Veronica, Miami, and a stunt plane you’ve never heard of.

Welcome to Best in Class, the podcast where we talk about the best versions of the best

cars.

Thank you for joining me, Steve, and my new podcast buddy, Andrew, as we talk about our

favorite cars or the top of their game.

How's it going, Andrew?

It's going well.

We're back.

We are back.

Round two.

Did you get any feedback on round one?

All the love.

Really?

The audio levels should be a little better this one.

Okay.

All right.

Nobody liked our Adam tribute, by the way, so we're going to have to mention something

about him.

So before we jump into it, I want to introduce a new addition to our pod, Veronica.

What's up?

Long time motoring club member.

Yes.

Owner of a special car.

Yes.

Well seen.

What is it?

It's great to be here.

Can I first say that?

Are you excited?

I know you just want to get straight to the cars.

Yeah.

Well, you're a very private person.

You don't want to pry.

So that's where we got to.

Follow me on.

Yes.

You can say your Instagram handle.

No, no, not right now.

No, throw it in there.

Vern's 73 Scout.

Okay.

Which is the kind of car I have.

Yeah.

A 1973 international harvester scout, too.

And any other vehicles?

A 2019 Fiat Abarth.

Amazing.

Maybe you've heard of that as well.

Yes.

That's right.

We could be twinning.

We could be matching a bar.

Same year?

No.

Different year.

Unfortunately.

We got really late.

Was that the last year of those?

I think it was the last year.

Yeah.

They still sound amazing.

Yeah, they do.

Yeah.

So two cars?

Two car solution and a golf cart.

Oh, tell us about the golf cart.

Yeah.

It's a western golf cart, but it's the Royal Ride Edition as in Rolls Royce.

Ooh.

So it looks like a Rolls Royce.

Really?

Yeah.

The grill and the hood.

It does have the grill.

It has the...

Tail lights?

It does have tail lights.

Yes.

The tail lights, though.

The Rolls Royce tail lights?

Oh.

I don't know that I'm aware of the Rolls Royce tail lights.

Just like the front end, like, you know, the...

Did they swoop out the rear haunches of it with custom body work?

And you're going real deep, real quick.

Welcome to the pod.

And I'm not sure, but now I feel like I have to pull up a photo to find out.

Where do you take said golf cart?

Where does it live?

The golf cart lives in Palm Desert.

Okay.

Perfect.

In my retirement community that I hope to live in soon.

Oh, amazing.

And yeah, and I tuted around in town.

So how long have you been a Motoring Club member?

It's a great question.

I want to say about as long as you and I have known one another.

So I'm going to say about two and a half years.

Two and a half years.

Now I could be completely, not completely, maybe six months off.

Okay.

So don't quote me on that.

Okay.

I'm sorry.

We're not big on details on the pod.

Yeah, good.

Except for Andrew.

Andrew is like...

My detail or he is...

What can I say?

Which is good.

So I'm hoping you're going to be with us in all the episodes, but...

Me too.

You know.

I love this ghost.

I'll see what the people say.

Yeah.

So be ready for that.

We will put the word out once it gets posted and then you're going to have so many followers.

You know what?

You're going to be so...

Let me tell you something.

I just broke 600.

Whoa.

I mean, it's a big deal.

That's a big deal.

I've let the brands know.

Yeah.

And yeah, I'm very excited.

Second to Kardashian, I think.

It's neck and neck.

I think so.

I think there's 605.

Yeah.

Millions.

And so are you going to the Palisades car show?

I am.

I'm going to be bringing this...

Thank you for reminding me.

Yeah.

I'm taking the scout to the Palisades car show.

It's where I grew up, incidentally.

And of course, you know that the Palisades did burn to the ground last year, which was

really devastating for everyone involved.

And it's still just a tragedy.

Yeah.

And this weekend on Saturday is the Palisades Motor Classic, which will raise money to

rebuild the YMCA.

So I think it's not only going to be great to see the cars, but for a great purpose.

Amazing.

Yeah.

All right.

And then the scout does have some history in the Palisades.

It does.

Do we want to say it now or do we want to...

We can.

There's no rules.

Kind of go all for a little...

Yeah.

Tell us about your scout.

Yeah.

For the listeners right now.

Am I right?

We're looking at a picture of the Royal Ride right now.

But I don't have a back view in this particular moment in time.

Next time you visit it.

Is this what you were referring to, that one, Andrew?

Yeah.

So it's...

Nice.

It's not exactly the spirit of ecstasy on the hood.

That's what they call the Rolls-Royce.

Yeah.

Legally, I don't think they can get that.

They can't really...

Yeah, I don't think so.

But it is magnificent.

You got to knock off.

It's the Western Golf Cart Edition.

In fact, it's actually called an elegante.

Elegante.

Yeah.

That feels more Rolls-Royce.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Or more like...

Is this your first Golf Cart?

A lonté.

It is my first Golf Cart and I would like to start a fleet of Golf Cart.

Oh.

A racing team.

I envision myself finding every luxury vehicle package that they made.

Because I know that they did make a Mercedes.

I know that they did a Bentley and I feel like they did a few others.

So what if I just had a whole garage?

Well, you know the nice thing is all the parts are interchangeable.

You know, batteries dead in this one, just pull them out of that one.

That's right.

There you go.

And that's exactly what I was thinking.

Yeah.

Because it was top of mind.

Yeah, top of mind.

How am I going to be in pain these?

Do you do any work on your vehicle?

I do.

I wash it.

Yeah.

I wash it very often.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

I love a clean car.

Okay.

Clean car is nice.

I have changed a light bulb and I did do my first oil change recently.

Do we do that at Wanderwell?

Yes.

I did do that at Wanderwell.

In fact, there's a guy that, what's his name?

Adam.

Yes, he's still there.

Adam is he still there?

Yeah, he's still there from what I know.

Yeah.

Haven't seen him recently, so I'm not sure.

But he was on this pod, right?

He started this with you.

A little bit.

Yeah.

You kicked him out.

Is that right?

Oh, I mean, we had a huge coral, like just a throw down, like just.

Physical.

Oh, yeah.

Always a rush.

It was a lot.

10 rounds.

So clearly you won.

I don't know.

I got the podcast.

I feel like I lost.

Well, that would say, yeah.

Yeah.

If he was here, he'd say he won.

That's true.

That's his way.

Right.

And that's okay.

Yeah.

All right.

So welcome, welcome, welcome.

We're going to jump into this.

Since we have a new podcast partner, I thought we'd try a new game.

Instead of wandering all around with amazing conversation, I'm going to put some pressure

on you too.

I love pressure.

What I did was I found a random classic car dealer.

I don't know this dealer.

I just know it's far away from here.

It had an interesting name.

So I thought, all right, so I do not know.

It's called the barn in Miami.

So you guys, I actually think it's pronounced me on me.

Me on me.

Oh, okay.

We have a culture.

What is it?

Oh, don't start.

You don't start.

I don't need Palmdale's finest.

Oh, yeah.

So I picked a couple cars.

And so I told you guys to pick two cars from the inventory.

And then we're going to battle each other to death over basically what would be the

ultimate two car garage.

There weren't that many to pick from, which, which made it okay.

Not as tricky.

You're opening up a lot of notes in your notebook and I'm a little worried.

I've got notes.

So I made some categories, but we can feel free.

So you guys looks like you have a lot of notes.

I'm, I'm, yeah, I'm a little panicked.

I have some notes.

Okay.

So the inventory choices, there were probably, yeah, are you going to run through the choices

just to let the people know what, what we had to choose from 20 cars to choose from?

I feel like we have to set it up for people.

So they have a visual.

Okay.

So we've got, ironically, there's been a 308 added since I made my car.

I was going to say, yeah.

Yeah.

And so I'll go through it.

I'll go through it.

We got an 82, 308 red.

That's a Ferrari for those of you that don't know.

Yeah.

If they're on this, I mean, both the people, this is injection though, yours is carbureted.

Yeah.

So this one's a little newer.

This is a little newer.

Okay.

I've got a 2007 Aston Martin Vantage hardtop.

V8.

Yeah.

Uh, 911 RSR tribute car.

Just like it's a replica of like Adams.

You put some, you put some like decal.

It's on it and a duck tail.

Yeah.

Real fenders.

Uh, we have a 1942 Launcia Aprilia.

Let's say that right?

Not really.

Not at all.

But how do you say it?

Launcia Aprilia.

No, that's not true.

No.

It's Aprilia.

No, it's not even.

No.

Aprilia.

Okay.

Maybe that's it.

I am glad you're here.

You're doing well.

Why don't you just choose?

No.

Okay.

So 1964 Alfa Romeo, Julia.

Julia better.

He killed it.

Uh, 2022 911 GT3 Turing in Palisade Spec, it looks like.

Uh, 1966 Impala.

And now this one, which I already have a feeling what Andrew chose, a 1959 Asardo 1500.

I never even heard of that.

Very cool.

It has got go wing doors.

Yeah, go wing doors.

I'd not choose it, but it is very cool.

Yeah.

Sideways.

We've got a 1952 Alfa that's got a very long name.

Yeah.

Spite.

Are you going to do this one?

No, I'll do it.

I've already screwed up.

Spiter, Coley, Tubolare, Gilco.

Okay.

You are great, Andrew.

Yeah.

And we got our, we got a 300 SL Roadster convert, Roadster obviously convertible.

So you don't get those cool doors.

No, no going.

No going.

No.

Uh, 458 Speciale, Aperta.

Uh, then we do have a go wing.

Uh, we have a lot of cars.

Skyline, Dino.

434.

Um, a 1972 Ferrari Dino.

Yeah.

1970 Mercedes-Benz 280 SL.

55 Aston Martin.

No one's going to remember all these.

Yeah, but the people want to know.

They do?

Okay.

They might, they might want to choose their own two cars.

That's true.

You know, they can play along.

They're just going to be disappointed when we don't choose their car.

Well, that's.

Gee, I really wanted to hear about that.

They're already disappointed.

They're going to have better, you know.

Yeah.

19, 5 Pujo 205 Turbo 16.

And then we have a 1995 extra 300 L, which is an airplane apparently.

So I have no idea.

We have a Dino, another Ferrari at the end, 78 GT4, and then a 1933 Alfa Romeo 8C Manza

Brionza.

Okay.

Wow.

How many was that?

Like 20?

That's a lot of cars.

And thank you for joining this podcast.

the continuation will be next week.

Yes.

I think we're done.

I think that's it for the week.

I think we did everything.

So I made you guys put your choices in here

so we can see what we chose.

Yeah.

I have some questions set up to take us through this.

So I'm gonna go through my choices.

Oh, please.

And then you guys, you guys.

You should certainly go first.

I'll jump in there.

You can go right ahead.

I'm first in the document.

No, no, you should.

I went with the Ferrari, naturally.

Of course.

A Dino, 246 Dino.

And then the Aston Martin DB2, which I've already

forgotten what year it was.

Oh, 55.

55.

I guess I should put that in there.

So I have a ton of reliability.

I have an old Aston and an old Ferrari.

Yep.

So I've got no space.

The Ferrari is a Spider, 72.

Now, is that a Chairs and Flares?

It is not.

I don't think so.

I see flares, I think.

Don't start looking at my choices.

Oh, sorry.

Yeah.

Jeez.

We have rules here.

They're made to be broken.

OK.

Veronica, take me through your choices.

Oh, that was it, huh?

Well, no, no, no.

We're going to go through a wide reach of it.

We're just going to announce and then, all right.

Yeah.

I've got the 1978 Ferrari Dino 308 GT4.

It's the wrong 308, but good choice.

OK.

I like to make a mash up.

It's the wrong one, huh?

I don't think it is.

OK.

Well?

Doesn't it say 308 GT4 at the bottom there?

I'm just saying it's the wrong 308.

Oh, I see what you mean.

Not that I've said it wrong.

Just so you all know, Steve will always

say that what I say is wrong.

That is not true.

Almost all the time.

I have made fun of Andrew last podcast.

OK, good.

Andrew, get in here a little bit.

All's fair.

And then the 85 Peugeot 205 Turbo 16.

OK.

Cool car.

Andrew, take me through your choices.

My first choice is not a car.

It's just the airplane.

So you got the 95.

What happened to the holes?

No, you can pick anything.

It was just the inventories.

No, no, you're right.

It's a fair name.

Yeah.

So 95 extra 300L, a stunt plane, an aerobatic specialty

plane.

And I'm like, why would they have this at a boutique dealership

in Miami?

But I guess it's on par.

Thrills seeking.

Yeah.

And then the second car is a 1973 wide body tribute, the RSR.

But it is a real 1973 car.

So it's not a back date, it's not an update.

It's a real 1973 car with real fenders.

OK.

Do you guys want to go over, did anybody

look at the values of their car?

Oh.

No?

I mean, yeah.

Call for price.

Call for price, you know.

Are we?

I think everything.

Well, my Aston is 100.

And tell us about your Aston.

Yeah, is 190 grand.

Do you guys have any prices on any years?

Sounds like a deal.

Or both of yours call for price?

No, no, no, no.

My Ferrari is at $69.9.

OK.

Very reasonable.

I feel like that's a screaming deal.

Very reasonable.

OK.

I think we're being very practical in our choices.

Yeah.

How much is your airplane?

You know, I think you'd get one of those between like 200,

maybe 300 grand somewhere around there.

Is that what it says on here?

No.

Not at all.

No.

How do you know that that's what it is?

Just because you've made that up?

You know from a stunt plane.

I mean, I know your specialty cars.

No, I haven't Googled in front of you.

No, he's a big plane guy.

I'm also a big plane guy.

Oh, are you?

Oh, that's right.

That's right.

Plane guy.

Palmdale.

That's right.

Yeah.

I grew up in Aerospace Valley.

And some people call it that.

And so the Antelope Valley.

Not a lot of people, but some.

Maybe one or two.

Yeah.

And then the value is 9.11.

What are they asking?

$299,000.

Wow.

300 grand for 9.11.

Wow.

OK.

So you probably got the most expensive choices at this

point.

Yeah, that seems.

Because I feel like I don't know what my Dino would be,

but what would we guess?

Do you have your prices over there on yours?

Mine, I just mentioned the $69.99.

I did not look up the Peugeot, but I have a feeling

it would go for a lot.

Mine's going to go for $350,000 to $500,000.

So I'm still under the million mark, as we all are, I think.

I feel like we're being very practical on our choices.

Well, I mean, we need to have a two car solution that's

going to work.

I can fly places.

That's true.

I wonder what you do with a small stunt plane off

the tip of Florida.

I wonder what you could possibly be delivering.

Smiles.

Smiles on adrenaline.

How about that?

Oh, yeah.

Maybe a little extra adrenaline.

OK, so those are our choices.

Everything's under, how much was your Peugeot?

Well, Gemini is saying because of its provenance and rarity,

because it is the only black that came off the line.

Maybe around half a mil.

But this really is, it depends on the buyer.

It could really just go up in value.

It could be up there.

It could depend on who really wants it.

All right, OK.

So before we jump into the questions, now we have the cars.

Do give me a couple minutes into why you made your choices.

Well, I made my choices because the Peugeot, if I may,

this is a car I've seen at different car shows.

I'm obsessed with it.

I just think that it is so sexy looking.

I feel like I could just rip around in it quite well.

Can you describe it so people haven't seen one?

It's a two door.

It's a mid-engine four wheel drive.

This one is in black with a gray interior.

I just literally.

It's a Ford Escort, right?

I'm sorry, what did you just say?

Yeah, but the Peugeot is the European.

Like the American version was a Ford Escort, right?

I'm slightly offended.

I think so.

Is that true?

Yeah.

It looks just like that.

Yeah.

Well, the thing is, this is a special race version.

This is a sexy vehicle.

The clamshell, the engine in the back, if I may,

Andrew kind of looks like maybe an airplane a bit.

It has like an airplane vibe.

Yeah, I can see that, yeah.

Clearly I know a lot about engines.

And I would also say that because this was

a Group B rally monster, if I may,

I'm gonna read a couple things.

The ultimate Wild West chapter of Group B.

It was introduced by the International Automobile

Federation in 1982.

And during that time, the Group B

was virtually had no restrictions on boost, exotic materials,

or horsepower.

Cars went from 250 horsepower to over 500

in a matter of a few years.

And the manufacturer only had to build around 200 road

legal versions to prove that it was a production vehicle.

Then they were completely banned by the end of 1986.

So they only had a four-year run,

which means that this is a pretty rare vehicle on its own

not to mention the provenance of it.

Did you know, is there more provenance on it?

Well, I do have about five more pages of notes here.

Let's try and work it into conversation.

Instead of reading it as a list.

I was just gonna say that.

I just wanted to give you the Group B information

because I don't know this information firsthand.

You guys really did some research.

OK.

Well, amazing.

OK.

And then the 308 GT4, why'd you pick that?

Well, the year is great.

It's the year I was born.

OK.

Yeah.

So there's that.

I guess I just gave out a little private information,

didn't I?

That's OK.

No one listens.

And I'll also say.

They know my age.

They know my age on this podcast.

Yeah, we do.

We do know your age.

Yeah.

You know, I love a pop-up light.

If I'm being completely honest, I really do.

It's really something that gets me every time.

But I also love the design of this car.

It is very futuristic for the year.

OK.

The back is just real mean-looking.

And when you get into the dash, again,

it kind of looks like you're in the cockpit of an airplane.

It's a wild car.

So I'm a big fan for those reasons.

That's why I chose it.

I know it does look like a Ford Escort from the front.

Wow.

It obviously has nothing to do with the Ford Escort

we got in the US.

Because that is, yeah.

I don't know what to say to you.

I just think that for a man who loves a Ferrari as much

as you do.

Oh, keep going.

He just disappointed.

I am shocked that you're poo-pooing on this car.

Yeah, I wasn't poo-pooing.

I was just, it was a curious choice.

I also really like the handle.

The handle?

Right underneath the dash where you open what I want to say

is the hood.

The lever action.

That's right.

Yeah.

That's what she was going to say.

It's all in the details for me.

No, I get it.

It's all about the details.

And this car has a lot of detail to love.

OK.

And so you're willing to give up your Abarth and the Verne

for these two.

The Abarth and the Skate.

Wait, was that part of the game that I have to swap out?

Well, I mean, the theory is that this is your old,

you would give up your current two-car garage for this.

I see.

You don't have to.

Think about it.

I'm going to come back to that.

We're going to come back to it.

You're going to have to answer the same question

you got to give up your cars.

I'd do it.

Well, OK.

We can go back.

OK, take me through your choices.

Just give me a couple of sentences on one.

So we got the extra, of course, and that's

a really cool stunt plane.

And I guess it'd be a practical choice.

What makes a cool stunt plane?

Yeah.

Just for those non-stunt plane owners.

It's just a very powerful, lightweight aircraft.

So you can make it do barrel rolls in a flick of a second.

You're just spinning through the air like a crazy man.

That's what I want to do.

Every time I'm out there.

They got a function where you can inject oil

onto the exhaust manifold.

And that's what creates the white smoke.

So you can draw things in the sky with it.

You can make messages.

What kind of message would you make?

Yeah, well, it would be your first message.

Yeah, your first message.

As a new owner of a extra 300L.

Put your shopping cart away.

Can you imagine looking up in the sky and just seeing that?

I don't get that.

I don't.

What?

Put your shopping cart away?

You know, in line, in its return area.

Oh, I see.

It's a message to the people.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Put your shopping cart where it belongs, maybe.

That's right.

Maybe that's a more detailed version of it.

Yeah.

Wow.

And that would be your first message.

You're just going to look up in the sky one day,

and you're going to be like, why is this guy talking

about shopping carts?

And you'd be like, I know who did that.

Andrew, I'm going to say stick to machinery mechanics.

Yeah, I don't need to be advertising.

Maybe you do.

Yeah.

Wow.

I bet you somebody put their shopping cart back

where it belonged that day.

Yeah.

It is a good PSA.

It is a good PSA for the people.

OK.

Well, that's a very noble message.

I would have just put my name or something.

Steve.

Yeah.

But I like, what would be your first message in a stunt plane?

God, it's a really great question.

Yeah.

We can come back to you.

Yeah.

I don't really need to think about that one.

I feel like we're really stressing you out already.

So many possibilities in what you could say in the air.

Yeah.

That'll be your slogan for your plane on your hangar.

There you go.

There's so many possibilities.

God, no, that's all I'm going to think about.

Yeah.

It's like choosing a tattoo, but it's not as permanent.

It's just going in the air.

Oh, good point.

It's going to blow away.

Yeah.

Good point.

Yeah.

So.

Could you make this a thing?

Could we?

Best in class podcast.

Check it out.

Yeah.

With a Sky Rider.

Oh, fantastic.

Now you win.

Yeah.

That's what I would say.

OK, good.

Yeah.

I still like the shopping.

Don't let the shopping go.

PS, don't forget about it.

Put your shopping cart back.

That would be a great start.

What I liked is how long of a sentence you picked.

I know.

I realized that as I was saying that.

I was thinking of one word.

Is this something that's on your mind?

Yeah.

Clearly not.

That probably drives you crazy.

It does.

Yeah.

It does.

OK.

But you know.

No, no.

There's hard things.

You can't judge other people.

You know, they got stuff going on.

No, that's all we do.

It's kind of a trick.

You never know what's going on in your life.

I think that's why we have podcasts for judging.

That's true.

That's basically what this is based on.

It's not what we're doing right now.

Well, I do want to say why I chose both of these vehicles.

Yeah, yeah.

Go for it.

Because they both have air-cooled flat sixes.

Oh, sure.

The plane and the car.

Yeah.

I think that's pretty cool.

You know, because the 911 has an air-cooled flat six.

Could you swap them?

Well, you know, that brings me to something

we talked about earlier, the Mooney Porsche.

That had a Porsche 3.2 liter flat six in an air-cooled.

Is that the one where they show your tuchas?

No.

I mean, this is, they was just a, I don't know.

What?

Andrew doesn't know what that means.

It's all right.

Yeah.

I was just a little sport plane.

OK.

You know, but they.

But it's Porsche made a plane.

Oh.

So the engine that was in the 911 from 84 to like the 90s,

3.2 liter, they just put it in a plane

and they're like, good to go.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Apparently very reliable.

You were just talking about this the other day.

I was.

Yeah.

Great.

Yeah.

I love it.

Yeah.

So, OK, we got our shopping cart message out,

which I think is important.

You want to talk about the Porsche?

Is that why?

You want to, why would you pick that?

Because it has the same engine?

Well, and I also think I could make it pretty reliable.

You know, if this is going to be my only car,

if my other vehicle is an airplane,

that's things got to get me to the grocery store

and down the 405.

Put the shopping carts away.

Yeah.

I like it.

We always come back to.

Put the shopping carts away.

That's right.

That's really, that's OK.

We're learning a lot today.

Are you the kind of man that when you're in a lot

and you see a stranded one, you're.

A cart?

Yes.

All right.

You take.

Yeah.

I'll grab it.

Good for you.

I don't know.

Good for you.

You're a good example for the young generation.

Yeah.

I like that about you, Andrew.

OK.

No, this is good.

All right.

I could be lying out of my teeth.

I'm the one bringing all the goods.

I think with the passion that you

said your skywriting message, I don't think that comes from.

That just doesn't come off hand.

I have a question.

Yeah.

Does this airplane have, does this seat,

is what are they called?

A jump seat?

Is that what it's called?

Can you pull a lever and then catapult yourself into the sky?

No.

This does not have an ejection seat.

Oh, that's unfortunate.

But you put one in?

If something happened, you just like, think it's over.

How does the canopy open?

How do you get out?

Yeah.

I'm pretty sure you just unlatch the canopy,

put your arms up, and just go and just throw them up

against the ceiling as hard as possible and jump out.

Against the air.

Yeah.

Yeah, it'd be pretty difficult.

Yeah, that's right.

Look at this seat, isn't it?

You guys have a picture of this?

I'm looking at it.

It's a very comfortable place.

It looks great.

Well, I mean, is there two seats?

There's no cupholders, which I think

would be an issue for me personally.

If I had this plane, I would bring a cup of coffee with me.

Because there's a way that you can do a barrel roll,

and the cup of coffee will invert completely,

but the fluid stays in because of the forces.

Of course.

Yeah, I mean, that's why I get a stunt plane and the messaging.

OK, do we have, you're looking at the interior.

I am.

It's fascinating to me, to be quite honest.

Yeah.

And see how simple it is?

There's not much to distract you.

You got an altimeter, you have an airspeed indicator.

It doesn't seem to be a seat for another person.

No.

No, it's just me.

This is the solitary.

This is solitary.

Is this why you chose it?

Yeah.

So you could be alone?

Is this a message?

I wonder if I got a Bluetooth speaker so I can listen to music.

I was going to ask about that.

Oh, wait, no, there is a.

It is a two-seater.

I guess.

It is a two-seater.

Yeah.

All right, this is not fun.

Shopping cart.

Is it a two-seater?

Yeah, I see two panels.

OK.

Yeah, it is.

It is a two-seater.

It's a tandem.

Yeah, tandem.

Oh, OK.

All right, I'm back on board.

OK.

What does a person in the back do?

Try not to die.

Try not to get sick.

Oh, OK.

OK.

They don't have any controls.

No.

Depending on the setup.

OK.

Well, at least.

They do.

Yeah, they got a stick in both seats.

Yeah.

So OK.

And it looks like you still have a view from back there.

All right.

Good choices.

Listen, I thought we were going to be poo-pooing this one,

but it seems like we're all really into it.

Well, I'm going to have some questions later that.

It's a unique choice.

It is.

I applaud you.

How often are you flying your stunt plane?

Do you think?

Oh, I would be flying this.

If I had the money to reasonably provide for a stunt plane

and maintain it, I'd be flying it weekly.

Yeah.

On the weekends.

Yeah, just go out of Van Nuys, fly out to Catalina,

leave your message in the sky in between those.

OK.

Would you have a notebook of messages

that you'd be prepping for every week?

Can you imagine, like, if I had a five-word limit,

you could just have a book of quips, just a million quips.

Yes.

And write those in the sky.

There's not enough quips in the sky.

No, there's enough.

I need more quips.

Yeah.

I wonder what the rules are for skywriting.

Oh, yeah.

Because you can just do it all the time.

You can't say naughty words.

I don't want it to be like a permitting thing.

Yeah, it must be for a certain space.

Anybody know about this?

Leave us a comment in the comment box.

Anybody's got a brother-in-law or something

that's a skywriter?

It's a very specific and all-in-all.

I just feel like somebody's got a brother-in-law

that's a skywriter.

Nobody's actually won themselves.

Oh, they just have a friend, a family member.

Well, there's got to be out there.

I got so many questions.

All right, let's keep going.

When was the last time you saw skywriting?

Can you remember?

Recent.

Recent?

Yeah, sure.

Where?

In the sky.

Well, that would make sense.

That was a great answer.

On the west side.

In the sky.

Over Venice Beach.

Yeah, of course.

Of course.

I mean, of course.

All the time.

It's the last time you saw a skywriter.

I was like, that's the last place I saw it.

I was down in Santa Monica.

I'm like, oh, somebody's writing something.

Yeah.

Or you know what?

You know what you always do?

The smiley face.

That's what they always do.

This is boring smiley face.

This is a waste of smoke.

I know.

What do you like?

Why?

Well, because who needs to see a smiley face?

If you're going to do it and you're going to go upside down,

I mean, you might as well make something

more interesting, more impactful.

Please put your shopping carts away.

Well, the replacing this whole idea of skywriting with drones.

You guys have seen the firework drone show.

Let me tell you something.

I've seen some serious drone action.

Hundreds.

Yeah.

That wasn't maybe even.

Yeah.

Have you ever been near a drone show?

I have.

I don't tell you about the noise.

Oh, it's loud.

It's not.

I have never considered that.

It is not.

It is loud.

It's not fun.

It's not.

You're not like.

A million angrily's.

Well, because you rebind on Instagram, right?

And you're like, oh, that's cool.

It is cool.

But it is.

It is not.

It's loud.

It's.

Yeah.

A lot of air displacement because they're just moving around.

Yeah.

Should we get in our categories?

Sure.

OK.

I made these categories here.

Feel free to edit them.

Or did you guys have any categories?

Any questions?

No.

Nothing.

I want you to drive.

OK.

So I'm just going to pick some of these as we go through.

I'm not going to do them in any order.

So that way, you guys.

OK.

Oh, thanks for deleting that space of the dog.

Man, I really, thanks, Ron.

Sorry, I'm over a girl.

No, that really made it.

I can't.

That'll help the pod.

All right.

So we have these two cars.

Obviously, you don't have yours in a garage.

Is there a feature on either of your choices

that you wish we had in cars now?

Oh, well, that's easy.

OK.

I don't smoke.

But I mean, I like the fact that there's

a cigarette compartment.

I just lost the word.

Lighter.

No, no, no.

Where are you?

The ashtray.

Ashtray.

I was like, oh, we're talking about where the.

Ashtray.

You know, as an airplane man, yourself,

when you enter an airplane today in this day and age,

for some reason, these new planes still have ashtrays.

But yet, you're not allowed to use them.

I think it's rude.

If you're going to build something with an ashtray,

then you should at least let us ash in it.

You miss me?

You miss smoking on planes?

I was going to say, I have not experienced smoke on planes.

No, we know.

But I have.

Yeah.

I mean, is it really miserable?

It's got to be miserable.

Well, you had to go to the back.

Don't you remember?

You have to walk to the back.

Yeah, I used to work in an agency

that they still had smoking.

On the airplane.

No.

In the agency.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah, they're still smokers.

Yeah.

That's pretty mad men vibes.

What does it say?

Rippin' darts.

Banging nails.

Yeah.

Banging nails is what they call it.

Because you'd take the butt and you'd bang it on the, no.

I just thought it looks like a nail.

I just called it, oh, I'm going to bang some nails.

Oh, I've never heard that expression before.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

OK, that's cool.

Yeah, it's a thing.

OK.

So ashtrays.

Ashtrays.

I appreciate an ashtray.

Sorry, the question was something specific to that car

specifically.

I mean, versus what, another car we're not talking about?

I guess so.

Sure.

Anything.

I mean, yeah, sure.

You wrote a lot of stuff down, whatever you like.

Well, as I said, the Ferrari, I'm a sucker for pop-up lights.

OK.

So for me, that's there.

And for the Peugeot, it's just the whole.

The interior of that car is also very futuristic.

It's all plastic on the dash, and it kind of reminds you

of something.

Like maybe something, I know this is 85,

but it has like a mid-century kind of vibe in there.

OK.

I'm not answering your question.

I would say the clamshell hatch in the back.

OK.

And the keychain.

Because it's like a rear clamshell.

Yeah, it's very racy.

Yeah.

OK.

Andrew?

I'm looking for the keychain.

Oh, is that the keychain?

I like that keychain.

Yeah, it's pretty cool.

I'm really just interested in the keychain.

The features of these, I'm a big fan of air-cooled engine

technology.

OK.

It'd be cool if they still made an air-cooled car,

but they can't because of emissions regulations.

That's OK.

We don't need to keep it realistic.

And stuff like that.

But you know, on like 120-degree heat in an air-cooled car,

there's no coolant to boil over.

So you just keep driving.

Yeah.

And that's why they work so well in aviation.

So you want to bring an air-cooled engine back.

Oh, that'd be cool.

OK.

What about the plane?

Is there something on the plane that I guess

they haven't changed much?

And honestly, that's a fully updated modern glass

cockpit airplane.

OK.

I like the Aston.

Also has a front clamshell, which is great.

But you already took that.

So you stole my stuff.

I mean, mine's rear.

So you can have the front.

A front clamshell.

And then also the ignition is kind of in the middle of reverse.

All these little bits.

It's got like a little dial on it.

It looks very cool how you start it.

I like that.

It does have an asterisk, right?

That's not as appealing to me.

But it's got the like also, it's like a hatchback,

but not the way we think of hatchbacks.

But I'm just going to go with the starter dial on that.

And then on the Ferrari, I mean, there's

so many good things on that.

But I like, I mean, we still have spiders or like target tops.

So that's fine.

I don't know what I would say.

I would say on this particular Dino, what do I wish we had?

I mean, the interior is pretty awesome.

I would have to say the knobs, the dials.

Yeah.

I wish.

I would say the same one, the Ferrari that I chose.

Yeah.

This is, by the way, I've been saving it.

Oh.

I think there is a very special provenance to this one.

Yours?

Yes.

Oh, interesting.

What do you think that is?

Is it a license plate, a hint?

Yes.

OK.

I believe it was first owned by this is one of your heroes,

Veronica.

Sure.

Is that right?

Yeah.

Oh, the great share.

Yeah.

Who used to live in Malibu and would drive this car.

Wow.

Around.

So.

But so you're saying that if you were to purchase this car,

you get to continue that license plate.

Yeah.

Wow.

I feel like I don't know if somebody put that on later,

but it is a blue plate.

But it has no stickers on it.

See, this is why I think that was just,

it's just for show for the purchase.

Yes.

But I'd find a way to update that.

Yeah.

OK.

All right.

I support that.

I would probably just leave it share, though,

instead of shares.

So I feel like it's kind of like your license plate where

people are like, what?

Yeah.

I didn't get it.

So the car's name is.

Yeah.

This plate actually looks brand new.

Yeah.

I think this is a brand new blue plate.

Yeah.

It's just for show.

But.

Watch somebody from the barn Miami.

Listen to this podcast.

They have no idea.

These Schmoes don't know what to do.

So it was Cher's car.

So I'd be sitting in the same seat that Cher sat on.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

What a butt to replace.

Yeah.

Right?

So Cher's still around.

So we don't need to bring her back.

But what she.

No.

She'll go on forever.

Yeah.

I think all these knobs, the interior knobs,

is what I would have on a modern car.

I like all that stuff.

Yeah.

It's nice.

Although, you know, that 70s Ferrari switch gear isn't the best.

I know.

Yeah.

We won't go into that story.

We'll say that for later.

OK.

So now I got some fun stuff.

So if your car was in a movie, good guy car or bad guy car?

Me first.

Yeah.

Oh, the 911 I think is a good guy car.

Is it?

I think so.

A blue, wide body 911.

You know, it'll probably be, gosh,

some racing drivers, like daily driver,

before some action happens or something.

All right.

I can't think of a villain driving that.

No.

The stunt plane?

Yeah.

Probably flown by a villain.

Probably a bad person.

Yeah.

Just somebody just buzzing around,

putting hateful messages up in the air.

You know what I mean?

That's some villain stuff.

Yeah, but it's red, white, and blue.

It's representing this great country.

Well, I guess if we have time later,

I got all these notes on Patty Wagstaff

in the history of the extra 300.

So it is technically a hero for you.

Are you familiar with Patty?

I'm not.

I'd love to be familiarized.

Can we get a quick little blurb on Patty and not all those notes?

Yeah.

So Patty Wagstaff.

Can you give me every note?

Go ahead.

I got all of them for you here.

Yeah.

But in 1991, she was the winner of the US National

Arobatic Championship.

But that was in an extra 260.

So a variant of it in earlier variant.

Wow.

And the 300L is kind of a modernized version

of the plane that she was famous for flying,

because she was flying an extra 300S.

What else do we know about Patty?

She's still alive.

OK.

Good.

Yeah, she's still around.

Quick shout out to Patty.

OK.

All right.

Patty, killing it.

OK.

Not literally.

Veronica.

Oh, gosh.

I mean, I would say it's a bit of a toss up.

I feel like both of these could be either.

Do I have to choose?

Is that what you're saying?

No, this is your world.

I feel like they really could be either.

OK, that's a strong answer.

Can we take a stand if you had to?

If I had to.

Yeah.

I would say that the Ferrari would be the good guy.

OK.

And then the bad guy would be the Pujo.

Yeah.

OK.

I will say I wouldn't mind changing the rims on the Pujo.

Oh, no, but those are specials.

I know.

I just think that they would love for them to be murdered out.

All black?

Yeah, I would.

I would.

Do you want to pass the dip, the wheels?

No.

Those are period wheels.

I know they are, you guys.

Oh, that's, I don't know.

You want it all black?

OK.

I'm just saying.

All right.

You know, this is my dream.

That's true.

Don't stop in my dream.

My car, I think the Aston, is definitely a bad person.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I feel like a pipe-smoking, mustache bad person.

It's going to be like a gangster.

Like a British bad person.

Yeah, a British bad person.

Yeah.

Is there a monocle?

No, but it's going to be like the modern, like,

what is it, like, kind of lock, stock, and barrels?

What was it, those guy-richy?

Oh, Jason Statham?

No.

Oh, yes.

Oh, there you go.

Like that.

It would be like that.

It would be like one of those.

Like a proper.

Yeah.

A proper, plaid, man.

A well-educated hooligan.

Yeah.

So it's going to be a bad person, like a baddie,

a gangster, some sort of that.

And then the Ferrari, I think, I think would be a good person.

Because it's got four seats.

Oh, no, this one doesn't.

No, yours has four seats.

I was going to say this four seats.

Yeah, 2463 oh, eight.

I feel like it's a good person because it's a little smaller.

It's a happy car.

I feel like it's a happy car.

A spider.

Well, it shares.

Yeah.

I feel like it's a good person's car.

And shares a good person.

Yeah.

So there you go.

Yeah.

Still is.

All right.

So let's say tomorrow these cars arrive at your house,

your vehicles.

Yeah.

Well, you have a plane because, of course,

you had to choose the plane.

Yeah, hold on.

You have to have a hangar.

You can't even have the garage.

It's just technically a big rise.

It's a very big rise.

Well, you keep your car in there with it, right?

Because you have to drive.

Yeah, you have to.

OK.

All right.

I want to hear what's your ideal day in these cars,

Broca.

What are you doing?

Well, the Ferrari, I'm certainly driving up the coast.

Yeah.

But at night.

Oh, OK.

As the sun is coming down and I'm

looking at the sun just slowly go down behind the ocean,

and I'm turning on the lights and those pop-ups are popping up.

Oh, OK.

And I'm just cruising.

Maybe I've got a Virginia slim in my hand.

I'm not smoking it.

It's just because I have the ashtray.

And I'm just listening to some tunes on the Kenwood.

OK.

I believe there's a tape deck in there.

So maybe I'll put a little earth wind and fire in.

All right.

So along the coast, the car, by yourself?

I know I'll have more fun.

OK.

All right.

But that's only I need like a full day.

Oh, that's oh, I see.

I see.

Well, technically, let's do this.

Since we have two cars, you've got to use them both

on the same day.

OK.

Yeah.

OK.

Yeah.

That'll be my evening car.

The Ferrari is evening the dinner car.

That's right.

That's the evening dinner car.

And the Pugia, what are we doing?

And the Pugia, we're ripping it up.

You know, we're going all kinds of places.

OK.

We'll go shopping and put our cart back for Andrew.

You know shopping in a rally car?

Well, there's also nowhere to put anything.

I was going to say, my trader Joe's

ain't going to like that truck.

You know, it's going to be a little warm.

I will say, though, driving in a bar,

I don't really have a lot of space.

I do have a back seat, however.

There's a lot of space.

I've got a great day in mind.

Well, that's true.

You did.

Yeah, there's a lot of space in there.

Highly impressive.

You sure did.

Yeah, yeah.

Seat all the way back.

You know, passengers go way back.

Put them down.

Yeah, I put them down.

Oh, and then you just kind of sit on top of it.

Yeah, a little hatchback.

Wow.

Yeah.

It's a good point.

It's a good engineering.

It's a good point.

You have a great point.

I don't know.

I think I just drive around, to be honest.

I don't know.

What would I do in this car?

Yeah.

I'd probably get close to other people and cars

that I have no business driving next to and rev my engine.

Oh, OK.

And then I'd let them really floor it.

And then I'd laugh at them.

You just got to walk and drive with people

and be like, more than you can afford, pal?

Yeah, that's right.

If it is a rally car, would you rally it a little bit?

Well, it's true.

But I don't have any track time.

So I don't know that I'd trust myself.

Just like on a trail, though.

Oh, sure.

OK.

Yeah?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's like a rally.

Like a little.

OK.

Yeah, I'll go in a circle.

OK, go in a circle.

Yeah.

OK, OK.

Because it's your ideal moment, because you could rally it.

Right.

And then drive the Ferrari at night.

Yeah.

Like, so.

So you're saying I should rethink my answer to that?

No, I'm just trying to open it up a little bit for our listeners.

I see.

We're open to anything.

I guess I would rally it.

Sure.

I would take this long distance, most likely.

I drive this to Vegas, probably.

Hey, it's got AC, right?

Yeah.

I mean, open up the windows.

OK.

I'm not a big AC person to begin with.

Again, a tape deck.

I will say love that there's a tape deck.

And I just drive fast.

All right.

Well, so Dino versus non-Dino 308, which one's faster?

Hers by far.

Yeah.

The Dino's are a lot faster than the.

I mean, not a lot, but yeah.

Enough.

Bigger engine, so that helps.

Yeah.

By the way, it's Ferrari's first V8.

Yeah.

There you go.

An only burton, I believe.

Designer.

Yeah.

Actually designed by Gandini.

Yes, that's true.

Yeah.

Who's also a fellow Virgo, by the way.

Oh, I mean.

I just want to mention.

Yeah.

For those that don't know, he designed the Miura and the

Kuntas, my personal favorite car.

Is that your dream car?

It is my dream car.

And the Lancia Stratos, which I didn't know what that was.

And I looked it up and I was like, wow,

he was very ahead of his time.

All very space-age, geometric, which makes sense, because I'm

a big mid-century person.

So this really incredible man.

OK.

Take me through your, what are you doing to your vehicles?

You have a lot more options.

You have a plane.

Yeah.

I'm trying to think where I would drive the 911 to.

Where do I have my plane stored?

Ooh.

Yeah.

I probably store it at Lone Pine Airport.

OK.

It's on the way up to Mammoth Lakes.

Anywhere in the world, you're going to go.

It's going to be Lone Pine Airport.

And then.

Not Lake Geneva or something.

You know, I wake up in Palmdale, California,

fire up the 911, and just drive up through the Mojave Desert

to the extra.

Yeah.

And then your hangar's up there somewhere.

More realistically, I think.

No, no, we don't need to.

Don't let me take you out track.

I'd probably live in Mammoth and then drive down to Lone Pine

in the 911.

OK.

Take off from there, fly around.

Fly over area 51.

You can go pretty close by.

Get shot down by a couple of Air Force planes.

Oh, I don't like that.

It seems a bit weird.

Well, you don't trespass in a very 51.

Well, you wouldn't write a message?

Yeah.

You could write a message.

Oh, you should.

Yeah.

Unlock the gate just today.

So drive the car by yourself.

Get in the plane.

OK.

I don't know.

I'd probably put my dog in the plane with me.

Yeah.

OK.

Strap him up.

Give him some goggles, even though it's a closed cockpit.

OK.

Just for the look.

So is he going the 911 too?

Oh, of course.

OK.

Yeah.

On the seat.

Just bear.

Bear on the seat.

Yeah.

OK.

I would.

It says this is like fine Napa leather,

Italian Napa leather.

Yeah.

If I have a dog, he's going right on that fine leather.

OK.

I bought it.

Right.

You do you, boo.

Yeah.

You put Steve on the seats in your car.

We're going to get to that.

So that's your.

You drive the Porsche around.

Are you taking on a track or anything?

Are we like, what's the?

What?

You're just a little roll down a mountain.

It's going to be a scenic car.

OK.

So I can go into the mountains wherever I want,

go full throttle a little bit, and then slow down.

I didn't really think much more about what

I would do with these cars.

No.

It's OK.

I didn't think that we could be anywhere in the world

either, to be quite honest.

I'm a little disappointed.

I have to say with these answers.

I really didn't think this through.

It's OK.

We can, we can, you know.

I don't want to spend too much.

Why don't you inspire us?

OK.

So in my mind.

Yeah.

Right.

I'm probably with these two cars.

I'm probably in Switzerland somewhere.

Oh, see?

Because I've done, I've done better than now.

So I think I'm in like an alpinish area.

Even though these cars are kind of struggle with that.

But I'm going to take the Aston with the Great Dane in it.

Perfect.

Yeah.

I'm going to take it to the tennis club.

Of course you are.

We're going to place in tennis.

Yeah.

The dog's going to run around because it's

going to be like some court, just one single court somewhere.

Yes.

Aston's there playing tennis.

Dog's running around.

And that's like the morning.

And there's some sort of like maybe food item

or something like that.

Yeah.

Do you go to the country club?

Is there a country club?

No.

Just be one court that only I get to be on.

Oh, OK.

Yeah.

Be like one single court, like out and out and somewhere.

Yeah.

And then there'll be, you know, suitable lunch

afterwards, something pleasant.

Wonderful.

30 minutes away down the hill.

I don't know.

No, we'd be going through the mountains in my mind.

And then, or you know what?

I would probably have someone bring the Dino.

I leave the Aston.

Oh, wow.

Leave the Aston and the dog at the tennis area.

And then they go home.

The Dino gets dropped off.

I take the Dino through like Alpine, Alps, something

like that, and end up somewhere.

And in my mind, it's like that James Bond movie

where you're just driving and then a race

happens for no reason.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

So there's someone else out there that's racing me.

What car are you in?

I'm in the Peugeot now.

That's me.

That's a good race.

I just saw you.

No, the Peugeot would ruin it.

Yeah, yeah.

You didn't even leave.

I'm in America.

You're on PCC.

It's true.

I'm going to Vegas.

Exactly.

Yeah.

And you're sky riding and you're doing.

So a race takes place.

And I feel like me, I don't think it's nothing for worry.

But anyway.

And then end up at like a cool, like some sort of bar

restaurant or something like that.

OK, I have two questions.

OK.

Are you wearing driving gloves in either of these cars?

And if so, what color?

And are they leather?

Great question.

I think in the Aston, no.

I'm not going to have gloves.

Because I'm not going to be really racing.

OK.

It's more proper, but all right.

Yeah, I'll be in my tennis whites.

OK.

Yeah.

All right.

Yeah.

So you got a wood wheel.

Yeah.

So it's wooden wheel in the Aston.

So you should have gloves for a wooden wheel.

Yeah.

But I think I'd be OK.

OK.

I think I'd be OK.

Just put your hands on the spokes.

Well, I mean, because I don't want to drink my gin and tonic

with gloves.

Oh, you're drinking as well.

Just a little bit.

All right.

They've got a perfect cubby distorted right next to it.

OK.

Well, then you know what?

That's more than we got.

So you know.

So take advantage.

Yeah.

And then, yeah.

So no gloves.

No gloves.

OK.

Do I want gloves for the Ferrari?

That's a good question.

I don't think so.

In my mind, I'm not.

In my mind, the race takes off and I'm not ready.

I don't have gloves.

There's no helmet.

There's no nothing.

Yeah.

OK.

Yeah.

All right.

My second question is, because you're in Geneva,

you know I have to ask this question.

Sure.

Or somewhere in Switzerland.

What watch are you wearing in both vehicles?

That's a great question.

I didn't think about that.

We can come back to you, but I feel like this is important.

I would probably do something older.

I would say, I would be in.

I'd probably do like an old Omega.

For which car?

Probably the same for both.

Because I wouldn't want to be changing jewelry.

It seems like.

Well, but the butler's coming.

That's true.

Yeah.

But I'd leave the watch on.

I'd leave the watch on.

You leave the watch on.

OK.

Yeah.

OK.

Yeah.

All right.

An Omega.

I think so.

An older.

Like, to my dad always had.

I approve of that.

I would do something like that.

All right.

I like that.

I mean, I didn't think about choosing what we're wearing

while we're driving.

We're going to be in a tough one.

Well, that's all I think about.

It's a tough one.

Yeah.

Is what are we wearing?

We're going to be here all day.

So we don't want to do that.

Those are specific to you.

Yeah.

The plane, I'm kind of limited.

You know.

Are you?

I don't think so.

You could wear a suit.

You got to wear a helmet and stuff.

We wear a tuxedo.

You have to wear a helmet and that thing?

Probably.

Yeah.

I think so.

You would wear a tuxedo during your sky riding.

Yeah.

That's something.

James Bond villain right there.

Yeah.

You know.

Tuxedo and the extra.

OK.

Yeah.

What are you wearing, the Porsche?

Probably.

You know, if it's just me and my dog,

I would permanently wear a mechanics jumpsuit.

You know, like Navy Blue.

I would just permanently be in a mechanics jumpsuit.

We'd be wearing like.

Does it have your name on it?

Yeah.

Andrew.

And then I have one.

Thanks for the.

I'd have a vest for the dog that matches.

Oh.

I like that.

OK.

What kind of dog do you have?

Oh.

You don't have a dog.

I used to have a corgi.

Oh, I was going to say a corgi.

I see you as a corgi man.

A corgi would fit in the stunt plane.

Yes.

OK.

I used to see a little corgi sitting in a 9-11.

Adorable.

OK.

We got a lot of categories.

Adorable.

OK.

Those are all great answers.

What's next?

Out of all of our cars, who wins cars and coffee?

I feel like him coming in a plane.

I know, but I'm not landing.

So it doesn't count.

But it's not a car.

And it's neither a car nor a coffee.

Yeah.

So it doesn't belong.

I mean, I'm going to say the Dino.

And when I say the Dino, I mean mine.

Yeah.

You think so?

Why?

Well, because it's the first V8.

Because, sorry, I have something else to say to you.

Yeah.

Because it's not just the first V8.

It's kind of the ugliest Ferrari.

How dare you?

I thought regular 308 owners did not prefer the Dino 308.

I thought it was looked down on.

It's not a Ferrari.

That's the Dino.

It's not a real Ferrari.

It's basically a Fiat.

OK.

Enzo.

Ferrari.

As in Ferrari.

Not my grandfather.

His son.

What do you mean his son?

His son was Dino.

Oh.

Yeah.

We're having a hard time.

What I'm getting at is, in 76, he refused to put the Ferrari badge on these cars to protect

the V12 brand prestige.

But for the American market, the dealers and the owners were very upset by this because

people were buying this car and it had the Dino logo.

Yeah.

And they didn't understand that they were really buying a Ferrari.

So he said, fine, I will swap it out.

This one, however, came off the line with the Dino, excuse me, with the Ferrari emblem

on the hood.

I think it just has a particular prestige.

Am I wrong?

You're giving me a look.

I'm just saying the Dino is that GT4, four-seater Ferrari was never the, like, I don't think

it's winning in Pebble Beach or Cars and Coffee.

Wait, Pebble Beach and Cars and Coffee are separate.

OK.

I'm just saying Cars and Coffee.

All right.

OK.

So you say you're GT4.

I mean, we're battling each other here.

Yeah, that's true.

Andrew?

I mean, the 911, somebody rolls up in this thing with that nice tan, you know, brown leather

interior that Italian nappy leather.

You think your Porsche a wide-bond flare?

I'm just going to, I'm going to go up to people and be like, hey, these flares are metal.

You know, tap, tap, tap.

What if there's a singer there?

Well, then it's all over.

Yeah.

OK.

So I don't think the 911 wins.

When you say a singer, you mean Cher.

Yes.

Exactly.

I think, I don't know, I feel like Cher would be a pretty big poll.

Oh, it would be.

No, it would be.

I think Cher's Ferrari.

But this, so this, you know, the 240, 60, you know, it has flares, although it does have

the flares or those non-flares because it has little like ripples in the sides.

Let me take a look.

But I don't think those are the flares, you know, and it doesn't have the Daytona seats

either.

No, but it's Cher's car.

It's Cher's car.

I'm going to win that every time, every time.

Yeah.

I'm sorry.

All right.

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm swapping out.

I'm going to the Pujo.

I think that that's going to be the.

That would shut down a car.

That would shut it down because of, because of the fact that it's black, I think.

Well, and it's the craziest Ruby rally car.

True.

Of all time.

True.

I don't know.

You're not peening Cher, but that's okay.

Well, we'll see what the fans say.

Okay.

See what the fans say.

All right.

Well, when we, when we have these cars and we bring it to the latest cars and coffee.

Okay.

We are, we are blowing through time, but this is good.

This is all good.

Oh, we got to do what music we're playing.

Yeah.

What's the playlist for your car?

Oh no, don't make me go first.

You go first.

No, no, no, no.

Andrew, go ahead.

All right.

Build our confidence.

1973, 1973, 9-11.

I'm listening to Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young.

Wow.

I'm listening to Bruce Springsteen.

Oh, of course you are.

I'm listening to Rod Stewart, who actually saw last night.

Of course.

Did you really?

Yeah.

At a concert or just somewhere?

No, at a concert.

In Phoenix, Arizona.

You were in Phoenix last night?

Yes.

I played the score.

Wow.

Every once in a while you get so interesting.

But yeah, I think I probably wouldn't be listening to music in the extra.

You got to focus on not dying.

Okay.

Yeah.

Unless you're like transiting to somewhere, you know.

I'm going to fly from here to here.

When you see the movie Top Gun, that's probably what you would have.

Oh yeah.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

But okay, that's good.

What's your playlist for your car?

Pick a car.

Oh, God, me?

Yeah.

Probably.

French music?

Probably MC Solar.

I don't know either.

Oh, too deep for you.

Yeah.

Okay.

He was a French rapper in the 90s.

Oh, that's what I was talking about.

Okay.

That could be for the Peugeot.

The Ferrari.

God, it's a great question.

Yeah.

That's a great question.

I mean, I don't want to pick an Italian.

You know what I really like?

I really do like a bit of Frank Sinatra.

I was going to say Sinatra again.

I was going to do a little Sinatra because of my evening drives.

Yeah.

I feel like that would be the move.

Okay.

What about you?

In the Ferrari, I'm playing share all the time.

Oh, well, obviously.

Yeah.

Of course.

All the time.

In the meter in real life, I play your music as far as you can.

Share with Sonny?

That's a great question.

Yeah, probably.

Yeah, you got to share.

Share would appreciate that.

Yeah.

And then in the Aston, it's probably just like the James Bond soundtrack like all the

time.

So on the nose though.

Yeah, it is.

It is.

Okay.

I mean, go back to the 50s.

I play a little bit of Glenn Miller, you know, like wartime music.

That's true.

Yeah.

Or you could really go opposite, maybe like some serious punk rock.

I would do like sex pistols.

There you go.

There we go.

I would do that.

Yeah.

I would do that.

That would just really, really crank it.

Yeah.

That would upset the people at the tennis court.

No one will be at the tennis court when you roll up.

No.

Okay.

I got to say, if I had a Ferrari, it was one of my choices here.

It would have to be Pau Lerotti.

Which you had a chance.

You know, it's got to be Pau Lerotti.

You know, I'd just be driving everywhere.

Well, that's the thing with the plane, it's top gun.

Right.

Like you're sky riding the dangerous logins, right?

Yeah.

One day you should watch that instead of going to Rod Stewart concert.

We're going to do it.

We're going to do a, we're going to do a show you a Wonder Well.

Oh, is that right?

Yeah.

Adam doesn't know yet, but we're going to do it.

I love it.

This is his first time or any second time.

We're going to project it on the, on the wall.

I love that.

We could put a projector on the wall right there.

Yeah.

Okay.

So we've got cars and coffee.

We've got a couple more questions.

Are you going to do any mods to your car?

No, I would never.

Not a single thing.

I'm a purist.

You know that about me with my, with my scout.

Didn't you customize your scout?

There are only two aftermarket things on that.

Okay.

Everything is either period correct or original to the vehicle.

Okay.

What are they?

I did, I did put, put mudflaps on them, which are aftermarket.

Okay.

Just as I thought they were cool.

Okay.

And I did put a retro radio in because my radio wasn't even the original radio to begin

with.

So Bluetooth.

It does have Bluetooth for safety.

So those are the two things.

It has Bluetooth for safety.

That's right.

What is it?

Oh, so it can give you the, so that when I talk on the phone and I'm not holding a cell

phone.

Oh, okay.

I don't get the same thing.

Hands free.

Okay.

Yeah.

So I wouldn't modify.

It doesn't look yellow when you see it.

The scout?

Yeah.

Well, this is why I said it was, but it was a, it was a original color from 73.

So is that not period correct?

Well, you modified the car.

You painted a different color.

But it was already modified when I got it.

Oh, it was green when you got it.

It was a two tone forest green and brown.

Okay.

So you changed the color of any of your choices?

Not the Pugeot.

Leaving it.

I'm leaving it.

You already want to black out the wheels though.

But I'm definitely murdering out those wheels.

Okay.

That's it.

I'm just saying, I know that that's, you know, it's going to bother people, but I am.

This is your car.

You know, a red car is very loud in my opinion.

But a Ferrari makes sense to me.

Okay.

So I probably would keep it.

Okay.

At the same time, like, could I be down to paint it black and then just have two murdered

out cars?

Then yes.

And to be honest, I would change out the wheels.

On the Ferrari.

Yeah.

Okay.

To put it back to what they were.

What were they?

They would be silver ones.

Would they?

Instead of, are they, your car has gold ones, right?

Yeah.

It's just very loud.

Yeah.

Okay.

Those would be my mods.

The original wheels are included with the sale.

There you go.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's good.

I hope they're not gold.

They would be silver.

Okay.

Great.

Yeah.

I'm in.

Okay.

Andrew.

Any mods on your vehicles?

I would probably put air conditioning on the 911.

Oh, okay.

You know, modern like air conditioning kits.

Okay.

Do they get hot?

Not really.

He does.

Yeah.

I just run hot.

So I, you know, I love air conditioning.

Yeah.

Actually, you know, I used to not like air conditioning.

I don't like, you know, old cars don't need it and all that stuff.

But now I'm just like, it's great.

You know, in the 100 degree days, I would do that and then probably that's it.

Okay.

Yeah.

It seems like a pretty reliable car.

I'd change the color to green.

I'd make it either oak green metallic or an Irish green.

Okay.

It's got to be one of those too.

I don't know if I'd go metallic though because the flat colors look a little better on the

long hoods.

Oh, okay.

That's what I was thinking.

Yeah.

All right.

Okay.

Nothing, but you would never modify that airplane.

Oh, well, you know, I'm not a license.

You would change the color.

I'm not licensed.

Yeah, but you get this.

You're just, you're, you're, I would not, I might do the Patty Wagstaff livery from

the early nineties.

Oh, what does it look like?

Can you describe that?

Yeah.

Red and white checker.

Oh, okay.

Wow.

I gotta say, part of the reason why this plane was so like familiar to me and so, you know,

famous, it used to be in the Microsoft Flight Simulator series.

Sure.

It was a young kid and this was a very, very fun plane to fly around in the Flight Simulators

because, you know, super maneuverable, but it was always Patty Wagstaff's plane.

I can't say I know what you're referring to, but shall I Google that?

Well, you know, like you can do a Flight Simulator game.

Yes.

So Microsoft had their own line of them throughout the nineties.

This is really nerdy stuff.

No, no, you're getting really, we've already lost everyone.

No, I want to hear this.

Yeah.

We're already at an armistage.

I'm interested.

I don't want to know.

Keep going.

Yeah.

Oh, I see it now.

This is cool.

So it's got the red and white checker on it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's really red.

Well, I was going to say the distinction between Patty's plane and this plane in the Barnes

Collection, this is a 300L and the L means low wing.

So they lowered where the body and wing met in the fuselage.

Obviously.

You know, this is just basic things, basic things.

Yeah.

No, I get it.

Okay.

So she is a real bad ass if I might say myself.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, she's 74 years old.

And she's still flying?

I don't think she's still flying.

Wow.

I'm sure she goes up every once in a while, though.

Will you take her up, right?

Oh, yeah.

Sure.

No, she'd be like, you want to die?

And I'd be like, oh, not really.

And she's like, well, we'll get close because I'm sure she gets still out flying anybody

out there.

Okay.

I feel like you should add that to your day.

Yeah.

Do you think she'd want to do the shopping cart message?

Oh, she'd probably, she'd be giving me a thumbs up.

She's like, you know what, that's a little weird person.

But you know, I think it's okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's see.

What about you?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Let's see.

I would have a hard time changing Cher's car.

Yeah.

Because I would be the, I just want to keep it exactly like that.

But I'd probably try and find some like Cher.

Oh, this car has been fully restored.

Yeah.

So it's not exactly, you know, you could, yeah.

She wouldn't recognize it, but I'm sure it's, but I would try and find some sort of like,

either I'd find a way for her to sign it, like sign the dash.

Oh, yeah.

Or take out the glove box panel or something.

Something that, and I'd have some sort of like paraphernalia in there that's like.

Wait, why would you take off the glove car?

Oh, I see to put the, to put the signature there.

Yeah.

To sit like, we're the next to the badge.

So you can open it up and something like that.

And then the Aston.

I mean, I really like the green.

I would, I don't know what I would do.

Do you like the tan interior?

Would you make it a little darker?

Maybe like no.

No, I like the tan.

I don't mind that.

I think, and it's, and it's, it's tough.

I would say, hmm, I would want some sort of like Aston Martin approved dog bed in there.

I'm so glad you said that.

Well, let's talk about the receipt of the dog.

Some sort of like.

Do you see the cutouts in the rear seat of this car?

And I'm like, you just make a Steve platform.

Yeah.

But I like that idea.

Yeah.

With an emblem maybe.

Yeah.

The emblem.

Yeah.

And then it's all, it's made to his specs.

To Steve's specs.

Yeah.

I feel like that would be, that's what I would do.

And then he could just hang out back there.

Because I'd want it with that big window in the back.

I'd want some way of having like an opening in that without opening the thing so he could

just sniff out the back.

Oh, that'd be great.

Yeah.

Oh, interesting.

Yeah.

Well, as some windows, side windows could be used as scoops, like the quarter windows.

What happens when it rains?

Yeah.

Oh, that's okay.

A little bit of water.

There's going to be so much slobber back there anyway.

Slobber is true.

It's raining every day.

It's going to be like it's raining every day.

Yeah.

So that's probably what I would do.

Okay.

We're getting towards the end of our pod here.

Do you guys have any questions you wanted?

Do you have any curiosities?

Any questions?

Yeah, Andrew, if you didn't pick the airplane and you were forced to pick another car, what

car would it have been?

Let me just...

Because I did think that you chose the Nissan.

I did not.

Right.

Which made me really happy.

I would choose the 58.

The what?

The 58 Mercedes.

The Mercedes SL.

Yeah.

Because I love...

You love a Gullwing.

I love a non-Gullwing.

Gullwing.

Oh, sorry.

You want the Roadster.

So I'd get the Roadster because that's conventional doors.

Oh, the Roadster.

Because technically there were two generations of the SL.

You don't want the 300 with the Gullwing.

That's the whole point of that car.

That's the first generation of the SL.

And then the second generation is the conventional door.

The engine ran a little better.

They upgraded some things.

Okay.

Do you have an issue as a man who loves an AC the fact that this is a convertible?

Or is it a convertible?

And is it a convertible?

What do you mean?

It is.

What do you mean?

I don't know.

Does the top come out of the back there?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

All right.

Fine.

Blue fabric.

It's very cool.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I'm looking at the totally wrong SL.

It's the solar one with the red interior.

The Roadster?

Roadster, yeah.

Oh, are we confused?

It looks blue to me, but keep going.

It looks blue?

Oh, you're right.

It's silver.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

It's real cute with the top.

It is a little blue.

There is some blue in that.

Yeah, that's real beautiful.

Yeah.

But I just like that would be such a great car to drive around Malibu.

Okay.

Plus, I mean, you pull up to the rock store or something in a 300 SL Roadster.

Somebody's going to just lose their mind.

Sure.

Guaranteed at the time.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't really like the go-wings the whole point of that car, but I get it.

I get it.

But then somebody who knows SLs will be like, second generation, second generation.

Oh, is that the dream?

Yeah.

Well, I just, I think there's a story of Bruce Meyer and he had one of these with a Corvette

engine in it.

And that would be a lot of fun.

You know, like a 327 Corvette, the eight mounted in one.

All right.

Last question.

This is beautiful.

What?

Yeah, it is.

It's a pretty, it's a, you're basically Keri Grant.

The headlights, it's gorgeous.

Yeah.

It's a, it's had certainly.

There is one drawback.

And you can't, you can't message the people in this.

Oh, yeah.

That's true.

But you'll have to find another way.

You're sending a message every time you go out in public driving this car.

Yeah.

That's true.

Good save.

Well done.

Good save.

Yeah.

Okay.

What?

Two more questions.

One, how do you think your life is going to change with your new vehicles?

Oh, well, I'll have totally different friends.

Yeah.

I'll let go of all of them.

Yeah.

I'll keep you two.

There you go.

You think like what would change honestly if you drive around in these cars?

God, I'm getting giddy just thinking about it.

It's pretty exciting carrying.

Like, okay, Andrew, I'm struggling to get answers out of this one.

Yeah.

I'm just dreaming.

Well, I guess my life would change greatly because I'd be able to fly places.

Yeah.

So I can just go anywhere I want.

Okay.

Do you think you'd meet different people?

Yeah.

Maybe a different person?

Well, I just know that this question.

Would you be going to different concerts?

Probably not.

No.

Probably not.

No.

But I'd say the aviation community is very open.

What is it?

Insular.

Oh, yeah.

It's very close.

Yeah, totally opposite.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

So I just, you know, once you get a plane, you tend to spend more time with plane people.

What are plane people?

Yeah.

What are they like?

I don't know.

Can you spot a plane person without their plane?

Yeah, it's usually in the license plate frame.

Oh.

I'd rather be flying.

Oh, I'd rather be flying.

You know what I mean?

You see, I'd rather be flying.

Would you put that on your Porsche?

Without, without hesitation.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Well, I don't know.

Okay.

Amazing.

Okay.

All right.

Yeah.

Because plane people, like, do you know any plane people now?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

You don't have to have a plane to know plane people?

No.

So, when I was in elementary school, his dad built a plane in his garage.

Like full size?

Full size plane.

Wow.

It's called a velocity, and it's actually a pusher plane.

So, the engine's in the back, and the propeller's going backwards versus in the front, like

a conventional airplane.

It's got the nards in the front, and a delta wing.

It's a really, really cool plane.

So, I grew up with this guy building this plane.

Okay.

And then, you know, my dad worked at the Skunk Works for so many years.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, there's a bunch of aviation, chase people there.

Okay.

All right.

So, what's that sound like?

Well, I got to say, my dad's got a friend who's got a plane at the Agua Dulce Airport.

You know, you know, around on the 14 there?

Of course.

Near Acton, so between Santa Clarita and Palmdale.

Okay.

But he's got an old Stinson airplane, 1940s airplane, and it's just like so much fun to

fly around in.

Wow.

Because the interior of the plane.

I think you need a plane.

Yeah, you do.

I would love for it.

You know how expensive they are.

Well, this is your...

I'll get there one day.

We're rich in this moment in time.

Yeah, you're a business owner.

Yeah, we're very rich.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

How was your life changing?

Do you have an answer yet?

Well, clearly I would be hanging out with you a lot more because you would still...

Oh, wait.

We didn't even do this.

Oh, are you keeping your Ferrari?

Well, that's our final question.

Oh, regardless, you're going to have a new Ferrari.

So, we would hang out a lot more.

I don't know.

Oh, you don't want to hang out with them?

If not with a GT4.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

You're like a four-seater.

I'm in Cher's car.

Like, I'm going to be in Hollywood.

So, you're going to be in Hollywood.

You're club-nobbing in Hollywood.

I feel like it.

Okay.

Like, I feel like I'd meet so many new friends who share his car.

Yeah.

Maybe.

You drive a drop-top Dino 246 anywhere in LA at night.

You're making friends, whether you like them or not.

Yeah.

I don't think that would change, but I think the Aston would change.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

You'd have no friends.

I'd feel like, yeah.

I feel like I'd really...

Your friends would be 89.

Yeah.

Basically.

Or not?

Yeah.

I'd feel like...

So, it turns out my life wouldn't change at all.

That's true.

Yeah.

I think I've been waiting for these cars all my life.

Yeah.

Okay.

Safe bet.

Okay.

What would you change?

I don't know.

I don't think the Pugeot would not really change me.

No?

I don't know.

I don't think so.

Wouldn't we go into rallies or whatever or something?

I mean, not really.

No.

I don't think so.

No.

I think I'd just...

Okay.

I'd find days to just go driving, you know, solo with music loudly and my hair blowing

in the wind.

Okay.

And maybe I'd race around with some folks.

Okay.

But...

Like different folks who are the same scout people?

No, certainly not scout people.

We don't drive very fast at all.

You know, we have to call a flatbed often.

I think the Ferrari would be the changemaker.

Yeah.

I'd probably be hanging out with a lot of Ferrari and Lamborghini people.

Would you join the club of your car?

Probably, because I love a club.

Oh, okay.

Do you know this?

Yeah.

Andrew, would you join Porsche Club?

Porsche owner's club?

Uh, depends on which one.

There's a bunch of them out there.

Yeah, there's a bunch of them.

There's a bunch of them.

I gotta say shout out to the 912 registry.

Yeah.

It's a group dedicated to the Porsche 912.

Sure.

That is the greatest car club on earth.

Okay.

Yeah.

They're just a really tight-knit community.

It's kind of falling apart right now because nobody's really doing anything.

Oh, okay.

All right.

Maybe I should reinvigorate it.

You would do it.

Yeah.

Well, you take the plane.

You let the people know about it.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Final question.

Would you give up your current vehicles for these two?

Do we have to do both or can we keep one and two?

You gotta do it.

You wake up tomorrow, both the cars are gone.

Well, I mean, yes.

And that's tough.

I gotta go with no.

Really?

Wow.

Really?

Because I got a two-plane and a 944 turbo, you know?

A plane?

You would be up there with Patty?

I'd be up there with Patty True.

Yeah.

I'd lose my ability to drive anywhere I want.

You know, I'm actually, I'm thinking sitting here, going over these two cars, I have the

911 and the 300.

It actually gives me anxiety to think that I don't have an off-roader.

I don't have anything to go camping with.

Oh, you like to camp?

You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's like, I really need that freedom.

But you'd have your plane to fly to like Jackson Hole or something.

By the way, you didn't say this, but like, you would lose your cars, but it doesn't mean

you can't buy another, like you can't buy a third, right?

Or is that one up front?

Well, I mean, that's that.

Oh, okay, all right, okay.

That's just like, you just, then you just want it all.

All right, I was trying to cheat a little bit.

Yeah, it's a little bit, no.

Okay.

No, you wouldn't give up your Wrangler for a plane?

It'd be tough.

Wow.

Because I just, I know it too well.

If I get this plane, my life is drowning in aviation fuel costs.

You know what I mean?

And insurance.

Too practical.

Yeah.

Too seriously right now.

You're too practical.

Yeah.

You just give it and go.

No, okay.

Wow.

Are you giving up the Defender?

I would give up both my cars for these.

Oh yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

The Dino, when you guys get home, you're going to watch a show called The Persuaders.

Okay.

Right?

It was Roger Moore.

Oh, I've seen clips of this.

And I gambled him just blanking on the other guy.

He dated Marilyn Monroe.

Tony K.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I just watched some like it hot.

Okay.

One of my favorite movies.

So it was one season.

And the English aristocrat and an American millionaire come together to fight crime.

Yes.

That sounds amazing.

Yes.

So Tony Curtis drove the Dino and Roger Moore drove a Aston Martin.

Not this one, but.

Like a V8.

It was like a V8.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

One that you don't really see.

Yeah, whatever.

So, but yeah, I would totally be fine with a Dino and this Aston.

I wouldn't be able to get anywhere.

Yeah.

Reliably.

No, no, not at all.

That would be a problem.

And I would put again.

But you could ride Steve.

It doesn't matter.

That's true.

Oh, that's a good background.

I would be real.

I mean, I want to believe that I'm so wealthy that I'm putting Steve in the Aston Martin,

but I would be a little sad once the destruction began.

Yeah.

I will say.

But you have the money to just do it again.

Yeah, no, no, no.

But it's like you're playing, right?

True.

I'm still trapped in.

I just think that ultimately, I don't know, maybe I put him in the Dino.

Because it's got no proof.

It's too bad you don't have four seats.

No.

No, he wants the four seats.

That's a family for Ari.

I'll take him.

I'll meet you somewhere.

Put Steve in mine.

Can we talk about a little bit of modern family Ferrari news?

Oh, no.

No, we're not even going to mention it.

No, we're not doing news.

No, we're not talking about it.

We're not talking about it.

No.

OK, that's it.

Well, sorry.

I would like to just say, even though I was very excited to answer that question and

say yes, my scout was my dad's.

So now I'm rethinking that.

You can rethink.

I'm going to rethink that because that would be tough.

I might have to keep them even though I really wouldn't want to.

OK.

OK, what if I said you could swap one?

OK.

Don't deal with it.

All right.

Then the fiat's going and the Pujo is coming in.

OK, so we have the Pujo and the Scout.

That's right.

Enough reliability in there?

Sure.

Why not?

OK, I don't know.

So what makes a scout unreliable?

Is it the electrical system?

It's old.

No, it's just, she's just an old gal with the original motor.

OK.

That's been rebuilt.

But so far, I haven't been convinced to swap the motor out.

So we're just, we're hanging tough.

Enjoy the leaking?

Well, the question really is, does Michael and Tyler enjoy the leaking?

Yeah, that's true.

That's true with the motor.

And the answer is no.

They don't enjoy it.

But I have, it just got fine tuned again and I feel like my leaking is much less than

it ever was.

OK.

All right.

Yeah.

But yeah, I feel like both of my cars are fairly slow.

I'm not.

But you're not in a rush where you have to be.

I know, that's true.

But that's, that's, I don't, I don't know.

I would, I would miss some modern stuff out of that, but I would do it.

I would do it.

You would do it.

Yeah.

I would, I would for sure.

Yeah.

I do prefer the 308 to the Dino as far as a, but yeah, if I, I don't know.

I mean, part of me is like, gosh, I'd keep the defender and just take the Aston.

Oh.

Yeah.

And go full British.

Full British.

I want to say to you, Andrew, though, if you did swap out the Wrangler for the plane, can

you not just take the plane to any national park?

Yeah.

I mean, can't you?

Well, technically the extra is a little inconvenient of a plane because you can't land that one

anywhere.

Oh, is that right?

Now, if we were talking about like a Super Cub or one of the Bush planes, I wouldn't even

question it because that is my four wheel drive vehicle at that point because then you

could just land it on any dirt strip in Alaska.

OK.

Extra.

It's too fragile.

Tiny wheels.

So you come down, yeah, tiny wings, very lightweight construction, very thin aluminum, things like

that.

If you come down and you hit a sandbar and the extra, you're just going in and rolling

and dying.

But I want a story.

Yeah.

But a Super Cub, you know what happens?

Andrew, I'm a balloon tire.

I dream of balloon tires and suspension on the plane.

You have this fetish for living.

OK.

All right.

OK.

All right.

But if you got one, what's your one you keep, one you trade?

Since you and I did this.

I mean, I don't know.

I have more than two cars.

All right.

Well, that's OK.

You're allowed.

Yeah, but you got to, you got, what if you didn't take the plane?

But you want that plane life.

I want that plane life.

Yeah.

OK.

So what are you swapping for the plane?

Your Wrangler?

Yeah, I probably swap the Wrangler for the plane.

In what world though?

No.

Sorry, that doesn't work though.

But that doesn't work.

Right?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Keep your plane in the Wrangler.

Would you do it?

Yeah.

Get rid of the 944 or something.

Yeah.

You know, the adrenaline rush is much higher in the plane.

Yeah.

And then you can still go camping.

Yeah.

You'd probably be the only Wrangler driving to the hangar in the private jet.

True.

Yeah, your private jet.

True.

Well, no, I think, you know, a lot of those guys love those old Willy's Jeeps.

You know, they all got the war.

They all got the war jeeps.

They all got the war stuff.

OK.

It's like parking it in the hangar.

It's not like we're going to drive it.

I think you need to, like, 10-year plan to get a plane.

Yeah.

I feel like that's definitely...

I do have good vision.

We're going to start a good plan.

Oh, you know what?

OK.

Yeah, I'm told that if you have good vision, you should be a pilot.

So...

I feel like there's some other things involved, but...

Well, we're starting well on your way.

Yes.

So, checklist one, good.

OK.

All right.

So...

What are we closing with?

That was it.

We were closing with, basically, if we're going to take the cars or not.

OK.

Yeah.

So, you want to do a closing?

Something more important?

I don't know.

I mean, I...

Are you regretting your choices?

No, I've got one.

If the three of us go out together...

Yeah.

Let's say we're friends in this scenario.

OK.

Weird.

What car are we taking to go out together?

Out...

Where would we go?

That's the first question, maybe.

Well, it'd have to be the four-seater Ferrari.

There's no other...

There's no other car.

No, no, no, no.

We're meeting individually and we're driving separately.

Oh!

OK.

Yeah.

Where do we meet up?

We're going to go to Mr. Chow because we can afford it.

OK.

So, what are we all taking?

Like, what's my dinner car?

Yeah, what's the car you're going to... of your duo that you're going to take?

The Aston has more presence, but I feel like I'm going to keep that as my tennis club car.

Yeah.

And don't forget you have to valet unless they're willing to park you in the front.

Of course they're going to park in the front.

OK.

We're at Mr. Chow's all the time.

That's right.

Yeah.

Of course.

I would take the Dino because I think Cher would appreciate me taking the Dino.

Yeah.

What about you?

Are you taking the plane?

Well, no.

I'm just envisioning the 911 is number one, not getting parked out front, no matter how

expensive it is.

Why not?

Because the valley is just going to be... this is just another blue 911.

Gosh.

No.

No, no, no, no.

Because you're going to be in a tuxedo.

Oh, true.

No, no, that's on the airplane.

He's in a tux on the airplane.

OK.

I'm wearing overalls in this car.

That's right.

And you're...

You're going to be in the shower and you're going to have a dog with him.

That's the deal.

OK.

What are you taking the day?

What are you doing?

Well, I got to take the Dino.

Yeah.

OK.

Yeah.

OK.

Because now we're in the Ferrari club together.

So I got to meet you in the Dino.

Your GT4 though.

Like I'm in a half million dollar car.

This isn't money.

You're in like a starter Ferrari.

Yeah.

And only six years separates them.

Yeah.

Are they available to buy at the exact same time?

No, because it was the newer.

No.

I don't think so.

Because I don't know.

The GT4 replaced.

I think so.

Yeah.

I think so.

Yeah.

Because I'm not...

I mean, I don't even know if yours is getting parked up front.

Of course it's getting parked up front.

Yours is...

I'm giving a 20.

OK.

I'll give a 50.

Your values...

It's like a new Lexus.

The valet is not going to know what's happening.

All right.

Fine.

I'll take the Puscio.

But you know what?

No.

I'm not going to be bullied by you.

I'm taking the Ferrari.

That's part of being a Ferrari owner is being a boy.

I'm taking the Ferrari.

I'm not going to park next because people are going to...

Oh, you're going to park behind me.

That's where you're going to be parked.

No.

That's...

No.

That's...

Yeah.

OK.

All right.

So we got music.

We picked what we would take to dinner.

We picked if we'd trade our cars in.

Hero versus villain.

Who would win cars and coffee?

I think we covered everything.

Yeah.

Good job.

What did you think of day one?

I loved it.

Yeah.

Are you going to take me back for day two?

I mean, we've been doing a blistering pace.

Oh, man.

One every seven weeks, it seems like.

So we're going to try and do a little bit better, but thank you.

Good to see you both.

Thank you guys.

I hope people...

We want to go around.

We're happy that I was here.

You want to play your social media one more time?

Yeah.

Oh, sure.

Sure.

If you'd like to follow me and my ride, which is a 1973 International Harvester Scout

2, you can do so at Vern's 73 Scout on IG.

Very nice.

And just as a note, my nickname is Vern.

The truck is not named Vern.

OK.

Do you want to know why?

Yeah.

Do you know why?

Do I know why the truck is named Vern?

No.

Do you know why my nickname is Vern?

Because it's close to Veronica?

No.

In the 80s, there was a gentleman by the name of Ernest Worrell.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Ernest goes to camp type guy.

Yep.

And he, incidentally, was one of the first people, in my opinion, I could be wrong, who

was the commercial that he used to do, because he was kind of an, he was a comedian, and

then he had the movies.

Sure.

It was a big deal.

But before he had the movies, he was kind of an underground comedian, and then he was

doing a lot of commercials.

OK.

So he would speak to his counterpart off camera, who was the cameraman, whose name was Vern.

So he would consistently say things like, know what I mean, Vern?

Oh, I remember.

OK.

I do remember that.

So that, it just, I picked that up as a kid, and I turned into Vern.

That's how my nickname came to be.

Very cool.

But what's Vern's?

What do you mean?

Oh, meaning Vern's, as in I'm the owner of 73 Scout?

Yeah.

OK.

Got it.

OK.

All right.

Yeah.

That's not what I would have guessed, but that's interesting.

Well, I'm glad I told you.

OK.

I thought it was just short for Veronica.

That's way cooler.

Yeah.

I think that's a good boy.

I feel like, Ernest.

Yeah.

Let's look that up.

OK.

Let's let the people know.

OK.

And now we're leaving.

OK.

Andrew.

What was his last name?

Whirl.

W-O-R-E-L-I, what do you say?

Yeah.

Fictional character.

Like, that wasn't, Jim Varney was the same.

Jim Varney, that's right.

OK.

And we're saying that he, yeah, movies.

I did try to watch Ernest go to camp recently, and it was hard.

What year, what year did this come out?

Oh, God.

80, who knows what?

Early 80s.

I'm thinking of a different guy.

Yeah.

He was not in Cabin Boy.

What year did Ernest go to camp, goes to camp?

Ernest goes to camp was in 1987.

Yeah.

Great year.

It was not his last movie, though.

It was my 1944 turbo.

Oh, see?

Well, then another movie to add to your list.

That is, yeah.

Yeah.

I do love me some 80s movies.

OK.

Wow.

What's the last 80s movie that I saw?

Interesting.

I'm going to get out of here.

OK, Andrew.

Let me plug my, if you guys want to follow me on social media, it's air-cooled turtle.

But right now, we're recording this at my shop, Demand Motorsports.

So give us a follow at Demand Motorsports.

Come and visit us at 1000 Hooks if you get a chance.

And Steve?

No, that's it.

There you know who I am.

It's fine.

It's in there.

Yeah.

We're good.

Follow Steve.

Where do we follow you, Steve?

On cartoons.

Yeah, it doesn't.

Yeah, it means nothing.

Yeah.

And then I try to be clever.

Now, it just makes it look like I'm from Boston.

People are like, what are you doing?

I've never been to Boston.

Exactly.

Yeah.

So, amazing.

All righty.

This is great, guys.

You did it.

I loved it.

OK, awesome.

Thank you both.

Thank you.

I'll see you next time.

See you soon.

Next time.

Vroom vroom.

All right.

Vroom vroom.

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Alfa Romeo Julia

Porsche 911

Hyundai Palisade

Chevrolet Impala

Ferrari Dino

Alfa Romeo 8C

DB2 Aston Martin Db2

Peugeot 205

Pontiac Catalina

Lamborghini Miura

Lancia Stratos

Chevrolet Malibu

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