{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"“Your Headcount is Wrong!” Designing The Dealership of the Future (And the 5-Year Dealer Playbook) |  Chris Walsh, President and Acting CEO at The Reynolds and Reynolds Company","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/your-headcount-is-wrong-designing-the-dealership-of-the-future-and-the-5-year-dealer-playbook-chris-walsh-president-and-acting-ceo-at-the-reynolds-and-reynolds-company","audioUrl":"https://chrt.fm/track/C6AG88/traffic.megaphone.fm/CREUR9464624247.mp3","description":"Today I'm joined by Chris Walsh, President and Acting CEO at The Reynolds and Reynolds Company.\n\nChris breaks down how to transition from a fragmented \"bolt-on\" tech stack to a unified AI ecosystem that automates routine administrative tasks. \n\nThis conversation provides the blueprint for \"agentic\" AI and the radical restructuring of the accounting and service departments over the next five years.\n\n\n\nThis episode is brought to you by:\n\n\n\n1.  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They help dealers run things like customer and business workflows with technology."}},{"startTime":31.3,"endTime":36.0,"type":"concept","title":"margin compression","url":"/glossary/margin-compression","quote":"With the automotive industry facing margin compression and a zero growth vehicle market, the pressure to find operational excellence has never been higher.","canonicalId":"concept:margin-compression","priority":0.9,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Margin compression means dealerships are earning less profit per vehicle or per transaction than they used to. It’s often driven by pricing pressure, higher costs, and less favorable sales mix, which forces dealers to improve efficiency to stay profitable.","simplifiedExplanation":"Margin compression just means the dealership makes less profit on each sale than before. When that happens, you have to cut waste and run operations more efficiently to keep the business healthy."}},{"startTime":41.9,"endTime":46.4,"type":"concept","title":"agentic AI","url":"/glossary/agentic-ai","quote":"moving beyond basic chat tools into agentic AI that performs autonomous work to reduce administrative overhead and radically restructures departments across the dealership.","canonicalId":"concept:agentic-ai","priority":0.9,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Agentic AI is AI that can take actions toward a goal (not just answer questions), often by coordinating steps across systems. In a dealership context, it’s positioned to handle tasks autonomously—reducing manual admin work and improving speed/consistency.","simplifiedExplanation":"Agentic AI is “AI that does things,” not just talks. It can take steps to complete tasks, which can cut down on paperwork and repetitive admin work at a dealership."}},{"startTime":46.4,"endTime":48.1,"type":"concept","title":"administrative overhead","url":"/glossary/administrative-overhead","quote":"...autonomous work to reduce administrative overhead and radically restructures departments across the dealership.","canonicalId":"concept:administrative-overhead","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Administrative overhead is the time, labor, and cost required to manage paperwork and internal processes rather than direct selling or servicing. Dealers try to reduce it because it consumes headcount and doesn’t directly generate revenue.","simplifiedExplanation":"Administrative overhead is the “paperwork and back-office” work that takes time and people. Cutting it helps the dealership run leaner and keep costs down."}},{"startTime":122.4,"endTime":152.5,"type":"term","title":"DMS","url":"/glossary/dms","quote":"So when a sales rep would sell a DMS, I would be the guy, one of the people that would go out and teach the customers how to use it. So that was my exposure to the car business and the car industry.","canonicalId":"term:dms","priority":0.9,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"In dealership software, DMS usually means a Dealer Management System. It’s the core platform dealers use to run day-to-day operations like sales, service, inventory, and accounting workflows.","simplifiedExplanation":"DMS stands for “dealer management system.” It’s the computer system a car dealership uses to keep track of things like cars on the lot, customer records, and paperwork."}},{"startTime":141.0,"endTime":148.6,"type":"concept","title":"parts inventory control","url":"/glossary/parts-inventory-control","quote":"So a DMS in 1988 was like accounting, payroll, and parts inventory control. Way different world, much easier to install one compared to what it's like now, but that's kind of how I learned the business.","canonicalId":"concept:parts-inventory-control","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Parts inventory control is the process of tracking parts stock levels, reorder points, and availability for service and repairs. In older DMS setups, it was a major focus area, which the speaker contrasts with today’s broader, more integrated systems.","simplifiedExplanation":"Parts inventory control means keeping the right parts in stock. The system helps the dealership know what it has, what it’s running low on, and what to order."}},{"startTime":247.5,"endTime":253.5,"type":"term","title":"telematics","url":"/glossary/telematics","quote":"...AI and data [247.5s] and advanced reporting and things like telematics [250.8s] and managing fleet and rental vehicles","canonicalId":"term:telematics","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Telematics is the use of connected-vehicle data (often via cellular/GPS) to monitor vehicle status and usage. In a dealership context, it can support things like fleet tracking, usage-based insights, and proactive service."}},{"startTime":253.5,"endTime":260.6,"type":"term","title":"cybersecurity","url":"/glossary/cyber-security","quote":"...managing fleet and rental vehicles [253.5s] and cybersecurity, managing keys and those kinds of assets. [260.6s] So the opportunities have expanded dramatically.","canonicalId":"term:cyber-security","priority":0.9,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Cybersecurity in dealership operations refers to protecting customer data, dealership systems, and connected-vehicle information from unauthorized access or attacks. Because DMS platforms touch many departments, a breach can disrupt sales, service, and inventory operations.","simplifiedExplanation":"Cybersecurity is about keeping the dealership’s computer systems and customer information safe from hackers. Since the DMS connects a lot of business functions, security matters a lot."}},{"startTime":274.3,"endTime":281.8,"type":"term","title":"service scheduling tool","url":"/glossary/service-scheduling-tool","quote":"One topic that was brought up was people seem to be happy with your service scheduling tool and you can educate me on exactly what that encompasses.","canonicalId":"term:service-scheduling-tool","priority":0.9,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"A service scheduling tool is software that lets customers book vehicle service appointments. In dealership operations, it’s a key part of reducing friction between the customer’s request and the shop’s ability to plan labor and parts.","simplifiedExplanation":"This is the system dealerships use to let customers pick a date and time for car service. It helps the dealership plan ahead so appointments don’t get messed up."}},{"startTime":324.7,"endTime":330.4,"type":"concept","title":"enhanced workflow","url":"/glossary/enhanced-workflow","quote":"Well, I think our primary focus is what I refer to as enhanced workflow. So how can we take, you mentioned an online service reservation, how can we take a consumer from making that service appointment online all the way through the invoicing","canonicalId":"concept:enhanced-workflow","priority":0.9,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Enhanced workflow is the idea of improving how work moves through a dealership process from start to finish. Here, it’s specifically about connecting online service appointment booking through to invoicing and payment-related steps so the customer and dealership experience feels seamless.","simplifiedExplanation":"Enhanced workflow means making the dealership process smoother and more connected. Instead of customers and staff jumping between disconnected steps, everything flows together."}},{"startTime":336.8,"endTime":339.3,"type":"term","title":"invoicing","url":"/glossary/invoicing","quote":"...from making that service appointment online all the way through the invoicing or the cash sharing process","canonicalId":"term:invoicing","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Invoicing is the step where the dealership generates the bill for the completed service. In service operations, tying invoicing tightly to appointment and work authorization helps reduce errors and delays.","simplifiedExplanation":"Invoicing is when the dealership creates the bill for the work done on your car. If it’s connected to the appointment process, it’s usually faster and more accurate."}},{"startTime":486.9,"endTime":512.8,"type":"concept","title":"dealer feedback","url":"/glossary/dealer-feedback","quote":"but where are you getting your feedback from, [489.3s] from dealer feedback? ... [509.5s] So I do get a lot of feedback from them that I funnel up.","canonicalId":"concept:dealer-feedback","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Dealer feedback is input gathered from dealership staff about what’s working and what isn’t in day-to-day operations and customer experience. In a dealership “playbook” context, it’s used to guide product and process changes so the tools actually match real workflows.","simplifiedExplanation":"Dealer feedback is what dealership people tell you about what they like and what they struggle with. It helps companies improve their tools and processes based on real problems, not guesses."}},{"startTime":512.8,"endTime":546.1,"type":"concept","title":"advisory summit","url":"/glossary/advisory-summit","quote":"But really where we get most of our valuable feedback from [516.0s] is our advisory summit. [518.2s] So we have different advisory summits.","canonicalId":"concept:advisory-summit","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"An advisory summit is a structured meeting where leaders from different disciplines (like parts, service, accounting, and customer-facing teams) gather to review how products are being used and where gaps exist. It’s essentially a feedback loop designed to identify unmet needs and prioritize improvements."}},{"startTime":571.5,"endTime":576.0,"type":"concept","title":"UI or the UX","url":"/glossary/ui-or-the-ux","quote":"[569.4s] are we going the right direction?\n[571.5s] What do you think about, you know,\n[572.9s] for instance, the UI or the UX?\n[575.3s] What do you think about the functionality?","canonicalId":"concept:ui-or-the-ux","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"UI (user interface) and UX (user experience) are how software and websites feel and work for users. Dealership “UI/UX” feedback typically covers things like navigation, clarity of information, and how smoothly customers or staff can complete tasks.","simplifiedExplanation":"UI and UX are about how a website or app looks and how easy it is to use. UI is the screens and buttons you see, while UX is whether the whole experience feels smooth and intuitive."}},{"startTime":611.2,"endTime":633.2,"type":"concept","title":"customer feedback","url":"/glossary/customer-feedback","quote":"...I'm a firm believer in listening... to our customers. ...the best person to tell you that is a customer... customers can give you that feedback...","canonicalId":"concept:customer-feedback","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Customer feedback is direct input from vehicle owners or service customers about how well something works in real-world conditions. In dealership operations, this often shapes product design, service workflows, and support processes.","simplifiedExplanation":"Customer feedback means listening to what customers say about their experience. It helps companies improve what they’re selling and how they support it, because customers see problems first-hand."}},{"startTime":673.6,"endTime":717.32,"type":"company","title":"Podium","url":"/glossary/podium","quote":"I keep seeing Podium come up when dealers are talking about vendors. And it's not hype. It's because they're meeting the needs of dealers right now... Podium's voice AI books, appointments, routes calls correctly and escalates when it should based on your dealership's playbooks.","canonicalId":"company:podium","priority":0.9,"confidence":0.95,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Podium is a customer communication platform that many dealerships use to automate sales and service interactions. In this segment, it’s positioned as an AI-driven system that handles messaging and phone calls, including booking appointments and routing/escalating leads.","simplifiedExplanation":"Podium is a software tool dealerships use to talk to customers. It can use AI to answer calls and messages, schedule appointments, and help move customers to the right place."}},{"startTime":706.4,"endTime":711.1,"type":"concept","title":"call routing","url":"/glossary/call-routing","quote":"Podium's voice AI books, appointments, routes calls correctly and escalates when it should based on your dealership's playbooks.","canonicalId":"concept:call-routing","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.82,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Call routing is the process of directing incoming calls to the correct person, department, or workflow. In a dealership context, good routing helps ensure leads reach the right sales or service team quickly, which can directly affect conversion rates.","simplifiedExplanation":"Call routing means sending a phone call to the right place. For dealerships, that can help customers talk to the correct team faster instead of getting bounced around."}},{"startTime":1055.6,"endTime":1061.0,"type":"concept","title":"repurposing of people","url":"/glossary/repurposing-of-people","quote":"Yeah, what I'm seeing is more repurposing of people. Like if you have an accounting staff of five and you're leveraging some additional tools...","canonicalId":"concept:repurposing-of-people","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Repurposing of people means shifting employees from one set of tasks to others as automation and software take over routine work. In dealership operations, this often moves staff away from manual back-office processing and toward roles that require human judgment or customer interaction.","simplifiedExplanation":"Instead of laying people off, some dealerships move employees to different jobs. As software handles more of the routine work, staff can focus on the parts that still need a person."}},{"startTime":1207.6,"endTime":1213.9,"type":"concept","title":"generative feature","url":"/glossary/generative-feature","quote":"...the first phase would be kind of like the generative feature. So think about chat, GPT, type stuff...","canonicalId":"concept:generative-feature","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"A “generative” feature refers to AI that can produce text or other outputs based on prompts—similar to chat-based assistants. In dealership software, this can help draft responses, summarize information, or generate recommendations from structured data.","simplifiedExplanation":"Generative AI is the kind that can write or respond to you in a natural way, like a chat assistant. In dealership tools, it can help turn information into useful answers."}},{"startTime":1278.3,"endTime":1284.2,"type":"concept","title":"used cars in inventory","url":"/glossary/used-cars-in-inventory","quote":"what kind of used cars that I have in inventory that will give you some kind of a response back? And the more information you give it, the higher the quality of the response you'll get back and the more information you'll get back.","canonicalId":"concept:used-cars-in-inventory","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.84,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"“Used cars in inventory” refers to the dealership’s currently available pre-owned vehicles. The speaker ties this to using AI to generate responses based on what’s actually in stock.","simplifiedExplanation":"This means the pre-owned cars the dealership has on hand to sell. The idea is that AI can help respond to customers using details about those cars."}},{"startTime":1298.1,"endTime":1313.5,"type":"company","title":"Ray","url":"/glossary/ray","quote":"And we introduced Ray, which is our agentic AI assistant. We introduced that at Amplify, which is our customer event held every year, I think it was last August in Dallas.","canonicalId":"company:ray","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"Ray is presented as The Reynolds and Reynolds Company’s agentic AI assistant. The discussion frames it as part of their AI tooling for dealership operations, governed by dealer policies.","simplifiedExplanation":"Ray is the name of the AI assistant this company is building for dealerships. 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The goal is to stay competitive and keep more customers as the market changes."}},{"startTime":1881.4,"endTime":1889.5,"type":"concept","title":"responding to internet leads","url":"/glossary/responding-to-internet-leads","quote":"I always think about responding to internet leads, right? Are we great at it? Are sales people great at it?","canonicalId":"concept:responding-to-internet-leads","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"This phrase points to the dealership process of contacting and qualifying online prospects after they submit an inquiry. Response speed, message quality, and routing to the right salesperson are often crucial to converting leads into appointments and sales.","simplifiedExplanation":"They’re talking about how dealerships follow up with people who reach out online. If the response is slow or poorly handled, those shoppers often move on."}},{"startTime":2086.9,"endTime":2096.5,"type":"concept","title":"EVs","url":"/glossary/ev","quote":"Think about EVs and what's going on with EVs right now. We went from an administration that pushed EVs to an administration that pumped the brakes on EVs","canonicalId":"concept:ev","priority":0.9,"confidence":0.95,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"“EVs” means electric vehicles—cars powered primarily by electric motors and rechargeable batteries. In dealership strategy, EVs affect inventory planning, staffing, and how manufacturers and retailers manage demand and supply.","simplifiedExplanation":"EVs are electric cars. They run on batteries instead of gasoline, and that changes how dealerships stock cars and plan for customer demand."}},{"startTime":2096.5,"endTime":2099.3,"type":"concept","title":"OEMs","url":"/glossary/oem","quote":"yet the OEMs, Mitheed holidays, electric vehicles that are now, now we've got a misbalance and inventory","canonicalId":"concept:oem","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"OEMs are Original Equipment Manufacturers—the companies that build the vehicles (and often the major components). 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