuff do you want to inventory for

different situations?

Right that's just going to sit there and

suddenly you're going to pay somebody to work on it

or pay somebody to move it around it's going to cost

more at the end of the day I would suspect

but we do get our parts from

parts provider right in Marshfield here

TC truck parts they have

they basically buy

or get anything in it after market

and I can usually get it from him

just as reasonable as you could buy

online yourself but he kind of

he'll unbox it and vet it for me a little bit

so and it brings him to me sometimes like

he's not going to bring him to everybody

but we're just at the other end of town

and a good relationship with them is really awesome.

Oh yeah he just likes

coming down to the shop because there's really

not a lot of them in Marshfield.

There's not a lot of that stuff

in many places anymore.

Yeah you're not wrong

I mean to me I'm jaded just because

I come here every day

and you know

swearing at the same cars every day so

it's definitely get jaded as far as that

goes but kind of going back to what we're

talking about that shop we both worked at

you know it's like you can't unsee it so

once you see that kind of

working on cool cars

every day and like

like sometimes I'll juggle three cars because

I used to dabble in the collision stuff

so like you're used to

working on three four cars a day if you're

good juggling you know if you're doing it right

and you're juggling enough stuff

just to be productive so sometimes

I'm working on three cars a day

and it's still productive

it just you know and making sure you have

the right stuff lined up in front of you

because sometimes you work

on something you need a part

you need the customer to make a decision

you got to stop so

that's why we do juggle some of the

some of the budgets around here just so

we don't drive ourselves crazy and

you're left in limbo a lot too sometimes

right

oh man so you said something about

you're going to be putting

putting a building up potentially

making your own little shop

is that what I hear is that hush hush

can't talk about you got to edit that out

nothing's hush hush

nothing's hush hush on the youtube

no

we bought a lot next to our house

shortly after we moved here

the guy kind of like showed up and he was

like a week after we bought

the house he catches us outside and he's like

oh I was just in the neighborhood looking

at what one of my lots to build a house

on next you know

it'd be real shame if you guys

bought this house and then there was a brand new house

right next to you right after you moved in

and I was like yeah

what's that and he's like how would you feel

about buying it and I was like well I just moved

across the country and bought a house

so I don't I don't really think that it'd

be a fiscally responsible

to immediately drop another

right like ten twelve thousand dollars on a

lot and he's like

well well just I do

ten grand cash and I was like I'm not going to give

you ten grand cash like

let me settle into a house for a while

before I even think about that and then he's like

can you do two grand

and then and then and then you can make payments

and I was like

I don't know

and then you know it kind of went on

back and forth for a while and then a few

months later I agreed to finance it with him

because I was like well it's

worth about the couple hundred dollars a month

I paid for the land is worth that to not

have neighbors next door

don't so we

definitely so now that we have a little

more than an acre here we have been

planning since the lots almost paid off

to put a shop up

in our extra lot next to the house

and hopefully be like

a little apartment and it'd be nice for my kid

when he gets older so he could get away from the parents

I'm sure but

I want to put a shop up

and build my stuff to

YouTube I've got some other side jobs to do

because I'm going to

hopefully

through the YouTube channel have like a little

hot rod shop do some stuff fabrication

and paint and whatever as long as it's a cool project

worth showing like right now

I've got a buddy with a rest oh my shop

over on the coast

that has a fifty five Chevy

Bel Air

and it's got a roadster shop chassis but it needs

quarter panels done and he's like

my shop is not the space to be doing

quarter panels in he's like

and I just don't want to put the time into it aligning

all the panels because he's like

obviously on a car like that you got to put the doors

on get those lined up to the quarters

and then vendors and get everything lined up

and then you got to take the quarters off

put new ones in

he's like I just he's like I'm not a sheet metal guy

I'd really like it if you do that

so I'm going to get that project waiting

and then

you know the way it is there's just not a lot of

rest those shops rest them on shops around

so he said if I get a space

set up I can do fabrication he said he can just

literally flood me with work because

there's a lot of guys on the coast of Florida

to have a lot of money

and nobody to do the work so

hopefully

we'll be putting up a building next year

yeah hopefully put a building up next year

and then start doing that stuff until then

I'll just do it in my two-car garage

and in the driveway and

get done what we can

I started all this in a

two-and-a-half car garage

we moved into this building

and got married

yeah yeah yeah I did

I did cars in my garage

I painted in the garage

don't tell

neighbors and shit but

I painted out of there for

six months or so

four or five months probably

until I found this space it was actually

as my neighbor's

father

or father-in-law depending on which one you talk to

they had this space here

and one day I was skateboarding past

and they were like hey you're still looking for some place to rent

and I'm like heck yes

and they

brought us here a couple days

or a day later and I'm like sign me up

when do I start

and then at the same time

I was buying

our booth on Marketplace

it was in the Fox Valley area

so we bought the booth

moved into this building

and got married on the same month

and we had to take the booth down and assemble it too

which is a

that's not very fun

yeah it was almost killed my buddy

almost decapitated

it was pretty nuts

almost decapitated him

would something come down when you're trying to assemble it

yeah it's the roof panels

yeah we were taking the roof panels off

and as we were taking them off

and using a forklift it kind of like slid

and his head was in between like

say he was a forklift and he was popping his head up

trying to like pull this thing back

and it started sliding and his head was there

it was like dude

it stopped him like yeah

it could have legit cut his head off

but don't

I mean Osho wasn't there

as long as he had safety glasses on

that's what's important

you know

yep he had a jacket on

he had boots too so he should be good

okay yeah Osho should be fine with it then

they're like oh he had safety glasses on

so just he cut his head off but

his eyes are good

yeah yep

there we go

that sounds like a lot to do in one month

oh yeah

that was it was like a lot a lot

and then like

I can't believe all this stuff was stuffed

in our garage and then we got our garage

back so now it's weird to even have

a garage now as it was just like

our shop for a long time

and it's nice not having it at

home which I could see

having it like living at a place and having a shop

but it was just like not big enough

for to be sustainable at all

you know

plus you're like in town

you can't like you can't get that forever

you can't be as legit as you can

you know

moving to a building

the goal is to eventually at some point

buy a building or buy this building

or buy something

you know throw and rent money away but

we're just renting this place now but

definitely have enough I mean we could do a lot

more with less space

it's nice having some breathing room

that you can bring a car like one of our cars

in just to clean it up

whatever just get some extra room

pretty nice

I was putting vacuum

pumps on the CNC at work and

I had outdoor ones

and

these Chinese the Chinese company

convinced us that these that we were going to

be really happy with these Chinese vacuum pumps

they lasted three weeks but I had

to put them on outside and it was like

110 degrees with

UV or whatever

and my phone in my pocket

overheated and shut off in like

15-20 minutes of being outside

what

yeah

you can put a guy on the moon

but

but you can't work outside in Florida

I don't know

yeah that's that's nuts dude

that's

maybe I don't want to move to Florida

so

I consider

this is my winter I have two bad months of heat

and it beats shoveling

my roof off in the winter in Wisconsin

because in Wisconsin it was like

I mean when you got five six months of snow

yeah

so

I got two months of heat

build season

it's always

everything's build season except for July and August

so

honestly at this point

that's the thing

I'm just waiting

for a hurricane to blow the heat away

because I think that's what it's going to take

because it's just been sitting on top of us for like

like a month

sure

no

I don't know I would have been a lot longer

done on my long travel

if I wouldn't have been so hot outside

and I have to work outside because my garage

is completely taken up with tools

I believe that

because I have three toolboxes in the garage

a workbench a break

welders everything it's like that's the whole

two car garage because in Florida two car garage

is for like a Prius

and a golf cart

because a car

in the word I guess

so it's like super tiny space so that's why I work outside

but when it's 110

you don't want to do a lot of that

yeah that's nuts man

I can't imagine I literally

cannot imagine that sounds absolutely nuts

when it gets like 80 degrees

in here I'm like losing it you know

it was

102 in my shop

that's nuts

yeah we try to try to keep the door shut

usually if you keep the door shut and the dehumidifier

on it'll stay usually below

80 degrees if it's a hot day

is it pretty insulated or

yeah that's nuts

yeah it used to be a beer depot

so it was it's like the walls are like

I don't know foot

in a quarter thick something like that

they're like pretty heavy insulated

so it used to be a drive-in you there's like a wall

right here used to drive through

the building like drive in empty

drive through fill and then

and then leave so

this building's like

started in the 1950s or something like that

so it's been a lot of different things

that's pretty cool

Marshfield's an older area though

I think you got a lot of stuff from that age

yeah

the majority of it's I mean

the majority of the older stuff's been getting knocked down

lately there's a lot of old buildings

that have been getting knocked down

it probably looks a lot different than the last time

you were here for sure

I don't know when the last time you were in Marshfield but it's

it's really different

I mean it's

when's the last time you were in Wisconsin

I have not been back since I left

and we're coming up on five years in December

that's hilarious

yeah we left and we're like

we're like oh I'm sure we'll want to go back

and visit people and stuff like that

but it's like we got here and we're like

yeah I don't know if we miss anybody enough

fair that's fair

yeah I'm just fine

drinking beer in my boat

and jumping in the lake it's January

you know

yeah it's a different life

that's for sure

yeah for sure we just have to do a lot of water things

water activities to keep cool

during the summer

I believe that

yeah

the building I work in now is like not

it has like a foil insulation

and it's just like a red steel pole building

oh really

so it's like being in a toaster oven

that's rough man

I can't

no

no keeps me thin

yeah I would imagine

I would imagine

holy shit

it's be hard to get anything done

for me

I do a lot in the morning

yeah I have a particle that sits next to my welding bench

and just blows on me all day long

nice

so when I'm take welding I just have to

like have the fan blowing on me

and then my hands are like

reaching out of the wind so I don't lose my gas

on the weld

yeah that's gotta be rough yeah

you gotta have the mix of that yeah

I always sucks when I have to close the shop up

when it's a nice day close the shop up to do some

welding because it's too windy it sucks

yeah

yeah we have I put in like one of those big ass

fans on the ceiling in the shop it's like

16 foot fan

and it's really good

for blowing the heat out of the shop

in the morning it's really good like nine months

a year but like right now come

930 when the sun's like peaking

onto the steel building I have to turn it off

because it just blows hot air off the roof at you

all day long

just hot fan

yeah it's like sometimes I'm like

why do I feel nauseous I'm like oh it's because

the fan is blowing 120 degree

air at me

it's like full blown desert fan

yeah

and I'm wearing sleeves and TIG welding over

yeah hot metal

yeah I

I'm bad at wearing like the proper

like having to have sleeves

on and I'm usually getting burnt

on my neck and my arms and I got a cool

tan line on my arms

because I'm wearing t-shirts all the time

I don't do welding all day I don't weld like all

day like you do sometimes yeah see

you know it's all about

yeah I

my arms would be like

lizard scan if I didn't wear sleeves

yeah they'd be sweating even harder

and 110 degrees

geez I can't imagine

what I do do is I take

like little gel ice packs

I have small ones that I think they're for like girls

eyes when they're like trying to give it

a puffiness and I stuff them in the sleeves

as like my own little

air conditioning

just takes the edge off

at first I was

doing that you know those like

those those cheap freeze

pops that you'd get when you were young and they'd cut

the side of your mouth when you were eating them

so I'd take the grape ones

because nobody wants the grape ones and I'd stuff

them in my sleeves and then

when they turned to liquid I'd put them back

and then give them to the guys that work for me

hey I got some grape freeze pops for you

they're a little sweaty on the outside

but

oh my gosh

that's pretty wild man I mean

that's just to go to work

fucking cars man

just to go to work

have a little bit of trophy truck

building money

yeah man

I got to get some time on the schedule so I can work on my car

I've been injured my neck

enough to where I shouldn't be

welding a lot a lot with my welding helmet

so my car's been on the back burner

for a while

but yeah I can't wait to get back on it

hopefully by the end of this year I'll be

my neck is gonna be like enough to where I can like

put in some hours after hours and not like

injure my neck farther than it already was but

yeah that's the light at the end of the tunnel

as far as that goes

have you seen those Chinese welding goggles

where it's like an auto dimming

but it's only like this big

you had to do like

minimal welding I could see like maybe

but I wouldn't take well the aluminum with it

or anything

but it could be lighter on the neck

no I mean

I'm not really unless it's like a

long weld where it's like feet

where you know usually the stuff I'm doing is

fairly minimal

if I'm welding all day it's gonna be a different

situation but yeah

I'm just gonna throw my mask on quick just because it's a light

it's not very heavy

and usually like

like you were saying before like you'd weld in

awkward positions some of the stuff is just like

terribly awkward

so having that mask helps a ton

okay

but Harbor Freight has gotten a lot of people going

oh I mean

to a certain extent

in the automotive field in general

you should be able to you should be using the tools

that you can afford

to work on the things that just to get

move things forward so I mean Harbor Freight

is it's very

very awesome for people that are

newcomers to even working on anything

um

that being said they're not the best tools in the world

but it'll get you going it'll get you learning something

um I have a Harbor Freight

wheeling machine that's

it's not the perfect thing in the world but

I made the driveshaft tunnel in this

um

parts with some Harbor Freight tools man

the kicker uh kick shrinker

stuff like that I don't think I have an actual kick shrink yeah they do

they got attachment for a kick shrinker

um it doesn't have a big throughout or anything but yeah

I mean they have some cool stuff that you can

you can do a lot with a kick shrinker and uh

and a wheeling machine for sure

yeah it'll get you going

I was actually at like a dollar tree

or something like that and they had hand tools

there for like five

dollar box end wrench set

and I was like you know that might be enough to get somebody going

that you get a job and you know

have fifteen dollars worth of tools

to get the things started

it's a lot better than getting caught in a snap on trap

or something

I gotta have snap on stop here they they've never really

been I've never had him stop here but I got like

I have someone snapped off screwdrivers

and stuff that I need and

he's probably gonna yell at me and say I had a wrench

on and stuff but this is like

many many years of me

breaking some

snap on tools you know

yeah I was using a ratchet today

that like the soft grip on it

and the end of the handle

like the last inch is like

cracked off and so it's like

floppy so you gotta slide your hand up farther

but I would have to

find a snap on guy to get it done

I don't have any that come to

my place because it's just a welding shop

yeah it's not like it used to be I mean I remember

the one shop I worked at there was I think

at the time there were five different tool trucks

that would come every week

and they were expecting to

sell stuff to everybody all the time

it was pretty nuts now I think

I don't even know if there's a mac

or a macco I don't even know if there's a macco

truck around I think it's

just a snap on truck I think but

again I don't have them stop here either

because it's like I don't want them to have pitch me

pitch selling me stuff

every week and have to go on the

on the truck and consent to all that

stuff you know

hey you want to buy $7

stick of beef turkey we'll let you

make payments on it

yeah all right yeah

or like let me run your credit

and you get a free t-shirt it's like

you know how credit works man nobody should be

signing up for this

yeah I definitely uh

dug myself a hole with the tool trucks

when I was early into the industry

it's a little bit I mean

really pushed on you

really fast like

you need to have all these tools and you should have the best

and then it pressures you into buying the best

tools to snap on tools you know the stuff that's

uber expensive but it should

be replaceable in a week

but now you so you have this

initial investment of these tools that are supposed

to be replaceable every week and somebody's coming

to you every week and saying oh you have a broken one

here's a new one but now they're just like

hard to get a hold of and I have to like

call this guy to call that guy

it's it's almost like pulling teeth it's really

dumb

I will admit though that I can basically

not use any kind of ratchet other than

a snap on ratchet at this point because I just feel

like like if they're like only

have seven teeth in them

and like a snap on just makes it so much

better and they just feel

better and you never want to throw them

across the shop

I have a snap on

ratchet that I want to throw across the shop

if the screws never stay tight in it it's got

it doesn't have enough teeth in it

it's I bought it was like the first set

I bought when I was in

auto body tech so I still have a lot of those

tools actually have the same same toolbox I've

never even upgraded I just have other toolboxes

that I've added to

just stuff that aren't like not mobile toolboxes

but yeah still have the same

toolbox when I started

not very good people like funny me

long time

I have

a snap on roll cab but I also

still have a stack

on toolbox that was my dad's that he bought

at Kmart in the 70s so I mean like

you can get going with just about anything

oh hell yeah yeah I bought my wife

a harbour freight

white toolbox she wanted a white one

and the harbour freight ones aren't

terrible I mean they're not I don't think

the doors lock on them or anything like that

so if you're wheeling it around the drawers

can definitely open up but

I mean like it's just she was

she was doing rural wireless internet

and

we started the shop here and she

one day just wanted to see if she

could come and do bodywork and she started

sanding on this I think was a

I don't know what it was at the time if it was a

a red Mustang or something

like that whatever it was it was red

but she was doing some bodywork on it she's

sanding she's after that day she's like

yeah I can do this and kind of got a little

game plan together and

so she's started with

she had no experience before she started

here and in the shop so

she's every all of her tools are all

some of them are harbour freight because

you don't use them very often

so yeah like I said harbour freight it's a

great resource if you have one in town you can

replace your stuff right away too because

it's cheap and you can get a replace right away

but um yeah I don't know

the tool game is

I like tools but

I'm not like a you gotta

have one brand or anything like that

now whatever works

exactly you should be getting more

power hammers and stuff like that instead of

more expensive ratchets

I gotta get some I gotta

get an adapter made so I can use my planishing

hammer

my planishing hammer dies in my power hammer

so I just had a machine

the top of a blank die off so I can

slide a planishing hammer in

a set screw so I gotta have

somebody in town do that project for me but it'll

just sort of have to buy

or have more dies made for the power hammer

I just have more diversity I can get

use a smaller planishing hammer dies

if it's a smaller part

that you can work on or that needs to be worked on

so it just

it's like more tools in

in your belt I guess kind of a thing

like Batman

definitely

without the mask I don't wear the

mask here

people

never paid attention to me until I

put on the mask

I think that's paying that's not even Batman

is it

I don't know I have no idea

we do have a cool project

coming in before winter

a 58 Chevy truck on a

roaster shop chassis with the LS and stuff

it's a buddy of mine and

his dad they're putting the truck together it's really

really cool but they bought a premier cab

so everything's aftermarket all the

body panels are aftermarket so

they're just

they took a big bite

they're trying to eat an elephant one bite at a time

but they're

more

they're trying to do it in their garage in their spare time

and my buddy's only home every other weekend

so he doesn't have any time to work on it

it's a red red car

or a truck I'm sorry

got a lot of cool parts and should be really cool

that's sweet

so what are you guys gonna be doing on it just kind of

finishing up sheet metal

painting stuff like that

I think we're gonna take it in bites

they want everything kind of gapped out

they had

they were buying some parts and had some

they're buying a lot of parts

and there weren't like

fully installing all the parts and moving on to the next

you know some of it is making sure

the parts you're buying are appropriate for the build

and I think they were going a little too gung-ho

on buying parts

and not

applying them

right away because it was more of like

buying parts in my control and not working

like the truck

physically getting worked on wasn't necessarily

in their in their wheelhouse

so they weren't moving forward as far as they were just getting

apart so anyways

I'll be

I'll eventually be painting it I think

and they go

they go to some bigger shows

their taste is a little

farther up there than the normal guy

so they're planning

and taking it to some pretty decent size shows

the

son has another 58 Chevy Trucker

a couple of them that he wants to build

and he said he wants that the next one to be even more

nuts so I'm like well it's on a roaster shop

chassis and it's all brand new parts

and you know I can't imagine

being even more nuts but it's definitely

possible

seems like these roaster shop chassis

and our Morrison chassis are popping up more

and more for other builds

yeah I think it's just everybody wants to be able to drive

this stuff and not

let it feel like a clunky

like this thing

most things really never drove that great

clunky the engine

would really shake the car

the power steering was like

you're really feeling everything when you turn in the

wheel so everybody

wants to get into them and drive them

and the only way to really do that

well is sometimes just

get a whole different chassis I mean you can

rebuild stuff

you can rebuild a factory car and you still

have a ton of money

and making sure all the parts are new

you know that you have new ball joints

and all that good stuff

when you go through all of that

you're paying somebody to do all that

sometimes you just buy a chassis and it's done

I mean I think a lot of the legwork is out

now

if it's a chassis replacement that's one thing

but adapting a car like this

it's a whole different

different

different elephant to buy it to I think

yeah it seems like not that long ago everybody's just running

S10 frames if they wanted to do an upgrade

and then they put a small block in it with a small block kit

for one of those and like that was what

the I updated my

my chassis was

yes I remember

I remember me and you

bullshitting back and forth about

something when we worked work together about

S10 chassis

and you telling me how ugly they were

and you weren't wrong man they are ugly

they're terrible

yeah they're terrible but I guess

they're a major car driver

yeah

I mean if that's like

the only way but

man

usually you got to spend some time adapting

the suspension then to look like it fits

right in the vehicle so like

what really does it cost in the end you know I don't know

right I think it's

if the guy's doing it himself that's one thing but if you're paying a shop to do it

that's never the answer

right

yeah I think that those

those chassis seem expensive

if you actually put down all the labor

and what you'd have to pay for all the suspension

everything it's nice to just get like a package

that works together

and then you know everything's going to be good engine can bolt in

training one can bolt in

yeah

yeah and it's just as specific as you want to get with it too

I mean some like

I'm pretty sure majority of the

chassis companies you can buy one that's powder coated

brake lines done fuel tank

I mean everything so I mean

you can you can buy it's

almost all a car a lot like you know you can get it done

done like you know you've got to

do anything to it

but

yeah so I mean

supposedly I mean I would suspect

there's some retrofitting I mean

direct chassis replacements would be different than

like you know

putting something on a Mustang it's going to be a little more involved

because it's a unibody car

right

so

is that chassis made to work for a Mustang

and then you're just adapting it or is it a

completely different car chassis

yeah

this art morson chassis is made

for the Mustang it's all specked out for the

wheel openings and stuff like that

it's

it is just a chassis so there is no

like

body mounts go here and this is where this

goes and this is where this goes so it came

to me

the body was floating on the chassis it had

started the

shop that had started it

the owner had got cancer

that his business was sort of dissolved

for he owned the building

but the business was really dissolved for three years

or so and then he was kind of getting

back on his feet couldn't find employees

and ended up giving me a call through a mutual

friend of ours and so the car came to us

like I said it was floating on the chassis wasn't even attached

so

it was very head scratching at first as far as

like where do you even start

and it's kind of

get the front wheels in the front wheel opening

and start figuring out

where it's going to attach how you're

going to pull the bolts out where the bolts are going to come out from

where to put the thread inserts

in the frame and how you're going to mount everything

I mean it was a lot the first

year was just figuring out

all the parts they had

and had just so they just stopped on it

so it was just figuring out the parts they had

adapting it to this

custom chassis I'm very familiar with Mustangs

but adapting it

to a custom chassis is not

something that I've ever done before

when I got called me about it he's like

tell me

it's on a chassis and this and that

sent me a couple of pictures and I'm like

I think I can do it

kind of

a little bit naive

maybe I definitely knew I could do it

but I didn't think that the car was going to be going to the level it's at

we're making things out of sheet metal

that I didn't think

five years ago I would have been capable of

building but

every day is a school day you just got to try and heart

outpace yourself from the day

before

yeah I don't know

right necessities

the mother of all invention

yeah

yeah really it is I mean

for me it's hard to learn

even like the power hammer stuff when I got it

it's I'm not just taking

a piece of sheet metal and just like running

it through to bend some stuff

up it's almost like it's got to be

application based

and

this is what I'm doing and I got to learn it

for this

not saying that that's the right

way I think there's you can

and sometimes you're learning on a

car for a customer and

you're not necessarily

billing for all the time because you have

there's learning time involved

so you have

eight hours in a day and sometimes you're charging for

five or six just because I was

learning

two or three of those hours

I might have messed up and started over

adjusting

and changing

change of die or something you know I don't know

but

it seems like we can do this all day but why don't we save

a little bit for the next episode

for sure

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