We Pick The New UK Driving Laws That Would Fix Everything | Ep 76 | Drive Torque Podcast
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Car
Mini John Cooper Works
The Mini John Cooper Works is a sportier version of the regular Mini, designed for better performance and handling. The F66 is just the name for the specific version of this model that was made starting in 2021.
Car
Mini Cooper S
The Mini Cooper S is a faster and sportier version of the regular Mini Cooper. It has a stronger engine and is designed to be more fun to drive.
Car
Volkswagen Tiguan
The Volkswagen Tiguan is a smaller SUV that is meant for families and everyday driving. It's not as sporty as the Golf R.
Car
Volkswagen Golf R
The Volkswagen Golf R is a sporty version of the regular Golf car. It has a stronger engine and can drive all four wheels, making it faster and more fun to drive.
Term
DCT gearbox
A DCT gearbox is a special kind of automatic transmission that changes gears very quickly, making the car feel more responsive and sporty.
Car
Cupra León
The Cupra León is a sporty version of a regular car called the SEAT León. It's made to be faster and more fun to drive.
Car
Volkswagen Golf GTI Club Sport
The Golf GTI Club Sport is a sportier version of the regular Golf GTI, which is a compact car known for its fun driving experience and performance.
Car
Mini Cooper
The Mini Cooper is a small car that is fun to drive and has a unique look. It comes in different versions, some of which are sportier than others.
Company
Recaro
Recaro makes special car seats that are designed to be comfortable and supportive, especially for people who drive fast cars or race.
Term
sports seats
Sports seats are special car seats that help keep you snug and comfortable while driving fast or making sharp turns.
Term
front-wheel drive
Front-wheel drive means that the front wheels of the car are the ones that get the power from the engine. This helps the car handle better in certain conditions, like rain or snow.
Term
horsepower
Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful a car's engine is. More horsepower usually means the car can go faster and perform better.
Car
Volkswagen Golf GTI
The Volkswagen Golf GTI is a sportier version of the regular Golf. It's designed for better performance and handling, making it a popular choice for people who like fast cars.
Car
SEAT Leon
The SEAT Leon is a small car from Spain that is similar to the Volkswagen Golf. It's known for being fun to drive and has a stylish look.
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that has been around for a long time. It's known for being fast and having a unique shape, making it very popular among car enthusiasts.
Car
Ford Mustang
The Ford Mustang is a popular sports car that many people love for its speed and cool look. It's been around since the 1960s and is often talked about because it's a classic American car that represents fun driving.
Term
0-60 time
0-60 time is how long it takes a car to go from zero to 60 miles per hour. It's a way to measure how fast a car can speed up.
Car
Tesla Model
Car
Tesla Model 3
The Tesla Model 3 is a popular electric car that is known for being fast and having a lot of tech features. It's one of the more affordable cars from Tesla.
Term
Porsche experience
The 'Porsche experience' means how special and enjoyable it is to drive a Porsche car. They are known for being fast and fun to drive.
Concept
Le Mans
Le Mans is a famous car race that lasts for 24 hours. Cars race around a track, and it's a big test of how well they can perform over a long time.
Car
Porsche Panamera
The Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid is a fancy car that uses both gas and electricity to go fast and save fuel. It's a comfortable and stylish car that feels great to drive.
Car
Porsche Taycan
The Porsche Taycan is a high-end electric car made by Porsche. It's known for being fast and having a lot of modern technology inside.
Car
BMW M5
The BMW M5 is a fancy car that can go really fast and is designed to be both comfortable and sporty. It's a car that many people admire because it combines luxury with exciting driving experiences.
Term
air suspension
Air suspension is a system in cars that uses air instead of metal springs to support the vehicle. This helps the car ride smoothly over bumps and can be adjusted for different driving conditions.
Term
speed bumps
Speed bumps are bumps in the road that make cars slow down. They're usually found in places where people walk a lot, like near schools or in neighborhoods.
Car
Rolls-Royce Phantom
The Rolls-Royce Phantom is one of the most luxurious cars you can buy, known for its incredible comfort and custom features. People often talk about it because it represents the ultimate in luxury and elegance.
Term
2.4 tons
2.4 tons is how much the car weighs. Heavier cars can be harder to control, so they need special designs to drive well.
Concept
Nürburgring lap record
The Nürburgring is a well-known racetrack in Germany. When a car sets a lap record there, it means it completed the track faster than any other car of its kind, showing off its speed and handling.
Car
Maserati Mc
The Maserati MC12 is a very rare and fast sports car that looks amazing and is built for racing. It's talked about a lot because not many of them are made, making it special for car fans.
Term
supercar
A supercar is a very fast and expensive sports car that has special features and designs. They are usually made in smaller numbers and are known for their performance.
Term
hypercar
A hypercar is an even more advanced and faster type of car than a supercar. These cars have the latest technology and are made in very small amounts, making them very special.
Car
LaFerrari
LaFerrari is a very special and fast car made by Ferrari that uses both a gas engine and electric power to go really fast.
Car
McLaren P1
The McLaren P1 is a very fast and advanced car that uses both a regular engine and electric power to be super quick.
Brand
Pagani
Pagani is a car brand from Italy that makes very special and fast cars with unique designs.
Car
Koenigsegg Gemera
The Koenigsegg Gemera is a super-fast car that can fit four people and has room for their bags. It's special because it mixes incredible speed with everyday usability, which is pretty unique for such a powerful car.
Car
Aston Martin Valhalla
The Aston Martin Valhalla is a super-fast car that uses both gas and electricity to go really fast while being better for the environment. It's exciting because it shows how cars can be powerful and still care about the planet.
Car
Audi S5
The Audi S5 is a fancy car that looks great and is built to go fast. People like it because it combines a stylish appearance with a powerful engine for an exciting drive.
Car
Aston Martin Vanquish
The Aston Martin Vanquish is a really expensive and beautiful sports car that many people dream of owning. It's known for being super fast and luxurious, making it a favorite among car lovers.
Car
Toyota Prius
The Toyota Prius is a car that uses both gas and electricity to help save on fuel and reduce pollution. It's well-known for being very efficient and is often seen as a smart choice for people who want to be eco-friendly.
Car
Volkswagen Passat
The Volkswagen Passat is a family-friendly car that is comfortable and easy to drive. It's a good choice for people who need a reliable vehicle for everyday use.
Car
BMW M3
The BMW M3 is a sporty version of a regular BMW car that is built for speed and fun driving. Many people talk about it because it’s known for being really powerful and exciting to drive.
Car
BMW M2Cs
The BMW M2 is a small sports car that is really fun to drive and goes fast. People like it because it combines a sporty feel with a size that's easy to handle.
LIVE
Why are you like that on a motorway get just stop driving just give up with that. It's yeah
There's nothing stressful. You should be super chill on a motorway
You should just be sitting back with the elbows on the rest
Very chill because it's very easy to drive on a motorway. Yeah, and if you're sitting at 55 miles now looking scared stiff
He's an owl. He's an owl
Hey guys, welcome back to the drive talk podcast sponsored by
Michelin
How's it going guys? Yeah, good mate. Very very good. You all well?
Yeah, yeah, not too bad. It's a bit dark and wintry outside, but um
But yeah, it's not what's nice to be inside
It's weird though because you kind of we've had some really warm sunny days
Recently and then the next day will just be torrential rain and horrible
Yeah, and today's been rubbish. I haven't taken the dog out for a walk and she's well
She's fast asleep on a bed down there. So he's not really that bothered to be honest
She'll be all right. She'll live
What have we got? What have we got on the cards today for this episode? We've got quite a lot of
things to talk about I
Feel like you we should try and do this like the beginning of a talk your episode like Pete drives a hypercar
Patrick experiences the 991 cab and Joe Achilles talks about crap cars. He would love to own
But before that
Whose idea was the road rules one because I've started I started writing my list down and I just felt myself turning into an old dad basically
Well, yeah, I mean me and Joe as we spoke about in the last episode
We spent a lot of time on the road together and driving through Belgium Germany France the UK
There's yeah, lots of different things. I think we'd love to change about about the road and the rules on the road
so yeah, so we thought we come up with our
Road rules we'd like to change and I just looked at this and thought this is just a great way to get us either cancelled or
murdered by Laurie
How did you know all of my were about Laurie's
Laurie drivers and old people basically
Do we want to start off with with cars you've been driving and experiencing recently Pete
I know you just recently
Collected something that she was on the channel. I well I have a mini again a mini JCW the f66 which is the new one
As a long-term a from mini sadly, it's not mine
And it's really really good. It's a good little car. I driven the Cooper s
Last year took it to the end 24
And this is I was taking it this long to get into a JCW and and it's a brilliant little car and it looks great
And my big grumble and I put a reel about it up on about it today is
It doesn't feel that special because every other bloody mini you can buy has got John Cooper works badging all over it because they now do a slight
BMW do it with them. Don't they and how do you do it with that line?
And they've got this now like a trim level and what it means is you back in the day
You'd get in a JCW and it would have
JCW badging and different seats and the styling would be it feels special because it was you're in the like the top
Spec car be like you being in an in an M car, right?
Yeah, and now it doesn't feel like that because the John Cooper works
Sorry, the Cooper s I had last year to take to the end 24 had the JCW styling pack
And that meant it looked exactly the same basically the only difference is it's now got an exhaust out the back
Whereas the Cooper s doesn't I just
That's my first rant of the pod actually is is
manufacturers the worst I think the worst
Offender is VW with R line
Yeah, they now put an R badge on anything and it's not on R
So for me, you know a golf R is like the super powerful four-wheel drive mega sporty one not a Tiguan with an R line pack
Yep, run over
I think you always used to there was always like I don't know you look around cars you walk down the street
You drive past there was always validators, right?
Like was that a is that a and so like yeah R line you get the big R on the seats and so all of a sudden
You're like, oh, it must be a go far or it must be Joe
What was the car we saw in Germany actually other week was a perfect example of this it was a you said oh, that's a golf club sport
Yes, oh it wasn't it was just a no no
Yeah, but I think that was a slight exception because the lady there owned it had clearly put a sticker kit
That was not like a that was not a factory product. Oh, that's
Sticker kit on a yeah
Yeah, I mean that'll be like putting GTS stickers on your non-GTS
Oh
That'd be like that'd be like putting a spider sticker on yours on your non-spider just to be part of the
CSC
No, you can't have a go at Craig spider club
Oh
I told Lou about that last night. She was like there's not really a Craig spider. I was like
Yeah, I mean, it's it's obviously way bigger than the crayon crew which just has two members at the moment, but you know, yeah, I
Love it. I
Love so mini. I've got it till the end of Feb, and I'm enjoying it. It's really really good
It's a fracking little car. It's the can we predict how many can we predict how many punches you'll get between now and February?
Are we allowed to hopefully not three none three? I think that's my guess. I'll try not to have any
It and no curbing of wheels that would be good as well
But yeah, no, it's it's a really nice. It's like a
Remember the name of the blue. It's like a really nice dark blue. It's very lovely color. It's a really nice bet
It's good. It's great and it is nice. It's something
I mean, I know you're you know your mini guy and that's sort of where you started your channel really wasn't it?
Like all that's yeah, that's when I started to know you it was like Pete
You know the mini guy and and it's just nice to see it because it does it looks so natural with you that car and that brand
They're very I know you're a Porsche guy these days as well, but um, but yeah, it's good. It looks good
I look forward to seeing that in a flesh very nice. Yeah, I didn't ask cool man. It's cool
Yeah, and then so I've got to talk about another car though that I drove last week which is
so
The thing about the JCW is it's like
230 odd horsepower. It's not
Silly powerful front-wheel drive the big difference is
It's actually got no more power than the outgoing model
It's got a DCT gearbox which has made the world a difference and more torque so it drives drives better
I've just given back. It's gone back today. Actually a
Cooper Leon
bz3
All right, which talking about cool specs
I do think Cooper have a brilliant taste in color palettes and
Spec options they I do I think they've got some really nice and this one was like a I can't remember the name of it
I could it was satin finish for a start which I wouldn't necessarily go on a
I know I've got a status finish satin finish spider before anyone says anything
But I wouldn't I wouldn't buy I wouldn't buy satin paint because I think looking after satin paint compare
We're looking after gloss paint with satin PPF is a like completely different thing
But it's basically it was a golf GTI club sport underneath
It's got a two-liter 300 horsepower front-wheel drive
DCT gearbox drove
Brilliantly like really nicely gearbox fantastic not too much torque steer
Very very quick an all-in-all brilliant
However, how much do you think?
because so Joe you had a
The golf club sport only like a couple of weeks ago, right? Yes
And I'm just looking
One if you just hold the line called I'm just gonna check because I think
It was
43 you won't have you won't have made the video yet
No, no
Here we go golf club sport
So as tested it was 48 but the base price for it, I think it was 40
43
43 grand or 44 grand I think before as tested 48
Yeah, as as tested with lots of options 43 to on the road retail price. Yeah, there you go
And so to Cooper's have the Cooper has less less of an option list as less you can expect they kind of come as well
The only thing the press car I had
That had options the paint was a couple of grand and it had a pan roof
And I think that was like 900 quid or something. Okay, so 40 45 probably then for the Cooper, right?
But what why you say 45 but I mean
The golf and then a bit on for the color. They're probably roughly the same price these days are they are today
Oh, I see what you mean. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I would have said less
Okay
Because it's because
Yeah
49 oh
As tested
How is it more that I don't know
Like considerably more I mean it had so I don't know did the clock so it had these really nice Sabbel carbon backed
Sports seats, which were really nice. Yeah, and the interior was very nicely trimmed the exterior the wheels were mega
It's got a stonking set of brakes on it with like a bronze caliper
Phenomenal and that they were one of the best
I think they were the best brakes I've had in a car have been tested for a long time
What are you doing with your mic Pat?
Sorry, I'm just moving it
Robin, I'm down his hairy chest. Yeah, I know brilliant brakes, but I just
It was just yeah
I mean that is
Scary, I think the because up from my understanding
I haven't had a Cooper for a while, but the vz3 is like the top spec of that particular model
So I think you said not the carbon seats. They probably add up to a lot
It'd be interesting what a vz2 or one. I don't know if they do the one UK. Yeah, but still either way that's
That's just a lot of money. It is punchy and I think it's probably Cooper probably trying to make up for the lack of
Born sales or something
Is that what it's called? The way it drove you I'd pay 40 low 40s for it
Yeah, absolutely. It was it was a mega mega car to drive
Like really competent gearbox really good traction it handled its power really well because it's just front-wheel drive
300 horsepower through the front wheels and it handled it really nicely and it was a really nice place to be the
infotainment screens like about
Yeah, twice as big as it should be
But yeah, I just like it just it was a bit of a
Oh
That's scary money for a hot hatch the set Leon was always the affordable golf
GTI or exactly and then I mean now
To be fair, I think it looks better than a golf from the outside. It's certainly a more interesting car
Especially in the guy. I had I think it's a really a pretty car from the outside
But yeah, anyway, yeah moving on run another run over. We've got lots of rants on this episode
Podcast power by Michelin
Yeah, okay, nice
I was gonna say Pat come on you've been to the States again. How could you tell?
I just got another hat. Have you got a room with your baseball caps in it must be like full
It's a draw. Yeah, there's no I don't have enough room yet to have like a display of them
But no every time I go somewhere interesting
Fire cat from the issue
So yeah, you you hired a 9-11. Yes. Yes. I went to America
Yeah, you can tell who's getting paid to do all these trips a Joe goes to America as a 9-11. Yeah
It's actually the most affordable. I saw I rented it by churro
Which is Airbnb for cars if you haven't heard about it. It's predominantly American market. They have it in France
They do have it in the UK they have it in Canada
But churro majority of their market and and where you can get the biggest selection of cars is is America
And it's it's like airbnb
So if you were to put up your your primary car secondary car
Maybe you buy a car just for churro in the same way that people had their primary residence secondary
You know holiday home or they buy a house to put on airbnb exact same ethos
Yeah, you speak to an individual they drop the car off at the airport for you collect them collect the keys
It's a lovely experience. If anything, it's better than a traditional rental car
Experience you get a wider variety. So you're not just stuck with the, you know, like a class or similar or whatever it is
Um, yeah, you pay
I probably paid the same amount of money for this as like you would pay for a mustang like a v8 mustang on
Hurts or six or whatever. I think it was
450 pound for five days
So not huge money at all. It was a not it was a 991 from
2014 cab
Oh, yeah, pet would love that that's actually pretty that's that's less than a hundred quid a day for a fairly recent
9-11 in America like it's pretty good value, isn't it?
Yeah, and so that covers you like basic level insurance. So, you know, what you traditionally expect in the uk, you know
comprehensive insurance with a
with an excess as you'd expect but um, yeah, the experience is lovely you get to
um
Validate your license details and stuff 24 hours before so none of that queuing at a desk
You know waiting to see what you get to to get all your details kind of tight in and everything
We literally picked up the car from the international car park and was away in five minutes
Um, this particular model was a nice like browny
bronzy color
um had like
Is it what would you call it like biscuit and brown leather interior as well?
Um, but yeah, it was oh no, sorry. It was gray on the outside. It was like a gray
Like a gray color and the inside was yeah, it was like a bronzy brown. How do you confuse brown and gray?
I was thinking of the interior when I said the exterior. So
But it was a lovely color metallic color and yeah, the car was great. Um
roof down I I can now see the appeal p. I maybe I would have
Joked about it
Yeah, you see you now having driven one
Yeah, we did 800 miles or something in it across those five days on lovely
Scenic roads down the coast in in a highway one and that kind of area and it's cool
And the wind break as well the windshield. What do you call it? Like the wind reflector the wind reflector?
It's really good. Um, yeah, I can have the roof down at kind of any speeds really and it's
It was a lovely experience big enough front boot, you know the only thing I will say about not so this is
991 with those weird
I don't know what you call them do the rockers on the steering wheel for the tip tonic box
Yeah, that I never got used to that because I would instinctively be like, oh, I'll go up a gearism coming onto the motorway or
That's best to use the shifter rather than the paddles. Yeah the paddles. They were the they were the wrong way round
Because you can do both controls on either side and so that I never learned that
Yeah, I ended up just knocking over into sport on the stick and then back and forth on that where I needed to
It had terrible tires on it. Oh look Peggy
Peggy begs is this is this sorry
Yeah, unfortunately, it had proper ditch finders on it and I I mean that in the most polite way
They were I couldn't even tell you the name brand because I don't know what they are
Um, so that was really downside to this this rental car experience. But yeah, the car was
The car wasn't fast like I had to google at 0 to 60s four and a half seconds
Which is going to sound absurd that I'm like, oh, it's not that fast
But like in today's modern age where like any electric car will
sensibly do five seconds to 60 or four and a half has a bit more
Of that push in that torque as well
But once you are up there once you are up the revs, I don't know if it has an exhaust
It might have a sports exhaust or something, but I'm sure it had an exhaust. Yeah
extra cars tend to
But it sounded lovely. It was a nice driving experience
What it won't have had it won't have had any opf or any filters or anything
That definitely helped because you're in the States, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, none of that stuff. So no mega experience
Just yeah fun once you're at speeds
Um, and you know the the weight of the balance of the car is all lovely
But getting there was like, oh my god. Yeah, we've been spoiled by
Either stuff that you guys have had that I've been able to drive or even just driving around like a tesla model 3 or something
It feels so much faster to
Yeah, kind of the the speed limits when you're coming off a set of lights or something
But nothing beats that that Porsche experience though as a driving experience overall
It was in a wasn't it that one
Yeah, it wasn't yeah, not the the point one. So yeah, it probably would feel quite sluggish and uh
Compared to modern stuff
Like among a base Carrera these days is
I think feels really fast. Yeah, we took that one to the
Le Mans, Joe, didn't we or we took it? Yeah, took it to the one that was it the yellow one and that yeah
That's right. Same color as the ped sofa. Wait, is that a new sofa ped?
No, it's been there. You slept on it, mate. I know but was it always was it always yellow?
It had a cover on it, but
Just a blanket, but it's always been yellow
Even when you slept on it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, when I'm sleepy, I'm not looking at the color of things. I'm just like sleeping
Yeah, um, nice
Oh, that's that. Well, what we're talking about interesting cars. I recently had um
a
a Porsche
Panamera
Turbo s e hybrid
Now they don't make them in the sport tourism anymore as we know they stopped with the panamera so you can only get it in like the
Saloon shape or whatever what what drove that decision?
What I mean the panamera in the sport tourism is a mega the coolest thing. Yeah
I know although
Unlike the Taycan
Which and I say in my video that will come out in the next
18 months
That unlike the Taycan where I think you need the sport tourism over practicalities because the normal Taycans boots tiny
And the rear cabin and the normal Taycan stuff the panamera actually the boot because it's like a large hatchback
When the rear boots open and I'd say not that Peggy can talk but
If she could and she does when I'm around
Um, she that's her favorite car to date in terms of a space for a dog
Because it was fantastic because she's up there in the boot at the back
But it's still open to the cabin but only a little bit so she's got a privacy loads of space
But really practical, but anyway, that doesn't work on the back window like that as you do a
Slow down dad
Well, yeah, I think I timed
So on my race box I timed 2.57 to 60
And but that wasn't the most impressive thing about that car and I guess you
On paper it looks like a direct competitor to like the m5 because it's they're both
Super saloons german super saloons. They both produce over 700 horsepower
Um, but the as I've already seen on the car about drag race this this panamera absolutely smokes the bmw
m5 and and you do realize that straight away
And it does everything better, but it is
Like 70 grand more than the m5 so you're going to expect that but but the most impressive thing about it and harry metcalf talks about it on this video
Is the magic suspension it has it has an air suspension, but it has so much stuff going on electronically
hydraulically
Underneath you that the ride quality. I went in to see my parents. It was mom's birthday recently and we
Went into london
We went up to spaniards where there's a pub that I've been going to since I was a kid
And um, and we went over a number of speed bumps getting up there as you do in central london
And honestly you could just hit every single speed bump at 20 or 30 miles an hour depending on the speed limit
You could just charge into it and although you knew you're going over something
It's got all these cameras that
Basically predicts or sees what's about to hit the suspension and it adjusts accordingly
So if you hit a speed bump
It just it just absorbs it and there's no like you're gone. You're over at the car settled straight away
And unlike the m5 where you cut over something like that
You feel you feel everything and then it just seems to take five seconds to settle down again
And you know, honestly the suspension on that
What a car and I think I can't remember if I say that my conclusion, but
If if you had to have like one car if you'd won the lottery and it was like a single car to do everything in
I can't imagine anything else beating it and sure it's two on the ground
There's option that thing, but it's just it was just an incredible feat of engineering from Porsche
They probably sell 10 a year, but what a what a machine. What's a
Will that suspension go to kn or any of the
Sounds like what Rolls Royce used to do with the cullinan and the phantom. That's that that's where that the first time I saw that
Yeah, I think it's a similar
Um, it's exactly like the old yeah the old
What yeah Rolls Royce did and and you could get on the seventh series
But it's it but it to me it just felt like it was it was you know
Way more advanced version of that and it really predicted everything so well even down to like small little potholes
it seemed to
Do stuff for which is just like how how have you managed to work out in a split second?
What that little pothole it's going to do to the suspension and then adjust it accordingly
It's and and control because it's still heavy 2.4 tons control that massive amount of weight and size
um
But yeah, I think the kn you can get it on some of the kns
And and again, I think the average Porsche customer they're spending that kind of money
They'll probably end up just buying a Porsche kn turbo e hybrid gt package
Um, because that's what most people go in right? They want the suv, but what a piece of kit
Um, very very impressive and we saw at the Porsche museum last Pat and I went
Pocked in there last week and they had one in the same spec Madeira gold metallic
Um, which had set the Nurburgring lap record for a large luxury saloon. I think it was
724 I want to say
Um full lap which is pretty fast for something that weighs 2.4 tons
But yeah, it's very impressive to see a Panamera though because I I thought that that was a dead platform. I'd I'd
Yeah
I think to be fair, but I imagine Porsche thought so too when they brought out the Taycan
I imagine if the Taycan had been hugely successful and electric had been adopted by everybody
They probably would have just brought out an extended Taycan equivalent platform that would have replaced maybe
Panamera unfortunately, yeah, that hasn't happened for them. And so Panera continues to live another day
Yeah, yeah, yeah
very nice
but anyway, um
Well, I think this ped you you I thought that was a pretty special car. Are you driven something that's
Very very special at least this is like a ped dream car. Is there like
It's now the most expensive car I've driven on the road on the channel
Wow, because before that it was a singer like just over a million
Uh, I drove last week. I drove a kerning's egg a gear at n
about
Just shy three million quids
1060 horsepower
Jesus wow
Uh from uh, yeah, I just
I'm real so there's it's
I kind of the way I set the film up. I haven't put the film up yet
But it's I kind of go this this there's a norm. There's classic cars. There's sports cars
There's super cars
And then there's hyper cars and yeah, you know, we've we've been very lucky the three of us to
drive lots of sports cars
And I'm going to put like 9 11 in that that's for me 9 11 is a sports car really. It's a very fast sports car
Um, but then if you step up into something like a Ferrari or a McLaren or Lamborghini
Or a maserati mc 20. Um, like we saw in the last episode
They're super cars and the difference between a sports car and a super car is a lot
The difference between a super car and a hyper car
is
Un unimaginable
But just do you do what I've been I'm intrigued by your definition of a hyper car
This has been brought up on a few podcasts me and joseph go about it. It's an interesting topic
So for you, is it the the power number?
Is it how it makes you feel the value?
Like how special it looks or or how nervous you are to drive it like what's your definition of us?
It's really hard actually because there's got to be a power element to it. But um,
So I I look at a Koenigsegg and I think hyper car if I looked at a Ferrari sf 90
I would think super car. Yeah, actually, they're very similar
Performance and power and so I don't know for me the hyper cars. There's like the the sort of holy trinity type hyper car
You have a la ferrari's and p ones and all that kind of stuff. Then there are the
the the real kind of, um
Uh, what's the boutique?
manufacturers of like Bugatti Pagani
Koenigsegg
Those types of guys instantly drop into hyper car. But I think it's a really fuzzy line a bit like the line between super car and
Sports car. I said that 9 11 was a sports car
Lots of people go. Well, no 9 11 turbos a hyper a super car. Well
A turbo probably is is the gt3 a super car or is that a fast sports? I don't know
So I don't know. I think it's it's shits and giggles and chacked down the cup of your mates basically
Yeah, but it's how you in terms
How you interpret it really isn't it? I guess. Yeah, but yeah, I
The 0 to 60 time was about the same as that panamery you've just been talking about. Yes
Super car or a hyper car or a sports car
About about two and a half seconds to 60, but it's got a top speed of 272 miles an hour
That's quite a lot so it's quite fast then and and what was really funny
so
I'm the the lovely owner tommy who
It was his singer that I drove so he runs super patura kerning's egg
The big kerning's egg dealer in the uk, right and he's had kerning's eggs been selling them for 20 years. He's got four
um, and you know, he's he's he's um, he knows them really well
so I'm driving along because he drove it first um alarmingly
Uh, and I'm driving along trying not to think about the fact that I'm in like a three million pound car
And I just said oh the the bit I'm interested in not that we can demonstrate it on the road is
What are they like at the edge when when you get to the edge of their envelope?
Do they do they are they friendly?
Do they let you know they're breaking away?
Do they kind of talked to you and and stuff and he went oh he said yeah, he said he said this one it
The nose goes a bit light between 180 to 190 because it's not got so much aero
But if you push on through that it's fine
That's really good to know
For 80 miles an hour that you get to do once you've pushed past 190
It's okay at that point. Oh, that's good. Yeah, if you if you do like a drag race with them
He said the difference is
So if you're racing a supercar even a really fast one
So like a hundred miles an hour
150 miles an hour. There's there's not a great deal in it
But the difference between a hypercar and a supercar
I think is even a supercar when you get to like 150 miles an hour
It starts to kind of get to the edge of what it can do and a hypercar
Still has some left
Yeah, and you'll get to it and the hypercar 150 miles now the hypercar will just keep going and the supercar won't and that that's the difference
I think
And we talked a bit about the whole yang wang u9 thing and the tires thing because
Koenigsegg obviously they were famous for their zero to 400 to zero tests. They've done the the top speed tests
and
It was interesting talking about that and I think the the big limiting factor and the reason why
Koenigsegg haven't done anything similar to that and whether they'll even come back with that the yang wang thing is tires
It comes back to what we said the other week in a in a thing. It's just the
the
the
ability for a road tire to operate at
north of
280 miles an hour
Is is a real challenge. So
But it was just an immense experience and and did you learn any more about maybe how you would spec one or like
What's that process like they're all unique right Koenigseggs. It's not like there's a standard Koenigsegg
Like how does that work? So I see even cooler than that. So this one was it was a 15 year old car
Right, it was made in 2011
Jesus, okay
It was a Koenigsegg a gear up in 2011 in 2017
The then owner went back to Koenigsegg and had some work done on it
To bet it basically took a whole bunch of stuff off the one-to-one
um
The the car that was famously uh thousand kilos and a thousand horsepower or or equivalent
So we have lots of one-to-one bits on it and when you do that
Koenigseggs say well, that's a unique car
You can give it a name and the n in Koenigsegg a gear of n is the owner at the times initial
So you basically unique to him so
So, you know, you basically when you go into buy a car like that
You could pretty much, you know
Ask for anything it depends how deep you all it is
Ask the car we're looking for
I was talking about the Jamira because obviously that's like a hypercar with four seats
And that's going to be that's going to be proper mental lovers
That's the one Joe just tested wasn't it made by Porsche or was that a different one?
Yeah
What was the driving position because that's the thing with a lot of these supercar and hypercars
But I mean I have I must admit I'm not
I can appreciate them you're way more of a you like your
hypercars and supercars
I I did they don't really excite me because I think I know for a fact in my lifetime
I'm never going to be able to afford one, but it's probably not even that it's just that
I think I yeah, there's a a sports car for me a good sports car is is is everything you
I'm ever going to want or need in the car, but at the same time
Looking at some you know looking at you drive that makes me happy because it's like
Yeah, well and and talking to you about it afterwards because it's like I do want to know what it's like
Because it's a ridiculous. I know I know I'll never be able to afford one
Um, I've got my perfect car parked downstairs and that you know, and I'm quite happy with that
um
The I like the mini
Yeah, exactly. Yeah
Because that's mine. I actually own that the bank owns the um the spider. Yeah, but I I love I love supercars and
But the more I drive them the more I realize that I probably would never want to own one
Yeah, because they're just the the the money involved that you need to be able to buy even like a
150,000 pound Ferrari or McLaren that when you look at how much it costs you we either buy it outright
So you need 150 grand in the bank or yeah
You're paying a lot of money on installments and all that kind of sting depreciation and all those things
I'm not into that at all. But driving them is really cool
Go back to your first question. The driving position was was really cool. I'm a tall guy. I had loads of room
But what was really cool about that car is the canopy
The glass on it is I just felt like I was sat in an LNP one car because you've got this
canopy in front of you and the
the all the interior was all this diamond stitched leather and
This one the the windscreen marker right in the middle of the windscreen
kind of doing that and it was just
cool, basically
So yeah, it was it was cool and and I said it was a 15 year old car and it just drove beautifully
Uh, and I think it was saying that when that car was sold new
I think it was something like it's five or six hundred thousand pounds
Wow
Yeah, it's now three million
Oh my goodness. Yeah
Wow
And there's only there's there's around 300 kerning's eggs in the world. That's that's all the cars they've made
Wow
So, yeah, no, and it was relatively
Compared with what kerning's egg do with things like fancy gearboxes and no valves in the engine and stuff
It was a fairly normal configuration car and a big five litre v8 in the back
It had, you know, uh, uh, a flappy paddle single clutch gearbox. It was wicked
Yeah, but yeah, very handy and on the road just terrifying. You can't you can't I mean it is so fast
Yeah
Uh final question because me and joe drove a 2011 car probably about the same kind of ilk style
You know the same kind of what kind of mpg were you doing?
We were doing some mpg. Yes. There was an mpg at least an mpg. Yeah, an mpg
Yeah, so it doesn't it doesn't ever read out on the dash like alcar
I don't know but
It's told me pretty much dailies it. He's he's done 20,000 miles on it
So, you know, it's it's a car that's comfortable. It's got luggage space
It's not I mean that gemera has got an enough room for four four adults and four flight cases for those adults
And wow, you know, it makes you look like a valkyrie. You think well, what was going on with valkyrie?
Did they not think about luggage as well? You know like a
overnight, um, uh
Tiny little bag to put a toothbrush in but yeah, it was it was a really cool experience really cool. So
Awesome. Oh, we're talking about before we get into the car challenge because I'm conscious of the time
Yeah, you were the one who said let's make it sure. I know the last episode went on quite a bit
but you just mentioned valkyrie when pat and I were at the
at Calle Euro tunnel a couple of weeks ago. We
spotted
a Valhalla
Yeah
Yeah, and it was a prototype vehicle. I didn't realize that
People already seen the car and whatever. I got really excited because I was like, oh my god
It's the first one ever because it had prototyping everywhere. But I have to say
Um, the valkyrie although I can appreciate what it does
It kind of does nothing for me because it's just made for really short rich men and women
like little
midget like tiny people
You want I don't think that no like really small people like the cockpit on the it's just
Yeah, and then in my head
It's like you've kind of cheated a little bit there because you you've made something that you know, you've made like it's a cake
It's just too small. Whereas the Valhalla. Well, we didn't get sitting or anything
But just looking at the outside. It's actually like a normal size supercar
But it looks really I must admit it looks
Absolutely stunning like the the the the finish on it the the the sizing the ratios of everything
Um, yeah, that looks like a proper bit of kit that thing
And I I thought it wasn't going to be before seeing one. I thought I was just going to be another Aston
It doesn't sell. Um, yeah
lined up against the rest of the Aston's
But yeah, it looks cool. It is it is cool. And I I know someone who's
Ordered one and I'm hoping to do some filming with it. Um
Is it checker later?
No, it's not actually, you know
And a really good bait of mine is he heads up Aston Martin Q. So he is
Oh, yeah
Responsible for specking them all but they are when you see one in the in the metal they are or carbon. They are mega things
Yeah, nice. And this one's running. What tires finally?
What tires was it on?
It was on a road trip around europe
Yeah, it was on miscellan pilot sport s5 tires, which i'm guessing
Yeah, uh, yeah, because I know the s5 was only homologated for I don't know. I'm making this up, but let's say 20
special cars including my m5
Um, but I know Aston
Have obviously done a couple because I think it's on the
It's on another vantage and vanquish
Vantage vanquish and db12 as well. I think maybe yeah
AML addition Thomas. Yeah, so it was good to see them because initially I saw the sidewalls like oh my god, it's on cups and we're in
basically, you know
We remember it has
it has um
OEM cup two and cup two ours. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, but it was nice to see it because it was a damp evening
It was cold and I thought oh, I wouldn't fancy being on cups
But yeah, it was on s5. But anyway, well, let's let's crack. Let's get into this
Road rules crap. Oh road rules not crap cars. What we do first crap cars or road rules. What's first?
Oh, yeah, okay road rules first road rules first. I've got shall I start?
I've got one and I made this one up again
Me and Joe did this lovely long week long road trip spent a lot of time sitting on the motorway judging other people's driving
Let's say this so this is this is road rules or or regulations that you would change if you can
Yes, these are ones I we would like to introduce
If we could if we if we could decide the rules of the road
So I'll go with my my main one that kind of start this all off and why we want to have it as a topic
Was that lorry should not be able to overtake other lorries
during peak
hours
So when you're on the road and it's you know, nine in the morning
It's five or six a night you're coming home from work
Particularly where we were going through obviously doing long motorway runs in and in and out of
They're through Germany into Belgium and stuff
But the amount of times the three lane motorway would effectively become a one lane motorway
Because the truck doing 55 miles an hour has decided to overtake another truck doing 54 miles an hour
And so like that then pulls out you then got these two trucks sitting next to each other and so all of the
You know people don't use lane discipline anyway
So everybody then funnels out into the outside lane and now you've got a one lane motorway
And of course those cars then slow down because someone gets nervous about the fact that you know
They're going past a lorry and isn't that a bit daunting and now the whole motorways that stand still traffic because 30 miles up the road
Someone's had to overtake a lorry
They've gone past it 50 miles an hour whilst that's doing 55 plus the other ones doing 54
That does my head in particularly when you're in europe and there's you know, lots of lots of lorries coming along the uk
It's pretty bad as well
But when you're on those super long stretches, you know driving back from Germany
You really do notice it a lot that these lorries should not be overtaking each other at peak times
They can do it overnight do it at two in the morning
But don't do it at 6 p.m. Or 9 a.m. Pat mate you've gone there and all I'm going to say is
Be ready for the hate because I went there
I I I had a similar thing as my number one
I only mine all I put is lorries shouldn't be able to overtake each other on uphill stretches of dual carriageway or motorway
And actually in the eighth well, I think we've talked about this on the pop
34 they did a trial of it a while ago now
I think that's a very good one. I know what I know the pushback you're going to get from people is that
lorry drivers are in a critical infrastructure. They're moving things around
Most and you're going to get there two minutes later. It doesn't matter
I know
I didn't realize until my mate paul became a truck driver that they're now the biggest metric they all have
is they've got these
um
Like a data recorder in the cabs of modern-day lorries that record
efficiency and fuel efficiency
drivers will be
Literally targeted on fuel efficiency. That's why the speed limit was bought in in the first place
Um, so that's why they don't like slowing down to let because that's the other one is if if they're doing
They're both the 55 mile an hour thing, right? Why doesn't the truck in laid one just lift off the throttle?
Just for a couple of seconds to let the other truck in it's not hard, but it's to do with fuel
Yeah, right
Yeah
Just get the system out of joes m5 where it gives you the torque fill with the electric
And then they don't have to worry about efficiency the the the gearbox and staying seventh eighth tenth fifteenth gear
There's a little bit of electricity just to talk to you have no idea that you have no idea the the
Pandora's box you've just opened I look forward for this clip going on facebook
I'll deactivate my facebook account. Yeah, exactly. Yeah
uh, joe
well, I I
I'm going to make a lot of truck drivers happy with this one
because
um
I think
That although there's a stupid 70 mile an hour top speed in the uk for motorways
Which is so prehistoric is unbelievable especially when you spend a lot of time in france
Which is what 85 odd miles an hour obviously germany
um, but I think there should also be
in a car
or
similar there should be a minimum
Speed a minimum speed limit
so you should have
You should you should but you should have to do 65 miles an hour
minimum gps
Um, unless you're in a volkswagen besat 211 going for a mileage challenge
But what what really upsets me more than
Anything else is when I see a truck or a coach or a bus
having to
Pull out to then congest the rest of the motorway to get around
Someone who is sitting in their Toyota Prius
doing
55 miles an hour
For no apparent reason whatsoever
If you're not going to sit at 70 miles an hour and you're incapable of doing that
Then get off the motorway or just don't drive just give up driving
Because it's not hard
It's really not difficult and if you don't have the brain capacity to do that
Then just hand your driving license in
because
You can't drive
Because there's nothing easier than sitting at 70 miles an hour on a motorway
And this goes on to another one that you know, you see people on motorways
They look scared stiff
And they've got their hands usually at the top of the wheel and they look and you're like
Why are you like that on a motorway get just stop driving just give up with that
It's there's nothing stressful
You should be super chill on a motorway
You should just be sitting back with the elbows on the rest
Very chill because it's very easy to drive on a motorway. Yeah, and if you're sitting at 55 miles now looking scared stiff
Get off the motorway
Also get some points for going so slow because there's no reason for it. That's it. I think a way
Oh, I was going to say quickly a way to enforce this as well
Is that it should be mandatory in your driving test
And I know why you don't and we can go into that
Yeah, you should have to learn how to drive on a motorway as part of your driving test
Because the reason why someone's scared stiff doing 55 is because nobody ever taught them how to drive on the motorway
And then they went out onto a motorway and they saw big lorries got scared sat in the middle and did 55 miles an hour
Because they've never done so before in their life now spend their lives getting overtaken by big lorries because they
It's like a vicious circle. So if you go a bit faster, they they don't overtake you. That's what it's really easy
So so the night night driving a motorway. That's point three on my list
Okay, motor motorway speed limit increased to 85 miles an hour like yes
That's that's number two on my list and then number eight on my list is three points for not driving fast enough on the motorway
Well, there you go done
It's just like and I mean, I know we've done the other one is also if lane one is empty get in lane one
Oh, no, you should get you should get three points per lane. You're over
Yeah, that should be the rule. So if the police stop you and you're in lane four of a four lane motorway
And there's no one in lane three
Two or one you should immediately lose your license
And then if you're in lane three, it's nine points and if you're really, you know, or however, no
It'd be it would be no points for lane one. So it'd be three
Six nine yet
You shouldn't nearly be losing your license if you're in lane four of a four lane motorway
And there's no one in lanes three two or one
But can you tell me
Sorry, no, god. No, no
No, can you tell me that why in a in a in the world that we live in today?
Where we know that police love to make revenue from speeding and all the rest of it and they they park in
You know on gantries of really safe motorways and do you for doing 75 as opposed to in a school zone where they should be focusing on
Why in a world like this? Why are they not?
Getting why why are fines not given to these middle lane huggers?
And you could you could even ramp it up because there's so many undercover cop cars
Especially on motorways you see them going flying past all the time with their blue lights
Why like there should be if you go past and I don't know if you're allowed to flash
Cars, but let's just say if you do I'm not admitting that I do
But if you're in the middle lane and there's someone just sitting there you give them a quick flash
They move over you pass them then you pull into the lane one and then they start flashing you
How in that instance it should be like you get
fine and three points for being in the middle lane and then and then and then and then but the police
Yeah, then their police do that move and then if you get flashed and you're the cop car
Did you get another three points?
And can you imagine it's like there's a grand and you've just got six points
I mean that is but and then they flash you and then what do they do immediately pull back out and it's like
You know the you know that you had to move over left because you shouldn't be there
So you know that but that's obviously upset you so you feel the need to flash me and then pull straight back out again
Into the middle of nowhere. What is wrong with you? I mean or Joe as we saw a lot of the um
We saw a lot of the like so let's say we're in like so we're in a 2011 car recently
So it's a slower car not the fastest thing in the world
So we would like pull out maintain a sensible motorway speed wherever we were in the world
And then the car on the inside the one that we've just pulled out past would then speed up
So then we're on a cruise, right? So we're doing like an indicator whatever it is in whichever country
So we're just doing that speed it is not changed until we've anticipated the car the car slower than us
We've anticipated pulling around it indicate out they then speed up to the same speed if not a little bit more
So then we have to come back
We have to come back in because that's the correct thing to do as we've all established here that you shouldn't sit in the outside lane
And then and then they slow down again
Which means because we haven't this this car has an adaptive cruise which is a better example
Which means then we have to then go out again and you can be sitting there for 20 minutes
Kind of go back and forth back and forth because I don't know what are people getting like
Yeah, do they ever make an ego problem with being overtaken on the motorway like what what is it?
I just uh ourselves
Uh, okay, so we're uh, we're on the same page of that one. I've got one here tailgating anyone who does tailgating should be
Shot yeah, no, but again unless you're in a Passat and you're doing a speed challenge
Then yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. Um, so, uh, um
Which one which so, uh, there's a speeding one
um
Uh, and I'll leave that one to laska. That's going to get me cancelled. Um, I think
They will definitely how many have you got? Oh quite a few. Um
I've got one here and uh, it's obviously to do with my uh, links to the institute of advanced motorists
All right
I think that everybody should have to have a retest every 10 years
To allow themselves to carry on driving whether that's a physical actual driving test or some kind of assessment rules change
Um signage changes and and you know people degrade in their mental capacity and at the moment
You can pass your driving test as 17 years of age in the uk and not have to do anything
Until you're 70 all you have to do at 70 is write off to get your license and they send you another one until 75
And only at 75 do you have to have I think an eye test
That doesn't stack up to me. No, so so some kind of
Check to make sure you're okay. And I think it's a bit like so I've got you know
With a race license you have to at certain milestone birthdays
You have to have a medical to carry on having your your race license
And you know you moan because it's like 100 quid or whatever to have a medical
But that's the privilege of having a race license and it should be exactly the same for the road
And if you can't afford it then tough
Yeah, yeah, if you can't if it's yeah, it should be I think something that was
Maybe didn't put you in a physical car. Keep the cost down. It's some sort of test
Yeah, anybody can do it. You know, it shouldn't be it's almost like it's so easy
On paper so easy that you should just easily pass it, right? It takes you half an hour or something
But I guarantee you the amount of people that wouldn't pass it, you know, you're in lane three of a motorway lane one and two are empty
What do you do if they stay stay in the outside late immediately ban them, right?
And uh, so yeah, so that's that's because that just does does my head in and especially when you hit 70
Sorry old people, but you should be there should be more checks
I live in an area where there's lots of old people and the amount of them you see driving around that should not be driving
Yeah, because they're either the ones joes moaning about they're not going fast enough on the motorway or they're just a bloody liability
So yeah, that should be a reaction test a simple reaction test. That's what they know from the age of 50
I think every five or 10 years you should get a reaction test
Yeah, um, and then my last one do you have near you?
Do you have the um, the like the locals that put high-vis jackets on and stand at the side of the road with like a
speed gun
No, I want to have speed guns. They're normally just nicking things where I live
No, they have speed guns
They do that over they do that near near me, right? And if they catch you
Um, you get a letter from the police. They've got no rights because they're not police people
But you you you'll get a letter saying you were spotted speeding slow down if it happens again
Naughty boy, you'll you know, they'll take it next step further
So my my simple one is anybody who does that and puts the high-vis jacket on
Okay, should be banned from driving because they're just sad. They need to get alive
Because and especially if any of them have got points on their license
Okay, we say probably all license bet they have and you're there going
Pointing a hairdryer at someone and they always near us on the way between here and to tell they hide behind bushes and stuff
And jump out and they're always there with their kitboards. They're like hunting packs
There's normally like three or four of them there one of them
One of them's been trained and is promoted to have a speed gun
The other one's got a clipboard and the third one's sad because he's not got any job at all
They just look out for cars doing that to them
They should be banned for life
Anyway, I mean that in my head that's just close to impersonating as a police officer is
As you can get really right like you've got high veers. You've got the gun. I mean
I just drive past the winder window down now and get a life
Anyway
As they just got a hope they don't bump into brad and his 1000 horsepower M3 touring because that could all end in tears
Yeah, it could do. Yeah, watch the last episode to get views on that one
That's my smallest
No, I've got I've got one more a joe. I don't know if you've got any
I'll go more
No, no, come on. Hurry up
No, no, I think I think we should end this here. I think I think maybe crap cars should come in another episode
I think I think it deserves its own space and time because I think we'll have some interesting opinions on that
So look forward to that in the next one. Oh, so I can do some more research
You probably misunderstood this one. Um
Turning right on red in america
Turning right on red in america is a is a good idea now
The the people that that actually do turn right on red sometimes are it's a bit questionable how they do it
But I like the premise and I think the same thing could be implemented into the uk it would have to be
Left on red rather than right on red to be on the correct side of the road
But I like the idea of filtering of filtering filtering, you know, again
You can't just do it because it's red. You can't just drive through it and have a crash
It's still your fault
But it's like if you come to any junction in the uk where it's a side road onto a main road
Obviously you check both ways you pull out
In america if you've got a big they have lots of intersections
You can turn right on a red light as long as it's safe to do
So I think it's a very good rule. It allows for flow of traffic is better. You're not stuck for no reason
I really like it
They have they have lots of intersections because they're not clever enough to understand how a roundabout works basically
That's his true
It is spooky because I was literally sat at a traffic lights last week
Wanting to turn left sitting there forever
Just going
Why can't I turn left? There's no reason you look at the traffic where it's coming from. It's like there's absolutely
You know reason at the moment why I can't turn left and sometimes
Some traffic lights do have an independent light for a left turn or a right turn to begin the junction
And even some big roundabouts now have individual slip roads for going off
What would be the first exit onto another major road or something so you can maintain a
30 40 mile an hour speed into another 50 or 60 or something and that's lovely
But yeah, I think I think right on red and the uk equivalent which is we
Left on red. I think would be sensible now if we brought that in there would be
Numerous crashes and I'm sure it wouldn't actually work out because people can't even drive straight on the motorway as we've just established
But I think it's a nice idea
Yeah, talking about I I've got one more. I just thought of and it's not a uk thing actually
It's a french thing and I love driving in france. I love
Most of the french roads. I think they're toll route system although it's expensive. It's so reliable
You can get places in france if you need to which is great
And the road, you know, some of the roads that I've found over the recent years is just brilliant because they actually seem to maintain their roads
Also, they seem to if they're repairing a road, they repair it. They repair it overnight
They don't spend seven they don't spend seven years pretending to repair something like they'd go over here
But but they have this old rule that still
is
Is still in place in certain areas
Not necessarily like I don't know just around paris or or just in the south of france
In certain areas in france, and it's I think it's it's called priority or
However, you would pronounce that in french, but it's spelt similar priority at the world
Yeah, so so it's basically giving way to the right. Okay
Uh, and you've got to be very careful when you come off the main toll routes in france
Um, because a lot of the older villages and towns still have this priority to the right
And what that means is if you're on a main road and you're cruising along the main road
And there's a tiny little side street could even look like a footpath. It's an old gravel track
That road could quite possibly have the right of way
And oh wow
You really got to be careful for that when you're on a motorbike but on any vehicle and there's a there's a certain
It's worth looking up. There's a certain sign
It's like a cross sign that you see all over france and you're like
Wonder what that means and that means that in this particular road or area
Priority to the right is still the law
But to make things really difficult and complicated is it's not the rule everywhere
It's only 10 of france. So and if you miss that sign
You know, there's yeah, so I mean that that's just like come on like we're in 2026 basically like
I get that it was a rule back in the day
But you need to now change it so that the whole country
Doesn't have that anymore because in my head having a rule on one road but not on the other road is like that is just a
Recipe for there must be some terrible accidents
As a result of that because tractors and stuff just come out of like or whatever just come flying out. They don't even look like
Especially older people like I've seen it a couple of times on my bike and I'm like once or twice
It happens to me. I was like, oh shit and I'm about to like go mad at the person
And I'm like, wait a second. Oh shit. We're in one of those
Priority at the what or whatever. Anyway, but that's yeah, that's my little rant about so Joe's Joe's got a role rule
He'd like to have removed. I've got a file one to really to really fill this off in 30 seconds
What we need is a is a toll route road
Through belgium where no belgium drivers are allowed to drive on it until we can say we can safely get to Germany
Or wherever else we'd like to go through belgium. Maybe it's I guess what's Switzerland in the south
But however it is like I just want a road where we're safe from belgium drivers where we can drive through
They're not that's the rule. They're not allowed to be on it any number plate other than belgium one
And we can just safely go through your country about having to stop there be no service stations or anything
You just got to go through it's like death valley or something like just one road
We get out the other side as quickly as possible
Sign me up. How could how can a country that is literally next door to france has a language that's near identical
They love their baguettes and their cross-ons
And and and yet you go through france on a toll route and you and it's perfect
You go through belgium and it's complete opposite. It's worse than anywhere in the world
In terms of traffic and in terms of their ability
it's
I mean, are you even allowed to say that? I don't know but they're just
You know, what's the worst? I've lived in I lived in india when our 2007
I've spent a lot of time in places like italy where
Everything is kind of predictable that the traffic is mad that you know, but it just all works for whatever reason
It's it's not organized chaos. It's just chaos, but it kind of works
Whereas when you're in belgium, you don't really know what's going on. You can't predict what anyone is going to do
like
It's like it's like
You know, we drive we drive in 2d, but in belgium. It feels like you're in 4d and there's cars falling out the sky like
It's like
They are so bad
And I would like to apologize to any belgium listeners because I know I brought up a story when bat and I were in belgium the other week
And normally I have my belgium followers going. Thanks. They are just the worst because I know it's not all of them
It's only 99.9 percent of them
But
But I actually had this this guy and he messaged me said, oh, thanks a lot. I'm a long time subscriber of yours
I've just got an m2cs on order and I'm not sure about what you said about belgium drivers
I was like mate seriously like how can you not be aware of your country and your drivers being so bad?
Anyway, anyway, we should end it there. That's probably cancelled us
If it wasn't the lorry drivers or what Pete said about the wambles in the in the jacket, it's now the belgians. Okay, so
So if you are a lorry driver or belgium or over the age of 70 make sure you subscribe
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Yeah, well, Joe doesn't
Right guys, thanks for watching as I said that I was being serious about the subscribe thing
Yeah, we'll see on the next episode
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About this episode
A lively discussion unfolds as the hosts propose new UK driving laws aimed at improving road safety and efficiency. They tackle issues like lorry overtaking on motorways, the need for minimum speed limits, and the frustrations of middle lane hoggers. The conversation also touches on the experience of driving various cars, including a Mini JCW and a Porsche Panamera, while sharing humorous anecdotes about driving behaviors. The episode blends rants and insights, making for an entertaining exploration of the rules of the road.
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