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I don't know if we've ever argued.

Did I piss you off over the weekend, or?

I'm still sour that I want the best man at your wedding.

Who was your best man, Dale?

TJ.

You don't need a cool vest for that race.

What are you thinking?

Get him, TJ.

That's how it always starts a show.

All right then.

Hey, everybody.

It's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr.

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TJ Majors is here.

I'm back.

We took a week off.

Hosts of R was the host of last week's show.

Thank you, Carson, for coming in here and just being a kickass host.

I think it'd be cool.

We're going to talk about, first, San Diego.

We're going to talk about Sonoma.

We're going to have a lot of fun.

We're going over brackets.

We have...

I have a whole list of things that I want to share with everybody.

But I've got a lot of stuff going on this year and there will be some other opportunities

for somebody else to come in here and host.

I wonder who fans would want to have.

I think that's a great question.

Fans, who would you want to host this show?

Carson, host of R, did it.

I would open the opportunity and encourage any driver to come in here, host the show,

and that driver, did they get to pick their co-host?

Yeah.

Didn't Carson?

Yeah.

TJ was away.

I think maybe if TJ's here.

If TJ wants to do it again, but TJ, you want to take a couple of shots off?

When?

You want to take a couple...

I like doing it when you're in there because I can talk shit about you.

Jesus.

All right.

Whatever.

All right.

Well, look, I think the person that's hosting...

Maybe they bring their spotter in there.

They bring their spotter, buddy, whatever.

Another driver.

Makes it a little more comfortable, more fun.

Could you imagine Jesse Love, Connor Zillich?

That'd be great.

Co-hosting the download.

Interesting.

That'd be cool.

So let's see what the fans say.

Let's see if we can get a couple...

We got a couple other opportunities this year where I'm going to be gone and we'll get us

a badass host in here.

I think it'd be fun every now and then, you know, throughout the year to sprinkle in some

current drivers.

Brad crushed it.

Now, host of ours, one of his next...

Yeah, Brad did do it.

Yeah.

Great job.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's get to the show.

We got a lot to talk about.

Where you want to start?

Yeah.

I don't know.

Where you all want to start?

We are...

We didn't...

We weren't here, so we had a great...

We can talk about...talk a little bit about San Diego, being on the aircraft carrier and

all that bulls***.

Everybody's kind of removed from that and moved on to the next one.

We've already had another race.

Yeah, it's weird already.

It is kind of weird.

Feels weird.

But I do want to say, man, I heard the rumor that we might be going back next year.

I think it might be a two-year deal instead of a three-year deal.

I'm just hearing some rumors.

But Harvick said on his podcast or his show that it's probably better left one and done.

You just...

I totally get what he's saying.

I guess they can't...I guess...

Maybe NASCAR would love to do it once, but maybe the reason why they have to do it twice

is to get the commitment from the other side.

Because it's a big lift.

It's a big lift for the Navy.

I'm sure there's some stuff going on with the city and everything there.

Maybe that side said, no, man, we can't just do this once.

So maybe there was a reason why it had to be two years.

But I totally get what Harvick's saying about...me and Steve were totally...we were agreeing

with this week.

We're like, man, going back, it'll be great.

But man, that first time is so special.

And it's kind of like when we went to Wilkesboro with the Leipzig Stock Cars in 22.

Man, you'll never recreate that feeling that we had there.

And this was a sort of similar, man.

You were just pinching yourself all the time.

You were up in that aircraft carrier just like, man, this is amazing.

You know, and you got to go up in that thing every day to do something with the practice

or whatever.

And man, it was just fun.

Race track turned out to be pretty solid.

The racing was great.

We designed that track, kudos.

Everything went really well.

I mean, weekend wise, like getting in, like it was a little challenging at times.

I guess Thursday was...

That's the other side.

And I think to Kevin Harvick's point, the other part of the conversation is there was

a lot of it didn't go good.

You know, there was a lot of folks that had to endure long lines, tons of walking on Friday.

I did like 15,000 steps.

I think Stephen Steffen, who's working for Junior Merch Sports and a few other people

out there did 25,000 steps on Friday.

So I mean, we were walking all over the place to get to where you needed to go and ran out

of food on Friday or Saturday.

There was a lot of things that didn't go well and you'll get that grace on the first go.

When everybody's excited to be there, they'll give up or therefore go or ignore or overlook,

let some slide.

You won't get that the second time.

You shouldn't.

So if they do go back and run it again, they got to make sure that the things that weren't

good or the things that they missed, red or whatever are cured, fixed, cleaned up.

I'm sure they will, right?

They'll try.

But yeah, I kind of agree with Kevin.

Like, man, if you could just take this thing, this cool little one off, neat race that we're

going to do every year and just take it all around the country, that would be pretty badass.

And maybe, you know, we get there one day, but I don't mind that we're going back.

I think it'll be fun, but it just, you know, that first one was so cool.

I'm being interesting to see if they kind of changed the racetrack.

I know SVG had a couple of comments where he's like, man, what a real big fan of the course.

For some reason, he didn't like a few things about it.

I thought it was fine, but I mean, I'm not driving.

I'm not racing it.

Maybe there's some things that can improve all the way around, even with the track itself.

They figured it out.

The drivers were figuring it out.

You know, they figured it out pretty quick.

It seemed like.

No, it was a lot of fun, man.

After when the race was over with, I went downstairs in the hotel and I saw Denny Hamlin

and Jimmy and Jimmy Johnson and a couple of different guys hanging out down there.

So it was kind of fun.

Like, you know, usually when the race is over, we all, everybody goes home, you know, San

Diego.

A lot of people stayed out there for the couple, at least a day or two and then drove or flew

to Sonoma.

And so that's our plan.

So it was kind of cool going to the hotel and hanging out and seeing, seeing folks, your

peers and man, we had a lot of fun.

We drank a little bit.

Got up in the morning and drove to Santa Barbara and then we went from Santa Barbara up to

Monterey.

We spent the night in Santa Barbara.

Then the next night we spent the night in Monterey.

Monterey's badass little town.

It sounds like it.

It was Santa Barbara's great.

We get to Santa Barbara and Monterey, both towns.

We get on our phone, found the closest bar and like a block and a half from the hotel

and we went to the me and Stefan and LaTarte, his family, Adam Alexander.

We went and we went and had drinks and stuff and just hung out.

And that was pretty cool to be able to kind of sit in these little dive bars.

You'd never have a beer in and drink.

In one of the bars in Monterey, we were sitting there and I noticed that they had this thing

on the back wall and it had all these little buildings on it.

And in the doorways of all the little buildings were these little miniature Jesuses.

Have you ever seen things?

Oh yeah.

I know.

Yeah.

I remember about, I don't know, six or eight beers.

I was like, man, you've got those little miniature Jesuses all up in the buildings there.

And he's like, oh man, there's there's a lot of them in here.

I was like, yeah, he's like, how many do you see?

I was like, well, I'll probably see about four up there.

He's like, there's a whole lot more in this room.

He's like, you got to take a look around.

And so all around the room, they had all these tiny little Jesuses hiding everywhere.

And I thought, that's hilarious.

And you know, six or eight beers, I'm like, you know, I'm going to Amazon.

I'm going to order me some tiny Jesuses.

So I brought them.

I just wondered what you brought in.

There's a box full of them.

Nice.

Look at that, man.

Are you just going to put them throughout junior motorsports?

I'm just going to hide them places.

There's already one in here.

Here, dude, I've already got them.

Oh, you don't want one.

I've already got one.

I've got a lot of them.

How could you say no to this little guy?

Oh, my God, I've got a lot of them.

I have one.

Yeah, you know, my mom gave me one of them.

Give you a handful.

My mom gave me one.

I'm just like, here, you need a good idea.

We could we could hide them in Mike's office.

Yes, you need to put a whole bunch of them in there.

So you keep them, you walk around and you just put them places when people aren't looking.

So Steven sitting next to me and he ordered a box too.

And he just tried to bring them in here and give them to me.

I'm like, no, that's your box, man.

I thought you had trading cards.

He was bringing in.

That's what he had.

That's what he that's hilarious.

That's your box of miniature Jesus's.

I lined up my spare bed in my house with those things.

Did you?

My mom gave me one.

So they've been around a while.

So yeah.

So I bought a box like you did.

I put them in her room whenever she comes in there.

All there's like a hundred of them in there.

Things are awesome.

They are.

Look at them.

You put them all over the place.

Race cars.

Yeah.

For the race.

For the race on Saturdays.

We could drive, walk up and give one each driver.

Yeah.

I have one in my backpack that somehow I got it.

Somebody gave it to me.

Yeah.

We drove up.

There's a name for this road.

What is it?

The PCH?

Yeah, there it is.

Why do they call it that?

Okay.

There you go.

All right.

See, I'm not familiar.

The PCH.

So we drove up that thing, man.

It was a bad ass.

And if you go on Google or go on your phone and take a look at that road or the pictures

of it, you'll, the pictures that you see, that's what it looks like.

It's bad ass.

The whole way up, just on the, on the edge of a mountain, probably hundreds, maybe thousands

of feet.

Yeah.

And then from the coast, but you can see, I mean, just the ocean, see it as far as you

can see.

And so that was a blast.

We stopped and ate at some little restaurant on the side of the road.

Man, it was just fun.

We were just normal for a few days, you know, no responsibilities and no job, no, no work,

no, no podcasting, none of that.

We just kind of got to goof off.

So I had a lot of fun.

Then we got to Sonoma and Sonoma was great.

There's a lot of great places in the area to stay at.

So we, we landed in Sonoma and my wife and kids came up or out to Sonoma.

So they were there the whole weekend.

And we had a pretty solid weekend in the, in the O'Reilly race SVG one with junior motorsports.

Lila got to drive, got to ride in the car after the win.

So that was pretty cool.

And she seemed to, to really enjoy that.

And so did SVG seemed to appreciate being able to do that.

That was a pretty cool deal.

Got to sprayed champagne and victory lane.

Yeah.

That'd be fun.

Yeah.

She probably didn't saw the, Nicole liked it before.

So she's probably more likely to do it this time.

She was a, she made, she changed her mind about three or four times before she got in

the car.

She was like, I don't want to do it.

I'll do it.

I don't want to do it.

I don't know what to deal with.

I'm glad she did it.

I'll, Nicole was standing there like, if she ain't doing it, I'm doing it.

Ready to go.

She's like, is she doing it?

Cause I'm doing it.

If she ain't doing it, I'm not missing this opportunity.

She was dying to get back in the car.

She loves it.

She's getting the bug.

Big time.

She liked it afterwards, Ila.

Yeah, she did.

She said she'd do it again.

Yeah.

So now, you know, we're going to Chicago land and we've got our guys driving our cars along

with chase Elliott and 88.

So got another shot at it.

Chicago land ought to be pretty badass.

I'm excited.

It'll be fun to go back.

Yeah.

I think so.

I heard ticket sales aren't going, aren't going, going well.

That's what I've seen.

I don't know.

I've heard that too.

Yeah.

I've heard that in Chicago, uh, street courses coming back.

So I don't know that that, I don't know if Chicago, Chicago land stays.

I'm nervous.

Yeah, you're not going to get both.

I don't think so, buddy.

Yeah, I think both of them will be hard, but we haven't even gotten it back yet.

What the reason is for ticket sales, we already lost it.

I, you know, that's probably why we stopped going.

Everybody, I mean, you can look at the races and go, man, that's awesome.

Why did we stop going there?

But man, if it don't sell tickets, if the land's more valuable, use as anything else.

Yeah, it makes sense.

But even if the racing is good, if people don't want to watch it, if the tickets aren't

selling, I mean, if it's selling out, it never left.

Yeah.

Um, so that's probably if it doesn't stay on the calendar.

Um, that's why.

And that's, that's, uh, that's, that's tough because it's a, what should we expect?

It's a badass race track.

They'll be racing from the apron to the wall and, um, it's got some really nasty bumps and

difficult things that are going to be really hard for the next gen car challenging for

the next gen car.

So I'm sure we'll see some accidents or some guys busting their ass, especially if there's

a tunnel bump in three and four, that's pretty bad.

Yeah.

I think that's gonna be interesting how the track, how the grooves move and when they

move.

Yeah.

I think it'll be pretty, pretty badass.

I'm looking forward to it.

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We didn't have a lot of sales service but when we did, I bought this badass shirt.

I had a couple margaritas at no booze in Malibu and you walked out with that feeling

pretty good online on the internet.

Sorry.

Come on.

Yeah.

No booze.

So what?

Biscuit t-shirts.

I didn't know if there was a store next to it or something.

You walked out like I'm going in.

There's nothing there by a steak dinner.

Get a free lip biscuit t-shirt.

Most of the houses around no boo burnt down.

Yeah.

Um, we bought a bunch of cars.

I told you about that.

So listen, I get the Sonoma.

Amy doesn't like the card hobby.

Right.

Um, she, you know, of course I've everything I get involved in.

I'm overboard.

I overdo it.

Cards everywhere.

She's like, man, the house is sinking.

I'm like, what's your time out?

She's like, all the cards in here.

The house is sinking.

I'm like, okay.

So we don't really have a foundational issue because I'll get the foundation guy out here.

But, um, so she, we get the Sonoma and she comes in.

What happened over the course of the weekend in San Diego?

You won't, you won't know about this.

What happened for us?

TJ, what happened for our kind over the course of the weekend in San Diego?

In San Diego?

No, what happened for us?

It was a holiday that came.

Very special for us.

Oh, Father's Day.

That's right, buddy.

Yeah.

Father's Day.

It's a grand day.

It's a good, good day for all the fathers out there to be dads.

And we just get to do whatever the hell we want.

And so for one day, right?

And so we weren't together with our families.

When Amy gets there, she's got Father's Day gifts.

She gives me cards.

Whoa.

Wow.

Yeah.

Wow.

Big deal.

And good ones.

She got me some Topps, Cron, Platinum, Baseball.

They're nice stuff.

That is an awesome set.

Yeah.

So I was pretty pumped about that.

Yeah, that's pretty good.

Um, I got some good cards.

She gave, and so she gave me a box of those.

I had already bought a box in San Diego.

All right.

So now I got cards and then more cards.

And so I'm sitting there opening up the box she gave me and also opening up the cards

that I got, trying not to let on that.

You had some.

I had lots more cards.

And she's like, man, you still, you still opening them cards?

I'm like, oh yeah, still open them.

But eventually I had to tell her, I'm like, yeah, I stopped at a store in San Diego.

You know, we had a little time.

Um, but man, I was really, I was really taken aback.

She bought me, not only did she buy me like a box of cards to open, but she also bought

me a slab or two.

She got me a 1985 Jose Conceco or 86 Jose Conceco.

Pretty solid.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's nicer.

Yeah.

I mean, the cars do pretty good, even considering all the dumb shit he did.

The fans love him though.

They do.

That's the thing.

I don't want his cards.

I don't understand that.

I thought that he had, you know, he dates Madonna.

He does.

He gets, he's kind of guy.

He had some, you know, controversy, I suppose.

He's out there.

Yeah.

Toward the industry.

But yeah, the fans do love him.

Yeah.

The fans love a lot of it.

It's the media that doesn't like them, but that doesn't control the market.

Yeah.

I know.

The fans do well.

So that was cool.

We're going to talk about our brackets.

Did you feel one out?

Yeah, we filled one out it.

Well, I did the one out there at the show.

I got mine here.

I got like 110 points.

What'd you get?

I have no idea.

Awesome.

Travis, how did you do?

I didn't do one.

Man, this is turning out to be a great segment.

Well, you didn't do a bracket.

Denny Bros. don't do brackets.

I'm not.

He came up with this.

I know, but if they're not going to put his name on it, then put his name on it.

Yeah, it should be the Denny Hamlin bracket challenge.

Oh, season.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, so we're, we're boycotting.

Yeah.

Year two, we're boycotting.

Yeah.

We didn't boycott year one.

Yeah, boycott a last year too.

Did you?

Yeah.

No brackets for me.

Because if they put his name on it, are you doing it?

Oh, my God.

We're focused on the regular season.

You're petty as a damn straight.

I am.

You gave me a hard time for blocking TJ on my phone.

You said I was a little.

I think that's a little.

Wait, what you're doing is pretty.

You all do a bracket because Denny's name's not on it.

You blocked TJ over a video game.

Yeah.

You won't do a bracket because Denny's name's not on it.

We needed a break.

Mine is not the same.

I didn't fill out an NCAA bracket last year either.

Well, you just, but it's the fact that you say you won't do it because

I'm joking.

No, you're not.

You're not joking.

It's like Denny's name was on that.

You'd be doing it.

You didn't fill out a NCAA bracket.

No.

What the hell?

Denny's name's on it.

You bet on the games and stuff.

Yeah.

Betting.

I'll bet on it so that I'm not going to do a bracket.

Well, all right.

Look, we're going to, we'll have this conversation.

I mean, I can talk about the matchups.

No, you can't.

You're not allowed.

I feel like I did pretty well.

A couple of upsets, but.

I gotta find how to get to mine.

This is the most confusing.

You know, the thing about the bracket on NASCAR's app is how did you print this?

I forget because Trent, the printable bracket on their website is not printable.

It isn't.

It puts it into like eight pages.

That's right.

Get your together.

Yeah, I want this.

That's why I didn't fill out a bracket.

There you go.

That'd be a reason.

Um, I got my bracket in here.

Oh, here it is.

Yeah.

I went to try to like print my bracket or screenshot it or, you know, anything, right?

I wanted to screenshot it in full to tweet it out.

Yeah.

Can't do it.

Now you can look at it in blocks or chunks.

Yeah.

Cause I saw you screenshot it your winner.

Yeah.

Cause you're a Denny bro for the next four weeks.

I pulled for Denny and he got the job done against, um.

Ty Dillon.

And it was touch and go there for a while.

Ty had this engine issue, misfire and bulls*** going on.

They got it fixed.

They got it running again.

Denny's doing really well.

Denny gets spun out and then, uh, splitter and luckily though over the course of the

long run, his car handled well enough.

What?

No, it's, I think Ty started having some more trouble.

Ty had issues is really what it came down to.

Yeah.

But I mean, Denny was beating him the entire race until the split.

I mean, early too, just like terrible day for Tyler.

Yeah.

Like, so no, we're talking about Ty.

Oh, yeah.

So, um, I had Tyler Redick over Bowman.

Bowman upsets there for me.

So that **** up my bracket a little bit.

Bowman.

Good job.

I don't, I don't, there can't be that many people that had Bowman.

I had Redick.

Let's not, let's not **** on Bowman.

I mean, he's pretty solid road course racer.

Yeah.

But I mean, who picked him though?

I know.

Probably not many.

Um, the next person that I didn't have following, uh, going through was, so I got Redick going

all the way to Atlanta.

So that's going to hurt me a little bit, but I got a host of our beating Redick in Atlanta.

Oh, yeah.

Um, the other person that in the first round that screwed me over was Suarez.

I know.

I had Suarez over Gillan.

I did too.

And Gillan, boy, what a day he had.

He did.

He got some **** boxing matches out there.

Wow.

He got, he got, I loved it.

He was throwing them too.

Someone, how about it?

He, he, Bubba runs into him.

He **** you know, Bubba just got loose down in 11 and cleaned him out.

Just a mistake on Bubba's part.

And but it's a bad deal.

You're pissed off.

You go back to the next corner and you send Bubba into the dirt.

Fine.

Bubba recovers, but then the next corner he goes down and knocks Raleigh Hurst out of

the racetrack.

He was done.

I was like, we were laughing our ass off in the booth.

That was **** hilarious.

I was waiting on something to pop off, you know, in the race and there it started.

Todd heard you.

And then later in the race, Herp spun Todd out down in 11.

So yeah, that **** doesn't end until the, you know, once you're, once you and a guy

are kind of going at it, it's **** gloves are off at that racetrack.

Cause it's, it's a, you know, when you're running mid pack and you're just struggling

all day, it's not a fun.

Something about Sonoma.

It's not a fun track.

Something about Sonoma makes it where guys can get back to you.

Only the top, you know what I mean?

Only the top five guys are having fun.

The rest of us, the rest of you aren't.

Yeah. When you're in the soup, it's not, it's, but Sonoma, like if you get, I feel

like Sonoma, if somebody roughs you up, you can get back to them somehow.

I **** up here on Brisco versus Almond Dinger.

I picked Almond Dinger.

I **** that up so bad cause Brisco was great last year and I picked him to be one to watch.

I picked him to kind of be a guy that could challenge for the win and my bracket.

I didn't pick him.

I don't know what the hell I was thinking there.

This next matchup, those are gonna be great one.

Hemvors Gibbs.

Yeah.

I have Ty Gibbs moving through, honestly, going into Chicago.

I have Gibbs versus Elliott at Atlanta.

I got everything else right there on that side of the bracket.

On the right side of the bracket, it was very chalky.

I had two.

This is tough side over here.

I had two **** ups.

Um, Eric Jones over the Gano.

I had Lugano going through.

Joey just can't get anything going right now.

Jones is fast right now too.

And then I didn't think C bill would beat Chastain.

I don't know what I was thinking there either.

What a performance he had on Sunday with that wrist neck.

I mean, really fast.

It was impressive.

He wasn't getting out.

Yeah.

It was impressive.

Um, so there's my bracket.

I've got 110 points.

I've got remaining 620.

I think that's pretty decent.

So my bracket's still alive.

I got Denny going all the way to win the million bucks.

Don't let us down.

Denny.

Um, I've got Denny versus Josefar.

I feel like the bracket is something Josefar, even though he steps up.

He stepped.

So have you noticed like the last two weeks he, he's popped off and gotten, you know,

qualified really well.

Um, and it seems like the more it gets talked and the more sort of barbs, you know, trading

of, you know, comments on social media with other drivers and whatnot, the more he's meddling

in all these little disputes and whatever you want to call them, the more he gets up

for qualifying and race weekends.

Yeah.

He thrives in chaos.

I think he thrives.

He does.

I think he, I think he thrives there or he's something about him gives him an edge when

he's bored.

You better be, you kind of better be worried if you're spire, right?

Um,

You think about like, he's not married, doesn't have kids.

So he's not like, he doesn't have these responsibilities that all these other drivers

have.

I think he looks at this bracket and he's like, Hey, this is cool.

I'm gonna try to, he's just gonna, you know, he's going to be like, I'm going to make sure

I'm going to beat the guy I'm supposed to be there week.

This bracket,

He'll find a way to, he'll find a way to almost do it or do it.

The way it's lining up is it's like he could do it.

Yeah.

Like it's lining up really good for him here.

Yeah.

I think it could, it could happen.

Um, but I think Danny takes it.

That'd be cool.

Danny versus host of our in the final, maybe they'll name it after him.

Sure.

If Danny wins it, maybe they'll name it.

Maybe they'll name it.

I look, I'm, I agree to, to Travis's point.

The idea of the bracket was absolutely 100,000% Denny Hamlin's.

Yeah.

Denny came up with this.

We helped him implement it here at dirty Mo media and then NASCAR took it, turned it

into something real.

Cause when we did it with Denny, there was no money involved.

Yeah.

It was something to side.

Yeah.

Um, but NASCAR is like, Hey, this is a cool idea.

We'll put a million dollars toward it.

We had coincidentally the two new partners coming in with TNT and Amazon.

And so it was like, well, NASCAR needs to give.

So if you've got a TNT or an Amazon coming in or any new partner, they want a big shiny

thing to sell.

Right.

And so it might be San Diego Street course, right?

Or it might be Chicago Street course or whatever.

Right.

And if NASCAR can convince the new partner that, man, this is a cool thing.

The fans are going to love it.

We're going to give you this.

We're going to put this in your five race block.

They're, they're more than likely to write a big check.

So this was one of the shiny things that NASCAR brought into, uh, the series into the sport

when they were bringing in these two new partners.

And so NASCAR took it.

It's definitely Denny's idea.

There should be some recognition.

Yeah.

And I'm glad that they tweaked last year.

They tweaked it and the seatings was all messed up.

They went back to what our idea was and it makes it better and easier for fans to digest.

They wanted to also have those races for Amazon.

They wanted that.

There was a little shiny thing for Amazon, right?

During their five races last year and it just didn't work.

It was forced.

Um, and it, yeah, didn't make sense.

It was hard to follow.

This is super simple.

Amazon didn't really care about talking about how their races developed the seating.

It wasn't fun for us as broadcasters to try to force it into the show because it wouldn't

really, it didn't matter.

Um, and we, we talk about it at TNT and we're like, Hey, first round, we're going to tell

everybody about it.

We're going to try to tell everybody to fill out a bracket.

We're going to, we're going to talk about it on the front end of the show and say, everybody,

come on, let's all do this together.

Because you don't want to be that guy that gets around in, didn't fill out a bracket like

Travis and everybody's talking about it.

And you're like, man, that is kind of fun.

I wish I would have done it.

You know, that happens with the college basketball bracket all the time.

I forget or something.

It does.

Yeah.

You know, you get around in and you're like, I should have done it.

I wish I would have done it.

Yeah, you're mad if you don't get in.

You're mad.

Yeah.

So we, we talk about it on the front.

We won't, we won't talk a ton of bracket.

Once you know, once the race starts, we really didn't go bracket heavy and we didn't really

cover it a ton after the race and we might, you know, each week it kind of will ramp up.

Right.

Well, you guys did it perfectly.

It was like when Denny fell back after the wreck, it's like, okay, here's an update on

the bracket or like, Redick is like, so when it presents itself, but you're not forcing

it.

No, as we go though, it'll be more important to talk about obviously with the final race

between just two drivers will cover it pretty good.

The matchups were good.

Yeah.

I thought so anyway.

We had a pretty solid race in Sandy in Sonoma.

I was entertained.

Could it have been more exciting as far as the product on the racetrack?

Absolutely.

I was happy with it, especially with the Gillian stuff going on.

Do you think coming from San Diego though, because we kind of get spoiled at street

courses like that because those are really challenging and I don't know that it, I think

that there's a target on, I think there's like a, everybody's watching the road courses

going, all right, man, is we making this better?

Because road courses have sucked for a while.

And so I think everybody's kind of skeptical going into the Sonomas and the Watkins Glen's.

I am at least, I'm skeptical going into them, going, hmm, we're going to get bored race.

But I thought the race was entertaining.

There was a bunch of goofball going on in the middle of the pack that was hilarious.

And then we had a really badass race to the end SVG's car, SVG running out of race car,

running out of tire was real.

The 19 being faster, running him down.

That was a real thing.

There's people, I mean, I'm seeing on my social media.

We're driving to the airport after the race, after we get done with post racing, they're

going, man, y'all hype that up.

It wasn't that big of a deal.

Y'all make that, you know, y'all hype it up and there's nothing really going on.

I'm like, nah, he was really catching him.

SVG really was out of race car.

He even says so at, you know, he gets out of the car and Brisco believes it too.

Cause he's like an all my replies on social media.

If he doesn't miss that one turn, he gets there.

And he's absolutely going to put the bumper to him in turn 11.

Now he's not going to, I don't think he spins him out, but I think he knocks him up track

a little bit or at least makes a, you know, makes a shot happen.

You know, gives him an opportunity to race side by side off the corner.

But I was, I was in the booth and man, that was a lot of fun watching those last three

or four laps trying to see him.

You know, we had to, we had to watch him.

So Sonoma's about two corners, seven and 11.

That's your passing zones.

Sometimes you might see some guys cross over 33 B and pass down into four, but

it's just rare.

It's messy.

Yep.

So seven and 11 is your passing zones.

And so if you're wanting to pass the car and you, if you're watching two cars, go around

the track and the faster one is behind and you know he's going to pass him, you're, you

got to watch him set that pass up and try to run the course well enough to be in position

for those two places to pass.

Right.

So you're waiting.

There's this anticipation building.

And that's what you're doing with them with the, with the end of the race there.

Briscoe, every time, you know, they're running the lap, you're sitting there thinking,

all right, Briscoe, come on, hang in there.

I'm, I mean, I'm, I'm pulling for a finish.

Right.

I'm not pulling a good race.

I'm not pulling for Briscoe, but I'm pulling for something.

Right.

And I'm like, hmm, is it going to, is it, you know, when they go through the S's, right?

SVG is super good there.

Can Briscoe stay close enough?

You know, to be able to charge into 11 and have something happen, you know, same thing

on the other side of the track, up the hill through 1234 can he stay

close enough to have something happen in, in seven?

Cause where Briscoe was good was the braking zones of seven and 11 SVG was just a little

better everywhere else.

And so SVG would like gain a half a car length back and then Briscoe would get a car

length in the next breaking zone.

Right.

So it was like, it was like.

One step forward to, or two steps forward, one step back, two steps forward, one step

back, lap after lap after lap.

It was amazing because Briscoe had to be perfect.

He wasn't, he made that mistake into one.

That was the difference.

And he said so after the race.

Man, if I hadn't, I would have probably had a shot.

Um, I was so entertained.

Really, really solid race.

That's a solid run for Briscoe.

I, well, he did the same thing last year at Sonoma.

It was a solid run.

TJ, uh, pretty interesting to see Ty Gibbs and Christopher Bell do what they did on strategy.

That's the fun part.

I think about road course racing.

I used to hate this.

I used to, I mean, you know, I'm, I'm not saying I'm a, I'm, I'm a full believer in

stages and all of that.

But, um, for a road course race, stages are much more entertaining than not.

The race begins and the entire debate in our TV compound was what will SVG do?

SVG has f***ed up San San Diego, right?

Not on his, not in his doing, but he's came out of there with no points.

It was supposed to be a big point stay for him.

So he's going to go into Sonoma and how greedy will he get?

Um, is he going to try to win sweep the stages and the race?

Could he do it?

Could he possibly do it?

And he's starting six.

I don't think he gives him a shot to do it.

If he qualifies on the pole and can sprint out to a big lead, it controls it.

Yep.

But he could, but starting six, he wasn't able to drive through the field, uh,

quickly enough to really make that happen.

But he still was able to score points in the stages, you know, once he cycled

through pit stops and so forth, he ends up seventh in both stages.

So that, that to me was interesting to wait and see what happened there.

What I didn't anticipate was Ty Gibbs staying out and winning both stages.

Cause you, you know, you make it almost impossible to win the race.

If you don't flip a stage at some point, you're, you're burying yourself.

You can't win.

Yeah.

Especially if you're racing at someone like Shane.

Yeah.

So I know that Ty Gibbs was really, uh, disappointed at the strategy at the end

of the day.

He sat there and said, you know, we had a fast enough car thing to win the race.

And he, he would have loved to have wanted, uh, and I get that.

Um, and he may have been right about the speed they had.

Yeah.

They may, he might, he might have been able to beat.

I love his confidence, but from a team aspect, very rarely does someone go toe

to toe with Shane and get him.

So go get your points.

Look, he, he, he was sitting right on top of Larson and Elliot in points coming

into this race.

Uh, he leaves Sonoma about 18 points clear of Larson now in fourth place.

Ty Gibbs fourth place, fourth place.

That's awesome.

So that is good.

It is.

He has 28 points to Blaney.

Blaney is Blaney's beatable.

He's, I'm sorry, 26.

Blaney is beatable.

I was looking at my table there.

Blaney is a badass race car driver.

I love this dude is, is, is a, is a real man.

Yeah.

But I think Ty Gibbs can Ty Gibbs catch Blaney.

That's kind of one thing I'm going to be paying attention to.

Boy, if you can put yourself in the top three, every spot that you gain for the

chase is massive.

Your, your odds of winning the championship go up by chunks with each spot you

gain.

And so Ty Gibbs will want to try to pass Blaney.

There's room to do that in the next several weeks.

I think Blaney has even said, Hey, I'm not even looking at the two guys in

front of me.

I'm just trying to keep third.

And that's a real thing for Ryan Blaney.

So I'll be paying a lot of attention to that.

Christopher Bell was able to, uh, you know, do basically, uh, the same thing for,

um, for stage points.

I think he finished second in stage two, ended up having a really good result.

Got a bunch of points when it was all said and done 50 total of the day on the

day, and he needed that as well.

He's back in 10th right now.

I think he jumped a couple of spots.

Uh, he improved two positions.

I believe, uh, from 12th to 10th.

And he is 12 backs from Suarez.

And Suarez is 25 back to host of R who is nine back to butcher.

And so all of, if I'm Christopher Bell, I'm like, I'm running them down.

It's going to be entertaining.

The next several weeks for Christopher Bell to have a real shot at trying to race

for the championship is to, is to go out there and try to, try to take seventh

beyond that fringe.

We talk about it all the time and I'm sorry you have to hear it over and over.

But the likelihood of the champion, the champion driver for this year coming

out of the top six in the chase is 85%.

So if you're Christopher Bell, I don't think you can get Chase or Kyle Larson.

I don't think you can get yourself into the top six, but you can be seventh.

You know, and you can be that guy that can sit there and maybe upset that 85%.

So he's going to have to, he'll have to hustle.

He's going to, all right.

That's what this point system is built for.

Yeah.

Those is that.

So Ty Gibbs, uh, trying to catch Blaney, um, or even Larson or Chase Elliott trying

to flip that as well and trying to get up in there.

That top six is going to churn a little bit.

Uh, but outside of, I think Briscoe or a busher is in seventh right now.

He's 36 behind Chase.

I don't know if he can get up there and take a spot.

So I think the top six are going to battle and then busher back through, you know,

I don't know, 12th is a battle.

Uh, and then you got a lot of guys right there on the cut line.

SVG is going to be a lot of fun.

He's sitting in 14th in the points.

Can he, can he keep that?

Uh, can he, can he just make the chase?

Right?

That's the, that's the big debate.

Um, when after San Diego, his probability on the predictor to make the chase went

from 67% to 20.

Um, after Sonoma will ask, uh, Russell, if we think that's, that's improved.

Ryan priest is 15th.

Man, it's hard to say whether he can do it.

Austin Cinderick sitting right on top of the cut line at 16th.

Eric Jones, Brack is Alaska, AJ, Almond Dinger, Legano.

I, do you think SVG can make it?

I, who, who, let's, let's try to identify a threat.

Eric Jones, Eric Jones.

Okay.

Well, legacy put a hell of a run together over the last several weeks.

Then we got to the road courses.

If the road course, you know, San Diego, Sonoma combo, didn't upset their momentum.

There's a threat there.

Eric Jones can go up there and take a spot from SVG.

Um, who else outside of that?

I don't know if Brad can do it too inconsistent.

Yeah, we've been inconsistent.

Um, AJ, I just don't think he can do it.

I think the resources that Chevrolet has and the, the, they've, they,

typically have no resources.

They have, yeah, they can, they have some, but very little.

The fact that he's out driving Joey, Legano right now.

I agree.

Amazing.

Yeah.

AJ has talked about the lack of Sim time, the lack of resources they have since

they're a dodge team, Chevrolet's taken back or pulled back some, if not all of the,

of the support.

And so, um, that's going to be difficult.

And I think it'll get tougher if Chevrolet wanted to make it tougher.

Do you think Ross could go on a run?

If Chevy's trying to, if they're starting to figure out things.

Back in 22nd.

I don't know.

I think, you know, I know it's tight.

You look at it, um, between all these guys, it's like 1.5 points, 13 points all

the way up to Austin Cendrick.

I mean, there's not a lot of points between 16th and Ross.

You know, most of the, in this whole group here is a lot of inconsistency though.

You know what I mean?

Like you could,

it's almost a 40 points or so to Ross out of that's a lot, man.

I don't think he can make it.

I don't think he can do it.

Shane's got a couple guys.

I think, you know, Eric Jones would be a threat, but I don't, you know,

I've got a, still has to, Indy's going to be a big one.

Yeah.

We'll see.

I mean, SCG's gotten a little better on the, on the ovals and that might be just

enough to get it done.

Like if you go back though, like after, after what?

The third or fourth race of the season, we got away from Cota, like kind of

faded pretty hard.

He did, but he ran great at Charlotte.

He ran great at Nashville.

Remember him getting it up there and duking it out with the leaders at Nashville?

Yeah.

Man.

Yeah.

I mean, I, I just don't know what to expect.

I don't either.

And that's great.

Yeah.

That's okay.

Yeah, it is good.

It's fun to talk about.

Couple of things from this past weekend that surprised me, the 45 steering issues.

Just surprised of, you know, I know those things are going to happen, but that's

the one thing that worries me with Tyler Redick is the gremlins, the brake issues,

the possible, you know, rack and pin or, you know, steering issue.

That's the one thing that kind of concerns me.

I don't, you don't really see that as much out of Gibbs.

There's a little more reliability, I suppose.

I know that Denny's faster right now, just a little bit faster than than Ty.

Still, still looking at both of those guys is probably the championship favorites.

Denny more so than Tyler.

But this weekend that I just, you ever, you ever watched your race and felt like

you were seeing like an omen of the future, you know?

And so that's kind of that.

That was like, man, you know, this feels if the chase, if I, we, if we

fail into the middle of the chase, you know, I feel like this is what we're going

to witness is like not something in time, something out of ties control.

Tyler Redick, um,

Which happens to everybody at some point.

Yeah.

He just started the year so good.

It was like, when this happens, it's going to stand out.

Yeah.

Sores, man, it surprised me how, how tough their day was.

I know they had a tire issue early, but it never really seemed to be, you know,

once they changed tires and got going, it didn't seem, I thought he'd run better.

Yeah.

Me too.

And he needed it because he's sitting there ninth in points right now.

And now he's a dog.

He's going to run hard and he's going to get, finish better than he

should in a lot of races because of his, his stubbornness, which is a compliment.

Um, but he's a driver that I've, I've got my own.

I think the overachieved him and host of our both overachieved to this point in

season, sitting in eighth and ninth in points.

And there's some real, real fast race cars right behind them in points like

Christopher Bell, Chase Briscoe, William Byron, some guys that I feel like are

should start to heat up.

Um, so that'll be interesting to see if they can maintain their positions into

top 10 in points, going into the chase.

Got a shout out Connor Zillich.

First top 10 of the season.

Connor runs second on Saturday in the junior Mercer sports car and ended up

with a solid result.

Yeah, he needed it.

Yeah.

Pretty good deal.

Uh, he's, it's wild man.

How, you know, how kind of, uh, tough this sport can be on in how, how it can,

you know, beat you up and beat your confidence up.

And you're, you just got to, you know, you sit there and watch Corey

Hyme go out there and win and man, you know, went on a race track that you think

you should be able to compete at and you get taken out of the race in a, in a

gigantic wreck.

Uh, that was super fascinating.

Um, so I don't know, I'd go to see him get a good run.

Hopefully he can start to build on some of that.

Maybe the corner, you know, he's turning the corner a little bit.

It's those kinds of weekends where you can, you can use some kind of

start to put together, put together some things.

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So that was on doorbubber clear.

Chris Rice was here and said, um, he said that they have died is not

committed to racing on Sundays yet for 20 27.

Yeah.

For 20 27.

Um, I feel like that, uh, what if there's, you know, if there's, what is

the likelihood and percentage of Dodge racing next year?

And cup.

I think it's really high.

I'm leaning more towards happening than not happening.

Yeah.

But well, um, per Jordan, Brian, Bianchi, uh, challenges remain for Dodge to

be ready for 20 27.

They've made progress in key areas.

Um, their body has already undergone initial wind tunnel testing.

Um, they have had a breakthrough in recent weeks and how it would produce

engines.

I think that's the biggest holdup.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Yep.

Um, their expected return to cup will not trigger NASCAR to increase the

number of charters available from 36 to 40.

The teams that have charters are guaranteed specific revenue streams along

with the starting spot guaranteed in the, in, in the, um, in the field.

Increasing charters would ensure the new manufacturer presents in every race,

including the Daytona 500 without taking any away from others.

What is it?

I don't get that.

They're saying like add charters, so they're locked in.

Well, I mean, if they're already on a car that has charters, they don't

need charters.

Yeah.

If they're with colleague, they don't need charters, but doesn't seem like

they're going to add.

So just be colleague moving.

Yeah.

So the, I mean, the, I think thought process behind that is, is, um, I know

they made some, uh, concessions for them in the truck race,

right?

Early in the season to be able to make sure they didn't get, you know,

misqualifying and not get to run.

Um, I don't believe.

So this is what I think happens.

I think that Dodge gets their car ready.

I think colleague goes into Daytona next year with Dodges.

I think they will be probably the only Dodges.

Maybe another team flips over.

I don't know, but, you know, I don't know who it might, who would it, who it

might would be.

Um, it would probably be a similar team like, like colleague.

It's not going to be one of the bigger teams.

Uh, but I don't, yeah, I don't think that they grow the charters.

I don't think that they introduce new charters to a, to a brand new team.

It's the reason why it's because, um, as it says in this, uh, article from Jordan,

the teams are, uh, guaranteed a certain amount of revenue.

And if you add charters, you dilute the revenue.

And so by quite a bit for each team, they would sacrifice hundreds of thousands,

if not a couple of million dollars per year, if you introduced four new charters

to the system and the, um, the new, or the current owners probably wouldn't

agree to that.

And, uh, and that's, that's, no, I'm not really that surprised by that.

So, and that's probably a good thing.

I think that you want to have some open spots, right?

Yeah.

Should the open car model actually become viable at some point, right?

You want to still have that door open.

If you, it should be, right?

If you go to 40 charters, you literally locked the door to the outside world.

And you're dependent on the current owners of those teams to, to, to, to field

cars for the series.

And I don't love that.

I, you know, I've been vocal about the charter system.

It's, you know, I, um, I like the system in, in the O'Reilly series where you can

build a car, show up and race.

You can still technically do that on the cup side, although the way the payouts

work and everything, it's like you're guaranteed to lose money.

They've almost built it into a model that would, uh, persuade you to not race

an open car.

Um, and so they don't want people coming in and starting parking and just grabbing

money out of the back of the field, right?

So they don't pay very well for the open cars.

And I get it.

I understand it.

30s, they're thinking in their mind as if you're an owner of a charter, 36 is plenty.

We got plenty of car.

36 is a good field, right?

I think Dodge comes back.

I think they're ready next year.

I think they race in the day, tone of 500.

Um, I know they're just, I mean, this is the thing.

Chris Wright, they're going to have an announcement.

It'll be a big announcement.

They'll have celebrities.

Chris Rice isn't going to come on doorbump clear and tell you, yeah, we're

good, we're good.

Dodge is ready.

That's not happening as much as I'd love it to.

It's not going to happen on doorbump clear.

No.

Is, is this news ready to go out?

Yeah, it's already out.

When did it go out?

About 35 minutes ago.

Really?

Well, all right.

We got a little late model stock news here for you, the cars tour.

We just had a big meeting with the cars, tour owners, team owners.

Yesterday in charters.

We're doing a charge.

I'm just kidding.

There's a lot to talk about with the cars tour.

We just had a meeting yesterday with all the owners.

We did that in the off season.

I thought it was great.

We had some great conversations around some protocols and things.

We're always trying to improve.

Um, but this past weekend.

We raced at South Boston, uh, the triple crown, uh, of late model stock

racing is going on, uh, triple crown at South Boston, Langley, and then

Martinsville.

Yep.

We have, uh, Caden quapole racing in the triple crown along with Lee

Pulliam, Lee Strug, uh, Lee wrecked out, got wrecked out at Sobo, got, uh,

crashed it.

So these other fellas started and, um, Caden finished sixth, I believe, after

running pretty well throughout the day.

So pretty solid, uh, Lee will, will retool for Lee and go to Langley.

We're going to run Lee and Caden in all three races.

So that's pretty, pretty cool.

The driver that will be driving for junior motorsports in the cars tour

race at Wilkesboro was at the shop today, getting his seat dialed in.

That is chase Elliott, the one and only.

He will be racing our second junior motorsports late model stock in the

cars tour race at Wilkesboro.

I think there's a few other cool names that'll be in that race as well.

So you'll want to tune in.

I think I'm going to be on the broadcast for flow.

Oh, let's go.

Yes, sir.

So I'm going to be up in the booth, helping call the race a little bit with

the team, just giving a little here and there.

Nothing too crazy.

I'm not going to be leading it, leading the booth, but, uh, I'll be up there

having some fun.

Um, hopefully we have a great race.

Hopefully it's pretty exciting and folks to get better beyond it.

Kip Danny.

Danny's a race control.

Does a great job.

Um, that race is July the 17th.

So marker calendars.

That's Wilkesboro weekend.

Um, on Friday, July the 17th, we'll be out there practicing and qualifying on

the eight on the 16th, the day before, and then show up and race that evening.

Hopefully the weather's good.

It's a hell of a weekend to come out to see some race.

Oh man.

Yeah, it's going to be good.

First points race for, for, uh, Wilkesboro in 30, 40 years, 96 on the cup side.

Yep.

Yeah.

96 was the last one.

So pretty awesome to have Wilkes.

But this is Wilkesboro getting the points race was, it's for me, the final, the final,

uh, validation, validation or the final leg, final.

All right.

It's all the way back.

Yeah.

It wasn't all the way back yet.

Also our race was cool, but for it to feel like, man, yep.

All right.

We have completed the mission.

Yeah.

The points race is the deal.

I'm looking forward to.

Lap traffic and 450 laps.

Lap traffic.

Is it 450 in it or is it 350?

They gave the race like 50 extra laps or some.

Cause it used to be the Holly farms, 400.

So the cup race is like the extended at 50 laps.

Yes.

The window world for 50.

Yep.

450 laps.

Oh yeah.

That's a long one, boy.

It is.

Fuck a lot.

Yeah.

I just liked the fact that there's going to be like lap traffic.

Like there's going to be things going on at the whole race, like that you're

going to be able to key in on and see being there is going to be great.

The coolest is when they repaved this racetrack, it took the groove down in one

and two and ran and put it on the wall.

And now, so you run the wall in one and two and then you run.

Yeah.

Traditionally you run the lower bottom groove in three and four.

So they try to move up in three and four, but it just, it's close.

It's close.

Man, they, they worked that high entry into one up.

Like you don't even, you didn't even chop the corner anymore.

It's like, it's bad ass.

It is.

They do that in a late model stock too.

They run wide ass open down the hill.

So the front straight away is downhill and you're hauling ass off in the corner

and you just, whoa, right up into the wall, right at the wall, turn and go.

It's, and you got to turn down too.

So if a guy dives inside, take that line away and it promotes maybe some

contact at times for sure.

So yeah, I'm excited about it.

That ass little racetrack.

It is.

So we'll have some fun with that.

Um, yeah.

Chase Elliott, that'll be awesome.

I'm excited too.

He's excited.

I texted this morning and he's like, Hey man, I'm wanting to get over to the shop.

Put, get in my seat.

We've been messing with the seat.

He came over a couple of weeks ago.

I'm like, all right, man, they're there.

They'll be there.

Go check it out.

I'm like, I'm, hey, we're racing with Chase this weekend in Chicago land and

we're going to race again with him with the late model.

He's, we're like, dude, this is fantastic.

I was like, when you see the cup drivers go racing the cars tour, just to, you

know, like it's just good for the sport.

Yeah.

When's Danny running?

I don't know.

Well, Danny needs, I told him this, Danny and 2311 need a late model team.

A cars tour program.

Now I'm trying to talk Brad into it too.

Yeah.

Boy, cause Cory Hyme, he's going to run two or three more races with us.

It'd be great to have one.

Yeah.

I told Cory, Cory race with us at ACE and the race was over and I went over to him.

I was like, dude, thank you so much for running with us.

He's like, no problem.

I'm going to run some more.

And then he won that race in San Diego and I was like, Hey, uh, you're going to

run, he's like, we were, I saw him after the race and I was like, uh, we were

drinking a beer at the bar and I was like, uh, he's like, Hey man, where are you

running next?

And I told him, he's, he's like, I got a couple more.

I'm excited.

He's excited to race in the cars tour.

And I was like, Hey, I told you at ACE, thanks for running with us.

But now that you're a cup winner, it's even a bigger deal to have you come

run.

It's totally different.

Yeah.

So pretty fantastic.

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64s.

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Race winners.

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This guy pulls for a lot of great race car drivers.

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He's got the Blaney's.

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I wonder if that's Lil Zane Smith action.

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Chromat.

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Ross.

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Trucks, more trucks.

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He is.

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All right, SVG is called into the show.

SVG, the big winner over the course of the weekend, swept the races in the

O'Reilly series and the Cup series at Sonoma.

Bad ass job.

Thanks for calling in today, man.

How's it going?

Yeah, pretty good.

Still on a high.

Yeah.

Caught back up on sleep.

So I'm good now.

I was going to ask you if you got some rest yesterday.

I think everybody slept all day yesterday.

Yeah, Lord, I did.

The three hours kind of muck you up on that time zone.

But yeah, the four AM get home on Monday wasn't too fun, especially when

it was just flying home, not out partying.

So that wasn't good.

Yep.

Shane.

One time I ran third at Sonoma with Steve LaTarte and that was like a

win for us.

And so is that a fact?

Hell yes.

We ran third.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

We put tires on late.

Come out.

We ran.

We came from like 15th to 30.

That'd be fun in the last run.

You were there.

I don't remember it, but it had to be fun.

We flew home from Sonoma and we all met at my house at 56 in the morning

and drank beer till like two in the afternoon.

Yeah.

I don't know if I can do that these days.

Those, those were, yeah.

I, yeah, we were a little bit younger back then.

Yeah, I don't think it happened.

But we were so happy to have run in the top five at that place.

I ran my entire career at Sonoma and my best finish for a long, long time was

like 11.

I just couldn't figure the place out.

It's a tough racetrack.

It's one of your favorites.

Yep.

And you seem to really have a understanding of how to get around there,

especially the most impressive part to me is your ability to get through the S of

all.

I've always found, you know, 678 to be a very challenging turn.

You know, putting those together and making that sort of section of the racetrack

perform well is really, really tough.

One of the things that I was, I want to kind of get in the weeds here.

One of the things that helped me there was, and this is different cars, different

tires, all that years ago, but I would go, you know, you use up a

lot of curb on the right side, trying to stay right to turn in to turn seven, right?

The first left-hander of the S's and we would take our old cars really and climb

all over those little curbs, which is this little entrance into the road course or into

the infield and you kind of jump them.

They're like little speed bumps and then you use a little bit of curb in seven.

There's a bit of a little straightaway between seven and eight and then you kind of pop

up over eight, you know, and you spend the tires down the hill.

I would just fly through there as fast as I could, but I was never on the gas at any

point during that whole section and Ron Fellows, who was a road course racer that

used to run with us, he told me about how he'd pop throttle right in between the S's

in between seven and eight.

He'd just go, just a little gas that would kind of drive the car snug and help tighten

up the right-hander going up over the hill down into nine.

And I was kind of curious as to what do you think is important for you?

That's one of the most critical parts of the racetrack because if you don't get

through there good, you're defending in 11.

And so what is important about the S's?

What do you need to happen there and how do you use the curbs or what is the things

you're focusing on?

Yeah, well, I think we had speed in the wrong places for tire life and we were really

asked for the S's.

This is in the cup car and we just had so much front grip through there, but I would

kill the tires and the slow speed.

But yeah, if I got on the throttle between eight and nine or eight and eight, I think

they call it, if I got on the car, I went there too slowly like you should be flying

through the left.

But yeah, using that, I think there's like a cut through for the road course on the

right there, but the curbs are so you can kind of run them and open up the left, but

it's pretty risky in the cup car.

The O'Reilly car would ride over it like a Cadillac, but the cup kind of bounces.

It's hard to do.

Yeah.

I mean, it's just flow there.

It's so hard to, so hard to take speed, but that's where you can take the most out of

the tires as well.

So it's real, real compromise.

Yeah.

What was, you talked about the slow corners.

What was it about the, the, you know, turn 11, turn 47 those corners that

were beating up the tires.

Was it just a real drive?

I mean, it's just so hot.

The surface there is, it's degraded a little bit, but it's so dark.

It's very black tarmac and it just, you know, when it gets the sun beat on it, it just

gets slick.

And I think, yeah, it's just so hot and the massive traction zones and you just, you

just slip in the whole time.

And that's where the Gibbs cars were unreal.

They had really good straight drive, but we had better braking and turning.

So it kind of was a bit of a battle, but I would definitely, definitely have swapped

some of that for some regroup like they had.

Yeah.

Do you like tracks like that?

You know what I mean?

Like to get real slick like that.

Is that fun for, you know, for you?

I mean, it's fun going flat out the whole time as well, but yeah, the management's

fun when you're decent at it too.

Like when you can see it.

Yeah.

It makes the last half of the stint fun.

That's for sure.

When you see other.

Oh yeah.

If you, yeah.

It's a big difference in speed.

If you do it, right?

Yeah.

It's, it's really like, if you, you can take it out of the tire and restarts to gain a

couple of spots and forget you certainly pay for it later.

Yeah.

You've told us, um, it, you know, during San Diego weekend that the, you know, the

cup series competition was tougher than we all were giving them credit for.

And I think brisco proved that out on Sunday and really made you sweat it.

Um, you know, he missed a corner in term one and two, but if he hadn't done that,

I'm not sure what would have ended up going on on the last lap.

You know, when you're racing, uh, when you're racing with him, are you really

paying much of attention to what he's doing?

Are you trying to learn some of the, you know, you really learn anything from

watching him, uh, as much as you're trying to pay attention to what you're

doing?

No, no, not really cause he was, he was behind me the whole day, but I already

spoke to him in, in the driver's meeting.

Now we sit in qualifying order, you know, so you kind of sit who you, who you're

starting around and he said he was really happy with his car.

And I was a bit worried about that.

Um, yeah, I could see him all day, you know, and I was kind of, kind of,

interested why the 54 flip the stages.

I guess they ended up with a massive points day, but you know, they would

have been real problem if they didn't.

Um, but yeah, I saw the 19 all day in my mirror and it was getting closer all

day as well.

For sure.

Yeah.

We were kind of wondering about the 54.

Ty, Ty Gibbs got out of his car at the end of the day and said he thought he

had enough pace to bring it, the battle to you and he may have been a little

better than the 19.

Um, but they did choose a unique route, uh, considering where they were in

the, in the championship that may be the right play when it's all said and done.

You know, you got to, he had like a 54 point day and ends up, you know,

kind of separating himself a little bit from some guys around that fourth

position in points.

Um, you're now 14th in points.

Um, I guess you're feeling a little bit better.

Uh, after, after Sonoma considering what happened in San Diego.

Uh, you probably haven't had much time to really reflect on it, but, um, you

know, can you forget about San Diego, let that go, not worry about it.

Focus forward, go to Chicago land with confidence that you absolutely can make

the chase.

There's going to be, and don't, don't get pissed off about that.

There's going to be debate whether you can do it or not.

That's what's fun about sports.

Uh, there'll be a lot of people pulling for you and looking at you as kind

of an underdog to be able to score your way into the chase.

You don't feel that way about yourself, but that's the way you're going to be

positioned.

It's like, there'll be this debate.

Can he do it?

We'll talk about it Sunday.

We'll talk about it next week.

Um, how do you guys feel?

I mean, that's points format certainly made it exciting.

Um, yeah, a mindset definitely changes now.

We're back into points, accumulation mode and just trying to get as many as we

can every week.

And I need to not get involved in the stupid stuff like I did at Pocono and

wherever else we did, like every week, I got to maximize my position and you

know, that's probably going to be 10th to 20th.

And you know, if we run good, like we have in a couple of races, maybe we

can be in that top 10, but yeah, a 20th every week or 15th, we got to, we got

to do that and got to execute as well as we can and try and get ourselves in

there, you know, um, but yeah, the, the hard part is the stage points.

Um, qualifying is a weakness for me on the ovals and it's hard to get stage

points when you're stuck back there.

So yeah, I need to, uh, need to improve that and just be consistent, not make

mistakes, but you know, not give anything up either.

Keep getting aggressive and, um, try and stay up the front.

Yeah.

The one thing that I, I find interesting now though is I think you

have improved a lot in your oval stuff and there is, you're now sort of.

In a situation where there could, if you're, say you're at a SEM session

with your group or you're sitting in a meeting with your crew chief or your

team engineers, there's a bit of a line now in the sand where it's, all right.

I see that I could get better here, but also the program itself has some

things that it can do better.

I know the track house has made some gains this year and we saw some of that

at Nashville.

We saw some of that out of you at Charlotte, but what else does the team,

the organization need to be better, uh, to give you guys the car, the

Chastain, you, you and Chastain are running right on top of each other at

the ovals at a lot of, of these races, right?

And so you know now, Hey, all right, you know, he's good.

Chastain's great.

Um, the organization needs to gain a bit of performance.

Where, where do you guys, guys need to improve?

Yeah.

I mean, you sort of summed it up in your question.

I mean, for me, I'm really referencing to Ross still because I know he's

capable of winning races when, when the cars and equipments right.

Um, as a team, we're definitely on the up.

I feel like we've had a lot more flashes in the last couple of months.

Um, so it's coming, but we really just need to keep working, keep trying stuff.

And, but you know, we can't take too much risk on the 97 car, but you know,

the other two can, and hopefully they try some stuff and hit on some stuff.

And, but yeah, for us, we just need to keep improving and keep trying to get

that average position up.

That'll really help.

But yeah, I think we need to find some performance too.

Yeah.

So do you like, how do you look at the old ones now?

Are you, I know road courses you got covered.

Do you get more excited about them?

Cause you obviously you're progressing and we, you're obviously

starting better and better at them.

Do they like, they becoming more fun or are you enjoying them?

I mean, they've always been fun, but I mean, it's cool now being more

competitive and understanding and being able to adapt and change lanes and move

around and start understanding how to do that.

Whereas I'd be welded to one line before now I can go top to bottom and

try and understand how to make speed and multiple lines, which is, that's

been a big improvement there, but I need to, uh, you know, it's all about trying

to find clean air and these big tracks is, it's fun learning how to do that.

And I think I'm getting better at it, but still, you know, I'll make a

wrong choice and follow someone in on there on their bumper and just plow up

the track.

Yeah.

You're definitely becoming more versatile as a driver, you know, especially

like the Nashville, you've had some really strong runs.

So it's got to be fun to be in that position.

Yeah.

And then as soon as you get up there with those good guys, it's even, it's

like it on the road courses too, the racing's just better too.

They know as much as a hurry and then dog eat dog and it's, uh, the racing

good up front, but you've got to get up there.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

So the racing in the back half of the field is insane.

Like it's just crazy.

Do you know much about Chicago land?

Have you done much sin in that track?

Uh, what's your expectations this weekend?

Yeah.

So it'll be on, on sim later.

Um, haven't done too much.

I've seen some of the videos from the tire test and Larson's on board.

It looks crazy.

That bump at three and four.

He kind of just, oh yeah, before he hits it to not have it with any ore and it

looks, it looks really, really tough.

But, um, yeah, all the testing footage was on the bottom.

Um, just running the line, but every race I watch on YouTube.

Tracks though.

I'm sure.

Yeah.

I'm sure it'll be one time once we, once we start racing and absolutely.

Yeah.

I'm, I'm excited for this weekend.

It's a badass race track.

And there's a, yeah, there's a bump, the bump you're talking about in three and

four, we will tell fans about that all weekend long.

It's nasty, really, really bad bump.

Um, and then driving down the front straightaway, often to turn one, it's

almost like you drive off a set of stairs.

There's a, there's a, it's not a bump.

It's more of a jump.

Um, so yeah, getting into turn one, there's like a drop off almost where the

car just kind of drops, you know, drives off about a set of three stairs.

Yeah.

You've always ran good there too.

So yeah, I loved all the tracks where you could get up against the fence.

That was my fun.

I enjoyed those.

All right, bud.

We'll appreciate you calling in man.

Good luck.

We'll see you in Chicago and, uh, hoping you can have a couple, a couple of

good weeks, stream a couple of good weeks together, keep that, uh,

oval progression going forward.

Oh, thanks guys.

Thanks for having me.

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We got Russell here calling in to talk to us.

There's no lines out yet for this weekend's race in Chicago land.

But I've got one question for you.

We just got done talking to SVG on the show.

The predictor said that after San Diego, his chance to make the playoffs went from

67% to 20%.

I was wondering if there was a new percentage considering the results from Sonoma.

Yeah, we're back up to 35%.

Ah, we're up to 35%.

Very nice.

That feels about right.

We are back to frozen Russ as well.

We're going to sit on...

We're going to talk about that a lot.

So I want you to keep that stat in the notes.

Where does that sit with some of the other drivers around him though?

Like an Eric Jones.

What's his percentage?

Like Eric Jones is 31%.

It's all pretty even through there.

The biggest one...

Um, Lugano is the one that I don't totally agree with there.

He's at 50%.

Hey, making it...

Whoa.

I know.

But if you look at the next...

What do we have?

Eight to go.

If you look at the next eight tracks, there's some decent tracks for Joey Logs.

Could you put that in the notes where we could get that percentage?

For everybody?

Yeah.

You got it for everybody.

Yeah, man.

Give me the top 25.

Yeah, that and I want spider grass for every driver in that area.

We don't do spider grass.

I like the spider grass.

I do too, but it's hard to correlate that to the screen to fans.

Dale's a big crap guy.

They love percentages.

You tell me a percentage, I get it.

Right away.

Dale, how are our rest's notes this year?

Are they good for you?

Do we need any tweaks?

Like where are we at?

I like the notes a lot.

Okay, just making sure.

Just to make sure.

Why are y'all laughing?

This is this or something.

I mean, I can tell you in detail.

Well, in years past that it wasn't written out specifically how Dale wanted.

I just wanted to make sure that Russ is great notes are good this year.

I'm easier this year.

Russell, what's the model say?

We since we don't have lines out, what's your predictor say for it?

It's exactly what you expect.

Denny Hamlin, Larsson, Chase Elliott, Ryan Blaney, William Byron.

Where's Bell?

Um, so Bell is down.

He's like 10th.

Really?

What about Briscoe?

Briscoe, I like a little better.

Um, he's right in there too.

He's right with him.

It's there.

That's a coin clip.

You know what?

What hurts a lot of these guys is, you know, we still use some track information.

So a lot of these guys haven't been there.

So they get a little hurt on some of that.

Does that hurt them?

You know, do you think it's going to hurt them in the race?

Not being there before?

Like, or is this like a whole new track?

I think it helps the guys that have been there, but I don't think it hurts them

more than it helps them.

Does that make sense?

Yeah.

So like anytime you go back to a place where you won, I don't think it matters

that it's been six or seven years.

It's, you know, you've won there.

We've also got extended practice this time.

How much is that going to help guys?

Oh, it's big.

Anytime you have more practice, it brings the field closer to me.

At least I think so anyway.

And at the same time as well, right?

Like when you're all practicing with the same track, like we talked about

the whole deal before where everyone's qualifying and practicing on different

tracks.

Yeah.

So I'll be, I'll be thankful for the extra practice to be able to really kind of

handicap the field and understand who we think might have a shot at it.

Get two runs, two on tires, I believe.

So you'll be able to see guys come in, put stickers on and then two sets of tires.

Yeah.

You'll be able to see more down the road.

Who's going to be good?

Yeah.

So I found that interesting that like the top three drivers from each manufacturer

were the ones that did the tire test there.

So you had Hamlin from Toyota, the best of the best Chevy and then Blaney from Ford.

So you say Byron wasn't it Larson?

Yeah, it was Larson.

Did I say Byron?

Yeah.

That's okay.

Hey, sometimes we make mistakes.

I've made a bunch of mistakes on this show today.

So I like to do top 10s.

So let's figure out who we think is give me a guy that I would expect to make,

make, you know, get a top 10 that's going to get one this weekend.

This, this one's going to surprise you, but it's, it's Brad Kuzlowski.

Yeah.

Whoa.

Really?

I don't get him in a wreck.

Yeah.

It's all up to TJ, but it's going to be Brad.

Brad avoidance.

This predictor definitely is leaning into the historical data.

Like was worse finishing on a mile and a half in the last sevens been 15th.

So it's, it doesn't go back, but also it doesn't hurt that you had nine straight

top 10s at Chicagoland just since we've been there.

So yeah.

Two decades ago, but that was a different car.

I don't care.

It's still the same, same crackish.

Yeah.

Tell Chase Elliott that on the road courses.

So you don't like the Brad K one?

Is there going to be a lot of falloff?

There's going to be a ton of falloff.

I was asking Russ what he's predicting.

Yes.

There's going to be a lot of fallout that definitely caters to a guy like Danny

and Brad, those guys that can, they just have a feel for that.

Yeah.

All right.

Brad Kislowski.

I, you know what?

Brad did a damn good job this weekend.

Managing his race.

I didn't run him in anything.

Dude, now this started last on the field.

Everybody's like, holy s***, what the hell's happened to Brad Kislowski?

Boy, he's fell off.

But he did a good job.

Yeah.

We were actually doing decent at San Diego and we just got the caution at the wrong

time and got caught up in other stuff.

But.

What about Bell?

If he has some 10th, I'm guessing Vegas is probably going to have him kind of around

there too.

Do you like putting him in a top 10 parlay?

Who?

Bell.

I do because I feel like he's, since Michigan, he's kind of, they've put him back a little

bit compared to where he normally is and I feel like he could pop back off and.

What's our good comparison to this racetrack?

And the, you know, what, what is a good comparison?

I mean, you know, it's not like Charlotte or a little bit of Kansas.

Maybe.

Yeah.

Kansas?

Yeah.

But I don't know.

Kansas doesn't have, I don't think Kansas has quite the amount of fall off, right, Russ?

I mean, it has some, but like not like what we're maybe expecting this weekend.

No, I'd say it's less than we're expecting this weekend for sure.

So.

Yeah.

So you're wanting me to make a bet where I put Brad Kislowski in the, in a top 10 parlay.

I said that that's what I would like to do.

Yes.

When we go to these, these type of racetracks, the Toyotas have been dominant this year.

You said a surprise.

You're going to have the top 10 is going to be riddled with Toyotas and some shabbies.

Brad's not even the best forward.

He's going to be good because of the fall off.

That's, that's my answer.

All right.

Um, all right, I'll do Brad Kislowski.

Who else?

You know who I think, uh, you know, who might surprise at this racetrack?

Man, Eric Jones could do well.

This is a real big reach, but I don't know why I feel like Suarez.

He's high on the predictor.

So he, listen, Suarez, I've, I've watched this guy and he seems to do well on these older surfaces.

You know, he just, he just does and.

He won at Charlotte.

I know it's a little bit of a weird thing.

A little bit of weird thing.

Yeah, that was, that was a little weird thing.

But he was still fast.

Yeah.

I feel like Suarez would be a good gamble.

Now I would not put, put Suarez and Brad in the same bet, but you know, just pick, you're going to pick your one long shot.

And then you're going to add two automatics into the parlay.

Yeah.

Not for a parlay, but what do you think about Shane's chances to have a good finish?

He's going to qualify.

He's going to start go out later for qualifying.

He's going to start to go out later for qualifying.

What do we think that he can do this weekend?

Great question.

And great, great, great point about him going out later and qualifying.

So he's got a good draw for qualifying.

Not so they don't draw anymore, but that's what I like to call it.

Yeah.

It's got a good qualifying.

He was really good last mile and a half.

We went to Charlotte and Nashville.

Yeah.

Like I think a top 15 for him could be a good one.

I think he's going to be a good one.

Like I think a top 15 for him could be doable.

Yeah.

Obviously you can't bet that, but I think so.

Yeah.

That's pretty good.

What do you think?

Russell, anything else?

What do you think about Bowman?

He won the last race there.

You like him coming off some decent momentum from Sonoma.

What's Bowman?

I mean, Bowman's always good at Kansas too.

Like Kansas is one of Alex's best tracks, I think.

Yeah.

And HMS is starting to find some stuff.

So Bowman, I really think, could have a really good run this weekend.

Yeah.

I do.

Yeah.

Well, you know, I love that.

I like, we like Bowman.

We like Braggers-Lasky, Sorez.

I wouldn't be, you know, there's some good names.

Jones is a great one that you brought up, TJ.

Yeah.

I mean, a super long shot to me could be John Hunter.

For top 10s.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean.

He's had some speed here.

Legacy could go out there and both those cars could run in a top 12.

What do you think about Legacy though on a track like this?

Danny was saying that these kind of tracks, they still haven't really nailed it.

Like where they go.

The advantages that Toyota's have maybe aren't quite as, it ain't quite as strong on the,

on these abrasive racer tracks.

Yeah, especially for Legacy.

Yeah.

Yeah, possible.

I do think the abrasive racetrack, racetracks bring the field closer together.

Don't you rust like it definitely changes the raw speed of the car.

Can kind of hurt at times, I guess.

Yes, but wait, especially when you talk about Legacy, Eric Jones has been great at Darlington

and that's, you know, where he has the most fall off of anybody.

Yeah.

10-4.

All right.

Thanks Russell.

Hey, I'll see you at the racetrack this weekend, buddy.

Appreciate it.

Great.

Good job on the notes this year.

Good notes this year.

Great job.

Thanks.

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Well, it depends on like the size of like if, I mean, if it's thick and consistent can

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My garbage disposal.

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That's sketchy.

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The worst is if you have to take it apart.

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The tiny speaker.

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There's multiple speakers.

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Yeah.

But there's, that's some of the fun stuff that we've been having fun with today.

You still have your road bike?

And I've got this box.

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Have you ever seen these guys?

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Read the cat when you ordered them.

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And what that's all about.

But anyhow, I hope everybody's brackets doing good.

If you didn't fill out a bracket, you're late.

Too late.

But anyways, yeah, let's just get to some questions.

Well, first question is a topic we didn't get into.

Who's to blame for Denny being wrecked?

Denny.

Should have been there.

Damn, TJ.

Nah, I'm just kidding.

Now that I've seen it, I think it's just a road course racing.

There's like four things that happened.

It's just a chain of events.

Yes.

Bumper cars, bang, bang, bang.

So Brad gets pushed.

The 48's pushing Brad, right?

It's what you do.

You know?

These cars, it's what you do in the corner.

Yeah, you get in the braking zone.

You get against a guy's bumper and you just kind of shoving him into the corner.

And he's not trying to move us or anything.

That's just what you do into the corners there.

Absolutely.

He's not trying to wreck Brad, but he's just kind of shoving him into the corner.

And he's only doing that to protect himself because he may be getting hit from behind

too and he doesn't want.

What you don't want in these cars that I've learned from the drivers is to be hit in the

back bumper and hit into the next car because it's like a, it's like a bam, bam.

It's like a bam, bam thing with the headrest, your head.

It's really uncomfortable.

And so they don't like to be, they want to be against the car in front of them.

If they, if somebody runs in the back of them, it's not like a pop, pop.

Yeah.

So Alex into the back of Brad, Brad hits the back of 77, but the 77 kind of fades back

left over in front here and Denny's a little wide.

So there's like four or five things that happened.

It's just racing.

I mean, nobody went in there and Carson did not even go in there and even thinking he

was going to turn Denny.

No, no way.

Yeah.

Nigra Carson, Josefar has been absolved of all fault.

Yeah.

He, he's a, he's a fish.

He's cleared.

It's official.

His fans, man, if you say his name, what'd you say?

They're ready to go.

What'd you say?

They're like teed up waiting for a moment.

What'd you say about the hurricane?

I'm starting to see a lot of like, just like host of our fans, 77 one, like there's a lot

of just like non names out there that are just ready to attack.

Yeah.

What do you say?

And they're creating accounts to wonder if it's Carson.

Well, I would think so.

I wonder if a lot of them are Carson, Josefar.

He seems to be able to respond to about any comment made.

I would say yes.

A lot of these were happening during the race.

I don't think those are.

He's even in the comments on some Instagram posts going at it was Zippa.

Yeah.

It's great.

Where does it?

How does he see all this?

I don't know.

Is somebody sending him every one of our hits?

You know, he's I got them friends.

His army.

We all got them friends.

They'll be like, man, you see this?

Yeah.

And you'll be like, why'd you share?

Why'd you send me this?

I don't want to see this.

Yeah.

I don't need to talk about it.

I don't need to respond to it.

You know what I mean?

If I didn't know it's better off, I'm better off not know 100%.

That's yeah.

Absolutely.

He's got people that are like, Hey, man, look at this.

Just got to see it.

What are you going to do about it?

What are you going to say?

Yeah.

You got to respond to this.

You should tweet something.

Yeah, you should do that.

He does.

You know, you know, he's got all them guys, all them buddies of his that are, you know,

they're all about the same age, probably a little younger.

I don't feel like we ever, I don't feel like we were ever like you should really know.

Not bad.

Not like that.

Man, when we were younger, we used to put each other all the time on, on text messages

and stuff.

Yeah.

That's not it's published prod.

Yes.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

And then TJ would instigate each other into doing something stupid.

Like, I'm going to try to make him get mad about this and get frustrated and go say something

to this guy.

We used to do to Mike Davis like weekly.

Oh yeah.

Like weekly.

So we did that all the time.

That's what he's got.

He's got going on.

Yeah.

Man, you going to do something about that?

You're going to let him say that.

You're not going to do anything.

The guy, the guy in Michigan that took the hat off Mike's head, he talked that guy right

into that.

Mike, that's so mad.

What happened?

A guy, we were standing.

We ran that special ski.

We were standing waiting for our ride to leave the racetrack and we were waiting.

Some fans had come around and we were signing autographs.

One fan was very drunk said, I want that hat on your head.

Mike, you ought to give it to me.

And Mike said, no, I'm not giving you my hat.

I knew Mike had more of those in his bag.

And I said, why don't you give it to him, Mike?

You got a bunch of them in your bag.

The guy just yanks it off Mike's head and Mike lost his.

Lost his mind.

I've never seen Mike like, and we were laughing because I'm like, Mike, wow, you had three

or four in your bag.

He's like, nobody takes my hat off my head.

We had run that special scheme.

The Ralph Fern, Hart father's day.

Yeah.

So each car, it was a bad ass.

It was third.

We were all happy.

Mike wasn't we run second or third.

I think I think Casey came one.

Edwards was second.

I was third.

Yeah.

Good day.

Yeah.

Fast car.

Next question.

People will know what was it like meeting Travis Kelsey San Diego.

That's cool.

You know, you, you hear people are going to be at the racetrack and sometimes it's people

you want to meet.

Sometimes you're excited about it.

We were up on the carrier and I wasn't sure who was coming all the way up there.

It wasn't easy to get on that boat.

You had to, it wasn't easy to get to where the boat was.

Yeah.

You know, it's way off from the other side of the race track.

Complete opposite side.

Yeah.

You had to drive through a bunch of gates, get clearance through those gates.

There were guards with guns and all kinds of stuff and multiple points to be able to

drive through.

You had to show your passes and all this stuff.

Not a big problem for a guy like him, but it was just a process.

And then you had to go up several 10 flights of stairs to get to where the deck was.

And then to get in the tower and go up in the bridge was another, I don't know, four,

56 flights of stairs.

But anyhow, you know, you're sitting there thinking, man, this is a great place.

This is a big ass race, deal.

The one thing that I'll tell you is my homes and all those guys came to that race on their

own accord.

My boss is a bachelor party.

My boss has told me, well, usually every celebrity you see has been brought to the race through

a partnership, a request from a sponsor of theirs, or even the outright series is paying

for them to be there or giving them something.

And they reached out to NASCAR and they reached out to Amazon and said, how do we get to

this race?

We want to come.

We're going to be in the area and we want to come see it.

I thought that was pretty neat.

That felt very Formula One like, right?

You see celebrities at Formula One races.

Now if I see a celebrity at a Formula One race, I'm not, I don't think they're all getting

paid to be there.

They want to be seen at that event.

And that's what San Diego felt like a little bit, especially when that happened.

So I'm just thankful.

They wanted to be there.

They weren't asked to be there.

They wanted to be there and that was neat.

That made me want to meet them more.

Yeah.

Talladega, when the packers, all them packers, the whole packers came for fun, like all them

players, that was pretty cool.

What was even cooler was Morgan wanted a picture with them.

Our Morgan, who's a massive fan of Taylor and him and all that, she was like, I was like,

I'm going to take a picture and then as soon as I got done, I was like, all right, Morgan,

hop in there.

I saw her right after and she was like, guess what?

Travis is here.

So she was pumped.

It's pretty neat.

Speaking of San Diego, one of the things we didn't touch on.

And his brother too.

See, that's what probably got him going is he saw Jason with Hendrick a couple weeks

back.

I saw him like, I need to get up there myself.

Got to win.

Yeah.

They were great.

Speaking of San Diego, we didn't touch on this, but what was it like going to the iBar

Sunday night?

It was awesome.

Fun.

I'll pick on Steve Littard a little bit.

We go to the iBar.

You know, you've seen the movie and you've seen the bar and you hear the stories and

we drove by it every day going in and out to the aircraft carrier to work.

And it just looks like it looks on the outside like every other building.

Nondescript.

Don't even.

And I'm thinking in my mind like, you know, man.

You know, the pictures on the pictures from the inside, it looks like a cool place, right?

It's like, not out here, but it doesn't look like a like, okay.

So, um, but that's the greatest dive bars, you know, you walk up on them.

You don't even know they're there till you go and go in.

Um, but we got told like on Saturday night, hey, we're all allowed to go and have a beer

at this bar when the race is over.

And I thought, man, all right.

Uh, I wonder how, you know, wonder who all got this invite.

So I wasn't sure who it was, but we were all allowed, but we were also supposed to keep

it real quiet.

And so race is over and we get done with all our post race and stuff.

And we're, we're, our TV compound was literally only about 300 feet from it or not very far

at all.

We walked right over there, walk in and it's slam full of people.

It's got all the NASCAR people in there.

Um, Ben Kennedy, everybody from NASCAR, Helton.

Uh, there was a lot of, uh, a lot of military in there, but it was slammed full and some

regulars, just normal people, regular old people just hanging out on a Sunday evening

that were just to go there all the time.

Uh, and it's everything you, you, you, everything you hear about, it's all the mugs hanging

and all the planes and everything and people walk in there with their hat on and they'd

ring the bell and you know, nobody had to actually buy a beer because it was an open

bar, but, uh, they were, they mess with a few people that put their phones on the bar

and were had in there.

I almost walked in there with my hat on and somebody said something and there was a call

a couple of military guys at the door and they're like, why'd you tell him?

We were ready.

Yeah.

Some more Ernie's, get your phone out at Ernie's.

You buy around.

And then, uh, really cool to watch Corey Heim come in, uh, he's part of his post race celebratory

process ride.

He comes in, still got his driver's suit on, goes back, gets his beer, you know, gets a

big cheers, um, hangs his mug up and, uh, that was pretty cool.

So that made me think, man, you know, that, that's the kind of NASCAR needs to be doing.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like you win a race and you go get a beer at the damn bar down the street of the one,

the famous bar in the area.

You go and have a beer and a big cheers and everybody's invited.

And, um, that was a really, really neat moment.

Do you think it's like, it's because it blot, we're staying.

It just makes it, you know, everyone's not in a rush to get out of there.

It felt ceremonial, but very, uh, it felt like it, you know, something that could be

like ceremonial, traditional.

It just really added to what you thought the weekend was supposed to be and how cool it

was.

And, you know, cause you, you go to, you go to San Diego and it's badass everywhere.

You look, you've never seen any of this stuff before and you're on a carrier doing the race

and the race is on a street course.

It wasn't there and beautiful area, San Diego, weather's great.

Um, so I mean, just the whole, but as soon as the checker flag falls to your point, TJ,

like it's over.

They start tearing the track apart immediately.

I mean, we were on the flight deck of that boat of the ship and when the post race was

over, all those, all those kids, those men and women in the white uniforms that work

on that carrier, their officers were shouting at them.

We got to certify this deck.

Let's go everybody.

There's, you know, parties over, get to it back to work.

It's an active naval base.

It happened immediately.

And I, and it was such a reminder of where we're at.

Like, yep, this is real for them.

The same, you know, they're, they were so thankful to like have a little reprieve from

the, from the, from the routine of what they do every day.

And then, but as soon as that was over, their officers made sure to let them know that it's

over with back to work, get to it.

We got to certify this deck.

We're going to be flying in 24 hours.

Yeah.

So my experience with the people that worked on that base and the week, they were awesome.

Yeah.

And the experience that like going on to there and stuff and the, the, the people that were

there working and stuff was really good.

It's just, it's true, but like when you're, when the, you know, you, it's just interesting

to be around the military because in those moments, because when it's, when, when it's,

when it's recess, for lack of a better word, everybody's, all the officers, all the upperclassmen

and women are, are everybody's nice and kind and everybody's, everything's good.

But when that's over and it's back to work, like it's, they snap back into like work mode

and what, what, who they are, what they are and the rank and file.

Yep.

And it is a real deal and you better get out of the way.

But it's just, it's just really cool.

And yeah, that was badass.

Going to the bar, I bar was fun.

So I was going to pick on Steve.

We get there.

We're going to have a beer.

I'm thinking, you know, I'm, it was hard to get up there and to get a beer.

So I ordered two for me and I drink those really fast and then I ordered two more.

And so I'm sitting there.

I'm 34 beers in after about 30 minutes and Steve brought his wife, Trish, God bless,

God bless her.

Steve had his beer and he's like, all right, I've had my beer.

Last roll when she goes, we ain't leaving.

She had some friends there.

She's like, I bar, are you kidding me?

We're going to have more than one beer.

And so they were going to head back to the hotel.

But yeah, I had about, I had about six beers, plenty of beers.

Yeah.

I mean, you never know the next time you're going to be back there.

So you got to take it in.

I hope next year.

Hopefully, but if not, you know, at least you did it right.

Yeah.

Next question.

I think the chat said it, you know, the prime's over with and now it's the TNT and they want

to know what you thought of the pre and post race set with Jimmy and Marty on there with

the rest of the guys.

So yeah, I'm glad you asked that question.

TNT made a lot of changes.

We upgraded bad ass stage for our pre and post race makes the event feel bigger, makes

it feel more important.

And you know, Jimmy and Jamie and Marty on there was a lot of fun.

We knew coming in to our shows that we were going to be just so there's no, there's not

a lot of producing.

There's not a lot of direction with TNT.

They don't tell you they don't put.

So with most people that I've worked with, when we get there in the morning, there'll

be one or two pages of the run of show and it'll be like, okay, on the run of show, it'll

be like, all right, Marty's going to say this at the top of the show.

We're going to show this video.

We're going to show we're this stat and graphic.

And then we're going to ask Dale this question.

We're going to ask Jamie this question.

It's very itemized to the minute.

Yeah.

TNT, they're like, they have the producers have these sheets and you're like, Hey, do

I get one of them?

And I'm like, why do you need one?

Just sit down.

Just talk.

And Marty's going to ask you, you know, Marty's going to start it off and y'all just go.

If you got something to say, say it.

And they, um, they haven't like said this outwardly, but the impression is, is like, they want that

stage and that pre and post race to have a very inside the NBA field.

And like, if you got something to say, if a guy's talking and you got a counterpoint

or a joke or a comment that you think, you know, something that you think they said that's

silly, you say it.

It was like inside the NBA slash college game day.

That's right.

And, you know, and so the only fun or it's very fun.

The only problem is every now and then we're going to talk on top of each other.

So we were doing the interview with SVG.

I've got a couple of questions in my mind that I'm ready to ask him, but I know there's

four other guys.

They got the questions they want to ask as well, but my ass is going to ask two back

to back questions.

I'm going to listen to SVG answer.

And as soon as he's done, you follow up, I'm coming with the next question.

And sometimes at the same time, Jimmy's going to do the same thing.

And that happened in the moment.

And that's going to happen.

And now, you know, if I've got a question in and I'm trying to get another one and Jimmy's

got one, I'm going to get out of the way.

Jimmy, go ahead, man.

You asked your question.

Was it Jimmy or Jimmy Jam?

Jimmy Jam.

So, you know, it's, you know, we, we did not know that they were going to play the drunk

Jimmy interview.

I didn't know they were going to show that video of Jamie Murray dropping his pants and

telling everybody on the floor, but they want the show to be cool and chill and know,

you know, it is what it is.

And we're all going to, you know, we're all going to make fun of each other and get made

fun of.

And it's just going to be, it's going to be what it is.

So I'm excited about it.

I think, I think from last year, TNT made some big gains.

We had, I heard we had some audio issues.

So that's the only part that I can't hear and see.

Like, I don't know when we're having audio issues because I'm not listening to the broadcast.

So we do the whole show and we get done.

And I'm like, that felt pretty good.

You know, but then you hear in the, in, you know, on the backside of the race, there was

some things with audio and stuff and they'll work on that.

They'll improve that.

We had, I noticed that when I got back down to the post-race desk that we had went away

from the cordless to the cord, corded mic.

So I knew that they recognized there must have been an issue because we would be up there

talking and I would, my audio would drop out of my, my earbuds.

And I'm like, I wonder if that's happening on, on the other end for TV, for viewers.

And it must have been, but, you know, just little bugs like that, they'll work out.

But I like TNT's casual approach to it.

And they recognized, I think after their first year or some things they needed to, to change

and they did, and that shows me commitment.

That shows me that they care about it, but they also have an identity and they're not

going to, they're not going to stick to that.

They're, and their identity is, you know, fun, casual, easygoing, not goofy, not hokey,

not corny, but just laid back and just say what you say, feel, say what

you think and come with your opinions.

So I think, you know, almost like doing this podcast, like the, the pre and post-race shows

should feel a lot like you're listening to some guys just chopping up.

Yep.

I'm excited about that.

Marty's going to get more comfortable at what he sort of does a couple of weeks.

He'll start to see.

How was it going to have Marty back?

Good.

He's, he's, I mean, he's one of our friends.

So it's like just hanging out with a buddy.

But I think he'll, as he's like, oh, okay, this is what this is.

I got it.

Oh, this is, oh, this'll be great.

I think the first week he was kind of nervous about how it was going to go and how it was

going to come off.

But I don't get nervous for anymore.

I don't know why.

He's a natural though.

I used to get so nervous, but I don't anymore.

I guess it is.

Well, you know, you're going to get a beard.

Do it.

People like it.

You get to stay.

It just felt loose.

It felt like it was like, like guys that you want to just go have a beer with and talk

racing with is what it felt like.

It'll get better.

One weekend, some weekends, Jeff Burton will be up there.

Jimmy's doing three races.

Burton's doing two.

But that's what they, I think what they want that pre and post race desk to be is very

inside the NBA.

And just like, you know, kind of just chatting it up.

Yeah.

If you got a comment or you want to, oh, what?

I didn't, I don't agree with that.

Or man, I can't believe you said that or damn, that's a hell of a thing.

You know, just come on up there and just talk.

Next question they want to know, what did you remember from your victory at Chicago

in a no five?

Anything special about it?

Yeah.

We took two tires.

We had to pass.

I think Scott Wimmer was driving for Bill Davis and had to hammer down.

My crew chief was Steve Meal.

Steve Meal is a legend in, in this sport.

Now he's worked for, I'm going to miss a few, but he worked for the Petties for a really

long time in the late seventies and early eighties.

And then obviously a lot of people remember him as a big part of Mark Martin's team.

Him, he helped Mark Martin and Roush build that original six car into a, into a winning

program.

And he ended up coming to DEI and he was part of, he was a competition director for DEI.

I got us in a real spot in 2005 and he bailed us out.

He was not, he was not a crew chief anymore.

Didn't really want to be.

He was a competition director.

He was over a big majority of, of the company managing stuff and, and I loved it.

I loved having him in there because I admired him, uh, being over at Roush all those years

and my dad would talk to him and I knew, you know, he was very respected.

So I get to win a race with this guy.

We go to, he's, we, we're in a spot in the season.

We are changing crew chiefs and I said, Hey man, would you do it?

And he's like, I'll do it.

So we go to Chicago and, um, we had a pretty decent car, but late in the race, so we had

a late yellow.

We come down, took two tires.

I don't think we had too many laps on our left.

Gave us a shot and, um, Matt Kenseth, I think had the best car, had run good all day long

and we were able to hold him off to the finish and that was the one bright spot of the year

for us.

And I got to say, I won a race with, with Steve as a, as a crew chief, which not a lot

of people can say.

Awesome.

Yeah.

I think that's a good spot for us to wrap up.

Yeah.

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