Selling a beloved 1997 Acura NSX marks a significant transition for host Jay Finning, who reflects on the emotional journey of car ownership and the importance of moving on. He discusses the reasons behind his decision, including the desire for new experiences and the financial considerations of maintaining a classic car. Joined by friend Dwayne Johnson, they reminisce about their early car enthusiast days and the evolution of their automotive tastes. The episode dives deep into the philosophy of car ownership, the joy of experiencing different vehicles, and the bittersweet nature of letting go.
Topics:selling carscar ownership philosophynostalgiafriendship in car cultureexperiencing different vehiclesfinancial considerationsemotional attachmentcar modificationsautomotive memoriesfuture car aspirations
Hard Parking host Jhae Pfenning speaks on show changes that were successful and unsuccessful as well as a big personal change in his life. Long time friend Dwayne Johnson joins to talk about his Porsche 993 and reminisce with Jhae about their car days back in Grand Rapids Michigan. The two also cover some car news regarding Tesla's recall of almost 500,000 vehicles.
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year, I'm your host. Jay Finning, a lot of changes
for 2022, left. A lot of things.
Things in 2021, for instance, last year, around this time, I had about too well. So last year I broke the show up
into two different shows and towards the end of the year, I kind of threw that out the window, and I still did a show every week, but we had the longer society, and culture show where we talk more about things like this.
Most recent episode we've been throwing of gears and gasoline, as he told us about his 44 day, stay in the hospital battling covid. And then we had one called hard
parking the other side of the wheel, which Which was about a 30 minute show where we talked a little bit more cars and a little less society and culture, it was kind of an experimental thing. I don't think it really worked
out too. Well, try to introduce a few new
segments. We had Reds cars of the weird
with mr. Red Goodman.
He was a fellow podcaster, did YouTube life happened, took a break, never came back but hopefully we can get him back on the show this year a couple times.
This was be quarterly just didn't work out.
We had a few other segments random thought of the week which I sprinkled in Rental Car of the week since I don't travel anymore. Basically.
Since early 2020, I just have not been able to provide you guys with a rental car of the week, a segment specifically designed to give a high-level a high-level overview of a car rented. When I was at work, because real
cause for real people right there, not ever the never liked these really cool, high performance vehicles, but maybe I rented a RAV4. Maybe I rented a A Rowdy, a for
something that your normal everyday person would have some interest in kind of learning about, or driving, or hey, when I go on that road trip, maybe I should rent that vehicle.
So there's no longer a dedicated excitement for that.
So when I have the opportunity, I will talk about a car that I have driven. If you have a car that you've
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Now, obviously, when people come in, from out of town and I've got a few of those saved up, but when people come in from out of town, I would love for them to come by the studio, but that's not always the case. But the big elephant in the room
and some people are still questioning whether or not it really happened, but yes, I did sell my NSX.
I sold my NSX to a good friend of mine in December.
And it was time to ring in the new year with some changes, you know. So why did I sell the car?
I sold a car because I had to and by had to there's another or other things that I want in life, there's another vehicle that I want this year and so selling my NSX was one of many items on a checklist that had to happen.
But more than that, It's okay. There's a lot of guys a lot of
people in life, you hold onto these things, you're never going to get rid of for whatever reason.
You hoard things in life. Some of you do it, some of you
have family members who do it, so maybe you have friends and do it, where they won't get rid of anything.
Whether it's clothes toys collectibles or Memoirs birthday cards, Christmas cards beanie babies, but you have to move on in life, you have to move on in life and I think that could have been maybe a lesson. I learned when I was a child
maybe being adopted moved around, none understanding making friends losing friends from moving away or growing up.
You know that you you we don't we don't get forever.
It's one of the things that my cousin told me, when my father passed in 2020, is we don't get forever.
Is that? We don't live forever, we don't
get forever. and so, while we're here, Isn't it better to
experience more things? It's okay to look back and miss
things. It's okay to cherish memories,
some memories are good, some memories are bad.
How many of you wish you can just go back to when you were just a kid and you didn't have any real responsibilities that first job you had? Well, you didn't have any bills,
you didn't make shit, but it didn't matter because you don't have shit to pay for. You look back at those times,
they sucked. But boy were they good in other
ways? In vehicle ownership could be
one of those things and every time I drove a car I was reminded why I was going to eventually sell it because if it's okay to move on and everyone says well you're going to miss it. You're going to regret someone.
I'm not when you make a move like that, you can't have any regrets. You have to be okay with it.
And it's local. And the new owner eventually is
going to change the car up right now.
Looks exactly like I did when I sold it to him last month but he has plans. He's going to make it his own.
I was done with it, I like to reinvent things and it got to that point where in order for me to keep loving it, I would have had to reinvent it and it just would have cost too much money.
You know, there's a reason why I really miss traveling and it's not just for the food that I can eat on my per diem.
The hotel points I can rack up the air miles.
I can rack up because all that comes at a price.
All that comes at a cost. The cost of being away from your
family. All the time.
Sounds like a good idea to you do it every week.
The cost of time. When you commute back and forth
every week, you lose a day. The cost of no paid time off
because you're a contractor, but the reward is you accrue all these Hotel points. You get to experience all these
different things, experience different foods.
Go on a vacation later on with all the points you've accrued through Air Miles. Hotels car rentals.
But that's one of the things is car.
Rentals. I miss driving a different car
every week and it didn't matter the car.
I mean, it did I get to pick my car?
Have status, you could pick your car but it's not like, okay.
I either want that are eight or that.
Ferrari or that Lamborghini that G-Wagon.
It was never anything like that and every once in a while you saw cars that you could rent but you'd have to pay extra for a day. I'm good.
No thanks, but I missed that and I made a post about moving on and I had a few people kind of give me their opinions on it, I didn't make a post because I'm not asking you for your opinions. I'm making a post because I'm
saying goodbye, but I did say it's hard to be a car person.
And only ever only had one cool car.
In my point of that is I want to experience different things.
It's all about experiencing different things.
Went back to the rental car. I wanted a different car.
Every week, I wanted to know if there was a car I may eventually want one day or want to run it again one day or just have the experience of driving something different for a week.
And so there's guys who love cars and this are forever car, I'm never selling this car, I'm keeping this forever.
Some of those guys have three or four cars in the garage and they can afford to do that with me in life, if you want something, you have to give up something, it's a valuable lesson to teach your children. Every time they want that new
toy. We didn't do it with our kids,
but I have friends that do do that and I think it's a valuable lesson to teach. If you want this new toy, you
have to pick one of these other toys to donate to someone else so that they can enjoy that toy and then you get this new toy.
You don't just keep collecting toys unless you just have it like that. But then I question the merits,
I question, how much it may mean to you?
This was my dream car. I wanted it for 20 years.
And when I could finally realistically afford it, I bought one and I've had it for nine years, and four months, it was time to move on, it's okay to move on in life.
In fact, coming up in just a few moments.
I'm going to talk to my good friend, Dwayne Johnson, he's not Dwayne The Rock Johnson that my wife's in love with.
He's one of my first car friends.
When I moved away from Texas in 1999 to Grand Rapids Michigan and we met through, Honda Acura dotnet or Honda tech.com the
forums. Some of you remember, Were the
car forums. So there's, they're still out
there. But today, everybody lives on
like legit social media, everybody communicates in Facebook, Facebook groups, Instagram, DM, spms, whatever the case But back then, there really wasn't that it was all internet. So it's like hey I'm moving to a
new state, anybody up there and people know you.
Yeah yeah you know you I was known as the bumper plug guy.
so, back in the Honda Acura days, I had a hook up with Goodson a current Irving, Texas, and they would give me a bag of bumper plugs that came off of the Integris, Texas is a state that requires a front license plate, And so I had all these different colors and I would say, hey, I got the bumper plugs. Who wants them?
People send me money for postage and I mailed the buffer blog so I was J. The bumper Fly Guy is
essentially but yeah, Duane and I we talked all the time and so I asked him to come on so we can talk and kind of Reminisce a little bit about our cars and how we came up with the cars coming up, Dwayne not The Rock Johnson.
Dwayne Johnson. Finally, welcome to the hard
parking podcast or hard Park. MD podcasts, I'm trying to call
it. Glad to be on here man.
It's been a long time watching you from afar, perfecting your craft and really impressive man, I was a little shook actually when you called to get on here. That's like man, I don't know.
Am I gonna have to practice in the mirror?
What do I got to do? You know it's funny though
because you know I'm sure you go through this, but when you hear yourself recorded, I don't do a lot.
FaceTiming and stuff like that but even on Zoom calls now with everything being virtual but when you hear your voice played back it's like how do I really sound like that?
You know, you get used to it in this Biz.
In fact you know what's kind of funny is every time I send a voice message to someone I play it back to myself immediately because you can't like when you're texting someone you everyone reads or text back. You're like oh shit.
I didn't mean to say this and they said like a correction.
Like I didn't mean to say they I meant there when you send a voicemail Message, there's nothing.
So you have to listen to it back and this times I'm like, oh, I didn't mean to say this, so you just get so used to that shit.
But man, you've been rocking. We've known each other for a
long time. You were my first car friend,
when I moved to Michigan in 99 and we met we met on the internet before it was popular to meet on the internet back when it was kind of weird to meet on the internet.
Yeah. Back when forums were popping.
That was the thing to be on car for um, whatever whatever car you had. You had a specific forum and
v-tach Narrator is 300 dotnet. All those all those forms man is
where all the people hung out trolls hung out with just, that was, that was social media before the media portion, that was a car date. I have my black Integra and you
had a black Accord coupe, with white Wheels.
I look back at that car and I think what was I thinking like that is be the worst car. This is pretty ceramic Pro.
So you're out there scrubbing, every two days.
The keep that great. At stuff.
But man, when I was cleaning it look good.
Yeah. We used to dream about cars and
shit. And as you know, and as the
world knows and I've sold my NSX and I'm ready to move on man, that brings back memories. I'll never forget when you
picked it up and then you drove through the up' and stopped at a place of North and I saw it for the first time, I be honest with you had pain. I had we had previous friends
that had in a sexist but they didn't look like that.
Yeah, yeah. It looks like that but man,
yeah, just to see you look on your face.
And, you know, I got some photos and when you had on a in its x's in the curio cabinet in the living room at your apartment, I remember the first time I went home and I was thinking like, man, this guy really loves in a sex.
It's like One model like I was a car person so you know, it's like, oh yeah, take this. And I like a Ferrari.
And I like a Lambo, but you were like, no in a sex.
That's the one. So which is cool with it to see
you go through full circle and pick one now is inspiring.
And, you know, because they'll all those times we are talking about cars and back, when you drive and Hondas and Acuras and internal the entry-level Hondas and Acuras.
Right. Right.
But you know, feeling it, you know, at the time It was like man this is this is the level I'm at and these are the cars we drive and love them the same but yeah.
Just as you kind of get that was like man that's a huge inspiration to me in general because, you know, you don't really back in the day. You didn't really think about
that. And we were just starting
families and doing all that softening.
A lot of our friends here in like, yeah, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna go pick up a sports car and it's pretty cool.
Remember, Rolla know, it's like member yamani, you tried to recruit you in his cargo he was he did like the the, the Fast and Furious Toretto thing before.
That was the movie was even outright.
Like remember what he said when he tried to recruit you?
Oh yeah, I rolled up honest, man.
He rolled up on a things like, hey, we talk about it.
We think you guys should roll with us and vehicle status and stuff like that.
In the movie, they would have rolled up on a bunch of crotch rockets and surrounded us but nowadays they were all up seven or eight cars deep and he gets out basically like Toretto opens up his arms and we want you to be part of our family where like where we going nowhere, right. We're gonna cruise up and down
28th Street like huh. Wow, we did it for a while and
then they would get annoyed because we didn't have our radios turned on. Right time or we return laugh.
When they turn, right? We wouldn't run red lights to
stay in the group. So we're always kind of doing
our own thing which is which is always cool to me.
Yeah, you know, life was just life was just different than but you were the first one. We talked about cars, we wanted
to get and you got your car at first and this in 2012.
Yeah, so I was looking for a 911 and older ones like a 70s 80s and I was on The internet and jumped on rimless, which is a Porsche forum and was asking some people and looking at cars that were for sale and someone shot me a private message and said, hey I got a guy and its own a car.
He's not on the Internet. It's really good guy.
You really ought to take a look at this car, you know.
Of course, I'm a little bit skeptical, you know.
Somebody hit me up. So, so yeah, sure he sent me a
bunch of pictures and it was a 1996 1993 Paul.
Before they became the ultimate air cooled, blah, blah blah collector, blah blah, blah, Yan and glitch.
That's a 993, Carrera to write correct correct.
Yeah. Career to.
So, it's so similar pictures car look, great.
So, talk to the owner or owners super dialed in had his own Porsche shop down in Tennessee and so I flew down and drove it back. Met the owner and the two guys.
Helped broker the deal. Super nice still friends with
them. Now on Instagram and matter of
fact, a friend of mine bought another one of this guy's cars out of the blue just randomly off PC car, auction site, whatever the online pc car market.
And so, it happened to be owned by this guy and he's like, hey isn't this the guy? You bought your car from those
like yeah, so I gave him a call and we talked and he asked about the car could still have it and still runs great.
He just goes So I bought the car from the right person.
Very meticulous owner and made sure I had everything dialed in before I picked it up and drove it back to Grand Rapids about eight hours. Yeah, I keep that thing forever
because you're always kind of romanticizing about moving on.
You know this is this is kind of the thing with that car is its well sorted and it's been going up in value which was the surprising number, bought it thinking that like I said I bought it before there was any right here.
Cool. Bubble or anything like that,
but every year especially around this time.
So it's Michigan is 12 inches of snow outside.
Its sitting in a nice warm shop, which I go visit hang out with it whenever I want to. But I always think about getting
something else right around this time and then as soon as spring hits and I do that first drive, it's like, what was that?
So every year it's always maybe I'll get a newer one or GT3 but I'm really not much of a fast driver.
Person. Like, I know, I'm not very kind
of want to go to the track and have track days and all that stuff. I just want to go out and it's
car. Fits the bill perfect, it's not
terribly fast, but it is agile. It's great on the back roads,
you know, 60 miles an hour on a 45 mile, an hour road.
Feels like you're at Lamar. So it's a great car for doing
exactly what I love to do, which is get away driving, you know, go for an hour and a half two hours and then kind of come right back. So getting into a newer car, I'm
afraid it would turn into more of a daily driver and I'd be trying to drive it to work and I think that would kind of take away some of the specialness of having a car.
That's like a weekend car or cars & Coffee.
Go at least for me. Yeah but I mean your your C to
it's not just like a run-of-the-mill.
OEM see to like the previous owner that thing was you bought it? It was ready for the track.
It had the rough wheels on it and it's in the stands.
I had the racing seat that you got rid of.
I mean, it was track-ready track prepped.
Yeah, yeah. And there's actually YouTube
videos of the guy driving it on the track and it is, it's very formidable on the track. It's going to coil over
suspension. And like I said, it's got RS.
Uprights and and things that only nerdy are cool.
People that own 993 know. But it's still very comfortable
on the road but yeah, somebody that would buy that car for me would easily be able to take it to the track and drive it.
I just as the valuing up, I just saw myself less and less trying to wrap it around it and you know I'll take it out and slide off a track somewhere with it. And and again, I'm just not that
guy that likes to race real fast like that on the track.
Well, I mean, we've zipped around those streets quite a bit for the last two and a half. Years, I lived there and we
still got the photos man posted up in front of laundry on Silver's. You know, I got a new Long John
Silver's guy here my boy well so we go fishing every once in a while but it all started with you.
Yeah man. That that photos classic.
I'll never forget the guy that pulled up on the scooter as a brother. I can follow.
Yeah, brother, older brother, right.
Pulled up on a scooter and yeah, the Helix like it came out of the past or something. Man, I see you got all the
money. Down and he just drove off.
I remember that was like the perfect ending to you getting ready to move out and drive your car out, west and everything is you're moving, Arizona. What's so funny because, you
know, you have an older brother looking at two younger cats.
I mean, we aren't super young. We're already in our 30s.
Yeah. It's not like we were in front
of, you know, Mastro City Hall. We were in the parking lot of
on, John Silver's. There's levels to this shit, I
guess, right? Yes, yeah, exactly.
Exactly, kind of like what we were talking about is you know, and that then that and that's where that that portion 993 comes into play for me to. It's like, you know, I do feel
that I've had it for eight or nine years, it's probably time to move on and I never understood that I went to my first cars that cost for that car and Porsche guy that were that was there had the hat on and the jacket.
He's like, yeah man, you know, you should raise it up to regular level and you know, it shouldn't be slam like that.
And he's kind of tell me that kind of demonic are even coming.
Classic can all listen, I'm kind of looking at him like, you know, whatever, it's personalized way.
I like it. And I'm Eric, I'm never forget
what he said, he said, yeah, we're just care.
Just care caretakers for these vehicles, you know, we're just, we're just watching them so we can hand them off to somebody else the next person in line, you know.
So you want to make sure you keep it as and classic and its original as possible and I thought to myself, like I don't think of my car is like I'm a caretaker for this vehicle.
I'm going to pass it on somebody else like right now.
Duty to do that. But anyway, now that I've owned
it for eight or nine years, you kind of when you think about passing it on or giving it to somebody else and, you know, just like kind of what you did, you know.
It's like you know somebody makes some changes.
How am I going to feel about that or rally say it you never want to sell your car to somebody local because you don't want to see it show up at Cars and Coffee.
You can sit there and have no sellers remorse or anything like that. Like, I get that but the same
time it'd be kind of nice to see it.
Go on and live its life through somebody else, you know, and you know their version of what they want it to be.
You know, it's funny my good one of my good friends about the car and here's number one goal is to make it to where everybody didn't see it as Jays in as X and it's like everybody knows it's minus X. Every NSX person in the world
knows is minus X all the local people but yet we're taking photos of it and posting it all over our Instagram.
Like that's how you tell everyone you just bought.
Jason is X essentially, so it's kind of fun, right?
Right. So now everybody's going to kind
of watch the transformation and turn it into a deep personalizing it, you know. And then yeah, that'll always be
to me and I'll always be your car.
I'll know no matter what happens to it's like, that was the original car that came back and you're always tinkering with and putting stuff on and ripping interior out and come over to go for a drive and Both seats are out and dash.
Wires are all everywhere and I'm thinking my God together, but you know what's funny is, I didn't want to touch that car for a long time. I was terrified that I would
mess something up and then I forgot who I was working with or what I was doing. But at some point I was like,
you know what, I can do this and I just freaking went full on it.
Yeah, yeah. I remember that, I remember when
you did the C mon, you went out there and I remember looking in the dash and seeing the fighter pilot stuff.
Like oh, that actually works like the lights can actually do stuff and I'm like, I thought you just got a stuck, some stuff on but you actually took the time to go in and get things to light up and look properly. But then I mean, that's just the
type of person you are. So I wouldn't expect anything
less than that. But most people would put that
level of detail into it, even down to the 3-wood and it parts, and the sides and stuff. So, yeah, I put my buddy, Danny
on electronics details. So he got he went home and he
freaking soldered each one of those things where we wanted them and hit me over the water jet person.
So they Stamped Out everything and then I have my buddy, Bill up there in Detroit, he did some of this shit for it and it's just You know, you got to do it man.
If I would have done it again it would have been 10 Times Crazier but I was like been there done that.
So what made you feel like? This was the kind of time with
your other things involving, just thought.
Well, I've kind of taken it. And I mean, you have Miniatures
of you, Carl, I can't even get a damp and every time they come out, I'm like grabbing those pins, please.
Carl. And it go online is like gone,
but damn, I just saw the need to parent almost like 20 minutes ago. it was a it's one of those things where it's like I, you
know, I've kind of I wanted to get something else and it's When you're in this space of having like an NSX, like NSX owners, a lot of them are like I'm never selling this car, I'm keeping her forever best car ever but some of those guys have like three or four or five cars so, you know, you can afford to do that and for me, it's something I've wanted forever.
I had it for nine years, just short of however, long you've had your your Porsche and it's like, it got to the point kind of where you're saying, where I've done everything to what I want. Anything else I wanted to do
would just cost a lot more money.
Even if it was, you know, put back the popups is supposed to.
It's a 97. It was supposed to have pop-ups.
The previous owner, did the conversion and I liked it but you know you need a new seals just normal shit and when the writing on the wall is everything's hybrid and then eventually full EV for a car that was so old.
It's just I don't know. I know the prices are going up
but there's a lot of As you're like, oh no, so you're in a sex yet. It's going to be worth x amount
of money in the future. It's like, okay, why do you have
the card? You have it to to cash it in
later. Or do you have it to enjoy it?
Because one thing that no one can ever say is that?
I just let my car sit. Yeah.
And that's funny that when you look back on it, when we both bought our cars with them, three months of each other, right?
Who would have thought that, you know, we looked at and I'm sure the other people, our family looked at it like oh my God, you spent that much money for this old car.
But who would have thought they would have gone up in value.
Like they have some of these things are just ridiculous and so, you know, you do look at it, I hate to use the word investment, but, you know, I'm not going to lose any money on it, but there is a point where you're going to see, even, you know, the bubble is going to burst on these air-cooled 911s.
And, you know, a car that I bought for in the 30s now that's worth 70 80, 90 The Venture going to go back down the CSD, but it probably will never go. Low 30.
So from a, again investment way to look at it.
I'm going to be fine. But, you know, it would be nice
to sell high and sure, move up in category into something else, you know? Because there are a lot of cars
that I see it. Cars & coffee or I've had
friends that have cars and I mentioned GT3 before and stuff like that. But if you stay in the Porsche
world, it's kind of like the housing market.
It's like you're selling high and you're buying High.
And I definitely want to get another Porsche always have a 911. It's just, I don't know if I can
go fully into the brand new, new new new ones, but, you know again, I don't I support. Yeah.
I'm more into the wretch fro. You know, group are type
lowering, you know, that I get a ding on and not really worry about it. If I was going to do something,
I'd probably move backwards actually and you know those cars being small or too, you know, I'm 63.
So You, you 23 hours is Max and Min when you're not driving across the car. I'm not driving across the
country and everything like that but it's good like it's for some yeah well even older than that like just an older 911 like a 72 or 73 and that's something that's been more hot rod it out.
A little more simple and smaller motor.
Do more agile, lightweight. Yeah, throw it out on a singer.
They've got some nice, nice singers and put the other company that's doing the wide-body. 993 is, I can't think
of his name right now, but there's some new technology, getting shoved in these bodies. And it's just me and it's
amazing, you know, I've never thought of RW being in.
I've had people approach me about that and I just don't think I can cut it up. It's a great car.
That's why I never went wide body for that reason and I mean you didn't dump, I mean shit, I probably don't 50 55 grand in my car, at the end of the day between everything modifications and just servicing over the last nine years.
But, you know, I probably broke even and what I sold it at.
Yeah. Or took a small loss, and that's
okay. Yeah, I mean, but you use, like
you said, it's your car anywhere you go, it's your card.
It's the same way with my car around town here.
People see, and they know it's me.
And every time I always talk about selling and people like, yeah, you're not going to sell. I'm not gonna let you tell that
car. Never know.
You look up one day and be gone. It's always it's always easy to
talk about the car when it's on the lift with a cover on it in the winter time but as soon as spring rolls around summer and you know it's it's still amazing car, you know, that's an important difference, you know, thinking back because you know, the first few years I own the car.
I was still living there in Grand Rapids and so we would only have our cars for four to six months a year technically, right? Over by the end of what on.
On a shitty year, they're up by mid-october.
And on a generator here. They're up by mid-november,
right? Yeah.
And I mean, I still got video of us going in a sea of cars, parking, a giant warehouse and starting our cars up and just letting them idle for 15-20 minutes if we keep the batteries charged, you know, looking around 100 different car, covers all over all types of stuff and me and you and there's 50 degrees starting our cards up in the wintertime love and I guess wet spot on my Echoes The Leaky will weaken rooms that we come a long way. Come on.
Yeah, I mean that's that's different because you don't have the car the whole time. You know.
I remember that like the first drive from the storage facility back to the house, it's in. Everyone's looking at you.
And then the sound like my car would make, when I would just fucking get on it on the on-ramp and then the off ramps, like, oh, I forgot about that, but when you have a car 365, It's not like you get used to it but you just, you know, it's different. Yeah.
And that's that's you know, that's that is a big part of it too. I'm glad you brought that up
because like I said I can I'm just like every other car person I'd kill my wife is watching Housewives or whatever and I'm sitting on the couch and extra and iPad going through Auto Trader. I'm looking at new cars and
looking old cars and looking at who's got this for sale and that'll happen all winter. But as soon as spring rolls
around it's like yeah. It's a good, five, six months
where you don't have your car and you get back into it and kind of fall in love all over again and then and then you put it away. So I think that, I think that
people is a big deal, you know, as being part of the Midwest and having a nice car. Not driving it winter and
storing it, it definitely makes it a little more special when you do pull it out. Yeah.
And I think I'm done with the, with the forever car.
Feel Like I know what I'm targeting that I have lined up.
You know what, I have lined up some other people know, but not everybody knows but regardless because there's still some shit that has two. So, I have a checklist as I told
you when I was sitting in your kitchen last year.
Yeah. And there are two more
checkmarks to go, so we're close, but if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out but hopefully it does.
But even in that, I don't I can't see myself.
Having that vehicle for more than a couple years.
Like, it gets to this point where it's already worth more than buying it for. But you know, no more crazy
shit, it's just do some light modifications to it, have it styled out. The only way Jay knows how to do
it. Sell it in a few years and get
something else. And it doesn't have to be high
in an exotic. I mean, I'm, you know, me I've
been looking at Alfred old Alfa Romeos.
I've been looking at, you know, it could be a 1520 thousand dollar car. I just want to just keep cycling
through and experiencing completely different cars every few years. Yeah, I've got Got a shop here
in Grand Rapids, for restore, cars, me and three other people.
And one of the people that stores their heads, five cars, different types from 1944 to a Hellcat 29, Porsche 928, he's got a 1200 horsepower, Mustang almost get the rag hard and then he's got a new Corvette and and but he, you know, he drives all of them and he puts a little bit of miles.
Is that every year on all of them, but it's such a huge range that he can kind of go in and pick kind of like, oh, yeah, we're gonna do a little Cain carving or whatever.
Go to run through the woods up, north, or something.
I'm going to take this car or if, you know, hey, I got my kids with me. We're going to take this car.
We're going to do this and so it's kind of nice to be able to choose. You know, my car is pretty
static. As far as what you can do with
it rifle last two hours in a Max before she's ready to get out.
So it's great for What it does but I'm not taking that somewhere for the weekend about driving it to know middle, I or anything for the weekend. So I'm some people would do it
but it's just not comfortable enough for me.
So it would be nice to have something else.
In addition to what I have. Now as you know like you said
it's something that's just a different feel you know like could be 500 SEL or something right?
Why body beds or be 500 or something like that.
Something that's just different enough to where it's like, oh It's a different mood when I want to take it somewhere, maybe it accommodates more people, and, but it's still fun to drive and, you know, it's so exciting. So, I've already started
tinkering with with this next model and Photoshop, and I'll, I'll send you a photo of what I've been playing around with just light stuff, and it's just like, every time I look at it, I need a smile like, holy shit, that could potentially be mine.
Yeah, Alexa, it's a great feeling.
I we have a couple of Porsches. I have a Cayenne, that's lifted.
I've had that for like a year and a half.
So before that let's go everywhere.
I want to do that to my Affinity, but if that won't let me, that's a difference like Sarah, just, I don't know.
She pushes back sometimes with you, but it's like look, this is on my my my My Drug Money fund over here.
Right? Exactly side by side, hustle.
You can't say shit about it, you know?
I would love to do something like that to Infinity, man.
Yeah, I mean I bought the guy in a year and a half ago, 8,000 mile one owner and went down and ordered some parts and stuff from your old wise. Got the lift on.
I got the wheels and spare tire and it's right.
I've been driving it all winter. Couldn't wait to drive it this
winter and it's a tank, but a lot of gas and drives like an old Cayenne, but Yeah, it's a lot of fun and we also have a Mac on GTS which I've had for three years now.
We just ordered a new one so necessary.
Okay. No, it's mine.
That's my daily soon. As she said, oh, she's got a
SQ5. Oh, that's right.
That's right. She's got the Audi SQ5.
So we were either going to replace that.
We look at our S6 but that's that's like my ultimate dream car. I was going to get RS6 but the
prices I thought. Yeah I'll sleep on them a little
bit when they first came out because everybody was trying to flip them real fast and then had a couple people approach me that had them, you know, that you wanted 10 or 15 grand over MSRP.
And I thought that I can just wait it out by certified used one, but now I see the price has gone up even more so it's the market. Yeah, yeah.
So I'll get one eventually. Might have 80,000 miles.
Sure when you get us some car news yeah let's do it.
So Tesla recently announced a recall of 435,000 vehicles.
I didn't really look it up, guessing you probably did for safety and recall issues. Yeah it's on the model.
S they're having an issue with model 3.
Yeah, the model 3 had a camera issue and then there was some model Essence bad. The trunk release that would let
go randomly. So be terrible to be driving and
have your hood pop up in the front of you.
That's right. I said frunk.
Yeah, the front. Yeah, it was like my brother did
that, I'll never forget that. My brother seems oil in his car
and went to shut the hood and add the oil can still in there and took off down the road and hood popped up and it scares practice, like somebody threw a blanket over the car.
Smash the windshield. Like it is, imagine that shit is
like, what are you doing? You know, this should happen.
You know, what you do? You do that move where you kind
of squat down? And look at that little, look at
Sunrise slit in the middle of the fucking Dash board.
And just pray, the guy that you're headed to come flying off and kill somebody. But yeah, we've announced.
And then after that's 119,000, Model S's, with that front issue from 2014 to 21, and then from 17 to 20 the model, Threes 356,000 of though. That's I mean hook.
So you've always been technology forward.
You're always the one person I know that always has a laser greatest. In fact, when I was there last
year, I've looked at your blinds and said, hey bet, we should get these motorized blinds. The Wayne has his shit and
hooked up and it's like, alright, cool do it.
We haven't done it yet, but why don't you guys have a test line?
Is it, is it a regional thing because they're everywhere down here, you know, we did look hard before we bought them account.
I'd like to add a model 3 Performance and I tried will the range anxiety is real thing. So I did have a bad experience
out in Vegas. I'd did Toro.
I had a well-rounded Seema. I had when I was with you,
actually and I rented a car on Toro and it was the little BMW.
I3, the little Squad went to school.
I'll take this for the day and went to meet some friends out in the desert and that little thing out on the highway.
And he went from 50 mile range down to like, 20 in.
In 10 seconds, when the wind hit it.
And I thought, oh my God, I'm gonna get stuck out here and I always, I turned around in the median, had to drive back ended up plugging it in and at the Las Vegas speedway in the parking lot on Tuesday for like an hour. Just to get enough charge to get
back to a mall. It was the worst thing ever.
Like it, just terrible experience.
Like all I did was charged the car all day.
So so we looked at model 3 and by Time I priced it out.
Of course you know like can't just have a base model.
It was it was in the sixties and I was trying to justify my wife because here in Michigan the Meyers guests or the Meijer grocery stores have Tesla Supercharger was in parking lot.
Well nice. Yeah, so all the Myers have at
least one or two day and there's not that many tests here which is great because that means that you're not waiting.
Look at some of the things in California.
People are waiting in line to charge their cars and all that.
Yeah. And it really came down to
trying to put the infrastructure in my house, the to charge the car, 22, 22 22 to 23 phase or something like that.
Yeah, it's like a dryer because if you don't do that then like overnight get only charges like 15% or something.
Yeah. So I didn't realize they took,
you plug it into a regular 120 Outlet.
I think you get like three to four miles per hour.
Charge for eight hours. It's 24 miles.
Yeah. And I drive Could you 30 miles
of work? So that wasn't going to work.
If you put it on our 220 plug, I can you get like 40 to 50 miles per hour so you could Max it out of the night but to run them that power and kind with all that stuff.
But my power comes in and other side of the house and, you know, on the garage had a friend of mine quote, it was electrician, it was like $1200. So once my wife saw that she was
like, yeah, just seems like hassle we kind of put the kibosh on it, but so you Look, I've been in.
Oh yeah we definitely look it just right now it wasn't.
The charging seem like was an issue and we have a place up North. So we see what Michigan that you
pee, but it's two hours from here and that commute was 120 miles. And then we'd have to have a
charger up there because I couldn't drive up there and drive back where weekend on a full charge.
So it just turned into kind of a inconvenience and we really didn't have the infrastructure to kind of make it work and I don't want to pay for them. Well, the world required.
Yeah, the world is headed the full TV and it's just last year I did a, there was an article that one in five people who have switched to EV a Switchback, because of, basically everything you just mentioned, you know, the hassles associated with it.
And at the end of the day, you really weren't saving as much as people thought they were saving, plus the out of the future of the batteries is up in the air. But yeah, I was just looking at
CES this year and they announced the the electric F-150 which actually looks amazing. Yeah, TV shit now.
Yeah, and they all sold out the all the first and a limited edition blue color. They sold out and during the
broadcast, they were talking about the truck and everything.
It did. All this stuff and quarter mile
range. They didn't say, the price for
the price is 105 thousand dollars.
That's a lot for a truck, that's electric.
Yeah. But they supposedly sold out.
So I don't know where you people going to charge these things because at least Tesla has Well and in place to a certain degree but they got a really step up their infrastructure to be able to charge all these vehicles or they're going to do what I did.
Have to pay to get stuff in your house.
A year was there has to be standardization in order for all this to work, there has to be standardization.
They need to have these gas stations, that are not only quick charge but where you can probably swap out your fuel cell. Like that's, yeah, they're going
to have to have like one of eight different types of batteries. for every AutoZone is going to have to have some sort
of a swap out but We also have this, we had this this thing out here in Arizona, a few days ago, autonomous truck company too simple. Laws us first no human road test
in Arizona, so they had a truck drive.
Looks like maybe yeah, from Tucson to Phoenix.
And apparently, they have 70 autonomous trucks globally.
This thing drove on its own. It looks like a regular rig
actually look like a Johnny Cash Cab.
Yeah, this is it doesn't work. What's that one?
That drives around looks funny and it has like a big globe on it and it's like it's either giving me One Rides or it's mapping the road. It doesn't didn't look like
that. Yeah, looks like a normal car.
Yeah, I noticed that we have a couple in town here that just do short routes and It's autonomous, but there's this person sitting up front, doodling on a piece of paper, whatever, but they're not doing anything and they're using it for free taxi to kind of show proof of concept.
But it, you can you see it a mile away?
You know. It's some weird about it because
it's it looks like it can't take a hit from a you go, you know, it looks dumb. Yeah.
Yeah. We have.
So, I mean shit and we have another EV company out here in Maricopa. I don't remember what it's
called, but what do you think of the other evenings coming out?
Like, we the rivi and truck and then what's the, what's the nice car that is inclusive, that everybody leaves to the area.
So this here that's who it is. Lucid is the one down Maricopa.
But what I like about the ribbing and I mean, I don't, I don't have a problem with it again.
That's going back to me selling my car.
It's like the writing's on the wall.
That's the way the world is. Going and going back to the Ford
F-150. Is that the lightning like that?
Like the Ford Lightning? Is that what it is?
Because I know the light I think the light is actually be Ford once a year ago we'd mentioned on the show that they had just Several billion or a trillion dollars purchased to do a full EV grid. And at the time of the
announcement was funny because Ford had no hit had denounced any EV Vehicles. So then it's all kind of making
sense. Yeah, they're buying.
They're bringing the infrastructure River.
Yep. Bring it in for trouble.
Smart do you have to because I mean they're just watching the CES thing today and they're talking about by 2023 90% of their vehicles are going to be You know, Evie's and all this other stuff in the thought. Wow, that's not that far away.
It is also an abandoned gas cars.
So it'll be it's going to be interesting time.
I know I'll still be dumping dirty fuel in my 911 and join my weekend runs along into the hopefully into the future, you know, good. Maybe they'll be an electric car
in the garage to. Yeah, I think that and they've
already started doing it. Where do they do electric crate
voters? Yeah, yeah that's a big thing
now to what do you think about the hybrid cars?
All the super cars going hybrid? Now you know I mean it's hard to
beat the tech that's getting but in time.
Yeah yeah it's I think that, you know, people push back unless you're the one percent of the one percenters, the New York.
Are you want to buy the latest and greatest and it's like the Porsche was it taken. Yeah like that thing everybody.
I know that test drove one of those and had a Tesla got rid of their Tesla for one of those so yeah whatever Porsche is doing they're finally doing it the right way and controversial take, I know that Elon Musk may have had a McLaren F1 that he wrecked but that doesn't make him a car person and so I see Tesla's as transportation. But they're not designed by car
people and so norcia are very much car people and that's probably why the Porsche EV is when they're not they're not going to make, you know, 600,000 of them.
They're not the Toyota Camry of EV like Tesla is I mean this expensive camera but everybody has everybody has one here.
But I think companies are going to start, you know, challenging for that with the hybrids. I mean, who I don't know, I
don't know, a lot of people will knees, but if I did, I doubt I would hear someone complaining that the LaFerrari just isn't it. Right.
You know you get to a certain point.
It's like this is it. Now I know a guy who bought a
918 when they came out and he couldn't wait to get rid of it when he loved his 458 and he said he was so much better of a car but I don't know if it had to do with the tech or just the car. I don't know, maybe didn't feel
like anything. Yeah.
And I, you know, from a Porsche perspective to I've been in new GT3 and GT3 RS and stuff and their driver Or Century cars.
So if you don't, if you don't push him to the Limit or mean they they're they're okay basic cars, but a Ferrari friend of ours bought a Ferrari lusso and but for driving that thing is amazing, but it's completely night and day different German and Italian cars. So I could see how somebody if
they were there leaning towards Ferrari.
They usually you're not feeling pressure because it's just a different vibe in this guy races cars to.
So it's like he's looking for that that certain feel if the car doesn't have it doesn't have it.
But yeah speaking of CES, speaking of the future, speaking of electronics, the news this week is his BMW IX flow concept with its color changing panels and it's yeah.
Have you seen this thing? It popped up on my Newsfeed
yesterday and it's a couple YouTube videos of it.
It's e-ink. So from the inexpensive tablet
that e ink paper, he paper. Yeah.
And so, that's why it's going black and white, but it's pretty cool that they got it dialed in. I mean, I've seen some videos
where they were up close in it. They can actually put patterns
and stuff on it. I'm surprised they didn't put a
BMW logo on it but oh good. Yeah, yeah.
On it but it's pretty interesting.
I mean, who knows what that cost.
But it says, BMW announced any plans to bring this technology to a production vehicle? I don't besides just kind of
cool. The sustainability.
I mean, BMW is already known for their shooting Electronics.
Don't wanna be stuck on the side of the road with a color-changing car, right? But I think the front of its
grey in the back flag or something.
Yeah, the vehicle itself. It's a hideous looking vehicle
and I'll tell you what, I anytime I looked at a new car, I always give you a hint of your chance and looked at M5, looked at x6m zag, look at all types of stuff.
And I always get something else and I don't know why.
It might be the dealership here in town.
Just turns me off but I for some reason, for the price and just a headache. I Just never ended up with one
hand and they change to those new grilles.
That ain't smoke awful just reminds me of Angry Birds or something really every time it snows cars.
I just it's just a. Yeah.
You know that you know what? Actually speaking of Angry Birds
the Ford GT back looks like the Angry Birds pig and I love the.
I love that car. I fucking love that car but it
does get the lights. Never.
Yeah, between the lights in the Back.
It looks just like when you're never unsee it.
What I can say is I mean the BMW's like the late 2000s versions like the 2017 16:15, those are sick.
Yeah. I love the way those look.
They had it dialed in for a while and then like Audi to Audi had it dialed in for a while and they weren't real geometric and how they kind of slowly pull it back.
But yeah they do. I've always said every
manufacturer seems to have five to eight years on top of the hill before somebody else. Overtakes them.
Yeah, nothing Audi's. Rain really was back when I was
going to school. So like 2008, 2007 2008 to 2014
Maybe Yeah. BMW is good and they were shit
and they're good. Now their shit, right?
And then Hyundai it's come up God it's coming up now and Mercedes had a run two seasons, had some have some hot cars.
They did for a while they're Ultra smooth and futuristic but this was hot and they weren't and now I think Lex is getting back into kind of being hot. Slowly getting rid of that
massive Grill, somebody just images They just been slowly making it smaller and smaller over the years and now it's getting back to the point where it looks little bit reasonable.
Yeah, why does a car News section?
Mr. Johnson, thank you for being part of the show today.
Yeah, appreciate you having me man.
I've been a big fan and looking forward to seeing what's new on the horizon for you. I know it's bittersweet to your
car live on and Instagram lamb but you know you can always visit it whenever you need to since he's local.
You was funny his this, this person also bought he recently.
So I did the video of the F12 yellow one.
He saw that and he bought a yellow 488, so I have to go over there and basically do the same video.
Yeah, that's That's a pretty sweet.
I saw the F12. Yeah, I don't know how that
person. Just Dows it back like that
after that, I mean, it's next car.
He felt that it was an old man's car and it's definitely a mature. That's amateur exotic which I'm
right. I'm all about that almost
amateur exotic. I don't need the YouTuber
McLaren a lot or, you know, the Aventador, which it's what he wants. He wants an Aventador.
But you know, I they have 12 the way he had it with those wheels and tires and that stands off. I prefer Split Second, I thought
about buying it. Yeah, it'll be interesting to
see is taken Aventador. I've been in one a good friend
of mine and one for a couple years and I wrote in it twice and is some awkward angles in that car.
But amazing car but just not my cake.
All right man, we'll get you under for a future Q&A segment this year. All right, man.
Yeah, anytime, man. I appreciate it.
Congrats on the podcast blowing up and like I said, look forward to seeing what, what you going to do next?
One of them, Dwayne, for joining the show.
I call them fish. If you guys have been around me
for a while, and you've, you've heard me mention fish.
That's Duane and fish comes from Jupiter fish, which is one of his little private companies scum fish.
Although I started calling them caviar.
Caviar Johnson, is it a fish Johnson?
Because he's always into the Finer Things in life.
Like he would introduce me to Brands.
I've never even heard of He kind of dresses, winter grungy.
Not really hobo wish. With the sweater that he's
wearing. Might be like a foreigner
sweater. Well, it looks like a $30
sweater, but it's not caviar, Johnson.
He and I, we have the same dog. So, you always hear is e at the
end of my podcast and he has a dog named Lucy.
So Lucy and Izzy came from the same parents, two years apart.
So, Lucy is two years older than Izzy Izzy turns 14, on January the 11th tomorrow. You guys have seen, is he but
Lucy, having some health issues as well.
But yeah, that was always kind of the connection.
Dwayne got his dog first started.
Asking questions about Lucy little hyper allergenic yorkie.
Poo, we bought is e 2 years later, Dwayne, but his Porsche by my NSX, a couple months later.
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