Toyota Highlander vs Jeep Sahara , Shadow Corner debut

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I'm your host, Jay Finning, recording from my home studio in Gilbert, AZ. That's Gilbert.

If I said that too fast back from my vacation, I've been gone for the last 2 1/2 weeks. So you got the two.

Yeah. Two of my favorite episodes.

The best of the classics. Sean Lee was the first one.

Hopefully you guys listened or watch that.

If not, go back and check it out.

That's an interview that I did with Sean Lee, the founder of Purist Group in California, Philanthropist.

I want to say in 2020, maybe 2021, late 2021 or 2020, I don't remember anymore. And then of course, most

recently, Noel G, commonly known as Hector and pretty much everything. He plays Fast and furious

Training Day. I don't know if he's Hector in

Training Day, The Purge, he's been in The Walking Dead, he's been in a bunch of movies, more movies that you would think.

And that was my first, I would say remote interview where I went to the house that he was staying in at the time.

And I digitally remastered the audio from that because there was a lot of reverb in the original podcast.

And I was kind of shell shocked after that because I never liked like, I liked the interview, but I hated the audio.

And obviously, as you could tell nowadays, years later, I've got all that stuff tightened up. It's that's very important to

me. But I wanted you to go back and

listen to or watch both of those because they were really good conversations. I would say they're less

interviews and more conversations.

And that's what this podcast is about, more conversations, less pure interviews, gives you an opportunity to really learn about the guests, whether they're famous or they're just normal people like myself and like most of you listening in or watching this on Spotify or YouTube.

So go back and listen to those. Coming up on today's episode, a

new segment, The Conspiracy Corner, something I think I've been talking about a little bit in the past.

Finally got one of those episodes recorded.

A lot of fun. All I ask of my guest is do not

get me fired, do not get me cancelled.

Had a lot of fun doing it. And I can promise you, you're

going to enjoy that segment when we get to it.

Also, a little car news. We rented 2 vehicles.

We had a 2025 Jeep Sahara, 4 by E.

And a week later or a few days later actually, because we had a couple days without a car, we rented a 2025 Toyota Highlander.

I will compare those. They are both good rentals.

Which one would I buy? Which one should you consider

buying depending on what you're doing, whether they're new or used in the future? Had a lot of fun all that more

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Going to hop right into IT. Like I said we were gone for two

weeks and I do that every year. Take vacation obviously because

we can. This was more of a family trip.

It was a good opportunity for our kids and our grandkids to go up north and for a lot of the extended family to meet the children. Some of them have met Zeke

before, as he's the oldest. They'll be 7 soon.

But none of them, unless they came down here or was with us in Puerto Rico, had met Nova. Almost no one's met Nya and no

one's met Aleida. And so we were in Michigan for a

while. Got an opportunity to link up

with friend of the show. Support of the show, Dwayne of B

House, small home design as well as Marcus.

So shout out to those guys. I did not get a chance to get to

with everybody in Michigan. We got a lot of supporters all

over the place. But the times that that I was

able to link up with my family and friends.

One more friends. I don't have any real family in

Michigan except for by extension of my wife.

But we got to hang out with a lot of the cousins and it was a blast. One of the cousins, one of my

nieces, I get, I think she's technically my niece.

We haven't seen her since we moved here.

We've seen her sister a few times.

You were on vacation with us. But it's always a good time to

kind of unplug and hang out with family.

And if you have a larger family, whether it's yours or your partner's family, it's kind of a big deal.

I don't have a big family. I have a very small family and

there may be more people in the family, but we don't really hang out or know each other. My wife's family, you don't

really have to search hard to find cousins, nephews, nieces, uncles. It's always kind of good to to

kind of do those things. We stayed in an Airbnb, one of

the mini lakes in in Michigan, not nearly as many lakes as in Minnesota, which is coming up in a few seconds.

But oh, sorry, Mark Stoneman, I apologize.

I blew past your name. Thank you so much, Mark.

And your your son Jackson for coming up to the rental house and hanging out with me for a couple hours as well.

Mark Stoneman, also strong supporter of the podcast.

Thank you so much. Had a couple pops I actually

didn't get out on the lake when we had the Michigan home and the lake was nice. It was really warm, is a really

shallow lake from what I understand.

The only time I actually put foot in the water was the day that I was working from the Airbnb and the entire family went up north to check out some other stuff.

I don't get PTO so when I'm gone during the week I try to work remotely. Fortunately I have a job that I

can do that. Not everybody has a job where

they can work remote, so I try not to complain about it too much. But just the nature of what I do

for work allows me to work remotely.

And I don't get, like I said, PTO because I'm a contractor.

If it's a holiday like July 4th, I get paid for holidays.

But for July 4th, we spent the entire day at the lake with the family. We had to get up and get there

early. I think we pulled in around 8:40

in the morning and we didn't pull out of there till pretty much midnight because of the traffic.

But we knew what we had ahead of us because when we lived there, we did that almost every 4th of July.

So it's kind of one of those deals where you have to make a day of it. It's one day of the year.

In our case, it's one day in quite a few years.

After we finished up in Michigan, we went down to Chicago for 2 1/2 days. I think ever since Zeke was

born, which is my oldest grandkid, my wife has been begging for us to go to Chicago so she can take him to Shedd Aquarium. And you know, all the things

that the first born child gets and or the first born grandson gets, all those bennies, all those benefits.

So we finally were able to do that, took them to the Navy Pier, took them to Shedd Aquarium, had a great time.

When you sit back and you look at the family, the older you get, the more you appreciate it. It was worth the time off.

I mean, again, I did work remotely, but a little bit, but walking around Chicago was great.

You know, it was the first trip that my son and his girlfriend and their six month old now baby had gone on together with us.

And so we got a lot of great photos.

You can see them on my J Travels page on Instagram.

You don't really see that stuff on the main podcast page or my main Instagram at Jfenning. But those photos, those videos,

you know, looking back, they're going to remember them forever.

Most of the family left us, the kids, the grandkids left us.

After Chicago, my wife and I and Zeke moved forward to Minnesota to hang out with my mother and my brother.

You don't hear much about my family because we hardly ever see him. Last time, I mean, every every

summer. Yvette and I have gone up there

for the past few years, actually, since my father died in 2020. I feel like Yvette and I have

gone up there, I think every year now, if not every year with this being 2025, four of the last five years we've gone up there. But the house we rented there

was really nice too. And you saw a lot of that on my

J Travels page as well. Another very large lake, a very

shallow lake. I think that lake's deepest is

19 feet to the best of my memory of all the bodies of waters I've been around, especially as an adult.

I don't know if I've ever, me personally, I've ever been at a lake that was more clear. I don't know if everyone's

outdoors, but there's those times where you go and you're crossing a bridge or you're at a Creek at a hike and it's the popular spot and everybody's there swimming or fishing.

And you look down in the water and you can see the rocks at the bottom and it's really like 12 feet deep.

But that's a stream, you know, like that's a Creek that might be a river, but it's rare that you find that with a lake.

And there's a lot of lakes out there like that.

I'm not a big outdoorsy person so I don't go to those a lot, But this lake we stayed at and I think South Haven, Minnesota cuz there's a South Haven, MI in South Haven, MN.

This lake that we stayed at was was really special and Zequin fishing for the first time. It's kind of one of those deals.

I, I complain on the trip because I'm always stuck driving and I don't know if it's just a guy thing.

I don't know if women just think guys like to drive.

I don't know if it's emasculating if you make your woman drive, but it's kind of one of those weird dynamics.

But I know that was a weird pivot.

But I'm thinking about it now because I glanced down at the at the rental cars. My wife says, aren't you a car

guy? You're car guys you like to

drive. I go no, no, no.

One thing has absolutely nothing to do the other.

I love driving my NSX, my Honda Z, other cars going from short destination to cars and coffee car event car show.

I like going on car cruises with my buddies, driving a rental car all week and having to drive hours at a time.

It's not fun. Even when you go across country

with your buddies on a trip. Like last year when we went to

NS Expo, the trip itself sucked. The journey was kind of fun

because you have their walkie talkies, every gas station, you're saying what's up, Everyone's going inside, hanging out for a few minutes, get back in your car and you push and it's a lot of fun rolling around in a group of the same car across city to city. It's not the same thing as

picking up a rental car in Chicago.

We flew to Chicago before Michigan.

So we flew to Chicago, picked up the rental vehicle and drove it to Michigan and it was a very long day.

Our rental house that we stayed at was an hour north of Grand Rapids and it's about an hour, well, about 40 minutes, thirty minutes N to Grand Rapids. It's about an hour, just over an

hour from the rental house to Holland State Park where the beach is, where we spent all day for 4th of July.

You heard that time stamp. And then when we got down in

Michigan, we drove back to Chicago.

And then once we got to Minnesota, we rented the other car and we drove from there up to the lake house, which is an hour and a half away. So that's a lot of driving.

And none of that is fun. So when my wife says you like

cars, you should like to drive. One thing has absolutely nothing

to do the other. Send me a comment.

Let me know if you agree. One thing has absolutely nothing

to do with the other. We could have rented a

Lamborghini Urus and sure, I would love to drive one of those. I still have it.

But you get to a threshold to where it stops being fun and starts being work. It's like, well, my job, I get

compensated pretty well. And when I look at a job

contract and they say, hey, this one pays $10 more an hour than that one. And I always say the money

doesn't matter as much. And people look at me like I'm

crazy. It matters.

But if this job over here wants to pay me $20.00 an hour more

then this other job, you know, within the first week or two on a job, you don't even think about the money.

You say God this travel sucks. These people are crazy people at

work, they're mean, they're aggressive.

And the money, you don't even think about the money.

You just think about your happiness with the job, the fulfilment. And if you can't wait to get out

of there or if you can't wait to get a job extension.

Driving a rental car is the same way.

You drive it around, you take pictures of it, you take videos of it, you review it and you're done.

But when you're driving, sometimes 5 hours a day if not more depending on where you are on the trip, that ain't fun.

Meanwhile, boy, it must be nice to sit in the passenger seat and crush social media and take a nap and then when you get to where you're going, say, oh, I need some coffee because I'm really tired. It sure is tiring riding in the

passenger seat. Meanwhile, I'm trying to stay.

I'm trying to stay awake behind the wheel.

Maybe the kid behind us has her iPad on because they refuse to put their headphones on, You know?

I mean, am I preaching to the choir?

It ain't all roses. So the whole thing, I I don't

know. It's just you should like

driving. So sound like I'm frustrated.

Yeah. But here's the deal.

Honestly, If I needed my wife to drive, she would drive if I was tired. If I was sick, maybe I had too

much to drink and she didn't have too much to drink.

Not advocating drunk driving, just saying.

But usually if she's drank and I've drank and it's not too bad, maybe I'm just tired, she'll drive or we'll just Uber or she'll just tell me to suck it up because she's had way too much to drink. Back to the Minnesota place.

So we have to drive 20 miles just to get back into town to go to Walmart. Wife decides the next day that

she wants to buy Zika fishing pole.

He's never gone fishing, but real quick to volunteer to drive the kid to Walmart to buy a fishing pole.

So I said don't worry about it, I'll go with you because you have no idea what you're doing. Now I haven't gone fishing in

decades, but when I was a Cub Scout, a Boy Scout would go to my grandmother's lake. We would go fishing all the

time. So I know how to fish, I just

haven't gone in decades. Wife has never fished.

Wouldn't no shit from a shat looking at a reel.

Obviously the six year old has no idea and so I went with him to Walmart. We picked out a starter reel for

him. I picked out the bobbers, picked

out the weights, picked out which rigs or lures.

Had to explain to him. Try to explain to a six year old

who thinks he knows everything why you would use this bait versus that bait. Very frustrating when they think

they know everything. They don't know shit.

My wife has no idea. So we buy a fishing pole.

We go back to the house, I get it all rigged up, and the kid has the time of his life. And you know what?

After all that hoop and hollering, I'm glad we bought him a fishing pole and I'm glad I went with him and I'm glad we experienced that. First thing he caught within 5

minutes, quite literally 5 minutes of fishing off the dock, was a largemouth bass. Wasn't a big one, maybe a ## and

a half. Took it off the hook, Wife

didn't want to touch it, kid has no idea.

So I took it off the hook and then throughout the course of the next day he probably caught, I want to say he caught four or five more fish. None of them were that big.

There was a bluegill he caught. There was probably a half pound,

which is a really good size for a bluegill.

Those of you who have any idea of what I'm talking about will agree with me, especially off the dock fishing.

The thing is, the reel we bought him had a 6 LB weight line and I cringed when I bought it. I'm like 6 LB weight if this

thing weighs a pound and a half or 2 lbs depending on how you reel this in, this thing is going to snap every single time.

And it did. There was a largemouth bass and

I think you saw the video on J Travels.

If not, I'm actually going to overlay it on this video that when we were trying to take the other largemouth bass off his line, the first one he caught, the bigger one tried to eat that one off his fishing line. That one later we caught it and

it snapped the line once if not twice because the line got snapped twice by fish that we visibly saw another fish she caught on the paddle board. Well we were paddling.

I had paddled once and we cut the fish and my wife paddled.

The other time we caught the fish it fell off before he got to the dock for me to take it off the hook.

But great time, was able to meet up with my cousin and his wife.

We had to drive about an hour north and meet up with him as a midway point because we stayed about two hours South of where we usually stay, which is about an hour away from the airport.

We had a great dinner at a place called Johnny Seas middle of nowhere. And the next morning we had to

get up and drive to the airport because our flight was the same morning, which kind of sucked, but we made it in time.

And overall, it was a great trip.

And you know, I was reminded once I got home just where we were because we're waiting for our Uber here in Phoenix.

And I look up and there's this lady with this big hat on.

She smelled and looked like Scottsdale.

And they have a regular like Toyota Camry, so a regular Uber.

She's got 2 teenage boys with her, all this luggage, 2 full size service dogs. When I say full size, we're

talking maybe yellow lab. And this Uber driver, as he's

loading the back, trying to figure out how he's going to put all these suitcases, these kids, and these dogs in his car, it's kind of giving her this look when she's not really looking.

And I'm seeing his look and he's thinking, I know exactly what he's thinking. He's thinking, are you kidding

me right now? And I'm thinking, why didn't you

call him Uber X? Uber XL with two grown kids,

pretty much two teenagers, 2 full grown, Who needs 2 full grown service talks? I can see one.

I see him all the time on the plane.

They lay on your foot. People want you to think they're

cute. I love dogs.

I don't understand having a service dog that big.

I just don't. That's just me not trying to

trigger an interview. Cancer culture is dead, so get

off me. But two full size service dogs

she's got, was it one for each kid?

Each kid drives her so crazy she needs a service dog for each kid. So she shoves the kids and these

two full grown dogs in the back seat.

She gets in the front seat and the Camry reel pulls off and I'm thinking, yeah, we are definitely back home.

So that was a trip. Coming up, the car news as we

talk about my rentals. And then and then if you're

still listening or watching, thank you very much.

And then the first ever conspiracy corner.

Gosh, I feel like I can't hit this.

The opening of this, that whole first travel segment, I feel I hit with a lot of energy. And you know why?

Because people tell me they love this podcast and they also listen to it to fall asleep. Wake up, wake up, people, we're

not doing this. Someone reached out and said I

should do my voice on a YouTube channel and just read children's books and people use that to fall asleep.

And I could, that's a good idea. Maybe I could do that to

monetize as my other channels aren't doing so great.

But it's not a compliment for a podcaster.

Hey, Jay, listen, and I've said this before, but people keep saying it like a show, like your voice sound like a DJ.

You make me fall asleep. Not a compliment, folks.

Anyway, so we get to Chicago and we had it's myself, my mother-in-law. We had Zeke, my daughter, her

boyfriend and the kids. They had so much stuff because

it's. You got, you have a booster

chair, two child seats, all this little miscellaneous luggage, two adults, it's a lot. So we took Zeke.

We had his bag. We had a couple of the other

little kids bags. We didn't have his booster

chair. And so we had to find a vehicle.

Now my wife couldn't rent a minivan.

They didn't have any minivans. Usually you rent minivans.

I don't mind driving a minivan. Chrysler Pacifica for me is the

rental van you want to get just because there's not a lot of other rental vans out there. But I've always had a good

experience with Chrysler Pacifica's.

Not the Kia Carnivals, but no minivans.

And so we find this Jeep. It's a 2025 Jeep Sahara 4 by E

Pick a red one. I open up the back, I look and I

go, hmm, I could put 3 full size suitcases, 2 mini suitcases, 2 backpacks, 3 backpacks actually, and some other miscellaneous things. We can do this.

And so we picked that thing up. You know, I've talked about

vehicles before and how when you get inside a new vehicle for the first time and it's not a manufacturer used to driving, all the buttons and everything are on weird different places.

So the Jeep Sahara to roll up the windows, the front and rear, it's in the center console area. It's not on the door like you

would think. The door lock button I think was

on the door. Anyway, this thing was very

modern, drove pretty nicely, had all the amenities, a giant screen. Obviously car play, no car play

no Ji still start. I still I'm very firm about that

and it seemed like a very nice vehicle.

I could never quite get it to get out of off road mode.

I don't know if it's automatic because after like 20 miles an hour it flips and says, you know, you're no longer on this off road terrain. It's going to drive normal.

It has the opportunity to charge it, but it's also a hybrid, which is good because when I first saw the four by EI was like, oh, is this a fully electronic vehicle?

I don't mind driving an EV vehicle, but you got to know where the charge stations are. I already know it's a 2 hour

drive at least to where we're going.

I don't want to deal with that drama.

I need something with gas. So once I located the gas tank,

I go, hey, this is our vehicle now.

This one was well equipped. It wasn't.

I don't think it was just a standard Sahara 4 by E.

When I looked up the price though, it's close to $60,000.

It's like a $57,000 vehicle, which is pretty crazy.

I think the Sahara is one of the nicer trims.

It's not the top of the line trim, I don't think, but it's definitely it was definitely a nice Jeep and usually when I rent brand new nice cars, I always think about what I want this vehicle and for the most part it was a strong maybe.

Oh, it also came with a removable top, but we didn't we never took the top off. I don't like dealing with that

with rental cars because if you can't figure out how to do it and you get it off, that means it's going to be even worse trying to get it back on before you turn the car in.

So we never anytime I've had a vehicle that has a removable top, I've never taken the top off, so I don't want a monkey with it. This one looked like it was

complicated, maybe an automatic. I'm not sure.

I never did it, but driving to from Chicago to where we're staying just north of Grand Rapids, my butt started to hurt.

And what does that tell you? That tells you the seats aren't

that good. Now I know it's an off road

vehicle as intended, it's a freaking Jeep Wrangler, but it's also kind of a luxury Wrangler. And I decided immediately that I

wouldn't ever want this vehicle because I can't drive in it long distance with my butt hurting. Your butt shouldn't hurt.

It's like a 2 1/2 hour drive and you start moving around like when you're on a plane you know you start shifting on.

I do, my butt hurts on a plane too but no pun intended.

With that being said, you know it it was a great rental vehicle and I would 1000% rent it again if given the opportunity.

Or something similar. Because you know, I was

surprised because there was a day where the family, you know, you know, I said earlier I had to work and everybody else went up north. They went to the Bare Dunes,

which is super famous sand dunes in northern Michigan.

And I think that something crazy, if you decide to go down the hill, you have to get back up.

And if you can't get back up, they'll rescue.

But it's going to cost you something like 3 or $4000 to do it. And there's signs up there that

says if you go down and you can't get back up, you're screwed. You're going to pay us a lot of

money, we'll come get you. And I think my son had talked

about we'll see how this does at the Dunes.

But much of my surprise that day, they just left it with me.

I didn't even know they left the Jeep until I was 80% done with my work day. And I wanted some shaving cream.

And I evaluated because this, just like the Minnesota home, was 20 minutes to the nearest Walmart.

And I go, you know what, I'll just wait.

I will just wait and pick that up when we get to Chicago, the shaving cream because I'm not going to spend an hour for some shaving cream. So I but yeah, I would totally

rent the Jeep Sahara 4 by E again, but a full charge.

I think it's only good for about 30 miles, but I think it's still cool to have a vehicle that you can kind of do both.

The NSX is a hybrid in the garage, but it does not.

It regenerates its own electricity and I don't know how long you can drive on it when it's on full E before the the motor kicks in, but the motor does automatically kick in and I don't know on, I would assume on the Jeep Wrangler it automatically kicks in as well. But let me know if you know.

But for 50 seven, $58,000, I don't think it's something I would ever pull the trigger on. There's got to be a ton more

vehicles that that are just as good, if not better, depending on your use case for less money. After we get to Chicago, we're

walking around, but when we get to Minnesota, so my wife has Hertz President Circle so that you can kind of pick what you want. So in Minnesota, they have a ton

of these Toyota Highlanders and they have some small like the shitty Jeeps, you know, not like the Wranglers or the Grand Cherokees, but like the small Jeep Compasses and some of those things. No offense if you have one of

these vehicles, they're shitty, they're small, they're ugly.

So hard pass when given the option to rent.

So I picked up a 2025 Toyota Highlander SEI think XSXSE was a trim as expected. You know Toyota makes great

vehicles. I uploaded it tag right Toyota

obviously right Toyota had nothing to do with this because I was in Minnesota, right? Toyota's here in Scottsdale, AZ.

However, with that being said, it was a dark grey color.

The Jeep was bright red. So we drove this, you said an

hour and a half up to the lake house, comfortable all the way through. And this was our vehicle for

four days. Drove it up to meet with my my

cousin and his wife. As I said earlier, that was just

over an hour as well. And it was comfortable.

It was comfortable the whole time interior, you know, plenty of power outlets just like the Jeep and then some.

Once I, I looked it up online, the Toyota Highlander came in at I think 46 or $47,000. It was about $12,000 cheaper

than the Jeep. And an easy argument would could

be made that it was nicer. It was definitely more

comfortable. And you know, I would obviously

take the Jeep if I wanted to go over landing if I wanted to do any heavy outdoor stuff. But for my use case as a rental

vehicle, driving from point A to point B, long road trips, short Rd. trips, the Highlander wins hands down.

It's not even close. So I would say that in comparing

the two, it would be the Highlander if I had to pick one to drive for a month, if I had something that I just need to drive for the weekend, feel like I was kind of cool in it, Kind of douchey, right? But still, it would probably be

that Jeep Wrangler 4 by E 'cause you could take it out, get it dirty, not have to worry about it, probably easy to clean.

Top comes off, which we didn't do, but still the top comes off and it has all the normal creature comforts.

It's just not good for a road trip.

So at the end of the day, the Toyota Highlander is a much better vehicle for rental, probably for purchase.

And since it's a Toyota, I could promise you the resale value is going to be better than the Jeep Wrangler.

And that concludes the car news. All right, well, this is the

conspiracy corner. The conspirator is the one who

brings up the topic. I will engage when I need to.

Try not to get me cancelled. Your time starts now.

We have 10 minutes. What are we conspiring about

today? Go.

Today we are going to talk about the alien agenda.

If there is an alien agenda, back in 2024 during the election, you know, they were doing a lot of remember the drones that were so big flying over New Jersey and nobody knew what they were and nobody wanted to shoot them down.

But then one crashed and we didn't hear about what it was.

And we never really got a solid answer on that.

So my conspiracy theory is, is that those drones were definitely advanced vehicles, possibly by another country as a show of force to say, hey, look, we're going to fly these over your town and there's nothing you can do about it.

And the government really didn't have an answer for it.

And it kind of caught us with our pants down.

But I think a lot of the drones and technology and there's, there's other, you're seeing a lot more videos now of actual objects that are flying around unmanned UUPUAPS or whatever and it's just a lot made. You're you're freezing up the

screen. Hopefully this I don't know the

I think the screen is trying to intercept you so.

Yeah. So I think a lot of these

unmanned vehicles flying around are, are government projects from 70s that or 80s that are now being kind of released as a kind of shore force or it might be something that's a distraction too, could be a, a, a red flag event, you know, so.

My screen is black. I don't know what's going on

here. CIA man CIA intercept.

And so it is the CIA, all right. That's what it is.

I knew it. Yeah, I, I, I think, I think

with those, those drones, you know, they said there's a mothership. And when we hear mothership, we

think about science fiction and there's some giant thing floating out, but are are floating in the atmosphere.

But I guess with there's a drone mothership that some countries have and it's literally a giant boat that just deploys all these little drones and pulls them back in.

Yeah. Seems simple enough.

I mean, if you look at what's going on in the Ukraine war, I mean, you can do a lot with the little $200 drone now, but sounds like the stuff that was flying over New Jersey might have been a little bit bigger, but hard to tell when it they only come out at night. So anything else you know seems

like the. Aliens to say that.

Right. Yeah, yeah, they.

Were the. Aliens.

Everything comes out at night. Nothing like.

SUV throw. Up during the day so you know,

what are you going to do? You got 6 more minutes.

What else do we have on conspiracy theory?

You got to. Let's see.

Well, we can talk Bigfoot. What you got on Bigfoot?

Not much. You know, it should be time to

get some Bigfoot stuff out. I'd hate to see that.

You know, there's so many AI bigfoots now that I mean, unless it's standing in my hotel room and nobody's really going to, nobody's really going to believe anything anymore.

So not much happening on the Bigfoot front.

Some people that have spent their entire lives chasing it and never found it, that's got to be the biggest let down in the world to spend 50 years chasing Bigfoot around and never actually see 1. So it's pretty depressing

actually, not to think about it. A lot fewer Bigfoot sighting

since they invented the smartphone, yeah.

Yeah, that's funny how that work.

Or she would think it would be the opposite.

Everybody's walking around with the phone and we've get less and less actual reports, people with phone.

Now don't get me wrong, if if there was a Bigfoot stand in my room right now, I probably wouldn't grab my phone or pan the camera over. I'd probably, you know, do some

life saving things first. But you know, there's a little

part of me I think would at least try to get a photo on the way out the door. But yeah, Bigfoot, what are you

going to do? Do you believe in Bigfoot?

I do. I've had some crazy stuff happen

in the woods. I do a lot of flyer fishing and

I've been in some places that, you know, kind of give you a shiver every once in a while. I had some.

What is your Bigfoot story? Well, I've some friends of mine.

If you believe in Bigfoot, you have to have some sort of reason why you think Bigfoot is a thing.

So so couple friends and I went hiking in Colorado on one of the 14,000 foot mountains. I can't think of which one, but

we spent the day we we started in the parking lot, which is about 9000 elevation and feet. So that would be Pikes Peak.

That might be it. And so we were hiking and in the

parking lot it was raining and by the time we got halfway up it was snowing and then once we got higher than the tree line, it was really snowing. So we're at the top of this

outlook and it's like Blizzard like conditions and we get to the top and kind of we didn't get to the top of the the mountain because it was just, it was whiteout conditions and I knew there was a ledge and a drop off and then you just couldn't see. So as we're, we're we're sitting

there debating how much longer we're going to stay up there.

Two guys come out of the from where the top of the hill on the trail is and if we're in full camo and stuff like this and I said, hey, you know how much farther to the peak?

And he said you won't make it It's it's way too snowy.

Like we literally had to crawl on the trail because we're afraid we're going to walk off the edge.

So I was like, all right, you know obviously I'm not interested in that. So my one of my friends said,

well, hey, I'm just going to go around the corner and look.

So we're at this kind of rock apple cropping here.

And so I was like, all right, well, you know, we're going to turn around and leave in about 5 minutes.

So don't you don't fall off because we're going to leave in 5 minutes. So he goes around the corner and

so we're kind of waiting for him.

About 10 minutes goes by and I said, hey, you know, we got a phones don't work. So he comes walking around the

corner and he's like, Hey, did you see that guy that was walking in front of me just now? And I said, no, there was nobody

else like the two guys that we saw walk down the hill.

We saw him walk. So, so we was like, oh, I swear

there was a guy in front of me. So it was like, all right, so

either way, we're going to walk downhill.

So we start walking down the hill and we're on the top of this, this mountain essentially and walking down and it had gotten ice on trails. So we're kind of walking off the

trail in the in a brush, so you know, you wouldn't slip.

And so you've got this trail that's completely has this light glazing of ice. And so we're all walking and all

of a sudden there's a couple rocks that just come out of the tree line and bounced down the path on the ice.

And I was like, wow. OK, so I'm looking around at my

friends and they're all just basically trying not to fall.

So we're walking very cautiously.

So I'm thinking, oh, my friend must have kicked up some rocks behind us and it, you know, kind of skated down the trail.

So this so I didn't think anything of it.

They're they're both behind me. So walk a little further and

sure enough, same thing. Rocks come skipping down the

trail. So I look back and I'm like,

hey, what are you trying to make me fall?

You know, like, you know, quit throwing these rocks are size of golf balls. And my friend looks at me.

He's like, what are you talking about?

So then we stop and I'm kind of looking around and that's kind of when I noticed like you don't hear anything.

Like we were ready after we got into the tree line again and it was dead silent. And we've got about an hour walk

down this thing and we're trying to, again, try not to fall on this ice. So I don't see anything.

I get kind of a little freaked out inside and I says we're walking down, keep getting these rocks thrown at us for about 15 minutes. And they kind of start noticing

after I brought it up. But I didn't, you know, I mean,

what are you going to do, run? I like, I can't.

I'm not. You know I'm not going to.

Right, Right. Yeah.

So so we just keep working our way down and as we work our way down, there was a a guy that worked for the Park Service that was walking up making sure everybody was off the trail.

And I got to ran into him and said, Hey, be careful.

You know, somebody's throwing rock sets up there and he's like, oh, is there somebody else behind you guys?

I'm like, I don't think so, but it's kind of where we're getting rocks thrown at us out of the woods.

I don't know who would walk off the trail just to do that.

So that's my Bigfoot story. Didn't see anything, wasn't

looking to see anything. You just you just assumed that

was a big. That it was.

Hanging out in Colorado. His hand or something that was

throwing rocks at us. You know, do you think that the

Bigfoot is a is a single being or is a a race of beings?

I think Bigfoot is an alien created being that is a worker bee from a long time ago, back when they built the pyramids and everything. I think Bigfoot's as slaves

built the pyramids for their alien gods.

But not one person. There's there's multiple

Bigfoot. No, no, no.

There's a whole race of race of Bigfoot, multiple Bigfoot, Bigfoot clowns. Basically Bigfoot clowns built

the pyramids for the Nephilim, which are coming on a spaceship here in the next year or two. That asteroid that just flew

around the sun that they're talking about dying it all together. Well, that concludes this first

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