The Ford Pinto was a small, cheap car made in the 1970s. It had some safety problems that made it famous, but some rare versions are now special to collectors. People remember it because it changed how car safety was looked at.
The Chevrolet El Camino is a car that also works like a small truck, letting you carry things in the back. It was made a long time ago and is special because it looks like both a car and a truck. Sometimes people change other cars to look like this.
The AMC Pacer was a small car made in the 1970s that looked very different from other cars because it was round and had big windows. Some people didn’t like how it looked or worked, but it’s remembered because it was unusual.
The AMC Matador was a medium-sized car from the 1970s that looked strong and different. It was used both for regular driving and racing. People remember it because of its cool style and ads.
The Ford GT is a very fast and special car made by Ford that looks like race cars from the 1960s. It uses new technology to go really fast and is rare. People talk about it because it’s a cool and powerful car.
The AMC Gremlin Levi's Edition was a car made with jeans-style seats and decorations from Levi's, a famous jeans company. It was a fun, special version of the regular AMC Gremlin.
The Chevrolet Chevelle is an old American car that many people like to fix up and make look cool. It was made a long time ago and is known for being strong and fast.
The Ford Mustang Fox Body is a version of the Mustang made between 1979 and 1993 that was smaller and lighter than before. People like it because it’s easier to work on and can be made faster. It’s important because it changed how Mustangs were built.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a famous American sports car that’s been around for a long time. Some versions weren’t liked at first but became popular later because people saw how special they were. It’s a car many people admire for being fast and stylish.
The Dodge Challenger is a fast car that looks tough and has very strong engines called Hellcat and Supercat. It’s a favorite for people who like powerful cars that are fun to drive. It’s famous for being loud and quick.
The Pontiac Fiero is a sporty car made in the 1980s that had its engine in the middle of the car, which is unusual. It was cheap when new but had some problems that made it less popular at first.
The Toyota MR2 is a small sports car made by Toyota that has its engine behind the seats. It is fun to drive because it handles corners well and feels balanced.
A replica kit lets you build a car that looks like a fancy or rare car, but it uses parts from a different car so it's usually cheaper and easier to fix.
The Ferrari F40 is a very fast and special car made to celebrate Ferrari’s 40 years. It looks unique and was one of the fastest cars when it came out. People talk about it because it’s very rare and exciting.
The Ferrari 308 GTS is a famous sports car from Italy with a removable roof panel and a powerful engine. It was popular in the 1980s and appeared on TV shows.
The Buick Grand National is a fast car from the 1980s that was all black and had a turbo engine to make it go really fast. People like it because it looks cool and is powerful. It’s special because not many were made.
The Buick GNX is a special, rare version of the Grand National that was made to be even faster and stronger. It’s very valuable because only a few were made. People love it because it’s a super powerful car from the 1980s.
The BYD Seal is a new electric car made by a company from China. It looks modern and can drive a long way without needing to recharge. People talk about it because it shows how electric cars are getting better.
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a big, strong SUV that can drive on rough roads and last a very long time. People trust it because it doesn’t break down easily and works well every day. It’s popular for being tough and dependable.
The Dodge Challenger is a strong and fast car that people have loved since the 1960s. Sometimes, older versions didn’t have radios to save money or weight. It’s famous for looking cool and having a lot of power.
The Plymouth Cuda is a fast and strong car made in the 1960s and 70s. People like it because it looks tough and can go very fast. Some special versions didn’t have radios, which makes them rare and interesting.
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Hey, everybody. You've tuned in to shift and steer, and the gang's not here. It's just
Matt and myself. So that might be a good thing. It might be a bad thing. You'll have less laughter,
of course, and some comments from the side. But hey, we're missing Aaron today. He had something
to do, so that happens. He's driving. He's always driving.
Always driving. That is correct. Is he afraid to fly?
I don't know, but no, we flew to Syracuse. He just came with us. He wasn't like
cowering underneath the front seat or anything like that, like a puppy. He just-
He did have a pacifier, though. I remember that. That was different.
You know what? I like driving, too. What can I say? But I think he just takes these
trips and drop of a hat like, oh my god, let's go to here, or let's go to there.
So, but whatever. He's driving. Although this one, I think, is more just doing
errands and getting stuff done for his dad. Exactly.
And between them moving to Hawaii and the residency that Sammy's doing with the guys,
they started rehearsals today down here in Orange County.
Yeah. So, because I talked to Mikey yesterday and he was saying that, yep, gotta go to work.
Gotta go to work. They actually started yesterday. I'm a day off. But no, we had fun.
He's good. He'll be back next week, I'm sure. And you know what? Before we get going, let's
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Matt. Yeah. Wow, man. It's been a lot going on. I had my birthday last week as we talked about.
That's right. Both you and Aaron's big birthday. Yeah. And I put it off. I didn't do any celebrating
on Friday or Saturday. You had the neighborhood garage sale. Yes. How'd that go? Did you buy
more stuff than you sold? No, no. Let me put it this way. I got rid of a lot of square footage of
stuff. It wasn't like a big money maker, but I was so happy because I got rid of square footage.
I literally, you've been to my conference room where we used to do the show since my mom passed,
and I had all that stuff in there, right? Yeah. Well, half of it's gone now. So I got rid of that
much square footage and about that much at the house in my garage shop as well. So I was pretty
happy. I got rid of big stuff like wine racks, big metal wine racks. There was this big, I don't
want to call it a painting. It was a piece of art made out of different pieces of wood that looked
like an old farmhouse that my mom had in her house. It was big, it was heavy, and stuff like that,
plus a lot of appliances and things. And I put out a bunch of, you know what's weird?
Christmas stuff sells year round. Yeah. And I had a bunch of Christmas stuff that she had that I
put out. Now, some of it was vintage. I had this one, it was, you know me and vintage stuff. I'm
usually like a magnet to vintage stuff, but I was so fixated on finally getting rid of stuff
and making room that I put all this stuff out. And I'm standing there in like about the third
or fourth guy that came by on Saturday morning. He walks up and he goes, wow, this is old. It's
in really good shape. He goes, it's probably worse. And then he kind of stopped himself. This
kind of, he was going to say worse something. And he goes, I go, and I start looking at it over his
molded Santa Claus sitting on a yule log with like, you know, Christmas-y like poinsettias
and, you know, holly and stuff like that. And a little plastic thing that was stuck in the yule
log set of happy holidays. And I'm thinking, oh man, I shouldn't have put that out. I probably
could get more money for that on the vintage market. And he goes, he sets it down. He goes,
what do you get to have for it? And I went 20 bucks. And he goes, okay, let me think about it.
And he walks around, looks at some other stuff, and he ended up not buying it. And I was like,
whenever I picked it up, put it back behind and Charlotte comes walking out. She goes,
why is that sitting over there? I go, I'm not selling that out here. She goes, what? You find
out it was worth more or something? I go, it's worth like 45, 50 bucks on eBay. And I said,
I didn't put it out. But I did sell a bunch of other stuff that I was kind of, okay,
probably get more for it on eBay. Problem with eBay though is you put it up. First of all,
you got to photograph it. Then you got to do the listing. Then you got to wait. You don't know how
long, you know. But there's fees and taxes and all kinds of stuff. And you might have to wait a year
to sell it. And my whole idea is to make square footage back. And so anyways, it went good.
Only made like a hundred bucks on the sale, but I got rid of. So I was Matt,
I was even giving stuff away. There was this one lady, she walked up and she was looking at some
stuff. And it, they were silk plants, you know, people don't buy silk plants that often. Although
right after I gave a few away, somebody bought some other ones. But I'm sitting there and I go,
she looks at him and she goes, how much? And I told her, and they were like two bucks each. It
was like, you know, two bucks. Okay. And she walks around and I go, do you like this? She gets big
grin. I really like them, but I probably shouldn't buy them. And I go, just take them. And she goes,
what? I go, just take them. And she goes, okay, she grabbed them up, put them in her car, you know,
was out of there before I changed my mind. And then I had a mid century modern magazine rack.
Now, how many people buy magazine racks nowadays, right? Yeah, right. Yeah. I mean,
who uses cash either. You know, what? Also cash, because I'm thinking about your garage sales,
like who's got two bucks? Nobody's got two bucks. Oh, well, I did take some Venmo. I took quite a
few transactions on Venmo. But this, in fact, the woman I'm talking about, she paid Venmo.
But she came up and she went right to that. And I, and at first I thought, okay, she's a reseller.
She probably goes to the, you know, vintage swap meets or something. But she goes, she's looking
at it and she goes, I think this will go with the color furniture I have. And I go, oh, cool. And
she goes, I have a mid century modern home. And I say, oh, great, great. So she bought that and
some silk plants and some other stuff. And then Venmo'd me the money. So it was good. It was good.
And the realtor that put this, that puts this on every year, I don't know how much he spends on
this thing. But he brought by signs, had him up in my yard the night before he printed a map that
he would give to each of the people. There were 45 people that were participating, maybe 48.
And he printed a color map where everybody had a number. So I would give them to people,
other people would give them to people so that they would all know where all the things were.
And he had a guy come by at about six in the morning when I was setting up with a,
one of those jugs of Pete's coffee, you know, they like, you get them from Starbucks also.
And a dozen disposable cups, a big jug of creamer and a thing of sweeteners.
And then a dozen donuts and a variety of donuts. And he goes, here, these are for you and give
them to your guests. And so I made a little bit of money on that because I sold the cups of coffee
at three bucks piece. And the donuts were buck 50 each, you know, and people, you know, they come
in the morning, they want it. No, I didn't really do that. But, but no, I gave away a lot of donuts.
People liked that. And it was great. I ate a donut in the morning and had a hot cup of coffee.
So it was, it was a really cool deal. But what does the real estate agent get out of it?
Well, that's what Charlotte asked me. She goes, he spends a lot of money and time for this,
because he printed all these really nice hang tags and printers to get people to participate.
But when you think about it, when I'm ready to sell my house or buy another house or something
like that, I'll probably think of him because, you know, realtors are one of those things that
you see their signs all the time. But how do you choose a realtor? You know, I mean, I would,
and he's come by my house before just, you know, hey, if you ever want to sell your house, and I
talked to him a little bit, the guy's a good salesman because he's one of those salesmen that
remembers people by a certain thing. Because he came up to me later in the day, he stopped at
every one of the houses just to thank us for participating and ask us how things were going.
And I'm talking to him and he goes, you're the skateboard guy, right? And I said, yes, that's
part of my background. And he goes, I remember talking to you once and I remember you're the
skateboard guy and you know, there's probably some guy down the street that you're the Microsoft
dude or you're the, yeah, sure. Yeah, okay. It makes people feel, you know, a little more comfortable.
And so I probably get some listings out of it. So anyway, yeah, good. Glad I went well. I got
to clear out some stuff. I still got a lot to get. Oh, I got to save the funniest thing.
So I'm standing there and it's probably about eight in the morning and this guy pulls up and
comes walking up and he goes, looks at me kind of, and he goes, your name's Brad Fancia.
And I go, it is. And he goes, and he goes,
I listened to shift and steer. I've been listening forever. And I heard you mention,
I didn't even remember mentioning that I was having a garage sale. But he goes,
I heard you mentioned you were having a garage sale. And, and he goes, so I looked you up online,
which is the other crazy thing, you know, we forget that, you know, somebody could just look
you up now. And, and he goes, I came up and I said, I'm sorry to disappoint you. And he kind of
laughed and he went, what do you mean? I go, I go, well, you probably thought coming, you're,
because he drove all the way up from Huntington Beach. And I go, you probably thought, oh man,
he's probably got a bunch of cool car stuff and collectibles that he talks about and everything.
And I said, and it's a bunch of old ladies stuff. That's a silk plant that you're giving away.
I should have given him a silk plant. You're right. Yeah. But it was funny because he drove
all the way up. Thank you for coming. I appreciate it was great meeting you. But it was, I felt bad
because he probably thought he's probably going to have some cool vision stuff, maybe some BMX
stuff. I told Charlotte, she wouldn't let me do it though. I was going to put a couple of my BMX
bikes against the garage store and to get people to stop. And, and she goes, she goes, some guys
are going to pull me. Oh my God, how much is that Schwinn with Moto mags? And I was going to say,
oh, they're not for sale. They're just sitting out here. I was riding them around early and she
goes, well, you're not going to get the right people. If they're stopping for that, they're not
going to be buying, you know, sweaters that your mom had. And I go, yeah, that's, that's true. That's
true. Well, it's good. Glad I went well. Hey, you know, we're always talking about 80s cars on
here, right? And Jalopnik put up an article about some of the 80s cars that nobody really wanted
when they were new, but now are beginning to get like maybe a cult following,
nostalgic following. And in one case, a real hardcore following. And I thought we could talk
about some of these. The very first one they talked about, and I remember these, remember the Ford
Pinot Ford guy. Did you ever have a Ford Pinot, man? No, I didn't want a Ford Pinot man. Not really.
I did. I wanted one once because I went to the street machine nationals. And I saw one that
looked like a pro stock car that some guy had built for the street. And it was so cool. I thought,
that's neat. And then that, you know, but that kind of, you know, that phase went over in about
15 minutes. Yeah. But I remember my mother-in-law had a Pinot. She had one of the, I remember seeing
a lot of them that were silver with blue stripes, with the blue kind of sticker stripes down the
side, you know, like they were supposed to look like pinstripes, but yeah. And it was, it was kind
of a silvery blue with a dark blue pinstripe. And I remember hers had, it must have been a little
bit later model because they went to a glass hashback, hatchback. Do you remember that one?
Yeah. Instead of the metal-framed one. And I think she liked it. She never had any problems with it.
But it was a very popular car, one of their best selling cars for Ford. It just,
that little thing that nagged them about cars blowing up when they got rare ended.
That just kind of bothered me. There was that. There was that. But one of the cars that they
were talking about that's become of interest to collectors is the very rare Pinto panel wagon,
which kind of was a carry-on from the van craze because it had like one of those van windows in
the back from the factory, had a multicolor stripe. Do you remember that one? Oh, yes. So I just
looked up the pictures. I do remember that. Yeah. It had like a, like a, like a, like a porthole glass,
you know, like in the back. One of those bubble windows, like a van, a custom van would have.
And I don't think, I wonder how many of those they sold. They couldn't have sold many. I mean,
but, but one sold recently at auction for $22,000 and another one for $18,000. So
I bet that, that Haggerty line just swooped up a little bit on those.
I'm, I'm, I'm guessing so. How many of the wagons did they make? You know what I'm guessing? I'm
guessing that Haggerty didn't even have a thing, a graph for that car.
You trying to find how many they sold? I was just trying to see if like,
how many Ford Pentos they might have sold. A ton. I mean, the Ford Pinto was a,
a good selling vehicle for them, I believe. From 70 to 80, 71 to 1980. So yeah, that had a good run.
Had a good run. That, that blowing up thing got, it happened like two or three times,
they did a quick little change to it on a recall and solved it. But when was the last time you
saw a Pinto on the road? I, you know, it's funny because I haven't, I can't recall seeing one on
the road in the longest time and you're looking at the production numbers over that nine years.
3,173,491 cars. Where did they all go? In 72, in 73, 74, the production numbers were 480,484,000
and 74,544,000 of those cars. Like that's a lot of cars for a single year. That's a ton.
Like, there's so many and where are they? Exactly. They just all disappeared. I mean,
I'm looking on eBay and there's not even one for sale on eBay. I put in Ford Pinto,
nothing comes up but parts and model cars. That, that just shows you how things can just disappear.
I'm going to Ford Pinto for sale, just general, see what comes up. Yeah, here's one. Yeah. Ford
Pinto as low as $59.95 on CarsForSale.com. Okay. All right. I'm looking at this one.
They're going to be, did they all just sort of rust and fall apart? I don't know enough about
they weren't like Vegas. They had a pretty good,
pretty good, despite their horrific portrayal of Pinto madness.
Oh my gosh. There's a 73 Ford Pinto in Laverne, California, $14,900. But Matt,
you can finance it for 84 months for only $206 a month.
How many miles are on it though? Let's see if I can get that information while we're talking.
Let's see. It is a gold glow with white vinyl top, automatic transmission.
I'm not seeing a mileage on here. I wonder if that means it's real low or really high.
Oh, I kind of feel like if it was low, they would say so. Yes. Yeah, you're probably right.
Approximately 117 lawsuits were brought against Ford in connection with rear-end accidents in the
Pinto. You know what though? When you just, what you just said, how many of them were sold, 117
is not many lawsuits at all. Yeah, after the millions that they sold. I mean, that's kind of
a 72 Ford Pinto hatchback,
61,236 miles. You could get it for $59.95. Finance that puppy and $104 a month.
That's low miles. That's low miles. Man, I just found a 1980 Ford Pinto made into an El Camino.
Can you see that? Yeah, I kind of say, oh yeah, yeah. It's got like scallops on the side,
some slotted mags, 21,370 miles. Matt, you're going to have to pay a little more for this one.
$15,900 because a little out of my range. It's a little out of my price. Here we go. Here we go.
74 panel wagon with custom paint. 73,000 miles, $69.95. Let's see if you can see.
Okay, so you get the panel wagon for seven grand. And it's got a custom red paint job.
Looks like custom hood and some custom chrome slotted mags. Seven grand.
Yeah, it's about $6,700 too much for me. Here's one that the paint is totally faded.
The hood's all wonky. This is never a good sign when you show a car for sale
and the dealer's got to get their margin. It's like...
You know what though, the four dealers made it up on the $17 oil changes back then.
Right. Yeah, I guess if you needed tires, it was pretty cheap.
Tires were dirt cheap back then, but that's one of the reasons. The used ones just got
thrown in the landfill. They didn't have all these rules and regulations which
they have come which are good now, but how much was a...
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Okay, Matt, we're back, and I know you've been waiting on the edge of your seat,
but if you wanted to buy in 1974 an F-78 14-inch tire, it's going to surprise you.
What are you thinking, F-78 14-inch tire, which was kind of a performance tire back then.
It's what most of the muscle cars came with. I don't know, 40 bucks.
Keep going.
It's more.
It says $118 a tire, $475 for a set. That's hard to believe.
I think I've got bad information here. It seems expensive.
I think that's what they're trying to sell me a tire today for.
Yeah, I got bad info. I'm sorry, everyone. I'm sorry, everyone. Google let me down.
Google let me down on that one. Hey, let's continue on our list. We got a couple more cars.
This next car was one that a buddy of mine, when it came out, his dad bought one,
and he proudly pulled up to my parents' house in it, and I was like, what the hell is that thing?
It was a DeLorean. I remember the stainless steel body was so amazing.
Everything was cool about that car until you found out what powered it,
and what a dog it was. There is a community around that. There's a very loyal community
around that. There's a documentary film around that. There's lots of stories around that.
There's definitely a DeLorean enthusiast. There's some stories about the DeLorean, man, for sure.
One of the things about DeLorean is they sat on lots. They had rows and rows of them,
and you could pick one up brand new, pretty cheap back in the day because they didn't sell,
and now, as you said, there's loyal followers and a lot of people that dig them.
The next one came out in my driveway one morning, and one of these was sitting on bricks,
and the Fittipaldi wheels that used to be on it were all gone, Matt.
Yeah, I remember. Pontiac Fiero.
Yeah. It was a red one with Fittipaldi wheels, and my brother from another mother,
Steve Shete, who was my roommate at the time, he had this car, and he came walking back in,
and he goes, you're not going to believe what happened. I go, what happened? I was like, oh man,
because sitting right next to it was my Monte Carlo SS with weld wheels, and sitting in the street
was Charlotte's 1980 Monza with center lines, and they went for the Fiero with the Fittipaldi's.
I was so happy. I was so happy. But they're saying that Fieros might be like, I never
see them at the auctions. I do not see any. Now, the only Fiero that I ever really liked,
sorry, Steve, was the one that they built as a design project. Do you remember that one?
It was in the magazines, had the scoop coming up over the top. It was a Indie Pace car, actually.
It was really cool. It was a really cool, and I believe it had a small block in it.
Okay. Oh, I remember the Indie Pace car one. Maybe not the one you're thinking of.
No, you're thinking of the white, the two-tone one, right? Yeah, yeah.
They had a small scoop. I think there might have been two of them. Maybe the other one
was like a Pace car for something else or a Concept car or something like that.
But it was pretty cool. I don't know if that's taking off quite as much. I think there's more
of an audience around the Toyota MR2, right? A lot of people like those. I mean,
I just don't know that the Pontiac Fero, well, one of the things Pontiac went away,
that kind of killed some of it, you know? Yeah. But I wonder what they go for nowadays.
Let's look here. Well, here's one popped right up when I put it in, and it's $36,000, Matt.
It's on eBay. It's a 1986 Ferrari replica kit on a Fiero chassis. Yeah.
So they're saying that's worth more, not less? Exactly. Okay. These things, I see an 87 Pontiac
Fiero, 51,000 miles for $14,500. I see an 86 with 69,000 miles. I don't know why it's in the exotic
car trader, but $13,500. So, you know, they're in the $10,000 to $15,000 range. I don't know
anything about them if they're reliable, if they take a lot of... And my question would be,
where do you get parts for it? You know, where do you get parts for it if you need that?
I'm seeing that little Ferrari bodied one. Did you find that one? Yeah. Low mileage.
It is low mileage. You should send this to Aaron. I feel like he might grab this.
That's got Michigan plates. It's kind of funny because it looks really good at the front. Like,
wow, man, that's a great... Oh, what happened to the back? It got chopped off. You know, it's...
Yeah, it's a little... Yeah, it sits really high. I don't get the gap between those tires and the
wheel wells. Yeah, I gotta admit, this one, when you look at... Usually the interior is what kills
these cars because you look at them and, you know, it looks like a Corvette or it looks like...
This one doesn't look too bad. He's got a Ferrari looking steering wheel in it. It's got a leather
interior. Yeah, I think Aaron should buy this one. Yeah, you could drive around like... Oh,
do you see the license plate on it? Magnum PI. It's the wrong Ferrari. This is bodied like an F40.
It's the wrong Ferrari. No, this is bodied like a 308. It even says on the back, 308 GTS.
Are you looking at the same one? Oh, no, I was looking at the little F40 one.
Oh, I'm looking at a Magnum PI one. Yeah, there's one that looks... What you gotta do is go to
Google and put Pontiac Fiero for sale and it comes up right at the top. It's actually not a bad one,
but they want 36,000 bucks for it though. I could buy a real 308 for that much.
That is true. Okay, and that kind of rounds them out. I mean, let's see what other... I mean,
the 80s cars that really are pulling in the bucks are the Fox bodies, the G bodies,
you know, the Monte Carlo SS, the Grand Nationals, the GNXes, all of those. Man, I wanted to buy a
GNX because I've had a Grand National that I got rid of and mine was ultra rare because it was a
first year car, factory leather interior, but I always thought about buying a GNX and I really
wish that's one of those cars I wish I would have because for the longest time, you could get a
zero-mile car in plastic for like around 35,000 bucks and I kept saying, well, because they did
not move. They didn't move for decades and I thought, yeah, they're never going to. I can always get
one of those. Yeah, big mistake. Can't always get one of those because they have a tendency to all
of a sudden spike. Yeah, you know, we had this conversation a few times as well with the bringer
trailer people talking about how 80s cars starting to move, now 90s cars are starting to move. And
not just the low-mile stuff, like, you know, an Acura Prelude or something low-miles or
Type R with zero miles on it's going to get good dollars, but you know, now they're all
starting to creep up. What are the 2000s? Because I got that 2001 Yukon, man, you know, we could
yeah. I'm back on a kick to get that thing back on the road. I drove it over the weekend
around the block, you know, like I do every couple of weeks and I went, there's nothing wrong with
this truck. So I started looking at, you know, aftermarket replacement of the catalytic converters
and I thought, okay, thousand bucks, I can put aftermarket cats on it and I get that oil leak
fixed on the main seal and I could drive it again. I just got to get it through smog and it had no
problem passing smog. It was just the light came on because the cat was showing it was clogged up
at the O2 sensor. So what the heck? Shouldn't I be able to just do it? The only problem,
it's not a job I want to do in my driveway because that rear main seal, I looked it up on
YouTube and you've got to drop the transmission. That thing's got a giant transmission in it.
I don't have a transmission jack and then once you get it out, well, first you got to drop
the transmission cross member. You got to take the exhaust out. Then you've got to drop the tranny.
Then once you do that, there's 16 bolts that hold the main seal played in and I love the guy who
did it. He goes, it's really a pretty straightforward, easy job. Of course, he's got the motor out of
the truck and on a hoist and he's just going, I'm thinking, I'm going to have my hand up between
the body and I think trying to get these 16 bolts out. Then you got to have this special
alignment tool that you got to buy that aligns everything when you put the new seal on. I was
just like, you know what? I think the transmission shop down the street could do it pretty easy and
send me a bill and maybe that would be right. Yeah. Okay. Then if it gets done and it leaks,
I take it back. I don't go, damn it. I've had that kind of stuff happen. Don't you hate it when that
happens? How much more involved would the work need to be before you just decide to be like,
well, why don't I just get the engine out and kind of rebuild it and freshen it up anyway?
Oh, it would have to be more than a rear main seal. I mean, I've pulled so many motors,
but it's really different in a car than in like a Yukon where it's sitting way up off the ground.
Some of the stuff you do from underneath, it'd be easy, right? But the other thing is
that's starting to get into the era where everything has a clip, and all of a sudden,
the clips start breaking or they don't come apart or, you know, where does this one go?
You know, I mean, it's not a straightforward. Yeah. I was at my garage the other day where
my guy that maintains my daily drivers and he had a Toyota Land Cruiser in there and it had
something fairly minor, but they had to take both front seats and the entire dash out to get to it.
And I was like, you know, I was just like, my eyes got big and I was like, oh my god to do,
I can't remember what it was he had to do. But he goes, he goes, this is what's so ridiculous
about the new cars. He goes, I told the guy how much it was going to be to fix it. And the guy
went, what to do that? And he goes, he came by yesterday and he saw the car and he goes, oh my
god, you know, just taking the seats out is a major thing, you know, and then and then taking
that dash out and oh god, it just what a what a spaghetti wire. It's funny, funny that you
mentioned that. So somebody in Florida bought a new Porsche. They bought a GT3.
281,940 bucks. The guy buys it.
281,940 bucks. So he buys it from this dealer and then he's like, this one's not right.
Okay, so then he takes it to another dealer and they said, this car's been apart and hasn't been
put back together correctly. Like they went underneath it and just whatever, just shields on
the bottom, you know, things like that. They're like, yeah, it was taken apart. It's not great. So
he goes to another dealer and they said the same thing. They're like, this car's been apart.
So he starts tracking it down and it turns out it was used as a technician teaching tool,
but it was sold to him as a brand new car, as a display vehicle. They're like, it's a display vehicle
so we don't have the window sticker. All right, he goes, but but it's a GT3. It's only got 34 miles
on it. You know, it's a brand new car. We're going to we're going to charge you the full,
you know, the full ticket on this thing. And so he ends up lemon-logging the car,
but he's out taxes and all this other stuff. So now he's suing Porsche North America. And he's like,
I shouldn't have been able to buy this car. I don't know what this thing is, some sort of test
tool for technicians and somebody owes me some money here. This is not right. Yeah. And then
it came up later where they said the dealer said there was no window sticker on it because it was
a demo and they didn't give him a window sticker. And then somehow in his paperwork in the glove
compartment, he found the window sticker. The window sticker from Porsche cars North America says,
do not sell because it was a demo vehicle for technicians and some dealer pawned it off as
as a GT3 and charged him the full rate on it. How did that car not get crushed or sent back to?
Right. Yeah. So.
Or is there some paperwork somewhere that said it was sent back or it got crushed or something
like that? And it got sold. Right. I don't know. It sounds like this guy has a pretty strong case.
Yeah, it would sound like it. Like maybe he should end up with a free GT3. I mean, for all that
asshole. Yes. And yeah, this is, it's potentially bad because now it's just like borderline fraud
and it's the dealer responsible, it's Porsche responsible. And what was the notifications
between Porsche and the dealer to clarify that this car can't be sold? Who's hiding the fact?
Like it seems like there's a lot of people to blame. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of people
up the chain that are that are to blame on that one. But you're right. If you're if you're Porsche
and this is already hitting the news, do you, do your lawyers just settle and go,
we got the car back. It's a lemon law car. You know, we'll settle. Here's the money. You come out
even or just Porsche go, sorry, you should have never had this car. We're sending you a new GT3
comped. And it sounds like, oh, I got a free $300,000 car. Okay, but how much are they going to pay
this guy if there's punitive damages? Right. Because he was like, I never drove the car. The
car was like in service departments for like a year. And I was paying on it at the time or
like whatever, insurance. And it's like, it's such a headache. So maybe he didn't,
you know, when he lemon law that they gave him some money back. But so he's not out
$281,000. But what does it really cost Porsche to go? We're going to make good. We're going to send
you a car. That's what they should do. And have him sign a non-disclosure. He's not going to go out
and bag on them and everything like that and be done with it. Right. But it's not what's going
to happen. They're going to settle in court between lawyers. I was going to say, because his
attorney's going, oh, we can make lots on this. Right. And then by the time this guy's done paying
attorneys, he's still going to be underwater on this. I've got to be honest, I've had this happen
to me. I had a car that I bought, brand spanking new, and I had a serious problem with the dash.
And they wouldn't do anything under the warranty. They told me it had no warranty. And I said,
it's a brand new car. And they said, Brad, we sold you that SEMA car for a dollar.
And you're like, you built the dash. And you're like, you built the dash. We can't warranty it
if you built it. That'd be great. I will tell you something that's funny. I was building one of
I won't say which company, but they sent me some parts to use. And the airbag, they sent me,
when I opened it up, I opened the box up, and the steering wheel was there. And it had the airbag,
because we were going to recover everything. And so they sent me another one that we could have,
the steering wheel leather covered. And I take the cover off the airbag, so I could give the
steering wheel to the to the guy that was going to do it. And across it, there's this red label
sewn to it. It says airbag and NERC. And I go, what the hell? So I call them up. And I said,
I almost said who I called. I called them up and I said, and I said, hey,
I got this real weird thing, the airbag that I was supposed to put on this vehicle. I go,
we took it apart to leather cover everything. And it says that the airbag's a NERC. And I go,
it's got a big red label on it. And they were just silent. And they were like,
they sent you one of those. And I go, basically, it was kind of the same thing.
Off of an old test vehicle, they had just yanked the steering wheel off because it was brand new,
but it was just on it. And they just put in something that takes the room of an airbag.
But it still got the cord that plugs in everything. And I mean, they were like,
okay, you got to get that back to us. Because I mean, if somebody plugged that in,
thought they had an airbag and then, you know, I mean, right, right, right. So they send you
the steering wheel off of like, you know, a test vehicle, not going, not looking at the airbag in
it. They just give you the whole unit and go, yeah, here's a vehicle. Yeah. So yeah, there you go.
That's how you make mistakes like that. Weird things like that happen. But I can't see a whole
car. Oh, this guy needs the dealership needs a car. Just send him that one on lot three. Yeah,
that one over there, you know, how did it go from like a technician teaching tool to
being sold by the dealer? Like I just don't get how the portion went through the system. The
only thing I can think is that possibly they felt it had gone through some checks and balances,
and it was great for like a dealer demonstrator. Why put another car out? We can use that as a
demonstrator for a certain amount of time or something like that. Or maybe they took it to
one of those Porsche experiences and drove it. And then somebody, you know, you know, people
change, right? District manager moves on, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Yeah. And, and they go,
what are we doing with that car? We've used it, you know, here. And they, oh, well, we're gonna,
we're gonna sell or it was a display vehicle at the Porsche experience, like they said.
And after a year, they go, oh, let's just sell it, you know, who knows? Yeah, I think you're right.
Once it, once the like, the paper or just sort of the designation of it changes, it goes from
a technician tool. And they're like, all right, we're done with this vehicle. And then somebody
goes, can we use it as a test drive vehicle? That way we don't have to take something new
or buy a car and we'll just use this for test drives, right? And now, now that it's designated
as a test drive vehicle, every, you know, every salesperson's going, listen, I know the rules here,
the rule is everything is for sale, right? Because that's just sort of the mantra a dealer would
have, right? Everything's for sale, you know, don't ever tell a customer, no, you know, be smart,
everything's for sale. And they go, well, we have this demo vehicle now, not knowing the history
of it, because it's got a new designation, demo vehicle. And they're like, here you go. And then
somebody's going, where's the window sticker? And they're like, I don't know, I don't have a window
sticker on it. It was a demo vehicle. That's what's weird. Nobody ever looked in the glove box?
Nobody looked in the glove box. Yeah, come on. Right. And you just look in there when you're
prepping it for the customer, you'd look and see what's in there, you know. Well, here, again,
this is how it gets overlooked is it goes to like the PDI department, right? They're going to,
they're going to deal with prepping. Now, it's already been a demo vehicle, so they're not doing
a lot of PDI on it. So like, oh, it's sold. So now send it to the guys in the back lot,
have them wash it, check everything, fill the tires, whatever, you know, and then bring it back.
They weren't doing a full PDI. They weren't pulling off plastic and checking like,
you know, things in the glove compartment. And the salesman was just like, is the car ready? I
needed to deliver to a customer. So why even look in the, in the, you know, you could open
the glove compartment, well, the books are in there, the keys are in there, like whatever. Yeah.
And then even if the guy's cleaning the car and getting it ready, saw a window sticker in there,
they're probably thinking it's supposed to be in there. Oh, they're out of the loop. They're out of
the loop. Yeah. They didn't like unfold it and read the little fine print that says, do not sell.
This is a, this is a. And if they did, they went, hey man, not my job. Yeah. Like, I don't know what
this is. Yeah. All right. So I guess just, it could just be overlooked again and again by,
by just no real checks and balances. It's, it's pretty amazing when you think about it, but,
but there's stories of cars that were imported in the 80s back in the Coking cowboy days that
got dealer prep, got delivered to somebody and, and all of a sudden they were doing something,
they find kilos of Coke stuff, you know, in the, in the quarter panel or something like that. And,
you know, I, it's. That's a win-win. You've got yourself a new to Lotus. Yeah, I just paid for
my car. It's full of drugs. You said this card never been driven in the snow. I found bags of
it all stashed everywhere. Exactly. Hey, as we ramp this show up, I want to tell everybody that
I'm doing this series of videos on YouTube. You might have seen it if you follow me on social
media and the, it's, it's saving the Chevelle. It's about going to get my Chevelle, bringing it back.
And then after that we'll go into the restoration, but the very first video is up. It's only a minute
long, so it's easy watch. It's, I stopped along the way coming, bringing it home. I stopped at some
interesting places, old abandoned gas station, an old drive-in that's abandoned, a really cool
motel. And, you know, check those out. And then we're going to start getting in. There's going
to be a feature video that's going to be longer coming up that will be the entire trip, digging
it out, dusting it off, getting it loaded and bringing it back. So I'm on YouTube. You can,
of course, just always search Brad Fancia. But if you want to look it straight up, it's at Brad
Fancia, 3281 on YouTube. That's my channel. And go there, subscribe, hit the subscribe button,
and follow the first video I put it up last night. And this morning, for me, other people
might be like, God, you only have like 200 views. But I was like kind of stoked that I,
because usually I get like 10 views or 30 views or something like that. So, but anyways,
and don't forget, if you want a free Bond Speed Streetwear sticker, we are sending them out,
but you've got to hit me up on social and DM me with your name, address, and your email.
You know, because the reason we're giving you a free sticker is so that we get your email and
can pepper you with, you know, promotion about buying Bond Speed Streetwear.
So anyways, the pretty cool, we just sent one out. I had a guy from Scotland want one.
And I said, probably going to cost me three bucks to mail him the sticker, but what the heck, you
know? Okay. What about you, Matt? What are you doing? Getting ready for the Beach Grand Prix?
No, that's coming up in April. So it's going to be, it's going to be a little ways out, which is
also, I guess, winter nationals are going to be coming up around then to NHRA. So, you know,
we've been talking to some of the drag racers on CarCast. We had Ron Capps on, Maggie Gordon,
Alexis DeGiorgio was on last week. She's with John Force Racing now. Yeah, I heard that.
You know, there's not a Force family member racing this year. They're all onto families
and other things in business. And she's the first female on the team who's not a Force member. So
you know what they do when they onboard each of those new members, don't you?
What they say, Aaron would love this joke. The Force be with you.
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I did put a new LCD screen that the memory chip and the gauge holds the
miles. So I didn't touch that. I just changed the screen. And it turned out that at 108,000 miles,
which was only 4,000 miles more than it had in 2011. So I probably put most of those miles on it,
or at least half of them, getting it here. And man, that thing is clean underneath. There's no
additional rust other than like that side step and a couple of little corrosion areas.
I mean, it's I'm blown away. I mean, we were looking at the bushings and I'm just like,
this thing is really clean. I mean, it came from Colorado. But yeah, I mean,
so to get the rear brakes, you have to pull, you have to take a cap off the center,
like a hub, you know, and it pulls the whole axle. It's connected to the cap. It's great.
You want to do a little washer. At least you have to flatten out on the corner. And you take
out a couple of those and a couple of little nuts. And then you wrangle that whole disconnected
caliper and you wrangle that whole thing off. Be careful the seals. We were able to keep the seal
and the bearings. I just repacked the bearings just to service everything. Put new rotors on,
new pads, put it all back together. And man, the thing, you know, set the brakes. You got to set
the brakes a little bit. It does not have ABS, by the way. And yeah, yeah, drives. You got 100,000
miles more before you got to do that again. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I don't think that they may have
been the original rotors. I mean, I've done rotors. I've got the original rotors on my jeep
and I'm at almost 65,000 miles and they're fine. So sometimes you can get that out of the rotors,
but the pads have definitely been replaced. And in fact, the pads were too tall. So the rotor
had carved away and left a step on there, which had some pulsing in it when you brake. So most
of that pulsing is gone. But I suspect they might have done it to the front pads too. So when I
replace those, then I should have a pretty smooth braking experience. But yeah, it's good. Yeah,
really exciting. It wasn't as hard as I thought. I had to order a 52 millimeter socket, which is huge.
And a few other little things I had to order that were specialty. But other than that, it really
wasn't that difficult. You know, packing bearings and stuff is just messy. But yeah, everything
was clean. All the fluids look good. They didn't smell bad. There were no wear spots in the bearings
or the axles. It looked good. It was fun. You mentioned that. I remember the first time I did
the brakes on my big Suburban, my Yukon, you know, the 2500 series and everything's bigger. Oh, yeah.
I had to go buy some big sockets because I'm like, I don't have anything that big.
Right? Now I do. Those brakes were heavy. Those brakes were heavy. And we had to look up a couple
torque specs because everything's a newton meters, you know. So I had to do some conversions. And
yeah, we got all the torque specs. You know, you talk about the 3D printing and like that.
Right after we spoke about that on the show last week, I ran across a place online. It was through
somebody that we follow each other and he's redoing a, it was either a CUDA or a Challenger,
but it had a radio delete, you know, back when you wanted to lighten the cars up. So you got
heater delete, radio delete. And he could not find a delete panel anywhere. And you know,
they were real specific. They kind of depressed into the radio area that was punched. Yeah,
and he was able to find this company that would make them. But what they also make
are like, you know, a lot of these older muscle cars, older Ferraris, a lot of this,
the vents, right? The little vent doors that turn and pivot. They're making all that kind of stuff
and they'll help you. And I checked them out. It's called I print 3D company. And they're on
Instagram. I print 3D and it's I print number three, then the letter D calm. But our company,
excuse me. And check them out because it looks like they'll do whatever, pretty much whatever you need.
And that's so cool. And there's enough information they can probably get dimensions. They don't have
to 3D scan it. Yeah, all that. So yeah, yeah, I'm telling them 3D printing. I was looking at some
the other day and I really because thanks to AI, you know, we talked about that before, but thanks
to AI, you know, I can I can get some help and getting files built and wireframes and stuff that
used to be so hard. Now you can use AI. Yeah, it's so cool. They're so user friendly. And I mean,
what what game changer? What what a game changer is just I mean, not only for making silly little
toys and silly things, but but a lot of stuff we can't get anymore. And it was and it's the
plastic anyway. And just, you know, you have to do everything in PLA, you know, you can you can
but a company like that probably does resin printing, which is super high resolution. And
they have to cure it. And it's really hard. It's better than factory, you know,
well, I think really good tech. I think I like Matt when he was doing his Mustang and you had
those vents done and when you did that, it was like, it was like witchcraft, you know, and
now that's like you could do them at home with a AI wireframe and a and a and a home 3D printer,
you know, it's amazing. Pretty cool. Or like, if I'm doing the Chevelle and I wanted to do some
custom emblems, you know, I could, you know, make that stuff in a 3D printer, you know, all the stuff
that used to when I did the purple Ford truck that I built, I had a jewelry company make me
custom emblems. They cost me freaking much money. I mean, I had like, I think I had 1800 bucks into
the emblems. And I'm and I'm thinking now you just do those on a 3D printer and airbrush the colors
you want and everything and you'd be done, you know, and yeah, well, they have electroplating
for plastics and 3D prints now too. That's super easy. Yeah, that electric or that plastic chrome
and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very cool. Well, we've been on forever, guys. We should
probably start wrapping it up, but the you guys got anything you got a birth you had a
birthday. Did you have a good birthday? Rain all day. I always have good birthdays. It's just
a day older. But yeah, it rained all day and we just went to Hillsburg and decided to call it quits.
Well, I don't want you to get jealous because I'm going to tell you Friday's my birthday and what
I'm going to do on my birthday. Charlotte asked me, she's getting a few people together, Mike and Sue
and stuff. And she goes, so where do you want to go on Friday? I go, I can't go anywhere on Friday.
And she goes, what do you mean? I go, did you forget what Saturday is? And she goes, the defter
Brad's birthday. And I said, I said, no, the party continues. No, I said, I said,
we're having a garage sale. There's a community garage sale where this realtor did this really
cool thing where you sign up for it. He prints maps and people come from all over and there's
a lot of people doing it in the area and they give you the signs to put in your yard. They even
delivered to my house yesterday, put it on the front door, a bag. And inside the bag was price
tags. They had magic markers in there to write stuff on and little colored dots to put on stuff.
And then the morning of the garage sale, they're delivering, it said they're going to deliver
a dozen donuts and a jug of that Starbucks coffee so that we have coffee and donuts and the people
who come to visit our Starbucks or I mean, our garage sale do. So we're going to celebrate
my birthday on Sunday instead. That's a cool service. But I am hoping if you want, if you're
in the Tustin area, come by because I'm giving shit away. I'm literally, I'm, it's 25.50 cents,
nothing over a dollar hardly. I'm literally, I want it gone so that I can clear out this
warehouse and my shop at home, guys. Hey, everybody, please go subscribe to Brad Fanshawe.
Is it Brad or Bradley Fanshawe? No, I don't even know. On YouTube. And it's called Content and
Podcasts, Bradley Fanshawe Content and Contest, Content and Podcasts. God, I can't even say it.
Because I am going to be producing a video, putting it up. And then, like I said,
every step of the way on this car, I'm going to be putting stuff up. But you should also go there
because you can see our podcast and you can go there and you can see other weird stuff that I've
put up about the outlawed Van Halen skateboard and stuff like that. So, but Matt, what do you
got going on, man? I got nothing. Come on. You do too. You do too. Just close that 100 million
dollar round of financing. I wish we did. If you guys haven't caught up on car casting a while,
we had Ron Capps on a little while ago as we head into drag racing season. Alexis DeGioria was
just on this week, so you can check that out. Lots of good stuff, fun stuff. Oh, and the Edmunds
Top Rated Awards. So, if you're shopping for a car, you want some recommendations. We did a podcast
all about their big annual award thing. That's a huge undertaking, by the way. All the amount of
work they do, the videos they produce, the content they write, it's such a big thing. It takes them
months and months to do. So, yeah, you haven't seen it? You pulled it off, man. You came out.
The podcast is there and we've been taking all of the podcast episodes and putting them up on
YouTube on the CarCast YouTube channel. Oh, good. I'm glad you're doing that too. Well,
in March now, so I think that, I don't know, I would imagine there's still some tickets available,
maybe. March and April. Yeah, pardon? No, no, it's March and April, isn't it? No, it's just in March,
it's about 10 days, and then they're back again in September. Yeah, yeah. So, I think Matt,
we're going to see you there on the 21st, and yeah, going to be super fun. And then thanks again to
Dwayne at PPG and my buddy Colby at Muffler Tech for helping me out on the Defender. And yeah,
life is good. Yeah, cool. All right, everybody. Hey, thanks for listening and watching and
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About this episode
The hosts share a casual conversation covering personal updates like a neighborhood garage sale, including funny and nostalgic moments about selling vintage items and interacting with buyers. They discuss the impact of current events on Formula 1 racing, reflect on the changing perception of 1980s cars from disliked to beloved, and touch on various automotive and lifestyle topics with a laid-back, conversational tone. The episode blends car culture with everyday life anecdotes, offering a relaxed and personable listening experience.
