Tommy F Yeah From GarageSZero - EP.133

Hey, and welcome back to the next episode of the right hand drive guys podcast the podcast for guys who like right hand drivesI'm Bobby. This is Aaron. Yeah, go and we are here at garage S zero with Tommy and Jack and

We're like, hey, you know, Connecticut's close enough. We're up here in Eastbound, fuck main

We should come down see what the boys are doing. Just chat it up a little bit. Yeah, we're probably the most local to you, right?

Yeah, yeah, you and Jimmy. Yeah, we tell him he's like 45 minutes. Oh, he's he's close. That's cool. Yeah

And so obviously, you know, everybody knows you from YouTube, right? That's that would you say that's true?

Don't say that's true. My subscriber count, but yeah

I'm outside for sure. That's like probably where maybe this really escalated for you as far as your career what YouTube?

Yeah, did that help propel you toYeah, so like YouTube was it was a weird it was a weirdStartBasically what happened is a youtuber. I was I used to part out cars

Yeah, so like I had a bunch of e36s, which I thought was like a really good car back in the dayYou know, I always had to like get them and take them apart everything anythingI got to take it apart and see what I like when I don't like so it's not really like e36s as far as part outSo my first cars were like Honda's and stuffAnd then I got I had some fd's I had some 240's this other youtuber reach out to meI didn't know they were youtuber. They didn't know who I was, you know

I guess got a DM of a DM or whatever on Craigslist and it was like heyI want the blower motor for that 240 because I was part of like a cookie S14. Oh, yeah, so I was like yeah sure, but you're gonna take it out

One a blower motor 60 bucks. I'm not gonna waste my time and two I was actually out of wedding while this was happening

Like dressed up so like I come now and I was like well, I'm at the after party like I can leave you knowTo see if I can sell them some extra stuffSo I went down there and and this kid was like showed up with three people two other peopleHe's like, oh, I got you know, he's talking about what he didHe basically like just mouthVomited all of it, you know, he might as well tell me social security number at the timeBut it was like I got all these subs I make this much money and I you knowThis is why and I can't get a garage space because I'm 17 or 18 and no one rent to me

They don't believe I make money doing YouTube that so I was likeYou can film in here don't film me, you know, I don't know you yeah, andDid the deal they leftAnd while it was there he was like looking at some other stuff. I went home that night

I owned a landscaping business and I watched all of his videos like stayed up all night. Oh damn

He did he research. Oh, that was the worst content I've ever seen and that was like my biggest downfall was

Assuming that that mattered right so I'm watching this and I'm like this kid's not very smartHe's not very well spoken. He's not good at cars

He doesn't have any cool carsYou know and the and the person who didn't even know you can make money off YouTube is watching this goingI could do this way better than this dude. So the next day

Sleep deprived I called him and I was like hey, you still need garage space. I had 80,000 square foot warehouse

It was like it was not good. It was not good. It sounds it was cool

But it was like bear the wires run illegally and you know sketchy. Yeah, so I was like I'll give you some space you help me with your

YouTube channel andHe kind of like charcoal. He's like no problem like he thought this was you know

He was good to go because as a YouTuber now you know like all your friends everyone you meet like I just started YouTubeYou know what I mean? Yeah, go go the fuck ahead

You know but uh he kind of had that attitude and he even said like later on like I never thought you'd do itYou know, but that was August or September of 2016 and I got my first check January 2017 for 1800 bucksDamn, yeah, and it takes a while as I meanSo this was early YouTube where you didn't have to meet those like thresholds. Yeah, right?

It was like you upload a video. It went viral. You got paid

I think there was like a hundred dollar threshold before they'd like pay you or whatever but it was like it was a hundredYeah, you didn't need like 10,000 watch hours and all that other nonsenseIt was just like you if you go viral you get paid we run ads. I've actually video you get paid

So I got in like the perfect time and having him around you knowLike I said it like all humbled it didn't humble me, but it humbled me a little bit thinking likeOh, I'm gonna I'm just gonna be myselfThis kids a fucking idiot, you know, this is real thoughts like he's not smart. So I was like I can make fun of him

Which is what I love to do but then I started doing that and his like hardcore viewers are getting like upsetYou know, they're like who'd and I'm thinking like I was a bunch of pussy's you knowSo I started like you're a pussy thing. So I don't know how long if you guys watch like long and yeah

My first like merch shop was a sticker that said you're a pussy no spaces because when people would complainI'd go in the comments and just write you're a pussy no spaces because I didn't want to get in trouble on YouTubeYou're a pussy and we'd say it like that not a ear pussy. So

Thank you god these kids are so soft. Remember thank you. Thank you ear pussy

So I was like god all these people are so soft. So I like I didn't tone it down, but I like you know just start finding the way and

It was cool. It was like it's cool, but it's people don't get it. It's um

It's like a crazy double-edged sword right cuz let's say you make a million dollars you tubingYou're spending you are justifying spending a million dollars because you're doing things you like right like yeahOh, I have I have a hundred K in any content. I'm gonna go buy this car or whatever 10k and I'm gonna go buy this car

And now you're getting like rewarded for terrible financial decisions and you're justifying and goingOh, this is my job right like if you want a construction company and I think toys will buy in a hammerRight that's kind of how it is a youtuber like I need I need this content to continueSo like a lot of the youtubers that I know and yet you seeAre working not paycheck to paycheck. They're working like negative to

Neutral you know what I mean like that's that's how it's going all the time until you like break out andShit, I don't even know if like I know LZ's pass up, but I but not always you know what I meanIt's not like he he's doing stuff at such a bigger level that like when he wants to buy a car that's200 grand, you knowI know it's a tab in him out, but it's putting a dent in his wallet like pretty big just the same asSomeone with 10,000 subs buying a 5,000 R car, you know make sense. So it's it's it's this weird facade where you think like

Well, you justify doing what you love because you can make moneyBut you're really not making any money. You're just buying a bunch of shit that you want look at this fucking room

Just buying a bunch of shit you want, you know, yeah, and it feels like you're living I mean you are but likeIt's a nonstop grind because if you stop for two days you get to watch your money go downYou get to watch it's like think about that like a normal job, you know if likeYou didn't show up a day, you know you lose that dayImagine that day is your month salary, you know because that's kind of you could miss a day like videos nowI just tell everyone like 10,000 or a million views is 10,000 bucks

You know that's like a good like it's between seven and 12, but it's you know 10,000 bucks. So

You know lose a million views you're losing 10,000 bucks. Yeah, that's pretty wild to put into that perspective where you know

You're buying these things that are considered tools because you got to make content constantly, but they're costing you so muchThat you can't really stopWell, that's yeah, that's the reason the giveaway thing started. I mean it

In every youtuber's defense like giveaways are the coolest thing ever because you get to build a car for contentYou get to buy and experience it and be a shopaholic and you know do all the stuff and then you get to give it away andAt the very least you're gonna break even usually, you know like I've lost on twoGiveaways, you know, so it's like okay, and you learn and you get better and it's just they need merchThey need sponsor deals. They need giveaways. They need it, you know because the ad rev I

meanI Jimmy's maybe getting two million views a month, right?

So in a in a grand scale best case scenario is making 20 grand a month. He's got a full-time tech

He's got travel expenses. He's got tools and electricity and you know, his business doesn't make any other money

Right, you know his merch does well, but like he doesn't have a cousin of customersYeah, yeah, right. He's just oak's garage is not turning over. No, you're right and even when it does it's like

It's still like there's pretty much all the resources are gonna be soaked up by whatever it is you're doingSo it's not like you're able to like put a bunch of money in your pocket like this place like it's great. It's cool for content

But I could see I couldn't imagine being LZ who pretty much has this place without the business sideRight, you know, this is all coming out of his assLike you know every every person he sees walk by is causing a moneyMm-hmm, right all of something that theyPotentially didn't have a lot to do with and they make they make careers out of thatYou know, it's not like this like a side job for those guys. That's their job. Are you talking about Adam or the people walking by the people that

At Adam'sYeah, that's there they're hoping that Adam succeeds forever, right? Like just like any other job. Yeah, make so

So all those people rely on like Adam's YouTube channelThat's why when you think about it like that. Yeah, I mean YouTube is huge

It's so important for him, but at the same timeIt's the least amount of money he makes probably would be from ad revGiveaways merge this that all that's good and it markets everything else drift HQ all that stuff, but the ad rev isYou knowWhatever whatever it is it could be way too low and you're likeWe got to dip into the merch money or we got to dip into drift HQ or I got a sell a car to make sure everyone makes you know, so I make payroll soYou know it's that could be stressful. Yeah like in that sense, you know because from the outside perceptions everything

Yeah from the outside it looks like dude these guys are living the life. They're killing it. They're doing whatever they want

I'm good friends. I'll see if I call them right now. It wouldn't answer so you know

I mean he's busy or he texts meI literally have a text from from last night where I tried to call him about something and his response wasThat's not it his response was likeCan I call you later? I said how long and he said two hours

And then he said actually call me because I'm swamped so I called him two hours laterYou know, I mean like that was at six o'clock at night right he was still on a call. Yeah, so it's like

You know TJ's probably got a little more likeI don't want to say simpler life. He's got his own things, but like he doesn't have the facility and the employees

Adam does you know that overhead and then to see how easy it can be taken away from you orEffective negatively affected negatively, you know everyEvery one of them is at somepseudo semi-controversialthing thatThey had to go through and he or she for people on the internetYou know about it that really didn't know the situation and you're not immune to that. No, I'm not I'm not immune to that

So like yeah, so likeThat's the that's the craziest part of it is you think you have like a fan baseBut for some reason everyone kind of to an extent wants to seePeople in higher positions to worse than them that makes them feel better about that I think yeahBecause I've never been like that type of hater where I saw like Adam Elzino's likeI'm better at this than him. I I mean, I guess I did when I met

The youtuber that came to my shop. Well for you to it's like that David and Goliath complex. Yeah, you know

They want to see the puppyGet up there in the ranks. Yeah, you know, and they don't want to see the big dog

Yeah, they don't want they want to see people get taken out. It's it's interesting. It's fun, you know

It's like it's why reality TV trainablesTrumps everything now you don't see likeThat many great shows popping off that are like written, you knowIt's mostly reality TV that's just like killing it. So yeah speaking to me now being a me into it like

As I'm sure you know I had that I had that video go up and itIt was like a huge learning experienceBut a lesson that I felt I had already learned before it happened becauseThat was in its simplest form a dispute just to dispute we could have a dispute you like red carsI like black carsYou can bring that to whatever politicsNo portion whenever the fuck you want you can bring it to we had a dispute about a situation between the two of us that

Was never communicated correctlyBy anyone except for I believe myself. So like I can give a quick minute on it

I'm glad Jack's here to have you have a say in it, but basicallyI had somebody who reached out to meIt actually goes crazy deep because it has to do with jack's business as well. So back in the day when I met jack

He owned a shop HP logic. He helped me build my first GTR

We he DM me like we were DMing and one dayI was like I'm gonna come to Florida just hang outWent to Florida jack picked us up at at the airport and like a 34 and a 33. Yeah, I think I think I think I picked up in dusty

He was 32 also. Okay. Yeah, so he rolls off to you know

Palm Beach or where before Lauderdale. Hey, it wasn't it was a four. Oh, yeah

First and he's got these two scolons which likeI had a 32, but you didn't really see 33sEffor you didn't see you didn't really see 32s ever so this Florida course right? Yeah, this is they were legal then

33 wasn't was a 20162017 2017. Yeah, so

I rolled you know jack rolls all picks us up. He's with his tech at the time

Which is this guy Roberto who now owns I mean do we say do we do it's fine to say what I don't careHe owns RAV performance. So he got his starts with jack and

um, you knowWhatever 10 years eight years nine years. Yeah nine years. You work there. God is like foundation

And so he was interested in the importing side of the business right so he cuz I see you this was I mean 2017There wasn't a ton of importers, you know, there was a couple and there was I think the umWhat's that company that went off the wall not ribs? What's that other one? Was that the Noah begin with M

My two mon to mon to it just done that crazy shit with like they sold like 34sBut didn't give them much. I don't really know allegedly. I gotta watch what I say. I don't really know the story

I don't remember it, butYou didn't get to see a lot of these cars, you know, and he rolls up in this 32 33 and Roberto's with them and whateverWe go back to jacks and we don't know these dudes, you know, we're just like let's see what the fuck happensCheck showing us stuff and he's got all these imports and I make a video about one of the imported cars to 32And uh it sells like thatLike it sold that night. The whole idea was, you know, we were gonna try and work together to

market cars that we were importing andMarket our services market the whole thing. It was gonna be a really great

Relationship where we have that ability to do that and I didn't at the time especially didn't want to own a shopI knew where my strength was and that was likeMarketing the marketing side right so I'm getting to people if jack owns a shop and he's got a tech and he's got a dyno all I got to do isFunnel people to the situation who have skylight whatever yeah and uhRoberto was big on the importing and he you know, he had he'd brought in one of his own carsSo they had had cars laying around which is cool to see, you know from shitty to good cars and like you didn't back then at 17

At 2017 I didn't I just didn't get that you didn't you didn't have that as prevalent as you do todaySo it was really like whoa, you know, you're like kind of like star struck on the scottlands. There was a 34 in a shop

I had multiple are 34s. Yeah, there was a and there was his fucking neighbor the tire guy had a 34 GTT

So you're like there. There's a GTT at our 35 like that dude had a bunch of shit and then all of his homies had like

Supras and and you know all kinds of stuff and we're like fuck I was shit like this was in ConnecticutI really liked going down there the vibe the vibes were there. They were what they were supposed to be where it's like

Just dudes rolling up to a shop using some of the resources but helping out taking out the garb. It was like it was a really cool vibe

You guys were ready to move downIt seemed like the easiest way toAccess we had a lot of resource to make it happen. Yeah, he's been doing it for so long and florida's a lot was a lot easier

Yeah, you could roll through with you knowLess than 25-year-old carsThey were literally state legal they weren't federally legal, but they were state and no one was coming into florida for themRight. If you had a car in Florida. It was a safe zone. You were safe, you know, so

So fast forward a little bit. I sold that car first video

Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, it's 40 45,000-dollar car whatever it was 35,000-dollar car

It's like wow and I didn't do it for any exchange but Roberto and Jack you went to me and like hey you sold that carI was like oh cool congrats. Yeah, well, we're gonna give you a halterack for your car. Oh shit

You know, and I'm like my car needs a halterack coolSo they gave me that and then that was basically likeEveryone kind of light bulb them was like oh you can do this and I can do this and we can work together andHere's how we'll split it and they were supposed to be like a profit split and everything was supposed to be goodJack didn't run that side. He's the tuner

He had like an accountant guy and then he had Roberto run in the importRoberto be up all night, you know watching the imports and stuff he knewAll the details and basically we were supposed to get cars at costAnd just because anything we had we're able to promote for your shop easierAnd then they're supposed sell cars we would get a commission or money off the next car whatever it was we were like pretty pretty openlike a year went by andI'd kept getting DMs where people like oh I bought that carAnd I'm like finding it fucking paid, but like I wasn't like to

Entitle that point I got entitled but I wasn't too entitled to that point. I was like oh

One day it got to like to really bad and I called Jack and like listen. I think something's going on

Well, I should I back up to the first nightYeah, I guess the first night where they're Jack Jack family lives close and they're like oh jack's like I'm gonna go visit my momLike whatever cool, so we're hanging out there and Roberto doesn't stop talking shit aboutNow I don't know these guys. It's like if you go in the other room in this to talk about this

This is mind blowing for me because this guy was literally his right hand me like a best friendEverything all wrapped into one, you know, he'd been basically eaten in my space for the pastSix years whatever seven years just just there all the time, you know, we're we're pretty tight crewWe know pretty much everything about each otherThere is to know there is to know and I was and myIssues is I can't II have to fucking tell him that I don't care. Well, you know, I mean I'm the guy that's like oh your girl's

Right, I don't give a fuck and this this is a stranger. I'm a stranger. I don't even know. I have yeah

We go for a trip that night and I'm like just so you know you got a fucking snake in your shopJust like that. He's like what do you mean? I'm like I was there. I was shot. I was shot. He was talking shit

said it in front of another guy and so that was like myvibeMoving forward was just like this dude the snake right if if I met you two together in the moment you walked outHe started talking shitThere would never be a moment I could trust him never because like IMet you two together this is it's like that's it. Yeah, so I'm like yeah, that's weird

So special type of guy to start doing that yeah, and I tell him and I'm just like I have to tell you because I'm not gonna go home andBe the guy that's like right, you know, do you hear Roberto talking shit about you know like I don't want to like gossipI just told Jack whatever he did with that information coolRoberto stuck around Jack school with it. They worked out. I don't give a fuck so fast forward

selling cars getting DMs andFinally, I'm like this is fucking crazy. I'm I'm selling 30 cars and I'm not getting paid

In the long end now, you know, that would have converted to 30 grand usually getting like a thousand bucks a carYeah, it's good money. So it up Jack and he's like, I don't know like you know, what do you want to do?

I'm in the whole thing. I'm like watching but not really

Listening to every detail he played it perfect because he got didn't get involvedAs much as he could haveWhich allowed everyone to show their true colors because if Jack was on himHe may have been more sly in in shit. So I think I think it was handled perfectly at the time like looking back. So anyway, I

Be in the scumbag I am I say if you're ohHe's drinking he's drinking seltzer water. I'm gonna burp

If I said if you're if you bought a car from hb import. I'm gonna enter you in a giveaway

Oh, wow just a little giveaway. Yeah, I said hit me up with your pictures your vign date you bought it

I got like fucking 31 emails 29 31 is somewhere like that. I'm like

What the fuck?

So I like show up to this meaning, you know on the phone and I'm like listen. I'm like

This is what's going on? I

Submitted all to them. What do you want to do?

Me and Jack worked it out our wayRoberto tried to like claim there was no way to connect the sales like for instance one of the cars sold in Washington stateFor a place that's never marketed outside of FloridaLike most of the sales we had like this like emergency meetingAfter this and you know and he's like Roberto's like, you knowThere's no way he can connect these there's no way he can connect these if there's no proof that these that theseThat's his angle that was his angle it wasn't it wasn't okayI see how it's possible it was no there's no way he can prove it you would think he'd be like wow

We should have vetted these people or asked he claimed he did it doesn't matterThat was like the least of our worries at time, but so off of that giveawayThere's this gentleman that emails meAnd that's that's where I was going with that whole long been this guy goes heyI haven't bought a car from them, but if it enters me in the giveaway I'll buy one right now and I'm like I'm likeI literally I have the email so I literally said something along lines of like wellYou don't need to do that like it's not like a big deal and he's like noI've been talking to him about a GTR in an RX-7. I'm gonna pull the trigger

He pulls the trigger he gets the call you know buys the carwhatever soWe start talking and we start likebonding overDislike for Roberto because now he receives his car that actually wasn't even importedSo unknown to me because I wasn't fucking with Roberto and HP import at the timeThis car was like a trade-in for another car. It was a 32 GTR. Yeah, and Jack like didn't really know

The details or whateverSo the car shows up to him and Roberto sold him some package and it just within go the way he wanted to and we just start likeTalking shit about Roberto. Why not, you know, so this guy this guy Ian's like oh, you know

I still have all the text and it's fucking crazy this shitty talked and I was like a Jesus comebackYou know, whatever so fast forward he starts like telling me more personal things and he's like oh, I was in a I was in an accidentAnd I was watching your videos while I was in the hospital and I really want to like help you out or be a part of what you're doingI'm like, yeah, I don't really know like you know you're in Ohio you know, whatever whateverHe's like well, I want to give you I have this RX-7. I want to give it to you

Now I'm at 60,000 subs you give me an RX-7 you just handed me a fucking hundred thousand dollar bill right?

That's all you game. Yeah, like I have to build it. I have to stuff so I was like well, let me just

Take the car. I'll do some stuff with the car. We'll say the car's mine. I'll

Restore it manual swap it this that I'll do the work you can't you'll pay for the parts you pay for the laborI'll be able to get the content. I'll give you a discount on labor just kind of parts whatever we got to do

And we'll get this FD bill for you and then you have your your car that you wantSounds like a win-win realisticallyI was like how can we make this symbiotic you know and that was it. I was gonna get

That hundred thousand dollar billCovered where the only thing at the end I wouldn't have his own an FD which I already own one. I don't give a fuck

SoThat's how it starts and it was like oh, uh, you know, here's some money for the RX-7. Oh, I want this. I want that and it was kind of like

I started getting like a grocery list, you know like oh go grab me a gallon of milkBut it was more like get me a set of coilovers. Yeah, and he'd wire me money. I'd buy coilovers

Ship news house ship under me whatever we're doingWell, umHe kept changing his mind on the FD the buildAin't bought another one then he wanted me to buy an E36 then he bought an SRHe bought a bunch of shit. He bought a 350z that I was gonna buy and I picked up and then he didn't want to sell it to me

So all the mods I did do itHe ended up paying me for you know, there's a bunch of like weird deals that like you would do with your homie and not think twiceOf but now looking back. I'm like

I was just taking what was being given to me instead of thinking it through right like yeah if you said to meHey, I got through the Z. I want you to drive it a little bit and change things you think you kind of like refine this car

I would probably put us in some kind of contract. You know something you know at the time

I'm likeWell, what do I have to lose is still title this is name. Well driving around. I'll have a free car to drive around

I'll mod it and when he's ready to sell to me or when I do the FD work we could take it off the top like I was willing to barter becauseThese things made sense, you know, well because of the convolution of thatsituation over the course of six seven monthsThose like go get me this and and pick that upThey didn't make sense for either one of us right because I'm driving in New York City to pick up an E36 that likeHe wired me the money for the E36. I got gas. I got this. I got that in his mind. I'm getting content

It's not fucking content to pick up an E36 and leave it behind my shop for two years, you knowThat's a hassleBut but I could see from his perspective as because I get a lot of time and I got a call todayBasically asking for work in exchange for me being able to film itHe was right there. I got a call two day

someone saidYou guys could film this or do a podcast and do the work for me and I was just likeYeahI mean like we know what it cost but the people they seeAdam L. Z with a new gd3rs and tj with this stuff. Oh you must make 10 x what you have into each video

Yeah, they think that you're just making money hand over fist so to add a little extra project here and there doesn't reallyIt doesn't hurt it doesn't put a dent in your get your sponsors to do this stuff. It's like yeah

Oh, I'm gonna use that for me. What do you say he said? He said oh make an instructional out of it

It's something it was a crazy. It was crazy, but it happens, you know, and it happens way too often

And it's worse now that I have the shop because everyone thinks like she get a discount on their phone their carI'm like dude this this is aDocumentation for you if you go to sell your car and there's this video. I promise you the car is gonna

Be more desirable than if this video doesn't exist, right? You know, we're showing all the good in the bad, you know, so

Anyway, um, I thought this was all so mad. I could got really fucking messy, you know, I

Be picking something up and you'd be like, you know, let's say something was $1500. He sent two grand and be like go out to dinner with

Jeff or go do this or give jack a fucking hug for me, you know like yeahJust little things like why the hug? Yeah, you're a hug. You've never hugged me. I owe you a couple blocks

So like it just got really messy, you know as that situation absolutely could and there was zero countingFor my side I remember at the time being like the fuck do I need to keep track of this for he he's he's spending money like a fucking drugInsaler and I'mProviding these services and he's paying extra which in my head was almost like payment but at the same timeThen he would like lend me money or better yetI'll give you this money that you want for this take it off of this build bill and obviously I didn't want to shop

And I've partnered with him anythingFucking beautiful for me. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna have my tech chip away at that

It'll be done and I'll have this 35Z S 15 whatever the fuck for that labor. I don't need a

Chunk of change. I'd rather build this car over here before

Because as YouTube as you know like you got to be ahead of itYou can't you can't build this FD and then get the money for the S 15 and then go buy the S 15 and then start building it because nowYou're fucking four months behind, you know, so it all made senseUntil it didn't anymore and then like whatever one day I discovered he was disgruntled and I questioned himI was like what's what's the deal? We had a lot of conversation that obviously we don't need to get into it

Just like useless detailsBut at the end of all of our arguments or conversation whatever you want to call themWhich is 2019 which is when this went down?

We pretty much argued you know communicated for four months and then December 2019I saidI just need something in writing if you believe your own money, you knowWe're arguing on the phone. What about this? What about this? It's a fucking waste of time. We can do this all day

Put something in writing that says you owe me this for this this for this this for this so then I can goWell, what about this? What about and we can that's how we would chip away at this to say I have the text messages

They were they were presented2019 give me something in writing. I made sure I documented which is the best thing I ever did

2021 year. It was like a couple days

After or short of one year. I said

I don't even know if you're fucking alive. It was a covid. Let's do that complications from his injury like bad ones

I don't even know if you're alive. I haven't heard from you in a year and I wasn't trying to communicate with them

Without that piece of paper, right?

The we're just gonna argue it's a waste of my fucking time. I'm gonna give you pissed off

Then I'm gonna go film pissed off like it's not goodI'm gonna be pissed at my family. I'm pissed at my text. It's true. It's just gonna fuck my whole day up

So talk to me when you have that number and let me get pissed when you have that numberSo 2020 I said I'm another text. It's been a year. I haven't heard from you. How are you making out on that list or that that's

He's a paper must be long and so and then he calls me and he's likeOh, you know, whatever you can go back and forth and I'm like listenIt's so convoluted. Here's what I'll be willing to do

That silver car showed you I said I don't know if it's if you won't mean money if I owe you moneyBut I know a way we could solve this. I'll give away this car

With a giveaway and I will give you the money that the car gives away which I only have like15 grand into the car. Oh damn. So I was like and I didn't

I assumed there was someOverage but I also couldn't do that because I wasn't getting paid for any of this so in my mind the overagesWhatever the fuck I say it is. Mine you're also one thing that's gotta be said here like my my take on on him was that he was

Really trying to get exposure for his own YouTube channel that he wanted to create for sureSo he was he was really hitting upTommy and other youtubers like in live streams and everything always like shout my name. Here's here's 50 bucks

Yeah, he was this and I don't want to say in a derogatory way even though I don't care about him in his feelingsIt was an above average level of cloud hungry. Yeah

I would call ambitious you don't you know, it doesn't need to be a negative to chase cloudThey're there are correct ways to chase cloud. There's wrong ways to chase cloud

He was paying for it. He wanted me to shout out videos and he wanted me to shout out his Instagram

And I did and I think he was at like 11,000 subscribers beforeAny anything negative went down, you know, I did videos where I tagged him and I did this stuffI was supposed to which I never got paid for which as a youtuber whoDoesn't have a college degree. I'm not a doctor. I don't shit. I have my following. That's a rule at the time

That's the only value I hadSo I have to leverage that value as much as I can to not get paid for shoutouts that I would chargeLet's make him a number five grand four ten grand four to the level that they wereYou know dollar shave clubs paid me 3500 bucks for 15 second clipsYou know, yeah, so at 60 70 80 thousand subs like a dedicated video at the time probably5 10 grand right good money. Yeah good money and I did a couple times and whatever so

So when I made that agreementI was just like I want this person out of my hair. I think this will profit to a good amount

I could tell you and I could tell your podcast. I was I was doing you know about a hundred K profit a giveaway at the time

soThere's a chance he would have received a hundred K or more that car was really special on the channelAnd he said no you won't promote it. He said some stupid channel. My god doesn't benefit me

I'm not like the fail. I was like, but okay. Give me something and writing that was it just see you last time

We really spoke about that matter was 2020He'd call me about like his FD headlights not working which I didn't touch his headlights like little stuff like that and thenumThe night before the video went up I was inRunic shop in the phone rang and it was him and I was like the fuck he called me and I knew it run. Nick had talked to him a little bit

And I was like, you know, why is he calling me? I don't know whatever. I was I was helping running to something

I was walking out the door to go to dinner with my family. It was like six or something

So I didn't answer the phoneWhich I told you I always answer the phone. Yeah, I remember remember

Ian's also in like, you know, he's talking to everybody. Yeah, you know, there's not like he was only talking about Tommy

Yeah, he was talking I mean, Rodnic had gone down there a couple timesHe was trying to get clout from everyone. Yeah, yeah, I mean

A fucking two weeks before the video went up running bought a turbo kit from me that Ian paid forWowYou know so so to go direct to the running thing like running got a 240 for me and for freeYeah, okay, God mess 15 engine that I picked up in New York City for freeI ate that was when he had talked to me like in between that. Oh give running that S 15 engine

You sure? Yeah, okay. Here you go. Rodnic. I don't give a fuck right it was Ian's I'd still had it fucking three years later

four years later gave it to RodnicSo IFind out so anyway, he calls. I don't answer. I go to dinner. I get home. I'm stoned and bad

I get a text. What are you doing from him?

I'm like, I'm that it's not a clock. I don't know where this is going. I'll call I'll talk to him while

That was my thought process. I don't need to be in bed with my girlfriend

I'm stoned and I need to get a phone with this dude right now. I'm gonna talk about God knows what like that's not the vibe

at nine o'clock a night so I don't do it next day at noon video goes liveI grabbed my phonefreak out like what the fuck is going on text him a bunch no response go over to RodnicYou knew this was coming running with guilty as hell and I filmed him the smartest thing I did I took on my phoneI filmed what I saidWhere'd you get the money for the turbo kit? He goes Ian. I said, why did another man buy a turbo kit for you?

I don't know well how much was a turbo kit four grand how much did he insane you?

$4400 dude it was my story to the fucking tea. It was this it's the same fucking story that's his game and I'm like go

Why if I owe this person 180 grand why would they give you money to give to me?

If I owed you moneyAnd something like that went on you just call him and go hey give him that fucking turbo kit right you owe me moneyThat's so true. I don't know the money gave me the money

Whatever not not evidence of my innocence, but definitely not evidence of my guiltYou know what I mean like that's fucking weird rightSo I start dealing with that that whole thing and come to find out now what what basically and then I'm gonna say allegedly a lotAllegedly there was a meeting of the mines these people tried toDestroy me. This was a this was a count. This was an attack in the first video Ian's wearing a raft performance shirt

Which connects back to him. Connect back to him. I'm a weird guy. I get dragged into it here. Oh, yeah jackets dragged in

Rodnik stops talking to Jack because Jack's tight with meWhen Jack didn't do anything and run next stop talking it didn't stop talking to Adam or Jimmy or anyone else just JackHe gave me an ultimatum. Yeah, I have it in text pretty much

If you are gonna continue dealing with Tommy I can no longerDo any business so now think of this 4,000 archerbocket no exchange of servicesWhat could that possibly before what did he pay him for right? Well, right 4,400 bucks is not just a few bucks. He paid him

To be on a side right this is there's more where this comes from if you continue this he told meHe told me Ian told me I told Chris anything over X number of dollars that he was able to get we were able to get back from youI would invest in Rodnik. So there's like a bounty on my head

It was it was interestTo do everything he did so I find out Rodnik knew they used to have five-way phone calls with a couple of fucking shady peopleIf five-way phone calls yeah, that's it told me all the speculationThat they were pretty oh put this here in the video don't put that here's the thumbnailRoberto was a part of it like the whole thing and now I'm just like two Shay, you knowYou got you guys you guys did good the video got 330,000 views hurt my reputation andCald you obviously dude if I if I'm yeah, I'm like it was more

So the bad part was Ian had recorded per private phone calls and posted themWhich is illegal in my statebutI don't have any insecurity towards what I said on the phone callsUm, but they were taken into context big time so I said in one of them the one that's like famous wasRodnik's 20% was whatever the fuck I say it is we were gonna make a movie and he was gonna do X amount of work to get his 20%

If he didn't do his X amount of work, he wasn't gonna get 20% that's basically what I was saying the concern on the phone wasWell, what if Chris doesn't do it and they the concern the current concern wasn't even your concernThere wasn't my concern. That was what he was trying to convey

Ian was like what if Chris doesn't promote it what if Chris does a bad job what if because well his 20% of the fuck I say it isIf he doesn't do what he's supposed to he's not gonna get 20% right makes senseI'll take care of it, but it sounded like I was saying I'm gonna tell him what 20% is and or not gonna tell him what 20% is and make up my own 20%Did he end up getting more anyway? Yeah, which is fine. I didn't want him to know what numbers are because

I always would dad him right I'd be like well you didn't do it you're supposed to you're getting 10% and I'd give him 20%I see so and that's what I did I said I gotta you gotta tell the horn button story sometimes. Yeah, I will tell the horn

So so I was like yeah, I'llI gave him 24% of the profits told him it was not tip 20 didn't tell him the percentage he was pissedBut I was trying to teach him a lesson do what you're fucking supposed I gave you five tasks you did twoYou know like yeah, but I still gave him the 20% unknown to him. He would never know this. I don't care if I can prove it

I've had to prove it in legal ways. So I was able to do that but um

No insecurity about any of that shit, but anywayIt's all over now. It's been resolved. You know, notice there's no videos

You'll notice the other party's no longer speaking about it. Yeah

Take away from whatever you want. I I didn't know I'm a hundred any grand

I said it from the beginning. I didn't pay him a hundred any grand or anything even close to that and at the end of the day

it was a disputeThat got turned into a scandal that really could have just been solved so much easier for everyone had it beenHad it gone through the proper channels like I was telling you a colapo, right? You know, I mean there there is due process

You're not supposed to just go slander to fame people on the internetwithoutWorking all that out, you know, yeah in 2025 that's it's so quick for people to just jump on the internet and try to slander somebodyWhen in real that reality if you had gone the legal routeWell, you would have probably gotten shut down and that's why he didn't want to do that to show receipts or orHe could have given me the thing in writingLike I asked for and we could have arrived somewhere without attorneys

The whole time we're I'm burning attorney money to do something that I could do over the phone very easilyYeah, my attorney was just on the phone getting paid. He wasn't put giving input. He was on mute. He had to be there his attorney had to be there

Pretty sure attorneys made the most money attorneys made all the best and they always do it's crazyYeah, so that attorney I remember what's he's a gangster. He's a defamation attorney

He's the best he's dealing with clop Oh, no. Oh, okay. So he's on his case. He's gonna get cloppers car back

That's cool. That's good to hear because that guy's cool as that's gonna be really good

That's I've got a whole video filmed from clopper from two years ago. I've got this whole fucking thing documented

Oh wow that video will be cool and I I like helpingSkyline people out in situations like I like helping anyone out in any situationBut that's gonna be a fun one not for cloppo, but for everyone else. Yeah

Because it's juicy. He was wronged pretty hard

Super hard. Yeah, so so all that stuff's behind us

We no longer have that black cloud the videos are deleted 330,000 people saw him and now my task is going andknocking on every 330,000 people's door and saying hey all that stuff you heard6% of it was true. Yeah

10% of it was semi-true and twisted and the other rest is fucking garbage made upconjured together toHurt me because these people thought it would elevate them. That's the only I can think I don't understand another reason to it

I I talk a lot of shitRobertoFemus leaders coming. Yeah, Roberto famously

uhTalk shit back to me about how I made my career off talking shitBut I've never defamed somebody right there's a difference. There's a huge difference

And what they did was defamation per se which is a different game. So

The other part of this lead elite learning process would beThere's defamation which is just saying something untrue in a malicious way and there's defamation per se which is saying untrue in a malicious wayThat is in it's not disputableif I call somebody athiefIt's defamation per se you I need to you need to be proven to be a thiefRight. Yeah, if I go around and say hey, this dude the fucking thief don't fuck with him

I'm hurting your reputation off something you've never been convicted of. It's complete lie

The biggest the craziest example that is if you call a girl whoreOh, that's defamation per se that's crazy and I even thought about it. Yeah, you call a girl whore

You're basically accusing her of having sex for money. It's defamation per se. It's a crime

Calling someone a pedophileIt's defamation per se you don't need to prove anything you need to proveThat I'm whatever you called me. I see yeah, it gets way spiced here normally in defamation

I need to prove your statements it wrong or a lie. That's a hard task to do. Oh from your side from my side

If it's defamation per se you need to prove that your statement's trueSo the yeah, and the crazy thing with civil stuff is it's not beyond a reasonable doubtIt's more than 50%So you know I like an accord if you're a criminal. It's like beyond a reasonable doubt. It's pretty much 100% everyone needs to agree

You're a criminal in civil suits. It's 51% oh wow

So you don't need to prove beyond a reasonable doubtYou just need to kind of have a good case. Yeah, which I I had a really good case because

I was able to pick apart everything said about me and like I said 90% of it was untrueYou know, whatever I said than the numbers thatI ever wants to do a podcast my attorney because he just wants to like he knows the case better than me. He's fucking amazing

Yeah, and he likes it like I'm passionate about skylines. He's passionate about

Sowing people, you knowHey, everybody's got this thing. No, it's fucking sick, you know, but

Anyway, it was a shitty two years, but it got usI would think each strength in the shop and you know, we got Andrew our business partner during that time and you knowForever grateful for all that situation. So while it was the hardest time my life to deal with

Because it was like everything I had worked for was taken like thatDamn. Yeah, and like I try to tell all these other youtubers like

You know be careful be careful get NDAs get contracts get this get thatAnd the internet is so funny with NDAs. They think it's some bad thing. You want a business. I don't know if anyone knows

Yeah, do you have NDAs and yeah, yeah, yeah like we're currently in the process ofselling like our whole corporation soIn that sense you have to have an NDA to even talk to us about anyPeriod and then if you want to know numbersThere's a stronger NDA that's gonna get signed to make sure that you're not gonna go tell Billy Bob over hereWhat our numbers and the reason being because you can like leverage people's numbers. Yeah, you know, it's like you go buy a car

And you go to two dealers and like well they said they do it for 13That's like the oldest thing so the internet. I think you're evil for having those. Yeah, so those NDAs the internet I mean

I don't I don't know who these people are to imagine the people who speak the loudest are like McDonald's employeesI don't know they never even seen one down and they think it's like a prenup which I also kind of agree with prenups by the waySo but I think I think NDAs they're there toProtect people in emotional times. Yeah, right? Because if you do something

Your piss off and you want to tell everyone your businessMaybe that NDA it's like a lock on a door like I can get in that doorBut that locks supposed to make me think and show intentIf at this point I caught that lock I obviously broke it. You know, it's the same thing with NDA you break that NDA

You knew it was there you fucking signed it and let's be honest. There's only reason you would break an NDA like that is to hurt someone

To be negative to do use it as a weapon. So if you don't plan to hurt someone you should have no problem signing that NDA

To say the thing with a prenup. Yeah, if you truly are gonna stay together forever

You're gonna be a prenup if you're not you should be cool with leaving what you fucking came with or what you'reThat's so true. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that makes sense and it's really just saying you're gonna keep shit to yourself

You're gonna be a big mouth. Yeah, not gonna be a scumbag

It's an anti scumbag clause in your fucking contract where you're not gonnaIntentionally fuck somebody over, you know, so I think NDAs are greatSo okay, so we're you're done you're done with that that guy in the past you have you're starting to climb back up the hillYou're getting you know yourYou may I don't want to say confidence, but obviously that brings you down when somebody takes you toIt may be uncomfortable on anyone else's channel. I was always still perfectly comfortable on my own

But if I was on Larry Chentra Adams there'd be those fuckingI don't know how what level of swearing I could do on the spot. There'd be those cock suckers

That would that would fucking try to jam up their videos. Yeah, and that made me like I don't know if the word sad makes sense

But it made me likeSad for those people because I was like they don'tI felt super uncomfortable bringing that negativity to them people were people were trying to convictEveryone for association. Yeah, so you're almost feel like a burden because now these comments are coming

Personally me personally like you know, I have no problemCalling it as it is if I saw a problem if I saw aIssue I'd be like okay, well, that's an issue and we have a relationship where he could say that and I'd be like and I wouldn't just go jackShut the fuck up right?

Think about it. You know, I mean take it in take it in if Jack's coming to me with that

Maybe I did do something right exactly and and and people were coming to me and they're like you're a scumbag for supporting TommyYou're you're terrible and I know we're not we're not gonna go to your shop anymoreYou're basically they were trying to cancel meBy so just because I was standing behind him because I knew the truth and I knew thoseConversations, but I don't know him with Larry or Adam or her or any of those peopleSo I'm like well if Jack's getting those Adams getting him TJ's getting him all these other people are getting him that fucking sucks

I wouldn't want to fuck with me eitherif that luckilyTheir decent friends and I'm not saying that in a negative way like luckily their differenceThey really didn't give a fuck you know for the majority of it like Adam was a littleYou knowDistant in the beginning just because just in his YouTube channel not like personally. I called Adam the day it happened

You know, but likeTJ was really cool everyone was really cool andThe people that weren't I knew who they fucked with and where their loyalty was but but yeahSo so I got out of that I was I was uncomfortable in people's videos, but I knew I had toNot crawl into a hole and die, right, you know because that ends everyone wins they get what they wantedThat doesn't fix anything. So

we just I justDoug you know dog dog deeper and just kept going with this place kind of put my focus on this and set a YouTube kind of took a distanceYou know distance myself a little from YouTube. I know if you've seen the videos of slow down quite it quite a

Yeah, that was a question. So that's directly related because you had the opportunity

It wasn't it wasn't it was relatedMy channel was unaffected I lost some subs 15,000 subs or whatever rightBut my channel was unaffected and if it was affected I could delete a comment I could I could pull right you know, but it was moreI don't want to focus on it takes up all your time and takes all your moneySo if I'm not making too much for mad rev and I'm not out there doing stuff a layering doing elseI don't really want to put 500k into my channel this year. I'd rather just put the money in my pocket and work on my shop

Right like yeah, and all those like fans that you think or loyalI don't say all of them a good a good number or what I perceived as a good never turned on me quicklyRight, you know, you see if you get 50,000 views and then you see this video get 330 which I don'tWhat the fuck so on on and then you see the comments 2000 comments and it's like okayUhI some of these people I thought were fans. There was giveaway winners trying to talk shit like just trying to talk shit

Not even really doing a good job. Oh, he uh, he did this and he the car took three days to get delivered and set a two

You know like it was just like how can I fit myself into this and uh this guy cut me at dairy queenYeah, yeah, I saw one I was like, you knowWas that Adam L's ease and I I was filming and I was in an area that no one was supposed to be in and Tommy got to me and said who the fuck are you and a I never fucking happenedHe just wanted to get it in. I was like they're literally writing fan fiction. Yeah, yeah, which is fun to read but

So anyway, I step back from YouTube because it costs a lot of moneyWhile the marketing is great for the shopIt would cost me too much money to not get the return that I was getting giveaways got hurt very badly which wasMy main source of spending extra doing good giveawaysBeing able to do good giveawaysCost a lot of money, you know, soAnyway, I I killed a revenue stream quite a bit step back folks on the shop and now the shop has a foot function machine shop

A dyno the restoration shop the paint job likeWe're now fully fully operational and I probably wouldn't have been able to do all that and plan it allwithout stepping back from YouTubeSo it's kind of like a a good double edged sword, you know the machine shop people take years to set them upWe set the thing up with like three or four months. Yeah, it was he was saying earlier

It was like it was like next day, you know, and you had you have a really good guy working in there as wellNot just trying to figure it out. We have two good guys JP and Travis Travis is like the muscle. He does the bottom ends. He's really

experiencedJP's more like book smartHe's experienced as well, but he knowsMore technical information. They have complimentary skills. Yeah, they really do compliment each other a lot

They bought heads, but they they call them in each other they compliment each other a lotTravis is the hammer JP's the more the scalpel, you know, and they're good in there andThen we got the guys in the restoration shop. We got paint, you know, we got all that so basically we can do everything

To your full service at this point. Yeah, so somebody can bring a completely stock maybe a little bit of rust car here

Come back when it's ready and it's fully restored. I would I don't ever want to compare myself to anyone in that way quality any of that stuff

We do whatBill by legends doesExcept we do it all instead of bill by legends is more like a what I've understood as like a curator. Yeah, so they're like hey

Come to us and we will be your point of contact and we'll get some profit in the processI'm bill by legends in my shop, you know, I mean you come to meI tell you all the things that mines would tell you or garage a sheet of would tell you andYou know and it's like it's like thatThey're almost like a general contractor exactly subbing it out and you're like the all-in-one guy so jack used to call me a wedding the wedding plannerThat's what I did. I tried to throw a sick wedding

But yeah, like that's what I like so it's like I now we've kind of gotten to the point where we're likeWash and repeating the same bill but it's because they work so fucking just like you pee garageYou went and saw those guys. We I talked to Doug and Eric Jack and I we talked to them daily

You know me and Eric talk all the time we brought weShipped Eric out to GT our festival because he wasn't gonna come, you know and super cool the guys super funHe gave you major props on that he said the same storyLike Tommy made me go down there show me the time of his life and said the same thing you guys are kind of sharing knowledge acrossYou'll call me be like if you had this happen on but and so this was a good one the other dayI saw his post about like r34 sitting in Japan. Did you see that yeah?

So he said like they're rusty in the cylinders right and he thinks from sitting and I'm like I thinkit's fromThe different metallurgy in the newer blocksHigher-iron content something like that. He's like I see I never fucking thought you know ladies are like that's the type of conversations

We have where he he's so sure cars sitting in Japan longer could and I'm like now there's got to be a more like technical reason for thisOr it could be switched you you can see that even in cars here. You can see where they've changed the metal like

Pop the hood and you can you notice like some cars have like flaky corrosion all over yeah, you know, and that's these are things are some processYeah, they're the same exact car in the same exact plant just a different differentConditions maybe in different different like aDifferent content in the metal. Yeah, so talking like that or if we have a tuning problem or if they have a tuning

It's just awesome to have like a homey shop. So we brought them out and it was so fun. I don't know how much you told you about GTR festival but

Eric and dog don't fuck around right they don't fuck around nowThey don't jump in their car and fuck around they get in the car to customer car. They you know they rev it out do all that stuff

So we're 10 deep driving through downtown DallasFucking making a bunch of cars making six to 800 or as powerHertz thereAdam like Adams my backseat live streaming while we're doing 120So real likeIt's a vibe and dogs like I've never done or Eric's like I've never done anything like thatYou know like you guys are fucking nuts. I'm like too. We got to use them

You know, and that was my big it. Did you go to your chair festival? No, you didn't get to make it you fucked up

Yeah, it was actually good. I saw it on my eye

Yeah, you gotta go this it was crazy because it wasn't just the showIt was the whole vibe wellThat's what like got me tight is I went out there. I brought my 33. I brought my crew. We brought all our cars

We were like preparing. I'm like okay. It's it's nighttime now. I can unpack my car and I hear to be part the second half of the event

Yeah, like this is where the shops get to go fucking prove it's the big dayIt's like it's like Texas to KAnd night they go out on Katie and they do these big big, you know street races and stuff right?

So that's what we were trying to do and weirdly enoughYou know everyone to get in there F250 and drive to their super eight motelNo, it was out. Yeah, go to Texas Roadhouse or whatever. No one was out. No one was out on the streets

Do we jump to our cars? We had our truck following us with 50 gallon drum and V85

Because Dallas was an hour from where we wereWe went to dinner with the money and yeah, we drove like over a hundred milesYeah, we drove over a hundred miles like beating the fuck out of our cars that we all we built them allThose are like what you live for those are like those memories like do you remember the first GTR festival we fucking killed itWe killed it and like I told uh and Hawkins because being Hawkins are tight even though he's a fucking Aussie fuckI was like yo, I want to handle the like after hour stuff and he's like it's yours. Yeah, cuz

I don't want to talk shit on the internet to another shop. I you know like

I've talked shit to Roberto since then so Roberto's now on the shop. He's my number one enemy. He's my what is that?

OP he's your up. He's my up. Yeah

He's my up. What does this stand for?

Oppositions. I thought so because someone was saying a pony nurse on the game is my opposition. Yeah, straight up

Fucking opposition saw as like where were you? He's talking shit in the GTR. Where the fuck were you at GTR festival?

You know we're end of the night. We'd all roll out fucking 10 deep

Everyone getting their tow truck and go go to bed, you know, soI like that. We showed out the way we did. I think we did it right. We were able to fucking

Do after hour stuff and that's what I want to see from this year if you if you went to if you went to the event like it was a drag race, right?

Yeah, and so you got a limited amount of performanceTesting or whatever you want it was just like going down the direction. Yeah

If you went out at night and followed all of our skylines you got to see these thingsHammer shooting flames. You know, I'm walking around every everybody. We're with a responsible group of fucking

Right assholes. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean experience the assholes. Yeah, the scary

Responsible but you get it ignorant. Yeah, the scariest thing is when you get the guy who's not responsible assholes

So that was I wasThinkful that our crew stayed good and stayed away from that ship, butIt was it was fucking awesome. Yeah, and you gotta go now you gotta go this year. Yeah bring your car

Gotta bring it. Yeah, for sure because after seeing that it's always like that the first year of like an event

First year is either a fucking dud or it's the biggest one and everyone's chasing it forever foreverYou know, I hope your two is the biggest one and everyone's chasing that foreverI don't think it could get much better. Now that it's a bad is one of the greatest events

In the way that like I guess that I just had fun, you knowI didn't care about really what went on between nine and five o'clock. It was like business

I got to talk to people people got to see the car in person. I got a lot of holy shit

The internet doesn't do it justice. You know like that type of shit. We swept the competition

You know, we swept the car show side of it. Yeah, I got best GTR Bay

We got best non GTR with the yellow car. We guess we got best non GTR Bay with the yellow car

Which we built that car for GTR festival just to relax. Yeah. Yeah. I'll show it to you after

Um, we got best 33Our buddy in our boot got best 34You know, we got like five or six out of the 12 awardsSo then you got flat though. Yeah, so yeah, so so we're in this GTR group on Facebook

And I was waiting because I was a judge of the car showBut I didn't pick my car for anything that's weird. That's that's yeah, that's lame

It's not like I'm oh my 33, you know what I mean?

But like at the same timeSome of the categories were actually hard to find a winner that I agreed with you know like we didn't agree on the best of showI didn't agreeBut per their parametersIt made sense. Yeah, so their parameters are

Is everything touched?

Is everything touched to a good level or a decent levelIs the does the car of like a five and are they a shop or a personEveryone would lean more towards people because if a shop wins that's what's unfortunate about us for shop winsYeah, well, they've got all the resources. They should have the best cars, you know, what?

It makes sense. Yeah, the car of that one I didn't agree with a couple things

But I had to like say like I did agree you know, it was like a juryWe all had to agree on everything when they said best 33 bay. I wasn't arguing right you know

But like at the same time, but you also didn't suggest other cars. I did you know, I was like well. This one was pretty good, you know, I liked that uh

II forget his in serum, but I liked his car. I liked a couple cars, but it was like

So I don't vote for mine. Here's my choice if mine wasn't here, you know or if I can't vote for mine

And I did that every time and they'd be like no yours or know this or know that umAnd we swapped it it was good for business, butWith that cloud of that nonsense the business does haveQuite an uphill battle every time we try to pitch some stuff and I'm just I just got a fuckingLet our work do the talking and settle like try to salesman anyone on anythingI don't need to prove to you. I didn't do that shit

I don't need to prove to you. I'm not a scam or whatever the fuck else was said. I don't need to do that

If you like the work you like the cars like to know brainer, you know like colapoYou saw colapo's car like that was a bone stock series three and it'sF**king sick. Yeah, it is it is for sure nice

Which is awesome because that guy's obviously been through the ringerSo for him to send his car over to you and have it come out. I don't want to say too much

But we're thinking of doing something for himI feel bad also doing something special for him because he got fucked by somebody else right but at the same timeIf I can do something cool for one of our customers who supported usHe's definitely in the top two who I would choose. Yeah, you know the many supporters

He's been patientHe listened to me when I said his first car was junkYou know like things like that and and I don't knowWhatever we can do for him. We're gonna try to know that's human stuff right like real stuff for sure

And so would you say because obviously you're I want to say yeahYou're like a brash type of guy when it comes to your opinion right and sure you could say talking shit is what got youNotice but having those standards. It's is kind of what's gotten you here, right?

That's what it is. It's not being brash or being an asshole or being fucking a loud mouth like that was never my intention

My biggest downfall and strength at the same time was likeI saw it as YouTube. I saw this my tube

So like my tube. Yeah, it's my tube

So like if if you're a fucking food critic and I see you stuff in your face with McDonald'sI don't really know if I can trust your judgmentIn that way so the idea with being brash or being you know being a shit talker was like I'm just telling you guys my standards in the way I know how toShowing you my standards in the way I know how to so that you can either vibe with me or not vibe with meI gave you all of me in what mattered which was cars

I don't want to tell you about my personal life. I'm like you know

I gave you all of me this sucks. This is cool black and white people know fs spec. I didn't come up with

fs spec was the viewersOh, that's fs spec that's how that's just started. Oh, that wasn't me. I never I never I didn't even think of that in term

You didn't point it for yourself. No, it was just and I was like the first ones are brought on by people who observe you

Yeah, yeah, and I look I'm also a group skateboarding. Yeah self promotion is very very frowned upon in you know in the standards

I think skateboarding gave me my carPieces because in skateboarding the standards you're laying a kick flip and you toe drags you're in a kick flip and it's uglyYou go do it again or you don't fucking put the content out if it doesn't look good. It's not worth doing you know, so

Those standard you know mall grab you know, I don't know if you fuck that's falseYou don't do those things, you know, and those are the standards the skateboarders havingEveryone sees it as bullying you know because I have a son now and I'm like telling him like don't fucking mall grab and it's like I don't careYou know, I'm like no you don't fucking mall grab you don't get on this long board. You know what I mean?

You don't you don't do these things. We push in manga. Yeah, don't we push in manga

But I'm for adoption no, but umYeah, those standards are like brought me toThe standards of the cars. I think it kind of makes sense

You know, I think if you don't hate shit, you can't love it. Yeah, you got to hate something to love the opposite

That's true if a lot of youtubers. I mean, I love to talk shit to dust and Williams everything's amazing

It's everything is a dreamThat's a dream. This is my dream mug. I'm drinking my dream seltzer

No, like and I get that clickbait at work, but like that actually is him. He'll walk in here. Oh, I love you know touch everything

And like he's like a fucking kid when it comes to that stuff. It is all amazing. He's not been jaded or ruined yet by people like me

Right, you know, like I don't know if you know the dust and story, but like I started my relationship with dust and talking shitWow, he would post like he got a 33 this is my favorite storySo he got a 33 and he had like a spat, you know like the stock spats. There's a fucking drywall screw through one of them holding on

Oh, he's filming. He's like oh, I got the spats and he gets close enough and I'm like

Then he's like fucking with the antenna. He's like oh, this thing's got an ox cord, you know like the ox antenna

Yeah, yeah, it's got an ox horn number. He's like Jesus

Post on Instagram like look at this fucking idiot like he called his exhaust jasmah, you knowSo one day I'm like somebody sends me his thing and he's like oh guys the 32 still isn't doneThis and that I'm likeI deal. I'm like dude. This is getting like sad. I can't even talk shit about you anymore

Because you won't you can't get your fucking car done. I was like bring it out here. We'll finish it

It's all I said down. He's like you serious. I was like yeah two days later. He showed up drove across country

We did his car in like four days andThis is this is a fun story soHe had a stock engine that someone had put adjustable cam gears onSo when we took his engine out of his carIt was like installed the cam gears run so things were installedBut he never had any headwork done no head gasket. We pulled his engine out to prep his bay

You know, we didn't paint it but like do his bay andWe had his head worked on we put the cans back and put the car together my tech at the timeDidn't think to check the four foot pounds or inch pounds of pressure you need on the cam gears screwsTo because it was a adjustable cam gear and they're pre-installed. They're pre-installed if they were in the box

They get checked, you know, so anyway goes the dyno and he blows it up on the dynoNow everyone's blaming me. So my first thing is like what the fuck I call I call Eric

Call Eric and Doug like hey, this will happen and likeWell, that's not your fault. I was like well apparently we left the cam gears was so so

Is it we do that all that happened to that's happened was before that all the timeSeven of us before you can't pull a car with that. He's like you can't pull a car with that unless

You start tuning for itAnd now this is our tuner so he can explain to you how you can tune for a swinging cam gearIf you if it swings one way and you make a bunch of conversations for thatAnd then it swings the other way now your five degrees in theDepending degrees in the opposite direction depending on on the the trigger system and everything you know on aFor the for the RB26 is the trigger system it has a a camsensor

Yeah, and that sensorTakes care of your ignition timing. It's not on the crank

So if your cam timing starts to waver because of the gearYour ignition timing is gonna be off now now a tunerThat can't get their desired ignition timing because it's moving would do whatWhat try to figure out well he would try to move if you okay, so if you're a lazy tuner and you're looking at thePower and you're like okay, I added two degrees and it'sResponding I don't add two more it's responding. I keep going and going and going and then that thing swings or

movesAnd adds another 15 or 20 without you knowing boom. Yeah, so but

While you're in the lower safer timingYou should be chasing which they wereMoving timing right you can tell it's moving right so you should be chasing that if it's timing isn't correctYou'll do timing and it'll do one thing one pull then you'll do it again and because it's one the other way now it makes powerAnd you're like what and I talked to Eric and he's like do that happen to usWe knew almost instantly what it was we got out we fix it the first time it happened a tuner should not have tunedThrough a swinging

Camg right should have been a red flag so the internet blames meIt's a couple people a couple of fucking people don't know what the time will play me that's fineIt wasn't our fault, but Dustin's car now ran and it hasn't run in two years whether we blew the motor or notAt least it ran right yeah, so I sold another engineFor cheap I had him ship his car back we put that engine in we took care of our work and thenDid we tune that one? I don't know I don't know tune it, but the car's still together. It's done track days

You can kind of get an idea like if we're habitually blowing motor's like it's like how is he still good DustinDoesn't have the highest automotive aptu love Dustin death man. He's not a technical guy. He's not in the shop fucking wrenching on shit knowing

He's abusive and he's a he's a track driver so that 32s when put through his bases. It's a stock engine

We didn't let build the engine we did timing belt water pump. We rebuilt ahead and sent him on his way so

He's good. We got Larry Chen's car on the road. No issues. Adams 32 gets hammered ran really good times at our stay

Like did you do his dads too? We did his dad's that's still rolling hurts engine hurts second engine

Um, her got crank walk so like you could grab his crankOh, so we just threw a stock one in there and let him go but we're doing it. We have a 28 form

TJ haunts cars another fun one. He money shifted someone someone so people try to blame me for that. Yeah, well obviously

The dude went one two one and I think his logs that he hit like 12 six. Oh, yeah

But like nothing was wrong. So here's that's a funny story that never really got out there. I don't even think TJ said it

He money shifted and the car started acting funnySo I was like wellYou're too far away. You just got the car back. I've got an hk's cray motor

We'll send you a cray motor put it in put all our shit on drop back in you're good to goYou don't have to worry about our our shotty machining through the internet. Yeah, you know, whatever

So he does that car still doesn't run rightYeah, so I call his tech who I had a little bit of a problem with because he's fucking got an egoYeah, and I'm like what's up with the car and he's likeHe starts talking shit about some wiring on a flex field sensor. I'm like Ian go figure's name's Ian

IanWe built that car in five days if like a flex field sensorPin is is loose or something just tighten up put it back in like this isn't a customer build that we took our time on likeWe bang this to fuck out to get TJ to grid life. We were here. Oh, okay, dude that that whole thing was crazy

So we were here we did it whatever flexual wiring or something was loose anywaycome to find outIan never told me or jackYou can see by the way you can see in TJ's video how good the car ran. Yeah, the car me to beat Adam

Oh, okay, we finished his carI taught TJ how to break boost and then he went and raised Adam and beat him drove it to the trackTo the to the street to the track. Yeah, yeah, they did like 20 hits he beat Adam every fucking time. Oh, I taught him how to break boost

On this road and then we went to sallies and they rate we stopped the whole highwayMe and great stop by that was in the turbo crane was in the m3 we stopped the highway these dudes ranOh, and our buddy came was way in front they did 10 times TJ kept beating them. Okay, man

So that's so so TJ money shifted in Cali whatever gets a cream motorSo while we're trying to solve this he puts a cream motor and the car still running like shitI'm like well guys told you it wasn't the engineD-sport tried to say it was some machining with the engine. I don't fucking know. I was like guys. It's not the engine. He money shifted

soThe car still running like exactly the same shit after the money shiftAnd he ends like well, I popped uh, I noticed twice that the main fuse was poppedAnd I'm like, why didn't you tell us this?

Come to find out there was it somewhere in the wiring and it was backfeeding the main fuse at the battery had poppedThe coils were getting what 38 volts or somethingOver supplied so what would happen was these coils would charge up with 38 volts and just wrap randomly firewhenever it wanted which come which they have it so so there's a atableThere's a there's a spec for the coil when the coils are charged a certain voltageThey can provide a certain amount of spark in a certain amount of time. I see so it effectively changes your timing

Yeah, change everything so it would literally just fire off whenever I wanted and the car would like to spotterThen it would run good and then it would come to find out what had happened was when he money shiftedThis is all theory but it's pretty good. He overspund the alternator which did something to the battery killed the cell in the battery

Oh, that's all it wasThey fucking put a new battery in car ran beautifulThey obviously still have some backfeeding issue because when the fuse was popped the car would still runOh, all right, but they had some backfeeding issue, but the the whole time it was a bad opt to my batteryWow, it's just a cell and that was creating the messed up voltage huge huge problemsAnd it was probably damage to right because I remember I mentioned something because I was like every single timeThat I would talk to him about trying to get the car going

They were jump jump starting the car. I'm like, what's wrong with this battery dude like

What are we doing? Put a tender issue. Yeah, I'll add battery

But it's just they didn't make any sense for that battery to go bad in the course of a week right rightIt was like that was a good battery here, and now all of a sudden they're I he's like oh wellMaybe we left the key on or something yeah every single time. I'm like dude. There's something wrong with this battery

They'd be driving around the jump pack in the back. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Been there. Yeah

We all have so so yeah, so TJ's now got a great motor. He's good to go. He's got our build the car's beautiful runs good

But he got it retuned by I don't even name who we got to retune by and the car is much slower than I want some news hereI see that's a bummerYeah, and it's because this tuner supposedly tuned safe and tuned soft andCalifornia tuningYeah, yeah, we don't like we don't like conservative. Yeah, we don't like it. It's because conservative is scared right if you're conservative

I don't likeDangerous. I don't tell there's been one time when I told Jack to go

It's on camera. We made 992 will 10

You know, so why don't like dangerous? I don't want my customer call me all the fucking thing blew up

Thanks a lot like I don't want that but I also don't want we're not building a car to hit boost later to fucking be less responsive to make less boostThan it can like I have a stock are we doing a stock RB 26 in my skyline making660 to the wheels like like if we're not doing that or kick that of itYeah, exactly it beat it up and so if we're not doing that with a two eight and all that crazy stuff on topWhat are we doing? Right? Yeah, yeah, you know like his car right now is maybe making

50 I would say on ethanol. I bet it's tuned down that much and I bet you was if you threw it on our dyno

I mean Bowman's made 680You know, so I bet you he's lost a hundred wheel because it's not safe and the tuners said they want to add some sensors orwhatever soAnyway, TJ is a happy customer. We talked to him all the time. He knows it wasn't us. He I think while it was going on

He I wouldn't sayHe wasn't he was neutralHe wasn't like I know it's how you guys, but he wasn't like it was definitely fucking you guys he was waiting to find outWell, he's getting info from his tech who I didn't get along with wellAnd he was getting info from me and I'm fucking 3000 miles away fighting his tech who's putting hands on stuffRight and still at the end of the day would he showed his ass when he said he kept popping that fuseI was like, dude, you need to tell us stuff like that. It's like oh well. I just throw a new fuse in it

I'm like it's like some crazyThat's not normal like 75 am. Yeah, it's huge. It's huge. It's like main breaker. You got a main a major issue there

So anyway, so this car's goodNow I'm kind of bummed that the engine didn't get to see the light because I bet you that engine was probably fineThey took it apart looking for a problemD sport didn't and there was nothing that they could pinpoint was a problemYeah, he was he was even measuring the bore. Yeah, he measured the bore with a torque plate

Yeah, so like you know you understand torque plate. Yeah, so if you if you have this cell phone and you have holes in it

You measure it. It's good if it twists this

You're not gonna get an accurate measurement so you can't measure and you can't hold without torque plate because you wantSimulated thing flat. Yeah, you want a flat. So that's why it's so thick and heavy exactly

So he he said pictures of a measuring it without torque plate and we're likeMeasure, much useless that would those were those were good measurements without a torque plate. Yeah, yeah

They were they were correct. They were a little oval which is common which is correct

But that's why I love having Doug and Eric because I can go hey look at this not batum and EricHe's measuring that without torque plate and I go exactly you know or this tuner blokeDustin's car with it with a can you know, whatever any wellWe would have discovered that in five degrees camp all your engine, you knowJust shit like that is it's nice to be able to bounce off those guys and they have the same thing from usYou know, yeah having that reliable like industry connection. That's not competition. Yeah, yeah, which I prefer

It depends on the people I'm enemies with everyone. I'm supposed to be enemies and I'm friends with everyone

I'm supposed to be friends with that's how I think of it anyway me know if I didn't like Doug or EricThey would easily be compartmentalized into people that I talked shit about and you would know and they knowYou would know but I thinkEvery anyone the moment you're you're unteachable you become uselessYou know like I'm still always trying to get him to do you know I learned everythingYou know my text I'm like, you know if you're fighting with your girlfriend stay the fuck home, right?

Yeah, cuz you're gonna be useless. You're gonna be useless, you know, so I don't know I like I like where we're at I would like

moreI'd like to do more I'd like people with I don't want to say higher budgetsWe don't make any more money whether you spend 500k here or 50k here pretty much right, you know like soWe're doing the same amount of laborIt's just you're either of cooler parts or more basic parts or you need more parts you need less partsI would love moreHigher budgets, right?

So what we're moving towards right now, which I'm really excited about I don't know if you saw the K and 6 car on the other side of the parking lotYeah, yeah, I want to do a turnkey carSo I don't want to have a customer bring me a car and maybe out there fuckingOkay, yeah, hi, sorry your brakes are not done or I'd rather build a car put someI don't want to say absurd price on it, you know put some reasonable price, but still cheaper than dollar competitionBut it's actually fast, you know like not to talk shit about my legends at all love everything they're doing

We my business partner has one coming yeah, I cannot wait to compare it to what we do what I like andYou know power levels it's gonna go right under mainline right off the truck. It's gonna go on the dyno

I'm gonna race it. I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I get to do with it

Yeah to see where it falls and kind of give more education because right now there's aReally quietEnergy around those cars no one's what when the fuck have you seen one move?

Yeah, I mean so we did get to hang out with the white and the blue one at Fuji the year before you came sure andSo we did get to see him drive him, but they're not driving driving. No, no

No, right?

They're they they're given so much sympathy for being so holy. Yes, so yeah, and they are balanced cars

Right that's mine's thing and it definitely sounds like you're unsheathing a sword when you start itYou know, I mean it's it's a crazy sounding machine, butDid we get to see it at its true performance? So what I want to see is GTR festival that had next to me on the highway

Yeah, yeah, that would be a skyline if it's parkedLet's see the whole comparison. Let's see it. You know, but but we'll get to with luckily Andrew bought one

He's got that yellow one that they've been building. Oh, that's it. Yeah, so

We'll get to see and once again not talking shit. I know it's gonna be soft. Yeah, right the Japanese and we got we got another special

They're coming to yeah, we got that zero are coming here. Oh, yeah, that was that was your festival. Oh really? Yeah, that will be

Driving the street to GTR festivalWhich is was really cool about Andrew and he literally takes deliveryPut you guys right out on the track. Yeah

Well, that was the plan was just like let's just have it at FujiWe stayed an extra three days. Let's have it at Fuji and like we didn't go for any lap records like that was our first drive in it

Which kind of sucked because it's intimidating to get out on a Fuji the first time and like in this carYou don't know anything about and like to be fair. I don't trust anyone building a car

So I'm like what's left loose or what's what's leaking or whatever? That's not a fresh bill

No, I went with the technical factory a couple days before we found a couple leaks that they fixed like one of the brake linesWe're leaking, you know just oh no from sitting here whatever and like that shows up the track that could be catastrophicSo and we only had those three sessions or whateverSo it was like literally me pulling out on the street with a fresh build here and driving to two to two to two to have an eternal roundWhich is what I always do a quarter mile down the roadThat's how I felt driving that car on Fuji. It was just like watch your gauges like you're not going for a line

You're not going for a speed. Luckily

So I called they drive the Raybinds met us. Yeah, it was like what do you want me to do and he's like

Go down the front straight hard as you can soLike click six in that car, you know like down the front straightI think I hit like 170 or twosorry to40k or something like that. I forgot what it was, but it's not camera moving

Yeah, I have the video I was behind you. Oh, yeah, yeah, and so like we turned that that last corner

But before the straight and I was like I'm keeping up with the friggin zero R dude and like that thing was goneLike I wasDude the first time I get in I go down the straight, you know, Pidx it take the first quarter and I'm like wellLet's just see because it's why it's why that's one thing that I didn't realize about that trackIt's fucking 40 feet wide. I'm like well

Here's like a little opening a little turn that goes down like I can see everythingLet's see what this thing does and second gear I just hit it and it's likeI'm like this thing I got a test controller hit it ice cold tires. It was January and fucking yeah

Mount Fuji. It was probably 20 degrees that day. Yeah, so after a couple lapsing out better

But yeah, that that cars it's it's your quintessential Japanese built very laggyveryUnexciting until it's exciting, you know, which which is fun to drive that sometimes and sometimes fun to drive that response shit, you knowI think I think these theseUberUltra builds or whatever you want to call them. It's like meeting your hero right because you have this image of such a perfect

Machine. Yeah, it's it's the ultimate experience and when you meet him you kind of find some shortfalls

Yeah, I know that I'm super criticalIn not like a looking for problems, but my brain can't not see him right I go look under your stock F.O.

5 engine bay and be like why didn't just put this connector over here like I'll just do that and that's hereThat's what he brings to the cars being built here, right? So that now how many times I've like on a on a swap car

I've made them change a throttle cable like the same car change a throttle cable. That's too long. That's too short

That's right. We're you know until we found like oh the S13 with the CA is the best throttle

You know what I mean like that's the type of shit that the customers don't get to see they don't really get billed on but it goes everywheretoo it's not just the mechanical stuff he'll come to me with a tuning inquisition and be like you knowI want the car to feel this way and he'll make it so I you knowI'll do what I need to do until he's going yep that's it to go out on the street and I'll be like I feel something right thereYou know like I personally in jackal be like oh yeah something right in that right where I said it you knowYou like that's like we've become so in tune to the car where I can hop in anyone's skyline and pretty much

Give it a bill of health just off of the negatives the positives the the power delivery when it is where it is and that's one thing that like I thinkMe and Eric like are very similar one Eric's really good at that too you know when we went in my 33 thoughI could tell he had not a fucking thing to sayThere was this light we did this one two three that I like this that was really my first drive with three literWas she too fast while we're getting towards the end he was driving with our buddy Mark and a couple other people in this night

He drove me and I did this one two three where the car felt like a fucking CVTPerfect and we after we both Logan each other actually we race Adam sedan that's what it wasI'm trying this car. Yeah, yeah ran in ran did it run 9's no hit like 10 oh I think it's a nine second car

It's a nice thing. Yeah, and we were like this

Do do do like and I hit that one two three fucking beautifully in air because he wasn't going anywhereYou know like it was one of those yeah, but all those situations now now greatIf I lined up next Adam 10 times he would have killed me on the quarter mile, but it was just likeWe were right where we needed to be on the streetIt was like perfect conditions for my car and it just it just worked, you know, yeah, but huge smile on your faceJust like just like thisSo would you call your like what you've been describing would you call that attention to detail would you call that OCD?

I don't like like people self diagnosing themselves of autism and OCD and all types ofHe's got it. I've got I've got a auto me auto immune diseases

You know, I don't like any of that shit, but I would say it is really just stemmed from my heatIt's just don't sleep on hate. That's what I say. I see things

I can't see too much when I like something if it's perfectIt's so hard to explain if you pop your hood and I don't say somethingIt's probably good you're good. Yeah, if you pop your hood

My eyes to gravitate towards every negative and it's like a it's like a trigger. It's it's not a conscious like

You know like these wires have been driving me nuts since we sat downYou know, I mean like if I said said this allThe wire to be these would be on there. Yeah, I think this would be different

You know, but it's also not compulsive because I don't give a fuck like I do but I don't I don't feel the need like Matt MormonHe's got OCD. I don't know if you know he is now. He's obsessed garage. Oh, so he's got OCD like

He would stop the podcast and fix this possibly, you knowIt's not me and Matt but is it step on a crack? Yeah, well, I don't yeah me and Matt vibe really well because I think I have control over whatever he

Is dealing with because he doesn't you know he can't drive his car more than four miles or he gets like freaked out and has to clean itNo, I said get out as the can't drive like feels I don't know if it's like it's not a claustrophobic thingBut it's like something mentally just doesn't like long tripsHe scared of crashing scared of someone hitting him like okay freaking out about all type stuff. So I think like I

Been able to control what he can't you know, and that's why we vibe but I vibe with like all the like people that are totally different from meYou know like I'd love to go take a fuckingTor of singer with as a dude. Yeah, I would love to do that

That's the beauty of this industry is there's so many different flavors to do the same cookYeah, like you look at all of these carsThey can be the same they they rolled off the the assembly line identical and where they end is so far away from each otherIt's so cool like and this is gonna sound like I'm bragging or shit talking. I visited garage or she to mm-hmm

I loved the family that really cool. Is it really just dude and his wife dude his wife is his son and his son

There's like another guy. It's like right helper or whatever, but it's them that's cool

And they have like a couple shops and I'm down in his main shop where Andrew's car is an Andrew has a millennium. J

They have a built by legends number oneAndrew does which is just like an OEM refresh. He has a millennium. J car that high miles

They put a brand new 24 you long block brand new from Nissan just like a freshen up, you know andI'm looking at the intake manifold and I'm seeing something I hate and now we have a fuckingTranslator and I'm trying not to offend these people, but I also I also want to tell themWhat he could do better because I've dealt with the issueSo I'm like, yeah, like get him over here to say this this way, you know, I'm likeSo what was was they did the plenum they've a reclass it it

I'm not saying I inventive air blessing. I didn't do that. I am I would say I'm one of the first people in the country to

Adopted and use it as much as I did I learned it in the UK. I

am very passionate about air blessing. I spent a long time. I didn't do it myself, but I spent a long time like

training people and checking their work and telling them to try different things or you know in the beginningI did do it. You're also mr. Zink. Yeah, yeah, the Zink stuff too

But so this this plenum it had this like I call it cheetah printing where it's an unevenIt's an uneven pattern because cast and all those highs and lows are reflecting light differentlySo if you were to take this and you were to wear glassesThis is flat you could hit at any angle and this is gonna be goodBut if you take all that like cratering material and you hit it like this you're only gonna hitThe highs and the lows you're you're gonna miss the sides. Yeah, so you have to do it a certain way and I was like

this cheetah printing isfrom youChanging your angle and your and your depth too muchCuz you're holding this thing and it's praying high pressure water and glass dust at an other thingIt's bouncing off the shield the windshield. You can't see anything the wipers going. It's a shitty process

But I mean those subframe straight there are very blasts. Those are 997

That's actually 996 ever and that's from oh fourLooks fucking brand new brand looks better than new. So what what it was is like you can't

Go over that surface and change your your height and you can't change you have to change your angleBut keep the same height. Yeah, so you have to one pass this way then you have to one pass this way

So you hit both of those like edges makes sense. You know, I like to give that information to garage your cheetah and

oneIt elevates their builds. Yeah, which I which I get to appreciate Andrew's cars one of them

I would hate to hit the car show up here and be likeAndrew the very the fucking plan on these be re-variable us is driving me nutsWe got to take the engine out cuz good luck getting an ismo plan them off and fucking carI don't want any of that and I and I want them to be able to fuckingDeliver a car where some freak like me isn't gonna notice it and say anything. Yeah

If I hated them and I saw that at a car showI can say these guys don't know how to wear a blast. I don't want that for them. No. I like them. I look up to them

So I told you know, I'm like then then after that that you tell they like opened up. I was scared. I was gonna offend them

Yeah, like you were going the wrong way the Japanese are differentYou know what I mean? You could offend them by sneezing on a Tuesday at the wrong time and the train car

You know like supposed to sneeze outside of the train car, you know, I got I got a talk into for eating while walking on the streetYou know that'll see. Yeah. I was eating McDonald's had a hash brown me and shot. They look at him like it's crazy

Yeah, the guys like and I'm like what's wrong? And he's like oh

Don't eat on their sidewalkI'm like and a sidewalk's cleanThey open up and like they're talking about dry splassingSo I show them the underside of my 32 and you know they ohGo away. She called his wife over and she goes in the train and ask the translator and translate like how long that take you

I was like oh this was like two hoursTells her she goes in English. He's lying. Yeah

Fucking show them a video of it just blowing the undercoating in the paint off the bottom showing the theE-code it was leaving the eco beautifully my car. Oh wow look fucking insane

It looked like it just got dipped in ecoAnd they're like no way no way so let me see your system now once again dry splassing bringing it into the JDM world like I did thatI don't care what anyone says. I did that

Scott ails I reached out to Scott ails in 2020Discovered that he was the only guy doing dry splassing on cars talk to him a bunch connected him and Matt MormonThey have a business together that they sell dry splassing systems like Scott calls me every dayHe's like dry cells. I'm giving you a piece of it. You know like that are they local they're in Florida. Okay, or landah

soI look at their whole system go through everything and we end up with the compressor and it's this huge compressor belt drivenI'm like how many horsepower and they're likeIt's like how big is the engine like seven and a half horsepower. I was like there's your problem

We have a 42 horsepower chiseled. Okay, the last

Place they installed that compressor was a 200,000 square foot Amazon fulfillment centerHugeIt's blowing air through a one inch air hoseIt rips and it will take you meet right off your fucking bone if I hit you with it with the big oneThe little one just hurts like a motherfucker the big one will just in the winner it heats the whole shopYeah, the compressor heats the whole shop in the winnerYeah, the machine shop use it all theSo what we have is we have an exhaust fan on the wall and then we have aBig-ass fan in the door and if it's cold outside we'll turn on the big fan. It's not outside. We turn on the exhaust

Close the doorSo it's cool and so you were able to shine light on the lack of compressor powerYeah, cuz I didn't know why there's didn't work they probably invested quite a bit of money into their blasterThe blasters themselves are usually 15 to 25 grand. Yeah, you need the air hose. You need an air dryer

We have a $12,000 air dryer because it's a desk and dryer like you know those packets you get yeahIt's full of thoseSo when the air past the room it takes all the it's the fastest way usually people use refrigerated onesBut as that gets too hot it gets more and more inefficient and we're running makes a huge compressor through itSo you need a desk and dryer. So our whole system was like about a hundred K

And I looked at that and I was like you need a bigger compressor and they're like all rightI was like you can rent like a diesel on a trailer and that's what you need and I'm sure at this point they've done itYeah, that's insane. That's a crazy system. This machine needs a trailer like if you don't have a

$50,000 Kaiser, you know, a little case or whatever it is. So it's these little things that they make a huge difference

Yeah, and product shows yeah, I'll show you like what's what we're done here, but it's it's cool andOnce again, I don't know ifSomeone he knows watch my video and fucking told him you guys should try a swassingYeah, it's the least I could do is be like if you did this because of my videoThis is where you went wrong or whatever, but at the same time like the engine the engine builder of mines knows who I amRight knocking on my son. Yeah, no, it's why I like I met him at

G-Tardi knew who the fuck I was like man that must be I dude. I I'm not trying to suck your dick

But that must feel really cool because that you look good. Yeah, or like oh, I know you and you're like you know me

I met him at top rank in 2021 and like we were introduced to the bill by legends guy and them and they were all likesuperYou could tell like they didn't tell me they knew me and then I said somethingAbout something that I did and he was like yeah, I know and then it was like oh, you know you are and then like and then the transI was like oh, he knows you are and I was that's fucking cool. Yeah, and the bill by legends, dude

It's like the the guys the curators know, you know, no why I'm they were asked ask actually asking me like how do you get all the youtubers cars?

How do you get to build all the youtubers cars? How do you get to build all the youtubers cars? We do it for free

Do it for free. Yeah, so like comp

Yeah, I mean not so much partsBut we do a labor for free. Yeah, I mean it makes sense. It's a it's a marketing trade well back in the day when I was a youtuber

And I didn't know about GTRs. He built my car for free, you know, and so I

knew what that did for his business and I knew what it does for other businessesI know my my reach and what it's done for other businesses andBasically, it was like we got to do this for free not because they deserve it, you know, but I mean they do a lot of them do theyYou shouldn't feel bad for any million dollar youtuber, you know, but at the same timeWhat Adam is pulling off and what TJ is pulling off and clearest fuck oh my gosh, I don't knowThey're sacrificing a lot of their actual life. Yeah, it looks like it looks like momentum now, right?

Like you see momentum things are just happening. It looks like it's happening easier and easier as they

Exactly, because I and maybe to a certain extent it is because they're getting more sponsorships more deals more opportunitiesBut it started with grindWhat what they don't know this happening is they're literallyTheir life is going so fast think about like the busiestExciting day you've ever had how fast that day went by yeah, you know, and like how much how many things you missedHave you ever just like gone to like you're in Japan you went through all day and you're like I didn't take a single picture

Like oh shit, I forgot the pissYou forget to eat whatever these dudes are you know away from kids and in the way for itThey're missingOnce all that drop the best thing to have was that drama like slowed me down to me realize like dudeYou would forget something and you would realize it two months later. Mm-hmm like dang oh I forgot to

Do that important thing that I was supposed to do also I forgot to send that ticket in that I got and now there's a warrant out for myYou know whatever like that shit happens because the days are just so packed so stressfulYour goal is a and everything else doesn't matter until you complete a and if something goes badOn your route to completionForget everything else you're not making it to dinner you're missing that flight whatever the fuck soCleetus has a really good team cleetus is really good. He's an efficient human

He's like the Elon Musk out say other car game the dude's just fucking on like I got to do the freedom 900 and ConnecticutThe New England 900It was fucking insaneI'm not saying I would have talked shit about his eventsI would have talked shit about the people out of the office completely honest with youBecause it's just like a red necky like yeah kind of like circus freak that's a kind of game stick but no, no fuck thatIt is so much more fun to watch and be a part of thenEven shit that I'm itch. I'm not I'm zero presented. Shouldn't anything that they're doing

The whole day everyone stokedThey're jumping many vans fucking six feet high and but there's a race involved like yeah, and by the way, you knowIt's not all smoke a mirror is either too because he's really good. Oh, he's fucking

Just yesterday top 10 that's car. Yeah. Yeah top 10. Yeah, so like that was a that was something that I went into I would say with like a

I didn't have too high of expectations and it was I was like I told clear so I'm like doing fucking terrifiedI was like I have never great race wheeled wheel. I've never driven a crown fake. I never watched NASCAR

You know, I'm racing against fucking Travis pastrada and all these people like bifle all of them is likeI don't want to take out a fan favorite. That's all that that was my only goal. You know, I take out clearest

I don't want to tell clearest. I don't want to take up strata. I don't want to take out Roman atwood. I don't want to take these people out

They're not thinking like that. They're like fuck everyone, you know, yeah, so

I I qualified 10thBecause I was buying this is how nice I was drivingI qualified behind clearest's brother and I didn't want to pass him in qualifyingI want to miss him. I read a faster time than him behind him

So I qualified higher and then they flipped the the the the the field. Oh, I see

So what they do is like the guy who qualified first gets last that makes senseI qualified 10th out of 20 peopleThat's very why I was pushing a good stuff. Yeah, right right in the middle

So we start going and like I'm like just drive clean find your line the tracks weird you think an oval trackThey're all the same. Yeah, there's like little weird nuances to average. Oh, well turn three and four

You know, there's one two three four turn three and four wider than one and two and this bank here is fucking likeClearest is getting all these things. He's driven the track for a day

You know, he's got all the secrets. He's negotiated with these people for however long to get the track time

And I'm like never driven a crown vick never isqualified dead center Jimmy's out there and I know Jimmy. I'm like, dude, let's just stick together

Well, gosh, brother's the fuck out of this by like lap four. I'm like where the fuck is Jimmy? I'm in like fourth place

Jimmy's nowhere to be found. I'm like all right like just put your head down and go and

I foundI just drove where I was comfortable not like listening to anyoneKind of not following anyone's lines and what I ended up finding was that I was likeGetting grip where people weren't so I'd be on the inside of the corner on one and two and I'd look up and people be like on the bankLike just fucking floating away and you don't have to slow it out as you start tracking out and I'm just peddled down on nitrous justAnd I'm like what the fuck is going to do it? I hit the night should every time I hit the corner

What the fuck is going up? I got yelled at because

I was dropping my inside wheel my left wheels in the dirt. That's how low on the bank

I was like to kumi fucking FujiwaraAnd I'm like kicking sand onto the track which is making people fucking fuck upSo there was a point where I was in like third second and third and it's meaning clearest and we're and like I can tell heI'm in second. He's in third and I see him start following my line

And I'm like he's on me, you know what I'm like okay, he's doing but what's so soI'm not saying he stole my line, but I think I helped him find it in lineBut what what what what was he was he hooking the corners on nitrous?

I don't know the lights didn't work. I'm telling you an nitrous the light's supposed to flash

No, I didn't know I got out. I'm like you know, did you guys see how much I was in I just like no, we had no idea

It didn't workAnd I was hitting funny places to try to make people laugh like plays you shouldn't be hitting it like corner entryLet's see what happenedBut you're dancing on this line of like understeer oversteer it's the craziest thing I've ever felt becauseYou're actually like griplessin between eachDance you know, I mean like all I'm understeering all I'm oversteering all I'm understeering and you but like for that momentYou're just you feel like you're like floatingBut I think that's like you're right at the limit of like breakaway

And you're just sitting there doing that every time you go in the corner. It's scary you every time you dive into that corner

You're like is it gonna give um? I'm thinking my right front tires bald because I'm driving so hard

So now you know me and clearest and Travis starts fucking working his way upAnd I'm like fuck like this dude's a psychopath each of them a plane with no parachuteI'm literally he can't do nothingSo I'm just trying to be really clean which made me look boring like I watch videos and like you just see me go through cornersLike not touching anyone not doing like a piece of furnitureYeah, and like Travis rolls up, but I basically just like just like go aheadI think battled him for a little bit. I got a picture of them. It was cool, but like

thenI'm getting a little comfortable. I'm like lap like 60

Going down the back straight and what I would do is I'd come out of the cornerI'd kind of stay low and then right before the cornerI'd kind of track out and then dip in because it must be really close to the wallYeah, I didn't like the feeling of being close to the wall because I didn't want someone to hit me and put me in the wallI don't trickle you pretty. Yeah, I thought I'd be safer away from it

But realistically if I got hit I would have ended up at the wall right head first probably yeahSo I'm fucking going and I go to do my move and I didn't my I was gonna say I didn't check my mirrorI didn't have a mirror someone had hit it my head was my face was bleedingSo I'm my fucking visor to open because hot as fuck in someone hit my mirror and it shattered glass into my faceSo I like cuts like all of my face like little I didn't even feel him. I didn't even know

But I look my mirror mirror. It's not there. You know, you're strapped in you can't see anything

And I thought I got pitman over it and I watched the clipHe's like this and I'm here and then I just went like this and hit himDude, he fucking hit me. I went nose into the wall

Swat and bees trying to correctI corrected in the process on clip my fucking seatbeltI'm saying they're like god fucking dying, you know, I'm like I straightened outI pull in because I don't really know the etiquette and the car seemed kind of fineBut pull in this dude got this fucking sledgehammer and he slam in the car and I'm likeIs it good? And he leans in the car like this and he goes run it till it falls off and I'm like oh my I don't want to do that

Now here going 80 miles an hour in a crown Vic like with psychopathsBut I was all fucking hopped up on adrenaline. So I get back out there. I start like I pass Jimmy

Fuck you get past Jimmy get back to the center and there's a clip of me. I come out of turn

For turn turn for like to the straight and you see me come out and it's like straight on and then you just see myWheel like this and it fucking puts me in the wallSo hard like all the windows blow out of the fucking like I just like kind of come to stop get out in the middle of the trackJump the fence and just got back into the audience. They drag my car out and

DF PTSD. No, I want to do that. It's so bad again because I will be more of a like

Rubbins racing guy instead of so clean because I actually had a chance to be in the top fiveRight, you know, it's pretty decent. Yeah, it feels good

That's it felt good, you know, like people like there's some people that are kind of red-nicky that I know they were likeWhich I'd never expect to see me like so in the clichés you fucking kill you knowPushed in like dude that was sick. I never I didn't know what I was doing

But now that I kind of have a feel for it. I think I could I think I could do pretty good

But that's likeThat's the best stuff about YouTube right there. It's like being able I

What the fuck kind of crossover to clearest and I have you know, but he called me up was like come to this event do thisobviously he did itTo get more local people and but it made sense. He's in Connecticut. I mean connect it. Let's go, you know

Yeah, which which is smart in that sense and then you know, it's kind of like what you're saying what you knowYou you you didn't pay him to do this right and he didn't pay you but that crossover was the paymentIt was sick, you know, and at the end of the dayHe had somebody to fill a seat in this thing, but where I was going with that entirely too long story is likeYou could see how well he runs an event not that atoms are worse. Yeah, but atoms are simpler there. It's go out drift

Do your thing it run out like form in the D or whatever call today atom runs a great eventClearest was non stop that whole event was non stop there was a fucking line merch lineI'm not even jokingHad to be a quarter mile from his booth and that's like production value right like clearest is production value in the way that he does things are just soNext level, you know on those events, but I mean his videos are filmed on an iPhone. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah

And if you look I mean he he participates in so many disciplines. Yeah, it's not just one thing like there's a lot of people are just good

They're good at NASCAR stock car or whatever. They're good drag racing. Okay, whatever

He's a pilot. I know as a helicopter. It's a plane. He drag races. He's he's NASCAR. I mean

There's no there's no limitsAnd my favorite like clearest thing is likeAs much he plays just like redneck and stuff. He's had one of those cars

That was his favorite car and like when I got mine. I just get like this random text

And it's a picture it's from cleanness of just a speedo at 207Can't have one of thoseHe just sends me this like blurry picture or it says 207 on the wild holy fuck this day. You know like he's he's

That was a street car. He's like match this. I don't know if I'm allowed to like say this but I I'll just say it and he'll probably never see this hopefully

He had that car so he could drive to and from the shop and no one knew he ever had the carOh, wow, so he had a turbo on 997 turbo tinted darkest hellAnd he and it has on like math and shit and he would just drive a to and from a shop andWho would think leaders was in that fucking right, you know, and then when he got the 991 the white carI tax on you know, we he's into him, you know what I mean? So

That was cool to hear too that he had this like secret port, but what was funny is when he was trying to get the freedom factory selling everythingAnd that was for sale. He's like so on selling the

Porsche my buddies Porsche something. Yeah, where I was like oh, okay, that that is true

You know like I because I had heard it to the grave and he didn't tell me I have the secret carI just heard like that's what he drives home. Yeah, that's pretty wild. Do you watch any of his stuff?

Like before he got freedom factory. I watched a lot more. You know James. Yeah, Jackson

We're we've been talking since last year to build them an SR. He's a big 240 guy. Oh cool. Yeah

240 track. Yeah, he has that. He's got a street car. He's wife's got one like had these got like four two 40s or Sylvia's Sylvia 240

So I want to build them like a two two and do like our thing to his bay and just make like 400 doors power. Yeah

That's fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that'll be cool to do that, but so where does

Where does all this go from here right everybody's been watching you for eight years do your thing, you knowThey've seen you go through so many stages. Yeah, I mean

Once again, it's so surreal to like think about it where I started on YouTube to where I amAnd everyone's gonna say this like I watch Cleetus go from where he is to where he is. It's fucking amazing

I think it's cool when there is that progression progressionum from a creator that like if you're a diehard viewer you saw go from like nothing to a skyline restorationLike a crazy gimbal. Yeah, yeah, I don't know where it can go more now

We can't bring the shop to likeAnother level per se we're gonna where you're standing right now. It's gonna be torn down

From like a wall over there to here. This won't be here anymore. This will be a clear span clear building

Okay, that will be final assemblySo the idea will be to have the machine shop in a separate buildingOutside near like where our dumpsters are and then level this area push it all the way to the backHave a clear span 8,000 square feetHave what you saw as the shop beTear down bodywork dirty and shins outSend them over to the machine shop car gets painted and gets pushed over to the final assembly the clean roomExactly and then the first half because we only need 8,000 square feet the first 4,000 closest to the wall to the road will be like glass

It'll be a craft sports style. We'll have cars that can either be stored

Cars that can be for sale and we really want to move towards the turnkey cars because I'm gonna build a 33 that I think wouldrivalA built by legends 33 that'll make more power and be a little moreI don't know bill but like I would say in a bad way compared to mobile legendsBut also not because like the more the more you get away from OEMI guess you could say like the worst tickets. It's really hard to like ride that line because I don't hate those guys

So I everything I say I feel like I might come off as I'm talking shit. I'm not into a

400 wheel horsepower skylineIf anyone tells me that their cars make more than four to five hundred wheelI know for a fact it isn't true. I know the turbos are running. I know the booster running

I don't know what they claim. I've never seen it

I'm not interested in that. That was what I was interested in when jack first built my car

And I built a car that made 485 and it was funBut there's so much more left on the table, you know, and a two-way transforms the carSo much in a positive way with zero negatives. I've yet see a negative you take an EVO and you go from a two liter to a two-three

There's negatives you physically can't rev that more right you just can't you you what are they rev to a two-three seven seven thousand sixD-hundred. Yeah versus nine thousand versus nine, you know, we're two eights. We're revving them my three-liter

We wrote a nine thousand damn you know, so a while there's no reason toStreetcar to do a two six, you know, there's no reason to build a two six if you're gonna build one to get a fucking H.S.

Stoker because it's not that much. It's not a bunch. I would yeah. Yeah. Why wouldn't you?

Have you ever felt a two-way car? No, I'll tell you for a ride and I'll let you drive a two-way car today if you have time and

You'll feel it instantly. It's just a different everything's different and better and like I said, there's no negatives. So

Are the MB7s two eight? I think though bill by legends cars are all two a right? Yeah

My biggest issue with them if we need to talk shit, which I feel the need to say I'll out. I don't like the turbos they choose

Too small they're too bad. Oh, they're 20

They're 20 H60s to my understanding there. I believe they used to use H.S.

I would love clarification on this if anyone could I'd love to be educated. I just saw Andrew's

Engine because he sent me a picture of it and it has garrot 20 H60s on itWe've seen those turbos. They've been around forever. They're yeah, but but they're not 25 30s

They're not 25 30s. They're not tome t550b's. They're not a pexy

You know, there's so many better turbos. There's so many better turbos in those what though the negatives and the positives of those turbos

I'll wait each other so much that I would choose in it and one turbo or an R3 turbo over those and I had to go through this process to on my car becauseWhen I when I firstDestroyed my 25 30s two-stapping atAtMLZ's in PatationalDestroyed themLeft nothing wow and I had to trailer the car home and everythingAnd anyway to replace them, you know, I spoke with a bunch of people and they were all like oh, yeah, those are just 28 60sI'm like no, okay, that's what they're not those are -526 -9 -7 you hear all that stuff

HKS has a proprietary exhaustI sent the turbos toTo get rebuilt and theyAnalyzed everything and they're like these are not 28 60s. They're proprietary

They put together the turbo for me back that center cartridges were new using all the HKS stuff and it's goldso what they do what whatUmGarrett does right there in the business of make-a-money just like HKS they design a turboThey don't say this is an SR turbo. This is an RB turbo. They don't do that

They say this works for a two-liter to a 3.4 or something like that, right? Yeah, you've seen that yeah

So a 28 60 is probably a really cool SR 20 turbo probably makes 350 wheel or something one one of themYou put two together should make 700 probably will peak at 700 but what's weird about them is because they're made to spool a fourSo under they have a smaller exhaust housing there's a bunch of little negativesSo when you throw ethanol through them and you start cranking up you get this big jump of horsepower from stock to thisOn the first go. Well, you look also the one turbo is made for two liters, right? That's the real house for that

So when you go to two turbos you didn't go to four liters, right? You stay at two six or two eight right

You're still small but but we can we can combat thatPotentially, you know, you should be able to the problem with these is the exhaust side is so small because if they was any biggerIt wouldn't spool on the two literThat when you put two of them on a two sixYou get really good results until 24 psi. I see and then it falls off. So those turbos

Realistically, what will they make 600 wheel probably depends on our dyno probably you know fuel typeYeah, let's just say 600 on ethanolNo, not even probably 550 on ethanol maybe 650Where a 2530 will have the exact same beginning graph these will go like this and then fall off a 2530 will go like that keeps runningYou know and it there's no negatives underneath the curve. They don't choke. They don't choke. They don't do anything

And that turbos the 2060 might be really good for pump gas or or something like thatBut they're just not made forThey'll stay flat. They'll stay flat at 450 right they'll stay flat even at 500, but they go

Knows down. Yeah, when you push into the max and so 2530s on a 2.6

You don't feel like I at the bottom that's like yeah, that's what I'm in right now. I hate 2530s on two six. That's the jackass

They're on the street V cam helps V cam does apple punch. Yeah, but still we've done a V cam 2530 car or GT3 4R V cam car

Didn't need that point to just but that's where it goes from likeThis is okay to like this is nuts and if you get an inignia person or an experienced person in a car with too big of a turboIt is more dramaticSo they do think it's faster than a GTSS car, but the GTSS car will smokeThe pump gas 265 30 car, you know, it just got so much more meat where you need it. Yeah

So 282 530 or T 550 B is the is the mover right now?

GT3 4R is good with a 28, but I it needs the 1 oh outside from the Supra version and ethanol always helps tooRight, we just everything come 100 rupees. We just spoiled down here and have ethanol. No, we just buy it. Sonoco 85. Oh, oh, you're using like

Yeah, we've got like I said we have a like a GTR festival our fucking F 350 falls around everywhere with two drums in the bedWe stopped for dinner. They fill up the fucking car like our text come with us and

Yeah, they're working, but they're playing, you know, and they're filming or doing whatever they're fucking aroundUm, I would love to get like a stage here with like put like aTrunk like you know those bed mounted tanksThrow in the back make like a fast-dating so the Texan mob with us and then like that would be saying you know pull upBut um it works with the F 350, but uhYeah, I mean like I said we'll go for right in the 33 it makes 801 610 torque the reason it's making the shitty torque is the hot sideUh, it's not shitty, but the reason it's making the low torque is the hot side. I think I'll show you the difference with the turbos too

The the three liters are totally different animal. That's like in a man

It's and everyone's oh you got an RB 30 and I had to always correct him. I say it's a three-liter 2 6

You know because it's not an RB 30 it's a 26 bar. Yeah, but at the same time

If you gave me the option of a 3.2 liter RB 30 or three-liter RB 26 I'm taking the 26 I get none of the negatives

I don't know about taller deck. I had all the weird timing belt and tensioners and all that fuckery and then I get the

Rotating assembly is so good. Yeah, so good. I mean it's good and it revs in 9,000

Right. It's great and it's a great motor and that's the other thing I try to tell people and if anyone takes anything from this podcast besides that I like to talk it's

The fastest way to devalue your 33 or 34 and this isn't a dig yet anyone is to put a single turboAustralian part build on it. Mm-hmm. I have never seen a car built to the level that they're built to

where theyDon't gain much valueThe only people you're really going to gain value from is someone who wants an exact setup which in the drag racing world is zeroWhere my car I listed for 350 and I had some jokesters. I was like yeah good luck

And I have a standing offer right now. That will pay for a asking price. It wouldn't have happened with a fucking chain

Yeah350 grand into it right. Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean you can tell just when you walk up to it. Yeah, like I mean

Hood and headlights are 50 grand. Yeah, the car cost me 90 so right there were at 140 and we haven't even talked about the

$70,000 engine and $30,000 transmission which now puts us at 240 andWe really haven't talked about shit yet. We also 10 grand seats are 12 grand, you know like

I don't know, but there's somebody who sees the value and went oh yeah this car is perfectThat's another thing too like you picked parts that aren'tDistaxful right there. You know timeless right, you know, they're good. They're good parts

Those OGTs that are on there there were 2018 build-day item new in boxI opened the box to put them on the car 2018 wasn't that long agoThose if let's say you bought my car for 350 and like those wheels you sell for670 grand. Yeah, you know, they're perfect OG bronze

GTR spectes, you know like who doesn't want those anything you don't wantIs holding all of its fucking value, you know, whereas you know how many fucking plasma man in her coolerI seen for 20% of MSRP or inter intake manifolds for5600 bucksThat stuff is cool if if you just want to go fast and you don't care, butI'm not none of this makes senseTo if you want to do that it doesn't make sense to take a GTR right there's other car. Oh, I had an argument with Australians because like a couple of

Australians in the GTR group. I'm like

Why do you have a GTR and they're like what it's fucking, you know, it's Godzilla and it's it's for nostalgiaThat's why you haven't that's the only you try to drag race. It's for nostalgia

Why would you stop at just the chassis? Why does the nostalgia stop at like the the exterior right?

You should be nostalgic about under the hood or the wheels though brakes like not saying you need old shitty stuff right but like I guarantee you most of these people who haveSome fucking case sport brakes or whatever shitty brakes would beWould break just the same with a 1995 version of the greex. Oh, yeah, you know what I mean like they're not you're not losing anything or better yet

The stock fucking brembo's you know and then like take it to the turbo. Do you do you need that?

Like I love that hk I stayed with the times I came with those g series turbos because I wanted to run oneIf they didn't come out with that I would have had to take the t-511 or the t-04-0 over there and rebuild it to be secretly modern becauseThe t-511 are in the t-04-0 are just as known and nostalgic as the fuckingSkyline of sure, you know, you you actually probably more because you'd see him on super as in SkylinesYeah, so like that shit. It's it's period correct period correct

But like modern enough my car makes 801 you know like that's that enoughYeah, you're fucking no it's going on and that's not all the potentialYeah, and like with a turbo change I could I can make over a thousand mm-hmm just changing the turboAndrews car has the exact same set of as one he made 992 just a different turboDamnThat's a lot of power for theseConnecticut streets you know, it's a lot of power for the three inch mines silent VX pro on the carYou must have blown the baffles out of everything already. There's no way it sounds great. It sounds like

The engines trying to escape from fucking jailWe know it's just to the blue our dyno fan across the whole parking lot a8,000 rpmYou know, there's moving arrows like turbo looking down. We had it

We had it like holding in our wideband so our dyno would have oneWe have it connected to the user jack and see but we wanted to on the dyno graphAnd it was holding it and trying to like evacuate a little more exhaust fumes out of the shopAnd it just fucking with tumbling across the parking lot like farYou know probably 20 20 pounds or something. Oh, yeah, it's pressure. Yeah, it's crazy

It's gonna realize how much air flow. Oh my god. He's moving through an engine. Right. Yeah, it's it's not

Yeah, it's true right like when you see those flames rip out the bag of a carIt's not just flames coming out. Yeah, it's an insane amount of air. Yeah, propulsion, you know, it's it's crazy

So okay, so for the restoration real quick. I know I know where

We got plenty left to do here, butOkay, so you've talked about in house. You've got everything

What about interiorThat's the spiciest like that's the spiciest question because my opinion is by a car with a good interiorThe only reason is because I don't likeTo change it. Yeah

Yeah, yeah, let's just talk about 33's 1995. I don't want to see an Alcantara dash and a 95 needs right?

That doesn't make any fucking senseI even have a little bit of trouble with the with carbon fiber exotic materials on econoboxesWhich is what I call anything from JapanMinus a LFA or you know, whatever yeah, it seems goofy even in an R35 and Alcantara interiorSeems a little strange. Yeah, it's like putting an Alcantara in a 350 c

You wouldn't do it. You don't do it

With that being said, I know a lot of people like that stuffThe Porsche world that you see behind you is has brought me toA kind of different level on that like for example like I painted this car center console redIs that something you would have done five six years ago? Do you think

Never right I would have never done it because think about who used to do thatOh, yeah, sure you know what I'm saying. So it's with the Honda's yeah, well, that's it

That's that's what I grew up on it was Honda so like if you had a bunch of fucking pained vents and shitYeah, I'll be honest. I didn't even know I still don't know where they got those ideas because

Porsche is now you can get these cars with painted center consoles and stuffI think maybe I guess you could of but I don't think the Honda community was that in tune with the fucking Porsche world rightBut now like I'll show a painted interior factory painted interior to a buddy who's a JDM head not that in a portion ofFucking red vents and I'm like noYou don't get it. It's okay here. It's fine. I'm extinguisher

Yeah, exactly and that's the other thing is likeI let things slide that I wouldn't let slide aftermarket if it's OEMRight it was that manufacturer. Yeah, right. I mean if they do it

It's done to a level where it makes sense except for Porsche's interior carbon fiber everything else is goodUm the carbon fiber just falls apartBut as far as interior it goes like my 33 what I did to the interior what I'm gonna do to the interior is gonna be subtleBut still touchedAnd I learned that from the Australians way of judging the car showThat is what like I took away from that was like yes, it does need to be touched and some can argue mine is touchedBecause I have R34 front mirror seats it is touching right but now the door panels don't match

So I bought the series one fabric and we're gonna do the door panels and rear panels much changes steering wheelAnd that's kind of like that's kind of like the OEM specYeah, it's like OEM plus I call like a throwback or a throwForward whatever the fuck you want to say I like to be able to repurpose orModernize something within the brand without going aftermarket, which it's aftermarket, but it's it's notYou know what I mean like you could look at it's for caro for Nissan. Yeah, yeah, right whatever

You know like another thing we do that like I like the little touches is like our hikest elitesYeah, the levels we go to delete hikest is fucking stupidSo we take an S14 subframeOr an S13 subframe and I cut the bracket that holds the rear arm on which would be where your hikest isAnd I weld that bracket. I cut the one off the 34, which has like a bolt hole

You know to hold the the steering rack and then I weld on the brackets from the 14In a 33 you do it to a 13 whatever or a 32 I use a 13 one andwhen all is said and doneOn a 32 especially it just kind of looks like a 14 subframeBut the reason I do it because you could just bolt the 14 one in yeah, right is it doesn't add withRight because if you put a 14 one at 10 millimeters on either sideSo if like fucking to merrass on came to my shot. I don't even know who I would say would do this

Came to my shop and looked underneath my 32 or I showed on my subframe which I'll show you when we're done hereThey would not know what the fuck is going on. I would assume to merrass on would have no idea what the fuck is going on

Which is like wild to think about butIt's cuz no one in the right mind would sacrifice this500-dollar subframe to make just for two brackets because that's over. I'm used to this after I do that. You're right. You kind of jump. Yeah. Yeah

But uh, I want to be able to bolt a nismo armLike that's why using S13 nismo arm in place and now I don't have steering rack, you know in the back and I don't like usYeah, it's like it was almost never there. It was never there. Yeah, you know, and then I use like gk tech welding um

Gussets to like just nice. I don't think you need it, but

I modified some day. I'd like to strengthen it as much as I can and most people won't go looking for those details

No, but when they do and they see it they have to appreciate the time and energy that went into itWe don't even do it on customer cars. The only customer car that has is Alex Bowman's 32

If someone asked me, hey, can you do it that way? I would but it probably cost you like three grand to do yeah

If you're like that then well the cool the reason I do stuff like that is so everything serviceableIf I do some weird fucking, you know, you don't have any cars coming here with like Japanese hikest elites and I'm likeThat is that and Rodin is is fucking loose. Yeah, I can't just replace our rodin

So I have to replace the whole fucking hikest eliteRight you could just have an S13 arm in here that has rubber bushings that you can buy at your dealer, you knowSo I like the serviceability and I like therepeatability of of thingsI want to be able to like break down a cali and be able to fix it instead of being like I need my fucking fabricator hereFloating tomorrow. Yeah, I don't want to deal with that. Yeah

So I know this guy did have one one thing he wanted to ask about something about Haggard or or something. Don't here we go

This will be the last one. What was it Haggard garage? Yeah Haggard garage. Dude. What's the deal with that?

So I've never been involvedI'm post Haggard garage with Rodin. Okay, so I met Rodinick after he had been this we can actually talk this is like a good good funny

Topic because I have a different outlook today than I had back thenBasically, I guess what it was was a bunch of Connecticut kids that just hung out and did some fuckingChatchery that never should have got done and they never should haveReally gained any popularity because I think it would like drifting do more damage for the community than positivebut it was entertaining andRodinick raced for me on I was a part of that and when I met him he was he had just exited soWhen I got the pitch the story it was like oh

Orion it started it and he was making all this money not telling anyone and he was filming all us and and then one day when we discovered itumI just told mom's gonna start my own channel and he offered me money to stay and I said fuck you, you know, whateverlooking back nowI would never share my ad revwith anyone that didn't put in the timeThat it takes to make those videos right so I I doubt any of the fucking scusards they hung out with paid for the camera

edited the videos right replied to comment any energy put any energy into it so tell as a non-YouTuberOh my god, it's kind of fucked up that this dude was like profiting off of you guys yeahAnd now I look back as a youtuber and I'm likeIt was affording youOpportunities while yeah, maybe wasn't paying you but you don't deserve the money from his fucking day job eitherIt's almost the same as like any youtuber filming an event right and not paying each each

Contest or you filming this podcast and not paying me right?

I know or you filming this podcast him coming along and you not paying him because he's the merch like it's rightIt's not like that if if he sat down with guys in this table like we need to fucking start a YouTubeYou're the film or you're the editor on this guy that that's differentBut if he just started filming with his GoPro and editing and just putting junk on the internet and all of a sudden it started creating revenueHe's just a hustler. Yeah, right. He's just the guy who had the

The brain mm-hmm, and he doesn't have to give anyone anythingYeah, in my opinion he put in the work. He put in all the work and now as a youtuber that got to where I am

You would never have arelationship where it would be even to have a two-hostYouTube channel I'm not saying podcasts. I'm sure you guys are perfectly even right a YouTube channel

Is impossible to have a an equal right?

Yes, someone might like you more than you and something more like you more than youBut if you're building your GTR and he's watchingYou're putting money into content, right? And if you're both building GTRs, but you're building a 34 and he's building a 32

Well, he's not putting as much money in you knowI see what you do. To be even unless you guys did everything identical

And if you did do everything identical, that would be the worst channel I'd ever watch right you know, soLooking back at the time when I talked shit about Orion doing that and now that IReally step back and learned who who I believe Rodnic is I'm like that's the most entitled thing I've ever heard somebody else say becauseYou know in your job, I'm sure there was people that helped you get to the endBut they didn't do it as much as you right and you have to it's only your responsibility to decide what they're worth. I would love to hear Orion's

Yeah, I would love to talk to Orion. Yeah, did you watch Hagrid or something? No, no, I didn't just whenever

Doing a little bit of research it you thought the red yeah, yeah, the red is like the most toxic place everWhich is like fine. It's fine that these people literally

I assume have get zero attention and like that's their outlet for their hatredAnd if that's how they want to live their life like I'm about itEspecially when they have a chance at actually contacting who they're talking about wellNo one even fucks with it anymore because they got so belligerent that like I used to be in thereLike I've banned Rodnic was in there Jimmy's been in there spoonsEveryone's been in there and everyone tries to just get in and get in the water and you know swim with them, butThey're not even like loyal to themselves, you know, so it's just like it's just like you can tell them that they're wrong and they'll go

Oh, yeah, I guess I'm wrong. Well, that's the worst with YouTube comments in general someone talks shit

And you're like actually did it and they're like holy shit. I didn't think you'd respond. I didn't mean anything

Backpedal so hard of my life, but yeah, it is crazy. It's fun to watch

I'll be like Jack watches like responding and they'll do it like clockwork, you know, but it'sThat read it is there's nothing pause and I don't even be positive. You're not gonna gain much there

They prefer their fan fiction over the truth. Yeah, which so what tells me is they like

Fiction all shit and they want to watchDrama shit. It's a little it comes across a little like fam to me. Yeah, and I don't want to say that like a I do want to say the

Dark tour away, but I don't want to like poke at themThere's a time you can be gossipy and dramatic there's things that go down that are that are shadowed and slept under the rug thatDo that and have your fun you see with every reality TV show they have read itBut there's also times when they're talking shit about people's girlfriends and wives or moms or even worse they're digging up like likeEda yeah, and it's just like they're doxing people there yeah, and it's just like okay andI've got a funny story. I actually took over that read it one time for a very short time

Of you was like do it on number three in line. What do you want to do and like

I just unleashed my patreon on their gave them all moderator roles and fuck that place up so badThat's why I'm on the top of the of the header. It's it's as I quote Tommy F. Yeah

This is Tommy F. Yeah, you have better give us this much by this time or whatever

It's still there, but uhThey awoke a sleeping giant so the person who started the redditThey had to like scramble in contact who wasn't even active anymore to take it back over because I was number two or three in the orderSo I could have like wiped it, you know crazy. It was fun. It's it but I just want to show them like

You know I could do this too, right? You know and I'll pay money

I've offered bounties on people find find me this do this. I'll pay you money

Because that's one thing they won't do but what's funny is when I find them paying for my patreon to get secret information. Oh wow

It's like well you paidYeah, but you were in that you were in that infoYeah, so that that's a funny place, but there's a lot of them. Yeah

They're not critical enough about the right stuff. They sleep on stuff. We're all calling them like

Did you see they said this but they totally slept on this entire hugeMine, you know like yeah, what the fuck was this about and it's like some small detail and they think they'reReally digging up and then you're like, yo, what about the fact that this didn't happen like it was supposed to andYeah, the whole story doesn't line up anymore. Yeah, just we just laugh about them missing with their fanfaxes

The time they're close wrong. Yeah, they they make stories up even like about me that like I mean I've seen it all like

I asked a part of the child. Yeah, they think I'm a business partner. They think my parents bought my farm and all this

Like they make this whole thing up and I don't even correct them anymore. I'm just like whatever that's my that's my like

Issue is I I like data and I like the truth so ifIf I think something like I think something about you and he's able to clarify it or you areI'm not gonna go. I think I'm right anyway

You know what I mean like you put someone when you clear for them like I was way off or I would tell you what my theory is and you'd be like noBut it's this right that's more fun to me than just being like no, I'm rightThis is the situation, you know, you're like no, no, I'm telling you the fucking story how it happenedI still like my my story. Yeah, that's fantasy and that's where I think they are like getting off on this like weird

They're a part of this universe thattheHaggard garage Reddit is a part of the thisWhole universe that everyone's a part ofBut it's like this big and it's more laughed at but it's also likeNot one person. It's all 24,000 of them are one

Yeah, and if and if if one guy's wrong they all lose credibility and if one guy's rightYou know, they don't all gain credibility. It's it's it's they're very uh, they're very fucked

They're never gonna get what they want out of this. That's why that's why we look at we look at the whole thing and we go that's

Reddit. Yeah, we'll say even shit's not read it like a comment

You belong on the reddit, you know, if you say somehow, rage isYou're a redger now, but but garbage yeah garbage waste of time the fact that there's people in there that spendConsistently X amount of time in there every day is pretty sad because and that and that and that thatThat Reddit is a HaggardGarageReddit too, right? Yeah, it's a grudge. It's haggar. It's it's funny because like he said he was post-haggard. Yeah, I wasn't part of it

People they talk about yeah, that's what saying. Well you guys will be out there now. Oh, yeah, don't post your

You go I guarantee you go on there, but like 24 hours after you post. Yeah, yeah, you'll see post about me about him

Post off on the podcast and what does this mean that he said about? Like one time I said something about like Kyle from

Boosa boys in a live stream where and it wasn't bad. I was just like we don't do the same thing

That was like the gist of it. Maybe I said it wrong or whatever

The cute believers comparing himself to Kyle from Boosa boys and then one time I said like ohClevver's fucking up. I had that freedom factory. I'd be doing something different

And I didn't mean it like he's doing something. Oh, I mean, like I wouldn't use it that way. Yeah

That's like a fantasy of my own to be like oh if I had that I'd do this and I'd move this over hereI think everyone at this table would do a different thing at the freedom factory. Yeah, of course for me to

Ensite that conversation with a bunch of livestream peopleMaybe I don't even remember what I said. Maybe I went about it wrong. Tommy would do weddings there. Yeah

Yeah, I would never compare me in where I'm at to Clevver's and where he's at and I would never need to we're not on the samePlane level like he's way bigger and better and whatever he's doingBut we're not even going for the same goal right different game on us. Yeah, it's fucking like

It's the most apples and oranges thing you could compare in his motivation. Yeah, yeah exactly. Oh my god

This youtuber owns an airstrip of fucking racing. Oh my god the airstrip. Yeah, crazy. What in say about an airplane?

I have I do like you know just my ownYouTube videos of whatever I want to do. Yeah

One of the things I do is I taught myself how to fly a helicopter in a simulator. Oh cool. I made a video flying at that airstrip

Oh, wow, because somebody made like a version of it in the flight simulator. It's one of my biggest videos because

Glanding at clean is the strip, you know, that's crazyBut that's fun and I love to be a part of you know, whatever everyone's doing butUm, all right. I want to go do car stuff. You do. I want to see this stuff. You got me all worn out about the GT and everything else

But obviously everybody knows but where can we find you on the internet?

Garage S zero is the YouTube channelGarage S zero with a zero on the end is the Instagram and then my Instagram's TommyI feel which I am changing like garage a zero Tommy if you're a GS zero or somethingI want to like connect everyone like jack beyond you know all that but right now it's just that TommyI feel I'm actually not doing it because I want to make sure I canOwn Tommy if you still if I change itI might just put it in the bio. I don't really know. I'm gonna go about it. Yeah, but

email garage S zero at Gmail if you want to get a car built andBring that big budget. Those you want to play

To be fair like the your average build and I'll show you what our average build is probably like 45 55 and then2-8 build start like 60Somewhere in there to do like a 2-8 you know from 45 to 60 makes sense, you know 55 would be a gnarly 2-6 build60 is probably a pretty weak 2-8 build like pretty basic 2-8 build but that's where it starts andIf you come down if you're serious and you have a gtr and you prove you're not a fucking redder from

I'll take you for riding shit or let you drive something or whateverYeah, and soWhere do we find you on the internet? You can go YouTube jack Cecil or you can just google HP logic. That's the name of my shop

Okay, and then you'll find me him andEverything in between where is HP logic nowadays? It's down in it's still in the same location is down in florida

I've just basicallyI've converted a lot of my efforts to garage S zeroYeah, just so that I can focus on on that project because HP logic kind of turn keys doesn't do its own thingYeah, I have a mechanic there full time just work in and I'll tune cars as they come and as they need but I'm notactively pursuing any growth from that I see yes pushing towards the world now it is I live in floridaOkay, so he just flies you up on the private jet. Yeah

It's on the PJs called jet blueThat's a private waySo you know I'm come in easy do basemaps do tunes whatever I'm check shit and then he can do anything remotely tooYeah, that's cool. It's actually really easy getting here for me because the airport so close

Last time I came up here. I actually forgot my driver's license. Oh wow

Went to the airport went to check in dynamite license drove home got it came backAnd still made my flightAll right boys, we definitely appreciate the time here. Yeah, it's been amazing

But for episode 133 I'm Bobby. This is Aaron. See ya. This is Tommy. This is Jack. Hey

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