The latest In Wheel Time Podcast dives into the ongoing UAW strike, highlighting Ford's significant worker stoppages and the financial implications of the strike on the automotive industry. UAW President Sean Fane's strategies and demands, including a 40% wage increase, are discussed alongside the potential fallout for suppliers. The episode also features Randy Bortcharding from Paint House, who shares insights on custom car building, the challenges of working in extreme heat, and the importance of meticulous prep work in painting. The conversation touches on various projects, including a Ranchero and El Camino, and ends with a segment debunking common tire myths.
Get ready to unravel some of the chaos surrounding the UAW strike and its impact on major automobile giants like Ford, General Motors, and Stallantis in our latest installment. We try to understand the massive financial implications linked with stopping production at Ford's Kentucky plant, generating a whopping $25 billion annually. We’ll also shed light on the precarious situation of smaller suppliers grappling with the sudden pause on 'just in time inventory', and the looming threat of layoffs. And, if that's not enough, could Ford could shift all its manufacturing to Mexico as a potential countermeasure to the strike?
In the latter half of the show, we have the pleasure of hosting Randy Borcharding, the mastermind behind Painthouse, a custom car building enterprise. Randy will share his insights on the finesse required in painting cars, along with the necessity of safeguarding metal from rust before painting. We'll also unpack the distinct nuances of vehicles like the 65 El Camino and the intriguing prospect of a two-door Malibu wagon.
In our feature segment, we’ll debunk some common myths about car tires, explore the advent of airless tire technology, and discuss the significance of specialized tires designed for electric vehicles. With so much to learn, you wouldn't want to miss a minute!
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Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast, a 30 minute mini version of the In Wheel Time car show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11 am, central From the Sugar Shack Studios in Texas, usa.
It is the In Wheel Time car talk show Coming up.
Randy Bortcharding paint house he's going to be with us.
Jeff has a segment on debunking the 7 biggest myths about car tires, conrad has the racing calendar and the car clinic, and later we'll have the stories making automotive news headlines.
Just ahead on this fresh edition of the In Wheel Time car talk show, howdy, along with Mike out of this World, mars.
Where is he?
We always need more Jeff Zekin.
I'm Don Armstrong, we have our glasses.
We are ready for today's Eclipse.
Well, I'm glad you pronounced that right.
That could go really wrong real fast Right off the bat.
I have a feeling it's going to be one of those kind of shows, don't you?
When do we take?
these off.
I can't see they're all one of those kind of shows.
Well, they are in a way.
Yes, they are.
We can take our glasses off now, because I have to tell you I don't know I might be better off to keep them.
Maybe that's the other show goes.
Randy's going.
What are these guys doing?
We can't help ourselves.
Put your glasses on Randy.
Randy, do you have glasses?
Yeah, he's got them on.
You got them.
Not those glasses, I'm talking about your Eclipse glasses.
Oh no, I don't see we got welding shields for welding shields Okay we'll do that next time.
All right, Well, anyway, thank you for being with us this morning and we're going to yeah, we're going to do that.
I didn't want to start off with UAW news.
Ford now has more workers on strike than General Motors and Stalantis, even though it is offered the highest bay among the three automakers.
The escalating work stoppage, which began September 15th was meant to keep Ford Motor Company, General Motors and Stalantis off balance, but UAW President Sean Fane said the companies had grown complacent with his regular cadence of weekly updates.
That's why Fane played one of his biggest remaining cards last week, abruptly shutting down Ford's largest and most profitable assembly operation, the Kentucky truck plant in Louisville.
Halting output from Kentucky truck carries huge financial consequences for Ford.
The plant generates roughly $25 billion in annual revenue.
Wow, With get this 1,700 hourly workers building super duty pickups and two large SUVs the expedition and the Lincoln navigator.
Ow 1,070.
So I'm going to destroy the companies I work for.
Pretty much that's his intent.
Yeah, that make it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, Nope.
So at what point do you say you know, I think that we're just going to build it all in Mexico.
Build it all.
Yeah, well that would be Ford's answer.
I guess there was their answer.
That's why they shut the Kentucky truck plant down.
So there was also talk that the strike would have leaning toward ending by last week, by actually Friday.
There was rumors that it could happen.
I know we talked about it but it didn't happen.
Well, ford had made some pretty significant concessions at a level that would have been very detrimental to both GM and Stellantis, and the UAW still didn't take them.
You know Ford understands how, to my opinion, play the game much better than GM and Stellantis does.
So, yeah, ford gave in with some pretty good concessions and in the UAW said, yep, not enough, we want more.
Yeah, what?
are they asking for A 40% raise?
Yeah, 40%.
Well, remember a 40% raise and a 32 hour 20% reduction in the work week yeah, it's a lot, which I think I said this last week only means that they're still going to work the same amount of hours, just they're going to get an extra eight hours of overtime, right?
Oh that's going to raise the price of everything.
Yeah, everything.
And I've got a follow up story that I'll read later on about the fallout with all of the suppliers, because they're starting now to really start to lay off.
Used to.
There was a thousand seven employees on strike.
No.
At the Kentucky plant, at the Kentucky plant, at the Kentucky plant 8,700 hourly workers yeah, that's right, oh my bad.
8,000 at the Kentucky plant.
He's doing the calculations on it.
Well, I was just thinking.
If it's a hundred dollar an hour loaded rate, you know insurance and wages that means the company is actually not spending 800,700 dollars per hour.
They're actually putting that in their pocket, even though they're not making cars.
I got it, I understand that, but they're saving $800,000 an hour.
And I believe that plant's two shift plant, it's not a three shift plant, it's a two shift plant.
Wow, so they're running 16 hours a day.
Yeah, I that I don't know.
There's so many things that are involved in one worker at one plant.
You just don't know what all is involved in building a truck, in this case About 12 million dollars a day.
They're not spending.
I understand what you're saying but, like I've said, it's not just the workers at the factory, it is also all of the workers, downstream or upstream, if you will right Because of just in time inventory.
So all of those tier one, tier two and tier three vendors that are delivering product our product to the assembly plant for production, they're all going to go out of business as well, or?
That's like layoff.
Straight?
Yeah, because those guys run on much tighter margins.
And they're the ones that are hurting.
And most of them tier two.
Tier three are not UAW.
Tier one, a lot of tier one, but it doesn't make any difference.
Yeah, they're not building cars.
Well, at any rate, we'll talk about more of that later on in the show or throughout the show.
Let me put it that way we got three hours coming your way and we're going to start this morning's conversation with Randy Bortcharding, who owns a company called Paint House, and it's a very high end custom car builder, maker, painter, fixer, fabricator, do all.
How did that?
How was that?
Have you ever been?
called a do all.
Can you put all of that on a business card?
You're going to need a bigger wallet.
Yeah, I had a bigger wallet.
Yeah.
How about the business cards in?
How are you?
Oh, we're fine, I'm enjoying this weather.
Thank God it finally got here.
Yeah, amen to that.
Does it impact.
Does it impact?
I know it impacts just the technicians work in the shop.
Does it impact your ability to paint the high ambient temperatures?
Absolutely.
You got a recent.
Thank God I live on the property because I'll come out and paint at one, two, three in the morning, versus in a hundred and fifteen hundred and twenty degrees in the booth, and even then it's still back.
Over the course of the summer it was 95 at night time.
Yes, it never cooled off, that's correct.
So it was just less of a bad thing is what it became and you just deal with it.
You know they've got special reducers and things that help you.
Randy, how often are you in the paint booth on a week?
Some weeks not at all, To do an actual paint job on a project.
We're not a production shop, so that might happen once every three or four months.
However, there's always lots of other things to spray Primers, sealers.
That happens way more than painting does, but I guess it's part of the Part of painting spraying a product and those can be trickier than the actual color and clear coat.
Because of their solid contents they don't like the heat, they don't behave well.
So just for those that don't know, I mean what you're talking about is beyond a primer on the body.
You're talking about a primer filler kind of deal sealer, correct?
You've got primers.
Primers that like we use an epoxy primer on the bare metal.
That's our foundation, Right, it's not so heat sensitive.
But when you get into the thicker primer fillers primer surfacer is that you would block sand to smooth the body because they're so high in solids when it's so hot and humid.
You really got to know how to handle the chemistry so that you don't get into solvent popping and trapping and things that can wreak havoc later on in the paint job.
You may not see it right away, it may show up later and then you got a real problem that's very expensive to fix.
Do you have that happen to you every once in a while?
Oh, once in a while.
Yeah, it does.
Yeah, you follow all the rules and still you get a curve ball every now and then, and it's not inexpensive, Particularly at this.
You know sort of this level of the game, if that's the right way to put it.
No, well, yeah for you.
I mean, you are definitely top tier Battle of the Builders winner at SEMA.
You know you're recognized not only by the local people who know who you are and what you do.
You're recognized by industry leaders for who you are and what you do and the quality of work that you do.
Yeah, I appreciate you saying that it's.
It's my guys.
You know we have a great team here.
How many guys you have in there.
Myself and three others.
There were four.
We recently had a fellow leave and go back to his former career in the in the diesel industry.
So if there's someone out there looking, I'd love to hire the right person.
It's just hard to find that that good fit.
Randy Jen's involved in this, isn't she?
Yeah, she handles a lot of the bookkeeping and the stuff that keeps us in business the paint prep, putting the money in the bank when it comes in and making sure it goes to the right people when it goes out.
Yeah, and getting insurance and the stuff I don't want to do and I'm not good at doing yeah, that's the necessity.
So she's actually part of the team too.
Oh indeed, yeah, indeed, yeah, so in that sense there's four of us.
Well, let's talk just for a minute about the prep.
You know, we hear all the time and we kind of touched on it just a minute ago we hear all the time that it's all in the prep.
It's kind of like going for a colonoscopy, kind of oh Lord, in a bizarre way, maybe truly bizarre, yeah, but it's true in the sense that it's not True in the sense that these cars can be a pain in the ass.
Well, oh but it's a good one.
But it truly is.
It really starts with the actual primer on the bare metal.
Because if you don't have that Contact, that adherence from the primer to the metal, the whole thing could go south real quick.
Absolutely that.
That step, that first cleaning of the metal, prepping of the metal and the product that goes on the metal.
If that's not right, none of the rest of it matters.
Yeah, ask anybody who owns a white Chevrolet pickup truck or van through the years, where the paint just peels off Big chunks.
In the 80s, early 90s.
Oh yeah, randy, do you take them all down to bare metal?
Yes, just so that you get everything.
We occasionally paint over existing products, particularly if it's a repair of some kind.
However, almost every time we get bitten in the in the arse by some problems, some hidden problems, some unknown problem that would have been corrected had we stripped the area.
So so tell us about your affection for Rancheros, because I see another one behind you.
I know you had a, was it was that a 70 that you took to a SEMA a couple of years ago 71 went to SEMA.
This is a 72, which was the change in the body style to the Starsky and Hutch front end.
If you will, this is a we'll call it a survivor, a patina car or truck.
Whatever.
Is it a car or a truck?
We don't know.
Whatever you want it to be 351 Cleveland, the four barrel version it's.
This is a Ranchero GT, so it had the, the higher end engine, the four speed positive traction, rear, no air conditioning.
It was a neat package.
And the reflective stripes.
The reflective stripes.
Just it's a.
It's a interesting car truck.
Whatever it is, it's going to be fun, but we've kept the original finish on it.
We'll just polish it up.
The engine's been gone through, just added a mild little sound system to the interior.
Rewiring the car, just getting the foundation reestablished and then it's just going to be a fun driver.
Randy, when you paint these cars, we would just use that one as an example.
How do you get into where the door meets, the jam up there where the fender, the interconnection there between the fender and the door, how do you paint?
That Do you paint it with the doors off.
Absolutely.
We always paint the vehicle taken apart.
Okay.
Do you take the fender?
Is that the same holds true with the fenders?
I mean, you take the fenders off and paint them separately too.
Yeah, yes, sir, I'll walk you over here and show you so you'll see the pieces here.
We've got doors, fenders.
This is 68 Cutlass we're doing Right.
They're off the car.
We'll walk over here to where the car is.
It's a little crowded at the moment.
Well, what about the?
bolts.
Do you paint the bolts too, or no?
Oh, no, no, no.
Everything, everything is done apart.
So there's no bolts involved.
For example, this one we've replaced that quarter panel.
We've got the car in epoxy primer.
This is the foundational primer that we talked about.
It's on a Morrison chassis.
On top of this primer is where everything happens the bodywork that will happen, the priming, the block sanding.
Any time we break through and expose metal again, that epoxy primer is reapplied in that area.
So we do it the same day, literally within minutes, if we can.
I do not want to let any rust or humidity start.
Oh yeah, in Houston humidity is so damaging to vehicles and paint systems.
I said that incorrectly.
You can't stop the humidity from starting it started.
You just don't want the rust to start because there's wet air floating around it, literally in our climate.
Yeah.
So we are excuse the reference again.
We are anal about keeping the metal protected from day one.
Okay, so what other cars do you have in there besides the Ranchero?
Well, this cutlass.
Obviously we've previously seen a El Camino that I'll walk over to, so it's kind of Chevy's version of the car truck.
By the way, while you're walking over there, I have to ask you you are going to SEMA, aren't?
you, I am not this year.
I'm skipping it Really.
Telling where you're going.
And why is that?
Well, the car we had planned to take is not making it out of a Pulsary Jail and it would probably be here at the last minute and I'm not in the mood for a week of all-nighters just to get to a show.
I've done that.
It's proven to be a good thing, but I'm 57 years old and I don't want to do it anymore.
Well, I don't blame you.
So we're going to skip and we'll go next year.
We should have three cars available next year Hopefully they'll all get to go and we're going to go to the best-named state in the Union, idaho, and hang out with a customer friend who has a beautiful property up there.
I'm taking the guys from the shop and my two sons and just going to do a boy's trip and do whatever boys do in Idaho.
Hunt and camp and fish Fish.
All of that.
And a little brown water.
Or a lot of brown water.
Little hiking Indeed, indeed, so is that a 64 or 65 El Camino 65.
It's also on a Morrison chassis.
We've had the hood modified and it'll have some custom inserts which sort of emulates what was in the 67 SS hoods.
But it never came on this body style, so it'll be an interesting effect.
Hope we look kind of OEM, but people may look at it and go was that like that or not?
I don't remember seeing that before.
That's what they think that's always.
My goal is to do something that makes you think twice or come back a second or third time to look at the car, but it doesn't ruin what's right about the car.
Well, I'm going to start searching for you a Chevelle, two door wagon and see if I can't figure out where one of those are.
I want one.
That seems like it.
You used to be in the.
Galveston, but I haven't seen it in years.
I like those.
Is it kind of like the pie wagon.
Yeah, well, yeah, they were actually built by Chevrolet for the US Air Force and sold directly to the Air.
Force.
I've seen several of them in the hot rod world Pontiac, that's a nice two door Malibu wagons.
They're very cool.
Right.
Yeah, it's not a panel, it's got all the glass and everything.
Well, randy, it's always great to talk to you, my friend.
We thank you very much.
I have a question, though, randy.
Well, wait a minute.
Yeah, no you don't have time for a question.
You waited until the last second, then I'm going to send him a text Where's the Corvette?
I'm looking Where's the Corvette.
Are you done with?
that the 69.
Yeah, the blue one.
We are not done.
It's over in the other shop.
I was afraid the call would drop if I walked over there.
It's waiting to be wired.
That's its next goal, and then off to a post tree.
A post tree jail.
Well, hopefully not.
This one hasn't committed any crimes that I'm aware of, so it should not need to stay in jail.
I hope this thing's changed, though it's a fluid process.
Anybody else, have any other?
questions.
Mr Morris, no, no, I'm just going to ask him if he was taking three or four cars next year to SEMA, if he needed some help.
An additional crew but.
I'll ask him offline, since we don't have time to ask him right now, because you're going to have to probably glom on to something else to be able to go, because his truck's going to be full of cars.
Just saying I just thought maybe you needed somebody to help wipe him down when he got there, or something.
Yeah, if you're volunteering, we can talk.
Randy, we love you, man.
Thank you so much for joining us.
We appreciate you and hope to see you soon.
Yes, sir, thanks guys, Take care, thank you.
Bye-bye, randy Bortcharty.
It's always fun to talk.
I know Love talking to Randy.
Okay, time now for the In-Wheel Time Race Card, and the race card is sponsored by Texas Nostalgia Modified Production.
All right and racing is coming to an end.
Nhra is up in Ennis this weekend.
At the Texas Motor Speedway, no no at Ennis and Texas Motorplex Texas Motorplex thank you.
And then NASCAR is in Vegas this weekend, next weekend they're in Homestead, and then they're back in Martinsville, and then the finale on November 5th in Phoenix.
Formula One is in Cota next weekend.
Mexico on the 29th, mexico City on the 29th.
Brazil on 11-5.
Las Vegas on November 19th and that's the first time they'll race, and they're racing the streets of Las Vegas.
That should be pretty cool, but I think that's going to be an interesting play on how do they shut down the streets of Las Vegas and run 200 miles an hour down the strip or down the main street, whatever road.
They've got a lot of four lanes.
They've got a lot of four lanes.
I could see where they could do the speed, but, like you say, shutting it down could be an interesting trick, and then this weekend as well as the finale for IMSA and so with the Cadillac DPI cars and kind of the final run for the Corvette in IMSA as well, because that class is going away and it's going to be kind of.
Corvette.
The Corvette's moving to some other class or something.
Gt4.
There you go, there you go, but they're kind of going to be their swan song at IMSA.
Hopefully they can pull it off and win, but that's racing this week.
Cool.
So the way on television, nhra qualifying Sunday afternoon, beginning at noon on FS1.
And then the finals are following that at five on FS1 on Sunday.
No, not at five at three.
So it's at noon and then noon and two.
Whatever it's on FS one.
Go there if you dare.
I refuse to pay for it, so I'm not doing it.
Time now for Jeff's feature.
This week it's debunking seven myths about car tires seven myths.
You know they're.
I get this all the time.
What about this?
What about that?
Well, tires are one of the most important components of any vehicle, but plenty of passenger tires myths need debunking and All new tires come.
Are all new cars come with a spare tire?
Not necessarily.
It used to be standard practice for cars to come equipped with a spare tire, stored in the trunk.
Of course.
However, around one to One in every three car sold do not have a spare tire.
Instead of a spare, many cars come up with an emergency tire inflation kit containing sealant, air compressor and Temporary seal patches.
That's common practice nowadays.
So be careful.
If you're looking for one, ask your dealer.
The digits on the sidewall show tire pressure.
Well, not necessarily.
Some drivers mistakenly believe the series of digits molded in the sidewall of their tires indicate the correct inflation Pressure.
Not necessarily.
True sidewall digits actually provide the tire size specification, maximum inflation pressure rating, not the recommended pressure, tire pressure for your vehicles tire.
So be careful, do not read that and think, oh, that's what it needs to be, because it's not.
Look at the placard on your vehicle, look at the manual.
Call your dealer.
Call a tire store.
They'll be able to help you.
All season tires work in all conditions.
Don't be misled by the name.
All season tires are not optimized for year-round performance in every condition.
All season tires prevent a, provide decent traction across a range of conditions, similar to a Swiss Army knife a lot of other things going on with that tire build.
However, all season tread rubber stiffens dramatically, mike, so be careful.
I'm kind of wondering about that I kind of assume that's what all season it well it in optimum conditions.
Yeah, another myth debunked.
Tire performance does not depend on materials.
The quality and performance of a tire Depends on many complex factors, including a variety of materials used in the construction.
Modern passenger tires contain over 200 different raw ingredients Synthetics, natural rubber compounds, steel, nylon, silica, so on and so on, even black carbon.
That's where you get the blackness of the tire.
So there you go.
The next one to be debunked would be should you drive on flat tires?
Well, pneumatic tires all share a common enemy, and it's called the nail.
While it is true, you should not drive on a flat tire, that may no longer be a worthy cause.
Revolutionary airless tire technology from companies like Michelin and Goodyear Ames to eliminate flat tires and blowouts entirely.
Michelin up Michelin has an Uptis airless tire replacement, which is a flexible tire.
It's a thermal plastic spokes that absorb impacts.
This allows the tire to avoid typical punctures and maintaining a Good, smooth ride for the vehicle.
Hey, let me ask a question while you're talking about that Run flats.
A lot of cars come with run flat tire which are kind of an emergency.
You can run on a flat tire to get off the road for short distance.
Yeah, are they repairable?
A run flat like a regular tire is where you could patch up a hole in it.
You could probably do it once and maybe not get away with it for very long, but it's not really designed for that.
You could, you probably could.
I'll say a run flat.
Typically you should replace it.
You're right right Now, if you put a plug patch in, it actually lowers the the rating of the tire.
Every time you plug it it lowers it down on the spectrum.
So the next one would be passenger tires.
Are they the same as race car tires?
Are they similar?
If you think that tires on your Camry or F 150 resemble those of a formula one or an Ascar race car, think again.
High performance racing tires are engineered for maximum grip, speed and durability.
Pirelli, when I work for Pirelli, they always had the point of their engineering for the road came from racing.
Well, it is true, but they're not really the same.
So the last one to be debunked are EV tires, or EVs don't need special tires.
Well, they do, believe it or not.
Tesla and other electric vehicles require specialized tires developed specifically for their unique characteristics.
The heavy battery.
That's the whole impact of that Conrad.
The heavy battery, which means the EV more weight pressing down on the EV tires.
Evs also deliver instantaneous maximum torque to the wheels and increasing tire wear.
So there you have it.
It's another one of those things that doesn't get advertised with EVs Is some of those special things you got to worry about cost down brought that up too with the cost of it Not very long ago week or so.
Nine hundred dollars for one tire on an EV Tesla that had a flat All right.
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Houston's finest cars are invited to another Gulf Coast Auto Shield Car Social Saturday December 2nd, and you're invited too.
Show off your personal pride and joy, or just stop in to see the likes of Lucid Lamborghini, Porsche, Ferrari and more.
Gulf Coast Auto Shield is your one-stop shop for paint detailing, coatings, window tint, clear bras and wheel repair.
The Car Social is your opportunity to get a tour of this state-of-the-art facility located at 11275 South Sam Houston Parkway, just south of the Southwest Freeway.
It all takes place Saturday, December 2nd, 9 to noon.
This is the perfect opportunity to connect with other car enthusiasts, From BMWs to mentallys, Corvettes to McLarens.
The Car Social is a different kind of show.
Talk to the owners.
See Gulf Coast Auto Shield's facility.
You'll be amazed.
Put it on your calendar now the Gulf Coast Auto Shield Car Social Saturday, December 2nd, 9 to noon at 11275 South Sam Houston Parkway, just south of the Southwest Freeway.
The In Wheel Time Car Talk Show will be there too.
We'll see you then.
That's it for this podcast episode of the In Wheel Time Car Show.
I'm Don Armstrong, inviting you to join us for our live show every Saturday morning, 8 to 11 am, Central on Facebook, YouTube, Twitch and our InWheelTimecom website.
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