TMCP #631: Ask Rick – The Year In Reivew and the Year to Come: Restoration Parts Prices, Online Auctions, and Great Cars for Investment!
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Porsche 944
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radio
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speedometer
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brakes
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water pump
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timing belt
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Karmann Ghia
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oil leak
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air cooled
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numbers matching
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firewall
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dash
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five speed
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drift brake
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NASCAR
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Ford Mustang Mach-E
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GM
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Ford Maverick
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Bring a Trailer
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eBay
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Fox bodies
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Chevrolet Firebird
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Pontiac Gt Convertible
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small block
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F bodies
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Chevrolet Corvette
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Buick Grand Nationals
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Shelby Cobra
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The muscle car place, online podcast, episode number 631.
This week, Rick Schmidt is here for a look at the year that was 2025 and the year of 2026 that's
coming soon.
Plus, we'll take a look at the cars you hope that Santa will bring down the chimney for
you.
And Rick will help you ask for the one that'll put a little coin in your pocket, maybe in
about five years.
Now, when it comes to 2025, we covered a lot of ground and sometimes a lot of the
same ground.
And often the question of tariffs and EVs came up.
So for 2025, the question about tariffs was, what are they going to do with the prices
of everything?
Well, now we're at the end of the year.
And here's Rick's take, but the reason for it might be 20 years in the making.
If I were really to go back 20 years and do all the math, we've had a correction
and now we're kind of back where we were, we're caught up with the rest of the
world and now we just march forward from here.
And then we will take a look about his future predictions on EVs.
For our crowd, we're going to take a look at the deep dive you really want.
Box body, Mustangs versus third gen Camaros and Firebirds.
The best looking car I've ever owned and maybe the worst quality car.
The only one Radley Package, what it was not was fast.
This is the Muscle Car Place Online Podcast, brought to you by National
Parts Depot.
This is the weekly show dedicated to people worldwide who love American
muscle cars.
If you're buying, selling, restoring, even racing them, this is the place for you.
Now here's your host, Rob Kibbey.
Yes, indeed I am Rob Kibbey and welcome to the Muscle Car Place
Podcast.
Well, here we are, December now.
The lights are up here in the Midwest.
The snow is on the ground and force.
The cars are put away snug until April.
And Rick is here to kick things off for Christmas.
I love doing these shows at the end of the year with Rick because we tackle
his stuff from the year, kind of in the rear view mirror.
It does help to put a perspective on everything.
This will be a really good look for all of us.
And I got an education here at what the tariffs did to our restoration world in
relation to the economy as a whole.
That's what I said.
When you look at the economy as a whole, which Rick is a fairly large business
owner has to do, it does start to put things in perspective.
And he went back and reviewed his experience over the last 20 years and pointed
out that some of the corrections we're having now may have been overdue the whole time.
It's hard to understand just in a single statement, you'll hear what he means in
the interview.
So that's coming up.
Overall, prices are up a little bit.
There's certainly not up to 20% of tariffs or whatever they might be.
The reason that they're up a little bit might just be because they should have
been a while ago.
You'll hear.
Now, on a different topic, and this only applies if you get this the day this
show releases, December 5th, 2025.
Today is our last day of the 2025 Toys for Tots campaign that we're doing on
the Kibbe and Friends show.
We're doing that on Patreon.
If you're not a Patreon member over there, if you don't even know what
that show is, just go to our website, themusclecarplace.com.
There's another show over there called the Kibbe and Friends show.
We are trying to raise $3,000 for Toys for Tots by the end of today, December
5th.
If you're not a member of Patreon, go to patreon.com.kfshow, patreon.com.kfshow,
and just sign up.
Just sign up for this month.
If you are a member over there, would you please increase your donation, even
if just for this month?
We're trying to get a total of $3,000 above and beyond what we
normally do here and send it to the kids.
We're almost there.
As of this recording here, we're just a few hundred dollars short.
You can also go to themusclecarplace.com and buy yourself a shirt.
All the profits from the shirts through today, December 5th, go to the Toys
for Tots campaign.
So please, if you would, I know it's the end of the year and you got your own
priorities, but if you would, could you do this?
Whatever we have in the bank at the end of the day is what I'm going to send.
Again, this only applies if you're getting this today, December 5th,
2025.
If you get this in the future and I know so many of you do, would you
just go do one privately?
That would be a great thing to do.
Don't tell me that you did it either.
Just go do it on your own.
You'll never get more joy than giving some away.
It's the greatest.
Okay.
So I don't have a ton of new info here for you.
The big thing going on here in Kibbeland in December is the nutcracker.
Do you know what the nutcracker is?
Ouch!
Nice try, Byrne.
It's not that.
The nutcracker, the ballet, I'm talking about the ballet performance, the
classical Christmas ballet performance of the nutcracker.
My daughter's in it, and she's in our local performance here.
What racing is to my son Dallas is what dance is to my daughter Noel.
We don't talk about a lot here on this show, but everything we're doing with Dallas
with the racing is what we're doing with her with dance.
She's all chips in, man.
She loves it.
This is what she wants to do.
Anyway, the nutcracker is next week.
She has been rehearsing for this since August.
That's the big thing.
That's coming up next weekend as I record this.
Our oldest daughter, Emily, she has a couple of Christmas concerts at Iowa State.
She made the top ensembles at Iowa State.
She plays the French horn when she transferred there from Drake University.
She probably had some trepidation about making those top ones, but she did.
I'm going to hear her concerts, and I'm really looking forward to that.
And then, of course, the big thing in Kibbeland as well this weekend on December 7th is Dallas's
birthday.
He'll turn 17.
More on that in a second.
So Midwest snow, as mentioned that earlier, we did get a ton of snow this week.
Earlier than in many years past, far more akin to like when I was a kid.
I don't think we had snow on Thanksgiving Day, but we had it on the next day.
So our cars are all put away, everything.
The generals put away, the geos put away, the Chevelle's put away, and Dallas's 944 put away.
On his car, though, I pulled the gauges out and I pulled the radio out
because they both need refurb.
The radio has kind of been goofy since we got the car.
It does not have an AM band.
And like it worked twice and then the AM band died.
And then all the push buttons on the front kind of died.
The tape deck does work.
The way that he's been using it is he puts it on FM and then he has like one of
those little FM broadcasters that plugs into a cigarette lighter.
And he blew two to his phone to that.
That's basically how he's been making the radio part work.
But he would like it refurbished.
Retro sound does make a nice radio for 944s, but it's the earlier
interior style 944.
His is the later style.
He wants the original one back if we can get it.
So I popped it out.
It kind of remind me of high school days.
It's a DIN radio, you know, you just pull the little
cubby tray out underneath it.
And if you don't have the factory removal tools, you just push it really hard
from the back and it pops right out, disconnected everything.
I can already see that it's a reverb radio at some point in its life.
It was refurbished.
So I'll see if I can find somebody that can do that for the speedo and
tack, the tack was dead when we bought it.
So I bought a backup gauge set and I swapped that in.
But the backup set, while the tack itself swept, the little shift
light internally didn't work.
Well, the original one that we had, the shift light did work.
And the tack didn't sweep.
Well, now the speedo, the original speedo stopped sweeping.
I tested it with our backup set.
I verified it was indeed the speedo.
So I found this place called Atlanta Speedometer.
No sponsorship plug here.
I just thought you might like to know.
I'd never even heard of it till I was Googling for it.
I assume they do all sorts of stuff, but they do Porsche stuff.
So I packed up the gauge set and I sent it to him.
And my hope here is that in springtime when I started to pull
the car out, I've got two brand new pieces to just pop right back in.
And by the way, he can go enjoy it.
We really got that car up nice this year.
Got a water pump, timing belt, shock struts, brakes.
The only thing we haven't done yet is just new tires.
That's about the last thing that it needs from having sat for 20
years before we bought it.
So looking forward to that.
And for the other cars, for the Chevelle and the General Legia.
Well, I'm always dreaming, as you know.
And the truth is some of those dreams get offset by the Dalski
be racing budget, which they'll fill even on here for next year.
But for the Chevelle and the Gia and the General, I want the same
things now that I probably wanted a year ago.
However, for the Carmen Gia, I don't have the option to keep dreaming there.
Halfway through the year, something let go.
It has a massive oil leak.
The engine on that car has never been rebuilt ever while the body
was restored, the wiring harness and the engine are original 1973
original and that engine is coated in all sorts of goo and grossness.
And it's air cooled.
I can't entirely see where it's coming from.
But I'm pretty sure, you know, those push tubes that are on air
cooled engines that run from the block over the head, the tubes that hold
the push rods, I think the seals on the block side of one or many
of those tubes has let go when the engine is running, when the oil pumps
pumping, it's pumping oil out, I mean, at a steady clip.
So it's time for a rebuild there.
It's long overdue and that'll need to happen here over the winter.
I've looked at MP MP sells just total replacement stock engines for that.
Maybe I could go that route.
I don't think there's any value in a numbers match and VW air cooled
engine, but it's cool to me that we still haven't used that.
So I'd probably rather rebuild what we got, but that all
needed to happen over the winter for the General Le Chevelle.
Well, what I want to do with those is what I've always wanted to do.
But the truth is they are secondary to the Dallas Gibby racing budget.
That's just the truth.
Both of those cars run.
They're both finished products.
They're both awesome.
So everything I want to do is want not a need, but wants are fun.
For the Chevelle, I've always wanted a chassis and there's a lot of ways
to solve what that car is weak at without doing a full chassis.
But I don't want to do that.
But we already did that.
I want to do a full chassis for it.
There are several companies out there that I would love to have a chassis
from they all bring great features to the table that I like and appreciate.
And after 10 plus years of driving that car, there's also some changes
that are kind of more invasive that I want to make.
The biggest one is changing up the firewall.
When we did that car the first time, there was a lot of rust in there.
And when Jeff Alson had cut out the firewall, part of the lower windshield
tray got cut out to zip, put that all back together.
The end result, though, is when Jeff had the windshield tray out
when he remounted the dash and everything like that, it's about an
inch lower than it would be.
And it's great for driving position for racing.
But it's not that great for just daily driving.
The end result is the steering column is also about an inch lower.
So you kind of have the steering wheel sitting in your lap.
It has tilt column, so I just run the tilt up a little bit.
It works. Everything works fine.
Most people would never know the difference.
But after 10 plus years of driving it, there are some changes
that I'd like to make there.
And that would probably mean modifying the firewall and moving the dash up.
That's a pretty big change.
If you know those cars, the dash from the factory isn't removable.
So ours is removable and that was all done for all sorts of custom reasons.
But it is removable, but it now needs to be removed up.
So there's that for the general.
You know what it really needs? Seat cushions.
I don't know why because it's all new.
But the foam in those seats just isn't foamy enough.
When you get in, you still sink down about an inch and a half.
It is the weirdest thing.
The rest of the car, though, it drives great.
It needs more motor and it needs a five speed.
But those are the two things that would really make it great and a drift break.
Basically, I want to do the things to those two cars that I've always wanted to do.
You know, when you use something for so long, you get pretty confident
in why you want to make those changes.
So finally, let's do the Dallas Kibbey racing update.
Burn, cue the intro, please.
The Raryons lose cars fast, loses fast and on the edge, you're out of control.
So 2026 planning for Dallas's racing career has begun.
But really, this Sunday, December 7th is his 17th birthday.
And this is where it's going to start for next year.
I cannot tell you what it is because he might hear this before then.
But we have invested in something that he has wanted for a very long time
that is part of his racing career.
I will tell you what it is next week.
I will also tell you it will take me about a day to build it.
You may have figured this out already.
And if he's listening, he probably has.
But I will tell you all the details next week.
It's a pretty big project, but I'm proud of it for his racing career, though.
I'm planning to head to the PRI show next week in Indianapolis,
probably just for a day.
There's a couple of race teams there that I want to talk to.
There's a couple of sponsors there that I want to meet and mingle with.
The PRI show is an outstanding show.
Think of it like SEMA, but really concentrated and just for racing.
It's a very efficient, very effective show.
Very fun right there at the Indianapolis Convention.
So is it Lucas?
I can't remember, but it's a great show.
So that's really how I'm kicking off his next year season.
We do have some races planned starting in February.
Back up in Legends Guards.
Probably do more than just Legends next year.
But what's most important right now is that Dallas, you have a happy birthday.
I hope you hear this and we love you.
And that concludes the Dallas Kidby Racing Update.
OK, let's go ahead and get to the feature interview with Mr.
Rick Schmidt from NPD.
This is a look at the year that was 2025, the year that is to come.
Plus a look at what you'll really want to ask Santa for this year.
Take it away.
The Muscle Car Place weekly podcast interview is brought to you by our
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Up next on the National Parts Depot hotline is Mr.
Rick Schmidt from NPD.
Rick, Merry Christmas.
Yes, Merry Christmas.
Yeah, I mean, just like that, we just started in January, but it's over.
The year is nearly over.
Lights are up.
People are getting cozy for the next three months.
And maybe in Florida, that means they put on shorts.
I don't know.
I'll confess, I'm in shorts.
Yeah.
Now, we are recording this just before Thanksgiving.
I'm guessing something I would like to find out.
Before Thanksgiving, do you have your Christmas lights up at your house?
Never. Never. I knew it.
Never, ever.
It's just a point of principle for me at this point.
It's just like all the neighbors have their stuff up pre Thanksgiving.
But I do one holiday at a time and I don't skip over holidays.
I just feel like it's a huge slight.
Insult of Thanksgiving.
You know me, though. I mean, my guns are blazing.
You could land a plane by my house right now.
It is going.
Yeah, I just had a new roof put on my house last year.
So I haven't even thought about usually do icicle lights around the house,
which any more just about kills me, putting all that stuff up.
It's a tall Eve.
And I have to redo all of my little stick on fastener clips this year
if when I do the lights.
Oh, yeah.
I ended up meeting a guy from our church who is a farmer.
And in the off season, he does Christmas lights
and he charges very little to do it.
I was just calling him to buy lights.
He can just sell you the supplies to do like pro lights.
So you just cut the string off where you want it and put your clip on.
And you can make one big string of lights out of LEDs and one plug
and had no core, just nice and clean.
I said, well, what would you do in charge?
You install it and told me and like, I'll take it.
Where do I find it?
Yeah, that sounds good.
So and before the question, any Christmas traditions for the Schmidt House?
And I can tell you, we have one here that I didn't have as a kid, a Christmas dinner.
I don't remember doing that as a kid, but we do as a family.
What do you guys do as a tradition?
And I mean Christmas Day or Christmas Eve specific tradition.
Well, we used to always have a Christmas Eve tradition
to spend Christmas Eve with our extended family,
kids, grandparents and all of that.
We always like to get that out of the way on Christmas Eve so that on Christmas Day,
we weren't in that from sunup till late at night doing Christmas.
Unwrapping all the packages, getting everything cleaned up, packing
all of everybody into the car and then driving cross country to go over
to this grandmother's house or that and making disappearance in that
appearance. We very, very quickly, when our family was young, decided
that why are we ruining our Christmas doing all this?
So our tradition is to do all of the get in the family together,
hopefully in one spot, Christmas Eve and doing the family thing.
So the Christmas Day is just relaxing.
And yeah, obviously have some good munchies and hors d'oeuvres and meal.
And it doesn't have to be a fancy meal either.
Quite honestly, I think a lot of Christmas is all the girls
and me wanted was just a big pot of chili to go grab a bowl of as
needed, when needed, whenever during the day.
But just kick back, relax.
The girls used to play with the stuff they got.
Now everybody's older, similar, just be hanging around, watching
movies, probably just relaxing.
I do love for Christmas to be a day of like jammies.
Yeah, I can avoid putting on clothes all day.
I'm all for it, whatever that takes.
Right. If you still got other people to visit, if Christmas is on
hypothetically a Wednesday, we'll come see you on Saturday then.
We'll do late Christmas.
Yeah, we'll do early Christmas.
Christmas Day, though, the actual 25th, not leaving the house.
I love it. I totally agree.
OK, well, I thought here on our last show of 2025, we'd take a little
look back at the year that was and maybe make some 2026 predictions.
So there's so many things we could do for 2025.
But if I had to boil it all down for stuff that we've hit here on car
stuff, EVs and tariffs, that kind of came up all year,
whether we wanted to or liked it or not.
Right.
Tariffs looking back on the tariffs.
And here we are in November of 25.
And I think we're starting to see some results here.
But I'm not yet sure.
You know, I'll tell you, Mike Spagnola, the president CEO of SEMA,
he assumed there would be an inevitable bump in inflation.
It didn't know where, when, how, but he kind of said, I assume
that's coming. He said, I also think it'll all work out for the best.
What did you see?
I mean, here at the end of 25 on restoration parts, our prices trickling
up in a way that you expected.
What is going on?
Well, when I'm talking about inflation, usually I'm talking
about the entire consumer price index, everything.
And somehow, some way that has managed to increase only 3 percent
between this time last year and this time this year.
You can say, well, that's inflationary.
That's rather normal.
Anything two to three percent within that bracket year to year
is just normal.
You could even argue if you were a fancy healthy inflation,
because as we all know from the 1950s forward, things don't get
cheaper and the value of a dollar bill goes down a little bit
every single year.
That's part of the reality of a constantly growing population.
So this year, the CPI is normal.
However, I would say in the world of restoration parts,
we've seen some inflation.
And in fact, we had to make some kind of hard proactive
decisions with an awful lot of the container goods, the stuff
that we ordered directly from Taiwan that got walloped with
about 20 to 25 percent, depending on the category in August.
And now all of a sudden we get all these tariff updates
almost on a weekly basis from our broker, and it's enough
to make your head spin.
So don't ask me any specific questions because my head's
just spinning on the whole thing.
We are starting to see surgical changes and reliefs.
And OK, now China is down to this and now Taiwan is back
to a 20 percent reciprocal.
And it's all kind of settling out and it will all be the new normal.
But I haven't run the math yet, but I would say that our prices
across the board have increased.
And when I was talking about the numbers, I'll get to that
because our prices have increased more than that 3 percent
of the CPI this year.
I guarantee you that they had to because our costs went up.
You know, somebody does have to pay the tariffs and guess who
that is. So they did go up.
But in retrospect, if I really, really think about things
and look back over the last 15 to 20 years about our cost
basis on all these parts from overseas, and I'm most
tuned in with Taiwan, not so much with China.
I've always tried to stay loyal with our Democratic friends
there in Taiwan, who I strongly feel have a better
handle on quality control for an absolute fact.
If I really look back 15 or 20 years, prices rarely changed.
Man, those factories, you would negotiate a price for a
hundred pair of this or 50 pieces of that.
And here's what the price is.
And you'd lock that price in and five years later,
you'd look at the part where it's still charging the
same price. All these countries overseas are not so much
like U.S. distributors where almost every year,
sometime in January, back in the day when everything was
on paper, but now it's all in the Excel spreadsheet
files, distributors, manufacturers, what not.
Every year you get a new price sheet and damn,
if a lot of stuff didn't tweak up a little bit,
pretty much at the rate of inflation at the time.
Percent, 3%, 5% if it was a terribly inflationary period.
The prices were always thoughtically creeping up with
a lot of this imported stuff that's the group known as
restoration parts.
Not so much if I'm paying $70 for a front bumper back
in 2010, I was probably paying $75 for the same bumper
in 2022.
Follow me?
They never went up.
So where I'm getting at, if I were able to actually go
back and just run the numbers on what my costs were for a
whole range of different products 20 years ago and
then looked at what my costs were today, including
the tariffs.
And then I plotted that against the inflation that
has happened in our economy since then.
I would probably draw the conclusion that none of
it is any more expensive now than it was then.
If anything, parts were getting cheaper and
cheaper and cheaper for the hobby over the last 10
years or so, because none of the prices ever went up.
While everything else in life is getting more
expensive and wages are going up, then trades
people who were charging by the hour for their
electrician or their AC repair or for their
construction business, everybody's rates are
going up and they're getting more revenue in
because of that, because of inflation, but then
the prices of the parts were over being in the
same and rarely going up or rarely moving.
Now, over the last two or three years, the
restoration parts market has responded.
It's like a rubber band that finally snaps and
now everything's more expensive, but it's kind
of like a correction.
If I were really to go back 20 years and do
all the math, we've had a correction and now
we're kind of back where we were, we're
caught up with the rest of the world and now
we just march forward from here.
I didn't know that really, if you had that
decade plus look over our industry
specifically, that our costs really weren't
yet. That I didn't realize.
Yeah, manufacturers would announce that they're
raising prices a little bit, but it would be
like every four or five years and it would
because the steel market had a blip and the
price of steel had gone up considerably.
And then when the price of steel would go
back down again, they'd say, okay, never
mind because of the competitive forces
over there. So they would keep prices as
low as they can.
So it's such a broad selection of
stuff like, you know, we've got over 1,300
different suppliers we're dealing with.
It's hard for me to cite any real accurate
examples for you.
Let's look at 2026 here.
Two questions.
The first is on OEM EVs and the second
is on online auctions.
So on EVs, just take your best guess for
2026. The last quarter of 25 EV sales
kind of died.
They tanked because the subsidy tanked.
I think we're of the same opinion that
hybrids are probably where people will land.
But in general, what do you think is going
to happen in 2026?
I mean, I just bring in Hemmys to everything.
Gas gas and more gas.
You know, upon the performance side, Chevy
has a car entered in NASCAR in 2026
that looks like a Camaro, sounds like a
Camaro, but just doesn't say Camaro.
Ford's EVF 150, it may just
entirely go away.
It's hard to say there.
Yeah.
What do you think is going to happen in 2026
for OEM sales?
Just in general, I don't see
going bigger, but I have no idea.
I thought the electric pickup trucks
in bare bones style as cheap as you
could get them would be popular along
all the pool cleaning services
people and parts delivery people
and stuff like that stuff where you're
just staying in the city and you can
make it from the beginning of the day
to the end of the day on one charge
and then just plug it in back at the shop.
I thought that those would be more
popular with businesses
as service trucks, but
I have not seen any electric service
trucks rolling through my neighborhood
or up to my house.
So apparently the numbers don't work
on that.
As far as EVs in general, I think
the bottom's already kind of dropped
out of that, but it's settled
at a floor that is probably
sustainable and will remain
going in and through 2026.
In other words, whoever's
building a good EV
and is able to do it at a worthwhile
profit will continue to sell them.
So I think Tesla is OK.
I think Ford is OK with their Maki.
I've seen more and more of those out.
I think those are actually I haven't
even looked at what the sales are for
them. I've just seen more of them
for two literally just trying to
give them away because to use up
production capacity.
I don't know what's going on there.
And then I know the Japanese makers
in the cream of the each have
their little tiny EVs and electric
versions of stuff.
I think we're already at what we're
going to see in 2026.
But what has gone away is
Ford and GM and a lot of the other
major manufacturers saying
by 2030, our entire
product line is going to be electric.
They said that, but they were all
moving at warp speed towards
all electric and none of them
are now. I think they're just going
to squat right where they're at
with the products that they've got.
They'll continue to offer them for
people who still want to buy them.
They'll make those same damn cars for
the next 10 years if they have to
just to finally get across
the finish line in the black instead
of in the red.
I wholeheartedly agree in OEMs.
What you hear on the news about
car sales has nothing to do with
what the OEMs are actually doing.
They're working on stuff for what
they're making today and for the
next five years and the next 10
years.
Those companies are battleships,
not fighter jets.
What we as consumers get is years
from when it was created.
Because the standards are set so
high these days for reliability,
durability, and then the government
standards are so thick.
There's so many things that they
have to abide by
and test in all sorts of different
circumstances that it does take
four or five years to bring
a theoretical product to market
and that's moving fast.
So, yeah, all of the manufacturers
are always five, 10 years out ahead
of what's sitting on the lot right
now. And then they're very
secretive about what
they're working on for competitive
reasons. So, none of them are
really blabbing about what's
coming up in the next five or 10
years now. They were when they
are all going forward with all
electrics, but now it's back to
being secretive and very close to
the best.
I have a feeling that Ford's
little Maverick pickup when that
EV is available, I think that
will probably do well.
Yeah, that's in its lane.
The lightning being the full size
of the EV is just too big
and too expensive.
Final 2026 prediction
and this is when we use all the
time online auctions.
Everybody, Rick, is copy and bring
a trailer. Everybody.
All right. So Hemmings
converted an option, but
Hemmings has always been a
leader. Haggerty has an online
marketplace. Doug DeMiro has the
cars and bid thing.
They're all kind of a nice
version of eBay.
What do you think will online
car auctions peak out in 2026
or only get more saturated?
I don't know. I would just be
throwing a dart at the wall with
a blindfold on if I answered
that.
You're saying next year.
Yeah, a year from now. I'm going
to say years from now.
I don't think there will be six,
seven, eight, a plethora
of different auction companies.
I think it will be down to
two or three that have
the best mousetrap and
the best reputation, whether
it's an online auction company or
it's a live auction company
reputation for standards and
ethics and doing fair business
and when something rotten
went across the auction block,
standing behind the buyer instead
of shielding the rotten and
crooked seller is important
with an auction company.
I don't have a familiarity with
all these different upstart
online auction companies.
I just don't know how they're
all operating or what their
reputations are.
I know that bring a trailer seems
to be very, very hot right now.
But maybe there's opportunity
because with all these online
auction companies, there are
fees involved and there's hoops
to jump through.
And it's all about the money.
So there's room for an online
auction company that, say, has a
reputation for always bringing
top dollar, but you pay the
Cadillac fees.
Then there'll be room for another
auction company that's much more
every man set up to where
it's not just high end cars and
rare low mile collectibles.
It's everything that's
collectible, but with really
low attractive fees to where it
makes it a less prohibitive
marketplace where you don't see
10 or 15 percent of the
purchase price of the vehicle
go in either direction.
I don't know enough about
them. I've never bought.
I think I did put in a bid
once or twice on bring a
trailer.
I've never won an online
auction.
I think I've also purchased a
vehicle or two and I can't remember
what it was on eBay, but that was
a long, long ago.
And eBay was pretty much the only
auction online.
I have no idea myself.
I can tell you there are a few
different businesses that
I get nothing but saturated with
now. Business market styles,
like online giveaway cars,
which is something I'm
interested in.
But they're not really giveaways.
They're sweepstakes and online
auction companies are everywhere.
And I'm kicking myself because I
had one 15 years ago
and it wasn't working.
So I switched to podcasts.
I was going to ask you one more
question.
How about this in 2026?
Right now, there are a couple of
80s cars that are coming on really
strong.
And that's the later generation
Fox body Mustangs and third gen
Camaros.
What do you think? Which one's
going to go extra white hot in
2026?
Third gen Camaros or Fox
body Mustang.
And I mean the later Fox
bodies like 86 and newer.
Yes, they already kind of
did the white hot thing a couple
of years ago.
And now that they're there and I
would even say just with
everything else, the post covid
economy has had a little bit of
correction for everything.
Even the auction companies are
seeing lower prices
and lower sell-throughs
post covid as things are kind of
settling down and correcting.
I wouldn't say we're in a
recession.
We're in a correction.
So that's kind of corrected up,
but the Fox bodies are already
there.
The third generation F
body Camaros and Firebirds
have been late to the party, but
I'm seeing signs of them to get
there where you get a really low
mile, like a one L.E.
Camaro or a W.S.
Six.
Did they have the W.S. Six on the
third generation? No, I don't think
so. I like it.
Yeah.
I thought so.
I don't know.
They have the W.S.A.
It was a chassis package.
They have the Ram-Aaron kind of
stuff.
It was still just the handling
package.
Anyhow, they're coming.
This is going to be controversial
for all the GM and Chevrolet
faithful.
Because he can make any car fast,
OK?
But back in those days
in the mid to late 80s and early
90s, I'm 58 now.
I was right in the heart of
that whole entire competition
between Fox body Mustangs and
F-Body Marathon Firebirds.
I owned an 85 Iraq.
It was the best looking car.
Maybe I've ever owned and maybe
the worst quality car.
The oldest one that one.
The Radley package.
What it was not was fast.
And then I moved to an 88 Mustang
GT convertible and all of a
sudden now that was a run in car
and not only whether to run in
car, the availability
for modifications was just
other work, you know.
And let's take your choice.
You've exhaust cylinder heads
and takes.
It was all easy to do.
Easy to deal with the engine
management and fuel control.
Just easy, easy, cheap.
It was like Ford took pages
straight from the GM book with
the small block Chevrolet and how
those were so cheap and easy to
make really fast.
And now all of a sudden for a
new car, drive it off a lot and
do day two modifications.
It was those Fox bodies that
were easy to quickly
get into the thirteenth series and
the twelfth at the drag strip.
It was not so easy and not so
quick to get those F bodies
doing that at the drag strip.
As such, I grew up
in Gainesville, Florida.
Just to the north of me was
Gainesville Raceway, a very
high quality NHRA track.
Me and my buddies were there almost
every Saturday night.
So I watched that rivalry
between the Fox bodies and the
F bodies from 1988
to the mid to late 90s
because then I moved on to a
93 LP one Corvette six speed
and that's what I drag race
out there.
And then I was starting to torque
some of the Fox body friends.
But we're talking about third gen
F bodies, third gen
F bodies, even though
they are rising in value.
A lot of people love them.
A lot of people are nostalgic
about them. They're paying big
money for them now.
But oh my gosh, did they get
whipped up on in reality?
At the racetracks
by the Mustangs.
I think the Mustangs are always
going to kind of have more
of a wave.
There's more young people
back then that looked at the
Mustangs as being the
the want.
If you want to go fast, of
course, there's the Grand
Nationals, but Grand Nationals
were for the richer older guys
back then.
We always had some Grand
Nationals kicking our butts
out of the drag strip, but
they are always gray haired old
men who could afford one.
We were stuck with our Mustangs.
And I had a lot of friends
with Mustangs that could tear up
the Grand Nationals, too.
They just, you know, super
charging or throw big nicer skips
on them with big exhaust and big
heads and cam and the way
we went. But I think the
Fox bodies, they're more
plentiful because I don't think
as many of the F bodies
they didn't sell as well.
And I don't think as many have
survived to present day as
the Fox bodies have been kind
of drug out of fields and
actually rebuild, but they're
more plentiful.
So there's more on the market.
I think the Mustangs are
going to continue to be a little
bit more valuable.
Just walking around SEMA for
the first time, I saw full
chassis options for both cars.
Yeah. And usually to me, that
means like somebody thinks
there's value in both.
And I mean, some of the good
guys think that. So I don't
know. Yeah.
Once the fourth generation of
both cars came out, the SN
95s and the F bodies, then
the whole thing flipped and the
F bodies were tearing up on the
Mustangs left and right.
The LT 1350s just
completely changed.
And then the LS ones, those
completely flipped the whole
entire dynamic.
But you asked me about third
generation boxes
and F bodies.
Yeah. The Fox was the bad
daddy and F bodies.
If you wanted to build a fast
one, you almost had to kind of
start from the crank and build
up.
Let's take a look at our car
pick segment.
So this is where we ask Rick
to take his crystal ball and
answer a hypothetical question
and pick one of three cars.
And this is the holiday
edition, Rick.
So you have in your inbox
three cars and Rick Santa
he digs red.
He always picks red.
And in his magic bag of toys,
he has three driver quality
muscle cars, not concourse
cars, just cars, fun cars.
He's got a Dodge, a Chevy and a
fourth. Which one would
bring the most joy to one
lucky recipient on Christmas
morning and have the most
potential ROI value for
them to. So meaning they get
it, they improve it and they
can sell it before next Christmas.
And even though they didn't buy a
car, they'd see a big jump in
value. Know what I mean?
OK.
You're a good sport.
I had a meeting with my CPA last
week and I think I thought, oh,
God forbid you get a car as a
gift with zero cost basis
and then you sell it for a huge
amount of money because now the
government is going to go after
you for the entire game.
OK, well, I'm not Santa.
So I can't tell you how his
finance is worth.
Somebody gives it to you, but
any how let's see here.
Maybe on the books you say you
pay for it, but we all know Santa
really did.
Well, you don't see these at
every cruise in the first one
is a 64 Dodge Dart
GT convertible
273 four speed.
Yeah. Driver quality car, but
it looks clean and
presentable.
Got a bit of a boopy long
exhaust on it.
For those that don't know these
cars, they don't look like a
late 60s Dodge in any way, shape
or form.
The early Dodgers are kind of
homely looking cars that some
people really, really dig just
for the quirkiness of them.
They're kind of quirky.
They're kind of cool.
They're not sexy like a Mustang
Camaro or GTA or Chevelle.
There's no way you're going to
call this dart a sexy
design.
It's rare.
It's unique.
There's an awful lot of value
though a lot of people in
having something that's off the
beaten path, especially the
Mopar enthusiasts.
It's a really deep car, but what
we got one day left.
It's only bid 8600.
If somebody got this as a gift,
it's unique.
It's rare.
I see a few things on it that
you can only have a nice
the styling is too polarizing
and just kind of too
weird for it to
have some sort of all of a
sudden via skyrocketing
collectibles that's going to
gain a lot of value.
Big return.
OK, let's put a pin on that one.
I chose it because well, it's
red.
Well, not me.
Santa chose it because it's
red. I assume he would like
that.
When you see this car, it has
two round headlights and they
look like they are two
X, a standard
vehicle round headlight of the
day. They look huge.
Well, you know what I
guarantee it was inspired by
was the Chrysler turbine
cars.
Yes, there you go.
I could not figure that out a
year before that.
Yeah, the very Chrysler turbine
car type of front end on it.
Super cool. It's not like it's
cool to me because I'm kind of
a geek for weird stuff.
Let's be honest.
These are kind of weird little
cars.
What do we have for car number
two? Now, this is not weird at
all. This is his mainstream
muscle.
Right down center of Main
Street, USA.
Sixty seven Chevelle SS
three ninety six coupe
four speed.
It's not a pillar car.
It's a two door coupe red
with black vinyl top.
These are just a really handsome
great looking car.
You know that I love sixty six
and sixty seven a bodies
just for that gorgeous roof line
with the sea pillars that are
sails.
And the inset rear window.
This is a timeless car with
timeless design will always
be in demand.
They'll always be worth what
they're kind of worth.
They could increase in value.
I mean, shoot, this is just a
driver car here and it's
already up to forty five thousand
dollars. That's plenty of money
for a car that's cool
for cruisans and cars and coffees,
but you can, you know, enter into
an ACA show and expect
to go up through the ranks.
Rick, I have no idea if this is
a numbers matching car.
I don't know. I don't care.
It's red and it's cool.
It's got the console with the
tack in it. They're showing the
engine stamping corresponding
with the Vintag.
Is it?
OK, given the benefit of the
doubt, let's say it's a
numbers matching car.
I don't think it'd be a forty
five.
And it looks like they're
doing full disclosure here on the
listing.
But it's got all this aftermarket
custom chrome stuff under the hood.
None of the details are right.
It is not a show car.
It is a driver car.
Yeah. End of story.
So this is a lot of money for a
driver car.
You're never going to lose
money on a sixty seven Chevelle
SS.
OK, as long as you don't over
pay ridiculously for it.
If you pay market for it,
you'll always be able to find
another mother for it.
What do we have for car
number three?
Another driver quality red car.
This is a seventy one Mock
one Mustang three fifty one
four speed.
It's a four barrel.
So it's an M code attractive
car.
Nice stance.
Red with black stripe interior
to go with the match the
outside was just pretty cool.
I like that even though whoever
upholstered the seats should
have taken it to a professional
trim shop.
Looks like they tried to put
the newest seat upholstery
over old rotten
collapsed phone.
I like these cars.
Everybody's going to accuse me
on Rick's just a Ford guy.
I've just always liked these
cars.
It's just a really attractive
car. Cool looking.
Yeah.
Chin spoiler wing on the back.
I would fix some things on it
straighten some things up.
But this is the one that I
would personally want Santa to
drop off from my driveway.
Because I like this car in red.
I'm not so much in love
with the Chevelle in red with
the black roof.
OK.
If that makes any sense whatsoever.
I like the one that are in red.
I think it's just because of the
graphics and everything that go
with the whole entire look.
Forget about me.
And let's just talk about which
one are you going to get for a
gift in a year or two.
You're going to get the best
ROI on.
Yeah.
The Dodge is going to sell for
10 grand at the best.
The Mustang again.
This is all Santa's buck so it
doesn't care.
With three hours to go the Mach
one is at 18 to 50
and the Chevelle's be close to
45.
Yeah.
The Chevelle whoever it is the
folks who are bidding on that
really want that car.
I think they're already sailing
past what I would think it's
worth.
The Mach one I think is right
now still a very good and
fair buy.
It might go up another five
grand when it comes down to the
last minute and everybody
really starts jabbing back and
forth with bids.
The 71 through 73 Mustangs
especially the Mach ones have
always been kind of the red
headed stepchild of the first
generation Mustangs because
all the traditionals think that
they're too big.
They're too fat for this or that
but I've owned one and there's
a lot of attributes that are
nice about them.
They're roomier inside for a
person who's you know I'm six
foot one who's six foot tall
or taller.
They handle and steer
very well.
They go down the road about
as good or better than many of
their predecessors
and that three fifty one four
barrel Cleveland is a hell of
a power plant.
I think they're dynamite
looking cars and as years
go on more and more people
are starting to appreciate these
cars. So I think the
prospects of the 71 through
three Mach ones becoming
more valuable than they already
are is there
whereas the sixty seven Chevelle
has been in demand for 30
frigging years now as far as a
collectible vehicle even
more.
The Mach one is just now
finally getting out from under
the shadow of its younger
brothers or older brothers
rather if that makes sense.
I'm going for the Mach one.
The Dodge is cool and it's rare
and where do you even find a GT
convertible four speed
and yet nobody's stepping up to
pay big money for this car and I
don't see that happening
within the next year or two
either.
Of these three I can't argue
with your logic and looking at
the Mustang is cool looking
cool looking always sells.
It just does.
Yes for funsies
without a lot of analysis
Santa does have another bag of
toys back there for those with
expensive taste and it doesn't
have to be read.
So let's just say Santa says
you can have any one of these
three but pick the one
that you think is going to be a
home run in five years to get
rid of and again they don't
have to be read.
So what do we have for Santa's
first.
Actually you can look at them
all at the same time now that
I think about it.
What do we have for car number
one.
I've always thought these cars
were cool just because my dad
was actually toying around with
many a times you know back in
the day we would leave
an afternoon movie as a family
and then drive by the
Datsun dealership and dad would
kind of stare in the windows at
these two forty V's.
They intrigued him.
He never bought one.
They are expensive and I like
the early ones the early ones
with the smaller front bumpers
and all that good stuff and no
emissions.
This is a nineteen seventy two
two forty Z four speed but it
is one of the vintage restoration
program cars meeting that
it is one of thirty seven cars
that were built out of parts
by Nissan North America in the
nineteen nineties.
So it's kind of like a
those continuation.
Cobra.
Yeah it's the same thing only
it's a two forty Z.
The trajectory of value
for these cars does not
follow the same curve I think
as a beautiful
ultra low mile or a beautifully
properly restored original
would be the originals of the
originals the recreations
of the recreations.
I don't think they like to call
these recreations because they
were built with all original
parts.
But I don't know where to
land on this car until I see
the other two that you've
picked out.
This sucker is already sixty
thousand five hundred dollars.
Got almost three hours left
to go five or six years from
now.
These are hard. These are tough
especially since they only built
thirty seven.
How about the next one.
Now the next one should be easy
to understand.
Yep. Sixty seven shall be
fifty five hundred.
Fastback.
Red car.
They're asking three hundred
and fifty thousand dollars at
the pile of money even for a
sixty seven GT five hundred.
They're really trying to bring
the bell here.
It's pretty.
And it looks to be very
documented. Beautiful.
Don't know what to tell you
here.
But the Shelby's are already
expensive. Well they get even
more expensive than five or six
years.
Well I really don't know.
I'm really lost at this point.
Let's look at the third one.
What do we have for car number
three.
Oh I like this one.
Sixty nine charger.
B five blue with a white top.
An RT B five blue with a white
top. Have a white interior blue
interior.
It is a great color combo.
I don't know if it's the
original engine that somebody has
put a six pack on it.
Which was a four forty six pack
in it.
Yeah. And the six pack wasn't a
thing in sixty nine on this car.
I don't think it was.
But it is a great looking car.
I think you could get a six
pack in these but I don't know
you might be a more expert than
I am upgraded to six pack.
OK.
You're right.
I know you could on other mo
parts. I just didn't think it
was a charger thing.
But this is a market I know
well. I have no idea where
it's going to land.
But they're asking a hundred
and eighteen thousand dollars
for this car.
That's that's plenty.
It's right down here in Bradenton
close to me.
Oh how convenient.
Yeah. I would love to have this
car as Santa was delivering
either the dots in the Shelby
or the charger to me.
I would ask for him to deliver
this charger to me and I would
leave the six pack on it and
I would drive it and enjoy it.
And you think in five years
that's the one that will give
you the in five years.
It's going to be between the
Shelby and the charger.
Shelby's are already so lofty
in value.
Maybe there's more room for the
charger to kind of fill in that
vacuum that's below the Shelby
but above what they're valued
at right now.
Let's forget this hundred and
eighteen thousand price tag they
have on it. Say that maybe this
is a seventy or eighty thousand
other car.
And I think there's five or
six years from now.
There's plenty of room for that.
Nice chargers.
If you've noticed but you don't
see too many available
that often.
Truly nice ones.
Even ones that I look at and I
was like well I'd have to start
all over on that because nothing's
done well at all.
Those types of cars the hastily
done auction cars.
Even those you don't see that
often.
There's a weird thing with these
cars now that I've got one I
drive one for fun.
I parked this next to my
Chevelle all the time my next
to my Chevelle.
It's a bigger car in every
dimension except the interior.
It's smaller.
When you get in this car it's
more like a Camaro inside.
I measured the interior with
yeah door panel to door panel
then I compared it against my
Chevelle.
I think my Chevelle's got a total
of three inches more side to
side.
And I've always wondered why do I
feel roomier in the Chevelle than
the Charger Charger is much
bigger.
They are a weird dichotomy.
It's a huge car that
you feel like you're in a
sports car.
When you really study the
styling of the car the
narrowness of the roof rails
and the sea pillars.
It's all tucked in there.
That's what creates that
coke bottle effect
and makes the rear hips of the
car look so dynamic and
sexy.
And that's a huge styling
aspect of the car.
And I love that because there's
so many cars that I can point
you out in my collection where
the packaging of the car is
completely absurd.
You've got this enormous car
with this enormous trunk and
not a whole lot of room in the
back seats.
You know.
But it was all about styling
back then to hell with the
family or the passengers in
general. It was all about the
styling. And that's what I love
about 68 and 69 in specific
chargers. I've always wanted one
because I think they're just one
of the best looking cars
in the collectible sphere.
So I'm going to pick this one
just because I like it so much.
OK. There's no wrong answer.
And if I like it this much
other people must like it this
much in five years from now
even more of us will like it
that much.
Santa doesn't bring crap in his
bag of toys.
I think that's the truth.
Well Rick from me to you and our
whole audience thank you again
for another year together.
It has been a treat to do the
ask Rick segments.
I look forward to next year.
This is one of our more popular
segments. And thank you overall.
These are fun to do. And I
appreciate it. My honor to do it.
So I appreciate it.
Thank you Rob.
All right. Rick Merry Christmas
and I'll see you in 2026.
Merry Christmas buddy.
Thank you Rick. Excellent as
always. OK.
That is it for this week.
I am headed to the PRI show next
week but I'm sure I'll record
next week's show before I leave.
So I'll give you a little more
update about that.
We'll have Riley Hodson on next
week from Hodson Motors to talk
about how the sweepstakes in
giveaway world works.
That's really fascinating.
Super interesting.
You probably get hit up by
those ads on Facebook and
Instagram all the time. So do
I. And the week after that
we're going to have the big
man on the head honcho.
The big cheese.
You know his name and you
know what he says all the
time.
That's right.
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I'm done for this week.
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About this episode
Rick Schmidt joins to reflect on 2025 and forecast 2026, discussing the impact of tariffs on restoration parts prices and the evolving landscape of electric vehicles. He shares insights on the muscle car market, comparing box body Mustangs and third-gen Camaros, while also addressing online auction trends. The episode includes a holiday-themed car pick segment, where Rick evaluates three classic cars for their investment potential. Listeners will gain valuable perspectives on market trends and practical advice for car enthusiasts looking to invest wisely.
Original notes
In this Christmas edition of Ask Rick, we sit down with Rick Schmidt to talk holiday traditions, family time, and how he celebrates the biggest day of the year. Rick shares what Christmas looks like in the Schmidt household—good food, classic movies, and quality time with the people who matter most. As we wrap up 2025, it’s the perfect moment to slow down, reflect, and appreciate another great year in the world of Muscle Cars.
Rick also gives his year-end perspective on the shifting automotive landscape, from the sharp rise in restoration part prices to the evolving future of EVs, hybrids, and traditional fuels. He weighs in on the booming online auction scene and whether the growing number of platforms is helping or hurting sellers. It’s a thoughtful, honest look at where the hobby is heading as we roll into 2026—one that every enthusiast will want to hear.
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