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Will Donald Trump Change the American Automotive Industry?

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hello and welcome to this carpod I'm Ken

I'm felipo and there's a lot to discuss

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news time for the news and we start with

the news Donald Trump was elected

president now I don't want to get

political here I don't want fipo to cry

I don't want Kenan to tell us that

Emily's dad was there on January 6 I

don't I don't need to hear it anymore I

want to talk

about I want to talk about what this

means for the automobile industry

felipo it's really interesting cuz there

there's not a clear-cut answer there's a

lot of things that are happening so when

we were kind of prepping the set of

topics I started thinking through what I

think the like main effects are and it

gets really complicated because there

are been a lot there's been a lot of

talk on tariff about from the Trump

campaign about tariff including on

Mexico a lot of cars that are sold in

the US are built in Mexico the

implication would be that will raise the

cost of cars sold in the US by a fair

amount Honda for example builds hundreds

of thousands of cars in Mexico Ford does

as well lot of automakers volag that

would change Dynamics a lot yeah but

will that actually happen to what extent

the the Trump campaign and in general

their expectation that autom

manufacturers will benefit from a trump

presidency but like in what way right

there's a lot of question marks here

it's an interesting situation I think

that the primary thing that I tariffs is

an interesting conversation in itself

you know NAFTA has allowed broad ability

for the automakers to produce in Mexico

and Canada without any sort of I have a

suspicion that's I despite blustery

language from Trump I have a suspicion

there's not going to be ter built so

there's simply too many of them it would

also be a violation of our of NAFTA but

but that could be changed repeal other

other trade agreements have I do suspect

that Chinese tariffs will continue and

and or increase and any automakers who

thought that building electric cars in

China was a good idea up until now which

already is not many because full star

exclusive I was in Canada last week and

I saw model 3 with a VIN that started

with L and I was thinking to myself

that's a China car they don't sell those

things in the United States they want in

Canada starting very soon because

there's 200% tariffs is that right

Canada is doing a tariff also so anyway

I do have a suspicion that um the more

important than the tariffs the electric

vehicle incentives will be the I agree

especially with the Republicans in

control of the Senate and tight in the

house I mean you have to assume that all

of those EV uh I wouldn't call them

mandates but certainly incentives to get

people to buy them and the automakers

are then heavily incentivized to make

them because have they're they have gi

giant Financial incentives those might

change the big question mark then though

becomes most manufacturers have gone

very far in especially from an R&D

perspective on electric vehicles and

they built because a lot of these tax

incentives are required that the car is

built in the US right they've gone all

in and also building factories for their

EVS right so you can have manufacturers

that decide okay well we're going to

ease off of our EV plans but they also

probably haven't developed a new gas

engine or or like new chassis for L and

I've actually I haven't been it's it's I

haven't been entirely thrilled with the

way that the Biden Administration or

previous and current Trump

administrators have sort of peacee these

it's difficult if you're an automaker to

comply with this stuff because every

year it seems that these things change

and now they're they're so complicated

at the point that it's difficult to even

consumers to even understand there's a

there's a PR a means test essentially a

a price test there's an income test

right for some of them for some of the

cars have to be built in the United

States or some some large portion of the

need to be built Ken doesn't care about

this is interesting this is real this

will Define the car that you buy 20

years from now I I'm regardless I'm not

sure what's going to happen but I do

have a suspicion that that the story

will be tariffs and the definite story

will be EVs and whether I also think

like everybody's talking about oh people

voted for Trump for this reason that

reason you know the electric cars and

the the the change that the Democrats

are pushing in that way I have a

suspicion in some cases did contri

people make fun of conservatives make

fun of electric cars Etc they're not

ready we think we're not ready the power

Grid's not ready we always hear those

talking points and this was a little bit

of rebuke of that Elon Musk was a huge

surrogate for Trump support of trump

it's an odd thing it is an odd thing it

doesn't make any sense to me personally

right and then like you worry a little

bit about tariffs on especially

components that are necessary for batter

development but the industry group that

lobbies for that is a combination of

Tesla rivan and a couple of other

manufacturers well Elon Musk is presum

will be in favor under the Trump

Administration right how does that what

does that actually look like and that's

and that's one of the reasons why just

Trump talks a big game in a lot of ways

but he's got a fairly broad Coalition

and can't go too far in any one dire as

worried as people get I think that this

is a good example of an area where he

can't go too crazy because he upsets not

only his largeest supporter but a guy

who honestly probably helped deliver him

right some some portion of his

substantial Victory it's also such a

different landscape than 2030 years ago

I think 203 years ago you talked a lot

about the big three American

manufacturers and those being the people

that are building the US and those

unions being the ones that might have a

lot of democratic backing or republican

backing well the unions were very split

in what Canada they supported it's not

just the big three that are building

cars in the US Hyundai Kia Nissan Toyota

Honda to some extent super they all have

huge plans so like what is the story now

it's it's no longer as clearcut as

American manfacturers yeah yeah yeah

it's definitely an interesting thing

it'll from a from Automotive perspective

it will be interesting to see what

happens and I do have a sense that EVS

may not be as heavily incentivized going

you gotum JD Vance at some point

apparently Trump's vice president elect

came out with an idea that they would

start incentivizing simply American

built cars gas or electric which is an

interesting thought um that could also

have some benefits if that ever went

anywhere I mean there's any it's

anybody's guess and I have to say I

think the automakers are not entirely

thrilled with that that they've they've

gone in one direction for the last few

years now they got to go back and they

were back in the first place it's a

tough it really is a tough game to play

If you're trying to cuz manufacturing

has set up years in advance there's also

a lot of there was a lot of lobbying

around the EV tax credit I think the end

solution was one that generally

manufacturers were okay with orms were

okay with Cafe standards though and

emission standards there was a lot more

debate around and it's we I think the

prevailing theor that those will be

pulled back a little bit right what does

that mean maybe not all that much I mean

like who's selling cards that are that

dirty at this point where the matter

that much I I don't know I will say

consumer demand does seem to line up

more with the Trump administration's

sentiment than the Biden Administration

sentiment in terms of people kind of

walking back from EVs and we see that

with the automakers that are every week

now one more seems to be walking back

its electric vehicle goal um but at the

same time we're in a global economy like

making cars just for the US might not be

as lucrative as and China's crazy EV

China's crazy EV so in other words we we

have no insights here just a lot of

questions I remember I used to think

that I would love to run car company and

I'm so glad that I'm not now life is

very different than 20 years ago when I

was sitting at Porsche like I could do

this there's you got to think China now

it used to be North America was

everything you got to think EVS you got

there's a ton of politics involved now

it's a bizarre situation and you know

porsa comes out with the McAn V and it's

like this was a Miss well it seemed like

a huge hit when they were developing it

yep but to be honest with you it it has

also always been that way I mean in in

the 70s when emissions start stuff

became much more strict I manufacturers

had a lot of difficulty meeting true and

it none of has changed Porsche is a

great example when they had to develop

that that Andreas sper talks about that

like turn signal they had to spend

hundreds of thousands to develop for

specifically because of the US dot

standards like there have always been

like for our California tail lights

there have always been like great

examples that's true I I get the sense

that there's probably more now and more

uncertain the automakers now but that

you're right there there's there's

always this has always been part of the

there are massive compliance departments

in these companies complicated business

my big concern is for components as

someone who owns an older car or older

foreign car that have to bring in a lot

of components that are producing

other and so I know like I'm worried

about that and Ryan's worried about that

for his customers too so we'll certainly

as if the ether 95 wasn't expensive

enough to keep I'm glad that you're that

that is top of mine for you Ken well for

me all the news from the week I

appreciate that E39 Parts availability

is like the take something I thought

about it's the takeway there was a lot I

thought about but that was one of the

things ter E39 parts are not I'm I'm

hopeful that the tariffs are not

implemented at the level that we're

being discussed um we'll next news story

a yes SEMA is here SEMA SEMA SEMA is the

specialty equip manufacturers

Association thank you very much I know

everything you look it up uh no no I

just do that cuz I love SEMA I

legitimately love SEMA it goes on in

Vegas every year there's crazy stuff the

automakers got into it 10 20 years ago

started making their own crazy stuff

Toyota has built this which is a twodo

convertible 4Runner looking like the old

school 80s ones with a roll bar and a

surfboard and it's cool

wow you don't think it's cool no what

really I mean the Tacoma exists yeah but

this is it's a it's got seats back there

dude I'm going to tell you this

whoever's at Toyota who helped do this I

want to buy this car at the end of SEMA

I want to buy this car at the end of

SEMA do you think you wouldn't no why

not it's cool you're not buying this

anyway no but I would I love old SEMA

cars like love to a way that I can't

even explain and there are some that I

absolutely would buy I have always

wanted an old like an old concept car if

I could buy a Cadillac the Cadillac CN I

would do it to oh of course but that's

different that's that's that is very

different it is different than a four

run SEMA it's than a 4run that's had

it's you know back C it's more than that

it doesn't even have back doors this is

a this is a serious build serious effort

went into this I just to make a single

one that's going to be static yeah but

it's cool you guys don't understand cool

you never have I don't like SEMA at all

card that I think Kenan will most

appreciate that is at SEMA in theory I

saw an article about this I know nothing

else yeah not of el there's apparently a

company that is making E46 based V8

powered station wagons ooh uh speed

wagon R is K hates all modded cars

that's that's like every kenon dream

rolled into one I don't want it it's

like it's at SEMA no thanks there's

literally no information about it

whatsoever looks that little that

little Motor Co pull this up K that's go

models no scroll up Scroll up models oh

models I don't know how many models they

have look at this that looks cool I go

back up there's no picture this is as

good as it gets but look at that that

looks like an M Coupe but not no go back

up I want to see it I want to look at

see blur out image you can see the idea

of it doesn't even look like an E46 Wag

It just apparently it will have a

sixspeed manual an lsv8 uh 500

horsepower and it's bed 46 that's great

awesome put an LS in an E46 whoop the

freaking do who cares like anybody can

do could knock that out in a long

weekend with a couple of cold one

absolutely Veterans Day is coming up

maybe we should get rat E46 on

Craigslist from a veteran go up to

Oceanside that's that'll be like our

veterans play and then we throw an LS in

it over the weekend play yeah but

exactly that's that's why it's not

something if he and I can do it I I

would respect somebody who put an s54

and madeen 46 M3 touring but like agreed

I but and left whe silver thought you

would be into this I know why would I

care it's an LS and an E46 that's not

something it's it's a fully different

design it's a fully separate design also

their tagline is analog is better not

but you know what was great the original

car the E46 M3 was fine all right I

think we got there was the e463 wagon

kenon this looks cool this blurry shot

looks cool I'm just saying it looks like

it has flared wide fenders it looks cool

I'm just putting it out there I will be

intrigued to see what that they actually

show one there are all these companies

out there trying to be like singer and

this is like that but for BMW wagons

that's what I want I hate a lot of the

singer fakers I even don't really like

singer but I'm ready for some of them to

come along and make cool cars I just

don't care nothing SEMA is real it's all

modded crap that I don't care about I

just I can't imagine a place I'd like to

be less than SEMA what about all the

cool stuff there what about this nothing

cool show us the coolest car at SEMA all

right this is a Kia ev9 Adventure no but

I want you to tell me how Adventure is

spelled uh I will not call it the K the

ev9 adventure I will only call it the

ev9

advntr correct adventure adventure

adventure this is the ev9 adventure it's

the it's the it's the Advent Advent

Advent so tell us what's adventury about

it it's got some uh tires looks like

that is what is Adventure about it

congratulations and like the little

light bar treatment they took it to to

some sort of uh Jurassic Park likea some

slightly elevated piece how does have

access to this sort of forest aren't

they in Southern California seriously

where where is this this isn't in Vegas

this isn't in Southern California where

did they take this picture this is right

behind like some huge distribution

facility oh

little totally like oh there a couple

trees there you know what they did

wherever the ev9 is built they just took

one out back let throw some tires on it

the other side of this there's a

hospital and some bunch of big box

stores yep and they were just hoping to

God that nobody came over the the the

fence or whatever the left the the part

Giant empty parking lot to come down

here and see this thing fun fact parts

of it are built in West Point Georgia

okay that's probably where they took

this picture uh there this is another

SEMA concept card but Kia would I think

build this no would there be demand do

you think for an off-road minivan esque

SUV that's electric let me think about

it mini offer no no so literally no one

would buy this are you saying that all

the people that bought it for efficiency

and practicality and didn't buy it R1 or

another off-road card but want it to

look like that but are willing to trade

100 miles of range for the T yeah I mean

it would be who who there would be a

massive range trade-off It's Not Just

Tires is probably heavy there's probably

a steel bumper you buy it you you bu a a

tierd pro it doesn't look that good I

think the EV 9's drawback is it's the

way it's styled I think its benefit is

everything else yep but this maybe helps

the the light treatment helps the light

treatment helps yeah this is a car that

everybody's most excited about from SEMA

I'm most excited about the 4Runner this

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our next news story kenon all right

Aston Martin now Aston Martin

traditionally is a brand that makes cool

cars and struggles financially that's

kind of what they do to be clear making

and selling two very different yes that

is also true so they recently reported

that they're having some financial

problems here not them I know they're

reporting $1.8 million in losses per day

which you know but for some of us that

that seems like a lot who hasn't lost a

million eight in a day right they also

are down

17% in sales the dbx itself is down 52%

really yes and and they're also taking

on more debt to invest more in the

company they just took on$ 1.57 billion

dollar more in debt so they're in a hole

and they're just going to keep on

digging can I ask you a question I

understand the dbx I understand the the

race car do are they involved in the

manufacturing of heavy

I can't remember what the LA why they

just take the tractors out of the out of

the back for the photo you think laen

Str was like no let's just do it let's

get it done the only way to get the

Formula One car in the shot though they

took it and craned it in and then just

gently set it down this very deep grass

this looks very thick um but it's not a

surprise this is Aston Martin is a brand

that is desirable conceptually to a lot

of people but when it comes to actually

selling cars the market is the disagrees

and they they've sold many many times

Ford had them for a while I think

them for a little bit too but La stroll

owns them now but that's only so his son

can drive a Formula 1 car and so like it

just it it just ends up Asar just gets

passed around and passed around and

passed around the the famous line that

regular car reviews guy said about

Maserati that Maserati is what rich

people think that is what poor people

think that rich people drive that's kind

of true of as like almost all of the

people who love Aston Martin are like

people who drive Toyotas and people who

are actually in the wor sphere of owning

high-end cars I don't really want an as

Martin no they're they're big luxury

cars they're not that sporty they don't

really have much of a reputation for

like very special high no no it's

someone who wants to be largely esoteric

because you're comparing it against

other cars that are very good and you're

like or I could have an Aston and it's

like it's that's as far as the thought

goes though honestly they're very

available it's never hit me and I owned

an Aston it's never hit me like buying

these cars I could also think about

right now there are some where it's like

you I mean the original like DB the DB5

is like unbelievable make money from

this except for when they make some for

track use only as a new car here are the

good AST I'm going tell you right now

okay please okay the DB5 and db4 and db6

that whole era any of the any cars that

is any car that is a DB5 or a car that

felipo would not be able to tell apart

from a DB5 is a great ason Mark I I I'm

good db7 and up so yeah Enzo era Aston

Martin right pretty good okay the

original laganda yeah God Ser well the

series two you're talking about the anti

I'll take a series one two or three the

series two three and four they're the

anteaters and the one looks very

different but we'll move on the oh yeah

you're right the the original original

laganda looks as different uh and then

that's kind of what about the current or

current the laganda TOA the 177 which

has a square steering wheel and they

made some cars for the sultan that were

heinous but I want them all sure so

that's kind of it the Bulldog is another

is one the Bulldog's okay I haven't

liked a car that Aston made therefore

since what does that put me at well yeah

well the 177 177

2010 off it's probably that too yeah

it's been 15 years it's been a while I I

I thought everybody agreed that the dbx

was like fine the the valky is Valkyrie

is yeah the valkyri is cool but the dbx

is fine

theb2 is good all the cars are good

they're all legitimately all of them are

good the gbx is great it's a great car

it's too expensive and the brand name is

just not there and you know that when

you are buying Aston Martin you are

buying massive depreciation ABS you know

it as fact you want to be the third

owner at least really to to just that

simply isn't true like you could go get

an Urus which looks worse is not as nice

inside is basically a Cayenne but you

ain't going to lose $200,000 in the

first long weekend that you own the car

right

right that's yeah so not and that's what

all factors into them losing so much

money I mean who wants to buy a car

you're going to lose tons and tons of

money on and and so I I don't so th they

have to subsidize the cars like crazy

they're incredibly available every ason

dealer you go by has stacks of what

should be very special rare cars sitting

out front and so one wonders you know if

they sell again you know I don't know

exactly what lawen strolls plan is with

them but we'll if you're you how do you

fix Martin oh good question I that's a

really great question you know what I

think you do you abandon the whole brand

principle and go mid-engine manual

transmission sports car wow make

something that Ferrari make what Ferrari

and Lambo won't make I don't disagree

abandon the brand principle walk away

from the long GT cars just straight walk

away be like we're doing this to save

the brand like the cayenne and they

built that thing and brought us lava

y well it is I mean the the hope the the

D or the dbx was kind of their ha Mary

to like to save the brand to make an SUV

but it didn't work so you got a point

it's like go back just make some crazy

stuff if they made a beautiful like

Aston Martin level beautiful mid-engine

exotic car that was good with a V8 and

then have James Bond drive it in the

next jamesbond

movie perhaps you got you got a Ferrari

f8 competitor whatever the new Ferrari's

called out and no one pays attention

anymore with a manual transmission a

beautiful car beautiful brand name

that's what people want look at what

people are I don't agree with that look

what people are paying $300,000 for on

the used Market you think you wouldn't

go and buy one of these things Gordon

morray Academy t50 he sold five billion

of those at $7 billion a car I don't

know the exact numbers but it would

that's a that's a slight close

estimate close estimate it wouldn't

can't be worse than what it do now I'll

give you that it can't be worse than how

it is now yeah also I I consider the

sale of ason Martin as a brand McLaren

to just be like Financial moving around

money totally that doesn't impact

anything I completely

people like oh it's bankrupt again well

that just mean someone buys all the the

name and starts doing basically the same

stuff again with similar assets yep and

it never really does anything correct In

Our Lifetime we're going to look back on

aston's best period is that 056 era they

had V advantage in DB9 they had some

good stuff they had good momentum

Vanquish us one of my all time favorite

cars they came out of that db7 era and

they had like good cars good timing and

didn't really Capital they built three

cars that were technically different but

looked identical them and infinity were

killing it in ' 05

okay next news story yes Lamborghini so

Lamborghini on the other side of the

Exotic industry Lamborghini has

announced they're doing great so the

roost is sold out for 2026 that's how

you say it that's how people that's how

you're supposed to say itto is has a

2year waiting list and they announced

that they have made they have uh $2.6

billion in Revenue so far this year and

they've delivered 8,411 cars in 2024 how

many cars did Lamborghini sell I have no

concept apparently in 23 they sold just

over 10,000 cars the first time they

ever broke the 10,000 Mark and that was

an increase of 10% from 22 and now

they're killing it again yeah and and we

haven't wrapped up the year yet I mean

it is it is it really speaks to

something bigger I think I think

Lamborghini is kind of in their what I

was like Crown their Luca deont Zolo era

there was a period where Ferrari was

kind of an obscure manufacturer that

made cars that were cool but they

weren't selling a ton of them but then

all of a sudden like really the late '

9s early L show up went for Lucas showed

up in 19 he took over in 1989 I believe

when Enzo Ferrari died in 1988 and and

immediately started making it more

commercially successful and and

obviously the Formula 1 team then

started to do really well those sorts of

things it really came together I think

Lamborghini is on the precifice of being

that their their sales numbers are

incredible the cars are really cool

there's an increasing interest in their

older cars as you well know and so I

think that the brand has you know you

always used to be the you know the rich

you know kind of drug dealers drove

Lamborghini

people drive and you know one great

example I totally agree with everything

you said I think it's it's completely

clearly true Lamborghini is totally and

by the way Ferrari hasn't it's not a

zero sum game Ferrari continues to excel

but Lamborghini is excelling in a way

they never have before and I think a

great example of of the proof of that is

the RTO compared to the sf90 the sf90 is

a walking Automotive disaster they are

losing enormous amounts of money in the

secondary market like a laughable

depreciation situation that Ferrari has

not seen in since Enzo's lifetime I mean

it's crazy what's going on in the sf90

world meanwhile revel's on a two-year

weight list you and I could get an sf90

tomorrow if we walked into the

dealership and by the way we'd get price

we'd get money off better there might be

some money on the hood there it's got to

be but it it is yeah it is it is

interesting uh I'm very curious to see

how it continues to develop for

Lamborghini because to be honest with

you I as a DieHard lifelong Ferrari fan

I never took Lamborghini seriously for

the longest time because for exact

reasons I outlined y but now I they make

cars that I have to admit Urus is not my

thing but they do make cars that are

inherently more desirable sells a and

it's like Cayenne honestly like like

they've they've bankrolled a lot of this

company's success on the on the back of

this SUV and it's kind of allowed them

to push the envelope even more with RTO

I got to be honest I drove RTO I thought

it was the coolest thing in the world

drove amazingly do wish The Styling were

a little bit more extreme I agree with

that and but I will say like RTO is

actually another example of Lamborghini

has been eating Ferrari's lunch in the

mid-engine V12 world since the mura

Right mura comes out it's a huge success

Daytona Ferrari's like oh God we got to

go man engine so they go man engine the

boxer and the test Roa trying to beat

out the Countach they fail and

eventually Retreat to the 550 marij I

don't know exactly what you mean by fail

they sold a commercially they were way

more successful and yet everyone prefers

the Lambos very much including the car

market today where kach is a million

bucks and in a Tess Roa you can still

find one for like 875 had the

differential explode which most of them

have right well let's not get into

reliability have to pull the entire

engine and transmission one unit with a

crane just to service the car regularly

he is pulled out by George Evans with a

tow truck okay a guy in guy in with a

couple of cold ones the entire dve line

what what dides they tow with but I

don't know but I will say I have

pictures of when they did the major

service of my Caro 5 and guess what

they're using to pull out the engine a

tow truck presumably the same but but to

your point one wonders if that's also

not supply and demand if there are there

are a lot of tester roas around

therefore the price stays regardless it

is clear that Lamborghini is in a is on

an amazing path and I I to be honest as

a Lamborghini owner oh which I barely

think of myself as but I guess I am yeah

it's hard to imagine as a Lamborghini

owner I do wish they would go into

Motorsport I think that the one thing

they're missing from from especially the

old cars becoming like really beloved is

the Motorsports success that Ferrari has

which I think will always Elevate

Ferrari to a higher level but the

difference they do have some cars that

compete in M the difference is Ferrari

has done that since day one they have

always been a race team that's their

thing they but I really think that if

you just show up late and you're really

successful you can still have that

history like your Ferrari but Formula 1

one of the largest spectator sports in

the world is Ferrari and Ferrari is

Formula 1 that level I don't think you

have you probably have to do something

else you absolutely do and Ferrari now

is doing very well in Lal so like you

have to do Lama that would be something

for that would be cool as hell purpose

buil LMP cars going up next to each

other win on Sunday sell on Monday or

win overnight on a Friday through Sunday

Escapade at Lama in the rain and then

sell on money although Lamborghini

already has the YouTuber presence every

single YouTuber has a Lamborghini and

that's got to be worth something okay on

the subject of Lamborghini I have some

Lamborghini talking to do in our top car

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segment I want to talk about Lamborghini

oh Lamborghini we were just talking

about Lamborghini lambor Lamborghini

this show Lamborghini I have a theory

that Lamborghini supercars are the next

Ferrari

supercars like Lamborghini Supercar

meaning Ferrari the 288 GTO the F40 the

F50 the Enzo the La Ferrari and whatever

this new one is called I can't

remember f80 the BMW f80 y okay that's

like the thing that rich guys have right

really and the3 Lamborghini

mura Countach Diablo Mercy I think that

one day having those big four will also

be something okay right now you can buy

all four of those for $3.8 million if

you go to Ferrari calculated this last

night you got to spend 20 million to get

the big the big whatever the I don't

even know in the f80 who knows what it's

going to cost 3.5 million I think where

it's going to start at least they said

but if you get one and you won't so 25

million to get the Ferrari supercars

right now the Lambos are are four I well

I understand conceptually what you're

saying I think it gets confusing because

like sure you could get a kunos which

one of the 11 variants do you have to

get the ultimate of each one and then

which one's the ultimate of each one and

so like that becomes an argument so I

think it's a little bit cloudier than

what you're saying exactly but I agree

it's going to be quite like Ferrari but

like even Ferrari isn't like Ferrari

anymore because like which law Ferrari

do you get the appar or not do you count

the dayt sp3 do you count the Dayton sp3

do you etc etc it's now starting to get

a little cloudy in the Ferrari World

it's starting to fracture right and so

that will be true but the lambo the

lambo supercars mark my words will be

like the Ferrari Supercar I it the

market agrees with you and that there

has been a dramatic appreciation of all

the cards they're going up and I there

was a time when the Ferrari super cars

were just not all that valuable I mean

288 GTO when I was like in college were

like $250,000 cars yeah f40s were 350

you know I reviewed an F40 one time and

I said it cost in the title I wrote it

cost a million dollars to try to get

some sweet sweet clicks and I got hate

mail about how I was lying about how

much it cost if I could buy that car for

a million dollars now I'd eat fipo if

someone came in and said I'll give you

F40 for a million you got to eat fipo

that's all right you'd say do you have

another one I'll buy I'll take two I'll

take two I'll eat

Kennon the Lamborghini super cars you

should think about this as your next

investment thinking about this was uh

okay filipo filipo is being KY because

he wants we had a incident the last time

he was on this podcast remember and now

he has to explain yes I was gone last

week uh cuz I was on the east coast and

while I was there I test drove a 997.2

base Cabret mhm and you said I told you

I'm not going to talk about you buying a

car again unless you buy that car right

well I I it's not here now um nor is it

in my legal possession uh did you steal

it no um it was fine I liked it I would

buy one the guy just wants five grand

more than I think it's worth okay that's

fine he did go down a grand on price no

additional interest since he and I text

sometimes I told him to to to keep

texting me as he lowers the price and

then eventually we we'll get to an

agreement D it's like having a Nick here

eventually get to an agreement it was

fine though I didn't love it what do you

mean you didn't love it I liked it it

wasn't 345 horsepower whatever

345 can I make a suest is what has can

my suggestion is you will not love

anything you're not the type of person

who loves should I just give up he loves

I think you should you I have thought

about this a lot you had all the special

cars Miata you had a Miata you had the

the 500 a bar you had an manual X5 which

is a very well-known Enthusiast

automobile sporty indeed high

performance you had that Corvette but

you're not pursuing one like I think

maybe it's just time you say you're

never going to find the car and you

should just get get some sort of Aura

well I already have my two cars they're

fine how about an aura which Aura you

really like like a boring one like a non

for a while you were pushing an an NSX

no I don't think you'd fall in love with

that I would you should get you know

what you should get you should get the

two the 2.2 CL that came out in 97 with

the line down the middle of it with an

automatic and just be like that's well

the automatic will will stop working

tomorrow so no no that was that was a

later

problem I you seem to conceptually have

owned these cars in your mind already

and like are done and that may be enough

for you that's so true that's so true

that's an interesting point he gets in

his head about the cars he thinks about

them he he not only thinks about buying

them but then thinks about not having

them he has the entire ownership journey

in his mind the best part and then he

moves on yeah well I I I am keeping my

my eyes very much out for other things

that seem interesting you're not going

to find anything I hate to break it to

you yeah I think you're kind of I think

at some point I will make an impulse

purchase but it'll be like a 987 boxer

I'll bet you you don't I would put money

on this i' I've bought other cars kind

of un yeah you bid on a lot he car the

problem is that what felip buys on

impulse and what he actually wants are

very different he buys impulse stuff

because it's convenient to him cheap and

he actually wants stuff that would take

some effort to find like a 997.2 cab an

S apparently you want more power to find

a good one will take effort you need to

set searchs you need to bid on stuff on

our site and the others you need to like

go after stuff on Ren list or in like

the Porsche Club Magazine like that's

how you would have to do it and you're

never going to put in that level of

effort but I do check Facebook

Marketplace a lot that's because you're

looking for local stuff that's cheap yep

at the end of his street that's what

he's but if you want to find if you want

to really find like a great example of

go you have to be like focused you'll

never be I think this comes in es and

flows comes in waves for I was serious I

I was looking at other things I was I

had reached out to other other cars okay

the rule is made on the pod

with cars with fipo anymore unless he

has like got the cash in his pocket he's

got the cash no in

hiset I want him have to hold the title

In His Hands I'm not going to buy a

$40,000 carard with cash that seems

insane okay Kenan we move on what do you

got for us well I want I discovered

something interesting recently it

actually came up in an Instagram post

but you know the Ferrari Enzo you're

familiar with the Enzo Ferrar

Ferrari I'm going type in Ferrari ends

up because otherwise the guy comes up

yep that is the unfortunate part of this

now you are aware of course that it has

two mirrors like most cars

however they're different sizes if you

look closely the one on the driver side

is longer than the one on the passenger

side now I suppose this is because like

it needed to clear like the visibility

needed to but I had never noticed this

until somebody Point don't you agree it

looks the same yeah I'm s

is they are actually different I think

the drive covered it um but there there

are different sizes like which I can't

wait go back go down go down there's the

Instagram post go

down oh we don't have

what you oh it's a video it's a

video but I I never like I had never

noticed that okay so this is the EUR a

video look they're completely different

sizes no way it's not even close it's

not even close the mirrors are totally

124 E-class did

this I do actually but look at that

that's very different I agree with you

wow who knew but I never once noticed it

looking at the car like and I have

stared at Enzo for a while look don't

you agre the main thing we notice is

that it looks like a grasshopper and

that the front overhang is as long as a

softball uh field it look that one looks

good with no front overhang that's how

it should have looked o e that looks

like half an in

yeah I the Enzo I think the Enzo's aged

actually remarkably well personally oh W

that mirror looks huge can ask a

question you've driven a Mazerati mc2

yeah true there too or no oh that's

something that we'll have to find out uh

but before we do I have one more talk

car segment that it's finally time for

me to get off my chest in public uhoh as

we've talked about in private many times

what is this where the Ford Crown

Victoria yeah the Crown Vic as they say

a hero to the blue collar car community

the Grand Marquee you go to any small

town in Indiana and there's some kid

who's like us who just wants to screw

around with cars and he's driving a

Crown Vic right like that's the thing

about that car they were cheap they were

cheap to own people drift them people

crash them into stuff people mod them

for Destruction Derby's and off-roading

it's like the blue collar dream car do

people still do that or that end 2012

it's still going on and you know what

the weird thing about that is the name

it's called The Crown Victoria it's

named

for like the it's got like the most

British name like the most like British

like royalty name in history like this

car is there's not a Crown Victoria in

the country that isn't driving around

with like crushed energy drink cans in

the back wheel in the back passenger

foot well and it's the Crown Victoria

how come this is never discussed it's

such a good point great question this is

sometimes you have these ideas and I

have a list on my phone where I write

them down I brought this one up to him

recently and that's why he's mentioning

Victoria it is insane it is insane that

the Blue colar Hero car has the most

proper stately British name if Jaguar

came out with a flagship luxury sedan

and called it the Crown Victoria that

would make sense and it would cost

$200,000 unfortunately they're taking a

year off from from the automotive

industry right to do ski instruction in

Aspen right but instead Ford did it on

their like taxi that kids buy and mod

cheaply great point and spray paint the

body because you can do that why there

must be a story behind why they chose

well it's a historic name I mean there

was a time when the Crown Victoria was

like the top trim of their LTD and it

was supposed to be the luxury one but it

deaded and now and now it's like

literally the hero of red State America

the Crown Victoria and it's the Crown

Victoria so stupid it is a good point

how did this happen how do we allow

ourselves to be invaded by the British

even though we beat them the first time

may they they final they got the last

lap they got the last lap took a couple

hundred years but they got the last

La okay we need to move on to our market

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us a couple things yeah um we have

somebody that we that's very exciting

selling a car with us right now is it

Bernie made off uh no it is we actually

have two people one is is a a short form

Creator called slick Stevie who's

selling a Baja Bug with it I love this

thing it's so cool so good that is so

cool it's so cool he bought it on our

site a few months ago now he's selling

it after making it Herby believe it or

not he bought it largely looking like

this and now he made it even cooler wait

go back to the rear photo please for a

second what is this bizarre Florida

license plate it's a couple people out

on like a on like a fan boat Florida Bay

Forever Florida Bay forever man Florida

really does it anyway this is on the

right now the other car that we have

live right now that's really exciting is

a Lotus Amira sold by none other than

the stradman the stradman not a stradman

the stradman this is James James I know

James personally yeah I don't know his

last name I think it might be stradman

but he still has a mirror with us which

is very exciting yep I recogniz I you

recognize the photo it turns out that's

where they were taken um and it's very

exciting and we we love the the the

strad man and his second Channel strad I

do love the strad yeah I through the

strad uh chose to sell it on Cs and bids

uh auction went live today so yesterday

when you all are watching this uh

bidding is already at 7,7 $7,000 what is

an aural worth we'll find out okay

stradman stradman thank you for selling

your lootus you're on our site uh okay

Kenan give us the real good market

report which is very interesting yes so

I discovered something recently so as

you may know I like the E39 M5 a lot I

know it's shocking but I but I

discovered something interesting so E39

M5 results have been pretty strong I did

a little more research on on classic.com

which is a nice aggregate of like a lot

of results they've been pretty strong

recently but to get like a decent one

kind of cost you the average it turns

out over the last 5 years the last year

is 35 $5,000 about what it's going to

cost you for like a n for like average

of anything public yes correct average

of anything public the BMW F10 M5 two

generations later about the same so it

actually cost four grand more on average

so yes depreciation is really striking

this car the E39 M5 is ascending as a

classic that's actually a good point

because the E6 is even cheaper presum

the5 has out valued both both of success

successors I mean it hasn't out valed

the f yet but the writing is on the wall

yes and I suspect now of course the F10

was available only as an or as it was

available as an automatic and as a

manual I supect the manual ones will be

will hold their value substanti which is

true when we sell them although it's

very uncommon yes but it is f is

fascinating to me like the F10 M5 to me

still feels like a new car I live in the

past but I think of it as a new car and

it offers a lot of modern great stuff

the E39 definitely feels a lot more like

a classic but this is what happens the

the used Market values different things

than the new market the new market

values Tech and uh you know vehicle size

and performance but the yeah and the

other the classic Mark values experience

and so and I just think it was

fascinating I never really thought about

it that way with that said I think the

F10 M5 is one of the sleeper cars of I

love them click on this blue one I just

want to look at it I love I first off I

know it's sacr but I think the F10 M5 is

maybe the best looking M5 I agree with I

love how this car looks yeah I think

it's second but yes I know you do um but

either way it's up there like I think

beautiful and it's a the interior is

fantastic it's a very fun car to drive

it's a great powertrain maybe third E34

M5 is a very good

looking it's this to me it's the for me

personally if the E60 could be reliable

that would be if the E60 was reliable we

we would all have e60s yes I agreed yes

we'd just be rolling our own in V10

manual San I I am but right yeah yeah

I'll get there but I no I I agree the

F10 is one of my all-time favorite m5s I

do wish they were a little more reliable

um but welcome to that's something that

is that is hurting it on the used Market

because the E3 and M5 for all of your

kenon decisions feely reliable car this

car has some issues and I think that

continues to drive prices yeah again my

car hasn't been unreliable I just expect

it to be mechanically perfect at 240,000

I will tell you you want to see

something crazy we've been talking about

this also e35 30 grand gets you a good

one

F10 M5 looks like 30 grand gets you a

good one go to f90 yeah the new M5 f90 I

remember reviewing this car at a dealer

when it just came out we've beening

they've sink we've been selling we we

had an r&m at 43 we had a couple sales

in the low 50s this car ain't far this

is to me you w't talking about what

feels like a new car unfortunately it's

uglier and just worse and auto only and

all uglier Auto only bigger Etc however

it's really fast it's got amazing Tech

and this car is only I mean this is a

20,000 mile car like it may have engine

issues someday but you got a long way to

go and it's 55 GS right I agree Nick and

I actually discussed this on like the

cars in bids Channel last week when we

were highlighting cars that were for

sale and this F this f90 was one of them

but yeah it it really is these are

sinking and sinking fast sinking fast

but great to pick one up as a used car

you get one of these as a used car the

number start with a four it's pretty

appealing especially because we all know

BMW has some engine issues these cars

are young I mean they may develop issues

later but I just don't believe

truthfully that an 18 BMW will have the

kind of catastrophic failures that E60

m5s had yet you probably get five good

years out of this car this is the time

to buy one of these when they've

depreciated some but not to zero and

when they're a little older but not

unreliable I am curious to see how the

market treats them especially with the

new one coming out weighing you know

twice as much

as as much as a small PL I know we all

thought that this was the heavy the

heavy big one do do we think that the

F10 stick M5 will appreciate it's a last

of the the manual m5s and it was only

offered in North America it's

cool also they're not that expensive and

the m6 go back to but they are very the

m6 coup we've sold a couple I know we've

sold every single one that was ever

created there aren't many he he didn't

believe me he thought they were all

modified people swapped them go to

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and I've added them to my favorites list

fun fact you can search turo without

dates or location just put your location

as anywhere and hit clear for the dates

I've done just that and I found about 30

of my favorite turo cars and you can

check out my personal turo favorites by

clicking the link in the description

below okay time for questions questions

questions questions questions you can

ask us questions you go to carsen

bids.com and you click on the community

Tab and there will be a post that says

please ask us questions in this post and

then we will ask the highest rated

questions no matter how stup and if you

do it from the app where you can very

easily get the community from the bottom

nav bar and you say that I will uh say

thank you not not a loud but lot of

thank you is probably apparently tied

the app

okay

only incentive this month okay questions

first question from Louis which is

spelled to the one what do mods upgrade

what Mod upgrades do you believe retain

or even improve car res values the most

on the opposite side what mods do you

believe hurt resale value the most

excellent question I'll answer the

latter part first most mods hurt the

value of the car some do more than

others but some do a lot more than

others we were talking about yeah I of

the mods that don't matter like they

easily changeable I Tru think the

tinting tail lights and headlights is

the most immediate drop for mod doesn't

matter I agree with that and um black

wheels from era where cars didn't have

black wheels any car from the mid 2000s

when black wheels was not a thing you

put black wheels on it instantly it's

uglier and it says that the person is

maybe sketchy I also would submit to you

that any wheel that our friend Nick

thinks is attractive is a value decline

in a car I would to expand that a little

bit more I would say yeah any car with

aftermarket wheels that are clearly

aftermarket not old I think most of the

time is going to hurt I don't think

it'll necessarily hurt the value in a

lot of cases I think it doesn't help I

think that some do hurt the value yeah

and I think that some help the value but

I think well I was put it this way if

you're selling a car on the site and it

has aftermarket wheels and you have

stock wheels put the stock wheels back I

completely agree generally with that

there's a couple exceptions but there

are a few exceptions but I generally

agree with that you should put the stock

wheels back on when you go to sell a car

I have seen some cars

list that I'm just like if you had just

put the stock wheels back on you would

have gotten and they have them they like

you can put them on you put them on yeah

you want to make the money on the car

you know what I think universally helps

well-known reliability modifications

reliability mod like fix like a specific

issue that that car has that everybody

knows has absolutely better head bolts

in the in the 63s rod bearings in the

E60 M5 a manual transmission an E46

M3 um that's conversion kach has a bunch

I 355 has a ton headers headers if you

do those mods people will instantly be

like yep that's a something I don't have

to do right right I I totally agree with

that that's the one and and we'll also

show that you care about the car you

care about the car long term there are

other mods though that add value legitim

there are some like the the Porsche head

unit that adds carplay and stuff Porsche

unit that adds car is a good one I think

in some cars that are very clearly track

based racy type things something like a

roll cage can add value um or or race

seats or something like that offroaders

are another one off-roaders have some

value ads with good lifts that's those

cards can be expensive and difficult to

install and so people who have already

done that on cars that are very commonly

off-roaded often get some money for them

things that demonstrate that you care a

lot about having the best the most

reliable the safest like a roll cage

indicates oh I actually right yeah you

know I tried this car but also I cared

or like ol's damp ol whatever on some

modification like quity high quality

Parts yeah you won't get back the full

money you won't get back the full money

but like a an original uh 9pa Cayenne

wow ni like that's been modded off-road

modded gets more money than one that

hasn't I don't think you get dollar for

dollar back on the mods but it certainly

is more desirable and more valuable than

yeah I trying to find an example of

that okay that's a good question and I

think Luis one oneis has a good question

I think we successfully answered it next

question from OES yes this is a great

question one of the best we've ever been

asked wow kenon if you could magically

change the m5's color to any other BMW

factory color would you and what color

would you choose same thing for Doug and

the CR GT with Porsche colors yep

absolutely in fact when I order I didn't

order when I bought my M5 like I didn't

want silver I specifically didn't want

titanium silver no I wanted a 2000 Avis

blue with the two-tone interior in full

leather very very very very rare I think

they only made 17 or 19 my friend Luke

has one and that's what I wanted I even

looked at it I like I was negotiating on

one in Chicago at the time but really

just the numbers didn't work out and I

was getting discouraged and eventually

that one came up and the condition of

that car was so good that's why I bought

it in the end interesting but yeah Avis

blue in my opinion was the best color

and it was it was replaced by lamon Blue

when they facelifted the car but Avis

was very pretty it was offered on the

E36 M3 as well and that to me is like

that's the one that would be the one

with the full two tone interior so they

out Sport interior they are out there I

see them occasionally but it's R very

rare and only available for 2000 um me

and the CR GT I I have a bizarre color

history of the CR GT I really loved the

yellow the yellow was the thing it fance

yellow is what it was called special

color that they started with C te I

really wanted it it's all I wanted and

then um and then over time my taste

started to shift a little and by the

time I bought the car fan yellow was way

too expensive yeah and to be frank I

preferred silver

um and it's it's funny I was thinking

about this last night when I wrote this

question down and started thinking about

it for GT I have never preferred the

color I bought to this day I wish my car

was white with blue stripes to this day

so surprised career GT I never have

wished it was yellow there was not a

people always like when are you going to

get your yellow one and I'm like

hopefully never it looks like a

banana I actually prefer silver we know

that there were but I actually and I

know that I prefer silver because

for the Ford GT I've never been able to

get out of my head that I don't prefer

that car's color and I always think

about it and cre GT I never think about

it so I really legitimately think

however if I could have any color on

that car I don't know I personally I

think the C like cars look best in the

colors the manufacturer offered like I

think when people do color changes it's

it's doesn't necessarily work in the way

you don't that's not the color of the

car it's not correct and so for that

that car it was Silver Seal gray black

other black red and yellow and I think

silver looks the best in the CER GT

silver great I truly do however if I

could move beyond the crer GT color

palette I mean I don't know like in

azuro California I think would look cool

Zanzibar red was another like reddish

brownish they did that was cool but I'm

not sure it would look great on GT

anyway people are doing all these care

GT color changes now the factory is

doing them certain dealerships are doing

them there are certain modifiers

aftermarket modifiers that gr rul that

are doing them I don't think any of them

look better than the OE colors to be

honest but I'm an OE guy I like Oe also

who I am everybody should keep in mind

that every other car that Doug owns is

white well Doug Doug likes owning cars

in the so this is kind of along the

years California yeah golf blue por gol

blue Porsche did some golf blue ones I'm

just not I just not that I think you're

right about G seal I actually think seal

is better looking than GT silver but to

me the car just looks best in GT silver

anyway we're splitting hairs at this

point but the answer is I really like

the car in silver which is odd and and

and disappointing both of

us like such a shame I know you have a

good answer to this question I really

don't I think I would silver is just

what it is in my mind a career Agy is

silver with a brown chair and to be

honest with you thrilled that I have

silver it makes it a lot easier to live

with when it gets slightly dirty imagine

if he had anything else dark color car I

you all should hear what Ken has said

about full leather interior he car he'd

be cleaning the car literally now be

like can't time for the pot be like no

no okay next question from Amir Hassan

722 as a senior graduating college soon

uh as a senior in college graduating

soon any advice on how to land a job

like Doug had at Porsche early in his

career filipo I got no advice Doug you

you you had the job fipo got a job

though when he got College of course

how'd you get that I I don't have a good

answer for this I don't know I don't

know what the answer is a job like I

I'll tell you this and I'm I'm very very

serious about this people make a lot on

the internet of what job I had at

Porsche people are like he made a lot of

money when he was working at Porsche I

had like the most entry-level job that

ever existed at Porsche I was getting

paid $48,000 a year uh and it was like

not people are like how did you get this

special job I sat at a computer all day

doing Excel like this wasn't something

this wasn't like a like an amazing thing

to be honest my answer to this question

is I've and I've always told this to

people like you should consider starting

working at a dealership I think

dealership life gives you an

unbelievable amount of Automotive

experience you that is where everything

happens and tons of upset and when I

then went into into the actual industry

into like the the man for the

manufacturer I had knew so much more

because I had worked at a dealership

before that um getting into work at a

manufacture is hard uh but it's not as

glamorous as people think I went to work

next to a you know we went to Chipotle

for lunch every day and we we SED Exel

like it wasn't it wasn't different from

if I was working at the company that

makes sign it's corporate but for a cool

company yeah that helps you went to

chipot lunch in your company 997.2 yeah

but that was that was a company car that

I was leasing from the company and took

my pay you should just seen I was taking

home like 1,00 bucks a paycheck like it

was it was a

situation I I so as the person who has

most recently gone through this for the

automotive industry like I agree with

you 100% I work for the largest exotic

car dealership in the country and I

learned a lot about different parts of

the industry for new cars for old cars

for how it all works and that and I also

learned what I liked and didn't like

about that like that specific part of

the industry and that was tremendously

helpful and additionally I met tons and

tons of great people who I'm very close

friends with in the industry and talk

going to events talking to those people

how they gotten started in their career

and just being friendly in general I

started talking to you just casually

about f50s and then you asked me what I

wanted to do I wanted to work AR company

live in Souther that now I think there's

also a lot of like you just sometimes

have to build your way up to that by

proving that you're competent yeah if if

you are comp even if you're working a

different job if you're competent then

you develop the skills and also like I

would a note on that I would say like if

you're going to when you're building

those relationships build them as

friends like don't build it as like I'm

angling to get this job when this person

has it or what like that's not the right

way to approach it genuinely invest in

relationships and have genuine passion

and enthusiasm for the cars that you're

interested in that the purest enthusiasm

carries you a long way I think and you

certainly had it when it comes to yeah

yeah and honestly I don't I don't regret

having that job but I also don't think

that job is quite as like when you're a

senior in college your whole world is

devoted to like getting a cool job at a

cool that job wasn't as special as as

you might think like there's a lot of

cool jobs out there and that job it was

$1,100 a month that I was making after

my company car Le well that seems like a

person driving around a 911 when you're

21 you can you can drive around 1100

month but you're driving a 911 that's

like the dream yeah uh okay next

question and this is

from next question this I'm going to do

two more okay okay next question we're

going to do two more two more questions

this next one is from J sturdy 38 given

that Amazon confirmed The Grand Tour

will get three new hosts are you guys

going for it why or why not years ago

they reached out to me for one of the

shows maybe it's was Top Gear I don't

remember and you should have seen what

you had to do you had to like agree that

you would not post on social unless they

approved it and you had to agree and it

was like I already make more money than

on YouTube and I'm more I have more

freedom like I have zero interest in

this I didn't even reply to the casting

call like it wasn't even interesting to

me I think at the end of the day like TV

shoots are not my thing I like low

production quick moving stuff FIP plus

we can do things that are even better

like we have coming out next week stay

tuned do you want me to actually answer

the question yeah oh I would literally

never I I I love being part of the

content with you guys my friends it's

wonderful it is also a like very small

portion of my actual job here at cars

and beds and I like the remaining

portion Happ when we set the Pod we we

were like about to start shooting one

day and we were like oh no who are we

going to have on it fipa why don't you

come join yeah it was excellent planning

all around and and every time we do the

Pod he resents us no I sense it every

time I only I only resent it when you're

late it but it gives him a chance to

talk about normal cars like the car

business which he loves more than

anything else I had a topic today about

a Chevy Malibu and you refuse to talk

about it reasonably uh and so I think

the answer is no Kenan would you go on

The Grand Tour no I I'm I'm I'm a fan of

like I was a fan of of here's the thing

you're always going to be compared to

the trio that did it no matter what you

do and Nobody Does it Better than those

three I want to see Jeremy Clarkson

Richard heaven and James May especially

James May doing what they do because

well they sell Jin now I know I have

some

wonderful but like I truly feel that

like there in entertainment history

they're one of the greatest trios period

and they did it for so long such a high

level why compete with like I it's not

that it would be competition with that

but like you just can't capture that

kind of lightning in a bottle more than

once and I and they're I love watching

the old stuff from Top Gear and The

Grand Tour like they did it really well

I'm sad it's gone of course but they

left us with quite a body of work yep I

agree with that I do think that you

would be a very good James May

replacement though no one replaces James

but he is my spirit animal that's for

sure final question from p33 kyn sounds

like a British license plate hi how do

you all feel about being called yuppies

by Scotty Kilmer and his recent video

Doug deiro was talking crap about me and

here's what I have to say all right I

want to address this a lot of people

sent me this video did you watch it no

and here's why Scotty I actually have a

lot of respect for Scotty because he

just gets unreal views but here's the

deal unreal concern God he make I wish I

could do what Scotty does he's like in

his house yelling at the camera and he

makes gets tons of views but

um for years I as I got more more and

more popular on YouTube a lot of people

started to use my name in videos like

Doug deiro said this here's why he's

wrong or I hate Doug deiro or Doug deiro

whatever and to be perfectly honest I

never watched any of that stuff I think

it's a cheap way to get views and I'm

kind of busy like I don't really watch I

truly like I'm what am I going to click

when am I going to watch the Scotty come

over it what you tell me what am I going

to when am I going to sit down be like

instead of playing with my kids or

playing with Kennan well I'm gonna

instead watch a Scotty Kilmer video or

any of these people who have use this

and I think you know whenever you can

like simulate Strife on YouTube or in

columns artic

uh it gets a lot of clicks and so I

never read anything that's what about

being called a YY specifically how do

you feel Scotty Kilmer has a way of

talking I love Scotty oh legit mad

respect to Scotty uh he'll probably make

another angry video about this or maybe

he'll be happy about this I have no idea

and I promise you I won't watch

it I just I've noticed it for years I've

noticed this like people would be like

oh Doug said this I'm going to do this

video and include his name in the title

because that starts this like this like

stri and it's so funny I people complain

about like oh the you know journalism is

this well you click on it like people

click on this stuff they love this they

love this drama and I won't participate

you will never see me complaining about

any YouTuber and definitely not putting

in the title of any video that is not

the way things work in this content

business I really assume that you've at

the very least had Nick watch it cuz

Nick who's off the podcast I think

watches every YouTuber watch so I just

he knew I watched it himself but I

certainly won't and certainly should we

start a beef with somebody right

now no should choose I don't think

so I don't have anybody to to start a

beef with though like I don't have any

negative feelings about any lot some

people have negative feelings toward me

but I love all we just have a lot of

love towards specifically diesel

whistling diesel yeah whist I mean

whistling diesel number one then hoie

right maybe we should start that's what

starts maybe we should start a beef with

tarish what you is

tarish no Freddy's great leave Freddy

alone all right that's the end of that

ladies and gentlemen it was the best

podcast youve ever done F any parting

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