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"It's right there in the sweet spot, it is, it is is. It is Because if you look at the Honda CR-V, which is again another small SUV that's considered a competitor, it's $30,100. The Nissan Rogue you don't hear much about that anymore, but it's $29,230."
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Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast From the Sugar Shack Studios in Houston, texas, usa.
It's the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
Just ahead it's Car Recalls and the Hemmings Sold Car Game Show.
All right.
Jeff has the crews in and events calendars and Mr Mars is going to do his car review right out at the top of the box here, so hope you'll stay tuned for that Howdy, along with Mike out of this world, mars.
We always need more.
Jeff Zekin, I'm Don Armstrong.
Thanks so much for joining us on this cold and rainy Saturday here, and if you're looking for us at Gulf Coast Auto Shield's Car Social, we're not there.
Because it was postponed until January the 11th because of the bad weather that was moving in.
Yesterday afternoon was just fine, no big deal.
No, yesterday was too windy for me.
Still a little chilly.
You need a back rubber we started getting a little drizzle late yesterday afternoon.
Drizzly, yeah, we started getting a little drizzle late yesterday afternoon Drizzly.
Yeah, we didn't Didn't get any hard rain until this morning on the way over here, but it came in a little bit earlier.
Mars lives real close to the Louisiana border, which is a long way from here, isn't it Depends on how you drive, when we know how you drive, so it's not quite so far.
How many tickets have you gotten lately?
Lately Define your term for lately, lately in the past three years how many tickets.
Zero, really, yes, you talked your way out of them, or what?
Well, I've been very lucky and I have a wife that's insistent that I stop doing some of the things I do.
And she helps me Like the on-ramp acceleration tests that I do when she's not with me because I can't.
She doesn't take good notes.
Yeah, especially when you're leaning up against the door, smashed up against the door, trying to go around a corner too fast.
Yeah, you're screaming and tearing Screaming is the problem.
It messes up the audio.
I know you can't hear the radio with all the screaming going on.
So let's do this car review.
So we're talking about the 2025 Subaru.
No, not we, you.
I am talking about the 2025 Subaru Outback Touring XT.
Now, this is the Subaru.
It's been around quite some time.
This particular model, the Outback, is one of the larger ones.
It comes in nine available trim levels, so we're not going to go through all of them, but there is a base model and it goes up to the Touring XT at the top of the line, which is what we just happen to be driving Now.
This is considered a small SUV, five passenger and on the outside of it, you're going to find a lot of things that you expect from a vehicle of Subaru's caliber.
That's kind of focused on getting people through bad weather, bad road conditions and things.
So you've got LED fog lights, led headlights that are steering responsive.
They also have the auto off and on.
It's got a lot of satin chrome that is on this, like on the side, folding mirrors that are heated and retractable, the roof rails that are very usable in this vehicle.
They've got a retractable crossbars and, because this vehicle isn't so tall as some of the other SUVs that are out there, you can actually put stuff up on it while you're standing on the ground.
You don't need a ladder Now.
It's got the hands-free power lift gate.
In the back of it it's got a power moonroof and it rolls on some nice 18-inch alloy wheels.
Now you get inside of it.
It's got a power moonroof and it rolls on some nice 18 inch alloy wheels.
Now you get inside of it because this is the upper trim level.
We've got a napa, leather trim seating surfaces and, uh does have the subaru starlink 11.6
inch multimedia with navigation monitor in it.
So it's got plenty of napa leather.
Does that also come with a bottle of wine, or should?
How does that when they ship it in?
that's where they ship it in.
They get the leather from all the cows that are eating all the grapes that are out there, so it does have lots of.
It's got four USB ports in it.
The front seats are heated and ventilated seats, while the second row it's the outboard seating areas only Are the ones that are heated.
Now it does have the front view monitor.
So again, this is kind of centric to going off-road, light off-road.
You probably do some rock climbing if you wanted to in it, because it does have over eight inches of clearance in it got a rear view camera.
It's got a rear seat reminder in it, retractable cargo cover so that when you put stuff in the back of it it's out of sight, out of mind.
If they can't see it, they're not going to want to break into it.
And it comes with a harman kardon audio on it.
Now, up under the hood, since this is the larger trim level of the upper trim level, it's got a 2.4
liter, 2.4
liter turbo boxer type engine.
So it's still the flat engine, but it's got the turbo on it.
It's backed by a cvt that's got an eight speed manual setting on it for shift mode.
So if you get out into the mud or someplace where you really want to have a little more control.
You can kick it over there and and it'll respond like it's a eight-speed manual transmission instead of the cvt.
This vehicle only weighs 3641 pounds, so it's not that heavy, but it will tow 2700 pounds.
Now the epa says you should be looking for about 22 in the city on the highway, 29 combined, 25.
Now.
I drove this car 345.8
miles and got 24.7
across.
That not bad.
And I really enjoyed driving this vehicle because even with it's got the four-wheel independent suspension on it and it is raised so it gets the 8.7
inch clearance, but it gives the the suspension a lot of travel in there.
So when you hit the bumps and stuff it absorbs a lot, but it gives the suspension a lot of travel in there.
So when you hit the bumps and stuff, it absorbs a lot of things on the road a lot better.
And it was really a nice, comfortable drive.
Like driving Grandpa's Deuce and a Quarter down the highway, something like that, oh yeah.
It was surprisingly compliant, but it was firm.
You felt confident in what you were doing.
Now the base model on the Outback is at 28 895, so it's it's kind of down in there.
But since we were at the number nine trim level up there the base trim price starts at 42 795.
Had a couple of little options, had some destination fees.
Msrp is tested.
It's 44 331.
It's right there in the sweet spot, it is, it is is.
It is Because if you look at the Honda CR-V, which is again another small SUV that's considered a competitor, it's $30,100.
The Nissan Rogue you don't hear much about that anymore, but it's $29,230.
Or the Toyota RAV4, $30,245.
They're all small SUVs.
They've got a little bit of off-road ability about them as far as getting into mud or gravel or something like that, without getting out in there too serious.
So if you're looking for something in that category, the Subaru is obviously one you need to look at, and that's my review Very good Of the 2025 Subaru.
Outback.
Speaking of Subaru, for the second time in four years led Consumer Reports annual brand report card, as domestic automakers struggled in a ranking that measures factors including vehicle performance, safety and reliability.
The 25 report card, issued about two months earlier than usual, is part of an updated data set released by Consumer Reports that packages all of its automotive rankings in one spot.
The outlet, on December 5th, also issued the 25 list of most reliable brands, which Subaru topped as well.
So here are the top 10.
You ready 10, Infiniti 9, Toyota 8, Hyundai 7, Kia 6, Audi Kind of surprising.
5, Honda Six.
Audi Kind of surprising.
Yeah, Five Honda Four Porsche, Three Lexus, Two BMW, One Subaru.
That's the brand report card.
And, by the way, at the bottom of the list is Jeep.
Oh.
Well.
Most reliable new vehicle brands top 10.
Okay, hyundai is 10.
Kia, 9.
Bmw, 8.
Audi, 7.
Mazda, 6.
Acura, 5.
Honda, 4.
Toyota, 3.
Lexus, 2.
Subaru 1.
Toyota, three Lexus, two Subaru one.
Very good Consumer Reports said conventional hybrids, which do not plug in to recharge and run both an internal combustion engine and an electric motor, are the most reliable type of electrified vehicle.
The outlet found that conventional hybrids have roughly the same rate of problems as gasoline-only models, despite being more complicated to build.
Plug-in hybrids, however, have 70% more problems on average, while EVs themselves have 42% more.
So I just thought that that was interesting and it kind of tied into your car review, mr Morris.
You're welcome.
Speaking of Consumer Reports our listeners.
If they go to ConsumerReportsorg and type in In Wheel Time, they can get a discount on a subscription.
Is it 10%?
I believe it's 10% or $10.
$10?
Do it, do it.
Yeah, just find out Go.
They sent me a thing to subscribe to Consumer Reports and I didn't use that Stupid me.
What do I know?
Clearly nothing.
Apparently not.
We can't get him in the shot.
You're going to have to adjust the shot.
Well, I think he's going to have to come around over to here.
We'll put him next to me and then you get out of the shot.
Why don't you all just share a chair yeah?
I was going to put him on my lap, but he shook his head no, no he didn Come around here Do you want booze.
Booze and food, Food and booze.
We got food.
David Ainsley, our chief engineer, has joined us.
He was going to join us on the remote broadcast today, but since we're having food and beverages after the broadcast today, David came to join us and we appreciate you driving up from Friendswood today.
Yeah, and the ladies' auxiliary in real time ladies' auxiliary should be here.
Yeah, did you go through the house or did you come through the gate?
Gate, gate.
Yeah, well, at any rate, and Kyle just got accepted to UT Arlington today.
Really Yay, congratulations.
So it's a great day at the.
Ainsley household.
Yep and I'm stopping to rob a bank on the way home.
Let's not even go there.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Well, they say that if you borrow, if you get a loan from the bank, put in a 30-year loan, you got 30 years to pay it, but if you rob the bank, you can get out in 10 years.
Better yet rob the armored car At an HEB At an HEB and walk away with a sack full of cash, which is a quarter mile away from the police station.
I still I'm puzzled about that one.
He just walked up and grabbed a I don't get it.
I don't know about all that, but Whatever Shots fired Kind of like what they used to do with cars when they were charging these interest rates, exactly, but now it's all Stellantis recalling 317,630 Ram trucks because of a problem with a brake hydraulic control unit.
The unit may fail or malfunction, affecting the anti-lock brake system and traction control, increasing the risk of a crash.
The recall includes the 2017 and 2018 Ram heavy duties, the 2500, 3500, 4500, and 5500.
That, according to NHTSA documents, 100% of affected vehicles have the defect.
Oops.
That way you don't have to worry about it.
If you got one, you got the defect.
If you got it, you got it.
Yeah, it's kind of like a I'm not even going to go there.
Yeah, it won't rub off.
My mind went in a completely different direction, but you can only imagine what that was.
It's because David's here Glass sunroof panel made detach on the Mercedes-Benz Pretty much everything known to man it is.
I mean, look at the size of that list right here.
Look at that, look at the size of that thing.
What is that?
two dozen vehicles.
Mercedes-Benz, you got a.
Mercedes-Benz.
Go to safercargov, type in your VIN number and it will tell you.
Glass roof panel made detach, martha.
There's a hole up there on top of the head up here.
What happened to that glass?
That's up there, martha.
Where are you?
It's lodged in the truck behind us.
Steering intermediate shaft may fracture.
We hate fractured shafts don't we?
I might, yeah, Mars go ahead.
My, my, my, my.
Toyota Corolla and Corolla Hybrid, 23 to 24 being recalled.
Hyundai Elantras and Santa Fe's 21 to 22 models.
Rear view image may not display.
We talked about that with Jack Engine stall from software era.
Honda CRF1100.
Is that a motorcycle?
I don't know what that is.
Yes, it is Tesla Model Y for 24.
Front seat, back recliners improperly welded and Porsche Macon electric 24 to 25 headlights are too bright.
Power surge.
Headlights are too bright.
Most of them are these days.
I don't write it.
David, how have you been Doing good.
How are things with your radio station group?
Everything is good.
Had a nice holiday.
You know, no calls everything better, everything's working that's good.
Well, it's only taking you what?
Half a year to get all that straightened out.
Now, a year and a half, oh, a year and a half, my paul he forgot the first year.
He can't think back that far no, I can't, he can't think about yesterday.
That's exactly right.
We pulled this off this morning.
Yeah, we did Somehow, some way, and you know we did it really in record time.
I think you got here at 845.
Well yeah, I was right behind him, and Jeff was right behind him, and I put the whole studio back together because it was all piled up in Mar's truck.
So we did all this in an hour and 15 minutes, just by the hair of our chin.
We had three minutes.
I didn't even break a nail.
Let's take a break and then we'll do some other fun stuff as we head up to the top of the hour.
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All right, mr Zekin has the cruise in and events calendar.
Yes, toys for Tots Car Show.
That's all coming about.
Every weekend there's a Toys for Tots, everybody's doing Toys for Tots.
But this is December 14th, next weekend.
I like tater tots.
Yep, I do too with chili.
Pasadena, texas.
From 10 am to 4 pm, the Open Car Show invites you to take whatever make or model you have.
There's going to be top 15 entries will receive awards.
It's a $20 entry or a $30 gift.
Whatever you want to do, either way they'll let you in.
50-50 raffle will be held.
They got DJ bands, entertainment for the kids, all that good stuff.
That's at 6915 Spencer Highway in Passa, get Down Dena.
The next one is a holiday car show.
This one is set also for the 14th.
It goes from 1 to 4 pm.
The Brazos Port High School Student Parking Lot located at 1800 West 2nd Street in Freeport.
Now we're going to give Freeport a shout out, because we never really talk about Freeport.
So there you go.
Car enthusiasts are welcome, bring their vehicle.
You got Nifty Garage.
Via Facebook or Instagram you can go and register there.
$25 for the car.
It is at 1800 West 2nd Street in Freeport, texas.
And then Sunday.
After that Sunday, sunday Sunday, which is the 15th, you've got the Christmas is Coming, car Show it is on the 15th.
It's going to be at 2620 Pearland Parkway in Pasadena, texas, again from 9 am to 3 pm.
Yeah, and while we talked about the, you had Don's picture up there.
Yeah, and while we talked about the, he had Don's picture up there.
Christmas toys for tots.
You know we didn't get to go to Gulf Coast Auto Shield today, right, but one of the things they were going to do Was have the toy drive when if you brought a wrapped toy I mean an unwrapped toy, new you could register for a free paint seal treatment From ceramic Ceramic coating yeah.
But they're still Going to do that.
If you want to Take a new Unwrapped toy by Gulf Coast Auto Shield, drop it off Up until December the 18th.
Then all the people that bring that by, they're going to Donate the toys.
But they're going to Take all those Registrations and they'll have a drawing and at the event On and have the toys for tots.
To help out with that and still get the ceramic coating on the car.
And if you want to, I mean take your Hooptie up there and register it, and I guess that they'll try to work their magic on that.
That's possible.
Even if you don't win, you can still get an estimate on what it would cost, absolutely.
Check it out and see what they got.
If you've never been there, it's a pretty impressive place.
Do you have any hoopties in your?
garage.
I've got a lot of stuff in my garage, but no hooptie.
You don't have any hoopties.
No, you got any hoopties.
David, well, if I had a microphone?
It doesn't work, it doesn't work.
It works just fine.
It's a little closer to you.
There you go.
Yeah, I've.
I had to plug you up this morning.
I don't have a David cam.
I had to plug you up this morning and that's one of those channels that I haven't used very often, and so it's good.
Yeah Kind of thing Needs a little cleaning.
No hoopties, but I got an 03, so Is that a classic after 25 years?
That's my question.
Will be after 25 years.
So what does that mean?
What do I to do?
that it means that you're old.
Older.
Well, you could be a young person and buy a classic.
That's why I didn't do that and you get a state inspection.
No yeah.
There's no benefit other than saying classic car.
Got it.
Yeah, you get a special license plate.
You might get a break on your insurance, depending on how many miles you drive it Because you don't drive it to work every day, things like that.
You can get a cut on it.
Okay, I'm going to make that call.
Okay, I'll bet.
I changed insurance agents here recently.
My old insurance agent I was in the Allstate forever sold his agency and retired Okay, well, he, the Allstate forever Sold his agency and retired.
Okay, he was out in Katy.
Katy, I'm not going to go off that, whatever.
So I found somebody over here.
You don't have to go there, I know that, but I want somebody.
If I want to change, I want somebody that's close by so I can go up there and harass them.
Yeah, I'm going to there and harass them.
Yeah, my agent died a few years ago, a different agent took over his place, but the girls that work in that office, at that office.
Are still there.
They're still there, and that's who I call.
They know anything and everything I want and they take care of it.
Okay, mine's right over here, not very far from here.
Mine is too.
It's right, it's up on 59.
It's good.
I'm a state farm guy Are you, mm-hmm?
What is your carrier?
Texas Farm Bureau.
Texas Farm Bureau and they're in Anahuac.
Anahuac, anahuac.
Where's Anahuac, mike, between here and there, closer to the coast, who are you with David Progressive Are you?
Yeah.
How's that working out for you?
Has it been good?
Really, yeah, no claims, you don't have any problems with progress, that's right.
No claims.
Yeah, we got the whole bundle thing.
You know the house the cars, the boats and the planes, all that stuff.
The trains, the planes, the planes, all that stuff the planes, the planes, the trains, automobiles, all right, it's the boats that are on that lake out in front of his house.
Watch them.
That's it, oh Lord.
Speaking of boats, is your boat taken care of up in the UP?
Oh, yeah, okay, because it's got like 800 feet of snow up there, awesome yeah.
I guess that the lake is all frozen over.
Oh yeah, the lake will never totally freeze.
Is it Huron?
No it doesn't what lake, is it Huron, huron?
Yeah Well, I'm thinking of Superior.
I was on the Marquette side.
Well, in the middle of a lake have their summer occupation and things go south.
We're down here, oh yeah.
Around October they start butting that place up, Except for the one guy that runs the marina up there.
He's there all year long.
He is and he takes his ice buggy across the lake to get to work.
Yeah, he's got a hovercraft, he's got two.
Yeah, do you ever talk to him about how bad it is up there when the wind is a howling and it's like 20 below?
Yeah, what is it?
But you've never been there.
You didn't go at least once just to see.
I got pictures.
I'm going to put my jacket on after this conversation.
I'd like to go.
I just haven't been, yeah Well.
I would imagine that it would be a little bit difficult.
Well, I would imagine that it would be a little bit.
Well, maybe not difficult to get there.
Well, not across the lake where you are, but on the mainland.
Yeah, it's.
You know Touchy Well, two lane roads, so I'm assuming they keep it clear.
Well, you got your team of dogs list dogs team and pretty much emotion.
No, but it did a ride, obviously spending some time up there a year and a half ago.
It's beautiful and it's a beautiful town, cedarville, cedarville.
And I mean, they've got year-round residences in Cedarville.
Now they've got a school there, k through 12 in one building.
There you go.
Yeah, I don't know what you would do in the wintertime up there.
They snowmobile and they go.
But I mean to make a living.
Oh, I guess you'll work at the grocery store or the bar.
Yeah, the bar or a snow shoveling business.
Yeah, there's that Snowmobile.
Snow machine repair.
We missed our Hemings Sold Car Weekly run.
I was going to do that with David too, yeah come on man.
Okay, here's one 1955 Cadillac Coupe DeVille, two-door, jeff, how much?
46.
46?
It's clean, it looks completely stock.
You say 22.
What do you say, david?
30.
, 30.
How about 24.5
?
That would be a car to have past that day.
How about this one?
I think John Hovis has got one similar to this, a 1953 Dodge Power Wagon.
Oh yeah, truck pickup truck.
Yeah, he does have one, a 53 Dodge Power Wagon.
What do you think that's sold for?
It looks like.
The brand is what it looks like.
It looks basically original.
Yeah, what do you think?
I'm going to go 26.
I was going to go 26.
I was going to go 27.
Okay, how about 32.5
?
I was going to say 35.
32.5
.
Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to leave you out.
You left me out.
I did 67 Pontiac.
GTO.
Looks all original.
I don't know about the paint it looks brand new 67 Pontiac GTO oh man, I say 32.
25.
I was going to say 25.
, okay, 28.
68, 250.
Whoa, that was my second guess no, it's all original, I'm telling you yeah but it's got to have three deuces or something else in it to push it up like that.
I don't know.
You can't tell that from the picture, you got a goat.
Hey, we'd love to hear from you.
Shoot us an email info at inwheeltimecom.
Quick break, we'll be back after this.
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The award-winning In-Wheel Time Car Talk Show brings you great guest interviews each week, from manufacturers and suppliers to the aftermarket, racers, enthusiasts and other friends just like you and me who love to talk about all things automotive.
The In-Wheel Time Car Talk Show takes it to the road too, with remotes at popular cruise-ins and shows.
In Real Time's live video and audio stream can be found on the Odyssey Radio app, youtube, facebook and InRealTimecom every Saturday 10 to noon Central Time, or grab a podcast anytime from your favorite podcast provider.
Oh, I got too many microphones to turn on here.
Well, that's all for this week's In Real Time Car Talk Show.
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And when you're looking for award-winning car talk, you can find the In Real Time Car Talk Show 24-7 on the In Real Time app.
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The InRealTime video technical director is we need more Jazzy.
Jeff Seacon, the booking agent, video editor and people finder, mike out of this world, mars, the chief engineer, david Ainsley.
I'm Don Armstrong.
We hope you join us again next week for a live show coming to you from the Car Shack in Texas, USA, 10 to noon Central Time.
A shout-out to Marge Adams and her keeper Lori.
Thank you very much for watching and for all of you.
Also, best wishes to George and Twyla Skelton.
We love you guys.
Thank you all.
Be safe out there and have yourself a great week.
That's it for this podcast episode of the In Wheel Time Car Show.
I'm Don Armstrong, inviting you to join us for our live show every Saturday morning on Facebook, youtube, twitch and our InWheelTimecom website.
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