“Bi-turbo” means there are two turbochargers working on the engine. That usually helps the car feel punchier and more responsive, especially when you accelerate from lower speeds.
An RACQ check refers to a vehicle inspection service provided by RACQ (Royal Automobile Club of Queensland). It’s typically used during buying to verify the car’s condition and history-related items before you commit.
Having very low kilometres usually means the car has been driven less, so it may have less wear. But you still want to check the car’s overall condition, not just the odometer.
An Everest is a Ford SUV. “Bi-turbo” means the engine has two turbochargers, which helps it feel more powerful. Two turbos can also mean it’s a bit more complex to maintain than a simpler setup.
A “wet belt” is a timing belt that sits in engine oil. Since it’s in oil, it can wear differently than a belt that runs dry, so it’s something you plan for during maintenance.
The Toyota Hilux is a durable pickup truck. The host is saying they used to buy Hilux trucks from fleets/councils that get replaced after a few years, so the mileage is often lower than you’d expect.
“LS swapped” means the car has been modified to use a GM LS V8 engine instead of whatever it originally had. People like it because the LS engines are common, powerful, and have lots of parts available.
Concept
remote funds
They’re talking about paying from far away (like a transfer) and waiting for it to clear. Until the payment is confirmed, the car can’t be shipped or picked up.
Concept
transport company
A “transport company” is the logistics provider that moves the purchased vehicle from the seller/depot to the buyer. In car buying, this often determines when pickup can happen and whether the car is driven or trailered.
Concept
swap them over with another car
They’re suggesting taking the broken parts off one car and moving usable parts from another car to fix it. It’s basically a parts-transfer repair approach.
Term
rubber ones
They mean floor mats made of rubber. Rubber mats are good at catching spills and dirt, and you can usually clean them by rinsing them off.
Pre-molded mats are cut and shaped to fit your car’s floor area. That tight fit helps keep dirt and water from getting under the mat.
Term
Schmick service
They’re referring to a paid service plan that helps cover small cosmetic fixes later. The host says it costs around $600 for two years and you can make a claim if there are minor issues.
A “claim” here means filing a request under the service plan to have the provider repair cosmetic or minor damage. The host mentions paying a $50 amount and then the provider “can fix all the little imperfections,” implying a deductible or out-of-pocket fee.
A temperature sensor is a small electronic part that measures how hot the engine is. The car uses that reading to adjust how it runs so it doesn’t overheat and runs efficiently.
“Trident” here is the name of the parts brand they’re buying. Different brands of the same sensor can behave differently, so it’s worth choosing a reputable one.
The Honda ZR-V is a Honda crossover-style vehicle. In the podcast, they talk about cleaning it out and giving it a thorough wash. That’s the main point of the mention here.
The Acura Integra is a compact car known for being sporty. The podcast mentions a 40th anniversary event, which means people are getting together to celebrate the car’s history. It’s being brought up because of that anniversary weekend.
A part exchange is when you give your current car to the dealer and it counts as money toward buying the next car. It’s like a trade-in, but done through the dealership.
A Toyota Corolla is a common, dependable everyday car. Saying a 2011 Corolla is 15 years old highlights how long these cars can last with normal maintenance.
A “touch-up” refers to small paint repairs done to cover minor chips or scratches. The segment mentions a specific Toyota paint code (“Toyota 040 white”), which is used to match the color for the repair.
An electric car runs on electricity from a battery instead of a gasoline engine. It can still be made to feel sporty and high-end, depending on the model and trim.
EVs are cars that run on electricity from a battery. Instead of burning gasoline, they use an electric motor. The hosts are talking about why people argue about EVs.
“Three cylinder” just means the engine has three cylinders. It’s one way of describing how the engine is built, and it can change how the car feels and sounds. The host is saying they’re still enjoying a small three-cylinder car.
The Ford Capri is a classic coupe model. In the podcast, someone shares a photo but clarifies it wasn’t actually a Capri. That highlights the importance of knowing exactly which model you’re looking at.
They mention “Puma,” which is a Ford car model name. They’re joking/complaining that Ford keeps using animal names and should stop. It’s more about naming than how the car works.
The Mitsubishi Starion is an older Japanese sports coupe that was known for having a turbo engine. Here, it’s mentioned as a better option than the other car being discussed.
The Nissan Pulsar is a car model name used by Nissan in different countries. The hosts are talking about how one name (“Tedar”) got used instead of “Pulsar,” and that caused confusion.
The Ford Mustang is a famous American sports car name. In this clip, the speaker says the car looked good and had room inside, but they think the Mustang name made people judge it differently.
Some cars use screens for everything, and they’re connected so one screen can control or reflect what the other is doing. The host is comparing that approach to having real buttons and knobs instead.
A volume button is a physical control on the dashboard used to adjust audio volume without navigating menus. The host contrasts these tactile controls with screen-only interfaces, arguing that physical buttons can be more intuitive and faster to use.
A de-mister is what clears fog off your windshield so you can see better. In this discussion, it’s used as an example of an important function you want quick access to.
Brand
ranges
“Ranges” here likely means Range Rover, which is a Land Rover SUV line. The point is that the dealer mainly sells those SUVs.
A “nameplate” is basically the model’s name that you recognize, like Fiesta or Focus. Bringing it back means the company wants to sell a new car under that same familiar name.
The Ford Fiesta is a small hatchback car model. The podcast is talking about whether Ford might bring back the Fiesta nameplate (and the Focus one too). It’s a discussion about what models could return in the future.
The 5 E-Tech Electric is an electric car based on the Renault 5. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because the speaker likes that electric model. It’s being used as an example of what a future small electric could be like.
A “petrol version” is the same kind of car but powered by gasoline. The host is saying they might sell both electric and gas versions to reach more buyers.
The Hyundai Elantra is a compact car that comes in different versions. The podcast is talking about where a particular Elantra sits compared to the highest trim level. That helps determine what features and equipment it should have.
Car
Daewoo Espero
The Daewoo Espero is a cheap, older sedan from Daewoo. The hosts are basically saying that even a budget car like this could be a fun choice for an event if it’s the right kind of cheap.
They’re using “insider trading” as a joke. It means you have a secret lead—like knowing about a car that’s for sale but not advertised—so you can find it before other people.
The Hyundai Grandeur is a Hyundai sedan (a regular car with a trunk) that’s popular in some markets. Here, the host is just comparing it to another car they’re talking about.
Car
Hyundai Tiburon
The Hyundai Tiburon is a Hyundai sporty coupe from the 2000s era. The hosts are talking about how long it stayed around and how it got updated with styling changes (facelifts) near the end.
Government charges are the mandatory fees and taxes you have to pay to register the car and make it legal to drive. They’re why the final “on road” total is bigger than the sticker/base price.
A facelift is when a car gets updated partway through its life—usually changes to the front/rear styling and sometimes features—without becoming a totally new model.
A six-speed manual is a car where you shift gears yourself with a clutch, and there are six gear ratios. The host is saying that having six speeds was a bit unusual at the time.
Alfa Romeo is an Italian car brand with a reputation for being exciting and stylish. The host is saying the people who buy them tend to care more about the feeling of driving than about hassle-free ownership.
Term
resale of reliability
The host is basically saying that if you buy a car for passion, you might have to accept that it could be worse in terms of how much you can sell it for later. They connect that to reliability.
The Alfa Romeo MiTo is a small hatchback. In this conversation, they’re trying to figure out which Alfa Romeo model the person bought as a commuter car.
The Audi Quattro is an Audi model name associated with all-wheel drive. In the podcast, it comes up while someone is talking about what they were considering buying. The key point is that it’s tied to how the car sends power to the wheels.
A “price bracket” just means the budget range you’re shopping in. The speaker is saying their budget limited which cars were realistically available.
Car
Rover 416i
Rover 416i is a small car from the Rover brand. In this segment, the host says people bought it for a “nice” Rover interior feel, but they also believed it was reliable like a Honda. The takeaway is that buyers cared about both comfort and the reputation of the mechanicals.
The Honda Concerto Hatchback is an older Honda compact hatchback. The podcast is talking about who tended to buy these cars and mentions there’s a story about them. It’s more about the car’s background than a technical breakdown.
Concept
arrangement
In automotive history, an “arrangement” can refer to a business deal between manufacturers—such as branding, supply, or market-specific agreements. The host claims Honda had an arrangement with Jaguar or Rover Australia, and that this relationship influenced how the Concerto was marketed and styled in Australia.
“Wood inserts” refers to interior trim pieces designed to look like wood, often used on door panels and dashboards. In this segment, the host uses the presence of wood inserts to argue there was a shared design/branding influence between Rover and the Honda Concerto.
Car
Rover 416
The Rover 416 is a British car model from the Rover brand. In this story, it’s used as an example of a car that had wood-style trim, which the host says helps explain similar styling on another model.
“Wood trim” is interior or exterior trim that imitates wood grain, typically for a more upscale look. Here, it’s used to connect the outgoing Rover 416 and the Honda Integra to the same styling theme the host claims shows up on the Honda Concerto.
The Honda Accord is a long-running Honda model. Here they’re talking about older (1980s) two-door Accords that often have low mileage because they were kept in good shape by older owners.
A “parts car” is a second vehicle kept mainly to harvest usable components for another car. Enthusiasts do this when a model is rare, expensive to repair, or when specific parts are hard to find.
A “front wheel drive burn” is basically a burnout where the front tires are the ones spinning. It’s a dramatic way to show the car can lose traction and spin the tires.
Concept
coast it
“Coast it” means you stop accelerating and just let the car roll using its momentum. You’re not pushing the gas—you're seeing how far it goes before you need to do something else.
This phrase means buying something that feels a bit more rebellious or exciting than what you “normally” would. The host is saying some people want that vibe from a sportier car.
The BMW M3 is a high-performance BMW made by BMW’s performance team. The point here is that people who buy an M3 are often looking for something more “serious” than just a loud, flashy car.
The BMW M4 is a sportier, higher-performance BMW than a regular 4 Series. In this discussion, it’s mentioned as another example of an M car that tends to attract people who care more about the driving experience.
Audi RS cars are the brand’s high-performance versions. The host is comparing them to BMW’s M cars in terms of how “serious” the performance identity feels to buyers.
The Mercedes-Benz C63 is a high-performance C-Class. Here it’s being used as an example of a car that feels more about making noise and impressing people than about being a dedicated track-style machine.
The “C-Class” refers to Mercedes-Benz’s C-segment lineup, with higher trims and performance variants like the C63. Here, “big C class” is used as a shorthand for a non-car person choosing a Mercedes C-Class for status and presence rather than track-focused performance.
The Suzuki Swift Sport is a small Suzuki that’s tuned to drive more fun than a normal Swift. The host is basically saying it’s sporty, but not as extreme as the most hardcore “hot hatches.”
The Suzuki Swift 5-door is a small hatchback with four side doors, making it easier to get in and out of the back seats. The podcast is discussing the Swift range, including sportier versions, and how people choose between them. It’s mentioned in that context of what buyers would have chosen new.
A “hot hatch” is a small hatchback that’s been upgraded to feel fast and sporty. Think quicker acceleration and better handling than a normal hatchback.
A “warm hatch” is a hatchback that’s a bit more fun and sporty than the regular version, but not as hardcore as the fastest hot hatches. It’s the middle ground.
The Mazda 3 is a common, practical compact car. In this story, it’s brought up as the kind of normal, budget-friendly option someone might buy instead of a sporty hot hatch.
GDI means the car injects gasoline directly into the engine’s cylinders. It can change how the engine responds and feels compared with older fuel-injection setups.
The Honda Jazz is a small hatchback that’s popular for being practical and easy to use. They bring it up as part of the list of cars they checked while shopping.
The Toyota Yaris is a small, practical car that people often compare with other compact hatchbacks. Here it’s just one of the cars they looked at while shopping.
The Swift Sport is a more performance-focused version of the regular Suzuki Swift. In this story, they test drove it and liked the extra “zip,” so they planned to get one.
Term
fang
“For a fang” here means they took the car out for a quick, fun drive to see what it’s like. It’s basically a short test to feel the car’s character.
The Suzuki Ignis Sport is a more sporty version of the Ignis. The podcast is talking about whether it should be included or considered in a comparison. It’s mentioned because it’s a specific trim level people might choose.
Car
Volkswagen GTI
The Volkswagen GTI is a sporty version of a regular hatchback. It’s often used as the standard for what people mean by a “hot hatch,” because it’s still practical but drives more enthusiast-style.
Recaro makes car seats that are popular with driving enthusiasts. They’re designed to keep you more firmly in place when you corner or accelerate hard.
Term
decent wheels
“Wheels” here means the rim-and-tire setup. Better wheels can make the car look nicer and can also help it grip the road and feel more responsive.
Concept
throwing more money at this to fix it cosmetically
“Cosmetically” refers to appearance-only repairs—things like paint, body panels, and surface-level damage. The speaker is describing a cost/benefit decision: if the car is being used hard on track, they’d rather spend money on function and reliability than on making it look perfect.
The Toyota Paseo is a small Toyota model with a sporty look. In the podcast, they correct themselves about the name, saying it wasn’t the Paseo they meant. It’s mainly about making sure the right model is identified.
Semi slicks are special tires with less tread than regular street tires. They usually grip the road better, which makes a car feel more responsive and stable when you drive hard.
Term
Wrecker rims
“Wrecker rims” sounds like wheels pulled from a junkyard. People do this to change the car’s style and sometimes to fit different tires.
The Nissan Skyline is a well-known performance car model. The podcast is talking about car generations and which specific versions people mean. It’s mentioned because the conversation is about identifying the right model.
“R32” is a label for a particular generation of a car. In the podcast, they’re talking about the early R32 version and who bought it. The point is to identify the exact model generation.
The Volkswagen R32 is a hot-rodded Golf—basically a faster, more performance-focused version. In the episode, it’s described as the closest option to a 911 that still looks like a regular Golf.
Leasing means you’re renting the car for a period of time instead of owning it. “Heavily leased” suggests lots of these cars were leased, so it’s more common and less “special” than something bought outright.
The Volkswagen Golf is a very common everyday hatchback. The point here is that the R32 version looks close enough to a regular Golf that people might not notice it’s the performance one.
“Weapon” here is just slang for “really strong” or “really capable.” They mean the R32 is secretly a serious performer even though it doesn’t look extreme.
They’re basically saying that many of these cars didn’t last, so there are fewer good ones left. When a car becomes scarce like that, the remaining ones can cost a lot more.
The Ford Falcon XR6 Ute is an Australian ute known for pairing a strong straight-six (XR6) with a practical body style. The “Ute” format is a key part of why it’s popular for work and everyday use, while the XR6 engine family gives it performance character.
Term
E gas
“E gas” is a name for a gas-powered version of the car. It means the car is meant to run on gas (LPG) as its main fuel.
The Ford Falcon is a big car that was made in Australia. The podcast is talking about a particular version with a canopy at the back, and how that changes things for repairs or work. It’s mentioned to make a practical point about that setup.
The Subaru WRX is a turbocharged car that’s popular with enthusiasts. It’s known for making noticeable turbo sounds, and the hosts are using it as an example of a “fun but practical” family car.
When a turbo “spools,” it means it’s spinning up to start making boost. The “spooling noises” are the sounds you can hear as the turbo ramps up when you press the gas.
Formula One is the highest level of racing with very advanced engineering. The host is saying Honda’s racing work influenced technology used in their cars.
A twin-cam engine uses two camshafts to control the engine’s valves more precisely. Fuel injection means the engine sprays fuel in a controlled way instead of using a carburetor.
The BMW E30 is an older BMW 3 Series from the late 20th century. Car fans like it because it’s fun to drive and has lots of parts and upgrades available.
The Honda Integra is a Honda compact car that many people liked as a daily driver. It’s often mentioned by enthusiasts because it’s reliable and has a strong community around it.
An “aspirational car” is a car that feels like a dream purchase for many people. It’s the kind of car you buy when you’re aiming higher than your usual budget.
Diesel is a type of fuel used in diesel engines. The hosts are talking about diesel because it’s commonly used for farm equipment and was often chosen for vehicles that need to last and run economically.
A Land Cruiser is a tough Toyota SUV built to handle rough work and last a long time. The hosts are saying farmers often chose diesel versions because they’re dependable for everyday farm tasks.
Peugeot is a car brand from France. The hosts mention it because, back in the 1980s, diesel cars from brands like Peugeot were common choices for people who needed fuel-efficient, long-lasting vehicles.
Brand
Merck
The transcript says “Merck,” but it’s not clear which car brand that’s referring to. It’s mentioned alongside Peugeot as an example of diesel passenger-car brands farmers could buy.
“Ricer age” is slang for a time when people made cars look like they were super fast, mostly with cosmetic mods. The vibe was more style than actual speed.
A body kit is a set of aftermarket exterior panels—like front/rear bumpers and side skirts—meant to change a car’s shape and stance. In “ricer” context, it usually means the kit is chosen for an aggressive, showy look rather than aerodynamic efficiency or structural improvements.
A spoiler is an extra wing-like piece on the back of a car. It can help with airflow, but on modified cars it’s also often there just to look aggressive.
A “three-speed auto” is an older-style automatic transmission with only three forward gears. It can feel less smooth and may make the engine work harder at steady highway speeds.
“Rattle can” means painting with spray paint from an aerosol can. It’s usually quick and cheap, but the finish may not last as long as professional paint.
A five-speed manual is a stick-shift gearbox with five forward gears. In this segment, they’re saying the manual version was less desirable because the transmissions had reliability issues.
“Blew up” just means something broke in a serious way. Here, it’s about the transmission failing, which is why people preferred the other gearbox option.
The Cadillac Lyriq is an electric SUV. The podcast says it has official pricing in Australia. That’s why it’s mentioned—so people know what it costs and can plan to buy it.
That phrase means the car has a turbo engine and also drives all four wheels. The turbo helps the engine make more power, and four-wheel drive helps the tires grip better.
The Volkswagen Beetle is famous for using air to cool its engine instead of water. That’s why the host says you can think of it as an air-cooled setup.
The Mazda 626 is a car model from Mazda. Here, the host is hinting at a turbocharged (“turbine”) version and a specific engine layout with multiple valves and overhead cams.
Variable valve timing means the engine can change the timing of its valve openings. That helps it run better at low speeds and make more power at higher speeds.
Valve lift control changes how much the engine valves open. Opening them more can help the engine breathe better, while opening them less can save fuel.
The Honda CRX is an older Honda that’s known for being a small, sporty car. In this segment it’s brought up, but the host says it’s not the right match.
This means the engine uses a turbo to push in more air, and it sprays fuel straight into the cylinder. Together, that helps the engine make power more efficiently.
It’s a way of spraying fuel directly into the engine so the mixture is “layered” inside the cylinder. That can help the engine burn fuel more efficiently.
The Toyota Crown is a classic Toyota model from Japan. In this segment, they’re talking about an older Crown version (the “MS123” one) that comes with lots of extra parts.
Term
MS123
“MS123” is a code that identifies which specific Toyota Crown version you’re talking about. It helps people know what parts will fit and what exact car it is.
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Welcome to Car Talk.
It's Tuesday night here in 90.9 North West FM.
It's me, Matty J, on the line with Mr. David Prince
and Mr. TurboTurbo himself, Mr. Anthony Falco.
How are you, gentlemen?
Great.
Thank you.
Busy week.
Busy week?
And yeah, back here in the lovely land of Osworth
without the lack of weather.
You've had a busy week.
Families come back from overseas.
What's it like to have them all under your roof again?
It's great.
It's great.
It's great.
It's great.
So glad to hear that, David Prince.
That's great.
I saw your post.
You said you seemed so much happier when she rocked up.
And you were looking forward to it for so many weeks.
It just felt like it was coming for a long time.
And then now it's officially happened.
And you've got some really lovely time
to spend with your family, which is really great.
We are also joined by Edward Bonting.
How are you, Edward?
Hello, good evening.
I have somehow fixed my Zoom.
That was fun, Matty.
Very good.
So, yes.
Well, good to have you guys on board.
Edward, good to see you.
Anthony, good to see you.
David, good to see you.
Let's crack on with some car updates, gentlemen.
Mr. Turbot Terry.
Yeah, look, there's been a little bit of an update.
Not about the Volvo.
The Volvo is still going nice and strong and having no issues.
I'm currently in the turret crew because I'm boxed in by Jess's current Everest.
But the most recent news has been a new addition to the car club at the moment.
The Mrs. Everest has been somewhat replaced with a slightly newer Everest.
So I ended up finding this one up in Queensland of all places.
And it was a bit of a too good to be true sort of price,
except for when we've done the checks, it actually all lined up.
So a 2020 Everest trend exact same as what Jess currently has,
which is the two-liter four-cylinder bi-turbo setup on it,
for $30,000 in the end with $44,000 case.
It's pretty good.
That's super.
So we did the RACQ check up there.
I contacted the Ford dealership up there who's been servicing and maintaining it for its life,
which was all good and all clean, no issues, no problems with it.
There are a few little cosmetic niggles here and there,
which is to be expected still with a six-year-old car.
But the main kicker was the fact that it's got so little kilometres on it.
So Jess's car will be...
Her current Everest will be up for sale shortly.
That's now got just coming up to 110,000 case,
which I mentioned to Mr. Bunting who is throwing it out to his cohort of car dealership friends
to see if anybody is interested before it goes live for private sale.
But we will see what happens there.
But at this stage here, we've now got Turbo Terry.
We've got two Everest.
We have the Crown.
We have the Volvo.
And Mum's little Peugeot was her daily three-pick.
Yeah, that's the way to do it.
Anthony, that's the way to do it.
So if anybody is interested in a bi-turbo Everest
that's been in the family since 30,000 days with full support service history,
hit us up.
Absolutely.
There you go.
I've got a question.
Oh, sorry.
Can you guys hear me?
Yeah, absolutely.
There you go.
Did you go searching for that car or did you just happen to come?
You go, Dave.
The new one.
Did you hear Ed's question?
I did not.
Can you hear me, Turbo Terry?
Go again, Ed.
We'll see whether I might be able to hear you.
Can you hear me now?
No.
Can you not hear me?
No, I'm getting nothing.
No, no.
OK.
Well, I'll ask, was the...
Hang on.
Why can David hear me but Turbo Terry can't hear me?
Good question.
I have no idea what's going on.
Anthony, what's going on with that?
Yeah, I'm getting nothing on that end of things.
I'm only hearing Matt and Dave at the moment.
What the hell is going on?
No.
No.
We're having a...
We're not having a great start to the show, gentlemen.
No, you're really not.
Oh, look, Dave, you can repeat the question on Ed's bar.
Well, I don't know if it's the same question.
I was going to...
Oh, actually, I do know because I heard the question.
Just ask your question.
He asked the question.
Did you go looking for that car or did it just appear?
Did you just not find it randomly?
Look, it was a...
Look, it's a bit of both because Jess was umming and airing
whether she wanted to get another Everest again
or whether she wanted something a little bit different
and get a Volvo as well.
So she was umming and airing.
We did have a look just physically sit in an XC90 D5
that was around the corner from our joint.
She liked it, but was not that specific one.
Yep.
And then...
Because Jess's car is due for a service in about 500K,
so it is coming up for it too.
It was a bit of a case of it's a good time to get rid of it
while it still has a level of value in it
before things get too long and hairy in the teeth
once it gets to 150 and beyond
once you got the wet belt that has to be considered
and everything else like that.
So it was then like,
all right, well, let's see what else sort of is around
and as an option.
And then this one here happened to pop up
and I think we must have gotten within like the first
maybe week that they had it.
It was through, what is it?
Easy Auto 1, 2, 3, one of those ones where it's like,
you know, haggle bottom price sort of dealership.
Yes.
And then...
Was it a privately owned car or was it a...
Was it a business car?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'd need to have a look at the photo of the books
to see what it said.
But you know, look, I think there was a handful of marks
here and there, but you'd think if it was a business car
it would have more than 40,000Ks.
But who knows?
Can you ask him, Terry, if it was an X car?
Yeah, I didn't get that far into the questioning of it.
Okay.
You know, Anthony, it is asking a question
you still can't hear him, but he said to ask you,
was it an X, a police vehicle perhaps?
I definitely would say no.
Too tidy for that.
Yeah, way too tidy and way too many,
way too little kilometres to be an X police car.
Well, the reason I asked about, like,
I bought about four Hiluxes in a row back in the day,
one after the other every sort of three years,
and they all had like 40, 45,000Ks on the clock,
because that's a time when often they would get rid of them,
sort of local government and sort of, you know,
council sort of owned vehicles.
There's something about turning them over around that time.
Obviously, they're very popular with councils
and government and that levels of government.
So it may well have been one of those sort of cars,
and that's never a problem, because they usually service them.
I think it's highway patrol.
Anthony, what am I getting to do?
Tell him what I said.
I can hear you now.
You can hear him now.
I just did then.
Hello, Terry.
Terry, can you hear me now?
I can hear you now, Mr. Bunting.
What the hell is going on?
I firmly believe that's an ex-highway patrol car.
Absolutely. That's the covert Everest.
Effectively being LS swapped.
Yeah.
That's exciting news.
Congratulations to Jess.
That's a nice purchase.
It's a good car.
Yeah.
So I think at this stage here,
again, I'm waiting to get the phone call,
because obviously you do your remote funds
and wait for that to clear before the transport company contacts you
and everything like that.
But I would imagine probably the end of next week,
it should be ready for pickup from the depot,
and yeah, everything said and done.
You know what's the best thing you can do about this, Anthony?
There's lots of things I can do about it.
You can take all the damaged bits in the new one
and swap them over with another car.
All of that was what I already said to Jess as well.
I mean, it is a different color,
but I may have said that the interior floor mats,
we've got rubber ones in Jess's car.
I don't know where this one is like the pre-molded sort of ones
that you can sort of get,
because that's what it looks like in the photos.
And I said for the ties and the rims and everything like that,
because it has a spotless,
we can change those ones there out and then that's fine.
We did get like the Schmick service.
So I think it was like 600 bucks for two years.
So all the little nitty gritty things that there are with it,
we'll just in six, 12 months time,
we'll do a claim and pay the 50 bucks
and they can fix all the little imperfections.
I think there was maybe the ROTQ guy said
there was like four or five little,
almost like hail dings on the roof.
That's why it's cheap.
Yeah, always.
I think he said there was like three or four that were on the roof
and I think there was one that was on the bonnet.
It's been in a Queensland hail storm.
Exactly.
And it's an X-R-Way patrol car.
Exactly.
This is getting better and better.
Matthew's new sound effects.
I've got new sound effects.
Ladies and gentlemen, I've got new sound effects on there.
I love it.
You need something to tighten yourself over these days.
I absolutely do.
I'm here till next week.
Does it have to be next week?
Can I be soon?
I know.
I've got my new favourite buttons, gentlemen.
This is really good.
From when David and I did some podcasting a while back.
The same sounds were on our board.
I've got an O my God one.
I've got an applause.
I've got a laugh clap.
I've got a drum roll.
I've got a bit of the sad trombone.
Big applause.
Psychastic laugh.
And a cassette swap.
It's sensual.
Let's try that one.
Yeah, nice.
Yeah, nice.
We're upgrading here on Car Talk, gentlemen.
Yeah, it's pretty smash.
Yeah, probably something.
We have the console working properly.
Yes, correct.
Don't worry, under control.
David Prince, updates with you.
Besides your lovely daughter and family coming home.
What is happening in your car world?
In my car world.
I got a...
I went to see Mr. Super Cheap and got a...
I think the Trident is the brand, the temperature sensor for the 94 Accord.
So the mechanic, well known to Mr. Bunting and I,
is looking at doing that next couple of days for me.
The SI Accord still resides presently at the Mechanics.
I haven't...
I've had my hands full with other things
and I haven't even contacted him to see and he hasn't contacted me.
But he knows that, you know, I'm not in desperate need of that car
for any immediate use.
What else have I done?
I've driven the In One a couple of times.
That's about it.
I did clean out the ZRV and give that a good clean
and a good tub in...
Our kids are taking that over.
So that will save them having to look for a car
and baby seats and all that sort of thing.
That was the reason for the new purchase here today
that is still, you know, still getting used to the mings
and the bongs and the different way of doing things.
But a little bit better each time.
A little bit better each time you drive.
Although I did couldn't get off the sounds of the forest
the other night for some reason.
Sounds of the... Is that a thing?
Yeah.
Yeah, there's about a dozen pre...
like soundtracks that you can choose
if you don't want the...
Music.
Any other audio on.
And there's sounds of the forest.
There's a spring day.
There's sounds of the city.
Yeah, which I really don't think you want that.
I don't think that's very relaxing in a car.
No, you don't want that.
I think what though?
They are quite relaxing besides the one in the city.
It feels very tranquil.
It does.
It's really good.
I mean, you wouldn't want to be in the car
by yourself after a long drive.
I reckon...
I reckon you'd drift off pretty easily.
Off into Nine Island.
No, there's a few things coming up this week.
There's actually involved tomorrow
in a live feed on YouTube
for Honda,
who are doing a sort of mini restoration
modification process on a third gen prelude
at a workshop in Mulgrave
that's going over eight hours, I think.
It starts at one o'clock and
12.30 or something goes through to late 30 tomorrow night.
So that'll be interesting.
I don't quite know how it's working,
but I've organised a few cars
and people will bring their cars along to that.
That'll have happened after this year.
Hopefully it goes to air,
so there's probably not a lot of people.
I'm sure it'll be on YouTube
as a watchable after that.
Oh, and this Sunday coming up is the 21st...
sorry, 40th anniversary of the Integra weekend
at...
we've booked a really cool little coffee place,
coffee roastery in Moorabbin for that.
Ruby a coffee in Alex Street.
And yeah, we'll have every generation of Integra
lined up there and some good coffee.
It'll be a nice way to start a Sunday morning.
It's going to be cold on Sunday, so coffee will be good.
Very exciting.
Edward Bunting, up next with you.
Yeah, speaking of cold, on Sunday just gone,
I took the Mooc on a nice drive.
My first drive ever with the Mooc Club.
I've been to other events, but not drives, you know.
So, they started right near my house
and I just thought, well, come on.
That's the one we're going to.
That is, you can't really not go on that.
So, Matthew was meant to join me,
but had other priorities.
So, a second Matthew was dragged in.
And last minute, fortunately, he was available.
Thank you to MotorTrader Matt.
Thanks to MotorTrader Matt.
So, yeah, that was great actually.
So, started in East Malvern, wound around the streets,
a bit sort of how to build highway,
and out the back of, I don't know,
when you go out in the back of the Dandenong,
Sassafrasse and Alinda and out that way.
And then wound its way across to Coldstream,
appropriately named.
And we had a little bit of a snack there
and then door to all the way home.
But it didn't rain.
I was okay with the cold.
I just didn't want to be wet and cold.
Yes.
Because that will promote sickness.
So, and the Moke was running very happily.
Those old British cars like cold air.
They're happier in cold air,
even though it was assembled in Australia.
But, yeah, it was running really well.
And the oil leak that it had a while back,
where it was pissing out of the rear main seal
and onto the ground,
that seems to have fixed itself with use.
The seal's obviously sealing better than it was
with a few drives.
So, I'm happy about that.
So, yeah, that was a fun day.
What else have I done?
Sold the Volvo.
The Volvo has gone to a new home.
And what we like even more about that transaction
was the lady that bought it,
traded a very tidy little Corolla.
In parts exchange.
A part exchange, as Mike Brill would say.
And we do like a Corolla.
So, it's the full district nursing spec
being a white hatch auto 2011 model.
But really tidy car.
Like, normally you get an old Corolla
and it's had a bit of a life.
This thing looks fresh as.
Can you believe a 2011 Corolla is now 15 years old?
That's wild.
Yes, I know, yes.
How many Ks?
187.
So, it's done a little bit, but great service history
and Red Joe till next year.
So, that will soon be for sale.
One of the guys that works once up for his father-in-law maybe.
So, we'll see if that might not even need to be advertised.
Is that an ascent or an ascent sport?
It's the base district nursing ascent.
Ascent.
Which is good because the steering wheels
on all the ascent sports are completely munted now.
Yeah, well, no, this wheel is great.
Yeah, well, they were, I think they had the plastic wheel
or the iron wheel ascent.
It's sort of like a crocodile skinny grip, you know?
Yeah, the ascent sport went to a faux leather one
and they've disintegrated these shocking things now.
Well, this one is good.
I mean, yeah, really, I was just going to ask you
after the show, David, for Toyota 040 white touch-up
unless matters gets me some
and I thought you've probably got a tube of that.
I think I've got a few of those.
Yep, so it just needs a couple of little spots
on the bumper bars.
So, that's the Volo Out Corolla in what else?
Ooh, I've agreed to buy
and I haven't seen it nor picked it up yet,
but on paper, I've agreed to buy a one-to-one Metro shades.
The little boxy van one.
In a manual, done 140
and also it goes next year.
So, good case, very good book.
No, it looks like a real little tidy car.
That's from someone you and I know, David,
in the motor industry who contacted me and said,
hey, this little plums come in.
Same place I bought the Saab.
Oh, nice.
And I said, oh, that's a bit of me.
I'll have that if, you know, if you need it gone.
Yeah, I might be picking that up Saturday.
Nice.
What else can I tell you?
Moke, Mazda, that's a Mazda Volvo.
I think that might be it.
We talked about driving in the big girl map the other week.
We did, yeah.
It was great.
Big girl's resting.
She's sleeping.
She gets so tired.
She gets so tired to be gone.
In her old age.
In her old age, yeah.
She's 40 something.
She's over 40.
Yeah, that's it in the car world.
I don't think I've done anything else.
Lovely.
Can't believe it's with me.
I had my Fiesta service last Wednesday.
How is that?
Did it get a good bill of health?
Yeah, they said it's totally fine as it should be.
As it should be with $10,000.
So he's like, oh, you know, this is your last cap price service.
I'm like, I'm well aware.
Believe me, I'm well aware.
He's like, oh, this service is like, I can't believe we're having to do this at 12,000 kilometers,
but we've got to do spark plugs.
They did all the filters and everything.
I'm like, yeah, well, that's part of it.
Part of it.
So get it done.
They also replaced the clip.
That was a bit how you're going from factory.
So they replaced it and they gave me a spare one in case that breaks.
So thank you.
Nice.
Thank you, Jefferson Ford.
That was some good stuff.
What clip is that?
Underneath the dashboard.
One of the underneath dash covers was just a bit.
It was just a bit.
It wasn't like fully seated properly.
And they're like, yeah, no, we'll, we'll replace that for you.
So replace the game you're sparing.
They're like, look, it shouldn't happen again, but here's a spare one anyway.
I'm like, sure, I'll take that all at your end.
So they gave me a Mark EGT to drive for the day.
Well, which was, um, which was quite a quick car, isn't David Prince?
Quite a quick car.
Staying unnecessarily quick.
Yes.
Not everybody.
Not everybody.
It does hurt your insides.
It's, um, it just brood.
It's like Luca's nitro thing.
It hurts your guts.
It does hurt your guts when it, when it comes on.
But it's different with, with Luca's nitro thing is you hear it.
So you're sensing it.
You've got that sense.
This is just instantaneous and just you feel a wheel scrambling for grip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The thing just launches.
It's nuts.
Yeah.
It is a very, very quick car.
I think they're like just, just over three seconds or something to a hundred,
which is pretty, just pretty wild.
They, uh, yeah.
So it was actually, it's not a bad thing to drive.
Um, it drives like a car, which is what you'd hope it would.
And it also, like it handled quite well.
Like it is, it is heavy.
Um, I liked the color that I had grab a blue.
I thought, I thought that was quite a nice color.
Don't think it's a bad looking vehicle.
Actually, I think it's for an SUV, for kind of an SUV ish electric car.
It looks good with its big Brembo's and everything.
So, so yeah, it looked better just purely because it had the black,
but where, where the grill should be was actually black like a grill.
So it's sort of that, that to my eyes, that had a car look car like them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And for some reason, you only get that on the GT spec, but whatever.
So I mean, that car is about 90 odd, 90 odd K and you know,
it had done over 20,000 Ks, but you know, and it was,
well, what a time I finished it.
I had just over 20,000 Ks and it's, you know, it felt tight as a drum.
There was no rattles, no squeaks.
Um, like, you know, had probably one of the best sound systems I've ever been
in a car had like the subwoofer in the dashboard and everything.
It was pretty impressive.
It was an impressive piece of kit.
I also, but I also see why Ford isn't selling them because, you know,
they are, they are quite pricey for what they are.
But I guess what, what electric car isn't for, for kind of that,
you know, level of performance and spec.
But look, yeah, it's always nice driving, driving other cars.
And as I said, London last Tuesday show, you know, I don't hate EVs.
I like EVs, controversial car topic.
I think, I think they're, you know, they've got their place and, you know,
I'll keep enjoying my three cylinder little car outside that I've driven today.
So, so that, that, you know, it kind of makes, makes sense for that.
But I think, Anthony, you, you had a, as a lone car, a GT marquee, correct?
I actually didn't mind it.
Again, for a, for an electric vehicle, again, as we know,
it was only put forward as the Mustang name for emissions reasons and things like that.
But no, drove really well, comfortable.
The kit inside it was good as well.
Like if I had the choice between like, you know, go to the standard Tesla fanboys
or, you know, go for something, I think to be honest, if it wasn't the Mustang name
and was something else Ford related would probably have done better than what it is.
But in saying that I would happily, like, I'm not the one who goes out and buys an EV,
you know, got a hybrid, but, you know, if I was given one, I would not complain.
And it would be one, if I was looking at an EV that I would consider for something
that isn't just a Tesla or something else that fits in that sort of categories of things
as being still a little bit left for you, but it still shouldn't be called a Mustang.
Ford don't have good history in regards to that, have they?
I think when I was in Scotland last, I sent you a photo of a Capri, which, yeah,
which was not a Capri, not the Australian one, not the British one from the 70s.
And Puma, they did it with Puma.
Yeah, it's, it's, they've got to stop that.
There are other animals in the kingdom.
Just stop it.
Stop it.
No one's fooled.
Just feel like Mitsubishi and get a starion.
A Tedar is not a Pulsar.
No.
But see, they went different and they called it a Tedar, even though it was called a Pulsar
in other markets and that shot himself, that shot him in the foot.
That didn't do well for him.
Yeah, they should have kept the name.
To be fair, there wasn't a great car.
No, it was a terrible car.
Yeah.
But yeah, no, it's interesting to get that opinion.
What was your opinion on David?
Were you surprised about it or?
Yeah, yeah, look, certainly it was, it was very capable in a lot of ways.
I think, and I echo your comments that if only it wasn't called a Mustang,
it was not a bad looking car, especially that color.
It's a great color and had plenty of room in, you know, in the back
and the interior was really nice.
Still not a fan of the great big pads in the middle.
That's just, yeah, not a thing I'd embrace anytime soon.
No.
A lot of buttons and knobs to turn.
I completely agree, completely agree.
Which a lot of manufacturers are going back to as we've discussed previously,
you know, because it's not just me, an old person thing to say.
Absolutely not.
What are they going back to?
No screens or buttons?
No, as well as.
So screens and integration between the two.
But yeah, a lot of them have got now volume buttons and hitting controls buttons
and dials and stuff as well, which is a lot more intuitive, I think.
Absolutely.
One thing I'll say with the Volvo does have that not as many buttons as I would like,
but it definitely does still have.
Like if you've got your de-mister, if you've got your volume button,
if you're on a pause music, you can do that still anyway through the other ones.
But I mean, you've at least got those options, but it would be nice to have more.
But again, we're in that category of individuals who, you know, don't change it.
Something that's not broken.
I mean, in a bit of a green switch with all of you for that.
But I see why I fought it to make it.
When I returned back to the dealer, though, I did speak to the dealer that sold me the car.
Shout out to you, Jake, you're a great, great guy.
Every time he sees my car, he's like, ah, you know, that was a fun month to sell
because, you know, one of those things that he just sells ranges and Everest these days,
that's pretty much all he sells.
He also said that, like, you know, there is nothing else.
You know, if you were to replace that, what would you buy?
He asked me that question.
I'm like, look, there's really nothing else that would kind of fit that bill.
Like there's an I-20N, a bit like Yaris GRs too much and stuff.
So I said, yeah, there's nothing else that you could actually replace that with.
And he's like, it's such a shame that, you know, Ford stopped selling, you know, little fun hatches
or hatchbacks in general.
Like, so his daily drivers are a little Ford Focus and, you know, one of the later ones.
And he's like, it's a great car.
It's a shame that, you know, they didn't market them, didn't sell them.
And I said, yeah, well, Ford did market.
And he's like, yeah, they didn't help themselves.
And they've shot themselves in the foot a few times with a few of the marketing things that they've done.
So, you know, I can see why Ford have been grumbling, they've been grumbling
of bringing back the Fiesta and Focus nameplates.
But, you know, only time will tell.
We'll see.
Don't do it unless it's the right car.
Correct.
Absolutely.
So there's been talks of them bringing the Fiesta back based off the new Renault 5 electric car.
I like the Renault 5 electric car.
It looks cool.
Great.
Yeah, I would agree.
So it'd be the same chassis as that, which is apparently in development.
So apparently it's a good thing, I guess, because, you know, it's electric.
There wouldn't be much to go wrong.
But, you know, they'd probably have to do a petrol version if they're wanting to hit that market.
But, you know, we shall see what happens in the not too distant future.
Now, Edward, you and I spoke yesterday.
I can't remember what about, but yeah, we did.
We mentioned the topic for this evening, which is what would that profession drive?
Oh, yes.
We did talk that.
Yes.
You know, we're all for stereotyping here on.
Love a sweeping generalization.
Absolutely.
A sweeping generalization and what we made some, some pretty, how would you say it?
Sweeping generalizations on the phone yesterday.
But, you know, I got thinking.
Cars are synonymous with people.
Like MX-5s with hairdressers and stuff like that.
Even though I've never seen a, I've never ever seen a hairdresser driving an MX-5.
I don't know how they go.
I don't think I've ever met it.
Well, I mean, I don't really go to hairdressers anymore.
But when I did, I don't recall any of them driving an MX-5.
So, you know, prior to the MX-5, it was a silica.
Really?
Yeah, that was the hairdresser's car.
That was the hairdresser's car.
From day one, from early 70s, that was, yeah, it's a bloody hairdresser's car.
So is that, is that another word for just saying girls car?
Is that, is that what people are just trying to make it out to be?
I think so.
I think it was more a car that was, you know, maybe a bit more show than go.
It was, you know, a bit, a bit more on the cosmetics than the substance of the motor.
Hyundai Escupé, we're looking at you.
Yeah.
Tiburon.
Sao.
I kind of like it.
Tiburon.
I think they're cool.
I don't.
All right, I got shut down pretty quickly then.
Well, there's a guy who bought the Hyundai Tiburon.
That is a great question.
Who was the buyer of that bucket?
I'll tell you who the buyer of that bucket was.
We're an older couple who, yes, wanted a last car.
That was a last sporty car.
Kids are out of the nest.
When you say older, like fifties?
Yeah, the fifties.
And they've bought that car because it was a cheap sports car.
And of course they got it automatic because they were all virtually automatic in them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, you know, I didn't think it was like their last ditch fling at some scaric of youthfulness
and they get the red auto Tiburon.
Yeah, I'm going to be even more specific.
I'm going to actually say it wasn't couples.
It was ladies who turned 50.
So they said I'll have a Tiburon.
Thanks.
I'll have one of those because it's a high end day.
It's an upgrade from my Excel.
It's still sensible.
Upgrade from my Excel on my land.
On my, at my accent.
Yes.
Why can't I have a two door sports car?
Why can't I go a bit silly?
But I'm not breaking the bank.
I'm not spending 80.
I'm spending 30.
What were they?
37 or something?
They were about 40k weren't they?
Like on the, like, you know, with everything?
No, it wasn't that much more than the, than the, you know, top of the range Elantra.
I'm going to look that up now.
How are you going to do a Tiburon?
Yeah, how much was a Tiburon?
A red book.
Tell me the original price.
And where are they now?
Jesus, that is a good, good.
I was chatting the other, or messaging the other night, our friend Andrew about the festival
of the unexceptional, which, which he can't go to in Europe.
But, you know, the idea of it being here, you know, of course we're all on board with
that.
And I was thinking what we're talking about the definition of what makes it, you know,
an unexceptional car, which is sort of hard to pin down until you pick it apart a bit.
Anyway, I was thinking, oh, what would I take to that?
Is that event ever happened in Australia?
What would I take?
You know, and I was reminded the other day of a Daewoo Espero.
Oh, that's a good car.
I thought, yeah, that was like the.
Hard carrying member of that club.
Say that again, David.
That car is a card carrying member.
Yes, absolutely.
It is.
It is.
Because it was the big day where it was trying to be European or was based on a European
something, I think, but.
Was European design, I think.
I think so.
Yeah.
And they crapped on about that in the ads constantly.
But I thought, where are they?
You just, you couldn't find one, except I do know where there is one.
But I thought that's almost, that's almost worth buying if it was cheap enough and just
waiting for that event.
Imagine rocking up in a Daewoo Espero.
That would be very.
You would win the event.
You would win that, you know.
I don't know if this prize is the most boring car or something.
But they actually look okay.
That's the thing.
And Espero, it wasn't a horrible looking car.
It had a bit of Citroën Zantia.
It did.
Certainly did.
Yeah.
A bit of NSURO 80.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Sort of.
The more I think about it, the more it interests me.
I'm going to find one.
I'm going to send it to you and you're going to have to, and you'll be like, oh, bloody.
I went looking around Australia and marketplace the other night for sale for a day with Espero.
Wow.
Nope.
I know where there is one.
That is for sale, but it's not advertised.
So if you want to find one, you just, I don't think you would.
This is the car talk equivalent of insider trading, isn't it?
That's right.
Anyway, sorry.
So who bought a Daewoo Espero new?
Oh, I think a retired.
Yeah.
And they, I will get the bigger car because we want to do a few longer trips.
Yes.
But, you know, you're getting still a Daewoo.
So, you know, it's not breaking the bank there either.
We can fit the babies.
Like the grandkids can come in the backseat with us.
They didn't want to go to the Laganza though, because that would have been silly.
That was too excessive.
Too excessive.
No, that was the equivalent of a Hyundai Grandeur.
Grandeur.
As we call it, the delusions.
The delusions.
Hyundai delusions.
Yeah.
So what are the, we talked about Alfa Romeo.
Great number plate, wouldn't it?
Delusions.
Delusions.
Put the badge on the back.
Delusions of.
Just to get back to the Tiburon.
They were 36, 780 excluding government charges.
So they're about 40 on road.
In what year was that?
That was 2010.
I was right at the end of their run.
They had quite a long run actually, that last model Tiburon.
It was like facelifted like four times.
I'm going to go back to the first one that they did.
Because I really liked the first facelift.
I think the first facelift that mid-2005 with that blue.
I think that's, I've already picked out the color like an idiot.
So you're looking for a Tiburon to bring to any.
I think that would be a cracking car to bring to, first of all, the unexceptional.
That would be the car.
When they were first released in 02, how much were they?
Let's have a look.
35, 880.
So yeah, they didn't really go up much.
They had a six-speed manual if you could find one.
Which was a bit of a woof.
Yeah, six-speed manual.
That was a novelty back then.
We talked the other night about Alfa Romeo's.
And who buys an Alfa Romeo?
And I said, these are very passionate people.
Creative souls.
You know, often work in design or, you know,
needed creative sort of pursuit.
You know, accountants don't buy Alfa Romeo's.
You know, these are, these are people who will sacrifice a bit of
resale of reliability for passion.
Passion and emotion and emotion.
The hilarious thing is one of my best mates who did my apprenticeship with,
he actively went out and he ended up buying a little Alfa as his commuter
to and from the work sites and everything else like that.
What Alfa was a what model?
One for eight.
A Mito?
A little baby one?
No, no, it was when I was like the not manual, like the auto weird.
I'll sell a speed.
I'll find it.
Yeah, it was one of the seller speeds.
Terrible transmission.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I gave him so much shit about it.
But yeah, no, he absolutely loved it for, for what it was.
But I mean, he's not, he's not a car person by any stretch of the imagination.
But yeah.
So there you go.
So, so tradies can fit into it for an Alfa.
Well, I'm going to say, like, hear me out and, you know,
I'm probably going to get a lot of hate percentage,
but I don't think a lot of people have buy Alfa Romeo's or car people.
And I'll say yes and no.
Yes and no.
I think you get it.
You get both.
You, you certainly get people that buy them because it's the look and the
bright red paint and the chrome and the whatever.
I think there's no middle ground.
No, that's true.
You either get the patients who just love the look and the emotion,
or it's a real, when I say real Alfa, like an old,
beautiful one on five series Alfa or something or a GTB from the 80s.
Yeah, then you're a car person.
Well, I mean, just for the shits and gigs of it.
I mean, I do believe I sent you a couple of Alfa's Matt when I was
looking prior to buying the Volvo of a Quattro, full Margio, whatever
else it was.
And the 4G Stilvio.
4G Stilvio.
Great.
Yes.
I was just like, maybe, maybe.
And then I was just like, no, I just, I have seen them around.
And they do look good.
I believe my response was to you.
Do you want pain?
And in question, Mark, I think that was my exact response.
And then you just proceeded to move on to Volvos.
Well, look, immediately, there wasn't very many that were in my
price bracket that were, you know, not 150,000 Ks on top of it as well.
So I mean, it happens.
What other people do we want to stereo type with?
Well, before we get to...
I've actually got one because I mean, just going off the day we sort
of saw the thing, Rover 416i.
Oh, now just be careful.
David's going to go in and defend them to the hills.
I'll tell you who bought that.
Rover 416i.
That was definitely older conservative people.
They sort of probably liked the idea of a prestige carpet.
Their practicality really held them back.
They thought, oh, well, it's actually a Honda.
So it's very reliable.
But it's got the Rover plushness of the velour seats and the
woodgrain trim.
So it was a...
I think Mr. and Mrs. Bucket.
That's basically what they...
You know, it's basically that car.
The only thing I've dispute about that is the majority of people
who bought them didn't know they were a Honda.
It had Honda all over it.
Literally, literally.
And that goes back to the Quintet, of course, which was never
sold here as a Honda, but that the Rover Quintet was based on
a Honda Quintet.
Well, it was a rebadged Honda Quintet.
My godmother had one in South Australia.
And she somehow, because it was a quality...
It was a British car and your Rover's always had a good name.
I said, oh, really?
That's interesting.
I don't think they are.
She said, oh, no, it is.
It is.
And somehow she managed to break the gearbox.
It was a manual.
I don't know what she did.
Anyway, somehow she managed and it was in the workshop.
Oh, some months because they had to wait for the parts to come
from England for it.
Did they?
From England?
Yeah, from Japan, mate.
I don't think any part of that car has ever been to England.
No, what it was is that the original parts have come from
Japan to England and then it's coming to Australia.
Yeah.
It really was the same thing.
I actually came straight from the South Armour to Melbourne.
But there were a lot of them around Turac and that.
A lot of people that had money bought them at the premium.
They're offered.
They might have had a Jag.
They might have gone to Fisk Brothers in Box Hill or White Horse Motors.
Perhaps back in the day.
Yes, bought the Jag for Dad, for the husband and bought the Rover
for the little woman to go up to the village.
Just to pop down to the village.
Yeah.
The little Rover.
Yes.
And Honda Concerto's were very much the same buyer, I feel.
Well, interestingly, there is a story kicking around that they were
meant to be a Rover Concerto.
And because Honda literally had the arrangement with Jaguar
or Rover Australia because we were the only market with our
Solar's Rovers.
And then that's why the Concerto's had the wood along the plastic
wood inserts along the top of the doors and the dash.
Yes.
Because the outgoing Rover 416 or the five door Integra had the
wood trim as well.
So it was and then something happened and the deal fell over
and Honda thought we'll blow it, we'll sell it as a Honda.
So they just kept loading them on the ships.
And they still occasionally pop up with very low mileage because
of the person that bought them and they've given them carefully
and looked after them for many years.
Yeah, Concerto's were someone's last car usually and they were
someone who was old and you always see them with, you know,
it's done 130, 110.
They're not, they're sort of not that rare with that.
And you know what else is like that?
Those are two door accords from the 80s.
Yes.
You know, they were sort of like conservative a bit or even the
four door version more so, but they're often low miles.
They're not that good, but they're often low miles.
I can tell you who bought one of those, one of the Rovers.
One Christian Falck, didn't he, Anthony?
He certainly did.
As to why I thought I'd throw it out there.
There you go.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, my brother, that was his, one of his first cars.
He had a 418i.
He also did have a, you know, had the Honda variant of it as
well as a parts car.
Yeah.
So that was, that was a bit amusing.
And finally in a loss.
Did you have a Cordia Turbo at one point?
That was David.
David had a, an NA Cordia and you also had a
Cordia Turbo as a parts car.
Okay.
But yeah, funnily enough, they, they both had very
interesting car choices.
I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure somewhere in my photo album, I
have a, have a photo of him doing front wheel drive burn.
It's up in Wilson's promenade.
I remember that car quite well because your brother dropped me
home one afternoon after hanging out at your place.
And it had no carpet in it.
This was the, this was the Rover.
And I'm like, where's your car?
He's like, oh, you know, it's getting steaming.
It was getting steam clean or something.
Cause it was just like, I don't know what happened to it.
It's better than I asked.
Yeah.
Better than I asked.
It was, yeah.
And yeah, he drove it like a race car.
It was, it was a good time.
I remember that.
Was it a manual or an auto?
It was a manual.
That was a manual.
Well, that was a different, extracted a different demographic
as well.
It's a sports car.
Well, they were a cracking little car.
I've got the three door hatch version sitting in the garage at
the moment.
They're great things.
Yeah.
I remember the, the funny things we used to do about some,
you know, all right, let's see how far we can.
Sorry.
How far we can get away from home, turn the car off and get
there without having to restart the car.
Just by rolling.
Yeah.
I'd be like, all right, we're like, we're like, no, no.
Very flat.
So it'd be like, all right, we're, you know, three or four
blocks from home coming past my grandparents place.
And it'd be like, all right, just turns the car off and be
like, let's see how far we can go before we have to restart
the car.
And you know, it'd just be like, get to 60 and then just
try and coast it there the entire way the best you can.
Hope the wheel bearings are good.
Yeah, actually, actually most, most of the time it did pretty
well.
Occasionally a couple of corners, you know, would, would cause
a couple of challenges here and there, depending on which
way he goes.
But yeah, hold 416 I did the job.
But no, he did, he did bring it up at one point when he came
over.
I think last time there was like, oh, I wonder if I can find a
416 or other that I can then, you know, pick up
our fast Facebook marketplace and, you know, just slowly
restore it for whenever I come back to Australia and, you
know, this can be a little run around car and everything.
Like, yeah, do it.
I don't know what you're going to put it or what you're going
to do with it, but do it.
Well, where are you going to find one?
That's, that's a place today.
Hmm.
Is there one there?
Hmm.
Is it manual?
Most of them were auto.
No, this was auto, I think.
Lovely car as a manual.
Hmm.
There you go.
What else do we need to?
Yeah.
So I think in the car yesterday, we, we discussed a few cars
like, like in just general passing.
I think one was C63, which are owned by drug dealers.
Um, you know, absolutely.
You know, it's a, it's a profession.
You know, someone's got to do it.
Someone's, someone's, someone's got to, you know, got to
flaunt their money.
So, and this is, we're not talking about like W2O4s.
We're talking about the W2O5s, you know, the, the twin
turbo ones, Harley included.
Um, so I feel like C63s were also bought by professional,
usually guys, as you know, it's, it's probably more a skew
towards a male audience, that car.
And I think that they're often, you know, they're not bad boys,
but they want to be a big bad boy.
So, real estate agents.
Exactly.
I knew a real estate agent that had one.
Like, like I have to have a nice-ish car for work,
but I'm going to get that because it really bucks when you
start it and I want to feel tough.
You know, so they're, they're, they're not drug dealers,
you know, but they're, they're, they're respectable,
enough professions, but they're, they're, you know,
they just want a little bit of a midlife crisis edge kind
of car.
Would you say that would be the same for like M3s and M4s
and, and like Audi RS products?
I think, yes, I would, but I think an M car is a bit more,
there's a bit more substance to it, maybe in terms of the
pedigree or the, being a track car sort of thing.
Whereas a C63 was just like, yeah, it makes a big bark
and it goes, wow, wow, wow, it makes all the noise.
And it's not that they're slow or not that they're a bad car,
but I think the M car is a bit more dedicated to it.
You're a bit more of a car person, maybe buying an M car.
Whereas a non-car person would go, yeah, give me the big C class.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Well, here's one for you.
Who would have bought a Suzuki Swift Sport New?
Because I've always had this car because it's, it's not hot
enough to be a hot hatch.
It's not, it's, but it's not cold enough to be,
to be, you bought by your sister.
So I'm like, who, it was like, it's always a, you know,
it's like a, it's a warm hatch, but who bought them new?
I'm like, I'm just, I'm struggling.
That's the one carbon thing of all week.
I'm like, who bought that car?
Like that's such a, such a, well, niche car.
I know two people that have bought them new.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, I can describe them for you.
One was my friend who had a golf GTI that of course did golf
things.
Break.
And he just needed something.
He had a sort of a budget to stick to.
And oh, he said, oh, look, I'm just going to get a Mazda three
hatch or, you know, just something generic here.
Serato or something generic.
We went to Mazda and I just, we came away from the Mazda three
hatch and he goes, it's okay, but it was just dull.
And over the road was Suzuki.
And I said, I said, why don't we go and look at the Swift sport?
You know, they're a cracker.
And he goes, oh, okay.
So took it for a fang and he goes, well, this is fun.
Like it wasn't the GDI in terms of the handling and the funk
of the doors and what have you, but it was in terms of in a city
blip blip fun, you know, had a bit more spark and personality to
it than a Mazda three with a black roof liner that you can't see
out.
So he entered my pet hate.
So he, um, he ended up buying that and, and he ended up quite liking
it.
Like at first he was like, no, he had it for a week and he was
like, he was like, oh, it's not the GDI.
But then after a while he's like, you know what, this is a
cracking city car.
This is a good little machine.
Was that a manual auto ed that one?
That was a auto, um, had the paddles and whatnot.
The other person I know who still owns this, my, my other friend
ended up selling it and going overseas like a year or two later.
Um, but the other person I know, she was, uh, my very good family
friend, she's, she was 75 when she got that car.
She was coming out of an older Suzuki Swift first gen and which
is one of the ones I subsequently owned and on sold.
But, um, we were in the dealer and we looked at jazzes and we
looked at Swifts and we looked at something, uh, Toyota, I
think the Yaris maybe, and she just liked the Swift.
And I said, well, that you've had one.
You know, they're, they're very much the same sort of shape
and style and the windscreen and everything.
And, and then we drove the normal one.
She said, oh, it's okay.
And then we took the little Swift sport for a fang.
And, and she said, oh, I like that.
I like that zip.
And I said, well, we'll be having one of those.
So she got a speedy blue Swift sport, which, um, which she
still drives.
Good color.
I like that.
Great.
Yeah.
So I don't, it's, I know what you mean, Matthew.
It's a tough audience to pick.
I mean, normal Swift, you could reel off the top of your head.
I, you know, that he bought it for me for my first car.
Yeah.
First car, you know, that's what I was thinking.
And definitely a few I think for Swifts.
Absolutely.
I mean, I, I love them and our friend.
Yeah, great guys.
Rowan drove one for years, the first gen.
And I think they're driven by people who are very secure in
themselves.
You know, they're not out to prove anything, but they know a
good car when they see one.
Um, so the sport.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, how many guys are getting around his Swift sports?
Or is it, is it more female audience?
See, the funny thing is with the Swift sport, the main, the
which is, which I, you know, when I, when I think about it, I'm
like, well, actually my old colleague, he had not the latest
gen, but he, I think, don't know if he still has it.
He, I helped him buy one years ago and that, um, yeah, male just
and had one overseas.
The Swiss woman loved it and wanted one in Australia.
Uh, so maybe there's more guys getting ready in
Swift sports than you think.
I think young ish professional wanted a fun little car for
not much money.
So like, like, you know, probably works in the corporate
world in the city, likes little fun hatch that, you know,
still it's, it's got, it's got nice seats and, you know, funky
interior and, you know, can still hold its own when you, when
you go to pick up the misses to take it for a date as well as
have a bit of fun on the weekend.
So that's for me.
I'm a big fan, but then I'm secure.
I'm not trying to prove.
No, I'm with you on that.
I think that's, um, yeah, I've always liked them.
I think they're great.
Well, look, on that exact same token on things as well, where
would we put them?
The Ignis sport.
Hmm.
That's a, that's so the pre, the pre Suzuki Swift.
That is a niche vehicle.
Well, it's, it was pretty heavily related to the GTI.
Hmm.
With GTI.
So, um, it would have been that they were known for making a,
a war, you know, well, hotter than lukewarm.
I'd, you'd have to say that the GTI is where they were cracking little things.
Um, but I think the, the Ignis sport was a gutsy thing in the
recaro seats.
There's one, I saw, there's one guy who works at a car wash in,
in Benares on a high street road and I saw it today again and I thought,
Oh, I do like that.
Put some decent wheels on that.
That'd be a cool little thing.
Well, the, the, the, the hilarious part about this one too is Matt will
remember the days too.
When we were doing nationals, we were literally at the point of buying
one, um, to, to try around the track.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, um, yeah, I think it was like the day that day after I gave him a
phone call and I'm like, Hey man, you look good to go with it.
And he's like, Oh, look, um, look, I'll still sell it to you, but I had,
had to, had a crash the other day and, um, yeah, it's no, uh, it's going to
need some work to it, but you know, I'll give you $500 stuff.
I'm like, yeah, man.
No, no.
It's getting thrown around a race track.
And, uh, you know, as it was, as what we were happy with and the condition
it was in, we're not throwing more money at this to fix it cosmetically.
We should really disappointing cause that was in the, uh, in the,
in the electric blue as well.
And that was cool.
I had the, I had like, did I have the fish in that?
I think it did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They were really cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Would not have sold that one.
No.
Instead of the Paseo.
Got the Paseo.
Paseo's were bought by old people.
There you go.
That's, that's, that's yours.
Yeah, who bought Paseo?
They were pretty conservative.
Like you gotta remember a Paseo was the same price as a TX3 Turbo.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah, they were.
And that's, and people still bought them over a TX3 Turbo.
I don't understand how.
Well, no, because it's Toyota and people will just buy Toyotas in
every,
How much, how much fun did you have in that Paseo?
I'm not going to lie.
It was, you know, I mean, to be fair, after we put some decent
tires and suspension in it, it was, it was far better.
Uh,
All we did with some semi slicks and some, uh, some Wrecker rims
that I painted.
We were a green and, uh, yeah, I was going to say it was just spring.
We didn't do suspension.
It was just spring.
It was a good little car actually at the end of it.
It was, it was fun.
It was, yeah.
I missed that car.
That was good fun.
Um,
I like an Ignis.
A lot of people might not buy it.
I think they're cool.
Oh,
Even the new ones, you mean Eddie is talking?
Yeah.
Yep.
I like the new ones.
Simple car.
Um, they're not a, they're not, there's not a lot to them,
but I mean, they really do look like a roller skate.
They do.
I like the little white arches and they're interesting looking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
They're not,
they're not just a boring blob.
They've got a bit of character about.
Absolutely.
I'm,
I'm much on the,
on the fence.
I got on any greens with you.
Hold out your hand.
Hold out your hand.
How much is an Ignis?
I'm looking on cars.
Here's one for you.
Who bought the first generation R32 Golf,
Golf R32.
Oh yeah.
That's easy.
That's, you know,
it boys.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I T boys who are gamers.
They, they're very pale.
They never see a lot of daylight.
They really want to Porsche.
Like if they had some real money,
they'd go by a 911.
But, um, no,
the closest you're going to get is an R32 that's been heavily
leased and they can get away with it because it doesn't look
that different to the normal golf.
So that, you know,
the poor suffering partner who can never get them out of the
house, um, is not aware of just sort of what a weapon the R32
was.
Am I, am I on the money?
I think you're absolutely spot on.
Would you agree, David and Anthony?
I agree.
Yeah.
Golf R32.
They're, they're big money these days actually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Stupid money.
Because they're so rare because most of them broke.
Yeah.
Correct.
True.
I should believe it or not.
We were one of the only markets where they didn't offer the DSG,
uh, in that, in that car for the, for the first gen R32,
which was the Mark IV golf.
Yeah.
Mark IV.
There'd probably be a few here as a grain port,
but the factory, they were all manual sold in Australia.
There's an Ignis for 76999
17 model.
That's the new shape.
Yeah.
New shape.
Yeah.
Done 208,000 case.
6999
That's quite a lot of little car for the money.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
All right.
Here's, uh, have you got any other ones you want to talk about guys
before I get to my lists?
No, go ahead.
Oh, go for it.
Who bought a EQL PI Ute, uh, base model Ute, uh, Edward Bunting?
Who bought them new Edward Bunting?
Who bought them new?
Trades, you know, like base model Ute.
These are people who aren't concerned with the XR6 and the body kit
and the sports seats steering wheel.
They're, they just don't, they want the steely wheels and they just,
they're practical people.
Trades, you know, who are going to put a canopy on it or,
you know, put some sign writing on it, you know, your plumber,
your electrician, your builder, you know, this is, this is a
straighty staple and it was in an era.
There was still dual cabs obviously back then,
but it was, it was a much more car like and affordable.
Next one, uh, is who bought a,
and they were tied us because they went the eco LPI.
So, you know, the gas was only back then when they were new,
probably what 40 cents a liter, 50 cents a liter.
So yeah, so they were, they were tied us from the get go.
The fact they bought a new car was astounding.
And should I follow the eco LPI XR6 Ute the other day?
Was it Tommy, Tommy, so what Tommy's got?
Oh, is it really?
Is it silver?
Oh, no, is it like a charcoal gray?
Oh, no, he's a silver, lightning strike, lightning strike.
Lightning strike.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, they look great in an XR6 and Matt, Matt has been sniffing
for one and one of the ones that came up on car sales,
I think was an orange tangerine.
Oh, no.
XR6 Ute.
Now it wasn't an eco LPI, it was the E gas,
but still dedicated gas.
Just a little bit older, but cracking spec.
Anyway, missed out on that one.
Yeah, it was a great car.
And there's one that's been doing work at a house a few doors
down from me exact that car.
And I wondered if it was that car.
It was the same color and it was on gas.
Oh, there you go.
I thought how many of those are they going to be?
Now, I've obviously chosen which demographic fits for it,
but what trade specifically do we think is going to be in the LPI?
That's a great question.
I've got my thought.
It's got to be a chippy.
I was going to say chippy or plumbers usually more have vans,
they do have vans.
They do.
It's probably more chippy, yes.
I'm going to throw the curve ball and say a painter.
Okay.
Probably a painter.
Or concreter.
Concrete.
Yeah, because you can...
Don't concreters have trucks like big trucks?
No, you can put your mixer in the back.
Yeah, you can put your little mixer in the back for small jobs.
He's the guy that the council hired to fix up the footpaths.
Let's be honest.
How many painters are in a Falcon where it's got the canopy on the back
and it's just absolutely covered or spilled paint and everything else
right over the back tailgate?
The back tailgate.
I was going to say that.
Let's be honest.
That's going to be more ideal for an LPI than anybody else.
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
These next few ones, I'm going to ask,
I was based on the cars that you gentlemen owned.
Who bought those cars new?
So, Anthony, who bought your territory turbo brand new?
It's going to be somebody who had moved up to the family
but didn't want to get rid of a level of a performance car.
Okay.
They have sold off their...
WRX.
Yeah, something like that.
And they still want a car that makes the spooling noises.
But, you know, it has to be the family commuter
and they have to justify it to the other half.
Okay.
And what profession would they be in?
If they were able to afford a territory turbo?
Well, that's a good one because they are not cheap.
No, they weren't cheap when they were new.
They were very pricey.
Look, I could say a project manager.
Mm-hmm.
Because I could still use that as a bit of a work-esque car.
You could write it off.
Yeah.
They could still write it off as a tax write-off.
Well, that's probably my thought in that sort of balance.
Because I mean, yeah, definitely, it's a trade you thought to me
like how am I going to smooth this one over about buying a,
you know, performance family SUV.
Mm-hmm.
Oops.
Yeah, that's fair.
Would you guys agree with that?
Yeah.
Totally.
David, who bought your red Integra brand new?
We know the actual one who bought your brand new.
Look, a number of people, back in the day,
I knew a couple of people that had them,
and they were all pretty cool people, I've got to say.
Mm-hmm.
Like they, there was a really nice Gothic grey one getting around.
I remember back in the day, and the number plate was Euro,
big grey plate to have that now, but it was a personalized plate.
It was like a, obviously not a hot hatch,
but it was certainly a warm hatch that people could enjoy the FY.
People appreciated, I mean, Honda was so big in Formula One
at that time, you know, they appreciated the,
and they really pushed the way that a lot of the technology
that car had come through the racing program,
and the double wishbone suspension,
that beautiful, you know, twin cam injected engine.
Yeah, so people, and they weren't cheap, you know,
they had to have a bit of money, but it was certainly,
I don't know, advertising, you know, advertising,
or, again, a bit like the Rover being sensible, you know,
like, probably...
Stylish, but sensible.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Had a heartbeat, still, and wanted a bit of excitement.
Mm-hmm.
But, yeah, back in the 80s, I mean,
Honda were sort of more closely aligned
with a cheaper version of a European car
than a Japanese car.
They were the next best sort of choice.
If you didn't go Euro, you know,
people, it was often very acceptable to have a Honda.
Yeah, if you weren't buying an E30,
you'd go and shop an Integra, maybe.
Correct, correct.
And I know people that had, you know,
from back then had plenty of coin,
and they would still happily get around in Hondas.
They were seen as, you know,
they were cut above all the other Japanese brands
in terms of the sort of the classiness of them.
Mm-hmm.
And the dear old girl that bought my car brand,
you know, I'm just, thank my lucky stars,
she did, she was still driving a manual, so...
Mm-hmm.
And it was, because a lot of them were autos,
but, yeah, in a manual, they're much nicer to drive.
Much nicer.
It's funny you say that, a good friend of mine, Mary,
her and her husband used to,
like, so just for some context,
he's a very, very wealthy man,
CEO of a company, travels all over the world constantly,
and he always bought Hondas.
Mm-hmm.
That's all he bought for him and his wife,
they bought, they just bought Hondas.
Yeah, he's also driving Hondas?
Driving a cord?
Yeah, he did, yeah, he's driving a cord.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that's an interesting one, yeah.
So it's very, I think you're right,
I think you're back on the money, like, you know,
they always thought, yep, Hondas is,
you're not too pretentious,
but you've got some sort of class in you that you're buying a...
Yeah, yeah.
A quality product.
Yep, correct.
Like the lady over the road when I was in high school,
she, the husband always drove Merckx,
and here, I, Beamer's and Merckx,
he went from a three-series coupe, like E46,
into a W124, the last of them,
and then I think he got another Merckx after that, maybe.
So he was in the sort of the bigger Eurocar,
and she was in a couple of Civics, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Like an EG Civic, you know,
was GL, was her little run-around car, you know?
But they were stylish.
You know, the EG came out, the curvy one,
with the split tailgate, like it's a little car,
but geez, it was stylish, and it really sort of punched above,
and that wasn't that cheap for a little hatch,
but it was quite acceptable to get around in that
as a little about town.
They sold tons of EGs.
I used to see them everywhere.
I mean, you don't see them as often as you used to,
and they're all for obvious reasons,
they're, you know, they're getting old and thrown away,
but yeah, geez, you used to see them everywhere, EGs.
Like they were, they were, you know, they were one of those,
like even EK, like you still see a lot of EK's around, I think,
especially in my area.
That EK was still classy,
but maybe it didn't quite have the impact of that EG,
that curvy, the curvy, glassy EG really was a stylish thing.
I read like an EG hatch, I think an EG hatch,
with the split kind of, you know, rear end is pretty,
it's pretty cool.
I like that.
And in one of the color, the blue or the red.
Well, that turquoise, I thought that turquoise was kind of cool,
that came in.
They didn't know that, the turquoise we only got
in the very last of the ED hatches.
ED, yeah, that was ED.
The partition green.
Oh, okay.
You've probably seen plenty of them online.
It was popular in the States.
Oh, in the EK, yeah.
In an EG.
In an EG, yeah, yeah.
As well.
But yeah, we never got that.
We got the captive of blue that Ed was talking about.
Okay.
Very nice color that.
What other cars you got, Matthew?
My next one was one of your cars, Edward.
Who bought your 190 diesel?
No.
Because that is, you've got to be,
you've got to be specific to buy a diesel 190.
Yeah, their name is Werner.
And you are from Germany.
The only cars that you would be buying.
Yes.
The Germans.
Well, we know who bought that car and you are bought it off
original owners.
Yeah.
So 190.
First of all, you're stretching to get into a bends, you know,
you're not full of money, but you've got some money.
So the baby bends is, it was sort of an aspirational car for
someone that might otherwise not been able to have a bends
at all.
You know, these things were sort of 50, 60s, thousands,
not, you know, 120, 150, 180 or whatever.
So I think that car knew was somewhere around 50-ish,
maybe 45.
And the late 80s might have been a bit more than that.
Because you know, inflation, they were quite pricey.
Have a look, look that up Matthew, in your little,
how much was the 190 D in 1986?
I think it was probably around that 48 or 45 plus on roads
or something.
So it might have been 50 drive away.
So you were stretching to get into a bends.
This was probably a bit of a, a special car.
You may not have had bends as before.
For a lot of people, those 190s was their first.
First bends.
Right into a bend.
So aspirational buyers probably slightly older Cleontel,
finally got a bit of money or it's a retirement car.
Or maybe it was a, you know, a smaller run around for the
second car maybe, but you've got a bigger luxury car as well.
Something along those lines.
And now, but the diesel, you know, 99% of those were petrol.
You know, just give me the 190, 190.
The diesel is usually reserved for very practical folk who
like the, the taxi durability of those motors.
So they would, I would argue these are not fly by night
people.
These are people who plan to get that car for a long time.
And so it could well be a retirement car, sort of a forever
car.
I think it's just maybe phosphorus to graziers.
You know, quite right over the, the people I brought that car
off, you know, lived out in Sunbury and they were farmers.
They were of European heritage and that was the good car.
And it was sort of the retirement car.
Yeah.
Because obviously the benefit of running on diesel back then,
maybe it's still is now is they get subsidized diesel, I think,
to run all the machinery and what have you.
Fill up the car from the exact same, like you have a tanker
that comes to the farm and fills up your own diesel, you know,
storage tank, and you can fill up the tractor with it and you
can fill up the, the harvester and you fill up your car.
Hence farmers used to run diesel Land Cruisers and the good
car would often be a diesel too, whether it's a Peugeot or a
Merck. Back in the day, it was, you could own really only
Peugeot and Merck were doing passenger car diesels.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like back in 1985, 86, there wasn't really anything else
mainstream in, in cars that was diesel as a, as a passenger car
or as a luxury, you know, a nicer passenger car.
Yeah, nicer car.
Hmm.
So yeah, you know, that's exactly what I can't, you know,
Sunbury farmers, nice car, retirement car, diesel, fill it up,
where you fill everything else and they're not, they're not
concerned about speed.
They're concerned with durability.
What year was it?
What year is yours?
The 80, it built an 86 delivered early 87.
So 86es started at 59, 7, 6, 7 excluding government charges.
Yeah.
87, 70 grand, 7,400, 88, 73, 600 and in 89, 73, 600.
So they weren't cheap.
They really got up there.
That's more than an LTD.
That's a lot of money.
Yeah, they really got up there in the late 80s.
It was, it was inflation central.
They were, yeah, big dollars, which is what helped them hold their
value, the older ones so well.
I mean, yes, they held their value because they're good cars and,
you know, they had long model runs.
And so, you know, you could get into an 85, 190 and it's the same
shape of being still sold in 89, you know, so that helped it.
But the fact that they were nearly 80 grand in the late 80s
and they were 50 grand in the mid 80s.
Well, yeah, that also helps it because it just drags everything up.
Yeah, absolutely.
Got to agree with that.
And my last one is for you, Anthony, before we get to the car quiz.
Who bought, okay, so it's the early 2000s.
You're wanting a, you know, a cheap little run around and you go
to Toyota, you don't go to Toyota.
You go to Mazda, you don't buy Mazda.
You go to Ford, you don't buy Laser.
You go to Honda, don't buy Civic.
But you go down to Chrysler and you buy a Chrysler Neon.
Who the hell bought Chrysler Neons?
That is, that is.
No one in their right mind.
Chrysler Neon.
Hmm.
That was your first.
Oh my God.
Well, look, technically, yes.
Technically, it wasn't the first car that I purchased.
No.
No, he didn't.
No, no.
My brother bought a Chrysler Neon as his first car back when the
ricer age was going on from a dealership in, in Faulkner.
And by ricer, I mean it had the full ricer body kit.
It had the massive spoiler on the back.
It had everything going for it.
And it was manual.
It wasn't the, it wasn't the three speed auto, but we then decided
to de-ricer it and the paint went on it.
And then we started to rattle can it.
And then it basically got to the point of just living in undercoat
gray and state is undercoat gray for a large period of time.
Whilst I did own it before I then purchased my first car.
But no, to, to, to go back and answer your question, nobody in
their right mind buys a Chrysler Neon.
Cause I can't even imagine why somebody would.
Do you think it was just because like back then they'd never done
anything before here really Chrysler like, no, not for a long time.
They had the 70s and what have you.
But it was the first of the modern Chrysler.
So it was a name that people knew.
It was different.
They're quite, quite different to the other offerings in that
small Ford or sedan market.
Yeah, look, I guess.
You're probably thinking it like your, you know, small family or
like your maybe receptionist sort of gets into it, you know,
that sort of category of clientele might be looking at that
where it's like, well, it's a Chrysler still, you know, a
reputable name.
It's, you know, not something out of the ordinary, but you know,
it's still a small little commuter that could be a, you know,
small family car or if you got, you know, just you, your partner
and bugs and that was basically the three of you and that would
fit into that sort of category.
And I could see a pulsar four door or something.
Yeah, but there were 25 grand.
Like I'm looking at almost all new and like when they were new.
So there's a bit of a premium on them.
There was far more of a premium than that of like a, you could
get into a 323 for 20, like shades, 32
three for 20 grand.
Much better car.
Much, much better car.
As I said, nobody with the right mind.
Yeah.
They didn't sell that many.
No.
You know, and finally enough on the whole, not selling many
of them, when it came to us getting rid of it and we loaded
up to the records, they actually gave, we're going to give us
more money for the three-speed automatic and the five-speed
manual.
That's for me.
It's just, yeah.
What's that?
What's that?
Because all the three-speed automatic was, was more,
more sought after because they all blew up and the, the
transmissions weren't very good.
I'll say you could use it for parts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whereas who wants a manual?
What did the, what did the person do?
What was their job that bought a neon?
I'd say, I wouldn't even say.
They're desperately wanting to be different, but they've not got
that much money.
As I said, receptionist.
Receptionist or a librarian.
I think, I think a librarian would have bought a, would have
bought a neon.
No, librarians are too conservative.
This is someone who, I don't know.
Maybe they, they're, they're part of a pyramid selling scheme
or something like that.
They sort of are like, yeah, come to the information night.
You know, I just got a neon and they're into public speaking
and they got to type a personality.
Yeah.
They're a type a personality.
And you know, and they, they want to be American desperately
cause you know, Ozzie's, but the back then was sort of becoming
a bit obsessed with American culture.
So they want to, they want to be American, but they've still got
no money really.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
The leader of a pyramid selling.
They got sucked into Amway when they were.
They're an Amway rep.
They've got a time share and neon and they're doing a bit of
Amway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they're named like, it's a guy and his name's like, you
know, Craig, Craig, not Craig Craig.
It's Craig.
Sure.
Sure.
That's the best one of the night.
I think that's the best one.
Look, I think we're going to, we're going to come back to this.
I want you guys for some homework for next week to write some more
down and we're going to, we're going to discuss who, who, who bought
these cars, but it is time for the quiz, gentlemen, where we ask
10 questions plus the bonus questions.
Gentlemen, are you ready for the quiz?
Let's go.
All right.
So we've got a few different themes tonight.
I've got some music questions for cars.
I've got some, I know.
And I've got some brosa, brosa, brosa questions.
Brosa question.
Yes.
Brosa, brosa questions.
All right.
Question number one.
Cadillacs to speak, stick with, stick with American cars.
Cadillac.
Sure.
What if a David to say it?
Sure.
There we go.
Sure.
Yeah.
Has announced the new lyric has got its official Australian pricing.
Oh.
Do we care?
Not really.
Too much.
Closest to how much is it?
What is the lyric?
It's like an SUV.
I think they're coming with two or three SUVs.
A big SUV or a medium?
It's kind of a medium.
It's kind of like a mark E kind of size, actually, to be fair.
Then I'll go $93,800.
$93,800 says David.
I'm going to go $83.
$83 says Edward.
Chebo Terry.
I'm going to split the difference and go $88.
$88.
The answer is $95,000.
David Prince.
So would you have a lyric or would you have a Mustang marquee?
I don't know.
If that were the only two cars to choose from in the world,
I'd have the lyric.
I saw one on the road and I thought, OK, well,
not the worst car I've seen.
Very interesting.
Unusual.
Question number two.
Honda announced a massive loss in the last financial year.
In Australian dollars, actually, I can play that.
Hang on.
Or the...
There you go.
That's better.
Ed.
So Ed, how much do they lose in Australian dollars?
Or do you close this too?
Was it $3 billion?
$3 billion?
I give closest to three bills as Ed.
It was a lot.
It was a lot of money.
I'll go $4.5 billion.
$4.5 billion?
I'll go $3 billion and $2.
Well, Anthony, the $2 saved you.
So I'll give you the answer.
That's for you, Anthony.
So it was $3.7 billion.
That is a crap ton of money.
Sorry, Ed.
What do you know I got?
That's just annoying.
You had a $4.5.
Okay.
So, Anthony...
$3.7?
$3.7.
Who's close?
Yes, it's out of those two.
Anthony, it'd be a good buy.
I'm within $600 and odd thousand,
and it was close at $800 and odd thousand.
Friday.
Correction, $600 and odd thousand.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter, Anthony.
You got the point.
Sorry.
Continue with question number two.
Bonus question.
Why?
David.
David.
It was because they put too much money
into an electric car program.
Well done, David Prince.
That is the point.
This is going on.
The prelude also counts in.
They have decided to ditch a TV strategy,
which is weird because the...
You mean the top selling sports car in Australia?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the one.
That's the one.
Question number three.
What did the letters and numbers of TX3 actually stand for?
I'll give you a point for each.
David.
David got in there.
The three was the number of doors.
That is correct.
So, that's one point.
No.
Ed, you're in.
Was it turbo for the T and X is the four-wheel drive?
Not quite.
You went all turbo and went all four-wheel drive.
Edward.
Sorry, Edward.
Anthony.
I'm actually not too sure.
Not too sure?
Yeah, no.
No.
I'm going to buzz you out.
I'm buzzing you in and out.
The answer is touring extra three door.
Touring.
Touring.
Touring.
Touring.
So, it's a misconception people call it twin cam, extra three door, but not all of them
were twin cam, but it was touring extra three door.
Bonus question.
Where were the turbo four-wheel drive models built?
David.
David.
A bit in Japan.
Hiroshima.
That's correct for me.
I feel like I'm on a game show with there.
Question number four.
How many generations of the Holden Piazza were sold in Australia?
Ed.
I think two.
David.
David.
Juan.
Juan is correct.
That is correct.
They did have two different versions of it, but the second generation wasn't sold in
Australia.
Whatever.
Question number five is we're entering our music section.
The song Pink Cadillac was originally written by which artist?
David.
Was it Aretha Franklin?
Is not Aretha Franklin.
Ed.
Was it the point of sisters?
Incorrect.
Turbo.
No, I got no clue.
You buzzed out.
It is Bruce Springsteen.
Really?
Bruce Springsteen originally wrote it.
Bonus question.
Who did a very famous cover of this?
I'm assuming you guys aren't going to get it if you've got it all wrong so far.
Again, I would have said like the Supremes or something.
Incorrect.
All out.
Buzzy's out.
It is Natalie Cole.
She did a version of it.
Question number six.
It's not that famous because I ain't heard of it.
Neither is David and he knows a lot about me.
Riotin is a quintessential rap song in the 2000s and it's an anthem very famous worldwide.
You probably would have heard it.
It's become a bit of a meme song as of recent times by which artist?
It's a good song.
Ed.
Is it Snoop Dogg?
No.
Good guess though.
David and Mr. Turbo Terry before I buzz you both out.
Eminem is not correct.
That's incorrect.
Eminem.
Eminem.
Eminem.
I know this one too.
It's like something millionaire.
Slumdog.
Slumdog.
Who wants to be up?
I'll give you a point.
I'll give you a point five.
It's chameleon air.
It's chameleon air.
That's not bad.
Anthony.
I'll pay that.
I'll pay that.
You've gotten point five there.
Question number seven.
Who sang the song?
Little Deuce Coop.
Ed.
Ed.
She's my little Deuce Coop.
Beach Boys.
Beach Boys is correct.
Well done.
I don't know what I've done.
Very, very, very good.
There is no asking those questions because I was listening to a song recently called Maybelline
by Chuck Berry.
Yeah.
And it's, yeah.
Maybelline.
Yeah.
It's a good song.
So I was like, oh, that's actually, you know, it was, I was like, maybe I could do some
car related music questions.
Yeah, I love that.
All right.
Last three questions are Neil Brochure questions.
First one.
You can drive your blank all day at top speed through a desert if you have to.
The blank engine is cooled by air, not by water.
Since air doesn't boil, not in this world anyway.
Ed.
Ed.
Volkswagen Beetle.
Volkswagen Beetle is absolutely correct.
Well done.
Question two.
The power to transport you to another world.
Seamless progressive power readily available at the touch of the accelerator is what all
true enthusiasts drive in their pursuit of motoring, of the perfect motoring experience.
And that's exactly the kind of precise power produced by the outstanding 2.2 liter 16 valve
dual overhead cam engine of the blank, blank, blank.
Ed.
Mazda 626 turbine.
Oh, advanced engineering developed from blanks connection to F1 and Indy car.
The revolutionary variable valve timing and lift electronic control system allows the engine
to breathe with almost with utmost efficiency from idle to red line, ensuring a true sports
car performance and intelligently saving fuel constructed from weight saving aluminium
alloy.
The blank blank power plant delivers a staggering 147 kilowatts of power, making it the obvious
choice for a serious sports car buyer.
Oh, I know, know.
The engine in the blank model perfectly complements its blank sibling, achieving 118 kilowatts
of power and the efficiency of this 2.2 liter dual overhead cam engine.
David, you know this.
In both power output and fuel consumption.
The next bit, we'll give it away.
Product fuel injection allows David.
Okay.
Okay.
So it's a Honda.
It is a Honda.
It's the 2.2.
It's the prelude VTIR or, or is I in the, in the regular.
So.
Well done.
Well done.
Last one.
Question 10.
Sports performance.
The all new blank blank that is all new blank blank portrays an immediate sense of sportiness
and emotion.
The clear glass headlamps, high shoulder lines, short overhangs and anti-rear front and rear
and a silhouette reminiscent of a classic sports coupé.
Clearly emphasized the dynamics.
This is all just carwank dynamicism of the, of the all new stunning blank.
Ed.
On the CRX.
Incorrect.
The interior design concept in perfect harmony with the exterior offers increased comfort
luxury and style with the black, the new blank blank showcases a new range of advanced
engines.
The introduction of a new two liter FSI fuel standard as fuel stratified injection petrol
and a two litre TDI turbocharged direct injection diesel engine.
David.
Volkswagen Golf.
It is in the family.
I was going to say Anthony.
Anthony.
I was going to say Audi A3.
Audi A3 is correct.
Anthony.
Well done.
Very, very well done.
Golf dressed up for prom.
It is literally a golf.
It is quality.
Golf in a party dress.
Golf in a party dress.
That is the car to a car quiz for this, for the evening gentlemen.
Let's, let's do a score check.
Anthony on 2.5.
Well, Edward on two and tonight's winner on a grand total of six.
Prince.
He killed it.
Thank you very much.
No, we'll give you an applause.
Oh, thank you very much.
We, we do have a bit for the community David Prince and you are now leading again on the
winners list to get your grand total even higher.
But that is your car talk car quiz.
Interesting cars questions.
Anthony, you're running it for next week.
Don't forget.
I think that's a car.
I think there's a car.
I think that's a podcast gentlemen.
And a car.
And a car quiz.
I'll make sure that I do one part of it being that said topic, but it won't cover the whole
car quiz.
So I've at least got something I can fall back on to or better again, something that you
guys have to fall back on to in the event that I fail with my abilities.
That's it.
That sounds like a perfect plan, Anthony.
Anthony's both open soul.
Got an Everest for sale.
Yep.
Anybody's chasing an Everest 2019 Everest trend at 2.2.
Sorry, the two liter twin turbo.
Get us up.
Car will be listed on Castel at the end of the week.
Or if anybody's chasing it.
Yes.
Maybe, maybe.
Or if anybody's chasing an MS123 Toyota Crown with more parts than you can poke a stick
up.
Get us up.
It's currently just dropped in price down to 6250 with all the parts.
Otherwise, you can always haggle without.
There you go.
Turbo Terry is still not for sale.
Good.
That's what we like to hear, Anthony.
David's words of wisdom.
There's one for Ed tonight.
And we talked a lot about cars tonight.
I saw it pick out of the day and I thought of Ed and tonight's words of wisdom believe
you can and you're halfway there.
Oh, I like that.
That means I'd have $125,000 to spend if I'm not the case.
But believe, believe, believe.
Edward Bunzing, a bias whooping soul.
Well, there's only one car in stock currently being the 2011 Carolla District Nursing white
Order hatched on $187,000.
That's going to be somewhere around nine grand.
Ish I think and soon to be the one-to-one Metro manual when I pick that up. I'm not sure where that'll be
I'm thinking probably it's four and a half
What color is that it is quite in a shins model
So yeah, I'm thinking that'll be somewhere around that but you know, I haven't driven it
Haven't seen it so I need to give it a good looking over first
Talk prices too much on that
That's it. No other no other things for sale
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From used-car inspections to “covert Everest” police-car builds, the hosts keep circling the same question: what different people buy, and why. They compare specific listings like a 2020 Everest Trend with low kilometres, debate timing and maintenance items like a “wet belt,” and trade stories about fleet rotations, hail-damaged bargains, and parts-car logic. The conversation also turns to buyer stereotypes, branding confusion, and even engine-tech trivia—always tying choices back to personality, budget, and risk.
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