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Hello, welcome to the Fast and the Curious Gold.

Thank you, that was very good.

This is a celebration of some of our favorite moments from the last three seasons, but this

episode is including, well, it's just the last season gone because this driver was only featured

in this last season.

I'm Betty Glover.

This is Christian Hugo.

And I loved speaking to this driver because he is, well, he's something special.

Everybody has bigged him up.

Everyone says that he has smashed this season, but he's also really funny, isn't he?

He's very funny.

Quite unique aura about him.

He looks sometimes when he walks past me in the panic, he often looks stressed, and he isn't.

He's just got a quite business-like sort of, I'm going from A to B, a bit like my fiance.

He's very much like this.

Like, he's just like, go, go, go.

Isaac has that little bit of an aim about him where he looks in business mode, but

he's funny.

He's a unique character, and he's dealt with the pressure cooker of Red Bull well.

And he obviously, everybody, he came in and people said, this kid looks great, got off

to a disastrous start by crashing on the formation lap in Australia, and I was really

impressed with the way he rallied and recovered from that, really impressed.

And then since then has just shown huge pace and, you know, basically got the

better of Lawson.

You know, Lawson finished the season on 38 points, Hadjah finished on 51, a really,

really solid season for me, as at Hadjah, more than solid impressive, and he deserves

this promotion.

And I'm, it's one of the things I'm most excited for in 26 to see Hadjah in the

Red Bull.

Well, I was going to say, he's had an impressive season this year, but next

season is where he is really going to be tested.

He has got a big season ahead of him, hasn't he?

Do you think he's going to handle it well?

I do, because all these drivers, your ghastly albons, Sonoda's, all these

people have tried and Lawson and failed and give you up before that, you

know, in the, in the second Red Bull seat, Hadjah's got an advantage for

two reasons.

Number one, he's coming in at the start of a brand new rule set, so we'll be

learning together.

Number two, I think there's more of a belief about Hadjah within the Red

Bull camp than perhaps there has been other drivers.

But number three, the departure that we got at the end of 2025 of Helmut

Marco, the departure of Christian Horner in the middle of the season, it

is a new era at Red Bull.

And hopefully it's an era where drivers won't feel they're in a

pressure cooker so much.

It was brutal for those drivers and very few survived it, very few.

Those that did have success there were really, really special.

So what I hope for Isaac this year in this new era run by Laurent

Meckies is a bit more of an arm around the shoulder approach.

And I think they need to say to him, you've got time here, kid.

Go out, you know, might not make mistakes.

You know, Max is Max.

It's going to be tricky to get used to the new cars, but you've got

time.

And I think maybe he'll perform a bit better with an arm around the

shoulder approach.

And you've got time attitude rather than a deliver now or you're out.

And I think maybe in a post Marco Horner world, we might get that from Red Bull.

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somebody like Max Verstappen.

I think this could be brilliant for Isaac Hadjah.

Anyway, on that note, this is Isaac Hadjah on the Fast and the

Curious September 2025 Isaac has joined us enjoying some sort of

of yogurt, I think.

Is it a yogurt, Isaac?

Mm-hmm.

This is a mate.

Oh, it looks lovely.

Isaac.

Hello.

I'm Christian.

This is Betty.

Welcome to the Fast and the Curious.

Are you enjoying your yogurt?

Yeah.

I am.

So, Christian, one sec.

The man needs to eat his yogurt.

We can't start yet.

Wait, wait, one sec.

Okay.

I've never seen anyone eat a yogurt so fast in my life.

Also getting every last bit out of the yogurt pot.

It's like precision yogurt eating from a Formula One driver.

I'm going to extract every bit I can from this yogurt.

Always maximising.

Always maximising potential.

I love it.

Isaac, welcome to the Fast and the Curious.

Thank you.

Thanks for the invite.

Thanks for having me.

It's a pleasure.

Isaac, we have a Formula One podcast.

We've been going for a few years now.

We're lucky enough to speak to a lot of the drivers.

And we'd just like to get to know you guys,

have a little bit of a chat with you,

get to know your personality

and how much you've enjoyed the sport.

And it just seems like you're having a really lovely time

at the moment.

Would that be true?

Yeah, I really enjoy my F1 life so far.

It's very cool, honestly.

It's everything I ever wanted.

So I'm making the most of it.

You really are making the most of it.

We'll talk about that in a sec.

But first, I'm not sure if you're totally aware about this,

but there is fierce debate around the Paddock and online

about how you say your name Isaac.

Is it Isaac or Isaac?

Now, people are passionate about their views either way.

So how do you want to be called?

Honestly, I know my name is Isaac.

Isaac?

That's how I've been called my whole life.

But you know, I know Isaac is the British way

or English way to say my name.

So when commentators say Isaac

because they are English speakers,

honestly, I don't mind.

No, we'll call you Isaac from now on.

This often happens that people have really fierce opinions on it

and then you ask the person themselves

and they go, I don't really mind either way.

But we've established Isaac.

The second one is Haja or Haja.

Again, you can clear this up for us, Isaac.

Haja.

Haja. Perfect.

There you go.

Whenever this is a debate now, Isaac,

we can put this out and we can hear from the man himself

that this has cleared this up once and for all.

So thank you.

We hope that will settle the internet world of Formula One.

Isaac Haja.

Perfect.

Isaac, you have had a ridiculously good year so far.

Your first season in Formula One.

You've had a podium.

You're consistently in the top 10.

You look like you're having the best time ever.

But one thing that we did want to talk to you about

is that you've also become the first Arabic Formula One driver

and I know you've spoken a little bit about it before

but I just want to know that.

How does that make you feel?

You must feel so proud.

Yeah, it's...

I mean, it's huge to be the first ever

and I really feel like

such a big support as well as

alongside the French people.

I just feel so much more love and attention

from the Middle East people, North Africa.

So I think it's just awesome.

You said at one point nobody wanted to talk about it.

We really wanted to talk about it

because we think it's a really cool thing

and we thought it was really cool that you went out and said it

and sort of made a thing of it

and pushed your neck out to say,

no, I want to talk about this and raise this as a thing.

We thought that was really cool.

Yeah, I think it went a bit under the radar, to be honest.

I felt like it

but it's important to acknowledge my roots

and tell the world about it.

Does it make you feel quite happy

that you could be inspiring a whole group of young people

that are very similar to you, same background as you?

That's wicked.

Yeah, it is.

Especially this young, this early in my career

to be inspiring lots of young kids

who dream of making it to F1.

I'm in a really privileged position to be able to do that

at such a young age.

I think it's awesome.

We can't not get you on the podcast

and not talk about the podium.

I think it might be one of the happiest moments of my life.

You just looked so delighted.

I genuinely put a smile on my face.

You being happy just made me feel so happy.

We've only met a couple of times.

I was like, oh my God, this is just lovely.

How was it?

Being stood up there, knowing what you've worked for,

knowing you've been racing for such a long time

to have that moment of it all coming together,

how was that feeling?

It was quite unreal that day, I remember.

Now it's all gone.

But yeah, on that Sunday,

everything aligned pretty much.

It was definitely my strongest drive

and the car was at its best.

Everything clicked, really.

I didn't expect to have this podium

coming so early in my F1 career,

especially being in a midfield team,

fighting for points every race.

It's very precious.

To be on the podium this early

and doing it the way we did it,

we didn't benefit from chaos ahead.

It was really nearly unmerited.

So yeah, it was sick.

Now that you've had your first Formula One podium,

has it given you a taste for more, Isaac?

Do you want more? Do you want to go bigger and better?

You want to be on the top?

Yeah, it's...

When days like this happen, you're like,

okay, that's actually why I'm doing this.

It's actually the reason I'm driving F1 cars

is to be successful and standing up on the podium.

So yeah, you definitely want more.

I know this is a good start,

but I'm not here to just be around

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Do you enjoy doing that often?

We see a lot of drivers

chilling on yachts and things

and you're hitting stuff.

Do you not at any point

want to stop and have a rest?

Do you guys never seem to stop and move?

My first sport

was never go-karts.

It was judo

when I was four years old

and I did 10 years nearly of that.

So I did 10 years of

judo.

10 years nearly of that.

Every time I'm in Paris

I call my old coach

and I keep training because

it's what I like the most

apart from racing.

In general, martial arts

also keeps you in shape.

It keeps you in shape

but it's also great for your mentality.

Do you do it as a way

from everything?

Yeah, it's good to...

It's like

I'm still very focused

and very competitive

and I'm just basically putting my focus

instead of putting my focus on just racing

24-7 because I can't

live without it

I put it on something else that I really love

so just switches

creates a bit more balance, I would say.

Was there a point where you had to decide

I'm going to be a martial artist

or I'm going to be a racing driver

and what tipped it towards racing?

Nah, to be honest

I think

I always love judo

but the first time I went in a go-kart

I was like this is it

I really

I really want to do that

it clearly was hard

to stop judo, to take it

to push it back

and put it on the side

it was definitely hurting

but yeah, motorsport

I always knew it was my thing

Are you one of those people that just

loves all sports? Because I know you also like

football, right? Are you a PSG fan?

I love football

I'm a PSG fan

but you know, I hate golf

I hate golf

I hate golfing

Oh good, that's refreshing

it's just refreshing because I feel like

all the drivers want to talk about golf

whenever you speak to the likes of Lando

he's the only Formula One driver in history

not to like golf, it's brilliant

Yeah, maybe, maybe I'm the first one

who doesn't like golf, I don't know

so that's refreshing

I bet

Talk to us a little bit about football

I'm not following PSG too closely

are they still winning absolutely everything?

I'm a Leicester City fan, Isaac

so I don't have to follow the Champions League

quite as closely, unfortunately

You had a big win in the Champions League

yesterday

Mm-hmm

Yeah, that was

I mean, to be fair

Liverpool

have a very strong team, Barcelona as well

like this is going to be

I feel like it's going to be

maybe harder than last season

but I think we got it

Yeah, I think you probably do have it

I think you've got it in the bag to be honest

PSG are insane

I watched them during the Club World Cup this summer

and you didn't win that so

We won't talk about that

We were very tired

Mm-hmm

Doesn't count

Yeah, yeah

Doesn't count, fair play

I think a lot of football fans will say Club World Cup doesn't count

What else do you do

away from F1

So I've read

that you can obviously speak French

that's your native language, English

but you can also, you're pretty decent Italian

Is that right?

No, no, no

I can understand Italian pretty well

pretty well, I can

I can

I can order food, you know, I can

find my way but that's, honestly, that's it

It's really natural

No, that counts, you can have that, that counts

I'm thinking if you can understand it

I think that's pretty decent

Yeah

Are you wanting to learn Arabic?

I gave up

on that because

I couldn't

learn it as a kid

so now it's too late

I mean, that's fair enough, you've got a lot on

You're quite busy, I think that's understandable

A bit, I'm slightly busy right now

Something that fascinates me as well

away from the track, Isaac

is manga and anime

Again, we've said you might be the only F1 driver

that doesn't like golf

Are you the only F1 driver who's into this

This has always fascinated me

as someone that's like

I like a lot of Nintendo

and Japanese animation there

This is not, it's a different thing

It's not a million miles away

What is it about that world that fascinates you

Well, how did you fall in love with that?

I love this

I just grew up watching anime

and, you know, it was

every time I was

going back to school there was

Dragon Ball on TV

and I was watching

and

since then, really, I

always loved it

and I still watch

daily animation

Japanese animation, so it's just

something I really enjoy

and I think Yuki is a bit into that

obviously

and he obviously

watches it without subtitles

so it's quite sick

but yeah, that's it

Does anyone else on the grid like anime?

Do you talk about it with any of the other drivers?

Yeah, Yuki

Yuki does

Yuki does a bit

but not as much as I do

but he's a bit into that

obviously

but I expected better from him

to be correct

You expected better from him

Yeah, he needs to be more into it

Who would you say your best mate is on the grid?

Definitely

Pierre and Yuki

I think it's quite straightforward

Yeah

Isaac, our listeners and viewers

were very excited about you coming on

We had loads of questions

We're running short of time

but I want to put a couple to you

This one is from Lins and Phoebes

and it's the question I was really keen to ask you

I think my favourite thing to

ever happen in Formula One

is RB's social media

I don't know what you think about them

but they make

the insta reels, the tiktoks

they make us laugh

so much

so Lins and Phoebes ask how do you feel about being the king

of F1 tiktok

Talk to us about this new life you've got

as a tiktoker and Instagram real star

because RB have just been smashing this

Yeah, it's definitely not an achievement

I wanted to

You know

it's not

what I came for in Formula One

but

at least I'm

as long as I'm successful and I see it's all that matters

so I'm happy

It's an added bonus

Yeah, and you are successful

they're brilliant, I think

I'm a lot older than you Isaac

I'm 34 so the fact that you're doing

very niche things

from the British version of X Factor

from 10 years ago

makes me very happy

but some of these you must have no idea

what you're being asked to say

What's that like?

Like sometimes it's

honestly I'm just trusting my guys

behind the camera because

I have no clue

I have no clue what I'm doing so

yeah

it's

it's quite funny at times

but sometimes like what the hell is going on guys

like sometimes I'm refusing to do stuff

because it's too

just doesn't sound right

Oh please don't refuse

because it's funny just as it's working

our listeners love it and I actually think

with you and Liam the way you bounce off

each other like this I think there's a spin-off career

here I think you two could be hosting like TV

game shows together and that sort of thing

I think there's an entertainment double act

being born here

Mara just one more listener question

before you have to go Mara says what is the

weirdest thought that you have had during

your race Isaac?

I have time to think about a lot of stuff

a lot of stuff

during your race

nothing really stands out most of the time

it's like where

like sometimes even logistic questions

like where am I sleeping the next day

what am I going to eat

what time is my transfer

like stuff like this because

sometimes a race can be very boring

you've got time to think about this driving

where am I sleeping

tomorrow

what am I having for dinner

yeah literally

January

welcome back to the Fast and the Curious it's lovely to see you

lovely to

to be here thanks for having me

it's the first time we've been on the podcast in person

and I don't know

I never know how aware you drivers are

of when you have like a social media moment

I remember exactly

go on tell us what do you remember

I have horrible wifi at that time

yes yes

and I had a yogurt

you see I remember this one

I didn't think you'd remember

actually you know what I kind of forgot about it

and I saw it on my feed

like the interview itself on my feed

so that's how I remember it

it's always

yes it fascinates us that the things that people

we spoke about all sorts of things

and people loved that you were so chill

that you were enjoying your yogurt and

there you were

it was a good yogurt

have you had any more good yogurt since

I think it was Baku was it

I can't remember

Christian

just asked you if you've had any more good yogurt

since

not that's good

this one was memorable

sorry

I'm just telling you

to talk into the mic

apologies for live production

not as good

what's the best food that you've

eaten in your first season on Formula One

is there a track where they serve you great food

Yuki

I think he had this departure

dinner he invited us in

Suzuka

so like V-Carb

and him

so he invited us over

like a very good Wagyu

so yeah he was a great

move from him

that sounds absolutely amazing

and did Yuki pay for it

he paid for it as well

he's a nice man

what a nice thing to do

speaking of which new team this season

new colours not just because

Red Bull have changed their kit into the fancy Ford style blue

how are you feeling about this move to Red Bull

racing then it must be a nice phone call to get

yeah it's

there's worst fun calls

I can tell you that

there's harder calls than that

so yeah it was great

I'm super excited

it's going to be a big big change

and I'm happy to make the switch

how did the phone call go

tell us about it

who exactly called you

did you know what they were going to say

it was really a phone call it was physical

I saw Helmut

we spoke

and he told me

he was saying hi

so it was good news

but I kind of anticipated it

at the time

but still it felt

like a relief

we've obviously had the winter break

we've had a short winter break

but have you had any time to reflect on that first season

because

surely you must have had time to sit back

and go yeah that went well

because you reached the pinnacle

and then not everybody thrives at F1

but you know you did

yeah it's

it's hard to take a step back

to be honest

I kind of like fully disconnected

for like not even a month

but

I kept watching a bit

like what I've been doing

through the 25 season

like all the replays and stuff

to see what I could have done better

so yeah I kept an eye on it

mostly looking at the things that didn't go well

and

trying not to repeat the same mistakes

are you proud of yourself though

proud

no I don't think of

oh come on

no I'm not proud

I'm proud of myself

it's not a feeling I

you can sit there and be a professional sportsman

and go over the things that went wrong

fine but now you're among friends

you're on a relax podcast

you can be proud before then

you've got time before then

you've got a long time

what do you really want to achieve then

you've had your first season

you're now racing with Red Bull

what's the next thing for you

win

win races

like going on a race weekend

and knowing that

I'd be in ballpark to be winning that race

that's what every driver

on the grid wants

for that you need a lot of things to align

I think it could happen this year

it can be

of course if there's a season

we can win it this year

because

no one has a clue about

the performance of their cars

relative to the other teams

but also it can be a very tough one

does that almost scare you in a way

that you're going into a season where you just don't really have

any clue

it's obviously not nice

that you head into the season

and obviously the car is

what it's going to be

right it's nothing like

as a driver I can do to make it better

but

I can make it better through the season

guiding the team

in the right direction hopefully

with Max

so it's the first time for you I'm going to be

in the heart of such a big project

is it a good time to go into Red Bull

because we all know

people have struggled in the second seat at Red Bull

in the last few years you know it's been tricky for people

but you're going in when

it's new for everyone

do you think that helps

massively that's why I consider myself

very lucky

to get the move done now

because the other car is going to be

what it is and I'm used to

change teams every year

in my career in general

I've never stick to the same car

two seasons in a row even

when I stick to the same championship the car changed

so every year for me I know

it's in my approach

it's resetting expectations

and driving the best I can

the car I'm given

are you excited about driving alongside

Max for Stappen

have you got questions you want to ask him

what's your relationship like

it's

very inexperienced

against a very experienced

driver

so we see there's a lot to ask him

I'm going to make sure I make the most of his

skills

to learn

very privileged

is it in any way scary or daunting

because one thing I loved about you last year

is that you just looked like you were having fun

I remember interviewing you after a practice session

and you came and I was like that was great

and it was free practice too

but you still looked like you were loving it

which is great do you just focus on that

or are there any moments where you're like

I've got Max as my teammate that is daunting

how do you balance that

yeah I mean

I've never had a teammate like Max before

and you never will again

yeah exactly so it's

it's a question even I

can't really answer

of course it's

scary in a way because you're like

I'm finally going to see

what's the best

in the world feels like

so to compare myself against

the best at such a young age

it's definitely a challenge

but it's what I've been looking

for my whole career since I started

go-kart so yeah

it's a bit scary but it's

also so exciting

we've got to let you go but just

quickly what's one question

you want to ask Max

maybe like a little bit of a rogue question

is there anything

put you on the spot

it's the first random thing that comes to your head

how to navigate the

roundabout system in Milton Keynes

no I'm pretty good at this one

okay that's good

if I can hop in his jet

great question to ask Max for

to happen

millions of questions

next time you come on the podcast

forget yogurts we're going to check in to see

whether you've got a ride on the jets

forget the on track stuff that's the barometer of success

this season that's what we'll go with

when are you going to ask that

how do you ask that

nice guy come back to Nice with you

something like let's see

let's see if I'll schedule matches

I'll give him a call

I could hop in a ride

it would work

practically

fingers crossed for you

honestly your rise last season

was one of the joys of F1 2025

it was great to watch

so we honestly wish you all the best in this

Red Bull Second C

and I hope you continue to have as much fun as you did last year

it was so fun to watch last year

so keep on entertaining as we loved it last year

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About this episode

Isack Hadjar shares insights into his remarkable debut season in Formula 1, discussing the pressures and expectations of racing for Red Bull. The conversation highlights his unique personality, resilience after a challenging start, and the excitement of being the first Arabic driver in F1. Hadjar reflects on his podium finish and the inspiration he hopes to provide for young fans. The hosts, Betty Glover and Christian Hugo, delve into the dynamics of the Red Bull team and the upcoming season, emphasizing the potential for a supportive environment as he navigates this new chapter.

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Original notes

What a rookie season it was for Isack Hadjar: got on the podium, promoted to the Red Bull team for 2026 as Max Verstappen’s team mate, and TikTok sensation!

Betty and Christian welcomed Isack to the show back in September, one month on from his debut podium, and put your questions to him and got to learn more about the racer’s heritage, name pronunciation, and of course, love for yoghurt.

Each episode on the Fast And The Curious GOLD, we bring you the best chats over our three seasons with all the biggest drivers and names from the sport, shining a light on some of those top moments that you may have missed.

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