{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"Tony Kushner on The Pushcart War","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/tony-kushner-on-the-pushcart-war","audioUrl":"https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/waroncars/TWC_031726_V2.mp3?dest-id=807818","description":"The Pushcart War—written by Jean Merrill and illustrated by Ronni Solbert and first published in 1964—is a charming and provocative children's novel that tells the story of a band of pushcart vendors who fight against the organized forces of big trucks on the congested, contested streets of New York City. For Tony Kushner, the Pulitzer-prize-winning playwright, screenwriter, and author, reading the book as a child was a formative experience. \"It made opposition, even nonviolent civil disobedience, seem fun and right and necessary and heroic, and something even someone as powerless as a kid can and should undertake,\" he has said. March 2026 marks the 50th anniversary of the date on which the events described in the book are said to have begun. So we invited Kushner on to talk about The Pushcart War and what it can tell us about how to defend human beauty and agency against the brutal forces of technocratic capitalism. &nbsp; Get&nbsp;The Pushcart War,&nbsp;plus other great books for kids,  at our Bookshop.org page.&nbsp; Join The War on Cars on Patreon and listen to exclusive ad-free versions of regular episodes, Patreon-only bonus content, Discord access, invitations to live events, merch discounts and free stickers! Order our new book,  Life After Cars: Freeing Ourselves from the Tyranny of the Automobile, out now from Thesis, an imprint of Penguin Random House. Find us on tour and get tickets at LifeAfterCars.com.&nbsp; Thanks to  Upway for sponsoring this episode.  Use this link and save $100 off any order of $800 or more with the code TWOC100. Thanks also to Cleverhood. Listen to this episode for the latest discount code and get 15% off the best rain gear for walking and cycling. The War on Cars is produced with support from the Helen and William Mazer Foundation. TheWarOnCars.org &nbsp; &nbsp;   "},"annotations":[{"startTime":1.7,"endTime":6.5,"type":"concept","title":"e-bike revolution","url":"/glossary/e-bike-revolution","quote":"We're in the middle of what can only be described as an e-bike revolution. From e-bikes made for the commute to work, carrying kids in cargo, or having some fun,","canonicalId":"concept:e-bike-revolution","priority":0.9,"confidence":1.0,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4.1-mini","data":{"explanation":"The e-bike revolution refers to the rapid growth and adoption of electric bicycles, which are bicycles equipped with an electric motor to assist with pedaling. 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