Tim Spell - Thrills and Tales of Vintage Cars and Auto Auctions
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Welcome to another In-Wheel Time Podcast, a 30 minute mini version of the In-Wheel Time Car Show that airs live every Saturday morning, 8 to 11am, central.
Howdy.
It's the In-Wheel Time Car Talk Show today, coming to you from the 5th annual Woody's Waterfront Car Show in San Leon, texas, and now the guest who's entered in today's judged car show.
We're looking forward to learning about another hot rod.
I promise you that I got to drive the 2023 Infiniti QX50 and I'll give you my thoughts on it.
Conrad has the Cruise-In calendar.
You have the Cruise-In calendar up.
No, sir, are you ready?
I don't know.
Two thumbs through the pages Later, we're going to bring you the stories making automotive news headlines.
It's just ahead on the In-Wheel Time Car Talk Show, howdy, along with Mike out of this world, mars, who's somewhere out the ground oh wait a minute.
I see him coming out of the.
Port-A-Potty down there.
No, he's a fishing trawler.
He got on.
Is that what it was?
He was fishing in the Port-A-Potty.
He was again.
He was, he was he was connected to the trawler, king Conrad along, is here with us.
We also have we Need More Jeff Zekin.
We also have with us today making a rare special, and he's really ornery today.
He is ornery, he's just got this attitude.
He's telling me how to program the show.
He's telling us how to do it.
We have with us today.
ladies and gentlemen, Obi Johnson, All right, everybody on here Mr.
Johnson, hey, hey, it's good to see you.
Obi, could you change the microphone light in the console please?
You can't?
Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead and read your nut books, because that's you know.
I know that that's your thing when, at your Puck-On Farm, p-can, p-can farm.
So are we going to introduce him properly?
David, hmm, ainsley, he's here, and all of his splendid glory.
With the sun from behind.
Yeah, I know.
As you get his shadow of David.
That and his hair wafting in the breeze.
That's my hair.
He has some.
That's my hair.
You lost all of yours in.
The breeze Must get the reflection, so you know I saw Mars earlier walking this way.
but I guess he's not going to.
He's going to walk the plane or something.
Walk the plane.
He's going to walk.
This way it sounds like an Aerosmith song oh this way, or a Run DMC.
Yeah, is that who it is, run DMC?
Well, they did the cover for it, which I thought was as good as Aerosmith's.
That song actually brought Aerosmith back because they were on the flounder.
Oh, they did that song together, didn't they?
Yeah yeah, yeah, that was really good.
You know, I New audiences.
We were talking last hour about cars that sold at auction on the Hemings Motor News website, so I want to continue that, can we?
continue that.
Because we're at a wonderful car show here.
I was going to say a cruise in, but it's not a cruise in, it was an actual event Woody's Waterfront Car Show here at the Topwater Grill in San Leon, texas.
We're right out on the point of Galveston Bay and there's a big ship going down the ship channel over there.
Yeah, there's been a couple of passings today here it's a beautiful day.
It's a little windy, as you can tell by our microphones.
It's a lot windy, it's gorgeous though.
But that's what's keeping it pleasant.
You know, past me, Benny, you were pouring sweat.
Oh yeah.
Not a breeze to be had, but it's an actual beautiful morning.
I got some good shots of the sunrise again.
So if you're out in the area, come on by and take a look at some of these gorgeous cars.
So now we're going to talk about some of the cars that sold at auction and we like to play Stump the Band kind of I might be joining another band.
I know you can join me there.
Oh, yeah, maybe.
Maybe Good for you.
So here is one for you, Conrad A 2004 Mercury Marauder.
Oh OK.
Now this is a crown Vic that when Mercury was in business, they took and they souped it up.
Kind of hot rodded it.
More suspension and black out trim that can intercept yeah how much?
17,000.
17,000, david guesses I'm going to go 9,000.
9,000.
I'll go 21,000.
OK, well, let's meet in the middle.
How about a 12, 6?
Ok, see, now, if that's a real Marauder and it's clean, I would consider buying something like that.
Yeah, there's a collectability to that car.
There is Not as a daily driver.
It would be for cruisers, no, as a daily driver, really.
Absolutely, and I will tell you this A acquaintance of mine who just got married recently, a young guy.
He bought at auction a police Tahoe.
It's painted black.
I mean, all they did was take the Police labels on it?
Yeah, and they took the lights off of it.
But you see that thing coming down the street.
You can slam on the brain exactly, and it's one of those cars that you can't kill.
It'll run forever and ever and ever and ever.
Amen.
Yep, how about?
This would be a perfect car for this show a 1936 Chevrolet pickup truck 36 1936 a pickup truck.
I'm gonna hold my hand over the over the price.
I can't.
You can take a look at trying to get a visual, it's a custom.
I'd say about 40 and no.
I'm thinking 62 well, both of you are wrong.
It's sold for 36 593.
Wow.
It looks good in a photo does, but you know, you never know.
You know the problem with these many times Is they've been gone through so many hands and hacked up so many times.
And you can you can slap a paint job on anything and make it look good.
Yeah, but you don't necessarily know what the modifications are that are done to it, and that's the scary part and or or you it looks like yeah.
It looks like it's got a you know an R4 transmission in it, because that's what it looks like on the outside, but it's all been jimmied up and jacked with on the inside to give it some sort of performance thing.
Everybody's about to fall out and put mud on it.
Everybody.
Yeah, how about a 1986?
Suzuki Samurai?
Now, we could have shown this.
We could have shown this in Woody show, because it qualifies.
It's not, it's not what.
What are you?
What are you holding up?
86 Suzuki Samurai.
You said, you said hey.
If you broke the windshield you're talking about the price.
No, I'm talking about entering it, because you could enter this show if you had an 88 or older car.
Yes, 88 or old.
Don could have entered the show.
He's 88, so give me the specs on it again 1986, right Suzuki Samurai 2500 death machine.
Three grand Mars, 45,000 Mars isn't here.
College.
Mars guesses 45.
What's David's guess?
What's David's?
guess.
Mars get 45, and I'm 1500 1500.
Yeah, no, it actually sold some nut job, bought this thing for $13,125.
It was.
Well, it's got patina.
You remember a Radio TV guy from back in the day, friend of mine, roger Gray.
Roger Gray actually bought one of those.
How about here's one this is for you, conrad a 1962 Mercury Monterey.
Oh, cool car.
It's a, it's a great big four doors today.
Yeah big fins.
Yeah, no, no, no fans.
No, no, fans.
That was after.
62 was after the fin.
Yeah, it's rounded off kind of looked a little bit have that weird angle on the back window.
I can't tell you.
Picture Seventy, but I mean, it looks clean, but you never know 1270 70, 9000.
Now this one here I I picked this one out specifically for Conrad because you know he's a big Oldsmobile fan anything Oldsmobile, he's in right.
Yes, a 1963 Oldsmobile jet fire.
Okay, jet fire was to Oldsmobile.
What Grand Prix was to Pontiac?
or the Skylark was to Buick Sure, looks like it to me.
Well, I'm sorry.
No, you said jet fire, that's what it says.
Okay, jet fire was the little f-80 farm.
Sorry, I thought you said star fire.
Jet fire is the, the precursor to the Cutlass, and it was with a jet fire.
It actually had a 215 cubic inch all-aluminum v8 with a turbocharger on it.
What, oh yeah, from Oldsmobile, and I'll say 25.
I'll go 19 Conrad.
You should have bought this car $4,600 for, not sure that they're real, not sure not sure that the color would really.
It's painted like apricot Cream interior.
I would, I would not, yeah, I would not change a thing on that car.
The 63 jet fire for forty six hundred about dog beautiful, you know.
even Even Brad Thompson with God's garage, I think would buy that yep and oh yeah, turn it around and make it something special and give it away to eat.
Tub it out, oh god.
Well, I've got one for you that I have never seen before.
This would be on chasing classic cars, but I haven't even seen it there.
Are you ready, conrad Sure, have you ever heard of a 1963, a DAX?
Nope.
No a DD ax type 47.
I didn't even know there was a type one.
No, but I've got a DD.
Taking prevision for it.
Here's what it looks like.
It looks kind of like a cartoon thing.
It's a three-wheeler with a body with a nose that sticks up in the air, with one headline.
Oh my gosh is that not ugly?
It looks like something that the post office would have bought a million of $3600, really 3600, 3500.
Did you saw the price?
No, no, I didn't know you didn't know what Jeffrey was bidding on it.
Yeah it would have had to have like a.
I was sniping it, you know probably had a motorcycle.
I either that or a Briggs and Strat 5 hours power.
I did a segment on the tuk-tuk.
That's the tuk-tuk.
I'm about a 68 Vespa.
We don't usually venture into motorcycles.
That's two things you picked that are in history 1968 Vespa 150 $1700.
Oh no, I'll say about four grand actually $4,600.
Oh, there you go.
Yeah, there's a collectability for the Vespa.
We used to make.
I don't understand, we used to make you Big fun.
You know, I see a creeper.
I see a creeper walking the coastline over here and he's got.
He's got a white beard and muskash sunglasses and he's and he's going bald and I know that's going bald.
I know him, you know him too.
So yeah, the creeper.
Who was he's looking for his white van?
Well, no, he's not, but look who I found.
That ain't Woody.
Hey, sit your butt down over here.
We want to talk to you.
Okay, sit down.
Ladies and gentlemen, one of the greatest auto riders that has ever lived, and you know him from the Houston Chronicle.
For how many years at the Chronicle?
38 years at the Houston Chronicle.
You gotta sit down this is radio, not newspaper.
38 years at the Houston Chronicle, we can spread some newspaper on the floor around you and yeah, and I'll bet you that you didn't start as the automotive rider there, did you?
No, I didn't.
What did you start?
As I was a hot metal printer.
You were at the printing press.
You were here last year.
I was, yeah, you were here.
Yeah, we had to reach out, you know, tim.
Spell.
Yeah yeah, well, he was creeping.
Pull that microphone up to your mouth, okay yeah, yeah, this is radio A little bit closer, a little bit closer.
There you go, tim Spell.
How in the heck are you?
I'm doing wonderful.
It's so it's still good to see you.
It's great being here.
It's great to be seen, isn't it?
Yeah, it's better than being observed too, yeah, and observed.
Well, yeah, I'll be.
I did not know that you worked in the printing side.
I did, I'll be, I was an journeyman hot metal printer.
How old were you?
Ten?
Well, I started, actually I started the newspaper business when I was 15.
I was a deliverin, I was a inserter, an inserter.
Yeah, yeah, and they were big at the time.
Yeah, they were, and so I worked my way up to the circulation office and then became a printer.
Yeah.
And then worked my way through college and then started the automotive.
So this was your first job at the Chronicle.
Yeah, so you worked from your first job all the way through retirement.
Yeah, Unbelievable, I've never known anybody to do that?
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
I was not a tumbleweed, I stayed at one place, yeah that's unbelievable.
Well, you boy, you see them come and go and actually you actually went through what?
Two or three buildings, and they tore down the last one.
They did, yeah, they tore it down.
I don't know what's there now.
It's an office building or parking lot downtown.
Well, it was originally.
We had Jesse Jones endowment and then Hearst bought the paper, right, so you know.
So I had some changes of leadership.
Boy talking about changes.
Yeah, the newspaper business lots of changes.
Does it even exist anymore?
They're still doing newspapers.
I don't know, yeah, I don't know Need something for the bottom of the parricage.
The Port Arthur news still comes out?
Oh does it?
Yeah, my mother gets it.
It's six pages.
And they're looking for somebody to write some columns.
Yeah, but only one person for the whole paper.
They've got a wheel chair segment, but they need a motor right here for it.
I actually work for the Port Arthur news, so you want I work for the Port Arthur news.
That was when I was my first job as an inserter.
That's my hometown, port Arthur.
Is it really yeah?
Yeah, you know that.
Graduated from Thomas Jefferson yeah, football rivalries yeah.
Yeah aren't you sweet?
Thank you so much.
We now have, ladies and gentlemen, some fine top water grill bloody marries, and it's about time to boy because everything that we've all been through this morning on this broadcast.
I get to thank you, tim.
Look at you.
Sure, spill it all over these electronics.
How about that?
Well, that would be over at David's into the table.
Get one, david.
So Tim real how many years to do the auto part of it I did about about 25.
That's a lot of free cars.
A lot of cars.
The other thing Tim did he helped start the Texas auto riders.
He was one of.
You were like oh, you're the original first five.
Yeah, yeah, it's your fault.
The boy is all gone the hell in a hand basket.
Now go back to Creepin and the Texas Truck rodeo.
I found it that yeah, yeah, didn't know they lost it.
See, you got up this morning thinking I'm gonna go and I'm gonna see those guys and you know we pulled that chain.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what are you doing today in retirement?
Nothing.
Pretty much nothing I'm.
I have an old car that I've been working on what about it.
It's a 1449 Ford Club coupe.
No cool, yeah, flathead in it.
So Well, I guess what?
Since you live down here now, I guess Breeze like today wouldn't be bad, but the heat we've had, my gosh.
It has been tough and you know.
And again, if you have a flathead Ford, you don't want to be running it in 100 degree heat.
No, they don't.
It runs for short periods.
They do overheat.
Yeah there, is that yeah so I just so did you bring it out, or he's still working on it's?
well, it's at the end of the street where I live.
And how far was that?
did you walk here?
Actually, I took my golf cart thought the golf cart, yeah, and the police let you do that they did.
But I joined a Early Ford VA Club of Houston, Okay, and so it's really been quite informative.
Do you ever go to any of the meetings?
I do yeah, I have to drive all the way into Houston, but it's been.
You know it's great.
Just a tons of information.
What?
what have you learned about working on this car If you never had one before?
Have you know, not a flathead now, and I mean, have you done any engine work on it?
Only superficial stuff.
You know, I've changed out the the carburetor and the fuel pump and the thermostats and I I just put, I Just put electric windshield Wipers yeah, and the old vacuum one that quit working when you stepped on the gas exactly and I did a conversion 12 volt and Just cleaned up.
I have a gutted it, put a new interior in it and so that was that did you do the upholstery yourself at the house.
What's that?
You're doing the work at the house.
I am oh good for you.
Did you put your?
own upholstery in it.
I did, do you do tuck and roll, I can get you some business.
Actually I had the seats done and I did all of the door panels.
Nice.
Yeah so you know I really I can't.
You know I did.
I did the pleats on the door panels.
With the way I did it I obviously I can't, so wear anything.
So I got plastic lattice work and and covered the lattice pieces with upholstery and then bolting the gluodal moment on there it looks great.
There you go, yeah, and and with that.
When that doesn't work anymore, yeah, you can take it and has it skirting around.
Trailer a trailer.
Yeah, there you go, I can do that.
And you know it's a business for you right there.
Yeah, I'm ready.
What you're looking for is a business.
Yeah, yeah, I just want to work, yeah.
Yeah, I've been retired for quite a while else, so it's.
I know, you know it's funny I thought I might see you down here and the last time I saw you actually working and I saw you many, many, many times at the Houston auto show, the new car show and and whenever he walked in I don't know what it is about this guy, I but he has a seat open next to him and there I sit.
So he's trying to be all serious and everything and I'm shooting jokes and being funny.
He's taking notes.
Which is a rarity and he's being all print reporter-ish.
He records everything with his hand held recorder.
I do and I always tried to avoid Don if I could, but I couldn't stick around.
I was like you know.
I know I'm like a bad piece of gum that gets stuck on your shoe.
You are entertaining, though that's a you know Well.
I don't know, but I don't do it intentionally, it just happens.
Well, I miss interviews.
I miss you know.
I'm glad I got to meet a lot of the legends back in the day and a lot of them are gone now and I became pretty good friends with a lot of them.
Did you get to meet Carol Shelby A lot?
I knew her very well.
That's one I wish.
I had, I had a cell phone number, in fact, where I could call him.
And yeah, the first time that I met him was, I think, 1991, at Indy Christ was sending up an interview and I was thinking, man, this is great, I get to meet this legend.
And so I walk into the sweet, the Christ of the sweet, and all I hear is you are people going out at the show, you know, blankety, blank, blank, blank, and they go back and forth.
So it was quite the, you know, he just didn't cooperate very well.
He was kind of contangorous, yes, but went on, and he drove me around Indy, and at the time I had one of those cell phones that looked like walkie talkie, you know, oh yeah, and I handed it to him and so we did a radio, oh yeah.
Oh, you did.
Yeah, just take me around it around Indy?
How cool is that?
Yeah, but I got to ride with him a lot and interview him a lot and I've got a lot of stories.
How about AJ Foyt?
That's the strangest thing.
I've seen him many times but I never really got to interviewing Lee Iacocca.
I got to spend a lot of time with him.
How about DeLorean?
No, craig Reed Love.
Oh, wow, he just passed.
Yeah, he did Just passed.
It was really interesting.
One of the most fascinating things you know he was telling me is that the most comfortable he was when he was just about to do a speed run.
He can get away from all the media, all the hype, everything, all the sponsors and just concentrate.
You focus in on that one thing and let the rest of the garbage go.
Yeah, he said the weirdest thing when you get close to the speed of sound, you have the illusion that you're driving straight into the ground.
And he said you have to combat that the whole time because it feels like you're going right into the ground.
Really, yeah, never heard that.
That is what you saw.
Oh, you've never gone that fast.
I tried that.
I never but so I got to do some speed runs during my years here.
So I enjoyed that kind of stuff at Black Rock and then I went out and hung out with people at SoCal at Bonneville, and of course I did Texas Mile quite a few times.
Yeah, we've had them on the show a couple of times.
They're a lot of fun.
Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Well, I did not know this about you in the Texas Truck Rodeo.
Yeah, I founded it.
He's the mastermind.
So what prompted you to have that genius idea in the state of Texas?
Well, all the other clubs, they were doing these car events, these car competitions among manufacturers, and I said how can we distinguish ourselves?
Well, since Texas was this enormous truck market.
Yeah, it still is yeah.
I said let's do a truck competition.
So back then was it just trucks yeah, it was just truck SUVs.
That was the beginning of the SUVs.
Beginning of the SUVs.
You remember what year that was?
The 94.
Well, it was 93 for the 94.
Right modern year.
And it was cool I mean, in this competition, what we did.
We even had mud pits and we got to do mud races in manufacturers' car.
How fun it was.
A nightmare for the people who had to clean the cars.
Clean the cars or the one who had to tow it out of the mud.
Yeah, there was oil in the mud and all these rocks and stuff.
They all chipped up, but it was a lot of fun.
How bad Tadum, yeah, old ma'am.
We also had Bob Bondarock this is a separate thing.
Come out, you know.
It was Carol Shelby's friend.
I have a story about him too, and we had competitions between the Detroit on the riders and the Texas on the riders.
Oh my, gosh.
So it was fun and I've got a good Shelby Bondarock story.
But I had to clean it up a little bit.
Well kind of yeah, kind of.
Well, shelby was telling me Bondarock has a reputation for liking women.
In fact I asked him in an interview.
I said do you like racing or women?
Better?
He said women, hands down.
So that was his reputation.
So back he and Shelby were racing in Mexico and Shelby fixed him up with this local girl.
And you know what Bondarock had on his mind?
Yeah, so according to Shelby, bondarock was also very cheap too, and so he went to pick up this girl and when she opened the door, her entire family was there, brother, sister and, of course, no-transcript.
He ended up having to buy him dinner, oh Lord, yeah.
So he was disappointed.
Yeah, it was he.
I bet yeah, yeah, I can imagine how fun.
What a great story.
Yeah.
I was just thinking another Shelby story.
He was telling me that back in I think it was 68, that Chevrolet was going to market this King of the Road brand and I think it was one of their performance cars, probably Corvette.
And so he heard that he liked the King of the Road so he sent in his lawyers kind of overnight and stole that name from him and got his copyright attorney and everything.
He stole the King of the Road name.
For the KR, Corvette or Shelby.
Yeah, GT 500.
Kr.
KR.
And so he was real proud of that, no doubt.
I'm sure that it paid him well.
Yeah, it did.
He did OK.
But how true is the Shelby versus Ferrari story.
The movie.
I think a lot of it was true, and I mean I knew a few of those characters.
I didn't know Ken Miles and those guys.
So I actually learned a lot myself.
But Bondurant was represented in the movie as well.
Yeah, Bondurant was as one of the competitive drivers.
Yes, he was represented in the movie and it was really fun getting to know those guys, so I got to spend 30 minutes with ICOCA.
I want you to save that story Because I want you to tell that story on the other side of the break.
All right, we do a break or your review.
We're going to do a break.
Ok, I've got to get out of this and then we'll do the review later.
We've got lots of time.
We've got another hour and a half.
Yes sir, We've got a whole day.
Now that we finally got ourselves on the air, we got another guest sitting over there OK, so we got stuff OK.
Backing up, we're good.
Well, listen, I'd rather have it that way than nothing.
That's right, you've got a real guest, though.
Listen over here, you know.
No, you are the guest.
You're the man in the hot seat at the moment.
anyway, yeah if you just pull that microphone up a little bit better, you'd be so much cooler.
So you get for creeping around.
Yeah, that's right.
When I saw you I thought, ah, there's our next guest.
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Hey, david, you just calm down over there.
It's this much, hey.
Yeah, well, put the brakes on Because I have to look at this sheet.
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About this episode
Tim Spell shares his extensive experience in the automotive world, reflecting on his 38 years at the Houston Chronicle and the founding of the Texas Auto Writers Association. The lively discussion at Woody's Waterfront Car Show covers vintage cars, auction prices, and memorable stories from the automotive industry, including encounters with legends like Carroll Shelby. The hosts engage in playful banter while exploring the unique aspects of classic vehicles and the nostalgia they evoke, making for an entertaining and informative episode.
Original notes
Ready for a thrilling ride through the world of vintage cars and their fascinating stories? Alongside our Host, Don Armstrong, we have our regulars, Mike Marrs, King Konrad DeLong, Jeff Dziekan, and our audio engineer, David Ainsley, we dive into the enigmatic world of auto auctions, and the suitability of a police Tahoe as a daily driver. We also examine a custom 1936 Chevrolet pickup truck and make our price predictions.
In the second half of our journey, we invite you to ride shotgun with long time friend of the show, Tim Spell, an original member of the Texas Auto Auto Writers Association. Be prepared to step back in time as Tim reminisces about his '1449 Ford Club Coupe', his stint with the Early Ford VA Club of Houston, and his interactions with the iconic car descarol shigner Carroll Shelby and Lee Iacocca. Don't miss out on this enthralling trip down memory lane, filled with extraordinary experiences and a dash of nostalgia.
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In Wheel Time Podcast: Your Go-To Automotive Talk Show
In Wheel Time Podcast | Automotive talk with Don Armstrong, Michael Marrs, and Jeff Dziekan
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