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It's Tuesday night here at 98.9 Northwest FM.

It's me, Maddie Jay in studio with Mr Alum Deep Singh online with Rob Zadi Harleys in the background.

I think. I believe too.

There he is, being hand and everything.

David Prince and Mr. Scott Johnson.

How are you fellas? Awesome.

Doing really well. Thanks.

Very good to see you all. Obviously we had the big 500th

with that, which that episode is now up online.

It's been busy. I've been I I was busy recording

it and laughing and giggling to myself.

Out of all the kind, you explained the abuse that came my way. There's a fair amount of use.

It was. It was it was a good time.

We had a good laugh and yeah I had to laugh at all your all your stories and everything. So it was it was really quality

quality, quality listening and and yeah, so so yeah stay tuned for for that if you haven't listened to it yet.

But let's go around the room as first and foremost, how are you guys? We'll start with you, Rob, Rob

and Harley. I should say car updates with

your with you guys. Really not much.

We just went to Nova Gals on Sunday.

Here's a modern mentioned so real nice car which is actually for sale on Marketplace there for you there buddy.

I did see this car. You said that to me and I was

like, oh, couldn't believe so. So we we, we did mention about

this Barra, but it's a W123 turbocharged.

Barry swapped. You know it's engineered as well

and everything, which is pretty cool, wasn't much money, was like 20 grand. 20 grand a year? He's asking.

I was like, that's a lot of car. What is a coop, too?

It's a, it's A123 coupe, so, oh, wow.

So I was like, well, that would be a that would be a bit of a sleeper. Hmm.

All day, all you need, it's just it's nice cruiser and you put your foot down and you beat virtually most things which should be, which should be quite funny.

So yeah, apart from that, I'm looking forward to maybe Matrix this weekend. OK, so that's on at the

Showgrounds. Where else we've?

Just. Been doing a bit of cleaning up

the army workshop, trying to get the my new car prep Bay sorted out so we can start doing the SEC and CE and the old P-76 so I've got it all lined up to get it all done, so that's good.

That's probably the exciting thing from my end.

So you gonna do the prep or is that guy, the guy gonna do it there? Always gonna do all the prep

everything if he's a spray paint panel beater.

Oht Perfect. Yeah, so all the preps gonna

happen. So it's finally going to happen.

So you're gonna do the 76 last is so, so you can get it mechanically, you know, basically.

SEC. Turns out then I'll get the P-76

out and do that and meanwhile I'll basically test fit the the motor into the CE. I've got a bit of rustic cut out

around the battery with a battery tray set within the Bay, so the base. I started cutting out all the

rust so I'm going to patch that. I'm going to clean up the

hollingen Bain repaint engine Bay before I drop in the new engine. So yeah, so there's a bit on,

yeah, in between that sort of just trying to get the laser sorted out too. Indicated the the radiator

panel. Yeah, support panel.

So try to get that done. Laser together as well, which is

almost there. So it's good.

Comment this comment to see that and put mine to shame in terms of the body work was pretty rough.

Well, yeah, we can do something about that.

Maybe one day. No.

One day, one day one once. It's got 500 if you know.

OK, once again, here we go. Once it's got 550,000 keys on it

and then it's, it's the quality got no paint left.

Then I'll be like, you know what?

OK, let's let's do something about that.

Look, it's still running at 502,000 caps.

You owe it to the car. I do, yeah.

I mean, it's got a fresh engine, so it should be, it should be.

It should be good for for the. Next Yeah, I think the real

danger is if Mr Mayor Jay has some weird driving adventures.

Ah, yes, I have had a stuck in that car before and you know, it's it wasn't wasn't fun. So let's hope that doesn't

happen again. Touch wood, touch me.

And yeah, let's, let's keep that car getting to.

I want to get it to 500,000. Becomes a point of pride once

it's passed. You know that 303 fifty point

especially if it's not like commercial vehicle just like how far can I take this Yeah you know like just just having a odometer that has, you know that kind of number on it.

It's just, again, noncommercial because taxis and stuff and trucks, many of them sitting at, you know, crazy numbers.

But sometimes just like a personal, it was like, well, you know, that's some dedication. It's.

It's impressive like I I always think that the laser anywhere I go like drop to work everyday etcetera.

And instead of like why don't you drive the Fiesta.

And I'm like I'm like I do, but like I I've kind of like I put in my head now that I want to get 500,000 K out of the laser.

So I'm driving it everywhere. So it's it's it's quite

literally 300 kids away from 330,000 on the dot.

So it's not far away. So from from not from 500 still

while away from that but from if I give it to 350 by the end of the year, you know I'll be, I'll be in good stead because like you know I do about 25,000 K and that a year.

So would be would be good to get it there and just just keep piling the case on. So that another eight years

before you reach 515? Miles, I think it can be done.

Yeah, it can be done. So.

But anyway, what else? What other cars you been working

on? Well, apart from the me, yeah.

The SEC. The layland the, the 4:30 and

the and no, not much, yeah. Just just just everything at

this point. Yeah, is the transit paving.

The transit basically motor exam I actually I caught up with the car builders who do all the insulation were supply all insulation for the vans and they're going to be at Motorex and they've got like a 1520% discount on some part of some of the stuff. So they said wait until Motorex

to boil you installation. So I'll be buying some more

insulation on the weekend and and finishing the insulation off probably the following week. So that'll be done.

I've done all the veterinary inside all the panels along the the walls and and also insulated the roof.

Once that's done, uh basically I want to start framing out the the actual foldable beds. They're going to be like Murphy

beds that way. I could still get my motorcycle

in there and still use the van as van rather than use it, set it up as a camper. Then you basically limited in

what you can use it for. Yeah.

Yeah, so I I just wanna sort of a bit more flexible in what I use it for, so I can put my motorbike in there on the weekend and go through the dirt bike ride or whatever.

So that's the plan. So no one, no more issues with

it. It's been good.

No more issues with. It's got four and a half, $1000

on it still going alright. I'm driving it as much as I can

just to make sure it doesn't do something funny.

I got a brand new Mach 1 front end on my Mustang.

I saw that looks good. It's like a lot of people like

it. It's it's sort of slightly

understated, but yeah, it's it's a little bit different.

So I quite like it. Apart from that, not really

nothing, nothing else. That's it.

Very good Mr. David Prince. Don't really know where to

start, Maddie, There's a few things going on.

Been playing with the Accord. The 94 Accord I've been managed

to call in talking about high mileage cars.

That's the four 72,000 that's got on at the moment.

It's calling in a few. With that sort of mileage you

don't wanna go investing a huge amount of money, you know, because you will never get it back anyway.

But so called in a few favours. I've got the tintal stripped off

by the one of the tint places I do work for.

I picked up a back cover from a record that I'm in regularly and they took pity on me, gave me the new back cover.

So I've got PowerShot painting that for me.

It gave the interior once over with a product I've known about for years and it's a bit old school, people don't use it much, it's called prestige leather cream.

Comes in about 20 colours I suppose, so I actually mixed used that up, used a couple of bottles of that and mixed up the colour. It's not sort of mid grey

leather being a bit here I just just nothing particularly bad.

Just a little age related Marks and scuffs and stuff.

So I'll give it two or three applications, but I'll tell you after the first application it's just wipes on and wipes off.

Once it's sort of mattered off, dried off a bit it came up a tree. It just would like there's gonna

be lovely in it, which is pretty good for 30 year old car.

So yeah, that's coming along next steps to get a couple of mechanical I was talking to Maddie today and I might actually take it out to our friend at Dandenong, Haycock Harkon. A boy, right?

Ready and getting to just have a look and tell me where to start.

You can. It feels that this case in a way

it drives and rides and few squeaky bushes and stuff but I'm happy to do the stuff that's going to make a difference that I have to do sort of thing but we might go nuts but a lot of that stuff will be available in our favourite American supplier Rock Auto who are shipped to Melbourne and or shipped to Australia and they're they're really reasonable prices.

So yeah, I just need a list of stuff that I need before I can sort of get that in. But they ship really quickly to

Melbourne and yeah I'll have the stuff within a week so that'll be that'll be worth doing. So that's moving along slowly.

We've gotta get that one to 500. Like that's not far off.

It's not far. No, that's right.

In fact, I had a couple of people who do, a couple of people in the club do big mileages every year and he said OHS, I'll take it for a month or so, I'll I'll make it dinging at us. So that may well happen.

Just make sure with the not with the good bar on yet, OK, just.

We don't want to stone chips in the new bar quite.

So quickly, quite yet, quite yet.

So. So yeah, give it to so two

person. Asking around there's a lot of

cars in the club and and maybe you've got you've got 2 / 300,000 yeah there's over 300 but there's quite a few hunters in the club over 400,000 hmm. So it's not that unusual and and

most cars if they looked after properly we'll we'll we'll ask you know but the beauty of a Japanese car particularly is that it will go do those distances with with less work than a lot of other brands I suppose or other cars from different countries. I mean look, look all cars are

you know two 5300 will do bushes.

Like it doesn't matter what brand, what brand it is, but it's it's if you stay on top of it and maintain it, the cars don't degrade, you know, I mean like they they just keep feeling tired and keep going. So yeah, a lot of people don't

realise that, but but we'll cover that in a little bit because. The the biggest killer for a lot

of cars in a lot of climate is just rust and we really don't have that in Australia. So yeah, one of the biggest

benefits we've got, we do have a harsh sun which is used to paint, paint jobs, but. Every Mitsubishi magnet,

everyone. Yeah, it doesn't make the wheels

go around thankfully, so all the all the suspension mounts hold up or anything said. Yeah, correct.

So the only other thing going on in the background and I had great intentions of taking everyone along the journey of importing another car from Japan in the last 10 days.

Now I suppose that's all gone a little bit pear shaped in that the department of infrastructure have actually halted compliance on a range of cars or sorry not compliance in in processing import vehicle import approvals. So there's some dispute over a

new regulation that was brought in around side impact and they've halted the approvals until they get to the bottom of which has qualified, which cars don't.

So some cars are affected, definitely affected, and they're determining whether or not they're going to allow them into the country. Some are dependent upon build

date and some are not affected. Interestingly the ones that

aren't affected are the key tracks.

So if I was going to be involved in an accident in a small Japanese car, OK truck is probably the least likely one I'd wanna be be in. But as I was trying to briefly

before he rang me, he had had an update from the organisation he works for does one of their sister companies does import cars from Japan and they put a hold on all importation and selling of any K cars at the moment until we get resolution.

Is the K truck I guess loophole a situation where because you can class as a commercial, great, get away with?

Yeah, well, that's all we can imagine.

That's all we can imagine. I mean that makes no other

logical sense in any other way. When I brought the first in one

in obviously one thing I knew that a lot of grey imports needed to have engineered into the West side intrusion bars.

But the N1 didn't need them because it had six airbags and that was the thing at the time they said I know that if it's got airbags then it's that you don't need intrusion bars because that's a newer technology.

So at the moment my car is paid for and sitting on a dock in Nagoya waiting for import approval before I can go on a boat. I'm not putting it on the boat

until I haven't import approval, as if I've got any say in all those sorts of things, which I don't.

So I mean, I'm on one level, there's absolutely nothing I can do about it until it it. To me, it's sort of reeks of

some bureaucrat somewhere trying to make a name from self doing something or you know? Justifying.

Tweetable, tweetable, tweet that you can say, look what I'm doing in protecting the lives of hundreds of thousands of Australian people. We're not really.

I mean you just gotta look at them.

If I if I didn't want to drive K car, I'll go buy a Volvo or A and I BMW or a salad or something, you know and obviously there's a basic law of physics at play and that if you get hit by something much bigger than you know gonna come off second best. But I don't want to be told that

I can't have one. I mean, where do motorbikes

fitting with that? Exactly.

If you're allowing motorbikes on the road and they can just basically be turned into, you know, tomato paste.

All over the top of carts. Technically, you know.

Always. Stop the crash that hurts.

It's the stopping after the crash, isn't it?

That's the that's the part that does the damage.

So. The fact that they're totally

happy with cars getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

Yeah. Which is such a pedestrian

hasn't. Now that's fine, but it's like,

God forbid you drive a small economical car.

Exactly right. There's more environmentally

friendly and cheaper to run and all those things easier on the roads. How about banning Rams and and

GMC's and and and F-150? How about we do that before we

ban K cars? Yeah, the rule of mass comes

into play there as well. Like you know like even if

you're even if you're in like a you know like a like a let's say a a Raptor. OK like like a Ranger Raptor.

You get hit by a ram like a full massive ram like a Julie.

It's still wiping you out like it's there, there's there's, yeah, there's always a bigger fish.

But the for me the this is, this is just this is a bit bit insane because I just feel like someone trying to trying to justify their job. Go ahead to get caught out big

time with their safety all. That yeah you're right Robin.

I don't know if they're if they're freaked out at all if Dianthus cars unsafe you know maybe let's look into this these small cars that we're bringing in you know and that could that could have been the trigger like like really that could have that could have been a reason but but see they were like the fact is that there is already you know in one Rs and stuff on the road here in Australia that you know if it's a really been done and there's what are you gonna do. Hey sorry guys you've got one of

those in Australia. I have to take it off you.

Thank you very much. Like, well, everything's the

same. It appears everything is on the

table Maddie and the email that out to me before from from the the parent company was that there has been discussion around D complying cars Are you kidding?

Yeah. So you know that's an

interesting concept in itself from somebody's gotta pay.

So I'm dealing with Ben J. Spec imports is a bona fide

legend lovely bloke and doing absolutely everything by the book and he's nominated top top secret in Sydney to do the compliance on my car. So Ben said we have you have

done nothing wrong and I've done nothing wrong with acted completely within the the regulations with what we've done so far. So now they've changed moved the

goal posts. So he said that one cancellation

for you is that if this goes completely pear shaped your car is still in Japan. And he said there are lots of

cars on the water and he said there are cars in Australia waiting for compliance, which if they weren't comply, the email actually says it will be just destroyed.

So. Wouldn't you technically get

around it by saying that car is not imported for road or ADR purpose for imported for nugget racing or track I 100%.

And before it was destroyed you'd certainly think OK well we're gonna why not we should start OK class of race cars you know would I talk to young from Nugget nationals and say can we just amend that that entry level point of you know 5 grand and just up a little bit and go from there sort of thing.

But yeah and 100% I mean that's the thing I mean but you know to destroy someone's car it's it's it's like the poor legislation isn't it Like that's that's what it reeks of And and I I've frankly it completely object to that you know like that there's that that that discussion around what they're planning on doing if that's what what's happening but the importers Association we're having a meeting with the department of Infrastructure Monday a week ago and Friday a week ago but as yet nothing's come out. So all we can do at this stage

is watch this space I suppose top secret in Sydney who I spoke to the other day, they said they have 200, that's one compliance Workshop has 250 people at the moment that are affected by it so. So what?

What makes that rule any different for them?

Saying three cars made in the 1990s with no airbags, no side intrusion, no nothing. No ABS, no, you know, no

stability control, no nothing. Look, we're going to do

compliance your car because because we think they're just not safe. What's gonna stop them from

doing that? Well, that's where.

That's where you would hope common sense would prevail and they can't do that because I mean.

That's insane. Who's gonna pay for that?

Who's gonna compensate people when they change the rules like that midstream? I mean that's surely can't be an

option if they put an arbitrary date of October 2021 as being the point which some cars are allowed in or not allowed in and then one is on that list. My cars are 2020 build.

So theoretically it's before that cut off.

So all I can think is that October 2021 date was when some of some new safety regulation came in regarding intrusion or something like that that that they they're there is a concern over whether the cars built after that date would actually comply with these regulations. But yeah, as I said, watch this

space we will. I'll keep you posted.

It's interesting too though because like you know insurance will come into this come into this as well.

You know the speaking about mass coming off second best you know like my brother's 80 series he had remember he got a he got a quote to for his insurance and it was it was almost double what he what his Falcon was and he's like why is it so expensive.

They're like it's not because of what all good how old or anything it is. It's because of what your car

can do to other cars in terms of size and then.

Yeah, OK. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah and he was just he was

blown away by by by how they he's like, but it's an old 80 series with about 8 grand like it's not worth nothing and you're charged. You wanna charge Me 2 1/2 grand

a year to insure it? Like yeah, that's just, you

know, and so so, so. Do you get third party, love it,

and then revenant to like the most expensive car you can?

That's the way to do it. Is it really?

That will teach him that'll. Teach.

That'll learn, ya. Yeah.

So but you know, if if that's, if that's happening with that, then your Kaka comes in be like ooh, look, sorry, we're not we're not going to ensure that because you know, it's just, you know it, it's not really going to comply.

But having said that though, like can you see as you you physically own the car paid for, can you still bring that in a year's time? Let's just say like

hypothetically as a personal import because you've had it for a year. If I if I moved to Japan and

lived there for a year. OK, so we can't get.

Right. I don't see negative in that.

I'm just saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's possibility, you know. Cause I don't.

I don't think I don't. Think could be Japan

correspondent for Car Talk. That would be.

That would be awesome. Well, well, David, if I if my

plan, I'll speak to the guy today about, you know, teaching in Japan next year. I might I might need a car to

drive around in. I can.

I can put it in my name and drive it for a year.

How many cars can you do that to like at the same time?

I buy everything. Yeah, like by 5 cars.

Like this is my fleet in Japan could imagine people.

It's one per person. That would be so cool, Maddie,

And at the same time, it would be the most horrifyingly difficult experience. OHS.

You think you're driving my car all around Japan and?

I I'd I'd feel super excited, but also super nervous.

I'm like, like anything happens. David Prince's gonna kill me.

But but look, you know that there's there's there's a chance, David. There's a chance.

There's a chance. OK, what's this space?

What's this space? Well, yeah, dude, I honestly, I

don't. I can't believe that.

I think. I think that's an utter, utter

shambles. You know, the people just trying

to justify their jobs. It's ridiculous.

It's just like it's just like saying you can't you can't put a car on, you know that's older than 25 years on a club plate anymore because you know we we feel like cars that should be on club place should be historically over 50.

You know like it's just it's just moving the goal posts from here to here to make it difficult for other people when when I've done nothing wrong and it's within the law and then they just like hang on a minute, we're changing this And yeah, for me it's just sound it just sounds like people justifying their jobs. But anyway.

Department of Infrastructure, if you're listening, we do love you guys. We know it's not it's not you,

it's us. But please let us have our

important. Well, if you do.

Some banking out too much? They might.

They might be monitoring this this podcast.

Well, well, if you guys do, please be kind to 1 David Prince and bring his specific, you know, in one Rs.

You just look at it. It's the cutest.

Thing you've gotta learn it in. Many as, as we called it, they

would. So.

So yeah, just let that one in there.

Anyway, Scotty Doe updates with you, man.

Umm. Nothing too awesome or exciting.

Um, just. I'll be going to the picnic gun

Sunday. I'll make sure the car is all

nice and clean and spiffy. Ready.

For it. So what car are you ringing,

Scotty? The blade will be coming along

to that one. The 31 doesn't have a

transmission. That works. 31 still.

Yep. But it's all sitting there,

ready for a manual spot. But.

You know, just have to get around to that one now, I guess.

I gotta working. But then it can be on the road.

But yeah, get around to that. Yeah, have a huge working bee

come around. Everybody help get it back on

the road. Awesome little bit.

That's pretty much about it. I don't have any other cool.

News. Alum Deep Singh.

I don't think I have any cool news.

Look at the cars just running. That's it.

A little good. Get.

The glove box of the MX5, Yeah. I I do.

I apologise that David. I'll send that to you tonight

hopefully or tomorrow morning, but if somebody does wanna buy it off me, please let me know. What's your at?

Distance of a Kato. Yeah, percent sort you out.

Cause elements of the other aspects.

See or Twitter entry. Two good, good choices.

I like those complete with me. Took the Fiesta for about 450 K

on the Fiesta in the weekend, which was which was a lot of fun. So it's finally hit 7000 K's

after a long after a long time. Halfway to the STR.

Halfway to the STR well and and stuff and stuff was like she's like you. She like I technically drive

this more than you and she does so so I thought that was quite funny. But anyway so yeah hit 7000 K's

so that's going in next month. I've got a book the service in

for that. I haven't done that yet.

Yeah that's pretty much it on my end.

I want to bring out the MR2, probably pick it up tomorrow or the day after and get it ready for Sakura picnic, which is Sunday. And yeah, that's pretty much it

on my end. But look Jim, I wanted to talk

to you guys about a few things that we mentioned some high milers earlier. Obviously Mr. David Prince has

got a Accord with 472 odd thousand K's, my laser 350.

So we're not 35333 or 3:30 but we want to get to 350 by the end of the year and you know and my my two had 330,000 K on that as well. So, so you know, the high

mileage can still get around if they've been maintained, right?

Like that's just that that just happens.

My question to you is if you were after a car, like a cheap car and you didn't care about kays because you know, like you're looking out for a high Mylar that just can that you'd be comfortable buying, what would you be comfortable saying?

Yeah, you know, that'll be fine. I'll just buy one of those.

And, and my instant logic goes to Camry, Yeah, Because, you know, they are, um, you know, the car equivalent of a cockroach where they're quite hard to kill.

But it's something. I mean, we're all esteemed

gentleman, I believe. And you know what?

We're We're men. Have taste.

Just sorry, Manny, on the top of of camera you guys mentioned some kind of dent in the right hand side of the the rear bumper. OHS That's a.

It's a Camry thing, apparently. It's it's a Camry thing.

Yeah, there's this page is on it on Facebook.

Really. Because, well, again, I I was

not aware of it. But now I'm thinking of my dad's

1990 Blue Camry. Yep.

It had one. It just, I remember you guys

talking about it. I think it was at the 500

episode. Yeah.

Yeah. So yeah.

And in the in the in the right, I'm like, wait a minute.

We have that. It's the.

It rings true. Very much rings true.

It's the carry debt. It's the the corner dead.

It's the it's the dent that makes all dents look inferior.

It's the Camry dent. The Camry parking there, that

is. So I'll even in your capable

hands, what cars would you become, would you say?

Yeah, if you look, if I wouldn't care if the car had 400,000 keys on it, it'd sort of be OK. And I'll leave it in your

capable hands. You.

I feel that there is a little caveat to that.

It is very car dependent like I wouldn't buy.

I bought my Rexy at 212,000 and that's probably the upper limit of where I probably buy one just because I know that passed there. You know, things get can get a

bit if he thinks he can get if he a lot earlier.

On Well, apparently you can't leave the driveway without your head gasket blowing. Up.

Yeah, apparently. But so, you know, I just, it

messes my brother-in-law, he's who still has it.

It's at over 300,000 cases. I think it's somewhere near 315,

maybe 320, still going strong. Obviously it needs repairs, but

all cars do. Yeah, so something like that.

I'd say it's probably closer to that 200,000 like something like a Falcon if it was a situation of I need a reliable car and price is the biggest you know, motivating factor.

I would buy an ex taxi with like 700,000 because I know I probably have to do some bushings windscreen, you know.

Yeah. Really mean this.

Yeah. Whatever.

Just about, you know, just let like, yeah, this video is an automatic just like because yeah, yeah, but that that's probably it and you'll still be going for the next 300,000 days or. Something yeah, but like

provided you you you put in like some some super pro Poly bushings with a lifetime warranty in the end you and yeah yeah yeah you're happy with that and um you know you you do your ball joints because Falcon life and then yeah, mechanically they're they're fine. Yeah, like you just the donut in

the middle of the drive shaft will go, but that goes every, you know, $100,000 thousand. Yeah, it'll be like the fifth

time it's been replaced, but like something like a Falcon.

If again, Ross was like the biggest motivator and I could get it for a very good price with high Case No questions asked, I grabbed Falcon. Dude, I remember seeing this

FG6. Not a or anything.

Just the G6X taxi, 850,000 cases and the guy wanted 2 grand.

Yeah, I was like, you know what it'd be?

It'd be engine wise it would be OK, but suspension would be totally shagged. But you know what?

It's a Falcon. They're cheap to fix that you

fix. Yeah.

So, yeah that that I mean and like they do case so and they do case very well. So, yeah, I think that would be,

I think that's that's a good pick.

During a taxi. I was just going to say ring

taxi a couple weeks ago and an FG arrived FG XR6 which I thought was pretty old for taxi. Hmm, when were they?

What? That would have been 20.

FG started alright. OK, OK, well, yeah, that's

pretty old for taxi. I don't know how it managed to

be a taxi, but it was a 1/3 cab. I said wow, this is an old taxi.

He said. Oh, it's good car though.

He he done the deaf transmission.

I thought, well, that sounds familiar.

But yeah that was on 580 or 590 I think be performed great, you know I mean it the the difference supply.

Yeah, it was. Was it a while?

He did so, so and and he he was happy driving it.

He was like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

No. But he was happy with that.

Yeah, yeah. Look, I spoke to, I spoke in a

lot of cases like my my uncle was a cabbie for, you know 20 plus years and he always, he always ran Falcons.

And he's like, you know if you can get away with a noisy diff you know mechanically they're pretty sure you know not much can can eat you know taxi fuel as in gas do everything comfortably and you know you know be cop out of your shifts fresh and then you know gotta get ready for another ready for another go like a Falcon. So yeah and and and it showed

that you know they they owned the they owned the the taxi game for like forever really until kind of they stop making them.

So yeah it was, it's quite a it, it was it's quite interesting to to see that and you and you drove one again David recently with like well the one that has 450. 1440 or something and one

was 441 was 380 I think. Then they were funny.

Echo gets ones. MMM, yeah.

I did a regular check on Dazzle Falcon.

Yeah, which Ed moved along at the auction.

It's still registered. Still registered?

Yeah, still going. There you go, Ashley.

Guessing, Yeah. Well, at 220 litre for regular

petrol, you know gas at 90 cents dollar seems pretty, pretty economical. Dude, I put, I don't know, I

didn't fill up to my car today. I was like, I refused to do it

because it was like $2.50 for 98 and I was like, I'm putting $10

in it and that'll get me to working back and I'm like and then I was like that that is, that is a disgrace.

I should be able to do that. But anyway, Rob, What Car would

you buy if you had to buy something with a heart with high miles that you just get the job done?

I'll keep on knocking my mate with his car.

He's got a Ford Courier, a diesel.

No, yeah. It's got 200 and say at least

70,000 kilometres on it. It's been stolen once, freshed

and it's still going. Yeah, you did have to put

another turbo on it after it got stolen, but apart from that it's runs well, starts well, goes well, Man A.

Courier was the Mazda based one wasn't.

It that's the base one, yeah. And I'm just looking at some of

the cars here on on marketplace, 370,000 kilometres on them 297,000. What about the car you worked on

the weekends? 338,000 K's Toyota Echo.

My dad's cars gotta yeah, he's got a Toyota Echo and it's got 380,138, yeah, 30 odd, 1000 kilometres on it.

Wow. The all the you go for free.

All the rubber bushes are pretty much shot on them.

Obviously they would be at those.

Guys, but I I did did the brakes for them in my something real funny happened to the brakes. Right hand side brake calliper

was pushing the one of the pads on an angle and it actually chamfered the whole brake pad on a like a 25° angle.

More of it right out and what I found, what I found out is no Shim on the actual calliper aligning the actual pad.

So the Shim was a little you know spring steel shims that hold them in place. So looks like that's what caused

the issue with the brakes, but apart from that they can't just starts, goes just keeps on going trouble free.

So it's Toyota. I think Toyota have done a

brilliant job too with the ad that they have with the with the highlight of the ad is the mileage.

Just clicking over is a great old cruiser in the the old, old cocky driving it, you know, just nods, you know, just knowingly, you know, as it turns out, I think 800,000 or 708 hundred thousand cases or something. Yeah, that's really interesting.

The manufacturer trying to sell new cars is actually pushing that, that aspect of the longevity and reliability of their brand. I mean, it's a perfect thing to

hang your hat on as far as getting people to buy the car, but there's going to be a lot less people buying new cars if they're staying in these cars with these huge, huge mileages.

Yeah. It's an interesting kind of kind

of marketing strategy. But like I think I think it will

be effective because it'll be like well they gave Toyotas, you think Toyota, you think reliability right like that that's I don't like and and I I mean I think that with a few from brands but like the one as soon as you say reliability you you you straight away think think Toyota like like it's the first break. It is genuinely the first brand

you think. Of like it's it's hard to beat

the idea that a person is moving to a new car not because they had to because they can't, you know, died on them because they wanted they just want a new experience.

They want a new car and that old car will still go to someone and still continue running. So I think that's that's

probably a great marketing strategy of all.

I remember seeing this advocate yeah, you know they they had, they had Toyota recalling 1992 Toyota Camrys.

Not for anything wrong, but because the driver should have something new by now and I was like, yeah, that's that sounds about right, doesn't it Really sorry.

Yeah. And and that's it's a, it's,

it's, it's a good thing like you know it's especially in a country where you know and and look the predominantly the predominance of predominantly is predominant.

Predominant. Yeah, yeah.

Amount of cars sold here but Toyotas specifically Toyotas in the Bush and in and in and in this you know desert remote areas. Why because the Toyota will get

you home you know and and and they and they and they they you know they hang their you know their their their their their whole marketing strategy on that you know why would you buy a Ranger when you could buy a Hilux.

Why would you buy a you know an Everest when you can buy a Land Cruiser. Land Cruiser.

You know the proven yeah it'll get you home you know so that that they will you know they will you know they will do that every time someone ask me oh you know what's what's a good reliable first car always say like a Corolla or an Echo or if you want something that's cheap and reliable you know Yaris.

Yeah. And and and they're proven like

you know they they will do case. They they, they they do case.

Your friend Julian, he's expecting a baby and they've already got themselves a Honda CRV, which is their main kind of family car. But he said I want to sit down

and I want something safe and reliable and said Cameron, can you camera here? I'm like the new camera got a

bit of a facelift and it's gonna be great on fuel and safe and you know it's got all the features that you would want in an average car. Like it's hard to beat because

he was looking at, I think Mazda sixes.

And those are lovely sedans but they're very pricey.

So like you know for for a you know 2/3 of the cost of what you get the the top spec before you can get the camera and you still love them. And you get everything.

Yeah. And look.

And to be fair, like the new camera is a good looking.

Car. Yeah, Pretty was looking.

And from all accounts, actually improve the way they drive.

And I mean my mom's got a Camry and she's gonna be for a good reason. It's just you turn the key, it

works. You get to where you're going.

You know there's there's you know there is a good reason why cameras are are a good thing and considered that way so so yeah but I I I do find it you know interesting that Toyota is doing that they're like Oh well you know we we make reliable cars so you can keep buying our cars when you're when you're brakes or you know but again you know if people want a reliable car they they will buy they will buy a Toyota and and I think that's you know I think that's a given right.

You, Holly, any holes that you would say, yeah.

You know what I'd buy one of those.

It's it'll be it'll last. Well, it's all mercs.

Old old boy like. Even leaving 8 plus like some of

the classes you know, like. It's.

Not like high mileage, but like I've seen some of them, 400,000 keys on you go see the auction and stuff.

Yeah. And yeah, but this is like

funniest, like story. My friend had a Volkswagen

touring. They almost had 500,000 kids on

it. That would have been a very

expensive $500,000. Like he's paying for the car

three times over. It never had anything wrong with

it. V6V6 petrol Petrol is there is

like normally with petrol, mainly with diesel.

This is a petrol basic. Well that's he chose the right

because they got the VR6 engine right so so so that any everybody that tells that knows them says if you're gonna buy one bike or you buy that one. Yeah.

And they bought it. They bought the car with about

220,000 cases on it in maybe 2010 or something.

And I just thought recently we had almost 400,000 on it and still going here. That's, yeah, that that'll be

that's the the Holy Grail Touareg really isn't it.

Like that is the only one that that would still be going at.

That V10. Well.

I still think it's extremely dumb V10 turbo diesel, but yeah.

That was the R50, wasn't it? The yeah, they had an R50, had

an 50 version, which was like a ridiculously powerful V10 diesel thing. I know God's got one and he was

so happy when he bought it and I'm like and he took it to Alice Springs. I'm like, good luck bro.

Like I don't think you're coming home.

Just got Solomon for 15,000 and he mentions Top Gear TV does show. Did a segment on one Tonga huge

chip 747. Did they did?

I'm like, look, I understand it's a cool thing, but I probably would be selling a second car with that kind of.

That you had the day SG would have been after that.

Well apparently when they did it they they were allowed to put put the brakes on cause it just would have destroyed the whole breaking system. They had to let the car just

come to a stop naturally because they just would just just you should cook the whole car. I thought you were gonna say

that the car stopped and the the 747 were rolled over the.

Top of that is true. That is true.

And that could have happened as well, Scotty.

I don't want to jump back to Toyota again, but I'd probably say Lexus. Hmm, I'd be happy to buy a Lexus

with high keys, even if you've seen on YouTube with the high mileage ISF. Ah, no, haven't seen that.

What did they get up to? Pretty interesting.

It was in miles. It was like over 100,000 miles.

Dude, there's one that's done 800,000 kilometres and it's and and it's fine. Like totally fine.

Good compression and this guy tracks it every weekend.

It's nuts. Yeah, they just thrash it and

uses it daily and everything. And there's been no dramas with

them. Um, other than you.

You're normal. I guess you're normal things,

which is just replacing bushes and stuff.

I think people tend to forget that part.

Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't matter how

great a car is, it's still normal maintenance, wear and tear, everything. There's always wear and tear.

Absolutely, yes. So I was thinking Lexus for

sure. All of them keep going strong.

Almost 400 hundred percent. Oht Yeah, Yeah, they're

absolutely tanks. Yeah.

Like I think it's, you know, if you got the one you said in it.

Started off with brown rich businessmen and drug dealers and stuff. Slowly trickled down their way

to young fellas, You know, trying to look cool.

And you know some old people as well driving them around.

Just like this, by highest case and the highest couple of four 70s, the Land Cruiser version of the early 2000s.

But there's there's no group LS in there 400 and 25402.

So it's 400, four 75. David and Rob, for that matter,

you guys were specifically around the LS400 first came out.

Was that just like a a complete spaceship?

Like what was that just like the the best car you've ever seen in terms of like fit and finish and quality?

They certainly, I think we did in the trade.

They certainly shook things up. Is so well built and so such a

quality, substantial feeling card.

There was a lot of, a lot of, yeah, but it's just a glorified Toyota really well, Yeah, like that's not actually a bad thing, you know, if you've got Toyota reliability in a car, that quality and just the the the way it was built and the way the doors shut and the quality of the interior fitment and stuff.

They were, yeah, they really rocked the rocked the motoring world, I think. It's not like they have been

successful, really, is it? That they're still around but

you so, so David, getting to you now, what would you say?

I wasn't a taxi in Singapore last year that I had done 1.3

million K and it actually had the extra digit.

So it was actually reading, well, look, sitting in the passenger seat and looking across at the insurance and it was nice at night and still the instruments were lit up and I was looking at this row of numbers in the in the Speedo and it didn't make automatically connect that it was the odometer. And I finally said to the guy,

isn't the is this car done over 1,000,000 kilometres?

He said Yep, 1.348 million kilometres or whatever it was.

Still ran perfectly fine. Rd perfectly fine.

And let's not forget Singapores, an island, you know, it's that's a lot of driving around in circles, really.

I. Was gonna ask that like was did

the owner purchase the car new in Singapore or did it come from? Somewhere else?

Yep. No, no.

It was a Singapore delivered car.

It was about 80. They can keep taxis up to 8

years old and it was just it was almost ready to be retired.

So it was a, you know, I don't do codes too well there was a diesel 240D32 was an E Class, that's for sure.

But but yeah, pulled up, I thought, oh, this is an old gloppy, old bins, you know. And then I saw I went through, I

thought, OK, respect, you know? How many loops of the island

that make? Must have just literally been

going the whole time, you know, to cover that sort of mileage in in in that time. But look, I as much as I love

Mohandas, I I, I think you're hard pressed with Toyotas.

I mean, I think Toyotas will do just so many cases if they're if they're looked after properly. But I think the, the

everything's all there. I mean, we had it rammed home

again in Japan, didn't with all those crown comfort.

Texas. Oh my goodness.

With grey case on them, I think one we were in the five of us, without including the driver, the rear Shockers had literally gone out to lunch in that. It was.

It was pretty done, that car, wasn't it?

It was pretty stuffed. But most of them were pretty

good. But I love the durability of

them as well. Like the materials in the

interior and the the vinyls and the fabrics in there, you know that they show next to nowhere at all.

So if the if the when you think that they that parties see are that good in a lot of cars they're not that good already and then you think I want to watch the rest of the stuff that you can't see like I think I think you're hard pressed to I think they win tonight. Yeah like I I remember you

saying like and I think even Thomas said it like the tears felt like 80s sorry 80 series Land Cruiser like you know plastic and which is which is just to keep it hard wearing and really good quality. So like they they just didn't

they did they they didn't feel like they were stuff like they felt quite good. Yeah, I mean that that that big,

that massive K1 that the one we coming back from from Legoland like the rear end felt like it was, it was not connected to the front at all. But the you know it it's still,

it's still, it's still drove and you know still.

Felt drivetrain was completely smooth, like all of them.

Yeah, it changes. You just didn't feel the gear

changes. You just heard the heard the

rebs. It was it as you know silky,

silky, silky straight 6th um. So yeah, I I couldn't, couldn't

agree more. I thought they were.

I thought they were really really good thing.

Really enjoyed enjoyed going in those and asking that one question and getting their reaction or just looking to be like this guy for real when I ask every case this guy discovered Doug, but yeah so so I think I think Toyota is currently winning but if we so if we didn't have to pick a Toyota obviously like we we're looking for other options.

So you said Falcon Rob, would you, would you be in that boat as well or? Yeah, just looking at a G6 CE on

car sales now and it's, you know, $12,000 and it's got 700,000 kilometres on it. Oh yeah.

I think, I think it, I think we should provide a caveat too to our international listeners that we are in Australia here.

So I think probably some of the old BMW's and some of the old Mercedes in Europe, I think when they don't have the the.

Salt on the right. I'm going to say they don't have

the luxury car association with prices and make maintenance and that sort of thing out here. I think I over there it's far

more you know what everyone drives sort of thing and you see some pretty incredible mileages over there, in fact the and the USA of course. And there's a Volvo, P 1800

still holds the record for the most the highest mileage car in the Guinness Book of Records. Yeah, I know I would agree with

you. Like I mean my OK and and just I

know what I'm about to say right now, my MY1W124 I had which which which everybody seems to know that had done well over 500,000. A free car they kept on taking.

They kept on talking and to be fair, look it it it was, yeah, it was tired. But even when he drove it he's

like he's like this kind of drives.

Like they all drive like that. It felt, it still felt good to

drive like it. It didn't, it didn't feel, it

didn't feel tired engine wise was a bit under power because it was just like I'm kind of kind of over life.

But you know it that had done over 400,000 kids and and it was you know it was still going so albeit you know emptying my pockets but still going and so and then my uncle has it and he absolutely loves it. He has and he hasn't had, hasn't

had to spend a dime on it. So I'm like.

Math. Spend all the money once the car

was ready to go. Mess like Alright, move it.

Along get along and then and then he's had no issues which is, which has been quite you know story of my life but.

That is a big determinant and we we do agree that how cheaply you can fix a car will determine how long you I guess you hang on to it because the cars only worth $2000 or something into it you're not putting into it. Like, you know, if the

alternator goes and the alternatives like $700.00

shipped from, you know, Nick or something and it's like, well, I don't know, do I want to put that money in or, you know put something else go on the media, what's the labour looking like?

Whereas with anything that particularly Australian made that salty at the parts were just 100 bucks, you know, 150 bucks. Yeah.

And you know, it's nice and easy.

Like if you if it's that much more expensive to upkeep, you're you're less likely to kind of, you know, upkeep with the car, which is unfortunate. Yeah well when they put the

alternator in the typhoon, like do you want to put inside?

I might like yeah and the alternator cost me just aren't you in a box And for good Bosch one as well and he's like alright. He comes back in about like

literally 10 minutes like you can't done.

I'm like wait already like he's like he's like dude, it's a Falcon twice it's it's it's not hard to do.

OK fair enough. So you know there's going to be

a lot to be said for cars like and simplicity and I think that's what Toyotas just lost. You know their simplicity is is

really really you know it's it's it's keep it simple stupid you know it it it it it it really is with those cars and and you know and that's why they sell so many 79 series because they you know and you know they're they're they're very simple like they they made to last you break them you've replaced the part your mom can do it it's not hard you know and and if you go again so yeah I've yeah big big big ups to Toyota for for doing that Harley said an old was you said an old old old E Class David

Prince you mentioned toys but you didn't have to mention Toyota it's going to be a holder of some description missing.

You're probably a manual arc in any case.

Civic could probably do a million case if you if you looked after it. Yeah, I would agree with that.

Yeah. One thing I'll just say though

too, just thinking as we're talking, one thing that does concern me is that I think cars were built to last more in the past. I think now a lot of cars,

things that when they say the transmission sealed for life and things like that. What's what's the life of that?

They're anticipating that it's sealed for, you know, like, is it? Is it 200,000 K?

Is it a 100? Is it not 500?

I'm guessing? Well, if it's anything like a

BMW radiators and then all the plastics and BMW's, it's yes.

President. After that, things start

breaking down. Yeah, yeah.

Mention cooling systems, all sorts of things.

Side they've they've done it perfectly.

Planned obsolescence. You're lucky to get 10 years out

of a beam. Some of those BMW.

Yeah, but that also shows in the, in the, in the, in the resale like a 10 year old X5 is worth quite literally nothing.

Yeah, it's, it's, it's you know and because people I said well yeah, why would I buy that knowing that it's going to have all these issues. I mean you had that, you had

that KN Rob and unlucky. I bought it with a warranty, but

everything that they say goes wrong with them had gone wrong with it. Dr Shafts, some high vac cooling

systems, gearbox, brakes, what else?

We don't have a little bits and pieces like electronics are playing up. Just you name it, things were

going wrong with it. It was in the mechanic small in

that year that I had it, then I was actually driving it.

Well, hey, Chad, you've just joined us.

How you doing? Hey, guys.

Yes, good. Sorry to be late.

That's alright mate. It's on your record now, Chad.

It's a. That's right.

How many strikes in am I? So Chad, we're talking about if

you had to buy a high Mylar example of a car, you know what would you be comfortable buying and say Oh yeah, I'd, I'd buy that. And I think we pretty much

determined anything. Toyota is pretty, it's pretty

good, Alan said like a like a, you know a Alanna Falcons pretty good. Rob would agree.

And then he also and yeah and Harley said, you know older, older Mercs. Cody, what did you mention again

you said Lexus. Lexus.

Yeah, just Toyota. David Prince said in Ek and Ek

manual would be would would be would be a good choice.

The only problem I have with David's suggestion is that if it's an Ek and it's a manual, it's been boy raced.

He gonna be careful about which which one you you choose.

You'll likely see XI from, you know, Camberwell.

All the old lady that bought the V TIR because she went to the top of the range one and it. Never.

Actually, that's what I prefer, yeah.

Yeah, she like the sunroof and never took her past 3000 RPM because. They felt the VTech.

Never felt the tech come on and and and and the the VTech solenoid just caked up because there's never been used so so chat if you had if you had to recommend like well if if you were looking at and said yeah you know what I if I need if I need something like a million like let's say 300,000 cases what would you buy. You guys covered pretty much all

of them. I think I wanna lean towards

like an older Fiat, but not an Italian built one.

OK, they've got these Fiats built in Turkey.

OK and. These things go forever.

Like people keep fixing them and they've got spare parts and you know, still I think they make spare parts for them.

And yeah, these things are incredible.

And like they just, I mean they, we don't have any here obviously. But those, yeah, those cars over

there, they just, they just drive them until literally the wheels are out. Like there's no panels left.

And yeah I think apart from that you know Africa goes through Mercedes you guys and Mercedes like there's you know tomorrow and sorry the Dutton sorry not ghost through them they drive them yeah forever until again there's like if you guys have seen the sand job episode from you know.

Is it called rental? Was The Grand Tour.

That's right, yeah. You know, there's basically no

panels left on those guys. It's just wheels and a chassis

and they just keep driving them. And yeah, that's really cool.

Also, this is a bit of a side note but I got somehow I ended up on this part of YouTube but it's a it's just an African dude with a GoPro on his head who's like reviewing these cards.

It's honestly fascinating because like these things are like there's a there was like a Mazda 626 for example, right?

Pretty much every part of the interior was like back to the metal. The radiator didn't have a

radiator cap on it. The intake did it.

It was just straight into the throttle body.

It was just like, so ghetto man. It was wild.

Anyway, pretty much anything that that he probably, you know reviews what I would do is obviously they work.

They've they've lived a life. But I mean, I don't think you

can go past like a an A year or BF Falcon.

Yeah, even like an ELAF. Provided the head gasket,

though. On the on those What?

You serious? Yeah.

That's yeah, that's a good choices.

Yeah, absolutely. Gentlemen, I think it's for the

quiz. All righty, we went to the side.

The other side. Just click there Apologise.

I really, I really like the the choices you guys have made today. I think, I think those choices

were were were quite, quite good to get to our listeners.

If there's any in particular that you'd be like, yeah, you know, I agree with that. You can send it through to us on

our on our chat there's a cultural conquest 10 questions plus some bonus questions. You know how it goes.

Question one what is the first? What was the first car that

introduced the first steering angle?

4 wheel steering system? Steering.

With the world's first steering angle Sensing 4 wheels.

Davidson, David. Well, I've gotta put in it her

out for a third Gen prelude 4 wheel steer.

That is absolutely the correct card, Mr Mr. Yeah, I thought you

would deal from 1936 or something.

It was a trick question. Well, I believe from my research

the 31 skyline or R30IN well I think R31 in Japan like they got him before us obviously with the hiker system was first but not the first steering angle sensing this system.

So, so so that that's that that came in the on the on the 3rd Gen probably question 2 Motorweek is a television programme that has been around since what decade.

Alum, the 1990s. Incorrect, David.

David. David.

Ohgi wanna say it's earlier than that.

I wanna say the 60s. Incorrect.

God. Doesn't what I was gonna say.

Yeah, that's what I just said. That's what I wanted to say.

OK, Scotty. 70s. Incorrect.

Rob. Rob.

Please. What was that?

80s? Eighties is absolutely correct.

1981 is when it started, but I'm wrong.

Bonus question, where is this show originated from?

The UK. Incorrect.

David. David.

I think it's the US debate. Yes, it's a Murder Week is

produced by So yeah, the US, USA.

Imagine the roaches they would have been doing in an 81.

They would have been awesome. You know what's good about

what's amazing about Motorway? They show, they do a weekly

retro review where they where they go back to the archives and put up all these old retro reviews of like new cars.

They got like old Civics and old Hondas and all sorts of stuff.

It's it's awesome. It's really, really cool.

And it's the same guy from 1981 to now, it's the same guy as doing it. He's like it's like 150 yeah but

he's he's brilliant I love that guy and he's always he's he's always so excited he's always so excited about cars He he's he's like he's like he's like a new for 2004 is the new you know they've they've they've changed the all these little he's like super excited. I love that.

I think that's really, really cool.

Question three, Why has the new Jeep Grand Cherokee been recalled today? David got in there first.

The wheels fall off. It the wheels are falling off

them, yeah. Oh my God, that's something.

They didn't wait. Does that mean like the whole

hubs coming? Out like like like the wheels

are falling off like like I believe it was was it in regards to the the studs that like the the the tensile or something that just show your hearing shearing.

Yeah. Yeah.

So Jeep, like we want to love you.

We want to really, really like you, Jake.

Like I I think your cousin, I think your cars are really cool, but geez God like make him reliable.

Come on, I have a question. Yes, please.

You may need to add dry either to the wheels fell off well, it wasn't very fun. It was very fun.

It was out of the dealership. Yeah well I think, I think we

had been a guy that that it was it was you robbed.

The told us the story that the guy your mate bought a brand new Range Rover and drove it out of the dealership and and the motor blew up like quite literally down the road as he drove it out And he went back and said said come come come get me, come get your car. Yeah, yeah.

He was actually the one that, like, the customer service Rep and yeah, basically blew up as he drove it out.

Early chair on top of that would have been if they're like, no, that's that's user abuse. Was that a Was that a Jake, Rob?

No, it's a Range Rover. Ohhhhh yeah.

Yeah, yeah. So what we would recommend Range

Rovers with case with the all Range Rovers in general, to be honest push it forward. The Iceman is a car which has

been launched by which company? The.

Asthma is a. Model Iceman.

Iceman as a model. Iceman is a model, yeah.

Chad, I'll take Chad. Chad.

Uh, well, I'm not girly GWM. Incorrect.

I believe Holly had your hand up next.

Minnie. Minnie is correct.

The mini Iceman. Wow.

Ohhhhh. Yeah, I suppose that's so.

Does that replace somewhere between the size of a countryman and a, you know, the Country Club?

In Clubman Countryman, they've got the What was the one that looks like a baseball cap facing backwards or that was the place that was the Paceman. Yeah, not the Iceman.

The Paceman. They've got.

Uh. Called.

The Iceman electric SUV. Yeah, I think.

Yeah, Aceman I. Wasn't the backwards cap was

there? Was that the convertible

counter? Yeah, that's the one.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's a weird looking car. Um, question five, What is

Mustang celebrating this year? Rob.

Rob. 60th anniversary. 60th 60 years of the Ford Mustang.

Well done Scott. Check Robin David on three

apiece. Rob Harley should say Dominic

for fathers Undur, Scott, Chad and Alan.

Yet the score. Come on guys, we're working on

it getting into gear. Bonus question about the

Mustang. What is unique and ultimately

sad about the Ford Mustang Charlie, Chad?

It's the last internal combustion month.

Yeah, I haven't announced that yet, but it's a loss of something. I'll give you .5.

It's a loss of something. OHS.

David. David.

Is it real wheel drive? Yeah, incorrect.

Scott. Scott.

Is that the last of them using the Coyote V8?

Incorrect. I haven't asked that yet.

There's a lost something. Nothing.

Hydraulic. Steering increase, I think.

I think if you guessed at all. No, as a last come with a V8. 9

Correct it is the last Nikon must slash muscle car for sale in the world because Camaro is gone and now the charger charger is gone as well. Which charger is back but has

not not not as like a like a muscle car Question 6 the BMW E30 one eight series was a was a very specialised car with engines of two cylinder choices. What were they or David got in

there just? And that would be a V8 and V12

wouldn't. V and V12 is correct.

David Prince. Bonus question out of the two

engines, the V12 or the V8 which sold more now?

Alan the V12? The V12 is correct.

The V12 sold a lot more actually.

Can comparison bonus bonus question, what was the largest V12 size they offered in in litres ohm?

6.5 litres. Incorrect.

Yeah, in litres. It's got.

Six point. Two incorrect.

Hmm, Ohta stab you gotta go by the badge.

But then they often do things to be out of, out of sequence to the badge. There, still there.

Still called a 50s even though they were bigger than five litre. Yeah, 5.5.

Incorrect. Six later.

Incorrect. We're all take a step 4.6 litre.

That is incorrect. I think that's everybody.

It's 5.6 litres. They offered a 5.6 litre CSL.

So CSI actually question 7. The FIA is an association that

represents the interests of motoring organisations.

What does FIA actually stand for?

Chad, Chad. Federation of something French,

but Federation International automobile something.

Yeah. I'll give it to you.

I'll give it to you it's I'll I'll give it all.

Yeah it's it's but then I see you on Internationale.

Yeah. Dear Leo, Automobile that's

that's a. Is it French or Italian?

I think it's Italian like it's. So she gets from.

His racist. I get the point.

You gotta. Did the Italian thing from

Amazon hand Motion and I was doing the Italian accent.

Me dreaming, Alan. You got people say look

Sicilian. It's where Where's the Where's

the what's it called the the The Godfather You know music playing in the background Question Question 8 Which Pontiac vehicle shares its name with the Japanese car made by Mazda and rebadged as a Ford David. David that that is that is

correct. They're well done.

Bonus question, what was the name of the car.

So it's it's not it's like it was not called the laser in in this in this part of the world they call it something else well. Right, in Japan.

The Bonnie. So they it was called the It's

called the Ford. Instead of laser it was called

the name of the Pontiac. What is the name of that car?

Is it a matrix or something? Incorrect.

It's is it metal? Incorrect.

That's what I was thinking. Can we go over the logic of this

for a second? Just yeah.

So this is a Ford car that we're after the name or is a Pontiac car. They were after the.

Name. So, so it's it's it's a Ford

Laser, right. Yes.

But it was called something that Pontiac called one of their models. I know.

I know what it is. I know it is now.

Yeah, I. Think is the Pontiac laser which

in in America, but that wasn't that wasn't the laser.

No, that was that. Was the Pontiac links?

Wasn't it in in America? They had the Plymouth laser and

they had the they had a link there, but that is not that is incorrect. Wow.

That's, yeah. Hmm, what's probably arguably

the the most known Pontiac of recent times?

Ohe Chad, Chad oht hang on now. I tap out.

I tap out. I was gonna say something.

It's not. Definitely not.

You guys will give up. We're getting nods.

Chad is. Out of curiosity, what were you

gonna say? I was gonna say Fierro, but then

I remember it's not a front wheel drive car.

No, incorrect. So they called the Ford Laser

the Ford Aztec, as in the Pontiac Aztec Ford Aztec.

Wow. Yeah.

So, so the Ford laser shares? That they far cry from the

laser. Cheers moving.

On laser in America was called the Pontiac Aztec.

So no, no, it's. I feel the question was whether

terribly, and we should all get a point for.

That Pontiac vehicle shared a name with a Japanese car made by Mazda and rebounds as the Ford Laser.

What what was that called? It was called the the Ford

Aztec. Anyway, that's that.

We'll, we'll we'll skip over that one.

Shenanigans. Next question is a guess.

The car from the brochure, the blank sedan proves European quality and finish doesn't need to carry any expensive price tag. Indeed, when you consider the

level of performance and luxury offered by blank sedan, the alternatives look rather ordinary.

Here's a genuine European car with a smooth, refined Julie overhead Cam, 16 valve electronic fuel injected 2 litre Zetec engine that develops 97 kilowatts of power at 6000 RPM.

Got. Ford Mondeo.

You are absolutely correct. Tech.

And damn. You, Scotty Zita gave it away.

Well done. They take it away but also

remember the talk. I remember the ads and

everything about it being European quality and everything for that one day. Well done.

Very, very, very good. Next one is the last one is

question 10. It's another brochure question.

The blank marks the beginning of a new era.

Unlike previous seven states in the market, the Blank offers much style as it does space. We are offering the new standard

of driver enjoyment and sophistication.

The Blank is a combination of mark this and much more.

The impressive automotive technology is available with two different models, the Blank and the Blank Luxury.

Both models have a range of standard features like the comfort sophistication which take comfort sophistication to new levels. The Blank and the Blank Luxury

most stylish wood grain panelling, look paddling, climate control, air conditioning, power windows and even the added convenience of eight separate cup holders.

David. David.

Are we talking the Honda Odyssey?

We are talking the Honda. Why do I not say anything?

I was thinking. That you think you you were

thinking. About holders.

The only reason I didn't say is because I thought if there's a Honda Odyssey, David will know what.

David would have already said it.

That's literally what held me back.

Yeah, I was leaning towards the Tarago about that, and there's no luxury badge on the Tarango. And I was gonna say, yeah, it

would have been. There you go.

So. I had Key, Accountable stuck in

my head and I'm like. Fuck you, Carnival, Hit it on

the head. But it was stuck there.

Luxury. Was there a cross live sort of

of that sort as well? Yeah, Grand Voyager.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Sure, Yeah, sure, sure. Yeah.

I know people that still have a grand Voyager that they've got new. Well, they.

Wow, that's amazing though. You're lucky.

Hubcaps on it and everything. It's it's.

I sort of looked at it at Allie couple weeks ago.

I thought, you know that's now. So daggy, it's sort of cool.

It's sort of. Full circle.

It has. It has.

Is it a is it a first Gen Voyager or this update?

Second. You know what are we to school

with? With a girl whose whole family

came in, came in, that came in that Voyager.

It was a white Voyager with black bumpers.

It was it was a miserable vehicle.

But Jesus was dreary. But the yeah, it was reliable.

Like they they never had an issue with it.

So yeah. Yeah.

If there was something that crazy did quite well, it was the Voyager. So that's they did sell quite

well. One of their family members has

worked for Mercedes Benz many, many years and of course they could buy them through Dan Lacrosse so that's why they they got on there and they had, they had twins unexpectedly after another two kids so they ended up with four kids and your mum and dad sort of things. So they needed a multiple seeder

and it was just that's what she could get sort of through the fleet thing and they've they've had it all this time.

Well, there you go. I was going to say, firstly, I

feel really bad for them, but secondly, you know, fair effort and avoid just kind of cruel, kind of corny now.

So yeah, I'll agree with you on that score, Check Alarm, Scotty on one channel 1.5, Rob on and Holly on three.

And tonight's winner on Grand Theft Auto.

Thanks, Mr. David Prince. Well done.

I think it was. Just a quick note, the WR X is

at 340,000. Captured 40,000 cases on the RX,

yeah. Wow.

Right on your STI. No.

Yeah, the the, the directs I had before this STI.

Ohe Wow. 2003 I bought at 212, moved it along I think 260

something. And then my brother in laws,

yeah, 3:40. That's pretty good.

That's really good for exercise. Impressive.

I see what you did there, Chen. Impressive.

Nice it is. Surely are impressive.

Shania Twain would be proud. Anything major gone wrong with

that? Sorry Ellen with the lyrics.

No, no. Like I did have a major bill

where basically. Everything.

Yeah, so when we had the engine out to do the rocker cover gaskets and the Cam seals, I did the clutch as well and the we call it timing belt and stuff. So it's like the one made you

really had personally. But yeah, there's nothing like

catastrophically wrong with the engine itself.

It went really well, that car I I like driving that one.

That was fun. I was a blah blah I was.

It, yeah, the best kind. You know, blah blah STR are

worth more than Hawkeye STI. 'S Yeah.

Yeah. It's that's wild.

Yeah, that's crazy. Anyway, moving on before we

depress ourselves anymore. I just wish I was one of those

people that could, you know, make be happy with the the bug.

I'd be like nobody else is interested.

I'll get a cheap one, but. See, I think the bug is coming

into its own now. I think I actually quite like a

bug guy. Yeah, yeah.

Like, if you want probably the cheapest ski, you're looking at the What's the Gen after the Hawkeye GBS?

Yeah, yeah. Those usually the cheapest right

now. When they came in, the Hatch

working through. The.

Yeah, the the blow by and and and a bug.

Yeah, I'm partial to one of those.

And I'm on those. Yeah, I had a guy.

I had a guy tried to sell me his his.

His Hawkeye Waggon is WRX, really low key, like really nice example. And he's like, man, I've seen a

Gorn, he's like, everyone here comes, look, it says ask, ask me, it's 2.5. He's like, yes, he's like, is

the head gasket going? No Sarah.

So he's like, I can't sell the damn thing.

He's like just buy it. I'm like, no, I don't need it.

I don't need it. I don't want anymore cars.

Well, anyway. I was like I've already.

Had it yesterday. No family.

So what was that? Chad, was this before or after

you had your Subaru? Ohc no, no.

This is like like a couple weeks ago.

Ohk right, well. Yeah, he he's he's he's like,

oh, you seem to take good care of it And then he's like, I like the guys take care. I'm like, mate, I'm, his name is

Liam. Liam.

I'm not buying your car like. So that's a hard sell.

Yeah, so he's like, but why not? And I have to say it's cause

because it's a black car. I said never buy a black car

again after owning one. I was like no, I'm never buying

a black car again because the they're look beautiful when they're clean and two seconds later they are dirty as hell.

I'm never buying a black car again.

But anyway, gentlemen, I think that's podcast.

Yes indeed. 101. 100, you know, Yeah.

Chinqua Chento. About high mileage.

Ohe man 500,000 K on the old girl.

That's a anyway Rob's firefighting.

I've got your I've started doing your your designs so I'll send them through to you before to so you can approve before I put them up on our on our site electricals what else do you do You know Apocalypse. You know, stuff.

Bye, bye. Firefighting.

Yep. Easy guy Holly site managing

will yeah will always be you know be be there with that Chad's deliveries Chad you're you're you're delivering to an area near you sometime soon. That's it, yeah.

The order. That you had said David Prince.

You do a podcast. Oh yes, I do sometimes support a

retro. It's called the The Podcast

where we talk to people about their hours of their lives.

Absolutely good listening, studies, snitches and nothing to stitch on anymore. But Scotties golf?

Tip of the week. Oh yeah, I've got one all about

hitting the wood off the deck. Hmm.

I don't know what that. Means so perfect.

I'm sorry, everyone does come on golf terms there by now is.

It. I'm still going to grip the

shaft Scotty. That's that's, yeah, that's they

clean the balls. Yeah.

I'm still. I'm not.

Hands. Yeah.

Yeah, I'll come around anymore. OHS.

That that, that, that that took a turn anyway.

Sir, Sir, Hitting the back to back.

To wood. Back to wood.

Yeah. A lot of people have trouble

hitting their high irons off the fairway and things like that.

You really get out there and practise hitting your wood off the fairways when you're in that further distance, because even if you do a fairly bad shot with it, it's still got quite a bit of force behind it because it's fair bit of weight.

And that behind it bigger head on it compared to your irons.

You're still going to get quite a bit of distance as opposed to you stuffing up an iron shot. Not going to roll as far.

So just practise doing some of those fairway driver fairway wood hits and um, see how you go.

Because even if you mess up, you're still gonna travel at least 150 metres or more because it's just going to skim and roll for ages. But hey, you never know, you

might get used to it and start smacking them, hitting them even further. Get on it.

There you go. You heard it here first, Elham

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Up Chad also just before we go on so so Chad's here in the car he was talking about. It was at the top of the Tofas

Sahin. Yeah, yeah.

It's. It's a Turkish version based on

the. 17131 Yeah. Wow.

There you go. From like they made a, they made

us sit down the station waggon and then they also made there was an older one. I think it was based on a, I

don't really know, my Fiats OHS, it's like round eye had like round eyes on the front and then square lights in the rear.

Like it was a weird one. And then they had two doors and

four doors as well, Whole whole like world of cars that, you know, we never got. And yeah, really cool.

Fun fact. OK, so the early ones, the ones

based on the 131, the later one is based on the Fiat regata.

There you go. Which we got here.

Yeah, interesting. And the factory in Turkey was

used in the Michael Keaton movie Working Class.

Man, if you've ever seen that, because that was based around him going and managing a car production company and he was just sort of loss of this car. And it took me ages to work out.

Hang on, that's a feat. Production line.

It looks they look like fiats, but it's not nearly you know, and it turned out to be Turkey. That's probably, that's probably

where where Robb's Ford Transit came out of there because that's you know the Turkey production plant.

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