{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"When does clever thinking become cheating?  - The Undercut with Damon Hill and Mark Hughes","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/when-does-clever-thinking-become-cheating-the-undercut-with-damon-hill-and-mark-hughes","audioUrl":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/690251e14013c81f9a0d7ba3/e/698f0661b0cb4fc2fdf9e1f6/media.mp3","description":"People in F1 have long talked about finding ‘the unfair advantage’, but sometimes the line between clever thinking and outright cheating is not easy to see - as Damon Hill and Mark Hughes discuss on the latest episode of The Undercut.The engine compression saga that’s engulfed F1 ahead of the 2026 season is the latest scenario where a team looks to have found a loophole in the F1 regulations - but should Mercedes be congratulated for what is undoubtedly clever engineering or should the FIA always look to curb any advantage that could be said to go against the spirit of the regulations?Mark and Damon discuss this and other 'grey area' scenarios in what is a typically wide-ranging and free-flowing conversation.Get your 7-day free trial to The Race Members' Club on Patreon today and enjoy bonus F1 podcasts and ad-free listening. 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