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three wide
“Three wide” means three cars are driving next to each other at the same time. It’s risky because there’s less space for anyone to make a mistake.
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checker flag
The “checker flag” is the black-and-white flag shown at the finish line to indicate the end of a race. In NASCAR-style commentary, it’s often used as shorthand for “the race is over” or “we’re coming to the finish.”
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Chevy support
“Chevy support” refers to assistance from a manufacturer-backed program or team aligned with Chevrolet—often in the form of drafting help, strategy coordination, or track position support. In NASCAR, manufacturer/team alliances can influence how much help a driver gets during a race.
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finishing position
“Finishing position” is the order in which cars cross the finish line, and it directly affects points and standings in many racing series. The speaker is arguing that competitor behavior and race-week performance can change where you end up.
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standings
“Standings” are the points-based rankings of drivers (and sometimes teams) over a season. The speaker is comparing decisions based on how they affect a driver’s position in the standings.
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turn four
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Big shout out Christopher Bell. We got off. You know my relationship with
Christopher and Chase and Chase you know they they started out rocky but we
squashed the beef. I actually didn't know why we had beef. You didn't realize you
had beef with Christopher. I knew why I had beef with you because you were in
the first two races we ever ran. But you know what all bad things come to an end
and look at us now. We're as thick as thieves. Ricky and Cal. Yeah I'm definitely
probably Ricky with the Kevin Magnuson stuff. Oh yeah you really were. Yeah I
still can't believe you didn't throw a punch. Dude I went to dinner the night
before. I know you're talking about fighting people and you're like I'll
take on anybody. I was but I'm trying to get a job next year. Yeah that checks out.
I thought there's a lot more consequences than just the monetary fine if I
were to do that. That was probably a good decision I'm proud of you. But can we
talk about dropped anything. I don't know but I guess we'll never know unless we
do around to set it up. All right. And the best the best is the DMS from. Yeah
what's F1 like bad Twitter like. Oh dude they come out of the woodworks and it's
always guys with like like zero post and they're just Europeans and they're like
you fat wanker you suck at driving. I'm like that sounds like my crew chief. Well
if we if we both if I ran with him for 30th then we both kind of suck right. If
he was running around me yeah don't we both kind of suck. Yeah that would check
out. But that was when he hit me going into the corner that was a 14 G hit. So
what I don't what even happened. I saw like some clips online but I don't really
understand why it escalated to that. Well I was just I just get frustrated when
they barreled off the inside. There's nothing worse at the road courses on lap
two. It's like we can all do that. But you know what I'm over it now. Yeah it's it
was frustrating probably more frustrated our overall situation this year and how
tough it's been on the racetrack just every week but at the same time you know
I let my frustrations get the best of me and we'll move on. It is what it is. It's
a new day. Sun will rise. New day. New day. Well Atlanta so you didn't have a good
day. I didn't have a good day. But I beat you and I got straight away by the
66 beat me. The rain delay though was fun. We got to you know after the
rain delay. We're all talking but yeah during the rain delay. Can you. Oh my
gosh. I thought that Twitter was completely but so Chase and I were hanging
out during the rain delay. Yeah. And how long was it. Two hours. Two hours. We were
playing college football on the Xbox. Yeah. Chase beat me. Two games. I beat him
once. Yeah. And then we checked to see if it was raining. We go outside and carry
Earnhardt and Figgie. And we're walking by. And I could not believe how tall. It
was crazy. Figgie was. So I had met Figgie one time when it would have been
2016 doing the Arca stuff. I want to say Bobby Dale was running the Arca race and
I just like literally met him. Didn't really truthfully even know who it was.
But yeah then the other day saw Cary and yeah it was crazy how much taller Figgie
is. I know. Dale short. Cary's kind of I guess in the middle. Cary's not that tall.
But you always used to hear. I never met Dale senior but you always used to hear
about how big of a stature that guy had. Well he was bigger than life. You know and
you talk to everybody man back when I was in the sport we were in Daytona for two
weeks and Dale came up and he had that big old paw. That's what everybody says you
know. That big paw. He would make this can look like it was six ounces. Yeah. I mean
you just hear he was bigger than life and what would you say is probably Figgie was
probably 62 How tall are you. I'm six foot. He was a touch taller than me.
Yeah because I'm only 53 so. It looks like you're 53 right now.
Yeah this chair's broken. They gave me a faulty chair. We did not give you a faulty chair.
On the show. Jamie pull that up. Anyways it was. Figgie's hands though. That'd be a great
time to raise your chair up. When he shook my hand he had those contractor hands.
Yeah he's building those hands. He's building those with Kerry. Kerry.
That's pretty cool. I don't know why he never really came around but nice guy.
Maybe super nice. Yeah. Didn't look anything like Dale though. No. Nothing like Dale. Nothing.
The curly hair. I can't believe it. He doesn't look like Dale. Yeah. I can't say anything about that.
So that was pretty cool to be able to meet Figgie. Obviously we know Kerry really well.
And I was surprised you never met Figgie when you raced here.
He just never came around here. Like people talk about it here at junior motorsports like all the
time and I guess it just wasn't really a huge topic like it was just Dale's half brother. Yeah.
You know. Hey all this is Drone with Tiff Davis. Our new week's podcast is out now on Dirty Mo
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Till next time. Adios.
When did you just really realize that that it wasn't just kind of a side project and to venture
bigger into Dirty Mo and the download specifically. When we started having spinoff shows.
You know you did one. Do you remember yours. Fastlane family. Yep. Fastlane family. Fastlane
family with Kelly. Kelly Earnhardt. And that was door bumper clear was actually our first
spinoff show in year two. We actually had five. What year are we talking. Let's see. I think this
is 2013 is when I believe we started the Dell junior download 2014. We started a couple other
podcasts. I think actually 2015 we started door bumper clear. And it was again just taking no money.
Not even a business plan and just but it was just a content plan. It was just how do we generate
content. We would later make it a business plan. And so the answer to your question is we didn't
know that it was more than a side project till much later but we could produce shows in-house
and tell stories authentically and you know and standing on opinions and getting perspectives
from different people that are in the sport. And it felt good. It felt good to hear what the
spotters had to say. And it felt good to hear and Dell junior now is by the way he's now leaving
his thoughts in his phone and sending me a voice memo. And so now we got Dell junior sitting at
home after a long race weekend sitting there in the bar. You can hear Buffalo in the background
or a dog barking or whatever. And it was like you know it's Dell junior here and now he's giving
us this little bit of information which is huge. I don't think we can actually overstate how important
that was because I never once and you know this I never once asked Dell to be a part of it. That
was never the plan. It was for us to be able to give the Dell junior fans an exclusive the most
transparent look into his races in his life. And I'll lean more into the races because we weren't
really unpacking his life at all. It was the races and that was the plan. And then as we started
building shows we started taking some ambitious swings at some different ideas. But none of those
were asking Dell my plan. And by the way Taylor and I used to kind of argue about this. He's like
we need to get Dell junior on the show. And I'm like look I'm on the brand team and I'm this Piagra.
I can't go start something that just needs Dell to do it for it to work. So we need to go do this
on our own. So how did that happen? How did it happen to bring Dell and you together? I'll be
curious on how you remember this. My memory of this was when he was going through the concussions.
I hope this is accurate because this is how I'll tell the story when people ask me. But
I remember when the concussion situation was going on and that was over the span of
I mean a year right? Like I remember him missing some races and then they'd come back and you know
he had different accidents. When he started missing races for the first time and we were going to
Pittsburgh. I feel like that was 16. There was a lot of uncertainty on what exactly was going on
even between us and Dell junior wrote the book about it and you know none of us really knew
what was going on. But I do remember that we had a moment where it's like okay we got to explain
to the fans what's going on and so we said oh wait we've got this mechanism. It's the Dell junior
downloaded. We're going to come down here in the studio. We're still in the little closet over there.
We're not in the big room here. And it's like let's Dell he's not the host of the show but
this is the first time that he could get on a microphone and go directly to fans. They can
hear it from him. They don't need Fox to tell him the story. They don't need Clare B. Lang or
anybody else. They just can hear it from Dell himself. That was the idea. That ended up being
way more significant not just for the fans to hear directly from Dell about what's going on
but for Dell to actually understand I felt the significance of the medium. His voice yeah.
Yeah well how his voice carries so much more weight. Like they don't really want to hear
from anybody else. They'll do it if that's the only option. That's all they got right. But to
hear from Dell about what's going on with his brain and his injury and his recovery and Mickey
Collins and that kind of stuff. That episode of the Dell junior download which was like a bonus
episode had significant influence into what came next because then as he starts planning his
retirement and we had that year where he was going to go right out in 2017 and then his interest
in broadcasting was like oh wait let's get some reps because you know talking in a microphone with
cameras and lights on is different than when you're talking on your phone or anything like that. So
that's how I remember it. I don't know do you remember it any differently. Not really. That was
a you know all of the things that and I wish that I had somebody gave me the memory part of DNA
but I Dell got it. I didn't get it. And I think I moved too fast through life and I'm always looking
my my I feel like my expertise and my strengths are looking forward to like what's going to happen
and consequences and always looking forward and what's next and how to you know how to see the
risk and liabilities of what's coming next. And so I don't I'm not always in the present and so
I think that's kind of why I don't have that good memory. But yeah my memory from especially
was a there's were some tough years that the concussion stuff was really tough from a business
person and trying to be his sister at the same time you know so it was a lot to for us all to
wrap our minds around what's happening and what the future looked like and all that.
So then you dive into the Dell Junior download and you co-hosting with Dell and we do this for a
successful and you become like this household name in the sport with your relationship with Dell
and what you're doing. And you know kind of the crux of some of this explanation that I want to get
into as we talk about building Dirty Mo is you know what led you your your your I know this story
because you and I had a lot of conversation about it. But I want the fans to know I want our listeners
to know you know you're the person behind the microphone but you've got this growth happening
you know you talk about these shows that you have with Thorb upper clear and and so on and so
forth and you've got this growth happening. So what is perpetuating in your mind that you're
thinking oh and I know you try to do this so many a time you try to have this conversation with Dell
a many a time myself coming off the download. But what finally was you know that that point where
you made that decision and why you step back it was a while left the process yeah yeah as the
co-host because that was that was pivotal. I mean you you know Dell enjoyed that very much so with
you. Okay. It was a big decision. It was a big decision for me. Okay. That was a lot to it I know
it was a lot to it. Well the short answer is it was time. Now the the question is is why was it
time. What's going on in the background. Right. And that requires us to start peeling back some
layers. So and I honestly I don't I don't know if I've actually talked about this a whole lot
in terms of the layers that you have to peel back. So I'll see if I can make a go at it. You
can tell me if you think I'm full of it or not. So it was time. Now the reason it was time is
probably because you have to take this part into account. I never really started doing
this to be on the show. Okay. If you go back to 2013 when it was just Taylor and I
I was producing it hosting it editing reaction theater clip. I was doing it all. Why I didn't
have anybody else to do it. Right. I had Taylor who was the only professional thing we had in
that operation. I had Dustin Lee at Hammerhead was going to edit it but like in terms of the prep
and the editing reaction theater calls I'm like I'm just you were it it was not going to get off
the ground and I was not really good and this is this is a fault of mine that it's had to develop.
I was not very good at taking a vision and in executing it or articulating it to people around
me to that to be successfully executed. I didn't know how to do that which is weird for a communications
guy. Right. Like a communications guy ought to be able to communicate. But I did not know how to
say hey here's how we're going to go execute this vision. I just knew all I knew is just to do it all
and I killed myself that entire first year. I mean like to be honest with you we taped on Mondays
and we the race would end on Sunday. So I would be up all night Sunday night editing and prepping
and then go in at nine o'clock in the morning to Hammerhead and then go tape the show. I was
exhausted and no sleep. Now you talk about me leaving the download but I actually left it.
That was the second time I left the download when Dale came on and and I even forget this part.
I didn't actually host the download for the first year. It was it was when Dale took over. It was
him and Tyler Overstreet and Tyler was a producer again. We're a lean operation. Right. We're a
lean to come back on because again as he's sort of finding his voice and where he is his strengths
are having you know the relationship that he and I had for all those years I think that there was
there was something there that he wanted to rely on. Maybe it was a comfort zone maybe whatever it is
you know and better than I do. So like whatever he likes to be surrounded by you know his people
and Tyler was one but Tyler's also producing the show. Yeah. So so I did come back. I don't
even remember what year that was frankly but then so now I'm in for the long haul and then yes so
going back to this my point on this was I never really was I didn't start these things so that I
could be on camera. That's number one. You can't miss that part because that that plays into the
next of it. I don't know how many years Dale and I hosted the download together but it it felt like
it ran its course for me. Things that weren't things that were small felt big
things that were inconsequential felt like significant consequences like things that
that maybe just they weren't a big deal but now they're big deals because you're just not you're
not happy and so I think that the the company growing and also all the other shows and the
pressure and all that stuff all of a sudden started mounting for me and next thing you know
I don't look like I'm looking at Dale across the table and I'm like I don't I don't feel like we're
having a whole lot of fun right. What's more my strong suit is not to unpack a race and the
Dale Jr. download had really evolved into being a real good Dale Jr unpacking races it still is to
this day so so again I just don't I just felt like I wasn't at my strength there I would rather
go back and build the company and run there was a lot of things happening for us
and it just was too much to try to do it all especially for something that I wasn't really
keen on doing in the first place. Alright don't forget about stopping by the online merch store
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Also coming to the the checker flag here in that three wide Carson Hosebar in the middle
didn't receive any help is that because no Chevy support or no Carson Hosebar support?
Um I'm not really sure on that I um I I think it's probably
combination of both really but I mean as a competitor I mean I just I agree a lot with
what how like Burton and Jamie kind of broke it down is that um you you don't race the fans you
race your competitors and there's more of them than there are you and uh the competitors definitely
play a big role in your how you finish on a week week to week basis and so I certainly think that
you know while it it may sound good in an interview when you come down to the end of the race
those words sometimes can can hurt your uh your finishing position. I was gonna say you can't
tell the drivers if you want a war bring it and then expect them to help you out on the race track
and then also I don't know if Bell was thinking this but pushing Blaney is the better decision for
him in the standings versus person pushing Hosebar too when you look at where Bell sits.
Yeah yeah I at the time I think that Bell Bell's always gonna make whatever decision
thinks is going to give him the best finishing position. I don't know that I would find it
really really hard to do to where split second off a turn four where you have a choice to me
and I think some maybe some drivers can do this but like I'm just figuring out which car
has the momentum that is going to allow me to get by whoever he's racing um but I also
I mean there are there are drivers and there was drivers in our meeting today that says no
matter what they will not push Carson Hosebar to a victory absolutely not they'll push anyone else
so I mean that you know when you when you say those things you you just it's it you certainly
it it's what were you saying we can't you can't disrespect them on and off the track
you know that's what Dale that's what Jeff Burton was saying so well was that yeah
Dale Earnhardt first of all was winning a lot of races um but he would at least come to you
with some man I'm sorry about that you know he made you believe that you guys were were friends
and he'd he'd help you get over it you know what I mean um and then you know and and if you look at
kind of look at the I kinseth and legano thing and legano had a great interview
this past week where he talked about you know what would you do different he's like man just how I
would have handled it you know off the racetrack and I believe I believe that a thousand percent
that had he just went to kinseth and said hey man here's my side this is this is why I did that
but instead he had the attitude of oh oh well and kinseth said okay okay then and and he ended
his championship hope so it's um this sport is is it's just one of those things where um you don't
have to have a lot of friends but but you definitely can't have a lot of enemies and and I just I think
about the greats of our sport all the great there's never been a great of our sport that has not been
respected by his peers there's never been and I think that um you know I think that that is a
that is certainly a category that is is lacking and um you know what's what's good for clicks is not
always what's good for competition and you know there'll be a time when that that eventually starts
to get realized well when I went to granny and popo's house I always like playing in her jewelry
or asking her to like let us play in her jewelry she's got funnest bracelets and things so we should
go to church with them as well and so she always used to sit next to us and she'd bring little
snacks like she had a little bag of vitamin c drops which we know are not medicinal they're
basically just candy and then she'd um she always had bracelets on and so we'd like play with her
bracelets in church and her little vitamin c drops so she always had she was always festive and fun
um and then uh nana and granddaddy's house I used to like to bake so she would let us get in the
kitchen and and make pies and all kinds of things and she taught us how to do it and let us make a
mess and um we were just free free to be over there so it was always fun free to be
she loved like she but no she knew we were kids and we were gonna make a mess
and she was okay with that yeah what about you so um I at Teresa's parents house her brother
mark I believe uh was his name had a bad ass collection of Archie and Jughead
cartoon comics cartoon comics was a car based comic book
and I and he wasn't so nice to let me this little punk kid come in there and look and
read all of them he had a library collection just insane and I think about that all the time
but uh how do you just let you play yeah he never complained I mean if I was him I would have been
like you know no don't touch my stuff yeah but um I wonder where that collection is all the time
I'm because it was so cool but um I'm trying to resist yours not to create models oh but yeah
so um let me do the cards Amy I've been thinking about it already
oh my gosh so um the uh the thing that I like to do at Mamal Earnhardt's house was she had a bunch
of trophies and models and magazines racing racing racing and so old photos so just and I would
I would wonder she had this crawl space under her house and it was dug out into the earth
Ralph Earnhardt would go under there and there would be little cams and cranks and heads and
engine parts under there he hid the stuff under the house yes and it was sort of freaking cool
because why would he do that well that's just where he stored some of the okay he dug under the house
into the crawl space dug down into the ground like feet crevice it out for these alleyways
and the actual level ground was the shelf so like he walked through these little hallways that he dug
and on on the ground level was all his little parts and stuff that's crazy yeah I've never been told
that story before we can go down there I'll show it to you oh it's still could go out like that oh
yeah I ain't getting under there that's where Dale keeps his trading cards yeah that's where they are
oh you guys and uh yeah it's around another house so I didn't know that I used to yeah I mean
he had a shop at the backyard you know like he had space I just nosed around and everything
you know at Memmall's house it was always some something hiding somewhere she had an upstairs
she still does Memmall had an upstairs area that she rented out they rented it to families
tons of people are my cousins lived up there and so there's this entire living quarters upstairs
in their house it's like a time capsule when you go up there oh yeah it's like going back to the 50s
the bathroom tile is the bathroom so all the pictures up there are crazy so there's
everywhere up there and just know you know even today I could go up there and just piddling around
looking looking at stuff for yeah after she passed away we went up and yeah or even when she's alive
we go upstairs just to see what it looked like yeah every time you went up there you found something
there yeah yeah I found from last time I was there I found an old record player dresser you
know those big box furniture pieces they're like you know four by four foot or you know they were
kind of like yeah they're long and they're it's just for a record player you know and um I wanted to
kind of restore it but haven't gotten around to it but that'd be kind of fun that is fun so at
random profiles too they have a player piano that's really old and that was the other favorite
thing to do over there is to put the scrolls in like the old paper scrolls you know to put those
in and we've had so many good fun memories nice just like singing and dancing and loudly right by
our house where me and Amy live in in North Carolina there used to be an old house that was
abandoned and literally you could we would sneak in there at night I mean I'm talking just even
10 years ago we'd get drunk down to Sloan and go hey y'all want to go see the the abandoned house
oh yeah okay let's walk up there we'd and you could go in there and I mean just
clothes still in the closet furniture still in the living room oh lord you remember that I didn't
go you never went no bulls*** no y'all you staying off the chips too and I would be in bed already
oh my gosh you always did that stuff after I went to sleep yeah well you could go up in this house
and they had they had the same thing up there like one of them big furniture style pieces
that was a record player and um then they but they ended up tearing that house down but uh
you you were just mischievous your entire life I'm nosy I'm a wonder I mean if there's a graveyard
down the road or any I'm gonna want I want to get scared out of me yeah so we'd go somewhere to try
to get spooked we need to do that in Charleston because we're some really cool sanitary oh yeah
oh yeah but I mean remember in my 20s when I'd go down to rural beach and stuff and
hanging out with friends down there we'd drink Boone's farm and be like hey man let's go to the
cemetery let's go sit in the cemetery let's go to the cemetery and walk around oh my god
I don't know why I like it too I think that's fun I don't know why it's fun but
you just go in there and just sit around hang out and drink and yeah get a little spook spook
yourself yeah all right that was another episode of The Dirty Thirty presented by Arby's new
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About this episode
The Dale Jr. Download swings from on-track intensity to behind-the-scenes storytelling. Dale Jr. recalls a collision described as “a 14 G hit,” then shifts to rain-delay downtime and meeting Earnhardt and Figgie. The conversation also traces how the show evolved during Dale Jr.’s concussion period—when fans could “hear it from Dell himself”—and how spinoffs like Door Bumper Clear came later. Strategy talk follows, plus a childhood memory of Ralph Earnhardt’s crawl space hiding engine parts.
Original notes
Welcome back to the Dirty Thirty — where all you need is 30 mins to turn your week around. We had guest hosts, Mike's return to the mic, and a ton to unpack from our slate of shows.
Noah Gragson & Chase Briscoe took over the Download and left a lasting impression, to say the least. They talked about how they became friends and the celebrity they couldn't believe they met in the infield at Atlanta.
After that, Mike Davis and Kelley Earnhardt Miller discuss the origin of the Dale Jr. Download, Dale joining the show, and why Mike felt it was time to leave.
During Actions Detrimental with Denny Hamlin, DH talks about the field's sentiment towards Hocevar and why he might not have gotten a push coming to the finish.
And lastly, Dale reveals what his grandfather, Ralph Earnhardt, had underneath his house in Kannapolis.
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